MISSING SAILORS FOUND DROWNED BELOW DECK

pretty embarrassing desu

Wtf Navy, boy there are going to be hours of power points coming soon

I bet the jews did this

Press F to pay respects

They deserved our country with honor.

>berthing compartments
Imagine sleeping and then being lodged underneath warped steel and drowning till you die.

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Poor heros :(

>>130362086
Holy shit

>>130361778
Nothing gives me a more satisfying wank than the thought of dead American sailors. Too bad only so few of them died.

>>130361778
The captain should hang.

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RIP
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>>130361778
lmao, some uppity vice admiral or captain is going to get court marshaled.

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>>130361778
F

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUtHK0WD4IM

F :(

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>>130361778
Poor bastards how terrible

>>130361778
rip

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Wow, Japan clearly needs another nuking.
They're getting way too careless and need to be reminded of their position in the world.
All merchant ships should make way for US ships.

I hope heads will roll over this someone is respobsible for those deaths, whoever was in command fucked up big time.

Also may those sailors rest in peace.

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US Navy 0 - Cargo ship 1

>>130361778
How can we make this Drumpf's fault?

>>130362707
it was a phillipino cargo ship

they should have been nuked too

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>>130361778
>pic related of the accident

S

>>130362322
pretending that you matter is the real tragedy.

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>>130361778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce2uNvmY5eA

Samurais kamikaze our naval vessels, Germany taking over Europe, Russia getting friendlier with u.s. and u.k., middle east still an absolute shithole.

History truly does repeat itself.

Here's the thing. The cargo ship was heading to port, and then for some not yet known reason, turned around and Collided with the Fitzgerald.

Why? Why did it turn around? And WHY THE FUCK is almost every bullshit news report & story write up say that the Fitzgerald hit the cargo ship???
That is obviously false. WTF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vST6hVRj2A

You stand relieved, shipmates.
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>>130363333
>this

The Phillipines is full of islamic nutjobs.
It's time to bomb these monkey fuckers.

>>130361941
This was my first though. Constant training sessions bringing up Incident Report blahblahblah.

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>be american sailor
>drown
kek

>>130362001
>disaster that reaches headlines

You can bet the farm

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>>130361778
The captain should get shot for gross incompetence.

Didn't save his ship, didn't save his sailors, hell he didn't even raise the alarm when it became obvious the collision was inevitable!

F

>>130362086

I'm pretty sure that the metal just instantly smushed the living shit out of them.
They're most likely saying "drowned" because they were found under water.
Also it probably looks better than saying that they had to scrape what was left of the bodies off the warped plating and are now having to identify the bodies based on teeth.

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>>130363923
>hell he didn't even raise the alarm when it became obvious the collision was inevitable!

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>be in Navy
>long day of watch down in the plant
>finally get off at about 1am
>eat some late chow, get a shower and hop into your rack
>read a few chapters of a fantasy novel and click off your rack light and close your eyes
>get woken up by a loud crash and general quarters alarm blaring
>you're trapped because the rack above you collapsed onto your legs
>scream out for someone to help, but everyone else is already at their battle stations
>think your last thoughts as you watch the cold sea water pour in dimly illuminated by the red night lights of the berthing

Fuck, I'm glad I'm out.

I hope this doesn't get swept under the rug & forgotten. Something is really really fucking wrong with that cargo ship & the people on it. I hope they fuck their shit up

>>130364008
Crushed and killed instantly
or
Lived through an absolute nightmare trapped underneath metal and drowned.

>>130363923
>inevitable collision
How in the fuck it was supposedly inevitable is beyond me. The destroyer sailed into the path of the cargoship and got rammed starboard side.

>>130364072
That's why 7 sailors were asleep below deck and caught unaware.

there needs to be an investigation into the flip vessel, this reeks of terrorism

>>130362322
So you only hate American sailors?

>>130362815
You mean murder?

>>130363333
>>130363508
Is there an animation of both ships course plots?

It does seem a little weird that this enormous freighter would make a turn like that.

But what I don't get is that even my fathers sailboat has a radar system that will blare a warning if any object gets too close to the boat.

That's pretty standard on any boat doing long distance offshore cruising. You tend to zone out on a sailboat and you're not going to be staring at the radar constantly at 4:00 in the morning, so you have that warning system that will alert you.

How come the Fitz didn't have a system like this? I mean, I guarantee you it did, but why wasn't it on?

>>130364165
the cargo ship turned around. it was night time. That cargo ship did it on purpose. I bet anything

How in the holy fuck do two fuckhuge ships collide in the middle of the ocean? My only guess is that one had a gook driving it and the other a woman.

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>>130361778
BTFO 2bh

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>>130364077
>dying by the smell of musty socks and floor wax

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>>130364282
It is not clear if the freighter turned before or after the collision.

There is an AIS aboard the Fitzgerald but that data is classified and will probably not be released until the naval board of inquiry deems it be released.

However with this said something stinks here with the behavior of this merchant ship originally I thought the Fitz probably was at fault but the AIS data from the merchant indicates otherwise and we know the Phillipines has an Islam problem right now.

Maybe George Webb had the name of the Cargo ship wrong

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>>130364077

>>130364322
Wondering the same thing myself.

>>130364342
add in a subtle insult to the phillipinos, pls

>>130364292
>the cargo ship turned around
Doesn't matter. It could very well have been avoided simply by turning to starboard as a ship is supposed to in that situation.,
>it was night time
Double the reason to be watchful and aware of other ships' movement.

>>130364446
Dont scare me man

>>130364257
>So you only hate American sailors?

But, strangely, he love semen.

