How does /pol/ feel about the fatty tax?

>>130356394
It's probably fucking retarded with things like applying the tax to diet soda and skipping juice because "fruit is healthy"

>taxing a subsidized corn product
Really jingles my jangles

>>130356394
People stop buying soda, so the increased tax revenue is never realized, and businesses lose profit.

>>130356394
It's my state, dude. They're just doing what they can to postpone the inevitable fall off the cliff.

>>130356394
i think that people will still get fat

>>130356394
>go to store
>soda is cheaper than water
wew

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>less money for niggers, grape soda more expensive
good
>niggers get more welfare
bad
Such is life in chicagoland

>>130356394
did you know soda stream is made in Israel?
pay your taxes goys

>>130356394
It should be my God-given right to go down to the local 7-11 and get 64 ounces of Coca-Cola, a big bag of chips and a candy bar without the government picking my pocket.

>>130356545
>Implying fatties will stop buying soda

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>>130356545
>People stop buying soda

Good one

>>130356677
>go to any store
>this never happens
wew

>>130356544
This, I'm all for taxing fatties but what are we really doing here

A 2-liter soda should cost as much as a pack of cigarettes.

>>130356809
>>130356868

It's happened before. Have you really never met an ex-smoker who told you they quit because it was getting too expensive?

I swear /pol/ is all fucking 14.

>>130356394
Good idea for states to gain revenue.

>>130356394
This is the only way public healthcare should be funded

>>130356394
It should be a direct fat tax. Every lb over 200 for men and 160 for women should add 0.25% to your income taxes

Illinois is on the verge of declaring bankruptcy.

Fatties, it's now time to pay for all the government goodies!!

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>>130356394
1. you shouldn't drink soda
2. but not the governents busnisss
'sin taxs' are bad government. why not a $50,000 tax on handguns or a 10,000 tax on abortions, or whatever you don't like.
3. what they should do is make fatties pay more for services, so you don't punish moderate soda drinkers

>>130357221
Smoking as it is, is expensive af. A pack a day is at least another meal, yet they will still rifle through that shit.

>>130356394
>How does /pol/ feel about the fatty tax?
taxes like these never go where they are supposed to go.
I guarantee the budgets of departments related to health will stay mostly the same eventually inflation will eat up the difference and this tax will become yet another revenue stream for the ever growing state.

>>130356394
Just subsidizing corn. Don't subsidize corn and tax corn products.

>>130356786
If public health care doesn't get axed then it's going to be people like you picking our pockets

>>130356544
THIS.

Want people to eat healthier food? Stop subsidizing the bad food!

>>130356473
Christ you're probably right.
The amount of ignorance in congress over the sectors they regulate is horrifying

>>130356394
Soon theyll have a general comfort tax

>>130356545
>sugar peddlers lose profits
Good

>>130356545
>People stop buying soda

that would be the ultimate gain

Nobody knows what healthy means, so I'm entirely against this.

>>130356786
It is your god given right. But that shit is only in the stores to make money for everyone except the person buying it. They can jack the price up as much as they want, it not up to you. And we all know fatties will still buy that shit no matter how expensive it is.

does this include diet

i drink like 8 diet dr peppers a day

>>130357409
Fuck off, commie scum

>>130356786
It's also the god given right of doctors and hospitals to refuse to treat your fat ass for preventable illness but for bullshit legal and cultural reasons they won't do that so now the whole system is fucked.

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>>130356677
>Not drinking filtered tap water
Shiggy

>>130356473
>>130357523
Yeah, fruit juice can be pretty high in sugar.

If I need to drink fruit juice, I only pick orange juice since it has the best amount of vitamins and minerals for your buck compared to Apple Juice which just has one vitamin listed and sugar.

However, I don't know what to feel about V8.

Do you guys think V8 is unhealthy?

>>130356394
If Illinois really wanted to raise money and cut heath costs they'd prohibit EBT from being used to buy soda, but they'll never do that.

>>130357221
I know plenty of people who never took it up because of how expensive it is.

>>130356394
good, but expect the lard asses to vote red to remove this.

>>130357694
Sugar does not cause obesity. Sugar guzzling fruitarians are the thinnest people out there.

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>>130356394
'Illinois soda tax could drive down soda sales, lead to economic stagnation'

'Illinois politicians entering tax death spiral as they fail to comprehend basic economics as they apply dozens of new taxes'

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>>130356545
>people are more healthy
>less money being wasted on their fat illness
>more money in other markets

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>>130357777
>Sugar guzzling fruitarians are the thinnest people out there.

>>130357719
Regular V8 has a fuckton of salt, and low salt V8 tastes like rat piss.

>>130357719
v8 is basically tomato juice with a few tiny amounts of other vegetables thrown in with a SHITLOAD of salt.

It's not as bad as, say, grape juice, but it's not a "vegetable" juice.

Tomatoes are not fucking vegetables.

>>130356394
I have no problem with consumption taxes like this, soda is trash and if you make a personal choice to consume it and destroy your health it should also disqualify you from receiving any kind of public funded healthcare.

>>130357624
I don't mind private businesses making profit. I object to government hurting private businesses by stacking exorbitant taxes on products for the specific goal of ensuring that people won't buy that product. If the government doesn't want people smoking or drinking sodas then it can just try to make it illegal. But trying adding on taxes to jack up the price so people won't buy the product? That's bullshit.

