Pedophilia starts being pushed by the MSM

>>130349163
Bumping

>>130349163
Awesome

Yeah the BBC should know lmao

Why wouldn't you want to help them? Gays, trannies, pedos, these sorts of people need help so we can figure out how to cure their diseases. Most of them are messed up because of some childhood trauma in the first place, they're victims too to begin with

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>>130349163
>Implying help and condemnation are mutually exclusive

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>>130350468
>>130350366
>>130350202

JIDF in full force tonight....

But Archangel Lucifer basically made the liberal agenda (if it feels good it cant be wrong) just to make them all burn in hell. Be very aware of this heavenly angels bait......little apples are the sweetest.

>>130350468
Help<euthanasia

Pedophiles should be executed.

Any sex offense involving someone underage should be a capitol offense.

Sex offenders will continue to reoffend, There is no curing it...The only sure thing that works is a bullet in the head.

>>130350468
This.
A lot of people don't really understand the difference between getting aroused at watching something happen, and actually doing it.

I am willing to bet 95% of people would never participate in whatever porn turns them on. They simply watch it because it is forbidden fruit and it feel dangerous to do so.

Obviously not defending people who have acted on their disorder, but some dude shouldn't get thrown in prison, raped for 10 years, and exiled from society because he watched a video or looked at some pictures online of some fucked up shit.

>pedophilia being pushed
>polygamy is still completely ignored by "marriage equality" cunts probably because only Mormons consider it and Mormons are ebil whites.

>>130349163
Who didn't see this coming? For homosexuality, it was about two consenting adults. For pedophilia, they will attempt to humanize the beast into a caring guardian whose love is returned by the child. If they don't have problems with kids declaring themselves trans, why would they have a problem with "true love"?

>>130350971
Won't accomplish anything. That's treating the symptoms but not the cause.

>>130349163
Bump

>>130349163
Next you will see a children's rights movement gaining popularity so that pedos can legally fuck children that consent. Watch out for it

>>130349163
t. Mohammad, peace be upon him.

>>130350366
Agreed. They didn't ask to be born this way. They need understanding, not hate.

>>130351413
Let me guess the government has to do something to fix it like put our kids in pedophile free camps and then show them how to get butt fucked without it being rape.

the only thing those kinds of articles will achieve is leave good men quadraspazzed on a life glug

>>130350468
>Most of them are messed up because of some childhood trauma

Yes, trauma caused by being molested/raped by other homosexuals who were violated as children themselves, normalization of this deviancy only facilitates this self-repeating cycle.... the only solution is to execute all homosexuals until this defective genetic trait is completely wiped out.

>>130349163
Homosexuality is the first set of a nation falling.

>>130350468
There is no way to fix them except with a bullet. That CNN kike, (((Zucker)))? He's crying about the legacy media being threatened by non-leftist scumbags. Well, this is why. The MSM pushing pedo horseshit is their way of begging for death.
When the time comes the (((media))) must be burned for electricity.

>>130351342
/thread

>>130351879
They were not born that way. They got corrupted. Just like gays and trans people. Its all a mental thing. I agree though that we need to understand the mind enough to learn ways to reverse these sicknesses. But dont ever buy into the saying "they were born like this", It is false and dangerous.

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>>130349163
To justify their position, fags state that:
>Homosexuality has existed in historic times
>It answers to biological impulses
>The reason it has been shunned is purely cultural/sociological
>It shouldn't matter to anyone what one does with his/her body

Doesn't this apply to paedophilia too? Since ancient times pre-pubecent kids have been involved in relationships (just look at the middle ages, where kids were used as currency by the reigning families to secure alliances, and in Rome/Greece, kids that were being trained in the military began relationships with their tutors to strengthen the bond); boys and girls, as young as 12 years old, are biologically fit to reproduce, it is not as if, when one turns 18, a fairy appears and grants you both psychic and biological maturity; related to point 1, in the 18th century girls as young as 16 regularly married people (my great grandmother, at the turn of the 20th century, married at that age) and; if a teenager is mature enough, why does it really matter at what age he begins being sexually active? When I was in college, an acquaintance -not a friend, keep this in mind- proudly blurted to me that she lost her virginity when she was 14. She's not alone, and that nowadays is seen as a badge of honuor in most teenagers. Why the double standard?

If paedophiles play it as the gay community did, they can follow the same path the fags laid to achieve the legality of their statute.

>>130349163
Bump

>>130349163
>Remember when people claimed that pedophilia would be positions as misunderstood and natural after the fags?

I remember

good. We need to take save children before they succumb to degeneracy

>>130351160
>>polygamy is still completely ignored
don't worry anon that's next so mohummud can marry a goat and three year old girl

somebody has a screencap of the illuminati poster who said at the start of the year that more pedo stuff will be funded by ((( them )))?

>>130349163

Pedophilia is mental disorder and should be treated to prevent child molestation, which involves potential child molesters being able to be honest about their condition with healthcare professionals.

Oh please. Are you telling me when you were in sixth grade you didn't want to fuck a teacher? An older lady? Before you turned teenager did you not look at older women and think "Wow I'd love to woo that and take her to fucksville?"

Grooming and rape are crimes, inviting childish exploration of their sexuality should not be.

>>130352512

Except a homosexual relationship is between consenting adults. Pedophilia involves children who can not give consent. 2000 years ago children didnt have rights. Today children are the most privileged group.

>>130354009
>PROTIP: 90%+ of convicted pedophiles are also homosexuals

I'm sure it's all just a freak coincidence though right guy?

>>130350403
Noice

>>130350971
This

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>>130349163
These kek faggots are just as bad

>>130354009
You really think children have no ability to think for themselves?!

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>>130349163
This is the only help pedos need

The elite are pushing this because they know we are hot on their heels with pizzagate, they need to legalize this before their crimes against humanity come to light!

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>>130351742
Phase One BongBro........
Fuck jewtube

>>130351342
.......this to the word

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>>130355479

yes, they would indeed need weapons to kill the families attempting to scapegoat them

>>130350468
neck yourself faggot
>>130351152
people dont get thrown in prison for "just watching one video of some fucked up shit"
most pedos have hundreds if not thousands of videos/pics or whatever of pedo shit. are you really this retarded?

>>130349163
Remember, the slippery slope isn't real, goy. You're just paranoid.

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>>130351879
>born this way
okay faggot you're shilling pretty hard right now.

>>130349163
/pol/ would rather have non offending pedos not seek medical help out of fear of being reported and turning into child molesters than support some kind of solution that helps kids long term.

No, euthenasia is not the solution you dumb fucks; what kind of pedo would out themselves if the death penalty was the result?

>>130357295
>(((help)))
good try pedo faggot

>>130355176
Funny how literally no children ever support pedos. Just adults, who want to fuck kids.

>>130349163
JIMMY SAVILE BBC JEWS

>>130357295
>Canada would rather pedos fuck kids, then turn themselves in are "reformed" then released back into the wild to fuck more kids, creating more filthy monsters rather than just removing the dead flesh to begin with

>>130357295
you can seek therapy idiot, you can't get arrested unless you disclose that you have actually committed a crime. therapists can't report you unless they know you have actually done something. otherwise you can sue the shit out of them, dumbfuck. leafs are a literal cancer

>>130349163
>https://twitter.com/bbcthree/status/876115654834892803
this is fucking pathetic. Do we honestly believe rehabilitating pedophiles is important to society?

