Is Iran a Threat to the west?

No. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a zionist shill.

>>130347357
>>130347358

WHOA

nazis and communists agreeing with one another?

>>130347227
Both cryptocurrency and Iran are a threat to the FED or kike controlled central banks because fiat currency is backed by petrodollar.

There's a possibility Iran will be behind the cryptocurrency revolution, ending the tyranny of kikes.

>>130347227
No

>>130347227
If western leaders wanted peace in the ME they would support Iran

>>130347227
The UN general assembly condemns any action taken against Iran. The US cannot violate international law within purity

>>130347227

They're a threat to international kikery and Israel, which is a good thing in my book

>>130348188

interesting

did bitcoin originate in China or Iran then?

>>130347227
No
But >>130348360

>>130348297
Many powerful Westerners are actually luring Iran to help them rid the kike infestation through sanctions. They know Iranians are ingenuous and will begin transitioning to cryptocurrency.

We're moving more towards a libertarian world or Nick Land's vision.

>>130347227
Yes, and anyone that says otherwise is a Mudslime loving scum.

>>130348188
I forget what it's called but, they have or working on one that's gold backed.

>>130348379
Iran wants to start trading oil for cryptocurrency, breaking the petrodollar system.

There are other cryptocurrencies out there. It's a good time to invest.

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>>130347227
I would like to see US try to make peace with Iran and, Russia. Would be nice if Iran would accept Israel too.

>>130347227
friendly reminder that if you're white your people originated in Iran

>>130348493

Looks like you're alone ITT Reddit cuck

>>130348493
I wonder who's behind this post

>>130349148

1492

>>130347227
No, Israel is.

>>130347227
No

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>>130347227
Not really, they're just anti-Israel and keep to themselves most of the time.

>>130347227
Nope, just your average third world hellhole

>>130349148
Iran funds Commie parties in the West. See Podemos. If Israel wants that the US invades Iran for them Fuck Israel. But make no mistake Iran is just another mudslime cesspool, only that is one centered in fighting Jews and other Muslims at this point, but they don't like you and will gladly destroy you.

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>>130347227
YES
WE MUST INVADE

>>130347227
Iran is the last hope of mankind

No they aren't, we should open up to them. Iran Deal was one of the few good things Obama did.

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>>130349729
Give that man a Refugee.

>>130349885
being destroyed is the only viable way to fix my country. our jewish cancer is too deeply ingrained

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>>130350002
Oh yeah, I forgot for a moment they actually fund this faggot

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>>130347227
ask my childhood friend's mother.

>>130350101

Communism ethno-nationalism over jews and multiculturalist capitalism

ancap is not an option

>>130350285
Jews exert power via central banks. Decentralized cryptocurrency is one way to undermine the power of Jews, but this will lead to more unbridled capitalism, which is a lesser evil compared to Jews starting wars and exacerbating them by funding both sides with the FED.

>>130349885
That's crap and you know it. MEK is communist. MEK is NOT- and will never be in power, in Iran.
While there are some Arabs/ mixed in Iran. The majority are Persian.

No. Iran is NOT a threat to the West- but the US is doing it's dead level best to be a threat to them.

>>130350447

And Iran has a censored and regulated internet soon to be intrAnet with crypto currency linked directly to the iranian central bank

No, Iran is not.

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>>130347227
To the west yes. To the world no. You disgusting subhuman whiteshits will be dealt with soon enough though.
>>130348188
>>130348360
>>130348480
You seem to be terribly misinformed. We don't hate Jews, we hate Israeli's for stealing Palestine, and one reason we hate the west is for enabling them.
But of course not all Jews are Israeli's or zionists, and we have nothing against them.
>>130349936
Iran will never open up to the west. Even the liberals and communists hate the west. It is the one factor uniting the entire country.
As for the Iran deal, that was frozen assets given back to Iran. It was our money to begin with. Obama didn't do anything special. He was simply returning what was ours.
>>130350874
Persian/Arab aren't ethnicities. Persians basically are Arabs who speak a different language. Also Iran isn't the only Persian country.

>>130350921
>soon to be intrAnet
I don't think Iran will make an intranet.

>crypto currency linked directly to the iranian central bank
That's not how cryptocurrency works. Bancor (created by Jews) is set to be like that, but I don't think Iran supports a cryptocurrency that functions like that.

The sooner the West abandons the petrodollar, the better. Decentralized cryptocurrency is that way and also undermines Jewish central banks.

>>130351156
You're not Iranian. We already exposed how you're involved in a psyops to portray Iranians in bad light. IDF or some other group gave you a bunch of images in a folder to spread to make Iranians seem licentious and Islamists.

Now go kys, lying piece of shit.

You are either Balochi or Arab scum, who will soon be purged mark my words, or on a psyops mission.

desu until we meddled they never were

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>>130351321
>anyone I don't like is a shill
Hello diaspora internet defense force. Nice to see you talking out of your ass with baseless claims.

>>130351425
They are still not.

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>>130351659
>Guy calls you out as non-Iranian
>Don't change your flag to geographic location

>>130351659
You're the one who's on a mission to portray Iranians as overzealous Muslims, with shit statistics, with shitty images that some shady group gave you.

How much does IDF, CIA, or whatever group pays you to do this? Come on, it's time to be honest and tell us who you really are.

You aren't Iranian. You lack the hospitality of Iranians and keep posting lewd images in order to make us seem like Arabs. It's not working, you lying piece of shit.

>>130351847
I meant the middle east as a whole

>>130351909
He clams to be a Khomeinist in LA studying engineering, but I've called out his shit numerous times. He's on a psyops to portray Iranians on a negative light.

He posts the same images over again and has been exposed as not having in-depth knowledge about Iranian culture.

He's a lying shill. Don't trust him.

>>130352007

its hillarious that as soon as we were given alternative flags all the Foreign flags EXCEPT FOR AMERICAN dissappeared

makes you think...

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>>130347227
No.
Iran hasn't been in a war in 600 years aside from when us burgers attacked them over jew/saudi lies.

>>130349885
Just remember that Spain has given spanish nationality to sephardis again.

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>>130351909
I am Iranian. 4chan is blocked in Iran so you can only post with vpn.
>>130352007
>with shit statistics, with shitty images that some shady group gave you.
I get them off google and Iranian websites. No one gave them to me.
Just because you don't like statistics and images showing things that go against your disgusting diasporafag views doesn't make them not true.
>You lack the hospitality of Iranians
We are very hospitable. Just not towards subhuman westerners.
>in order to make us seem like Arabs
>us
what do you mean "us"? You're not Iranian you pro western amerifat shit
>>130352117
proofs?

>>130351156
Show flag.

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>>130351156
>>130351659
>>130351909

lol Iranians are not arabs. Neither are Syrians. Neither are turks, obviously. They are arabized and islamized, but they still have a lot of non-arab genes. Some of them have mostly non-arab genes, pic related.

Sorry but there is no way in hell you can say this girl is the same as you in racial terms. This girl is beautiful, you are an ugly monkey. I plan to get one of these girls and make her my wife, so I can save her from being lumped together with scum as yourself.

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>>130351156
>Persian/Arab aren't ethnicities. Persians basically are Arabs who speak a different language.
kek, false flag.

>>130352552
I am Iranian
>Have an Arab religion
>Have Arab names
>Act like Arabs
>Have an Arab script
>Pride yourselves on looking like Arabs

Okay Mahmoud

>>130352552
>Just not towards subhuman westerners.
This video begs to differ:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2LEgowbzSc

>Just because you don't like statistics and images showing things that go against your disgusting diasporafag views doesn't make them not true.
All of those stats are biased, you stupid ass shill. I know for sure some shady group is paying you to portray Iranians in negative light. Everything that comes from your mouth is full of shit.

>what do you mean "us"? You're not Iranian you pro western amerifat shit
Shut the fuck up, shill.

>proofs?
Everyone who has spoken to you knows you're a liar and piece of shit. You've been doing this for a long time, and very adamant about it, I know for certain you are being paid by some shady organization.

>>130352806
She looks like a semite. Persians are bronzed, not pinkskinned cucks.

>>130352552
>I am Iranian. 4chan is blocked in Iran so you can only post with vpn.
See, this is how I know you are lying. Last time you said you were in LA studying engineering. You said you were involved in school where there was a pro-Islam rally.

You are contradicting yourself. This is further proof you are being paid by a shady organization and are not Iranian, or if you are from Iran, you are from an Arab or Balochi scum minority that tends to hate Persians.

You didn't even know about the Shahnameh and most Iranians do. You are a lying scum, and you are not from Isfahan as you claim.