>>130364165
>How in the fuck it was supposedly inevitable
If they tried to manoeuvrer on time and with full speed, it would have avoided the collision. But they didn't so they had nearly 7 minutes to raise the alarm and brace for collision or at the very least assemble the crew on deck.

>>130363923
This is likely why he was 'medevaced'. Same thing happened to McCain when he killed a bunch of people on the Forrestal.

>>130363508
compare this to paths of other cargo ships. iv never seen anything like it.

>>130362322

Obvious b8.


>>130364342

DESIGNATED

>>130364548
I was only half joking. What was it? 1 or 2 days after his fuck up this happened? I don't know the whole story, but when I saw what hit the Fitzgerald, That Mossad bastard popped right into my head.

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>>130361778
F days after General Mattis tells Congress our military is in a terrible state.

>>130364438

>Phillipines has an Islam problem right now
Man it would be interesting if it turned out that some muds were driving the cargo ship.
Still even if that cargo ship tried to purposely hunt the American ship, if a modern naval vessel with state of the art radar,gps and other sensor tech can't see a ship the size of a high rise building approaching, there's something criminally wrong there.
As in criminal incompetence on the captain's part.

>>130364077
fuck man I'm in C school this shit is terrifying

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>>130363923
i'll forgive you for hiding your country bc that file name

A little ironic how this happens just a week after another US Navy disaster, where 50+ hours were spent searching for a missing officer who just happened to be hiding out onboard his own ship.

US Navy officers are resisting orders, we need to find out what/why before it's too late anons.

>>130361872
Fuck you. They we're hit by a cargo shit that changed its course. They dogged the hatches in order to prevent further losses. Fuck you mother fucker

>>130362037
F

>>130364342
Delete this.
You can click the checkbox to the left of "anonymous" and then click the delete button at the bottom of the page, or use the drop down menu to the right of your post number if you're using 4chanX.

>>130361778
>pump the majority of our budget on the military
>manage to collide with a Filipino cargo ship

>>130364322


Large vessel collisions are not uncommon on the high seas. Especially at night and/or bad conditions.

And that cargo hauler had the edge in displacement during the collision. A Burke would get pretty fucked up in such a collision.

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>>130364606
>This is likely why he was 'medevaced'.
I guarantee once the crew heard sailors were missing they all wanting to murder the captain for doing nothing.

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>>130362322

>>130364847
he was a 3rd class petty officer dip shit

Didn't some missing sailors just get found safe the other day? Different sailors or am I jumping timelines?

>>130364824
Remember Battle Stations? Remember that one room after the "missile attack"? The one that looked like a berthing? Filled with black smoke? Remember the one dummy that was crushed in the racks?

>>130364584

Well shit....I was so focused on the asshole cargo ship, that I didn't even think of that. If that many died because they were sleeping, wtf. Even if they saw it coming too late to turn around, they HAD to of seen it in enough time to sound an alarm. Any fucking alarm to wake up those poor souls.
That's some fucking bullshit right there. They got lazy thinking that it was a regular night of no happenings. fuck.

>>130364616
Waiting for pilot? Drunk captain? Malfunctions? Lack of space in port? Getting rid of contraband?
Lots of reasons aside from intentional ramming.

>>130361778
>>130361872

They would have been locked in. I did 7 years in the Navy (not US), Watertight bulk heads are closed, sealed, and reinforced when a compartment is flooded.

This was most likely a series of incompetence. Helmsman could have maneuvered. Crew could have been warned. Crew should have been at DC stations.

I'm not surprised DESU. The US military has a rep for being notoriously incompetent among allied nations.

us navy is a fucking joke here lately.

surrendering like fags to iran, now killed by ladyboy flips.

get your shit together

>>130363333
>here's the thing

I read this in the voice of Mike Enoch

>>130363333

Why the fuck didn't the Fitzgerald sound general quarters?

I guess we now know the weakness of American warships ... you just have to approach them really slowly.

>>130363923
The CO was asleep in his quarters and is in critical condition from the collision.

The ones at fault are the XO/OOD

>>130361778
F to these sailors, condolences to families.

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>>130365123
That ASVAB was rough, huh fatboy?

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>>130365197
Ah yes that reminds me.

>>130365213
The CO is still at fault because it's his ship. He's responsible for everything that happens. I would imagine A LOT of people are in deep shit right now.

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>>130364984
lol the RDC's locked the dummies and the strechers somewhere so we basically just walked through

>>130362322
Good chance they were probably niggers

>>130365101
The US military is huge. And like all large objects it has a lot of inertia. You can't nudge it in the direction you want without considerable efforts.

>>130365305
7 of them are 6ft deep

>>130364930
Doesn't matter what rank, tons of man hours were wasted looking for someone who was hiding out. Something fishy is going on out there at sea.

>>130361778
Died for ZOG killed by a cargo ship filled with the products of slave labor to fill the gluttonous appetite of a decadent jewified society
rip

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>>130361778

>>130365324
This, navy is stuffed to the gills with them despite their inability to swim.

Sucks. Military service is no joke.

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>>130362322
edge/10

>>130363508
Look at that course!!! Why? What were they searching for? The Fitzgerald? How did the Fitzgerald not see them coming? Lights off?

>>130364606
Someone mentioned that in another thread, and then linked to the wiki article. Unless that account is totally fictitious, I really don't see how McCain was responsible for that fire at all.

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>>130365432
remember when you lost a war to emus

>>130365459
this is a lie everyone that gets through bootcamp has passed a water survival and swim test. It is funny though the majority of people who have to go to extra swimming are black

>>130365418
>some sailor is hiding
This is nothing new retard. People are overworked and tired and find somewhere to sleep so they can skip out on work. Why they turned it into a shipwide search, who knows? We used to have to go find people that had watch or scheduled maintenance and they'd be in the head sleeping on a toilet.