Throw them in the fucking trash like trannies, murderers, and rapists.

>>130357430
How would you know? What if kids like the idea of teasing adults hmm?

>>130349163
Anyone who exploits children should be hung from a lamp post.

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>>130349163
nothing i hate more than the BBC

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>>130349163
>Everything will go back to normal after Trump gets elected they said

>>130352512
>Doesn't this apply to paedophilia too?
That's exactly what people have been saying for decades. And the answer is always "muh slippery slope"

>>130358498
>>130358498
Donald please

>>130356196
>Moana and Boss Baby Funny Love Story Princess Dress Disguise Make Up Finger
This is why WE IZ AUTISTIC N SHIT

>>130350468
most of (((them)))

>>130356196
Lol you're one of those faggots who pretend to be girls online???

>>130355500
this. they want to make escape path in case they get caught with didling kiddies.

The only thing pedophiles need is a bullet to the skull.

>>130359212
rev up those ovens boys

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It's slowly moving from radical to acceptable. I honestly cannot believe that the West is degenerating at such a high pace.

>>130351742
but what if the child actually does consent?

>>130358763
is that some kind of code word?

>>130351342
This

>>130359562
There is nothing to do but keep yourself sane and hope that when the end comes it will be quick.

>>130359062
WE WUZ PRETENDINN N SHIEEET

>>130359562
I just realized that old people don't become more conservative with age, their politics simply become more conservative as the overton window shifts leftward

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I hope Trump gasses these monsters.

I hope he drops the fucking hammer and we get to see all these famous people be implicated.

LGBT priorities for normalization:
1. homosexuality (complete)
2. transsexuality (in progress)
3. polyamory
4. pedophilia

>>130360068
spoken like a true coward

>>130349163
Obviously they need help, they're mentally damaged. Does not mean we should accept them as normal. It's like being schizophrenic or autistic or something. But It's clearly worse than that.

But pedophilia, schizophrenia, and autism. Isn't that classic 4chan?

>>130356617
>"kill the families"
You guys really hate families, don't you?
The legal age of consent is there for good reason, so stop scapegoating it in favor of your disgusting impulses.

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>>130358498
>>Everything will go back to normal after Trump gets elected they said
>they said
Nobody said this, anon. Did you actually expect batrachian chaos to result in normalcy?

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>>130356617

Like niggers and mudslimes, the only good pedo is a dead pedo.

>>130349163
If someone sexually abused my son, I would likely be sentenced to death by judge and jury. Pedophilia can never be allowed as acceptable

>>130360842
>being a pedophile is the same as being a schizo or being autistic or something derp derp
being a schizo or autistic doesn't automatically make you a threat to people around you. sexually abusing children is really bad, this is why our ancestors never ever put up with that kind of shit, EVER.

>but.. but.. my fee fees

>>130356934
>people dont get thrown in prison for "just watching one video of some fucked up shit"
Uh, yes they do.
All the time. People don't care because the nature of their "crime" is taboo.

Most pedos (by that I mean people who are turned on by cp, not real sex offenders) never save the shit on their computer because they are too scared to risk their life to more easily access it.

I am pretty sure you have no idea what you are talking about.

>>130349163
The cure is swift beatings! I too, understand.

>>130349163
Bump

>>130350468
They aren't asking to be cured, they are asking for "help". Ask yourself why they aren't asking to be cured and you will begin to understand what (((their))) agenda is.

>>130360628
Then they'll be for transpecism and beastiality, if they succeed in normalizing pedophilia, all in the name of tolerance.

>>130359852
Most likely to hit as many search results as possible for young children whose parents who let the Ipad be the nanny.

>>130350468
>t. pedo

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>>130349163
Ah, it was Anglos all along. Once more those anglo scum spread degeneracy.

>>130362813
Then those people need to be helped to the gas chambers or get the pede shocked out of them. We're not supposed to be animals anymore.

>>130349163
Bump

>>130349163
Pedophiles should be executed

>>130362813
>Uh, yes they do. All the time.
Got any examples, or are you just talking out your ass?
>I mean like, it probably happens though, right?

>I'm pretty sure
I'm pretty sure you have no idea what YOU are talking about, unless you're a actually a pedo

I think less of pedophiles than I think of Islamic terrorists. There is no lower form of human, than one who preys on children.

>>130350468
>Most of them are messed up because of some childhood trauma in the first place

Easy solution
>Kill pedos
>They don't rape kids
>Kids don't become pedos
>Problem solved

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>>130350468

We already know how to help them.

Absolutely fucking disgusting.

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>>130349163
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>>130349163
trump will finally be able to get the help he needs

>>130351011
You are confused, a pedophile is someone with a sick attraction to kids, not all pedophiles have acted on their desire

>>130349163
As a libertarian, I hate roads and love pedophilia

>>130358040
Even if the child consents I'm pretty sure that most parents don't like the idea of some middle aged man seeing there child as a sexual being

>>130349163
is this a troll?
this has to be a troll

>>130349163
just make loli sexbots and the problem will solve itself

We should help pedophiles. Help them right over a bridge or off of a tall cliff.

>>130355479
the only solution to pedos is the final solution

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>>130349163
I fucking knew it
I fucking knew leftists will try to apply victim complex to fucking pedos and try to normalize it.
Fucking hate leftists

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>>130369934

>>130351742
>children's rights movement
Please no. Imagine how they would vote with the influence from school teachers.

>>130357295
of course the fucking leaf wants pedephillia normalized

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How long before leftits start calling anti-pedophilia racism?

>>130359212
guys get those ovens running and start accepting refugees

>>130359738
then go balls deep ofc

>>130349163
They're not saying it's OK to diddle kids and you know that full well.

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>>130370216
>It's not okay to have sex with men, but gays are born this way! They shouldn't be condemned!

>>130349163
Good let them self identify whilst the list is being made, makes the day of the rope much easier.

>>130370051
Okay kids, we're going on a field trip to the voting booth today. Now remember to fill in the circle for Lefty McCuck like we practiced in class. Once you're done I'll review your ballots to make sure there are no mistakes and then we will deposit them in the ballot box.

>>130353052
bump
i'm curious to see this

>>130350468
All the help they need is lead projectiles into frontal lobe, period.

>>130370308
Why should I care about gays fucking each other's asses? I don't pretend to be Christian like most of /pol/ does.

>>130369934
We tried to warn you when faggotry was getting pushed. But nobody listened.

You all just went along with gay rights and mocked those who warned you against it. You called us backwards bible thumpers and told us to keep our bigoted views out of government.

"IT'S TWO CONSENTING ADULTS BRO"
"YOU MUST BE SECRETLY GAY BRO"
"DON'T LIKE GAY MARRIAGE DON'T HAVE ONE BRO"
"FAIRY TALE SKY DAD CHRISTKEK AMIRITE BRO"

This is the future you chose. It was always the next step even if you pro-gay lolbertarians are just now realizing it.