>>130353030
He's not Iranian. He's a shill LARPing as an Iranian to portray us negatively. I've caught him in numerous lies and contradiction.

Some group like AIPAC, IDF, or CIA is paying him. I am 100% sure. No conspiracy here.

>>130353184
>You're not Iranian
>You're probably a balochi

Wat. Nigga are you high?

>Shahnameh
WE WUZ SHAHANSHAHZ N SHIIIIEEET

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>>130353123
She is a "turk", but it is pretty obvious that she is nowhere near this other "turk" in racial terms. This one is a pile of genetic trash, basically.

>>130347227

No.
The western ZOG is a threat to the world.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4

>>130353377
Balochis are not ethnically Iranian. They are like Paki scum.

He is not Persian or any closely related group. He is most likely a surly discriminated ethnic group of Iran or a shill LARPing as a Persian to destroy our public image.

I have caught him in numerous lies.

If he had honor, he would confess by now, but I know for sure he is being paid good money.

>>130352552
If you have any honor, whatsoever, tell us who you are now.

>>130352194
the 1980's called and wanted to remind you of the bloody war against Iraq.

>>130353682
>Balochis are not ethnically Iranian.

They are. If we're going to get rid of the "paki scum" that involves 99% of Iranians seeing as they're mostly muzzies now.

>Our public image
Iran hasn't had a public image for a while now.
>Our
We're nothing like you Muslims. Zoroastrianism is a good religion while Islam is a literal death cult.

>>130353682
>>130354133
A positive public image*

this thread has turned an interesting way

what about iranian drug/human trafficking, does it have a problem, especially with russia

what about the IRGC?

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>>130352806
Arab isn't a race or ethnicity. What we all are is muslim.
>Sorry but there is no way in hell you can say this girl is the same as you in racial terms. This girl is beautiful, you are an ugly monkey. I plan to get one of these girls and make her my wife, so I can save her from being lumped together with scum as yourself.
Nice fantasy you have there.
Also people in the muslim world are all severely mixed with each other. So race or ethnicity no longer exists for us. Also that is why it is not surprising that people from the same parts of the muslim world can look so different. We have a very diverse gene pool.
>>130353005
Islam isn't an Arab religion. If you knew anything about Islam you would know what an ignorant and false statement that is.
>>130353030
>This video begs to differ:
Nice cherrypicking senpai
>All of those stats are biased, you stupid ass shill.
>A-anything I don't like is biased. Also anyone who says stuff I don't like is a shill!
Why don't you post stats showing otherwise? Oh thats because they don't exist.
>I know for sure some shady group is paying you to portray Iranians in negative light. Everything that comes from your mouth is full of shit.
You just described yourself lol
>Everyone who has spoken to you knows you're a liar and piece of shit. You've been doing this for a long time, and very adamant about it, I know for certain you are being paid by some shady organization.
That's not proof, just you trying to discredit evidence with your baseless claims. And seeing as how this board is full of islamophobic neo nazi's its no surprise.
>>130353184
The spring quarter just ended so I got to back for a bit.
>You didn't even know about the Shahnameh and most Iranians do. You are a lying scum, and you are not from Isfahan as you claim.
disgusting larp
>>130353682
Ok diasporashit who has never been to Iran, a 98% muslim majority country

They are a threat, but Saudi arabs are a far larger threat.

>>130352194
>Iran hasn't been in a war for 600 years

Kind of difficult when you've been ruled by Turks for the past 600 years.

>>130354329

tell me how LGBT works in Iran/ islam, how do people justify it

and how doe sIran feel about turkmenistan/ central asia and china

>>130354329
>Islam isn't an Arab religion
Maybe you don't see it because you're living in an Arab country.

>>130348297
Iran funds, arms, and directs militias in Iraq, Yemen, Lebanon, and Syria, and this will only be emboldened by western approval. This isn't that big of a deal in and of itself, as Sunni / Shia violence has no negative outcome to the civilized world, but their violence could threaten the oil flow, and cry all you want about evil oil, but affordable energy is a good thing.

>>130354565
Homosexuality is a sin. If you are caught, you can either have gender reassignment or get your head chopped off.
>and how doe sIran feel about turkmenistan/ central asia and china
Mostly favorable. China not so much because they help and have dealings with the west. But no one really hates china either because we kind of need them too

>>130351659
>>130352552
Lol. Persian here. Compare us to Ar*bs again we'll gas you last. kike

>>130354861

bab al mandab and straight of hormuz as a choke point

Russia benefits from this....

>>130354891
>Homosexuality is a sin
>Founder of the faith was the biggest faggot to live

Just one of Islam's contradictions.

If by "west" you mean "israel", then yes, absolutely.

>>130354944
No Iranian calls themselves Persian. Just like no Afghan or Tajik calls themselves Persian either. Also no one hates Arabs as they're brothers and sisters in Islam. Thanks for ousting yourself as an ignorant westerner

>>130354944
>Claims not to be an Arab
>Hates Jews

Okay Ali Muhammad Arabian

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>>130347227
Civilized people, as well as Iranians themselves, were better off with the Shah

>>130355017
You should watch what you say you disgusting subhuman swine

>>130354622
I live in a muslim country. There is no such thing as an arab, persian, etc country

>>130355203
lol now I know you're a kike shill gas lighting autisties on /pol/ to stoke Anti-Persian sentiment.

LOL no

It's just Israel being kikes like usual, Israel has also been crying like babies since the 80's about Iran building nukes and nothing happened and nothing will ever happen because that's how kikes operate.

I hate Muslims, but I approve of Iran and Syria out of every other Middle Eastern country.

does anyone think the MEK or similar elements back black lives matter or black nationalist groups

>>130355203
Fuck Mohammed.. Okay and fuck you too Moshe. Semitic filth like you needs a firm boot to bleed under.

You better get on your knees and pray for Assad's victory soon like a good little shitskin.

He's the only thing stopping WW3. You don't know how serious shit is right now

>>130355203
>Watch what you say
Why? Muhammad was a str8 bitch boi that got rekt by a Jewish woman.

>>130355324
>There is no such thing as an Arab, Persian country

Soon.
>>130355379
Seriously? This dude sounds like most of the Arabs in Iran.

>>130353704
>implying Iran was the aggresor
in the beginning they werent, idk what ended up happening

>>130355730
I imagine things are very serious.

Israel and Saudis wants Syria dead.
Saudis want Qatar dead.
It's oil billions fighting oil billions.

>>130355793
>IDK what happened

They're Muslims bruh, the only thought they have is a violent one.

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>>130347227

No, The west is a threat to the west.

>>130356109
t.muhammad in the West

>>130347227
No. All the Sunnis in surrounding countries are.

>>130356011
All those fancy new weapons from the US are going to be used on themselves. Sand to sand. However, the average Arab citizen is very radical now so it won't take much to start a civil war. Say a drop in standards of living from a war or waning oil economy ? :)

>>130347855
That's how fucking bad the Israel problem is

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>>130355379
t. retarded ignorant uneducated westerner who knows nothing about Islam. You will pay for your crimes one way or another.
>>130355613
Assad is an Iranian puppet lmao
>>130356401
Nice divide and conquer tactics. It won't work

>>130347227
No.

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>>130356109
You're not wrong, but it was worse under Nigger Obama.

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>>130356296

Daily reminder that your kind is part of the western problem.

> Also i'm not Muhammad since i'm a white European.

>>130356572
Awww moosh bokhoradet you little shit

>>130356572
Show your flag kike. Persians aren't banned here. I see them all the time

>>130356572

what are your thoughts on the 1999 and 2009 protests

>>130351156
What about KSA building mosques in the whole world and literally (the word is here for a reason) raising an ISIS 2.0 in Indonesia while sending the governor of Jakarta to jail for so-called blasphemy when he called on Muslims not to base themselves on the Qur'an to vote?
Does Iran does that?

>>130356965
>>130356572
This. I've seen many Iranian flags on /pol/. If you can't show yours, you're a LARPer.

>>130352552
>post with vpn.
MODS!! He admitted to using a Proxy !!! MODS MODS MODS

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>>130348611
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>>130356767
Isn't this a cosplay of that one girl from Eternal Summer?

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>>130356572
But ISIS is Sunni, and Shiites are in fact fighting ISIS.

>>130349885
t. shlomo

Ask Salman Rushdie, how dangerous those fuckers are

>>130347227


No.

But Iran is the arch-nemesis of world kikery.

>>130348539
They're buying the Chinese thing that the Chinese are working on backing with gold. If enough people, especially energy producers like Qatar, Syria, Iran, Iraq and Russia all abandon the petrodollar for the "petroyuan" or whatever, the American and maybe western economy may turn into a disaster.