>>130361778
F again this is too awful

>>130364342
DESIGNATED POOP DECK

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>>130365432
>wasteposting

ur doing it wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy6AOGRsR80
F

>>130365608
what was your rate?

>>130365716
MM

>>130364159
I wouldn't say they lived through it rbh

>>130361778
Sounds like somebody on that ship is a future Senator for Arizona.

>>130365739
nuke?

>>130365571
Yes, but after over literally 100's of attempts at passing the swim portion.

I ate at the mess along with Ship 05 SEPS and almost all the black kids there were trying to pass the swim for multiple months. Eventually they get it once.

>>130361778
F
>sleep well lads

>>130365813
Conventional. Worked in reactor though.

>>130364008
This, probably.

The military does its best to spare the public and (more importantly) the families of deceased soldiers as much of the gory details as possible. You tell them "your son threw himself onto a grenade to save his unit" not "your son threw himself onto a grenade to save his unit and then spent six agonizing minutes bleeding out and crying for his mother while trying to scoop his intestines back into his upper half with one hand and drag himself a few yards away to where his lower half ended up"

>>130364282
I suppose you think this big ass war ship can turn on a dime like your daddy's sailboat too. Perhaps it can do some sort of barrel roll loop d loop to avoid a collision because it has radar and stuff so yea you know

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>>130361778
The Philippines should've never been granted independence.
recolonization of the Philippines

>>130361778
One time in commie Poland a ship under construction was behind schedule so the people in charge sent in a huge number of workers to try and catch up. This was such an uncoordinated desperate effort that it ended up causing a huge fire on deck, and twenty workers ended up trapped inside.

They managed to survive inside for several hours (they continued to strike the surface with hammers so their location was known) and their colleagues wanted to cut them a way out but the people in charge brought in armed police to stop them because they didn't want the ship damaged further.

In the end the 20 workmen were cooked alive before the fire was contained.

>>130364662
Less than 50 hours after the maresk Memphis hoax.

Webb claimed there was a nuclear weapon in a container aboard the maresk Memphis a container ship docked in Charleston harbor. This triggered a response from the USCG NEST and FBI.

They searched the ship and closed the port but no weapon was found. Webb has been charged and is in custody the fbi is investigating him further.


But the timing is very concerning yes. I really hope this wasn't intentional somehow.
>>130364801
The captain of the Fitz appears to have been off watch and asleep at the time and was injured in the impact he had to be airlifted out. Not clear who the officer in charge at the time was YET.

called it gud

the nation of israel will remember their sacrifice

>>130364984
Stop please I sail on commercial ships and this is scaring the fuck out of even me.

This is Trump's fault
impeachment when?

https://www.navytimes.com/articles/surprise-cruiser-shiloh-sailor-presumed-overboard-and-dead-discovered-hiding-on-board

>>130365305

I'm not a Navyfag so I don't understand how this is usually handled. Is the CO/XO looking at jail time? Or is he just going to be demoted and his career will never go anywhere unless a world war breaks out?

>>130365418
It's not that uncommon for people to break. 5 people from my intake attempted suicide before their first real posting. 1 guy hid in his quarters for 3 days, then flee'd across country. He was found by the NP's several months later trying to sell his parent's belongings to buy a plane ticket. He'd grown a beard and dyed his hair blue.

We had one guy dive off the quarter-deck and swim ashore during slipping because his wife was threatening to suicide and take the kids with her if he deployed, and he couldn't get support from anywhere in his divisional chain to not deploy.

The military has a unique way of forcing people into desperate situations. All it takes is an NCO deciding he doesn't like how your face looks, and your life is hell for the next 8-12 months. The military is also incredibly clique-y. Sometimes people just get completely ostracised and isolated for no real reason. Imagine the worst kind of school bullying, except you can't stand up for yourself, you have nowhere to run, and you're locked in a steel box floating in the ocean for months at a time with your tormentors.

rip. godspeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_MLe15qN_M

>>130365004
The alarm wouldn't have fucking mattered the compartment collapsed in on itself and was sealed by water tight doors whoever wasn't crushed and trapped in their rack drowned.
>>130364077
This is accurate

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RIP my sailor brothers

>all these people supporting the troops unironically

ily guys~

>>130365305
They'll find a way to blame some E6 for not keeping immaculate training records. Officers don't ever have to deal with the consequences of their decisions anymore.

>>130366048
I actually don't know. I know his career is fucked. But I don't know if any charges will be brought up, I don't know how that would work. I've never been in a situation that was caused by such gross negligence like this.

>>130362037
F

>>130362322

Agreed, they were little Eichmanns collectively enforcing the reign of American imperial terrorism.

>>130361778
Who was supposed to be watching the surface radar that night?

>>130365943
Thank you. I heard some of that, but I follow groups of people that are 100% devoted to him & others that hate him & everything about him. So the info was all over the place to the point I just stopped reading.

It just jumped out at me because of the type of ships & the cargo containers they were carrying. The 1st reports on this made it sound like the Fitz hit some small local merchant boat. That pissed me off too

>>130365571
lol when was this i am a navy dropout

>>130363479

F

>>130366033
Shut the fuck up commie men are dead

>>130364342
Fuck off poo

>>130365004
You obviously don't know what happens when the collision alarm is sounded. Sailors are taught to brace, so at most you would have gotten a few groggy sailors holding on to their racks with their knees bent, crouching in place. They wouldn't have left the berthing.