>>130370485
are you implying that the courier fucks kids?

>>130370550
Would you use that same argument for pedos?

And I think you missed my point.

>>130349163
>help

What you subsidize you get more of. The only solution for pedos is "a millstone around the neck, and cast into the sea".

>>130349163
s-slippery slope i-isn't real goys

>>130349163
We need to make a list/infographic/meme thing of all the big name sites that have pro pedo shit

to show that the right was right about the slippery slope

>>130370793
but cheese pizza on the darkweb is

>>130350549
What was in the deleted post?

>>130370667
Why would I? Kids consent is irrelevant, just like their opinion on politics (hence why they can't vote). They're fucking dumb, so asking them a question isn't enough. Fags are adult.

if you watch cp you help enable the industry of child abuse/trafficking to continue
if you see a 13 year old with makeup and tight clothing, or good genes, its natural to be attracted (not necessarily sexual)
But if you fantasize about hurting kids in any way you are a danger to society.

>>130349163
This will be my final straw, if legislation gets passed or this becomes socially acceptable but still against the law, then it's time to go full fash 1488 in real life.

>>130370835
This this this anyone pro pedo any article written all of it and archive it.

There's a difference between pedophilia and child rapists. Yes I heard. There is also a difference between a rock and a hard place. Why don't you just give the pedos an outlet for their bizarre fetish or whatever. How about make nudity pics legal again or give them limp dick pills. Something so they can fuck off and not bother anybody.

You better do something about this /pol/

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If you're a fucking pedo, just bottle it up and go through life without abusing children or enabling CP.

Congrats. It's called self-control.

>>130370975
Chemical castration was a thing and needs to return imo.

>>130349163
>you should give people who are attracted to children the therapy they need before they sexually molest a child
>WHAT RTHE FUCJK??!!? YOU WANT TO STOP CHILDREN BEING MOLESTED???!? THAT MWEANS YOU WANT CHILDREN TO BE MOLESTED>>!>!!?!?

just as bad as SJWs who pretend the oscars are racist just to get outraged (you may now post the undercover sjw comic)

>>130351011
Eh I agree mostly
The only ones I think are bs is when a 18 year old senior in hs bangs his 17 senior gf and is thrown in prison
I like Texas where it's a 3 year difference just for that.
19 year old can bang a 16 year old
17 is legal age of consent in Texas btw
20 can bang a 17 year old(legal adult anyway)

But ya If it's some 40 year old dude fucking a 6 year old then he needs a bullet in the head

someone got a picture of the steps? homos, animals, kids, necro, ???

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>>130349163
No.
https://youtu.be/detM0cKxWro

>>130351342
I've been watching and dreading this as it's progressed, it's only going to get worse unless people finally clamp down on these sick fucks

>>130370928
You sound like one of those pakis who thinks raping little boys isn't gay.
I've got bad news m8.

>>130370991
working on it >>130312368

>>130370895
30 years in prison

>>130369004
This guy. This guy right here.

Good lad.

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>>130350468

I've always said this. The fear of becoming a social pariah or imprisoned needs to be removed so people WHO HAVE NOT YET TOUCHED A CHILD (I wrote this in caps so /pol/ocks wouldn't fly into autistic rage) can come forward to help BEFORE THEY HURT A CHILD.

It's the most pragmatic solution. Society has already made them the lowest of the low. There is no worse crime than sexually abusing a child.

Yet they still do it.

So if fear and punishment aren't working, and you actually care about kids and don't want them to get raped by these people, then yes, you should want to help them. If that concept is impossible to you, think of it as helping future children not get raped, which is exactly what you'd be doing by helping pedophiles get treatment.

>what are you talking about, there is no pedophilia cult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96d7YcxGouM

>>130360628
Honestly they may get polyamory normalized in certain communities
Ie muzzies and mormans
But you will never get pedophilia normalized (in the West at least)
Mohammed may swallow the gay rights things just for the right to bang his 5 year old sex slaves

>>130368789
Then those that act on it get shot.

>>130350468
Yeah you should know

The argument is that kids can't consent. Then kids shouldn't go to school since they can't consent. They shouldn't do anything because the state says they have no right to do what they want with their own bodies. But you can force them to be indoctrinated into religion.

>>130357295
Everybody has a choice in everything they do.
I couldn't care less about the mental health of pedophiles. If theyve devided to gawk at kids as sexual objects, theyve chosen their path. Ive known a lot of people who were sexually abused as a kid who didnt abuse as an adult. Not hard, you just cant be a spineless rat is all.
If anything this would turn into a legal pedo clubhouse used to network.
If pedos think they need help, theyre are plenty of resources online.
How about they act like humans and not fuck kids?

>>130371357
Making pedos into victims enables their sick behavior.
Scum who abuse kids obviously have no self-control to begin with, for reasons you stated. They're the same weak people who will exploit all the 'help' you give them.

Giving treatment to fags doesn't work, what makes you think it will work on pedos? Fuck off.

>>130349163
I like Anonymous5's mantra. "Pedos should be deados"

>>130350468
>Why wouldn't you want to help them?
Because according to gays, sexuality is the way they were born and efforts to change it are not successful.

>>130371604
The argument is that people who absuse kids are maggots in the shit of society.

>>130351152
What kind of fucked up porn are you guys watching? I would totally participate in my fantasy when the opportunity presented itself; my fantasy is to plow busty blondes and fill them with kids. Best part is I can do that in reality.

Go somewhere else Jew shill.

>>130371792
thats the truth

>>130359738
According to law they can't because they are too young.

>>130371604
Kids dont understand sexuality, and if they do there is something wrong.

They cant consent to sex because they dont understand what they are doing and how it will affect them.
That would be so unfair to kids if we didnt properly guide and protect them.

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>>130349163
BBC YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>130369076
>there

>>130371888
kids are at that age where they try shit without thinking ahead

>>130349163
But first it was pushed by alt-cuck "free speech" faggot Milo Redditopulous.

>>130349163
>three BBC

>it's nothing

fucking bait, remove pedopushers from premise!

There is literally nothing wrong with rubbing your penis in between a little girls thighs.

>>130349163
>BBC Three
The UK deserves to be nuked

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>>130372104

>>130371822
my porn involves females only because i dont want to see some dudes dick all the time. its hard to have some women only sex when you are a dude so i actually wouldnt be participating, but only because it wouldnt be my kind of pornfantasy anymore

Doesn't Germany have those centers that help them to wean off Pedophilia and shit like that? How effective are they? Cause if they are it wouldn't hurt to have a couple more of those kinds of places, especially if they work.

>>130372228
>my porn involves females only because i dont want to see some dudes dick all the time.

wew, i hope some anon posts THAT image

>>130372036
Fuck Milo, he's not even alt right

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>>130371726

>Giving treatment to fags doesn't work, what makes you think it will work on pedos?

Because I don't care about two grown men fucking each other consensually. You shouldn't care, either. Maybe I'm disgusted by the thought of you fucking that fat pig you call a wife. Should I enact laws to make you stop?

I do care, however, a great deal about an adult fucking a child against its will.