I keep waiting for liberals to start passing gun taxes. "Oh we didn't make guns illegal. You can still buy all the guns you want. We just put a $20,000 tax on each one you buy."

Fuck that.

That's exactly what Chicago needs. More taxes.
>being this desperate for revenue
>the absolute state of Illinois right now

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>>130357719
It has a lot of sugar and it still tastes like shit

It's good its very fashie

>>130356394
I hate fat people who force me to pay taxes for their lard asses, so I'd rather they be taxed for soda if it means my taxes go down in turn

Also, take chips and soda out of the food welfare benefits. Nobody needs chips or soda yet they are the two most purchased food items using government money.

>>130356394
Wouldn't fat slobs just buy milk, and add like a gallon of chocolate syrup to it?
All it will do is make it so soda companies lose money. Fatties will buy something else that makes them fat, instead.

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>>130356473
>>130357523
>>130357719

>none of these guys seem to know the difference between 100% fruit juice, and the less-than-100% juice / the stuff made from concentrate (which rely on added sweeteners to make it taste like 100% juice)

>you landed on One Step Back

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>>130357840
>ywn have a qt revolutionary gf

>>130357694
>It's also the god given right of doctors and hospitals to refuse to treat your fat ass for preventable illness

What?
No it isn't.
What the fuck do you think "first do no harm" means, you goddamned retard?

Sweet beverage are a cancer for society. Fruit juice isn't any better. Even your all natural juice is extremely bad for your health because fructose is as terrible as sucralose if it's digested as free sugar, and it'S always free sugar in juices since the fibers of the fruits are destroyed during pressing.

Basically drink water and you'll be healthy, if you want fruits, eat the things, don't drink juice.

>>130357578
They'd still be getting tax money regardless of how few people actually consume it.

>>130356394
This won't lower incentive to buy soda.

A fatty doesn't care if soda is 5% more expensive. They want soda. This is just another tax with a bullshit excuse to make it seem reasonable.

Let's not forget that this state is close to bankruptcy.

>>130358044
>the stuff made from concentrate (which rely on added sweeteners to make it taste like 100% juice)

Fruit juice concentrates rarely have "extra" sugars in them. There's no need. They just mix less water in.

You seem to be very ignorant of what "concentration" means.

When you concentrate a fruit juice, you evaporate water from it, leaving like 90% sugar.

You don't need to ADD sugar. Just add back less water than a real fruit would have.

stop drinking soda you degenerate obese, diabetic niggers.

>>130357983
>I keep waiting for liberals to start passing gun taxes.
what do you think the nfa is? $200 was a lot of money in 1934

>>130357840
Yeah, that girl on the left is definitely a sugar guzzling fruitarian.

Her staple is almost certainly starches and oil.

>>130357221
>Have you really never met an ex-smoker who told you

No, because i don't associate with human trash. Don't ever reply to one of my posts again.

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Name one 'sin tax' that's actually applied correctly
Look at all the taxes, AND GAMBLING revenue raised in Mass. and yet they're STILL in the fucking red, and not getting infrastructure, etc. taken care of.
One of the many reasons I abandoned that communist bloc shit hole years ago.

>>130358388
So you live in your mother's basement and have no job? I kind of envy you. Except for the fact that you'll likely die without your parents to support you.

Must be nice to not have to interact with others and never have to earn money to survive.

>>130356394
High tax socialized economy of Illinois starting to crash? Let's tax more shit my man, that way consumers drop unless they're on welfare, great idea XDD..

>>130358255
good argument, I assumed wrong. Not everyone got sent to concentration camp

>>130357719
you should try clamato juce, it's pretty good, could be an acquired taste to most people

>Hey taxpayer, we're going to take your money to subsudise corn.
>Hey taxpayer, that cheap food we're giving you needs to be taxed some more

What we really need is a net worth tax, everything above $100 million should be taxed 5% a year.

>>130356394
good, they do after all cost society more so why not increase tax on commodities they will feel the impact on more than normal people?

>>130356544
First you pay the farmers to make corn then you tax products that is made from the shit farmers make that you pay them for. It is completely fucked up.

>>130358375
>Yeah, that girl on the left is definitely a sugar guzzling fruitarian.
those faggy fruit drinks are literally the same shit.

they generally have more sugar than soda does.

>>130356597
but now they help cover the costs related to it

Fat people and smokers end up costing the system way less than health people who spend decades on Medicare/Medicaid/social security etc

taxation is theft.

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>>130357221
This. Well I stopped smoking partly because people said it would make grils like me better.
>mfw it hasn't.

>>130358064
Doing nothing falls under the scope of "doing no harm". If someone comes in fucked and leaves just as fucked then you've done no harm shit for brains.

>>130356544
Forgot this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1xmGK8PEJw

fuck I just moved here
muh fresca

>>130356544
>>130356883
>>130357487

Government subsidizes corn production. Government taxes a product made with corn syrup.

While I agree that it's a hilarious dichotomy. Another way to look at it is the redistribution of wealth from fatties to farmers.

>corn constantly being villainized
>meanwhile soy is in everything and no one cares
really boils my peanuts

>>130358044
>>130357777
I always forget how many retards on /pol/ know absolutely nothing about nutrition. You guys have been throughly thoroughly Jewed.

>>130358979
Soy is only really bad when it's unsprouted and unfermented and you have a particular allergy to it or are a nursing baby. Otherwise it's just ridiculous hysteria. Plus the Monsanto monopoly has fallen on soy. So you can get plenty of non monopoly soy now for just as cheap as the monopolized shit.