Fortunately we do nothing to antagonize those countries and they love us, so wouldn't abandon us like that.

>>130356767
>I'm a white European
>Istanbul is technically in Europe

Clever.

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>>130356853
>kaffir fek mekone Irooni hast
lmao @ zendege et
>>130356965
>>130357249
We used to be able to post using https but the government patched that up
>>130357151
Just some rats making too much noise who were swiftly put down. Pretty much irrelevant.
>>130357234
>What about KSA building mosques in the whole world
Pretty based if that was all they were doing. But in reality they are exporting wahhabism which is a threat to muslims as a whole.
>raising an ISIS 2.0 in Indonesia while sending the governor of Jakarta to jail for so-called blasphemy when he called on Muslims not to base themselves on the Qur'an to vote?
ISIS was created by the west and only serves western interests. They are not muslims. As for that governor being jailed, if he really said that then what happened to him was just.
>>130357281
Reread what I wrote. I didn't admit to anything
>>130357535
ISIS is not sunni. They are not even muslims. They have even admitted that what they are doing has nothing to do with religion. They are a CIA/Mossad group larping as muslims. There is a very clear definition of who is a muslim and who is not. They are not muslims. Muslims are the biggest victims of ISIS.
>>130357545
His mere existence is an injustice in of itself. He will face justice one day for his crimes iA

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They want to be a threat to the west.

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>>130347227
Well let's make it easy for you... even if they were, it would be very hard to invade them
They are Afghanistan times 20 in level of military invasion
1- Iran is more mountainous than Afghanistan
2- Iran is 5 time larger (in size) than Afghanistan
3- Iran has 3 times more population than Afghanistan
4- Iran has actually two separate multi faceted army systems each one of them with their own navy, army, air-force and missile forces and so on (A: IRGC; B:Artesh)
5- Iran has secondary retaliation systems in form of external forces capable of inflicting real damage to any hostile invasion

and much more

So if USA and allies couldn't win a 14 years long war in Afghanistan... what makes anybody to think the west can successfully invade Iran?

But more importantly, Iran has made significant diplomatic efforts to soften its approach to deal with USA... the anti-american sentiment was a reminiscence of Revolution (imaging Iranian Antifa 37 years ago... hating America, as they do inside of USA)... the Revolution's generation is almost out of power... there are much better chance of working with Iran than working against Iran

>>130348559
Few things get you invaded like wanting to go off the Petrodollar.

Qaddafi wanted gold for his petrol. Saddam wanted the Euro. Both did not go over well.

Best of luck to them.

>>130358616
Can we all agree that we should put our differences aside and focus on Isisrael ? Yes ? Good.
You see Saudi's are in bed with Isisrael and the USA. So sucking Arab cock is a surefire way to get a knife put into your back.

Now that we've established the basics. Yes, there are problems in the West but most people in it are innocent and there is still an "old guard" (European Neo-Nobility) fighting against Jewish influence. Refugees are part of their plan to awaken Europe and rally them to their cause. The fire is rising there. The German old order hasn't been destroyed either and are working towards their comeback

>>130347227
the only country that is a threat to us is Israel

>>130359246
The armed forces of Iran and Iraq fought an eight year war ending in a stalemate. The Iraqi army lasted five minutes against the US.

>>130359210
not really, the only thing iran has to do is let the west continue destroying itself if it want to achieve that. they are more concerned about us shitting up their backyard because our kike masters told us to

>>130360078
and the only victors of the US invasion of iraq were the iranians

What I have to wonder is why should I ever trust people that regularly shout "Death to whites!" and "Death to America!" Same with North Korea. If we suddenly tried to kowtow to them and make peace, how could we ever trust them? Similarly, how would we know that they would ever trust us? It sounds pretty naive to me. It's like saying that we could come to a point where we could trust the Jews. It's not going to happen as far as I can see it.

>>130359312
Iran's in the stink-eye right now because they tried to sell in euros a few years back.

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>>130360078
well Iran fought almost a world war disguised as a bilateral war.
After that 8 years... there were more than 5,000 Egyptian prisoner of war... and prisoners from 45 other countries inside of Iran.

Both USA and Soviet were supporting Iraq with arms... none of them would sale arms to Iran.
All the Persian Gulf countries (minus Oman) both sent military and financial help to Iraq.

Iraq not only was given missiles and chemical weapons... they used that multiple time both against Iran and also their own Shia population.

Iran was under total blockade...
Sadam could invade any other Middle Eastern country and occupy them in 5 days...

And all of this was right after a total cleansing and mass execution of Army generals by the "revolutionary"
Today's Iran is MUCH more stronger than 37 years ago Iran

>>130347227
Not at all, what kind of threat could they possible pose?

>>130355150
>Anyone who doesn't like Jews is an Arab

Are you a P*rsian tier diaspora or a kike?

>>130347855
Not more than my neighbours cat stolling over my backyard.

Jewistan tho...

>>130360158
They did. They benefited from the Jews stabbing our back. Thirty two days of Abu ghraib on the front page of the jew York times, and Americans commitment to the war started to wain. Jewish Hollywood trotted out their stars to condem the Iraq war and get the uninterested masses to turn against it. They did this over and over, until their boy was able to pull us out of Iraq, and lose any opportunity of holding ground in between Saudi Arabia and Iran, rich oil producing ground, rich and strategic ground that would overshadow Israel's importance to the US in the Mideast, and possibly see us cut the purse strings to their favorite nation.

>>130361963
Neither, I'm a parsi.

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>>130360807
Iran wasn't totally on its own in the Iran Iraq war. They seem to be allied with everybody's favorite usurers, among others.

Iran is the most rational country in the whole region. They're not interested in wars, and they're funding shia groups out of necessity.

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>>130355324

Whether you call yourself a Arab or a Persian you're still a sand nigger

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>>130359246
Most of Irans youth today hates the USA and is the most religious generation since the revolution now that the west's influence and its after effect is all but gone. We will carry on the Islamic Republic just fine.
>>130359375
We hate the Saudi government, not the Saudi people. The Saudi people are Islamists. Their government are a bunch of secular closet atheist pro western kuffar who use Islam as a means to remain in power. Google what happened in Saudi Arabia after the Iranian revolution. They were on course to overthrow their secular pro western monarchy like we did ours but they failed.
>Yes, there are problems in the West but most people in it are innocent
Maybe progressive liberals are. Right wing islamophobic fascists are not innocent.
>Refugees are part of their plan to awaken Europe and rally them to their cause
I fully support refugees in the west. It is the least westerners can do after setting the muslim world on fire and destroying the homes of these refugees.
>The German old order hasn't been destroyed either and are working towards their comeback
It has been destroyed and it will stay that way. Right wing fascists need to all be tortured in the most painful and lengthful way before being properly executed.
>>130363824
I am a muslim. You don't seem to get that in Islam there is no such thing as race or ethnicity. Only muslims and the non muslims

>>130363824
Please don't compare me to that LARPer who's being paid by some shady group. I'm not a sandnigger or a Muslim.

Anyways, I doubt most of Iranians mullahs care about Islam. We just use Shia as a way to brainwash Arab shitskins into our pawns and project power across the Middle East.

So long as we can take the oil reserves, who cares? Sending the Arabs into sectarian war and taking their oil reserves would make us powerful. We just lie about being Muslim for power, just like the USA empowers Islamists that conveniently suit its interests.

If we claim not to be Muslim, it would unite the Islamic world against us. It's better to have them fight amongst each other, and then waltz in taking their oil reserves in the name of [insert propaganda here].

>>130360214

Iran and NK are cooperating on nuke programs

makes you think

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>>130363735
>Iran is the most rational country in the whole region. They're not interested in wars,

There "death to America" chants refute both their rationality and their peacefulness

>and they're funding shia groups out of necessity.

They would have no need to fund Shia terrorist groups if they were peaceful, but they aren't, so they fund them in attempt to fight for Iranian influence in Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq.

>>130364448
Blah blah, I know high-profile mullahs, you stupid shitskin, and they don't give a shit about Islam. Their children live hedonistically and like any other Westerner.

You're just a tool to them to expand power and take over oil reserves clandestinely. You are completely disposable, and none of us give a shit about religion. You're just an uneducated Balochi trash we'll use for war under the pretext of religion.

Now go to hell. There is no God, but it is convenient to use it as social control for curs like yourself.

Now grovel at my feet and lick my shoe clean.