And if we can't study these people, we'll never know what makes them the way they are. To study them, we have to make it safe for them to come in to be studied.

You're a fucking dipshit for thinking the current approach works - it clearly doesn't.

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>>130349163
>that illsutration

PLEASE don't tell me we're letting people self-identify as children now. I already feel like I'm living in a parody of real life.

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>>130370571

>the slippery slope fallacy they said

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>>130372104

I don't want to see anybody hurt. The fear is that if you are attracted to young girls then that makes you guilty. Thought crimes basically. The other issue is that if they have fantasies they are likely a threat to real people. If this were true then porn would also make people rapists and violent movies would make people murderers. My problem isn't the fantasy its the fear that they will act on rape or abduction which would be awful. The word pedophilia conjures up images of people stalking kids or preying on them.

>>130372331
>>Giving treatment to fags doesn't work, what makes you think it will work on pedos?
>Because I don't care about two grown men fucking each other consensually.
Whether or not you care about something is how you decide whether or not the treatment works? Are you literally retarded?

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>>130350468
>>130357295
reported to the fbi

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>>130349163
A war is coming. A day will come when were we will have to fight crazy leftists on the street. Fuck these Mentally ill fucks.

>>130372331
What the fuck are you on about?
Even before it was accepted, trying to convert faggots didn't work. You can't change these people. But you can send them to prison knowing they won't come out alive.

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>>130349163
killing them is cheaper and easier. I'll never understand this mind-frame that the jews push

>>130349163
Return the favor to whom started this degeneracy http://m.jpost.com/#/app/article/497141

>>130372302
am i missing a meme or something? what image?

>LIbs Legalizing Pedophilia
If you didn't see this coming, you are a blind fool.

if pedophilia is normalised there will be pimps with like 10 kids

Remind me again while pedophilia is bad? I accidentally slipped out of my original timeline into this anti-pedo /pol/

>>130349163

>trying to portay the pedophile as the innocent child victim

My god, we are living in the end times..

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>>130372331
>>130354009
>Consent
>Consent
>Consent
>Consent

You're all blind fools if you think the people pushing the Oppression Games give a rat's ass about logic or a pre-existing moral justification. It doesn't matter if you as a progressive decide to draw the line at the magic word "Consent", because somewhere down the line some other liberal, to show they are more progressive then thou, will declare that young teens or children can in fact consent. They will manufacture, as they are manufacturing, studies proving the things they want to prove, and disproving the things they want to disprove, and through emotion, through propaganda, through the media, and through the same herd-shame tactics they use to push every single Leftist position they will push this too and you're a damn fool if you think a quasi-logical argument like "Consent is the basis of all sexual morality" will hold them back for long.

It wasn't a chain of reasoning that convinced the masses that homosexuality and feminism were acceptable, it was propaganda, every day, every hour, in every outlet for decades until at the last we awoke in a world where you can have your children taken from you if you don't consent to letting them cut off their genitals.

Blind fools, all of you, for thinking a magic word, a spell, that incantation called "Consent" will hold back the largely irrational movement of the Progressives to keep "progressing".

Every day on /pol/ you can find Liberals who feel "left behind" or "betrayed", because they were quite content to be progressive in the 80s or 90s, but now are agast at the progress of the 00s and 10s.

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>>130372588
>look we need to help them!
>accept [X] so we can change them!
>OOPS THEY DIDN'T CHANGE TOO BAD GOYS
Everything from muslim integration to pedos.

>>130372710
screencap of psychiatrist anon going over how porn changes you, and turns you into a tranny

starts with lesbian porn

>>130349163
>Let potential pedophiles go to a clinic to get help, but also keep them in a list and a DNA database (not open to the public, only to authorities)
>Cut the balls off of those who surrender to their perversions
See how easy that was?

>>130372814
Something about consent.

>>130357430
Have you heard of teen models? Parents always consent and the kids look like they are having fun. NI even read a girl said it was a fun experience and did no harm. Raping someone on the other hand is fucked up.

>>130372879
wew. but how? i assume normal porn turns you into a cuck though, getting arroused by seeing some other dude fucking a chick.
also its not necessarily lesbian, masturbation is okay too. just nothing with dudes

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>>130350468
But don't most of them go on and on about how it's not harmful to the children and it's like a totally loving thing that's really healthy for the kids and actually beneficial to their development.

So when they do it it's a benevolent and totally harmless act but when it happened to them it was a devastating and permanently scarring experience? How does they even justify this level of bullshit?

They spread exponentially since they're unlikely to fuck up only one kid in the span of their life so if we just kill them for the first conviction we can at least keep the number of these poor tortured souls in check.

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>>130373045
Here anon, I found it

Enjoy your porn-pill

>>130371240
So, what? CP?

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>>130371357
Society made them the lowest of the low? No, they are predators who made themselves the lowest of the low by allowing themselves to be this way.
Help us or we might rape your kids! Um no, as an adult you should have developed some self control and discipline.
Btw are you aware that most of the pro pedo media is pushed by untouchable politicians, celebs, elite, rich to appropriate this degeneracy?
Brainwashing normies into thinking they are mentally ill (like the gay agenda/feminist agenda/white guilt/genocide agenda) when its pretty natural to be attracted to a 15 y/o modeltier girl. This will only distract from the real predators.

Fuck off, pedo sympathizer.

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>>130358610
I never understood the "muh slippery slope" argument. It's kinda myopic.

To normalize pedophilia, a necessary condition is to have normalized homophilia first. Not strictly logical, but socially. It's a valid argument.

They need help AND they need to be condemned.
Its not an A or B thing.

>>130370362
I'd slap the head of that teacher CLEAN OFF

>>130371822
Mine involve Piss, femdom and SPH. I participate in those frequently.

>>130357295
> No, euthenasia is not the solution blah blah blah
Well it would help longterm. How is that not an actual solution?

>>130349163
They manufactured the problem, they should know...

The cause of it needs to be investigated.

>Kids can't consent meme
Why can they consent to discipline? Yelling at kids can cause trauma, and just being distant can. These aren't illegal. The idea that they can't consent to sex is based on sex being automatically harmful for them, but this is false. Look up Rind et al which shows most relationships weren't harmful. Sex isn't traumatic. In fact, much of the trauma is invented by psychotherapists and society being brainwashed by feminists. If the sexual contact was mutual, people freaking out and telling the kid it has to be bad cause negative outcomes. I'm not talking about actual abuse.

Henry, J. (1997). "System intervention trauma to child sexual abuse victims following disclosure," Journal of Interpersonal Violence, 12(4), 499-512.
>Results indicated that higher trauma scores, as measured by the Trauma Symptom Checklist, were related to an increased number of interviews, even when other aspects of the abuse such as seriousness were controlled for.

Plummer, Ken (1981). "The Paedophile's Progress: A View from Below," in Brian Taylor (ed.), Perspectives on Paedophilia, p. 227. London: Batsford.
>Studies point to the experience being without trauma and frequently mutually pleasurable ... unless, and this is an important proviso, it is 'discovered' by the family or the community. When this happens, it appears that the child can become shocked by the engulfing anger and outrage of the adult.