>>130356677

> Can of soda: 79 cents
> 24 pack of bottled water: 99 cents

And all my goods come 200 miles via mountain road. Do you only shop at whole foods? Most of us don't pay $7.99 for "water with essence of lemon"

>>130358804
this is only true purely in healthcare costs.

its not true in overall productivity and contribution to society.

>>130356394
The argument goes like this:
The diet of inner-city residents is horrible and is the likely cause of obesity and diabetes, with which the public health system becomes overburdened.
The obvious answer, since an extraordinarily high percentage of the area is on food stamps, is to eliminate it from the permissible items. That cannot be achieved without an act of congress, since it's a federal program.
So, they've taken the path of applying a prohibitively high tax on the items.
Now, here's the good part: the city cannot collect the soda tax on sales via food stamps, since that violates the agreement.

What they've just done is to create a black market for soda, whereby only food stamp recipients can buy soda at cost.

>>130358861
I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

>>130359138
>out of the tap, 1 cent for 6 gorillion cubic feet.

>>130356394
dog bless ameriga

>>130357460
dude its nearly $30 bucks a pack of 25 in aus, now thats expensive

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>>130358388

>>130359196

I never said I bought the stuff, I was just noting it's cheaper than soda.

>>130356883
It's almost as though not allowing insurance companies to charge people an appropriate amount of money for being far was a bad idea.

>>130359214
Sheeit, when I quit it was 10 bucks for a budget brand 25 pack and I thought that was retarded.

>>130358375
>Venezuelans
>having staple foods
>having food at all
Her doet has consisted of pigeon and rat meat for the last 18 months

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>>130356394
Fuck yeah. Tax all Food like products 100%

>>130357409
Lol that is twice a healthy weight you fucking lardass pig

>>130356394
Doesn't bother me. Soda should be treated as candy, you shouldn't be having it with every single meal everyday.

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>>130356394
Let's be honest, people will STILL buy soda. What annoys me tho is that you damn well know that if Illinois does get that $500 million a year, they aren't gonna use it to deal with their UNPAID bills, it's gonna be used for more welfare checks.
Just look at what California does EVERYTIME they raise or create a new tax.

>>130359389
>100 lb healthy for a man
lolwut scrawny boy?

>>130359283
Why not instead charge people based upon how often they use health care services?

I have no problem with fatties who don't abuse the system. Be fat and die young if you want, just don't fuck with my taxes.

>>130356786
This 100%

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>>130359163
Im glad you bought up the idea of a black market. I live in Illinois right by the border with Indiana, a walmart is just 2 miles from the border. One of my plans when this goes into effect is to bootleg soda and cigs.

>>130356394
I firmly disagree with the use of taxes to modify behavior, it should be used to raise funds for very specific projects and thats it.

>>130356394
>give tax breaks, and incentives to farmers who produce ingredients for high fructose corn syrup
>tax soda

it's like you enjoy being cucked.

OP is always a faggot.

soda tastes like shit

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>>130359519
You sir are a true entrepreneur.

>>130359426
Hey, that's not fair.
California recently raised the pay of state workers after furloughing them for 4 years and not having raised their wages in over 6 years.

Now they make 4% more of a wage that's less than HALF of what private industry pays!

>>130359519
the margins would be very close to 0% for you

>>130356394
Excellent. Tax fast food that way too.

>>130359192
That persons kids need to learn about consequences. We've created a system where we've collectivized accountability and redistributed it among only the well off, responsible people. Those whomdoo good for themselves are punished while those who harm themselves are rewarded.
If you wanna be a fat fuck, fine, but
A) society is perfectly justified in shaming you and hating you
B) you should have to foot the bill for treating your preventable illness on your own
And a Doctor is never compelled to care for a patient.

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>>130359632
Funny thing is one of my ham radio buds has a soda machine for sale that needs some fixing up. Get it working and set it outside by the sidewalk. Like a damn printing press

>>130359389
manlet

>>130356394
I approve
finally taxing something I can get behind

>>130359457
hes a fucking nip. they never grow past like age 12

>>130359721
If i even make a 1% margin, thats money for nothing

If you drink pop you deserve every bad thing that happens to you.

As for me it's water, the best drink.

>>130359142
The fuck are you contributing to society that smokers don't

What the fuck is grandama with alzheimers in the retirement home my tax dollars are paying for, contributing to society?

>>130359816
It's the grown up version of the lemonade stand.

>>130358754
Giving the government a new tax to waste on more gibs won't cover anything.

>implying niggers won't chimpout once you take away their grape drank

>>130359917
Water with your poutine. Wonderful.

>>130359928
grandma actually was productive and held down a job for decades.

mclardass barely held anything that wasnt a triple cheese burger.

>>130357719
V8 tastes like shit and is not healthy. The fruit V8 tastes amazing but it's basically just a smoothie at that point.

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>>130359928
Hundreds of thousands of dollars of productivity over a career.

drinking soda is really bad for your health
not because it makes you obese, but because sugar is unhealthy

>>130356544
>soda is the only reason people grow corn

>ADM loses a tiny amount of money due to sugar tax
>Bribes government for more subsidies
>Corn syrup so cheap it's worthless
>Is added to literally everything as cheap filler
>More fat people than ever
Congratulations you played yourself, Illinois.