>>130364665

The USA has social engineers in order to retain social control. I had a very good article, which I lost, by a senator that discussed the importance of social engineering in the media. In order to keep things brief: Basically, since our society is no longer guided by religiosity, he explained how social deviance in media is used to condition people prior to period of economic downturn. Before periods of inflation or economic downturn, the media encourages social deviance to keep crime rates low via escapism or hedonism, also broadening what is acceptable behavior. You notice this in a lot of mainstream music like Panic! At The Disco's LA Devotee (desensitizing people to pedophilia and acts of violence), Cake by the Ocean, which normalizes people's reactions to greater destruction of ocean, that one song directed to child demographic by Katy Perry mentioning threesomes...

Of course, social engineers (an actual field) sign confidentiality reports showing they can't leak their subliminal messages and so forth. Granted, one can get a genuine idea of how it occurs by looking at popular music and Hollywood trash. The senator gave the general gist of how it works, the timing before significant events crucial.

There is a benefit to using religion for social control. The benefit lies in not letting one's women become whores, media run amok causing social instability, and so forth.

When the petrodollar system collapses, USA and Iran will become friends, regardless. Realpolitik based off petrodollar is preventing friendship right now, but cryptocurrency will change that.

>>130365206
>USA and Iran will become friends, regardless
regardless of their different methods of social control (i.e., increasing propaganda for social deviance versus promoting religiosity).

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>>130364621
>We
>We
What do you mean by "we"? You are a filthy westerner, and are highly misinformed/ignorant. Fuck off
>>130364764
>us
Hilarious how you think you're Iranian and have any base to speak for us despite having never have even lived here. Lmao you kaffir westerner piece of trash. Die in a bombing, like all westerners should.
We are on the path to rebuilding the caliphate under the Islamic Republic and all kuffar will be disposed of like the trash they are.

>>130365769
>We are on a path to rebuilding the Islamic Caliphate
>Has turned into a shithole

Checks out.

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>>130365969
The only shithole is the west desu senpai. Living an Islamic lifestyle is the way.

>>130365769
You are a fucking LARPer being paid by some shady group to destroy our public image as some kind of psyops. Your shitty images are enough proof of that.

Like I've said, I know high-profile Iranian mullahs and am upper-class from both Shah and IRI periods. The top mullahs don't give a fuck about religion.

Let me give you an example: You are flipping burgers and get demotivated. I decide to use religion to motivate you to flip burgers better, but let's say you see through my ruse? Then I'll just get rid of you because you are completely disposable.

You are either low-class scum or a LARPer.

Point is, the elites don't give a shit about religion. They use it as a tool to manipulate retarded masses like you, which most Iranians aren't.

Social control mechanisms are necessary in every society.

>>130363502
>>130365969
Kartir Hangirpe was not that different from Khomeini. What's your opinion on Kartir Hangirpe, the guy who ordered for Mani to be killed? He didn't give a shit about Zoroastrianism. He codified the religion to better manipulate peasant shit.

In all societies, classism is absolute. I don't give a shit about the religion so long as I can eat my khorma and tea in peace. All the plebs can go die to protect me, and I'll use whatever propaganda to manipulate them whether in the name of Ohrmazd or Allah.

>>130366432
eat my khorma and drink tea in peace*
as the peasant shit die in our expansionist wars under delusion. I don't get my hands bloody, I'll let the retarded masses do it to gain more power.

>>130365298
I'm not sure how much of the petro dollar is just a result of the US being the number 1 oil consumer, and how much is because the dollar is just a more stable currency than mideastern and Venezuelan currencies. Iran could sell in rubles, euros, bitcoins or whatever, and they might have an ability to effect the petro dollar, but not significantly.

But say I'm wrong here, and Iran breaks the petro dollar, in that unlikely occurrence, I don't see an Iranian nation that gathers in huge numbers to chant for American deaths getting along with those same Americans who they just weakened control of the oil economy by breaking the petro dollar.

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>>130366432
>You are a fucking LARPer being paid by some shady group to destroy our public image as some kind of psyops. Your shitty images are enough proof of that.
It's time to take off your tinfoil hate and to leave your maman's basement
>Like I've said, I know high-profile Iranian mullahs and am upper-class from both Shah and IRI periods. The top mullahs don't give a fuck about religion.
LMAO sure you are, sure :^)
That's why you live in the US like an absolute disgrace and have never lived in Iran, are completely disconnected from Iranian culture, and larp as a dead civilization from 1400 years ago.
>You are either low-class scum or a LARPer.
Top kek you are really insecure
>Point is, the elites don't give a shit about religion. They use it as a tool to manipulate retarded masses like you, which most Iranians aren't.
Oh yeah I'm sure :^)

>>130366636
The FED is being undermined by the growth of decentralized cryptocurrency market. They have been going apeshit lately and trying to pass a bill to regulate cryptocurrencies, but it won't work.

The age of central banks is coming an end and the petrodollar will become irrelevant. We're moving more towards a libertarian world in general as Nick Land argues. Everything is all about economic growth.

And Iranians do that due to past geopolitical exploitation and being rivals. Iran is more on the side of Eurasian Economic Union and Shanghai Cooperation Council, both, which are economic rivals with Gulf Cooperation Council, Israel, and USA. We can be on civil terms but not friends. Iran will probably open itself more to Russia in the future, many Russian tourists go there too. Also, EU may get closer to our sphere.

Granted, with the growth of decentralized cryptocurrencies, these alliances will end as a worldwide free for all neoliberal capitalist game, kinda like a movement to ancap.

>>130366920
Just enlist in the army and go die protecting our borders in the Persian Gulf. Low class scum like you only exists as disposable pawns to ensure I live a happy life. I have no moral scruples from you dying.

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>>130367189
Ok Mohsen Diasporazadeh. Come to Iran then and say this stuff. We'll be happy to schedule your execution for you.
>to ensure I live a happy life
You live in the west, and have never lived in Iran because your parents fled in disgrace because their precious pro western puppet got btfo by the Iranian people. Top kek that you think you are in any way relevant and have any connection to Iran at all.
If the Iranian government had their way you would be executed, just like the rest of your parents kind who didn't flee were.

>>130367659
Whatever, you're not Iranian. You're not fooling me.

And yeah, I have a very wealthy family in Iran from my dad's side -- they've maintained wealth during all empires/stages.

Really, none of the high-class mullahs give a shit about religion. Their kids live more degenerately than the Westerners.

Anyways, nothing I say gets through to you because there's something crucial you're hiding, and no, I don't have a tinfoil hat because I have never spoken to an "Iranian" like you.

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>>130368038
>Whatever, you're not Iranian. You're not fooling me.
Says the guy who has never lived in Iran lmao
>And yeah, I have a very wealthy family in Iran from my dad's side -- they've maintained wealth during all empires/stages.
If your dad was pro shah he got all his assets in Iran seized after the revolution.
But that's why you're a kaffir diasporafag who has always lived in the west right? :^)
>Really, none of the high-class mullahs give a shit about religion. Their kids live more degenerately than the Westerners.
Kek proofs? And they're called Rouhani's you disgraceful little swine. You just proved you know nothing about Iran.
>Anyways, nothing I say gets through to you because there's something crucial you're hiding, and no, I don't have a tinfoil hat because I have never spoken to an "Iranian" like you.
Because you've never spoken to an Iranian kek.

>>130368592
That's not how the revolution worked. None of their assets were seized...

You're a fucking idiot. You come from low-class swine. You're like a redneck hick in the USA. None of the middle or upper class Iranians speak like you.

Either that, or you're LARPing.

>>130347357
fpbp

Iran is the only one who can SAVE the West

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>>130368975
They have no intention of saving the west.

>>130368592
did you vote for rouhani or the other guy? are you disappointed rouhani won? cos he seems kinda moderate and you seem more hard-line.

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>>130347227
No

Israel is a thread to the west, with 150 nuclear missiles in range of all European cities.

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>>130369448
If they take out Israel once they have nukes they'll have saved us whether they wanted to or not

>>130370005
>thread
*threat

>>130369448
Jewmerica is not the west, it's the disease of the west.

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>>130347855
Ironic but true. It's the truth. Andrew Anglin was recently endorsing Jeremy Corbyn. (Not as a joke either. And yes, Cornyn was the better choice. Corbyn wanted to go after Saudi funded mosques.

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>>130368889
>That's not how the revolution worked. None of their assets were seized...
That's exactly how it worked. Everyone who as executed or blacklisted by the government got their assets seized. Confirmed for retard who knows nothing about Iran.
>You're a fucking idiot. You come from low-class swine. You're like a redneck hick in the USA. None of the middle or upper class Iranians speak like you.
You know nothing about me or Iranians in general. You are a kaffir who has lived his entire life in the west, the US of all places, completely detached and disassociated with Iran. I wouldn't be surprised if you and your parents are blacklisted as well, which is why you're a larping faggot who wouldn't dare return to Iran.
>>130369544
Rouhani. And no I'm not hard-line I would be considered a moderate in comparison to hard liners.