Berliner, L., & Conte, J. R. (1995). "The effects of disclosure and intervention on sexually abused children," Child Abuse and Neglect, 19(3), 371-384.
>Having contact with a greater number of professionals following disclosure was related to greater negative impact of the abuse.

You should change your position if evidence and reason conflict with it, otherwise you are brainwashed.

>>130373736
>Yelling at kids can cause trauma
Snowflake detected

/pol/ advocating murder of the mentally ill
advocating murder of niggers and jews
Nice logic there fags.

>>130351152
kys

>>130373736
>Sex isn't traumatic
You've never met a kid that got fucked by an adult. It fucks them up for life.

>>130373839
Non argument detected

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>>130351742
we're just following a slowed down application of the same shit that they tried at the start in soviet union
womens lib? check
homosexuality and free love? check
pedophilia and childrens lib? next up

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>>130349163

>>130350468
yes, (((they))) will help the same way the helped trannies, enabling them.
>Are you a pedo? Here some children for you to fuck, you are cured!
>Wait, you don't agree with our ways handling pedophiles?
>WOW LOOK AT HIM A PEDOPHOBE.

>castration is the only cure for child molesters.

>>130373920
Your assertion is so stupid that it doesnt merit an argument. Comparing yelling at kids to raping them? Fuck you.

Take your pedoohilia and jump off a cliff with it

>>130373912
>Anecdotal evidence
See Rind et al. and Ulrich et al. Vast majority don't report harm. I have also plenty of anecdotal evidence if you want. Look up the poet Ginsberg, his "victims" weren't harmed and remained friends with him for life. Look up "For A Lost Soldier" which is a romance written by a "victim". Actual victims of abuse are harmed, not people who enjoyed a mutual relationship and weren't brainwashed by therapists and authority figures.

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>>130357295
>if serious
You really need to understand shame and the role it has in social interaction.

>if not
kek

>>130349163
>pedophilia needs help
Yeah tell that to the dad whose daughter was kidnapped, raped and buried in a hole in the forest.
Ask him about understanding.
I know pedophilia is an illness and most pedophiles are either victims of other pedophiles or suffered severe trauma, but that doesn't change the pain and the suffering that have or could inflict to others.
You can't live in a world of ideals and virtues, sometimes you have to make a choice and condemn even people who are also just victims for the greater good.

>>130374119
Where did I compare rape to yelling at kids? At least make a modicum of sense. Commonly yelling at kids is often classified as a form of abuse if its aggressive, and can cause trauma in sensitive children. Meanwhile, non-abusive sexual relations don't often cause trauma, probably because they are based in pleasure. Read "The Trauma Myth."

This is literally the right's fee-fees topic. It's actually hilarious watching people who call the left's arguments emotion-based frothing at the mouth when talking about this.

>>130370051
>>130370051

if you don't respect your kid's gender identity in Canada they will take them away

>>130372437
Self control is all that is needed. I agree, we shouldn't police thoughts. But social acceptance is a whole different beast.

A necessary condition to allow pedophilia is to sympathize with the pedophiles.

>>130373736
My parents yelled and were distant at times but they were there for me when I NEEDED them. Just because they didnt have the energy to devote all their attention to me and refrain from yelling after a long work day when I was being bratty does not make sex with a kid ok.
There is evidence of physical and psychological damage when a kid is exposed to sex. Your innocence is STOLEN from you. You may never have kids, you may commit suicide from depression, etc.

Has anyone ever been proud of being raped as a child?
Stop trying to change laws that are in place to protect the most vulnerable members of society, you lower than dirt excuse of life.

>>130353753
They should be killed on sight with extreme prejudice. If you disagree with this statement, you should be killed on sight with extreme prejudice. Simple.

>>130374514
If this isn't your "fee-fee" topic you should probably be skinned alive and fed into a meat grinder.

>>130352051
This

Although I think deportation to a geographically isolated site would do instead of execution. Like the falkands.

>>130374446
Sometimes you have to oversee disgust and anger for the greater good. Understanding is the key to solving it, and if we can understand pedos we can understand others like gays and trans. We would understand the workings of the human brain a lot better. We could come up with the right kind of cure\therapy technique to reverse the conditioning done to these groups and the world would be better off.

You see the current way of dealing with these kinds of people aint working.

>>130374615
>Just because they didnt have the energy to devote all their attention to me and refrain from yelling after a long work day when I was being bratty does not make sex with a kid ok.
Ok, I'm not discussing your personal life. I am comparing different aspects of what's termed "abuse": neglect and emotional abuse, aggression, etc, can cause trauma, and comparing that with the effects of mutual sexual relations, we find that the trauma of the former is greater and the trauma of the latter is negligible or nonexistent.

>There is evidence of physical and psychological damage when a kid is exposed to sex.
There is evidence of it in coercive, non mutual-relations. There is a good amount of evidence that its not present in relationships which were mutual.

>Your innocence is STOLEN from you.
Kids aren't innocent. They have sex with each other and some begin sexual relations with adults on their own.

>>130373856
It seems consistent; what is not logical? Why should we limit ourselves?

>>130373322
reading it now, and am at the part where it talks about getting aroused not through the fucking, but the moaning of the women.
that is kinda true for me, but was already before finding female only porn though. when having sex i also enjoy it more if she cums hard. but i think its mostly because i then think i do a good job which means im a real man since i am able to pleasure a woman. maybe for me its just the other way around of cause and effect. maybe i just started at step 2 of the programming. i dont know

>>130375016
You clearly are very young, have no children, and do not understand the word responsibility. Children are very innocent in a loving environment for a very long time.

Oh but you're a snek flag faggotbso maybe that's why. Lolbertarian cunts and Leftist kid fuckers hand in hand, just like Xer planned.

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I'd like to take a moment to point out that men are factually and inarguably attracted to fertile women, and that the sexual market can only include those who can participate. Children aren't included for a reason, and although I think it's healthy to have a discussion about the age most women have reached sexual maturity, whether or not men can or should be allowed to attempt sexual interactions with non-fertile women, should be entirely off the table.

I'm really not sure we can make any kind of rational argument for condoning or enabling this type of behavior either. In fact, I think it's the duty of the men of our "tribe(s)" to ensure this type of behavior isn't even up for consideration.

>>130374966
You can make studies and research while keeping them locked, but I have no more hope of healing these people than I have for faggots to be healed.

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>>130350935
Satan was the first Prince of Israel since it is well known that Michael was the Prince of the Jews but the SECOND, since he took the devils spot faggot he got turned into a GOY

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>>130349163
>all these hipsters that were calling slippery slope a fallacy

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

>>130375259
In fact, I think it's the duty of the men of our "tribe(s)" to ensure this type of behavior isn't even up for consideration.

Bingo. If ducking a pre-pubescent person is on your mind, you demand a lynching. One of the only things disgusting criminals get ride- all kiddy touches must hang.

>>130375234
Nice silly ad hominem. Learn how to construct an argument. Someone isn't bad because you disagree with them, and there's no way to infer any of that from my posts. Is it that you can't find anything to logically dispute, so you have to attack me with complete nonsense?