All the soda companies have to do is categorize their "soda" as "carbonated juice with artificial flavoring" and skip the tax

>>130356545
nah people are addicted to sugar just like booze or anything else. Pretty much everyone has some form of "addiction" sugar in that amount is just a cheap, soft-core drug.

>>130359835
>>130359855
I'd rather be a meter tall than a meter wide you disgusting blobs

>>130356394

What about those EBT (Food Stamp) cards?

I see them being used on soda and similar junk drinks like Arizona Iced Tea. Guess this sales tax just raises my fucking income taxes even more to pay for these degenerate's lifestyle?

>>130360304
Pretty much hfc syrup and livestock feed, thats 85% of production.

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>>130356394
>meanwhile in philly
>soda tax has cost the city 3000 jobs, over 1 billion in tax revenue as distributors and sellers move or shut down their businesses, and consumers simply do all their shopping outside city limits
>City of Philadelphia blames conspiracy of business owners against the city for the failure of the policy
>Chicago Tribune still tries to say soda tax will raise half a billion in taxes

>>130356394
DAILY REMINDER THAT TAXATION IS THEFT

>>130360020
Honestly, poutine is such a calorie-bomb that having anything other than water with it would be ludicrous.
That said, there's a slightly healthier variant in the Shawinigan area called "Patate sauce choux" which replaces the cheese with shredded cabbage. Pretty good stuff.

>>130360420
Dude, I'm 6'1" and when I was 190 lbs you could count my ribs. Don't go by weight, go by body fat percentage.

>>130359138

where the hell do you get a case of water that cheap? Everywhere in the US i've ever been which is basically every major region it's a minimum ~$4

>>130360020
>>130360547
there's literally nothing wrong with fat

>>130356394
>Illinois
You mean the state with no budget

>>130356394

Sugar isn't the problem.

It's people being lazy fat fucks who don't exercise.

It doesn't matter what you do to "curb" their food intake.

You can eat the healthiest food in the world and still be a fat fuck because you don't move enough.

>>130356394
collective punishment
fatties eat so much they die at 30
therefore everyone including responsible healthy people has to pay more

>>130360671
Bullshit. I can buy 20 gallons for 4 dollars

>>130356544
This. Corn was a mistake

fuck chicago
t. south illinois

>>130360778
I am uncomfortable when there are no cornfields around

>>130360724
>You can eat the healthiest food in the world and still be a fat fuck because you don't move enough.
you really cant be a lard ass eating loads of broccoli.

diet is the number 1 issue.

>>130360783
618?

>>130360751

It's just jewish tricks 101.

A tax on soda will no nothing but line the pockets of the big noses.

>>130360724
Calories in, calories out. Fat fucks who don't count their calories when they start exercising just end up eating more after their workouts.

If anyone in this thread is trying to cut down thir body fat, download a calorie counter on your phone. It's super fucking easy. Many of them have barcode scanners that take out 90% of the work.

>>130360830

Who the fuck lives on broccoli alone? What kind of bullshit argument are you trying to pull here you ugly ass faggot.

>>130360830
If your calorie deficit is in the positive, yes you can.

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>>130360751
While chicongo is by far the fattest city I have ever been to lets not pretend this has anything to do with fat people or that the leftists in Illinois care about anyones health. The state needs money and being the liberal hellhole it is they are running out of things to tax.

>>130360724
I mean if you excersie immediatly after drinking sugar high in glucose there's no problem, but soda is half fructose which converts mainly to fat regardless
also noted it's really easy to overtake sugar

>>130360859

Not everyone is equal.

I can stuff down 3000 calories a day and be fit.

It's about exercise, plain and simple. People don't want to hear this because they are lazy fat fucks who habitually lie to themselves.

>>130360899
>gets proven wrong
>HURR DURR WHAT KIND OF PERSON WOULD EAT A HEALTHY DIET
good try retard.

>>130360934
some of those vegetables have negative calories so good luck getting fat off of them.

Chicago area grocery store manager here

Right now the tax is just for cook county (Chicago is in cook county)and it's a penny an once. The state is now talking about adding their tax on top of it. It's a tax on anysweetened liquids and isn't at least 51% dairy. Most of the pop delivery companies in the area are preparing for the worst.a lot of people are worried about their jobs.

Fuck this state. The pieces of shit in Springfield haven't given us a budget in over 2 years.

The schools are being forced to take out loans against the money the state should have given them.

Our roads are falling apart and costing us money since there's no budget the federal government can't give us federal matching funds.

This is all on top of one of the highest sales tax in the country

I'm currently looking for a house just over the border in Wisconsin so I can get the fuck out

>>130360841
yes

>>130361075
Celery, that is it. If you consume 3000 calories of broccoli, and only burn off 2000 calories that day; your body will store the extra 1000 as fat.

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Why dont you stupid gaijin at least put vitamins in your soda so your gelatenous flesh mountains dont get scurvy?

>>130357714
ALEXAPURE PRO

>>130356394
100%

>>130361142
Same.

>>130361185
>Celery, that is it.
way more than that retard.

good luck.

>>130359098
this

>>130361226
neat

>>130358854
I just realized that girls liked me much more when I smoked. hm.

>>130361190
>not drinking homemade lemon water

>>130356394
>broke states starts calling for new taxes

In three years we will see headlines about how they can't figure out why so !any people are leaving illinois

>>130361015
Probably wasn't the brightest thing to do when they told Trump to fuck off and declared Sanctuary City status. It's like telling your boss to fuck off right after your landlord says you'll be evicted if you don't pay up.
But, hey, what do I know.