>>130366188
I could see something like this happening. A bunch of high ranking officers do "fact finding" and pour through logs and shit.

I don't know how shit works up on the bridge, but I was in the plant and I screwed up once by removing a lubeoil thermometer but it also pulled out this sheath. So when they fired everything up it squirted a jet of lubeoil out. Wasn't even that big of a deal, they just shut everything off. But oh fucking boy, they had the Master Chief and the Department Head who was also a captain with all these junior officers do a two day fact finding to figure out my EXACT actions, pouring through tech manuals, and they wanted to smash me for not following the exact order of operations or whatever. Over some lube oil that squirted out. We cleaned it up with rags.

>>130364282

> I mean, I guarantee you it did, but why wasn't it on?

A guess, their alarm system was only designed for military situations with vastly higher speeds of approach and accelerations. With no one thinking to spec a civvy mode.

Which would mean it would just keep blaring non stop near a port.

>>130366027
>Stop please I sail on commercial ships and this is scaring the fuck out of even me.

I'm sure your crews are highly motivated professionals who would never cut corners, and that your commercial vessels are superbly equipped to withstand ramming, reefs and the occasional old floating sea mine. What could possibly go wrong?

They unironically deserved the hit from the head shed's gross incompetence.
Death to America, Japanese steel folded 10000 times crushes sailors, filthy gaijan go home

>>130366048
>>130366214
>>130366188

Naval Officers don't get punished. They'll find a way to scape goat a low ranking NCO who will have his career ruined, then promote the CO, XO, and maybe even OOW to a desk job in a back office where they can lay low an not fuck things up for a while.

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>>130364606
>huur...mccain

meanwhile, flat foot draft dodger trump can't get laid buying furniture

try harder faggot

>>130366048
Minimum the dude gets turbo discharged OTH with no benefits if they find fault. If they find negligence or intent the dude is going to be facing manslaughter charges.

>>130362037
They were murdered by the bridge crew who drove into a fucking container ship. Someone will go to jail for this.

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>>130366596
McCain killed over 100 US sailors by burning down the ship.

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>>130364077

jesus h christ.

>>130366650
Don't kid yourself. These aren't enlisted we're talking about. Officers get "force retired" with full bennies and parting blowjobs as they get rung off the ship for the last time.

>>130365571
Duh. Different bone density.

>>130366403
Jeremy?

>>130362322
They were probably black you mong.

>>130366467
Youre right I don't. Sorry if I sounded like an asshole. How many are usually sleeping in a berthing at once at 2:30 in the morning?

It makes me sad reading these replies about sealing the room to save the rest of the ship. I mean, I know it has to happen, I just feel terrible for whoever has to do it knowing people are still in there.

I'll go back to just thinking about how the Cargo ship is the asshole in this. Thank you for explaining though!

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>>130366545

>What could possibly go wrong?

Why would they let a shark use a computer?

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>>130364850
Sauce?

>I wouldn't be surprised if that Jap Nippon shipper fucked up.

At the same time, I have a hard time understanding why the accident occurred when visibility was just fine.

>>130366510
Could have caused a major fire or explosion.

But not technically your fault persay you should be more careful though. Shit happens though. The navy is kind of messed up these days it has command flaws that need reform deep seated reform

>>130365812
Underrated

HahahahahahahahahahHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Stop wars!

>>130363333
Moro Island Liberation Navy? ISIN?

are the sea is a cruel misstress, but there is ham night!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs5LkCHaUBo

>>130366467

So a collision alarm sounding for minutes, with everyone in charge knowing exactly which side of the ship will be hit with minutes of warning and no one thinks maybe they should evacuate quarters on that side?

I guess that's possibly how it happened too, still a staggering amount of incompetence in that case.

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>>130365850
Bullshit.

Google; Clayton Hartwig

>>130362815
This. They better have all the heads of anyonenfrom the helmsman up to the admiral. That will show them to get their shit together. This shit in unnaceptable in 2017 while in command of a billion dollar vessel.

cant wait till a carrier is sunk its going to a rude awakening for america

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>>130361778
Who would win?

>1000 Arleigh Burger-class destroyers
Vs
>1 Nip cargo ship

>>130361778
Well that was expected.

Anyway, who's to blame for the accident? The captain of the freighter?

>>130366948
>>So a collision alarm sounding for minutes
There was no alarm.

>>130361778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vST6hVRj2A

>>130366883
At that hour on a DDG, most of the crew would have been asleep. The only people awake are the watch standers. Navy ships keep day/night cycles.

>>130363508
>The Phillipines is full of islamic nutjobs.
>It's time to bomb these monkey fuckers.
Get Duterte to take care of it.

What a horrible way to die
How did this happen anyway

>>130364984
Thank God I moved to Wyoming after I got out

If I ever see the ocean again it'll be too soon

>>130366568
Well, you really got your panties in a wad.

>>130366545
The Exxon Valdez and Torry canyon and El Faro are examples of what can go wrong.

I do not sail on foreign flag vessels which cut a shit load of corners and employ the cheapest labor possible the vessel that hit Fitzgerald was one of these.

Please stop. I don't know what your sarcasm was supposed to do here

>>130364201
Cargo ship of peace?

>>130367004
No missiles or cannons allowed btw.

>>130367065
But what were the people on watch doing? Having a wank? Some retarded fuck got sailors killed by not doing his job.

>>130366883
Depends on which berthing it was. I was on a carrier so each department had its own berthing. I'd say at 2am about half the berthing had sleeping sailors in it. Everyone else was either on watch, working on something, watching TV somewhere because they couldn't sleep, or on the messdecks drinking coffee and playing on their laptops.