>>130349163
Bump.
>>130350468
You and your retarded fag friends are all fucking worthless scum.
Why can't you be retarded millennials on YOUR safe spaces?
Why do you fucking annoying bastards have to spread EVERYWHERE?
You are like bacteria, spreading across every website, turning everything into retarded
bullshit, and then having it die, because, turns out, being retarded is
only funny for a few months, and after that shit just starts dying...

>>130375394
Sodom and Gomorrah anon.
And with global warming the ice caps could just melt and flood the world.

>>130349163
>Paedophilia needs help
>SEXISM IS BAD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Good lord I can already see how leftists are going to support not only paedophilia but torture and rape too.

BTW here in my country they are using a trick: adding make up to children and make them drag queen so if you say something they can acuse you of homophobia. There are "kids activities" in the Gay Pride this year.

>>130375016
I cannot believe you are defending having sex with a child but I guess I shouldnt be shocked with the way things have been.

Go ahead, have some kids and offer them up to some disease infested pedos for their 5th birthday. Im sure they will thank you when they are older!!!
Kids brains arent developed, so they cant understand what it means to give up their virginity to a predatory adult.
But you dont get this simple concept because you care more about the feelings of a child rapist.

Can a girl with down syndrome consent? If a guy tricked her into bed because he was desperate, would that be ok? She isnt really ashamed until her family finds out and presses charges.
Can a drunk person not in their right mind consent?
Throw yourself into a fire.

>>130349163
Oh wow, bongistan is becoming a meme-tier- sweden nation alarmingly fast.

>>130375517
I don't need logic. You posited that children are devoid of innocence because "they fuck each other". I don't think you're smart enough to realize on how many levels that's just Down's syndrome grade thinking. You think four year old kids fuck each other? As hominems and all the other debate class buzzwords you used are not needed when you're confronting someone like yourself (someone with absolute dogshit for brains).

>>130349163
lolicon > pedophile
real pedos are equal in mental instability as queer trigendered trannies

>>130375338
There is hope. We are learning more about the brain quicker than ever before. Of course its possible

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>>130351152
>thats flag
>thats post

>>130350935
>he doesn't know satan is metaphor for humanity and not "THE DEVIL xD"

Holy fuck read the bible front to back christfag and tell me I'm not right

>>130375600
I'm defending having sex with a child? I'm arguing that it doesn't cause trauma if it is consensual and mutual, not that you should do it.

>Kids brains arent developed, so they cant understand what it means to give up their virginity to a predatory adult.
Kids are able to do many things without having fully developed brains. Why should we take away the use of their own bodies because their brains aren't developed, when we have evidence using them isn't harmful? Who said they should give it up to a predatory adult? That would be bad. What are you talking about?

> you care more about the feelings of a child rapist.
No, I care about evidence and reason to construct a sane position. I've provided both, you haven't.

>Can a girl with down syndrome consent? If a guy tricked her into bed because he was desperate, would that be ok? She isnt really ashamed until her family finds out and presses charges.
Tricking is coercion and isn't consensual. You are using a strawman argument which is boring and irrational. Mental retardation is a different problem, kids aren't mentally retarded.

>Can a drunk person not in their right mind consent?
Children are drunk? Drunk sex should only be considered rape if one partner is sober and used the other's state for sex.

>>130375758
>I don't need logic.
Clearly.

I didn't say "they fuck each other" as I am not a vulgarian. They are indeed devoid of classical moralistic "innocence" because kids are known to sexually experiment and to teach each other about it from a very young age. There are also many examples of kids beginning sexual encounters with adults. Yes, four year olds engage in sex. This is basic childhood psychology knowledge.

>As hominems and all the other debate class buzzwords you used are not needed when you're confronting someone like yourself (someone with absolute dogshit for brains).
>Logical fallacies are buzzwords

>>130376190
>Thinking a paedophile would accept rejection of the kid they like.

>Why should we take away the use of their own bodies

They don´t want to study so I guess we should allow them to not go to school right? please.
Forbid things to kids is good, a 7 years old kid wouldn´t understand why an adult keep insisting him. Nor the paedophile would allow them to like some kid from their class.

>>130376190
So you don't even have a community college level education? Do you understand what the frontal lobe is and when it develops?

>>130375626
Fucking stupid bongs

>>130376467
>There are also many examples of kids beginning sexual encounters with adults

Most of them end up unstable as fuck. Yeah of course a 4 years old understand sex with an adult.

I just hope you are not close of any kid.

>>130376190
If kids want to bolt into traffic because theyre too too stupid to realize what will happen, should we stop them?

Stop saying consensual sex with a kid. It does not exist. I dare your faggot ass to protest your theories in public if you care so much about the sexual libeartion of children.
You wouldnt because most sane people condemn this and would beat your fucking ass for saying these things.
I really hope you do though, so the dad who lost his little girl or boy to consensual sex can express his anger on the canvas of your face.

>>130376487
>Thinking a paedophile would accept rejection of the kid they like.
Let's consider a few points. First, why would a pedophile alone be more likely to engage in rape, that is, forcing the issue when someone says no? This is your belief based on bias, not reason. Second, we have the preponderance of evidence which shows mutual relations didn't cause harm, so we can safely assume the adult partner in these relations didn't force the relation, it was mutual.

>They don´t want to study so I guess we should allow them to not go to school right? please.
Can they not study on their own? I don't have the data on hand, but in fact homeschooled kids do better in the long run than public school kids, on an average. You can look it up. This seems besides the point though.

>Forbid things to kids is good,
To a point, you should teach discipline. There's no reason pleasure should be forbidden unless it is excessive or the child is addicted. We allow kids candy, vacations, etc, sometimes, because a strict discipline is also negative.

>>130353901
>Oh please. Are you telling me when you were in sixth grade you didn't want to fuck a teacher? An older lady? Before you turned teenager did you not look at older women and think "Wow I'd love to woo that and take her to fucksville?"

>Grooming and rape are crimes, inviting childish exploration of their sexuality should not be.

There's literally no difference.

>>130376962
Death and serious injury is different from mutual pleasure. I've already shown how sexual relations aren't actually harmful, how its an assumption based on belief and brainwashing. You are using a very clear false equivalence.

>Stop saying consensual sex with a kid. It does not exist.
Maybe you should make a logical argument backed up with evidence to show this. I've provided one you haven't disputed at all.

>People I disagree with should be beaten

>>130351808
you spelled piss wrong

>>130349163

Sounds more like an effort to get them help rather than let them hide and be a threat.

>>130377181
Im not doing anything for you. Youre trying to convince me im wrong when I have the law on my side. Its not hard to search the consequences exposure to being raped as a child have.
I would without hesitation torture someone for destroying my childs innocence.
Children are vulnerable and need adults to look after them not take advantage of them.
Please die now or at least slowly and painfully.

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I'm okay with this.

>>130376501
How is your question relevant? My argument is that the development stage of the brain is not fundamentally important to the decision, which is very similar to the argument that consent is considered impossible because the potential harm is too great, which I've shown is false. If kids still aren't allowed to consent, they will be raped by rapists regardless. The argument governs mutual relations, which I've said since the first post.