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>>130356394
They should be taxed just for existing

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>>130361231
Is it hard walking around with an iq of 60?

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>>130356394

>>130359532
taxes modify behavior even if theyre not supposed too

>>130358967
Typical retard that doesn't understand the economics of taxation.
Taxes affect both the consumer and producer.
Subsidies affect both the consumer and producer.
Taxation of corn syrup drinks lower the money received by the producer (farmers) and increases the amount paid by the consumers (fatties).
Subsidies of corn increase the money received by the producer (farmers) and decrease the money paid by the consumer (fatties by corn syrup drinks).
So no wealth redistribution is taking place.

>>130361190
Because we drink so much soda we would OD on vitamins

>>130361347
Too late. Already starting to happen and I'll be out of this shit hole once I graduate

>>130361292
Aint nobody got time for that shit.

>>130361407
>no source
>picture of it instead!
hmm

>>130361025

I'm calling bullshit.

Drinking soda is going to convert to fat as much as eating lasagna with a side order of 1lb of french fries.

I gained almost 20 pounds back in 2010. It was from eating tons of pastries and 4 course meals.

Eating lots of yeasty foods, such as bread along with cheese & noodles will make you fat.

This bullshit that cane sugar makes you fat is a jewish lie.

Cane sugar is a simple carb which burns fast regardless of how much you eat. It's why you have sugar highs and downs. Because it's a fat breakdown carb, unlike other carbs such as french bread or doughnuts.

This whole idea that oreos can make you fat is bullshit... There is no real heavy nutritional value to cane sugar or chocolate.

If you were to eat buckets of chocolate every day, you would die from starvation. You would lose weight because your body needs more than just cane sugar and cocoa.

>>130361715
starches are at least somwhat filling
you'll still feel hungry after drinking a gallon of soda

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>>130356394
You think that's bad? A pack of Marlboro reds cost $12:50+ in this corrupt as shit city.

If I have to hear one more fucking thing about what is and isn't REAL fat I'm going to kill myself.

I lost weight by eating less calories than I expended every day. I would often have a can of soda, knowing that meant I'd have to eat slightly less during my meals.

I gained weight by eating more calories than I expended every day.

Soda happens to be a pretty big source of calories. Calories in, calories out.

End my life.

>>130361712
http://www.everydayhealth.com/weight/zero-calorie-food-myths.aspx

https://www.google.com/amp/s/spoonuniversity.com/news/fact-fiction-negative-calorie-food-fad/amp

http://www.foodinsight.org/myth-zero-calorie-foods

Let me know if you need more

>>130358044
Regular fruit is full of sugar. However it is also typically full of fiber, so you can't eat too much of it in one sitting.

However when you turn it into juice, you can now drink like 30 apples instead of eating them and get mega sugar dose.

However IL is not passing this for people "health", they desperate need money and are just making shit up to get more money as next week their state bonds will be declared junk status.

Note, NY also doesn't care about your health. They need money so fuck it, tax sugar and then drop propaganda in the media they're just looking out for your best interest. In reality they have billions of debt to worry about from blowing it on democrat bullshit.

>>130357639
this, i drink one can of diet dr pepper every morning @ work

I'm not even a lardass, why do i gotta get taxed

>>130356394
If it does not include fruit juice then it's a sham.

>>130361991
It chaps my ass as well man. Losing weight is fucking simple. I dont understand why people need this fad shit to lose weight.

>>130361991
>>130361908

Starches yes, they will make you fat.

> you'll still feel hungry after drinking a gallon of soda

Exactly... try eating a bag of oreos when you are hungry... later that day you will feel drained, tired... because you didn't give your body much of anything to work with.

It's funny when you see these fatties talking about staying on a diet.

> I don't eat chocolate anymore, I don't drink soda anymore

But they pound down a fat cheeseburger with french fries, a cup of friend, a glass of milk and a few vegetables.

Their logic is;

> this food is healthy, thus eating as much as I want will keep me healthy and I will lose weight.

They are stubborn ignorant fatso's who lie to themselves daily.

>>130361960
Smoking is degeneracy anyway

>>130362089
>shit sources
nah im good.

feel free to find someone getting fat off of a veggie diet though.

I guarantee you're only going to find vegan skeletons.

>>130362560
hahaha

>>130362346
Fat people are too stupid to drink fruit juice.

Probably just a sugar tax, I think Mexico has something similar.

>>130362348
I just hate because I've been on both sides several times and no one thing in particular is going to make you fat, it's just calories in general.

>>130361908
>you'll still feel hungry after drinking a gallon of soda
You'll feel hungry after drinking a gallon of water as well. What is your point?

fat people logic

> I'm hungry so it must mean that I'm starving

> only sugar makes me fat, so I'll eat this whole bucket of lasagna and potatoes instead.

>>130362560

> I guarantee you're only going to find vegan skeletons.

this... the main reason you see fat people on vegan diets is because they don't tell you the meals they snuck in to their diet at 12 am going through the drive through.

98% of fatso people are fat for a reason, they lie to themselves, they lie to the people who put them on diets.

they have a mental disorder, they are addicted to food and shove it down their fat mouths as their self medication method.