>>130366948
All you usually get told is "Brace" accompanied by the direction the hit will come from. If they wanted to get everyone up and out of berthing they would have sounded GQ.

Is there any timeline yet? Does anyone know what actions were actually taken by the DDG crew?

>>130367104
>I do not sail on foreign flag vessels which cut a shit load of corners and employ the cheapest labor possible the vessel that hit Fitzgerald was one of these.
What? There are Western ships these days that aren't mostly crewed by Indonesians and Peruvians?

>>130366774
>mccain's plane didnt fire the zumi rocket

read a book, roo fucker

>>130366797
Entirely depends on the officer. I've seen full birds get force retired because their swinger lifestyle didn't agree with some general officer and I've seen majors get DUIs swept under the rug so they could get transferred and promoted to LTC. This was Army though. Maybe everyone just gets a sweetheart deal in the Navy.

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>>130367065
Avast, hand over ye booty or be keelhauled and nipped by small reptiles!

>>130365550
Australian do not drink that shit drink Fosters, its only for the British...

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>>130362528
came here to post this

F

>>130367054

Which brings us back to what the fuck they were doing on the bridge. CIWS to protect against supersonic missiles, container ship broadsides it near walking speed.

>>130367082
We thought the Fitz was at fault and cut across the container ships course but it appears now the container ship was making some bizarre course changes that are not easy to explain.

This is going to take time to figure out.

DEATH TO ALL AMERICANS

>>130367158
Agreed. Then again, when I was on a DDG, we dropped a simulated weapon without authorization and one of our helos almost got hit by an F/A-18 during an exercise, so I'm not surprised when stuff like this happens. The TAO and most of CIC must have been asleep. I'll be interested to see further information on this.

>>130365284
>delta
>navy sailors
>equivalent

>>130367228
Very few of us remain but yes there are still united states flagged merchant vessels.

Only exist because of the Jones act.

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>>130362528
vocalized version w/ video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KCiMdR1ox0

>>130367238
The people in the Navy who are most accountable for anything are the ones whose pants are NOT khaki.

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>>130367375
AVAST I SAY AVAST

WE BE TAKIN YER LARDER AND LEDGER, YE SCURVY SEA DOG

>>130366510
I had something similar.
>Used to be FCO.
>While doing my SOCs, I asked PWO for permission to carry out Gun SOCs (involves training and elevating the 5" on the foc'scle). >Got given the green light.
>Created a NG target on the console, trained Gun 90 to port.
>Screaming on all channels coming through my headset.
>PWO had failed to inform me cable party was closed up.
>I immediately yanked all safeties which locks the gun in position so the cable party could safely get off the foc'sle.
>PWO Starts screaming at me across the Ops Room to train the gun back fore-and-aft
>I protest
>Screams more, direct order blah blah
>Follow order
>More screaming down headset
>XO runs into Ops Room going off his rocker
>I get chewed out
>A Command investigation is carried out
>PWO all ready in the shit for an earlier incident where they weren't taking control of a towed target exercise and the target collided with the ship
>Command tries to scape goat me for the whole incident.
>They spend days pouring over logs, SOPs, interviewing Ops Room pers.
>Come up empty handed but still effectively hand it to the chief NP with the instructions to fuck me because they don't want it on the PWO.
>Managed to get the one NP in the Navy who isn't a total cunt.
>He realizes the whole thing is bullshit, I followed procedure to the letter and the PWO failed to do their job, then ordered me to conduct a safety breach..
>Refuses to run me in.
>Command bury the incident.

>>130367158
The problem is complacency. It's the biggest problem throughout the entire Navy, in my opinion. People on watch don't fucking pay attention. It was a huge problem being a mechanic because people would "blaze" their logs. You're supposed to take readings every hour on equipment, and keep an eye on the water level in the bilge. The bilge is basically a giant drip-pan at the bottom of the ship that fills up with water and needs to be drained. Well people just fucking chill and write in the previous number that was listed the last hour and hang out under the vents and bullshit. So multiple people doing a day's worth of logs don't monitor the water level and just write in the previous number of 2", and then you actually have someone go do their fucking job and realize that the water level has risen up to like three fucking feet and is threatening to submerge something electrical. Or they don't monitor temperatures or pressures and something gets dangerously out of spec.

I'd imagine it's the same thing up on the bridge. Some second class petty officer too busy flirting with the boat goat and not paying attention because that's what he's done for two years and nothing happened. Now you have a seven dead sailors and damaged ship.

i think it's chicken noodle soup time, if i have any left. might have to make spam our rice.

>>130367384
Yeah...actually the Navy ASVAB is higher than the Army, so suck a dick.

>delta
>rednecks that eat snakes

>>130361778
Why didn't they fly on the eagles?

Ramming other ships is a legitimate battle tactic? I thought it was just anime bullshit.

>tfw will never be in the military because literally near retarded

>>130361778
Honestly, it's pretty sad. Like fuck, you joined for a steady pay check and college and get killed by someone's incompetence. Pretty shitty all meme shit aside.

>>130361778
Hahaha, zogbots btfo

S to shit in their grave

>>130367547
Between the bridge crew and CIC, I would personally put more blame on CIC. They are supposed to maintain COMPLETE situational awareness. They are the ones that tell the bridge which direction to turn half the time for fuck's sake! If it was dark, the bridge would have been relying on updates and orders from CIC, not flying by the seat of their pants.

That said, I'm sure there's plenty of blame to go around on this one.

>>130367557
i had to have spam, the fucking oligarch is holding me down.

>>130367511
What's an SOC?

Hahaha fuckin' faggots.

Couple less welfare leeches, boohoo.