If sex is shown to be not actually harmful by itself, why should it remain illegal? We base illegality on children on harm, or at least purport to, which is why kids can't drive but can climb a tree.

>>130377591
haha

I really don't get this line of reasoning. Being gay is a genetic fuckup, right? But it's completely benign, you're gay, you find someone else who's gay, you fuck, no harm done.
Similarly, pedophilia is a genetic fuckup, but here it's actually harmful to individuals and society, why would you take a soft approach to this problem?

Yes, it's tragic that someone was born this way, but for fucks sake when they start raping children we as a society can comfortably say "that's enough" and fire up the ovens. At some point you hae toput society first

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>>130349163
>the slippery slope logic is a fallacy goyim trust (((me)))

>>130377591
>Youre trying to convince me im wrong when I have the law on my side
Can you think of any other instances in history when the law was immoral or based on illogical belief?

>Its not hard to search the consequences exposure to being raped as a child have.
Its not hard to search the consequences of mutual sex, which is not rape, and I've even told you the names of studies. Did I argue kids should be raped? Who are you arguing with?

>Children are vulnerable and need adults to look after them not take advantage of them.
Mutual relations aren't taking advantage, adults are far more likely to take advantage emotionally to get what they want, to make sure their kids are what they want them to be instead of what they are.

Why do you want me to die slowly and painfully because you disagree with me? That's rude.

>>130349163
Another piece of evidence pointing to the fact that lolberterians are useful idiots and should be gassed

TALMUDISTS WILL NOT FUCK MY CHILDREN HEIL HITLER

>>130350468
The only way to "help" them is a bullet

>>130357295
Why the fuck would someone announce they were a pedo when they didn't perform any offenses?
Do you know how stupid that sounds?

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>>130378021
Youre ignoring the points I make and going back to your theory.
Good luck changing this "oppressive immoral" law that people would defend with their life.
I will literally take to the streets and kill pedo sympathizers like you if kids protections are ever taken. Im sure im not alone in that.

>>130378021
You're probably just being a troll and all, but this IS /pol/ so if you're for real I wouldn't be shocked.

You see, you unimaginable retard, there is no such thng as "mutual" sex with a child, since a child is not capable of understanding the implications sex nor is it yet biologically equipped to handle it.

So if a child tells you "oh golly jeez mistah, pwease fuck me!" that is not an acceptable reason to fuck them.

>>130378021
Children should not be having sexual relationships weather its consensual or not. They are not wise enough, they can trust the wrong people, it robs their innocents and would corrupt them and further more (and i do realise its just a social norm) its sick.

I fucking guessed it >>130351742

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Id like pedos skulls to come into mutual contact will my hammer

This is one the greatest threads I've ever seen. All smiles here.

GG POL. You really showed the world how truly enlightened you are.

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The BBC has a history of sheltering pedophiles and this is no surprise, they act like we are morons and we forgot that they had pedos hired.

>>130349163
the story has no author. I bet they just made it up to push their agenda. story claims he was "cured"! How exactly? I'm calling this story as totally fabricated to make the public feel sorry for peados. SICK!

>>130378585
Why do you think changing the law of consent would make kids endangered? If someone wants to rape them, the law is not what they're thinking about. If anything, changing the social stigmas and laws would have a net positive effect, making sex less shameful would allow more kids able to speak out if they were coerced into it.

>>130378859
>there is no such thng as "mutual" sex with a child,
Yes there is, its when a child mutually engages in sex. Studies show this criteria is not associated with harm, unless there was a group effort by psychotherapists and authority figures convincing otherwise and causing a massive hullabaloo. See >>130373736

>since a child is not capable of understanding the implications sex nor is it yet biologically equipped to handle it.
Children can be taught about disease. They are taught not to do dangerous things and to stay away from things which can harm them. They are indeed biologically equipped to handle it, children are sexual since infancy. Explain how it is automatically bad if an adult is involved in mutual pleasure with a child.

>>130378962
>They are not wise enough, they can trust the wrong people, it robs their innocents and would corrupt them and further more (and i do realise its just a social norm) its sick.
We have studies showing sexual relations are very often non-harmful. They can trust the wrong people on numerous things. If they trust the wrong people and are raped, its rape, not a consensual relationship. Other forms of abuse such as physical and emotional are far more likely if they trust the wrong person, or if they wrong person has authority over them.

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>>130359738
Consent requires parity of understanding by both parties. Children lack the ability of cost benefit analysis, judgement, and responsibility. That is why the father of the daughter should be the judge of consent, and all potential suitors must be granted permission to court the daughter. This is why the father gives away the daughter. Age of consent is a Jewish trick to break down the family.

>>130378585
>Youre ignoring the points I make and going back to your theory.
I don't believe I am, but if you insist, you can point out where I did so and I will rectify it.

>>130351152
Accepting homosexuality lead to an AIDS epidemic and standard fuck parties.

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>>130379534
You know you're a degenerate save someone the effort and neck yourself

>>130379534
Because, when you tell a child "santa claus is coming to give you gifts!", they stay awake all night trying to spy a look at santa.

children are not congitively developed yet. imposing opinions on them is unfair as they can't be reasonably expected to develop full reasoning skills. they are also emotionally immature.

and you know this, you unimaginable retard. i truly do hope you're just a troll, i'd rather be trolled than think i had to respond to an actual pedophile.

Condemning people is what the leftist SJWs do, guys. We need to take the high road. Don't stoop to leftist tactics!

>>130379861
Ye without sin ;)

>>130374929

I don't have "fee-fee" topics like you retards.

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>>130349163
>BBC Three

>>130374745
Why would a pedophile ever identify himself if that was the punishment for his existence? You just want an excuse to satisfy your own degenerate bloodlust.

Fight pedos with fire

>>130379861
>Degenerate meme
Did you know the age of consent was as young as 8 in many places in the West before (((Feminism))) changed the laws because of a moral panic? You are the degenerate, you're just too hopelessly brainwashed to understand that.

>>130379984
>Because, when you tell a child "santa claus is coming to give you gifts!", they stay awake all night trying to spy a look at santa.
This isn't true, only in some cases. I've known children to laugh at you and only engage in belief in Santa because the adults enjoy it.

How can they use their nonmature reasoning skills to determine if their legal guardians are abusing them emotionally, physically, sexually then? Do they get to choose not to go to school if the school is abusive? We've determined that sexual relations aren't actually inherently harmful, with consent as a criteria, from studies. Does the law against having sex with them prevent rapists from raping them? It doesn't. It just changes that they won't be unfairly put through a trial of guilt because they engaged in a mutually pleasurable relationship. Can they choose other forms of pleasure with their limited reason? So why are other forms of pleasure less harmful than sex? You'll have to provide a reasonable argument and evidence. I provided evidence that sexual relations aren't actually harmful if they are mutual.

I don't think you'll ever see how you're engaging in circular reasoning, so I've made the argument simpler.

>>130363713
Already underway. Furries.
Bestiality is no longer a specific crime in New Zealand. Its under the catch all of animal abuse. So if you seduce the sheep and its willing, you are OK.