>>130362560
Not my fault you dont understand simple human metabolism. You probably believe in free energy machines as well.
The reason you wont see fat vegans is because of the fiber. Ingesting this causes you to feel fuller and doesnt allow you to eat more. My point still stands though, if you eat excess vegetable calories you will gain weight. It is really simple. Even a simp like you should get it.

>>130362764
if your vegan diet is 98% extra oily fries then it won't matter how vegan it is

>>130362634

> Fat people are too stupid to drink fruit juice.

^ this

Most fat people I know live off of restaurants. They don't cook for themselves much at all.

They have no idea but the reason restaurant food taste so good is because it's loaded with everything that makes them fat and unhealthy, which are the ingredients to making an outstanding taste in food.

Heavy salts, heavy oils, heavy pure fats, heavy fucking everything.

>>130362967
>Not my fault you dont understand simple human metabolism. You probably believe in free energy machines as well.
imagine being so bad at math you think eating food doesnt cost calories.

brainlets, when will they learn

>>130362995

Vegans can still be fat if they eat shit tons of yeast filled foods.

It doesn't matter how many vegetables they eat, if they are pounding down bread sticks by the bucket full, that's all complex carbs their body will take a long time to break down.

>>130363085
Jesus dude, you seriously believe in the negative calorie myth dont you? Im sorry you dont realize it is a lie created so you click on websites and buy books. You will never spend more calories eating and digesting food than what you take in, there is no food like that.

>>130362967
fiber blocks absorption

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>>130356394
>Living in a state that is going bankrupt that they need to tax soda for revenue
lol

>>130362967
I remember simp being a reference to something.

What is it?

A scifi book I read recently but cant place.

>>130362716
Not until you piss it out at least.

Simple sugars actively make you hungrier.

>>130363327
It reduces absorption but it doesnt block it. It is practically nill

>>130363359

This is the truth tho.

Illinois had to close down the schools early because they didn't have the funding.

It's a democrat state tho... so you know that more than half the people in the state don't really work much but are paid a lot.

>>130363416
I dont know for sure, ive always just used it as slang for simpleton

>>130363269
>retard cant into thermodynamics
>eating food costs no calories
just admit you're wrong retard.

>>130363478
exactly
vegetables don't have many calories to begin with

>>130363648
Show me how im wrong. Show me negative calorie foods. If you can prove it to me, ill admit it. But ive researched it. The calories used in mastication and digestion will never exceed the calories absorbed. The only things are artificial sweetener enhanced foods and water. There are no naturally occuring negative calorie foods.

>>130356394
People don't know what else to drink so I think they will still pay for it.

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>>130356394
Not mad at all. Less soda is a good thing. Every once in a while it's nice, but there's people who will drink 4 litres of the shit a day.

Now I know there are some who will say "B-but muh freedumbz", and yes, I agree people should be able to do whatever the fuck floats their boat, but some soda costs less than water for fucks sake. I say tax it.

>>130356394
I'd prefer a more direct tax. For example, if you're a fatass then your health insurance gets taxed way more.

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>>130356545

this

>>130363888
Yes but if you eat 100 calories of fiber rich foods, and only 95 is absorbed, and you only burn off 50; your body will store the excess as fat. Thats my whole point.

>>130357777
>people who eat fewer calories are slimmer

Wow.

>>130363269
Actually it takes more energy to eat and digest some uncooked foods and dare I say foods with low to no nutritional value.
Ramen with a flavor packet is not actual food. It dehydrates you because of the high salt content and hardly has any nutrition in it.

It seems fairly simple to me. Even if some foods have energy content in it, if it's not readily absorbable you may pass it or spend more energy and work extracting it than you get out of it.

>>130361587
You're argument is based on the flawed assumption that both the government and the free market are equally efficient at redistributing money. This isn't the case. The government is less beholden to market forces than the general economy. The government can and does force money to flow in directions that the economy wouldn't normally allow. Because of this the impact of taxes and subsidies generally outweighs the impact of the markets response to those taxes and subsidies.

In other words the market response to the tax won't completely negate it's effect on fatties, and the market response to the subsidy won't completely negate it's effect on the farmers.

You need to think deeper. Don't look at things so superficially.

>>130364095
how many calories of vegtables can you fill your stomach with at a given time
>, and you only burn off 50; your body will store the excess as fat. Thats my whole point.
not really, there's something called glycogen stores

Nigga, you ain't breaking the grip of the high fructose jew.

>>130364187
Show me your sources.
Ramen noodles still have calories. Sure not nutrition, but neither does white rice and that shit will fatten you up. And yes undercooked foods will have negative calories but they also pose health risks.l, so why consume it. I can eat dried beans all day, but it wont make me full and it will destroy my gi tract. If we want to move the argument over to foods that are negative and detrimental, sure ill agree those are around but why bring them up?

>>130356394
What pisses me off is they do it on Diet Soda too, and I drink it every day. It's my only vice. Trust me my diet is better than yours

>>130358754
How about we just abolish all forms of subsidized healthcare?

Let them die poor and alone. No taxpayer dollars for your insulin, you fat fucks.

>>130364095
also fiber significantly slows the nutrients flowing into your system so it's not enough to spike your blood sugar and insulin

>>130364496
>white rice
>fatten you up
u wot m8

>>130364216
That middle bit was badly worded. Let me take another stab at it.

The market response to the tax won't completely negate the effect of the subsidy and the market response to the subsidy won't completely negate the effect of the tax. The market will resist and blunt the governments efforts but it won't entirely stop it.