>>130361778
>have a friend on a destroyer in the 7th Fleet
>haven't heard from him in a while

I need to make some phone calls.

>>130361778
F

RIP in peace

>>130367804
It's fucking sad, and unfortunately it takes someone dying before the command decides to get off their asses and ensure that people are doing their jobs. As I said, complacency. It isn't just the kids fresh out of high school, it's the 1st classes and chiefs not cracking down and monitoring their people. It's the officers who are too busy hanging out in Wardroom.

>>130367870
It means cleaning toilets. It's what 90% of the people in the military do, and get unlimited welfare wasting our tax dollars.

>>130367891
Their families are going to get paid like $500k-$600k each. Bad day for SGLI.

>>130367547
This is a problem that plagues all departments on all ships, in all Navies.

Skins not doing their rounds during the middle watch, presigning rounds for 8 hours in the future so they don't have to get out of bed.

Shit-heads not doing BA pressure checks correctly, or at all. So half the BA sets on ship are under min pressure, or defective.

>>130368096
$400k is the payout for SGLI on active duty.

>>130367891
HANG YOURSELF FAGGOT

>>130368154
not a bad payday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtsKcHmceqY

>>130368096
Unless the Navy can find some way to fuck them out of their money by doing "fact finding" and discovering one of them wasn't supposed to be in their rack or doing something unauthorized.
>Oh, we're sorry, we can't pay out life insurance because Petty Officer Anderson's rack wasn't tucked in correctly and this led to his death

>>130368154
Dat death gratuity do

>>130366545
>tfw worked on a ship that already almost sank once, was bought out by the company due to almost free salvage price then caught fire and had half the engine room rebuilt

Third time's the charm. Fucking cancer factory.

Don't fall for the merchant marine meme. Shipping companies are the biggest kikes ever, second only to cruise lines.

>>130368045
Agreed. However, this is nothing to the casualties that will occur if we ever get into a naval war with a near-peer adversary that actually has a navy. A carrier strike group getting fucked up by submarines and long-range hypersonic anti-ship missiles is probably what it is going to take for the Navy to pull its head out of its ass, turn off the sexual assault powerpoint, and actually fix itself. My prediction is many more useless deaths to come before things even start to get fixed in the "World's Finest Navy".

>>130367870
>>130368056

Standard Operator Checks. Daily checks of all equipment to make sure everything is functioning correctly. FCO checks would involve comms checks on all channels. Making sure main battery trains, elevates, loads, rams and sends firing pulse correctly. Also testing of FCR, and missile safeties.

Training the gun when pers are on deck is a huge no-no. They're giant hydraulic monstrosities that move way faster than you think they can, and can crush a human with no problem.

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>>130364832
Fuck off tripfag. Nobody cares about you. Your name or who you are forgiving.

>>130368056
I know you're trolling, but for real very few clean the toilets. Not like they're deck apes. Hate to be that goy, but if shit goes down they're the ones prepared to put some chinks at the bottom of the ocean so you're able to continue shit posting

>>130368445
Didn't that exact thing happen on the Essex or some amphib last year?

>>130366864
they probably were niggers. the navy swim qualifications are cake.
the coast guard only takes good swimmers -- therefore, the coast guard is the whitest branch of the military

i thought they had air mask things and could hook into it in any room

>>130368348
Wasn't wearing the proper PPE is always the go to. Had a buddy get shredded by a mine and all our CO wanted to know was whether he had eyepro on (he didn't). Nobody said a fucking word until a salty ass E5 pulled a scuffed ass set out of his dip pouch and claimed he'd recovered the eyepro.

Fucking officers man.

>>130368348
>and discovering one of them wasn't supposed to be in their rack or doing something unauthorized.
True that
It's fucked how sgli works. At least give enough cash for a funeral no matter what you find.

>>130368476
>implying I wouldn't side with the chinks against the American latino and nigger military.

>>130361778
rip

>>130366306
Hannah Arendt pls go

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>>130368056
>wasting our tax dollars.

I'm sure you pay tons of taxes, sucking dick for dimes behind Costco.

https://twitter.com/LemonSlayerUS/status/876066646238121985

> Fwiw, the only way USS Fitzgerald could have suffered damage it did is if it conducted emergency turn to port.

>USS Fitzgerald suffered "glancing blow" that caused the damage (serious as it was). If the ACX Crysta had hit USS Fitzgerald directly...

> Cont'd...and at speed, it would have either cut of USS Fitzgerald bow or rolled USS Fitzgerald over & made it "turn turtle".

>This is based on the effects of ACX Crystal's mass & speed. Since USS Fitzgerald didn't loose bow or turn turtle, only other possiblility

>Cont'd...is that USS Fitzgerald was doing an emergency turn away to port when "glancingly" struck by by ACX Crystal.

>>130367577
It depends on your job, moron. Equating boatfags with specops is retarded

>>130367420

>Only exist because of the Jones act.

Interesting law.

"In early 2015 Senator John McCain filed for an amendment that would essentially annul the Act."

Ah good old Manchurian McCain.

>>130362978
filipino*

>>130368056
this

>>130368534
Yes.

https://www.stripes.com/news/navy-report-says-gross-negligence-led-to-death-of-essex-sailor-1.170796

>>130368596
Your own officers would cheat you out of a widow's pension?

I thought your guys were supposed to be volunteers.

i think the money is well spent, but still that payday though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDYRNqeyCNs

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>>130368447
>bait_projection/10
kek

>>130366155
An alarm well before impact, dude.