>>130347227
No Iran isn't a threat. Israel, Saudi Arabia and USA are

>>130347227
No

>>130363605
yeah... USA started to sell Iran arms way into the conflict... the munitions was not high tech and it was a one time deal with not so much volume (because of political backlash)

Meanwhile, Iraq had Soviet tanks, Italian grenades, German chemicals, US intelligence & high tech munition...

Iran was selling its oil for cents on dollar... and nobody was buying it.

anyways, my original point was:
Iran in its worst shape, defended its territory against a very brutal invasion... Now, it is going to be much much harder for anyone to invade its territory... especially for a not regional country with crazy logistic problems of inter-continental support.

Any conventional conflict with Iran should involve the Persian Gulf countries... that will subject them to possibility of being blitz to shit in response

Any conventional conflict with Iran wouldn't make sens... just like any conventional invasion of Russia from the eastern European countries, only will open them up for retaliation and invasion by Russia

So, let's confront these chicken hawks who don't want to let you know USA has already reached it's dept of strategical power inside of Syria!
Syria is the furthest they will ever reach before everything back fire on them

Iraq is now being run by Iranian backed Shia militia

Do people here like Iran for any reason other than they said mean things about Israel and America?

>>130370538
No, my uncles do own big firms in Iran... You're the low-class scum that is only repeating propaganda that's primarily used to make you disposable pawns.

>I wouldn't be surprised if you and your parents are blacklisted as well
Lol, you wish.

>>130371298
And I'm a chef at wendy's with a 12 inch cock making $800k a year

>>130370096
When they say death to America, they are referring to the West. They are referring to western culture that their subjects will embrace as much as they are allowed and then some. They are referring to western freedoms that are anathema to muslim submission, even though their subjects silently crave for freedom. The only reason they say death to America is because we ARE the west. Don't think you are accepted by these barbarians, they hate you to, if you are a westerner.

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>>130371005
To be honest... I don't like the government of Iran... don't like the Islamic culture in Iran now. For sure don't want that in my country
But for us in the west, we shouldn't give a shit about their way of life... if we want to invade them and install Jeffersonian democracy for them, it is not gonna work... it is going to be a wast of time.

If you ask are they going to be a danger to the west; because of nuke and stuff like that...I don't know... I don't run the west... that's the CIA analysts problem

I personally think they are being given too much attention... they still don't have a strategic bomber that can reach America... They even don't have long range ballistic missiles that reaches UK.

They have signed a very comprehensive deal with the west... They are ready to play ball.

As long as we have freedom of speech and can criticize Islam... they can't take us on...

USA:
#1 problem = illegal aligns
#2 problem = black criminality and destruction of metropolitan ares by them

Iran shouldn't be in number 100 list of problem!

>>130355174
Things were better with the Shah, but he abandoned his nation while his opponent came out of exile to fight for Iran to not being a western puppet.

>>130371005
That isn't reason enough?
>>130371547
>their subjects silently crave for freedom
Stop projecting.

>>130348299
You meant to say imputiny

Fuckwit

>>130372003
Learn English before you post
>>130372467
No, I like America, because I'm not a self hating faggot

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>>130372003
>#1 problem = illegal aligns
They have just as much a right to live in the US as you do.
>#2 problem = black criminality and destruction of metropolitan ares by them
Whites are criminals too. It has to do with being poor, not their race.
But blacks have been kept in poverty by white people which is why some of them resort to extreme measures to feed their families and themselves. Kys
>>130371298
Forgot to call you out on this lie
>my uncles do own big firms in Iran
The government owns all firms in Iran. But nice try at larping

>>130370876
We have reached close to our strategic limits in Syria only because our resolve is not strong. We are capable of much more, just not willing.

This would be the case if we invaded Iran as well. It would take a major provocation from the Iranians to bring us to war, but we would have the capacity to utterly destroy them as a military force. Only we would not be able to hold it because we would lose interest shortly after, and Iran would come under the sway of some other countries proxy armies, just like Iraq did and Afghanistan will as soon as we leave.

>>130371547
>even though their subjects silently crave for freedom.
You have no freedom. Most Americans live with crazy mortgage, overwork, and other crap. Also, the media bombards them with socially deviant subliminal messages prior to periods of economic downturn as I've explained.

Anyways, I know Iran has its own problems, but fix your own shit first. Decentralized cryptocurrency can help weaken the hold of the corrupt Jew-infested FED.

>>130372323
The Shah lost power largely due to the USA and UK.

The revolution was due to two things:

1) The USA and UK became tired of the Shah because he was trying to become ringleader of OPEC and was hiking oil prices during a period of economic downturn in USA and UK. Since William E. Simon's petrodollar deal with Saudi Arabia in 1974, the USA and UK increasingly grew dissatisfied with the Shah, who Simon called a "nut". There are declassified CIA documents that call the Shah megalomaniac and had to have his power stripped.

2) Near the end of the Shah's reign, he began improving the country, with the White Reforms, but by then it was too late in the eyes of Iranians who felt oppressed by his SAVAK forces. Many Iranians were beguiled by Utopian socialist ideals, and the UK recognized this. Using their propaganda outlet of BBC, they began giving Khomeini a platform and having his speeches play on radio for Iranians to grow more anti-Shah.

Carter backed Khomeini, calling him a saint, also, and it was a part of the Anglo-American hegemonic strategy to oust the Shah. Eventually Khomeini became rogue.

Most Iranians felt tricked.

3) Overall, I'd say the revolution was due to two things: 1) USA/UK growing dissatisfied with Shah due to oil/petrodollar economics, 2) Iranians being brainwashed by leftist propaganda spread by the West in order to open way for Khomeini taking over.

This is a rather interesting post as I speak ______ but not everybody speaks ______ so please type in English

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>>130371547
>When they say death to America, they are referring to the West.

No they're not, or they would be saying "death to Europe".

We Europeans haven't had a single war with Iran in 1000 years, or a terror attack, or anything of that sort. If you attack Iran while Bosnia, Albania, Turkey, Israel and Saudi Arabia still exist (thanks to America!), you are nothing but a shill.

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>>130372467

>>130350207
I'd ask him why he was in someones country occupying it.

>Go to someones country and plant a military base
>Get BTFO by the people
>WTF WE DINDU NUFFIN

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>>130372719
Once again, I'm not sure how people can easily predict US is going to be able to destroy Iran in a short time with no problem what so ever...

there is Hollywood style "America fuck yeah" day dreaming... while there is also reality

in a one on one fight to death (conventional) yes... US can inflict tremendous damaged, but Iran can also destroy US bases and interest in its immediate neighborhood.

US can destroy its economy in the process too... but the question is: Why?

There is no reason to do it!
At least, US should wait for the next couple of years until the shell oil production improves and US doesn't need middle eastern oil

Iran knows that it will get destroyed... they have already tried for non-confrontational means of normalizing relationship with the US

A conflict with Iran is very very bad for Iran... and at the same time a little detrimental for the west too... with no definite winner... everybody is a loser in a war m war with Iran.

>>130373498
The USA is not democratic. It is rigged. How blue-pilled can you be?

Think tanks and their sponsors largely determine the trajectory of US geopolitical decisions. The deep state makes it to where both Conservatives and Liberals largely follow the same foreign and domestic policies.

Congress and presidency have been deligitimized with the growth of FED's role, think tanks plus their sponsors, and private sector. I actually think the private sector is the least evil because it only focuses on maximizing profit margin rather than ensuring the value of a fiat currency, via keeping petrodollar system afloat, which we can move past with cryptocurrency.

>>130355174

We were better off with Mosaddegh. Until the autsitic UK and UK faggots fucked it up.

>>130373766
China would defend Iran because both are investing a lot into one another's technological sector. China has a lot to lose if Iran becomes a failed state or splinters from US intervention.

>>130373914
I think Iran is fine so long as it continues increasing ties with SCO and EEU.

>>130372696
You are just retarded

>>130347227
>try Iranian food today
WTF I love Iran now!

50% of the population of Iran is under 30, secular, and is basically pro-West. It's them who we should be reaching out to. They'd make far better allies than Saudi fucking Arabia.

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>>130373939
even if china doesn't defend Iran...
why should USA destroy a third of its economy... stop the wave of human development for at least 10 years.... just to show they can destroy a country???
We know US can destroy a country already!
What is a upside of US (or the NATO) attacking Iran?

>>130356551
It actually is.

>>130374337
The USD's value is largely determined by oil-rich countries in OPEC transacting oil in USD and pricing it in a way that benefits US economy.

Iran does not want to comply to US petrodollar system.