>>130356394
Good, but they should just pay extra road tax for the extra fat percentage they have.

>>130364532

How's that cancer coming along anon? Those headaches treat you well?

>>130357259
Wrong flag.

>>130364402
And are vegetables stored as this? I dont know? I know it is the secondary storage, but i dont know what foods are more likely to be stored there.

>>130356394
>Wastes of time, resources, and brain cells
>Implies the following
>They would ever get it right
>They would allocate the revenue gained to the appropriate channels
>People will one day learn that government mandated common sense is bad

>>130364612
Yeah i get your point

>>130364809
sugar is the main calorie in a vegetable
glycogen (a type of sugar) is stored in your liver and muscles

>>130356394
>buy diet soda
>literally 0 calories or health risk
>UHH SORRY SWEETIE, YOU OWE THE STATE TWENTY CENTS
>overweight niggers who load up on 50 2L bottles of full-sugar faygo every weekly trip to the store and pay with food stamps see no difference

>>130364496
I am not a part of any argument about. You just posted false information which I corrected.

Now you just backpeddled from claiming:
>Jesus dude, you seriously believe in the negative calorie myth dont you?
>You will never spend more calories eating and digesting food than what you take in, there is no food like that.

To:
>And yes undercooked foods will have negative calories
>If we want to move the argument over to foods that are negative and detrimental, sure ill agree those are around but why bring them up

What are you doing contradicting yourself?

>>130365158
Ok, that makes sense. My bad

>>130365203
Fine. Yes i am wrong. Thank you for showing me examples of negative calorie foods. I did not consider those.

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>>130356394
Just like the Americans who think it'll make a difference. Retarded.

>>130356394

That's fine, I quit drinking sodas, diet or otherwise.

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>>130356394
it's an impingement on burger freedumbz... it'll be their gurnz next

I don't support additional taxes without a good reason.
Soda is addictive and unhealthy though.

Where would soda tax dollars go towards? Maybe if it was for building the wall I would be more welcome to the idea than just misappropriated funds with nothing to show.

>>130359519
Yea, that business would work. I know some (degenerate) Dominicans who drive down to NC every other week and smuggle cigarettes to NYC.

Dont get caught.

>>130356394
Good. This is the kind of meassure that comes from having the sense that a utopian healthcare system will save you smashed.

Fuck this and fuck "fat positivity".

>>130356394

Soda doesn't even magically make everyone fat. I drank a 12 pack of Dr. Pepper a day and I weigh 130. If I stopped drinking soda, my weight drops.

It depends on the persons metabolism and other dietary practices. But soda alone isn't causing people to be fat.

And fuck extra taxes in general. /pol/ is retarded saying this is a good thing because it doesn't like fatties. Taxing people you don't like just ends up with people taxing you because they don't like you. Taxing things doesn't make them go away either.

>>130368226
it doesn't mean you're healthy

>>130359214
>Pack of cigs where I live is $4.97
>Get a Carton for 39.99
wew

>>130357523

"the internet is a series of tubes"

>>130365531
>imblying

>>130357840

to be fair, fat bitch's shirt refers to finding pants to buy, which generally have the ass on the back

>>130356545
lol

>>130356394
The first time I ever heard of this was in a Judge Dredd comic.

>>130357221
Niggers in NYC still manage to scrape together like $14 for a pack of newports

>>130369948
They don't buy taxed cigarettes you idiot. They buy "loosies" (single cigarettes) from Jamal who said he found a carton that fell off a truck.

>>130370233
>>130369948
And most of the time they aren't even the real brand, but look-a-likes
>posting about a topic when he hasnt even experienced it
>kys

>>130357840

what is it about feminists anyway?

>extremely fat
>huge round/pear shaped head
>huge cat eye glasses
>the smell
>fish mouth

it has to be genetic; they all have the same mental illness that leads to irrational thinking

>>130357719

just drink natural spring water and eat home grown vegetables and fruit. preserve your precious bodily fluids

So what happens to the residents of a state that declares bankruptcy?

>>130358044
Sugar is absorbed more easily than vitamins. When you drink juice you kids out the good and keep the sugar.

>>130359138
what brand of water do you get?
over here you cant catch 24 packs at 1.99 for an alright brand. 12 pack of soda around 4 bucks. but ozarka packs can cost 4 bucks too

>>130356580
>acting like any of this money goes to where it's supposed to.

They closed down the fucking lottery.
How is this possible?
Lotterys are designed to make money.
It's literally infallible as long as you run an honest game.
They can't even pay out past winners now and are being sued.
Everything in this state gets skimmed.
Anything proposed to make money, loses money somehow.
Look at the traffic cameras down town.
Correct me if I'm wrong but They said they cost 50 million but would take in 100 million the first year.
They spent 100 million out of the fund before it was up and running and then they only takes in like 40 or so.
That's before they ruled against it and took them down.
Illinois is ran by corrupt fucks and filled with the thickest most ignorant morons you'll ever meet.
The only philosophy they know and hold dear is to kick the can down the road.
10% raise on property taxes just announced, added to the raises that were previously announced. The price of water doubled over 4 years.
Tolls doubled in the same time span.
Sugar tax to double drink prices.
Cigarettes are 14 bucks a pack.
Fucking plastic bag tax that goes started to the state to "curb pollution"
Even though it goes for paper bags too.
They say 100 and some odd people are leaving Illinois every day now.
More folks left last year than were born and came. They are saying ILL will be the first state to officially declare bankruptcy.
Fuck this state
And especially cook co.