>>130368596
PPE is a good one. Or they'll pull out some tech manual and say that he didn't follow the steps EXACTLY how they were written. We had a chief (E7) get electrocuted to death while in port and they didn't pay his family because the tech manual wasn't within his arm's reach, so their reasoning was that he wasn't following the steps and that led to his death. The electricians called him in because they couldn't figure it out and he was out celebrating his one year anniversary. Came in and got killed. The crew raised money for his funeral since the Navy jewed his family.

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>>130368730

>>130368656
Only traitors pay taxes.

>>130368903
oh thats sad, they should at least pay for funeral.

>>130368385
Oh right like the navy is any better. At least in the merchant fleet people can semi speak out about safety problems in the navy it is constantly covered up. The fucking carriers routinely dump jp1 at sea during unrep for fucks sake.

Knock it the fuck off the ocean is fucking dangerous and everybody just tries to do the best possible with what we are given shit is going to happen no matter what.

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>>130368730
No it doesn't moron.

Most Army can't even qualify for the basic Navy, which is why they huck rucks.

Army SPECOPS means you can tie your shoes and pitch a tent.

>>130368772
If burgers cuck themselves out the Jones act they would take a huge hit to their shipyards. Thus more unemployment onshore.

Then companies will start buying chink ships which are total garbage.

>>130369011
The solution to pollution is dilution.

>>130368629
I guess if you enjoy the idea of a beetle like race.More power to you. Honestly chinks are the least attractive of the asians after the southern asian people. I unironically/non-weeb think japs look better.

>>130368815
Pretty sure he just had a hard on for uniform violations. He told one of our E6's to roll down his sleeves during a firefight and would use our RAID camera to watch for unbloused boots on our OPs.

Promote ahead of peers that one.

>>130361778

That's a pretty horrible death.

F.

>>130368693
Yea bullshit and we have no proof she didn't part way roll and correct back after impact she's hulled and the keel is broken for fucks sake how much worse do you want it

>>130366359
SWIC, TAO, OOD, JOOD, NAV, QMOW, helmsman, lookouts port, starboard, fore, and aft.

73 radar has a collision alarm. So does the 67. Not to mention ECDIS.

Lots of things to tell the crew what was going on.

They could have been trail shafting which would have limited their pickup in speed however that it usually done when you are in wide open ocean, and not in a busy channel.

Lots of things went wrong on the Fitz. From a sailors perspective. The navigation route of the Crystal was odd too. It could be that they were spinning circles to kill time due to being ahead of schedule for their next port of call.

>>130369011
>everybody just tries to do the best possible
Hah, as fucking if.

>>130361778
See you later, space cowboys.
Good night, sweet princes.

>>130369221
The port can't possibly be hard enough to require a pilot, can it?

>>130366889
They were damaged on the starboard side, making the Nip vessel the leading ship.
The leading ship has a responsibility to change course in a fashion that allows the vessels off their port side to react.
This is the most basic nautical shit.

Good rule of thumb: The boat with damage on the starboard side is 98% not at fault for the collision.

>>130369221
If the Crystal was ahead of schedule, why wouldn't they drop anchor and save fuel?

>>130368772
John McCain is a fucking traitor to this country and everybody worth a shit knows it. I respect his service but his time in government has been cancer.

>>130369250
I've seen someone slice up a Monster can and braze it onto a pipe to fix a leak. Then they just painted over it and called it a day.

>>130369033
110 is the minimum ASVAB to attend cool guy schools. This might shock you but huge portions of the army infantry have over a 110 GT score. 3 people in my squad has over 140 GT scores.

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>>130367420
>John McCain tried to kill the Jones Act

Why am I not surprised. What analzheimers ravaged traitor.

>>130369105
Chinks aren't anti-white. Americans are.

>>130369033
Your bait is horrible.
>Navy full of blacks
>Navy is the smartest

Can I get a sauce on the no collision alarm?

>>130369349

>I respect his service

Why?

He was a traitor there too.

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>>130369337
>The leading ship has a responsibility to change course in a fashion that allows the vessels off their port side to react.
>This is the most basic nautical shit.
Is that some American shit or something? You're meant to avoid the ship on your starboard side, so if you're getting rammed on the starboard, you've probably made a mistake.

>When two power-driven vessels are crossing, the vessel which has the other on the starboard side must give way and avoid crossing ahead of her.[11][page needed] The saying is "If to starboard red appear, 'tis your duty to keep clear".[18] "...Act as judgement says is proper: port or starboard, back or stop her."

well sailing around without running into anybody should be pretty standard by now.

>>130364850
Don't get all pissy about it you little fucktard.

You sign your life away on that dotted line, expect to die at some point.

Yeah it sucks but life goes on, so get over it faggot.

>t. GM3

>>130368900
They would have braced not left the compartment

From the pictures, it appears that berthings 1 and 2 were close to the area that took the damage. Berthing 1 is on the 3rd deck and berthing 2 is below it on the 4th deck. When i left the Fitz in 2015 the supply dept was in b1 and combat systems and weapons departments were in b2. We had just done a major berthing switch that year, prior to that b2 was the female berthing.

>>130361778

If one of them is named Edmund, it'll be perfect.

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>>130368096

That's cheaper than what it would cost had the faggots lived.

I say fuck those faggots.

Hahaha. They drowned, that's funny.

>>130369419
Aviation really is the worst festering pile of niggers you've ever seen.
It's the real reason they switched to the Super Hornet, with its automated troubleshooting system.
Shitpile aircraft, but niggers don't have to do any thinking to fix it.

>>130369087
Lol sad but I've heard this before

>>130369700
I would have thought the cooks were. It's half flip half nigger.

>>130365418
Are you fucking retarded?

Some random ass E-4 does some stupid shit and suddenly there's a massive conspiracy afoot?