One way to end this is to end fiat currencies and central banks and transition to decentralized cryptocurrency. This can end the whole fiasco, really.

>>130347227
They're more domestic than Arabs.

>tfw no secular Iran with major population of non Abrahamic religions (like Zoroastrians for example)

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>>130374143
>secular, and is basically pro-West
Lmao
>>130374062
t. white trash
>>130373177
Quite the dumb westerners perception. It happened because the people were sick of the Pahlavi's being secular pro western trash who were forcefully trying to westernize Iran and destroy Islam. So we revolted and took our country back.

>>130374710
>Quite the dumb westerners perception. It happened because the people were sick of the Pahlavi's being secular pro western trash who were forcefully trying to westernize Iran and destroy Islam. So we revolted and took our country back.
Oh, just shut the fuck up, dahati. You are literal trash/scum who doesn't understand any higher tier of thought.

The revolution, like many others throughout all of fucking history, happened due to many factors. It wasn't due to Iranians hating to be "Westernized".

Honestly, you are basically the USA's equivalent of redneck trash, or most likely a shill LARPing as an Iranian to destroy our public image.

>>130374493
>>130374337
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/072915/how-petrodollars-affect-us-dollar.asp

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>>130374916
>Oh, just shut the fuck up, dahati. You are literal trash/scum who doesn't understand any higher tier of thought.
Funny. I go to one of the top schools in the world in one of the most difficult fields, while you live in your moms basement full of delusions.
>The revolution, like many others throughout all of fucking history, happened due to many factors. It wasn't due to Iranians hating to be "Westernized".
That's exactly what it was due to. But you've never lived in Iran or talked to an Iranian so you wouldn't know. You just grew up believing whatever your diasporapoo parents told you.
>Honestly, you are basically the USA's equivalent of redneck trash, or most likely a shill LARPing as an Iranian to destroy our public image.
Nice self projection

Not as bad as the Saudis

>>130373396
>We Europeans haven't had a single war with Iran in 1000 years, or a terror attack, or anything of that sort. If you attack Iran while Bosnia, Albania, Turkey, Israel and Saudi Arabia still exist (thanks to America!), you are nothing but a shill.

I'm not denying other countries are evil, this thread is about Iran, and there are people on Pol willing to dickride iran just because they hate the jews. The enemy of your enemy isn't necessarily your friend. As a non American westerner, how comfortable would you feel if you were sent to Iran for two weeks without an armored car and security detail to visit as many Iranians as possible. I'd say you would be more likely to return home from KSA than iran, although the odds wouldn't be great.

The Lebanon hostage crisis was an Iranian terrorist attack on Western Europeans within the last 100 year.

>>130375692
>I'd say you would be more likely to return home from KSA than iran, although the odds wouldn't be great.
You're a shill. Just watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2LEgowbzSc

gtfo, schlomo

>>130375692
Support doesn't mean you have to stick your dick in the ant hill. Fucking Americans can't leave anything alone.

Iran is the only big player who stands up to Israel (which is why US foreign policy is so anti-Iran) and doesn't just keel over in front of them like most of the Arab countries do. they're not a realistic threat to the US.

>>130373939
China would stay out of it. They have too much money invested and loaned to US to risk jeopardizing that.

>>130374337
Preventing Iran from getting nukes would be a pretty big upside.

>>130376252
Iran has been getting closer to SCO in the recent months.

China would defend Iran, even a general said it.

Just stick to your GCC allies because that's working out great. I mean sure they are spreading Wahhabism/Salafism via mosques and madrassa schools and radicalizing Sunnis into doing terrorist attacks on your soil, but ultimately, you care more for the petrodollar and hypocritically complaining about Iran's human rights while cozying with the Gulf Arabs.

I mean, let's just forget about 9/11 which KSA orchestrated and funded while obsessively fixating on Iran...

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>>130375784
>posting the same cherrypicked video over and over again
lel
>>130376098
Because Iran has the only islamic government in the middle east, and so we will call out those who oppress and carry out acts of injustice against our fellow muslim brothers and sisters, while the western controlled governments who oppress their own people just look the other way. We were just like those other countries before 1979

>>130376554

we didn't stop Israel from illegally obtaining nukes. why should we prevent Iran from developing nukes? why don't they have the right to develop the weapons their nearby adversaries are using? either penalize Isreal too and sanction it until it lets international inspectors come scope out their nukes, or let them both develop their own nukes. be consistent.

>>130376554
There's no evidence Iran was ever making nukes, schlomo. Iran only wants ballistic missiles for deterrent purposes but the USA's leaders keep complaining about it.

Anyways, the USA is now supporting Islamic Marxist terrorists MEK/NCRI, who're even worse than the current regime with their crazy cult mentality and gassing Iran's own citizens.

The USA literally has no reason to dislike Iran beyond petrodollar dynamics.

>>130347227

No, Saudi Arabia is

Iran is based for the fact that they are Anti-Globalist, Anti-West, Anti-Degeneracy, and are the frontlines against Wahhabi terrorism in the region

They may not necessarily be our friend, but they certainly are not our enemy whatsoever

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>>130376734
Salafists aren't inherently terrorists you dumb retard. But some of them do get brainwashed by wahhabists and are cozy with them while sunni's have nothing to do with them.
>I mean, let's just forget about 9/11 which KSA orchestrated and funded while obsessively fixating on Iran...
Iran has supported Osama Bin Laden in his war against the west, and has granted Al Qaeda soldiers wanted by the saudi government asylum and safe passage to Afghanistan. No one hates the west more than us. Hating the white kuffar is a matter of pride for us.
The only shill here is you

>>130377293

>Hating the white kuffar is a matter of pride for us

this type of rhetoric is why there are still a significant number of neocons in this country who want to see your country get carpet bombed or nuke. tone it down a bit plz

>>130377293
Those pics seem like something the JIDF would hand out to give a bad image of Iran. Also, you're way of talking is very suspicious.

>>130377615
>to see your country
He's not Iranian. Like I've said, I caught him in numerous inconsistencies in the past.

>>130377677
>you're way of talking is very suspicious
your way of talking is very suspicious*

>>130377293
Salaam, can I get a quick rundown on what you think of Khamenei?

My grandpa was Tudeh and was in prison with him and Rafsanjani says he was a funny guy but an ass politically

>>130371547
No. They are refering to interviening zionist murrican policies that are unstabilazing the 3world. Deat to that. A kongresman said that usa should arm isis against Iran.

>>130376845
I'm more concerned with nukes in the hand of people who have chanted for the death of my country.

>>130378006
The leaders said it's meant to be symbolic and designated to foreign policy makers of the USA, not the actual citizens.

Consider how KSA were the guys behind 9/11. Iranians aren't the ones actually attacking and killing Americans on their soil, retard.

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>>130377615
Bring it on. The only thing that would do is unite the muslim world and ignite the final holy war which would bring forth the return of Imam Mahdi and Prophet Isa (Jesus), which would lead us to the day of judgment.
Also I would love to see the west go up in flames as a result of an attack like that.
>>130377677
I got it straight off Imam Khamenei's facebook page. If anything the JIDF would be trying to ignite sectarian flames instead of uniting muslims against the west, which is exactly what Imam Khamenei was saying there, but keep crying you pro western diasporashit we wuzzing larper.

>>130351156
> those images
> bad mouthing iran
> saying iran is arab and islamist
Yeah ok.. I'm quesing that you are that canadas hindu/paki

>>130351156
> those images
> bad mouthing iran
> saying iran is arab and islamist
Yeah ok.. I'm quesing that you are that canadas hindu/paki

>>130377677
No it's from english.khamenei.ir

>>130377929
They have been screaming death to America since they went primative in 79, long before isis.

>>130347227
No. Only the Jews hate it.

>>130378226
No, your type of propaganda is very advanced. You portray yourself as a radical who wants the West gone, trying to fit into people preconceived notions of what Iranians would be, so that way readers would think all Iranians are backwards and no different than Wahhabists. It's a kind of topsy-turvy propaganda, but I can see right through your scheme.

only a jew can pull off something this cunning. Your goal is to make Iranians seem just as crazy as House of Saud by saying the most batshit extremist stuff and then denying it, repeating it over again like a machine rather than actually get into rhetoric.

I know you were briefed by some shadowy organization on how to do this, but there is no nuanced or depth to what you say. I doubt, for example, you even read Mulla Sadra or the Ifran aspects of Shia.

It's not really about this apocalyptic fetish, like Robert Spencer the Jew argues, like many people who are not involved in the culture think. In other words, you are most certainly one sly Jew, I am 100 percent certain now.