>>130360724
Wrong. Im 140lbs 5'11 and sit allllll day.

Philthydelphia has this tax, plus an extra 2 bucks per pack of cigs and 2 cents above state tax on goods, take a look at that shithole and decide if it helps anyone but the people who think up this shit to give themselves raises.

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>>130356394
>How does /pol/ feel about the fatty tax?
Well, to be honest with you, im feeling pretty damn good.

Rockford anon here. Meanwhile they are dragging their asses on the free money that is weed legalization.

>>130356394
Holy fuck are these bottles or multiple liter cannisters?

>>130361037

He literally said calories in calories out you dipshit, you are just reaffirming what he said. If you burn 3k calories, you eat 3k calories, no weight gained, durrrrr.

You can not exercise and still be thin, you just eat less, your body can't magically make fucking energy out of the sun, you still have a resting metabolism no matter what to survive even if you are just laying in bed all day.

>>130360859
not all calories are equal

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>>130356394
Hey half a billion, easy money! I'm sure there will be no unintended consequences.

>Taxing more than absolutely necessary
My boy Calvin Coolidge would have something to say about this. If the government wants more spending money then maybe it should actually draw up a budget and figure out how much it needs. Then it can kindly stop spending so much fucking money.

I havent heard anything recently about this country.

>>130359214
That's why I learned to roll my own. Costs a fuckload less.

It's retarded. Fat people will always be fat, soda has nothing to do with it.

A 12oz soda only has about 150 calories in it. I drink soda regularly and only weigh about 130lbs. It doesn't make you fat by itself.

We need something more radical to curb obesity. Not sure what, though.

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>>130373158
The horrid spacing, the color of the shelves, the walls, and the spic in the middle suggest that it is a "bodega". A Mexican run ministore. They import 3 litter bottles from Mexico. Very popular there.

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Lol all these butthurt soda slurpers getting mad that soda isn't going to be cheaper than water anymore.

Now if only we could tax high fructose corn syrup too...

Fucking retards itt arguing wether soda tax fights obesity completely ignoring the big story of Illinois going bankrupt.

>>130359313

>eats pigeons
>eats rats

what's visible is 10/10 compared to hamplanet western women

>>130371523
I'm guessing you're in your twenties. I call my gut my 30th birthday present. Changed my diet and I'm keeping it under control, though.

>>130359389

>100lbs is the ideal weight for a grown man.

Ching Chong is right, if that 'man' is a 4' tall trap

>>130360830
If someone sat in one spot all day and only got up to go to the toilet and kept eating only broccoli they'd get fat

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>>130356394
>only taxing soda
>not taxing all sugar
amerifats gonna amerifat

>>130356394
I'm not a fatty, so I really don't care.
Also, this is one of the few taxes where you actually have a choice.
Our national water tax is a fucking sneak thief scam though. I pay for water, I pay for maintenance on that water. The fact that i have to pay a tax and now because of California i have to pay another new tax (storm drain tax) is bullshit.

don't care. haven't really consumed the stuff since I was a kid

>>130378632
They'd look like shit but they wouldn't get American-grade fat.

>>130356394
Do it. Do it federally. Soda is a luxury item, it is not a necessity and it has no real nutritional value.

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>>130364216
>>130364699
If you impose a tax, and then a subsidy in the same market of equal size, the net effect will be the same as competitive equilibrium.
The only argument that is economically valid is that technically the market for corn and the market for corn syrup beverages are different markets (albeit similar). However that is a very pedantic approach and omits the general idea.
See pic related for an understanding of the supply and demand.
To say "hurr durr the government is above the market" is extremely foolish because the economics of taxation fundamentally has already accounted for the power of the government.
All I see here is hand waving. No actual economics.

>>130356394
Good, I fucking hate soda

>>130361960
I can usually get a carton of them for $60 at Thorntons in cook county

>>130356394
I'm all for Illinois doing that. I live in a neighboring state. They can come here to get their soda.

>>130356394
>grape soda right up front
They're trying to start a chimpout with this image?

>>130358499
It's not necessarily that the tax isn't applied correctly. It's more that the government sees any increase in income as a reason to increase spending even if already in the red.

>he doesnt drink exclusively water
Please tell me you retards don't drink the sugar jew

Good, I've been drinking water since I'm a kid, fuck soda and fuck the fatties, our bodies are machines that need to be well maintained.

>>130384654
sometimes i drink apple juice when i want to treat myself

>>130356882

>be me
>go to hundreds of stores in my lifetime
>plenty of 0.99 sodas
>$1.25 Dasani

whatever you say

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>>130356545
>people stop buying soda
>americans stop buying soda

>>130361335
>lemon
lemon water is bad for your teeth in large amounts.

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>>130356394
Why not just tax fat people for being fat instead of taxing something that anyone can get? People that want soda now have to pay more because of Fat people.

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>>130356394
>drinking literally anything but pic related

>>130359816
Fuck off ancancer, tree pill will kill all of you niggers.

Just put up their health insurance premiums. Wtf

>>130356394
Well, it looks like southern Wisconsin will see an increase in revenue at their grocery stores, at least from those who buy soda regularly.

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>>130358044
>loose

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>>130358499
Taxation is theft, thats why so many of us evade them

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>Drinking 'pop when you could be sipping
fucking degenerates