>>130369318
Not there. 50 some miles from Yoko. Usually the pilot comes aboard about 10 or so miles out.

>>130369767
Mail handlers are the biggest niggers in the Navy. Not even close.

>>130364492
>>130364646
>>130364879
>>130365632
>>130366445
Americans getting BTFO by India

>>130369220
A journalist quoted the tweets and pretty much stated this is fact. I figured I would post it here since there are a few of you tonight who seem to know what youre talking about. This persons account is pathetic & it's annoying that a journalist is passing it off as what actually happened.

Thank you for explaining. Why are people & journalists automatically blaming the Fitzgerald for this? It's a fucking sad situation & it's being treated as a fucking joke. makes me mad.

>>130369767
Ever had chicken curry made with sugar instead of salt? It was a fucking staple for midrats on the Washington.

>>130369847
>50 some miles from Yoko
Oh, didn't realise it was that far off. Just makes it all the odder how the fuck it happened.

>>130369033
total bullshit. stay mad, nigger.

>>130366052

>He'd grown a beard and dyed his hair blue.

Was this an Army EOD guy?

If so, I knew him.

>>130369979

oh nm, you're navy.

>>130369318
Slipping and berthing can be pretty dangerous.

Also many ports have limited berths, and are pre-booked based on time. This includes tug boats which are pretty much a necessity for any large ship.

If they'd arrived ahead of schedule, they would have had to just kill time which would explain why thy were doing circles.

>>130369011
How did you get the implication I thought the Navy is better? At least in the merchant marine I have my own cabin, half the year off and a thicc paycheck to offset the retardation. Plus every single ex Navy engineering officer I've met has been a fucking useless mongoloid and I'm thankful for the privilege of being able to walk off the ship and get fired if things become too retarded.

The ocean is safe enough unless your captain is a moron with no spine who decides to sail into a hurricane because of company orders, a ship that's properly built to spec with a competent crew is extremely safe. That is until companies start jewing out on ships, crewing and safety equipment. And this is with top tier shipping companies. Ive heard enough stories on how filth tier Greek, Slavic and Chinese companies are.

>>130361778
how the fuck does this even happen

I guarantee some nigger on the bridge was playing on his phone or something

>>130369348
Probably no berths to anchor, or their schedule only needed to be delayed for an hour or two. Dropping anchor takes some time to execute and make sure it holds. At that time of day most of the crew is in the rack. I'd venture to say that the Philippines ship had their B team on watch at 2 am.

>>130369915
Appreciate it as to why because they are ignorant I guess.

I am going to bed going to try and not have the nightmare where I drown in the fucking engine room again. Fuck this is awful.

>>130370067
Good point. Thanks.

>>130369522
That's when crossing paths, not alongside.
Crossing paths is incredibly rare.

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>>130369920
Our cooks used to make whatever the fuck they wanted. These niggers got so lazy they started putting out a "potato bar". No meat, no vegetables. Just french fries, tatertots, and other potato based products. It was either that or the flips would whip up some weird jungle mix with rice and fruit. It was awful, until some senior chief walked through and asked what the fuck they were doing. Apparently they have to follow exact guidelines and not supposed to just throw shit together.

If there's one food I'll never fucking miss, it's this.

>>130368656
Cleaning the toilets at Costco would be more honorable than being a US mercenary. Fucking welfare queens.

>>130369419
>>130369700
Navy is full of Filos.
Army is full of Niggers
Airforce is full of chinks.

F

>>130364008
This had to take the body's to the mainland for identification that's a closed casket for sure.

I did a ton of lagging work in those spaces. what a waste.

>>130370164
>Chicken Cordon Boat
I had almost forgotten, anonmate.

>>130369379
AFQT is the important score for entrance to most services. GT and other combos just elevate your chances for a particular job.

Saying 110 on your ASVAB is wrong as 99 is the highest AFQT you can achieve.

>>130370211
there wasnt a single flip in navy boot camp fuck off

>>130363333
Muslims.

Screencap this post.

>>130370259
What?!? Why wouldn't they just check the list of who didn't show up to their GQ station?

>>130369522
Nice for quoting the rules of the road!

>>130370307
Uh...like 20% of the crew on my ship were Flips.

So I don't know what the puck you're talking about shipmate.

>>130370164
Fuck dude, they serve that at our mtf. My favorite meal at midnight after I get my patients settled
I'm seriously pissed whenever it isn't served.

>>130370151
>Crossing paths is incredibly rare.
Between cargo ships, maybe. Happens daily between smaller vessels, as well as smaller vessels and large boats.
>not alongside.
They were headed in the same direction? So the Burke basically sailed itself straight into the ship's path?

>>130370184
Careful with those edges, buddy.

>>130370211
>Airforce is full of chinks
lol, No

>>130369620
Hooray for female berthing! I was in the 7th fleet when they converted a CG for women at sea. Took the best operating ship on the waterfront to a fucking soap opera.

>>130370368
Are you burgers not required to wear dog tags past alpha buoy?

>>130370524
Nasty ass bitches. I knew a couple of people that had to go cranking in trash and they would always complain that the girls would throw their panties stained with period blood into dunnage. Some weirdo used to pick them out and keep them under his pillow. He also had shivs he made from hacksaw blades wrapped in duct tape.

>>130370368
Because when you have seven red puddles of goo you need to sort out who's who. Also probably won't release the names until next of kin have been notified.

>>130370524
If we hadn't made the switch all the drowned sailors would've been females.

>>130370622
I don't know anyone that wore dogtags out of bootcamp.

>>130369379
>>130369419
>>130369960
>hurr...I knew smart army guise

sorry, paco.
you didn't.