>>130378422
>Khamenei says the “aim of the slogan is not death to American people. The slogan means death to US policies and arrogance.” The slogan has “strong support” In Iran, he said.

http://nypost.com/2015/11/03/death-to-america-does-not-mean-death-to-americans-ayatollah-clarifies/

Just shut the fuck up already, kike.

>>130378422
That has nothing to do with the people and western culture though

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>>130377924
Salam dadasham, farsi balade?
>My grandpa was Tudeh and was in prison with him and Rafsanjani says he was a funny guy but an ass politically
Very cool!
>can I get a quick rundown on what you think of Khamenei?
That is a pretty broad question. Do you have any questions on what I think of him on specific topics? Overall I think he was probably the best possible successor to Imam Khamenei (ra) and is very based and a great leader/role model for muslims everywhere. I can only hope his successor will be as based as him, but I know Imam Khamenei will pick the right successor.
>>130377726
You're not Iranian
>>130378348
Are you that Afghan who constantly makes those cringe diaspora threads?
Also where did I bad mouth my country? And I never said we are Arab I said there is no difference.
>and islamist
100% true
>>130378652
Quite the tinfoil hat conspiracy. It's time to leave your basement and get some sun light.

>>130378226
>Bring it on. The only thing that would do is unite the muslim world and ignite the final holy war which would bring forth the return of Imam Mahdi and Prophet Isa (Jesus), which would lead us to the day of judgment.

wait i thought the mahdi already came back, and it was in sudan?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdist_Sudan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ahmad

or is your mahdi gonna be the "real" mahdi? also, don't the ISIS guys believe something about a final holy war and impending day of judgment? how's that working out for them? about to lose raqqa and mosul? you want to share the same fate?

>>130378900
Bale, baladam :D

Politically speaking, I agree with his rhetoric and foreign policy stances on many things; however, I hear vehement accusations of political corruption on his part from my family in Iran (although I can not find more on what they say here as I don't have access to the sources they have).

What do you think of his economic work? Has he done a good job of pushing toward urbanization and reducing poverty?

>>130376554
They deserve nukes so they can tell your parasitic burgerfat ass to fuck off.

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>>130378900


Indo-Aryan is the correct term.

Indo-European is the Kike rewrite.

>>130378006
Israel? Literally kill yourself right here and now.
America? It is perfectly normal and acceptable for them to want you dead. YOU EARNED IT YOU FUCKING RAPIST.

>>130379118

by what law is Iran's acquisition of nukes illegal? why are israel and pakistan and india allowed to have nukes without sanctions but not sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty?

>>130379115
Black Shi'ism is better than Red Shi'ism. Ali Shariati was a fucking idiot.

The Safavid Empire was in continuity with both our Pre-Islamic and Post-Islamic past.

>>130378222
Even if I believed such an obvious lie, I would still be more concerned with people who "symbolically" chanted for my nation's death, getting a nuke than those who haven't.

You seem to be having a little trouble keeping all your lies straight, but the question this was about was why shouldn't Iran get nukes when Israel does, it wasn't about KSA. But since I pity the ignorant, I'll indulge your response. The moment Iran gets a nuke, KSA will get one shortly after, most likely purchased from the pakis. The saudis are not about to let Iran become more powerful than them, and a saudi nuke will almost be as big a destabilizing threat as an Iranian one.

>>130347227
yes


2500 years ago

>>130379613
I gave you a quote, you idiot:

"Khamenei says the “aim of the slogan is not death to American people. The slogan means death to US policies and arrogance.” The slogan has “strong support” In Iran, he said."

http://nypost.com/2015/11/03/death-to-america-does-not-mean-death-to-americans-ayatollah-clarifies/

Iran does not want to kill innocent US civilians. Hell, Iran protected Christian Armenia from Shia Azerbaijan's aggression. Wrap your mind around that, dumbass.

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>>130378782
Not all american people are bad. America is a very diverse country, and has muslims, good progressive whites who are tolerant and supportive of muslims, and also great black figures such as Malcolm X and other minorities and oppressed people of color.
He means it is wrong to generalize all americans as the stereotypical white right wing islamophobic racist, which is who the US government represents.
>>130378946
The mahdi will return when it is time to usher in the day of judgment. He has not yet returned but we patiently await for the return of our wonderful Imam.
Also ISIS aren't muslims. They are the enemy of muslims.
Even our wonderful prophet Mohammad (saw) foretold that a group like ISIS would emerge masquerading as muslims, and would be the greatest enemy of muslims.

>>130379422
Sorry misread. You're cool.
>>130379613
This is why people with international relations degrees should be shot no matter what they've done or haven't done.
>death to US policies and arrogance
You first, Saudilarper.

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>>130379056
>Bale, baladam :D
Mashallah :D
>Politically speaking, I agree with his rhetoric and foreign policy stances on many things
I am glad to hear that
>however, I hear vehement accusations of political corruption on his part from my family in Iran (although I can not find more on what they say here as I don't have access to the sources they have).
There is political corruption in Iran, but is mostly due to the internal structure of the government. For instance, there are some Rouhani's and people in the government who have become corrupt with power, and who extort that power for their own personal gain. These people are bad muslims though and I don't think it would be fair to let them represent all the good muslims. But it would be impossible to know exactly who these people are, and as such it would be impossible to weed them out unless the current government structure was completely torn down and rebuilt.
But that is just human nature and corruption is found in every part of the world and in every government. So while it is unfortunate it is just the reality of human nature.
>What do you think of his economic work? Has he done a good job of pushing toward urbanization and reducing poverty?
I think it is a big improvement in comparison to the shah who kept all the wealth to himself and his western buddies. At least now the wealth is in the hands of the people, and despite the fact that Iran has faced heavy sanctions due to standing up to western imperialism/influence, I think the economy is doing well with all these factors accounted for.
But the economy is more in the hands of the president. He just needs Khamenei's approval, but the president still comes up with most of the decisions relating to the economy.

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>>130347227
Nope never was never will be.Our threat was and is still the Mexican invasion.

>>130380041
Yes very big improvements from the Shah era, namely in poverty reduction, automobile production, education, literacy, and health. Even in the face of countless and drastic sanctions, Iran has managed to keep economic optimism.

I still remember when the rial took that sudden hit in '12 though, I was visiting family and went to buy some hookah Tobacco, and the price was like 2x what it used to be as was such with many other goods and commodities

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>>130380107

Correct.

Europe is being flooded with Muslims and North Africans.
America is being flooded with Mexicans, and we already had the Blacks.
Canada is getting Chinese and Indians.
Australia is getting Chinese and Indians.

It doesn't matter what Western Nation you are, Jews will be flooding our Nation with some type of Non-Whites.

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>>130347227
Yes, Iran needs to be wiped off the map. The fuck is this shilling on here

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>>130380588
>Iran needs to be wiped off the map

t. Israel proxy

>>130379705
Listen genius, a nuke is not going to make a distinction between my people and my country's policies. It will destroy both, you can't have the death of one without the death of the other. By the way, I wish for the death of every Iranian policy, can we be friends? Didn't think so.

How well would I fare if I went and toured across Iran as an American by myself and unarmed? Probably about as well as if I did the same in Somali. This is a good measure of whether I want a country to have nukes or not, or if I want immigrants from there or not.

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>>130380220
If only other muslim countries developed and improved then those sanctions would have no impact on Iran.
But of course the west is going to keep bombing muslim countries in order to keep muslim countries destabilized and from developing, and yet they wonder why terrorism and anti western sentiment exists. It's quite understandable that the west is to blame for all problems the muslim world faces today imo.
>>130380588
Nice pahlavi propaganda pics. Stuff like that is exactly why the revolution happened.

>>130380762
I gave you this video already:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2LEgowbzSc

Also, an Australian woman traveled in Iran and felt extremely safe. Trying to find the article for that again.

>>130379705
Christians are people of the book dumbass. It is in accordance of the holy qur'an to protect them, and Azerbaijan is one of if not the most secular muslim country in the world. They're hardly muslims.

>>130380874
Lol right? Pro-cia-plant-Shah Americans who don't know anything about Iran cherry pick images of some upper-middle-class university students (uni was an immense privilege then) but disregard the millions who lived in rural poverty.
>m-muh economically privileged women without hijabs, Iran btfo

>>130380762
There are a lot of solo female travelers in Iran:

http://www.mywanderlust.pl/solo-female-travel-in-iran/

"So, that’s more or less my experience with solo female travel in Iran. I really enjoyed it, felt very safe for all the time and can only recommend it to everyone! If you think of visiting Iran now is the time to go as the country and especially its politics is changing and soon might become just another tourist destination. And you don’t want to miss the real Iran!"

A female traveling solo in Saudi Arabia would most likely get raped!