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>>130379534

This>>130379984
If you have sex with a child no matter if consensual or not then there is something missing from you. Pedos who act out on their sick sexual desires ought to be hung. Ones who try to justify it need to be hanged,drawnandfucking quartered.

>>130380551
>How can they use their nonmature reasoning skills to determine if their legal guardians are abusing them emotionally, physically, sexually then?

they can't. the legal system of adults determines this. social workers determine this.

>Do they get to choose not to go to school if the school is abusive?
If the school is abusive, you unimaginable retard, it would become public knowledge pretty fast and ADULTS would determine if it should close or not.

>We've determined that sexual relations aren't actually inherently harmful, with consent as a criteria, from studies

Yes, you unimaginable retard, we've determind that sexual relations aen't inheretly harmful for ADULTS. we've determined no such thing for CHILDREN.
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>Does the law against having sex with them prevent rapists from raping them?
What does this have to do with anything, you unimaginable retard? the law against raping ADULTS doesn't prevent rapists from raping them

>>130380775
>I can't engage in a logical argument, so I will just say you need to be brutally murdered
Why would you punish someone for something which doesn't cause harm? Because your personally think its gross and have been brainwashed into hating it.

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>>130380551
A disparity in maturity invalidates consent. You can't sell a child a home mortgage, car finance, or have sex with them. They lack the ability to fulfill responsible obligations, like have a job, play bills/loans, or raise children themselves. No court or DRO would validate consent or contracts when there is a gross disparity of maturity between parties.

>>130381009
So at what age do you reckon a child is ok to have a good ol kiddiediddlin time with?

>>130380970
>they can't. the legal system of adults determines this.
Exactly. This is fallible. We can change the legal system of adults, which I've been arguing we should do. Or do you think that it comes from God, handed down and completely rational?

>social workers determine this.
Social workers being involved actually leads to the child considering sex as harmful in the first place, or at least more harmful, please read the greentext of these studies I posted here >>130373736

Plummer, Ken (1981). "The Paedophile's Progress: A View from Below," in Brian Taylor (ed.), Perspectives on Paedophilia, p. 227. London: Batsford.
>Studies point to the experience being without trauma and frequently mutually pleasurable ... unless, and this is an important proviso, it is 'discovered' by the family or the community. When this happens, it appears that the child can become shocked by the engulfing anger and outrage of the adult.

Trusting in social workers to determine if something is bad is blind man's bluff. These are not smart people.

>If the school is abusive it would become public knowledge pretty fast and ADULTS would determine if it should close or not.
Plenty of adults want their kids to go to abusive schools, because it is "discipline." What do you think Catholic schools are? They were forced by governments to stop hitting kids, not by Catholic parents sending their kids there.

>Yes, you unimaginable retard, we've determind that sexual relations aen't inheretly harmful for ADULTS. we've determined no such thing for CHILDREN.
We have, through the use of evidence and reason, if we are honest. Let's read Rind et al., Ulrich et al., The Trauma Myth, etc.

>the law against raping ADULTS doesn't prevent rapists from raping them
It doesn't prevent people from raping kids either. Why would changing the consent laws make kids more likely to be harmed? Aren't statistics of rape based on population, race, poverty levels, etc?

>>130349163
Bump

>>130381482
You...I'm done. If you were actually trying to be smart and making some kind of logical trap, I would bother to keep disproving you, but your fallacious logic is pretty apparent I think.

You're kind of like a young earth creationist, trying desperately to appear like you have a point when everyone can see though it.

This is utterly pointless.

>>130381482
Laws are not made for deterrence. Laws are made to define crime, establish sentence guidelines that fit the crime. Deterrence of crime is determined by the chance of being caught, not the severity of punishment, or illegality.

>>130381423
Sex isn't a contract, its basis of illegality is the harm. Mutual pleasure shouldn't be compared with mortgage or car finance. That's insanity. Consent is mutual agreement, and its based on the possibility of harm. Since mutual sexual relations are not harmful, consent between kids and adults shouldn't be a legal issue. Rape should be. We are discussing changing the law, not worshiping the law as a contract for bodily pleasures.

>>130381885
You impregnate a 12 year old. Who is responsible to raise the kid?

>>130381838
>Laws are not made for deterrence.
Patently false. Law originally developed as sheer deterrence. Robbers had their hands cut off. Liars in contracts had their tongues cut out. To pretend law still doesn't have the same fundamental value is absurd. You're believing in what law calls itself and determines is its own value, not its actual practical function in a society.

>>130382017
I don't argue hypothetical scenarios, I deal in evidence and an application of reason. If you had a better argument, you would come up with an actual rebuttal instead of a silly question.

We know what they're planning, but how do we stop that? Any suggestions? There should be a thread specially for solutions for this bs

>>130382184
Thats a very valid question. There would be a risk of it and a child should not be having babies ffs

>>130382056
Common law is not about deterrence. Are you satisfied with the clarification?

>>130382184
What responsibility does a 12 year old mother to be have?

>>130382306
Why not ask in a more honest way? Such as "how would you prevent pregnancy in a relationship between children and adults?" for which the answer would be obvious.

>>130382412
Somewhat. But why did you originally respond to my post with a point about it not being deterrence? Common law not being about deterrence doesn't change the psychological reasons people commit crimes or don't commit them. You seem to be asking small questions that have little do with the arguments being raised.

>>130382476
Why are you asking me? I assume she would be responsible for it not dying, which would be the first criteria. 12 year olds have been mothers throughout human history, I'm sure they're capable of it, but I haven't argued that they should be or that it would be a good idea at all, so I'm unsure of why you're asking me.

>>130382717
>>130382184
I have ammended two of my responses to humor your conversational standards. Your refusal to answer further is a forfeit.
What responsibility does a pregnant 12 year old have?

>>130381771
You are arguing banal and simplistic things with little use of reason and no evidence, and you're accusing me of logical fallacies? Why do you have to make a dramatic post conceding an argument? Its pointless from your perspective because I'm arguing against your beliefs, and you believe you're being rational and the mature one, when you're simply arguing based on preconceived ideas.

>>130383141
Why are you pretending to make an argument? Make one or don't. Your desire to appear clever is irrelevant to me.

>>130350468
Help in the form of a bullet is cheap and should be available to all pedos, gays, trannies etc.

>>130382717
>"how would you prevent pregnancy in a relationship between children and adults?" for which the answer would be obvious.

You would think so...
Obviously you should quit the kiddie fiddling.
If paedophilia is legalized do you really think there will not be a bunch of 10-15 year olds having babies? come on... Sometimes a condom does not do the job. Alot of pregnancies come about by accident and you know that.

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>>130383294
I accept your forfeit, on the terms established.

>>130383360
>If paedophilia is legalized do you really think there will not be a bunch of 10-15 year olds having babies?
There already are, and their partners are the same age. Why do you think a fully grown adult would be as irresponsible as a teenager? Wouldn't it be more likely that pregnancy would be lessened in those relationships, or if it happened, the baby would be better off with an adult father?

>>130383503
Sorry, I don't really understand what you're talking about. You seem to have made a random argument based on barely anything I said and then I "forfeit" it when I try to determine what you mean.

>>130354777
noice