>>130380762
>>130380948
>>130381039
"While the angry mobs might well exist, I never encountered them. And neither has any traveler that I’ve heard of. Instead, similar to all travelers, American and European alike, I was taken away by how friendly, welcoming, and hospitable the Iranians are. Many people I talked to wanted to visit the US. This just shows that Iran is another case in point not to too hastily equate the people with its government’s views."

https://matadornetwork.com/life/traveled-iran-solo-woman-myths-found-seriously-need-debunking/

Lots of women travel in Iran solo and they are safe. It's one of the safest countries in the world and such. They'd probably be raped in Saudi Arabia though.

>>130373588
they were asked to come by Lebanon you witless shitstain. they were there as peacekeepers

>>130380762
>>130381039
>>130381141
Here is one more solo-female traveling in Iran:

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-advice/travellers-stories/theres-no-way-all-the-people-there-are-bad/news-story/aa1367077ce3d09c25e890e8381947f3

“I felt much safer in Iran as a solo woman than I have in plenty of other places.”

Now go fuck yourself, schlomo piece of shit.

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>>130381258
“I felt much safer in Iran as a solo woman than I have in plenty of other places.”

Sources:
>>130381223
>>130381141
>>130381039

>>130381223
>>130380676
What are you sand nigger pieces of shit even doing in the US?

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>>130347227
if the west is the homelands of the merchants
Iran is the most redpilled country on earth
why do you think Israel hates them so much
as much as I hate Obama
giving Iran nukes keeps Israel sitting uncomfortably

once you've been through all the conspiracy theories
you know who really runs most of the world

>>130381391
>doesn't address anything the post said, goes for adhom and a red herring

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>>130380948
>>130381039
>>130381141
>>130381223
So you're going to cherrypick a blogpost and an edited propaganda video and pass it off as the norm? You're not doing these people any favors in the event they go to Iran with a false perception and get into serious trouble.
>>130381028
I don't know if you're trying to be sarcastic but that is 100% true. And even most upper class people were still heavily islamic, and what you're posting are a small minority of them. You're cherrypicking the cherrypicked.
Those are cherry picked, and were government propaganda. People would see basically naked women on billboards and get their blood boiled. It's what fueled the anti western sentiment and why the people went so extreme as to giving Khomeini the keys to the country. He promised to protect us from the west and to make sure they never try that disgusting westernization shit again. It's why the west has 0 influence in Iran today.

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>>130380874
>>130381027
t. Kike Shill

Show your Flag, "Iranian".

>>130381391
Go suck schlomo's dick a bit more.

Shit is more complicated than your atrophied brain, from one too many burgers, can comprehend. Go listen to some more nu-metal or watch some more Jewlywood shit as you jerk off to barbie dolls with fake titties.

>>130381588
see >>130381618

>>130381588
>You're not doing these people any favors in the event they go to Iran with a false perception and get into serious trouble.
See, this is why I know you're not Iranian and part of a psyops to smear our country's reputation. I've been to Iran many times and know many Westerners who have visited. Our country is noted for having hospitable people in the non-Baloch and non-Khuzestan areas.

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>>130381618
>>130381642
see >>130352552
>>130381707
>I've been to Iran many times
TOP KEK sure you have buddy :^)
You are so insane and your parents probably are as well that I'm 95% sure you're blacklisted, or are dumb enough that you have traces of your views on social media.
>and know many Westerners who have visited. Our country is noted for having hospitable people in the non-Baloch and non-Khuzestan areas.
Top kek is that what your maman and baba told you? How cute.

>>130381638
>>130381588
>>130381638
Islamic influence in your country is too prevalent. You bring it to the United States and fill me with hate. I hate the Jews too, but you guys are just Jews that worship Allah. I dream of the day when I can kill Persians, Semites, and Arabs in the street. You are all deep down nasty people.

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>>130352552
>I am Iranian. 4chan is blocked in Iran so you can only post with vpn.

>>130381707
>our country
>American flag
Why are you here, guy that looks like a kike but is not a kike?

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>>130381987

Cohencidence Goy.

>>130381916
Christianity and Islam are like basically the same thing, you fucking idiot.

Also, if it weren't for the Persians, the Ottomans would have run over your asses and made you all Muslims. The Safavids helped Habsburg repel the Ottomans.

>>130381997
Why don't you go jerk off more to that dead kike a bit more, knuckle-head. I burn both Korans and Bibles. I don't give a shit about Semitic filth beyond using it to manipulate the masses for my own needs/benefit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/democracy-post/wp/2017/05/16/forget-the-politics-iran-has-bigger-problems/

Less than 15 years, Iran is basically fucked

Niggas can't even take on the Saudis, how will they even touch America?

>>130382160
Always archive those
https://archive.is/HotxV

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>>130381916
>You bring it to the United States and fill me with hate
Good. America is not and has never been a white country. It's time white people pay for their crimes against humanity, and I can't wait until whites are a minority in America and other western countries. Soon the flag of Islam will be waving over the whitehouse iA
>I hate the Jews too, but you guys are just Jews that worship Allah
Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, and Muslims all worship the same god. Not sure what point you're trying to make.
>I dream of the day when I can kill Persians, Semites, and Arabs in the street. You are all deep down nasty people.
Ok
>>130381987
Well it's true. Not sure else you want me to say.
But I guess the fact that I have knowledge only an Iranian would and that I have spoken farsi to other people itt is proof enough?

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>>130381987
Also, 4chan is not blocked in Iran. I know, because we had Iranian posters here.

Fucking lying Kike, can't stop lying for a day.

>>130381166
Plenty of irish soldiers were killed by israel funded lebanese fighters, would that make israel a threat to ireland ?

>>130382323
Israel is a threat to every country in the world mate.

>>130382256
Yeah, a month or so ago. 4chan has always been blocked but for some reason if you used https it wasn't, but that's currently been patched up.

>>130382437
Right, and a couple months ago you told me that you're in the Los Angeles, USA taking classes in engineering.

You are full of shit and a liar. Your flag is USA. I know because you use the same nametag each time, and I can tell based off your posting style, which is highly annoying.

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>>130347227
Israel poses a bigger threat to my country than Iran.

>>130382549
see >>130354329
The spring quarter has ended so I came back for a bit. But I don't remember ever talking to you. Kind of creepy you stalk my posts.

>>130347227
Iran is shittier, ISIS will finish them

>>130382664
You have a reputation of being an annoying Khomeinist bastard on /int/ and /pol/. Any topic that deals with modern Iranian politics you poke your head in, almost ALL the fucking goddamn time.

This is why I believe you're being paid by some shadowy group to portray Iran in a negative light by being an Islamist fuckhead.

>>130382785
Go fuck yourself, KSA. You can't even start anything to finish because you have the mental capacity of lobotomized patients. We don't even need to do shit to kick your Gulf Arab asses.

Go Allahu Akbar while eating some more lizards, you disgusting savage piece of shit.

>>130382136
Comparing Christians to Muslims, unbelievable. I wish I could beat your ugly brown ass to a bloody pulp in real life.

>>130382664
I look forward to when you guys start thinking America is Europe. Allahu ackb- *bullet screams through your skull*

>>130347227
Iran is the only civilized muslim country tbqh

>>130382906
i will eat your mother vagina while you watch, how about that queer boy, ISIS will finish your mother pussy bc she is too horny and no man is around but me

>>130382977
i agree, christians are poop

>>130382977
thats not what wtc did

>>130383012
Your insults suck ass. Even pajeets do better. Go eat some more lizards, you ISIS-supporting retard.

>>130382977
>Comparing Christians to Muslims, unbelievable.
I probably know the history of Christianity better than you fucker. Gnosticism is, indeed, very different from modern Christianity and Islam, but modern Christianity and Islam are largely metaphysically the same with the main difference being the Incarnation and some other details.

Gnosticism is more interesting anyways, but you are too much of a fucking idiot to understand it.

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>>130382835
>You have a reputation of being an annoying Khomeinist bastard on /int/ and /pol/
So I have a reputation of being an Iranian?
>Any topic that deals with modern Iranian politics you poke your head in, almost ALL the fucking goddamn time.
Because they're always full of diasporafags and butthurt westerners trying to delegitimize Islam amongst Iranians, fuel ethnic and sectarian sentiments, and I simply step in to call them out on their shilling.
>This is why I believe you're being paid by some shadowy group to portray Iran in a negative light by being an Islamist fuckhead.
The only one trying to portray Iran in a negative light are westerners, which includes you.
>>130382906
>We
American trying to talk like he is an Iranian top kek.
>>130382977
Not sure what you're trying to say

No, as long as they stay where they belong.

>>130383181
Go eat some dicks lol