Syria General /sg/ - Emergency bread edition.

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>>130326719

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>The first batch of #YPG arrived to #AlTnaf after a #US request they were transported by air from Tal Biraq.
https://twitter.com/WaelHussaini/status/876230641137963008

Based USA.
Ass*dists and /sg/ officially on suicide watch.

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>>130346982
Yes goy eat white bread. Support the wheat-jew. do not eat other breads like rye-bread..

APOLOGISE FUCKERS

> >The first batch of #YPG arrived to #AlTnaf after a #US request they were transported by air from Tal Biraq.

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Rebel training video just got weird

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>>130347138
Kurdish genocide when

>>130347238
>eating bread at all
Nice try kike

>>130347343
Fags here were sucking kurdish cock 2 months ago, accusing Assad of working with the kurds.

Nth for Assad cucking SDF by taking Ma'aden.

>>130347138
sounds like larping

>>130347321
they wanted to get the attention of the european art class

Hit me with some gainz

>>>130346458
i mean since the burka is not very frequently almost nobody will care only some hardliners. But Hijab will cause some tension cause it is more common

>>130347551

>US: we are only there to fight ISIS, we are not toppling any regimes
>also we are now transporting Assads enemies into an area strategic to his interests and also has nothing to do with ISIS

>>130347321
jihadi David Lynch: naked moderate lunch

>>130347730
no I mean the twitter source has spread fake bullshit before, no confirmation I suppose

>>130347875

It has to be fake. Even if the masses don't understand why that is a blatently foul move the US can't slide that shit past Russia and the Eu without them noticing, surely.

BREAKING NEWS

NEW TAKFIRI TRAINING VIDEO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJGp2kth-Ec&feature=youtu.be

looks like some juicy details for geolocation, anyone in?

>>130347712
Well Yeah I can see why especially the russified elite would see that as a threat more

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Am i the only one seeing a proper leg with a boot, a wooden leg and a picasso weiner?

>>130346982
>>Raqqa: US casualties piling up to 26, extensive use of SOFs
more needs to die

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>>130348381
Woah Maghrebi, watch your edge, someone might cut themselves on it.

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guys who did that?
New flag

>>130348374
Kek

>>130346982

Time is against assad. He needs to make as many gains East as he can before the SDF finish taking Raqqa and can turn their attention south towards DeZ. I reckon Raqqa has about 14 days fighting left in it.

>>130348783
I think Assad needs to start thinking of how to attack the SDF. Its going to be the next mess with Idlib being stable.

>>130348598
Me. I'm going to do an Iranian one too.

>Heavy damage in the Rebel attack on the Blay military airfield near Damascus.

>According to the rebels, they managed to destroy 6 helicopters with a missile strike that included 40 rockets.

http://nzivnet.com/brief/8864

>a Saudi destroyer who was on an ongoing security mission off the coast of the Yemenite port of Al-Hama on the Red Sea coast, north of the Strait of Bab al-Mandev, was hit by an accurate sea-to-sea missile.

http://nzivnet.com/articles/8677

>the United States has in the past few days sent long-range missile launchers from Jordanian territory into its base near the Ta'anf crossing.

http://nzivnet.com/brief/8727

>In response to the US sending long-range missile launchers to Syria in the southeast of the country near the Tandouf crossing, Putin promised to provide the Syrian army with new weapons that would enable it to fight "terrorists" with greater force.

http://nzivnet.com/articles/8831

>Russia's State Atomic Energy Corporation (Rosatom) won approval from Turkey's energy watchdog on Thursday to go ahead with building its $20 billion Akkuyu nuclear power plant in southern Turkey.

>The project to construct four nuclear reactors has repeatedly run into delays, including being briefly halted after Turkey downed a Russian jet near the Syrian border in November 2015. Ties have since normalised between the two countries and work on the plant has resumed.

https://www.reuters.com/article/turkey-energy-nuclear-idUSL8N1JC3FL

>The Fitzgerald is badly damaged, with the starboard side of the ship's forward superstructure, right below its bridge and SPY-1 phased array radars, punched completely in.

>Seven sailors remain unaccounted for and the commanding officer of the destroyer, Commander Bryce Benson, was one of two people taken from the stricken vessel by helicopter to a nearby hospital.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/11628/destroyer-uss-fitzgerald-badly-damaged-after-collision-with-merchant-vessel

accident? kek, we ww3 now

>>130348336
Google translate says it's the al mutasim brigade, and Wikipedia says those guys hang out in Northern Aleppo

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>>130348882
>attack the SDF
ISIS first lad.

>>130348882

I have not been keeping up with Idilb. How is it stable? Did Assad cut some deal?

>>130348896
>nzivnet.com
fuuuuuuuck offff you kike

>>130349020
He needs to start thinking of the next step, which should be SDF. Not saying he should stop the current plan on ISIS terorrists.

>>130349055
there's a ceasefire, who knows how long it will last but it remained largely in tact so far

>>130349188
Besides, i doubt he knows less than you.

>>130349055
Yeah, Syria made a deal in Astana, thru Russia and iran with Turkey. They agreed on de-escalation zones and Idlib is one of them. There has been some infighting but no sort of agression towards the SAA.
I think Assad can focus on the SDF next, as even Turkey wants to get rid of them.

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>>130347343
soon

https://youtu.be/mK8Mvbp-ZpY

>>130349298
Ive been worried about the SDF since they appeared and people were jerking about the kurds being with Assad on /sg/. Of course Assad isnt dumb and he doesnt trust the kurds (no arab trusts them).
I dont trust Russia in this issue, but I trust Iran and Iraq (even Turkey should be against this).

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>>130349588

>>130346982

Oh. I asked for it a few nights ago but no-one had it. Does anyone have that photo of assad fistpumping with the map of him cutting of turk rebels from ISIS land in the background?

>>130349339

>turkey wants to get rid of SDF

They were TOO successful. It might start giving kurds in turkey unhealthy ideas.

>>130349434

https://phys.org/news/2010-10-obama-archimedes-solar-ray-legend.html

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>>130349588
>I dont trust Russia in this issue
to bad its pretty much their decision

>>130349899
Im willing to be half the SDF is turkish kurds.

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>>130349588

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>>130347321
>haram western degenerates being haram western degenerates

>>130350000
Russia isnt stupid. If they see Syria, Iran, Iraq and Turkey (plus all the arabs except Saudi) against it they would piss all those sides just to please your kurdish cousins.
Russia has worked hard to improve its image in the Middle East, making this rojava happen will make the arabs, iranians and turks curse the Russians and call them backstabbers.

>>130350214
>hurr durr
ok then bongroach

What's next for SDF after Raqqa falls?
How long until SAA reaches Deir ez-Zor?
Will Assad take Daraa?

>>130350177
M14EBR?

>>130348336
Probably made in USA

>>130350409
> What's next for SDF after Raqqa falls?
Heading towards Deir Ezzor.

>>130350424
It even says EBR Chassis Stock

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>>130350374
this thread is for arabs you fucking k*rd

>>130346982
Did trump defeat isis yet

Who is maddog mathis bombing besides cia assets

>>130350409
>What's next for SDF after Raqqa falls?
D A M A S C U S

>>130350374
No one wants your kurdistan in that neighbourhood. You fail to understand how much those countries will try and stop it and make their lives hell.

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>>130350539
snus pls

>>130350651
>hurr durr

>>130350539
T H I S

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>>130350539
>>130350613
>A swedecuck supporting the kurds
Irony

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Let us all pay our respects to the fallen in this liberation of syria.

Rest in peace Sameh Dabbas (1990 - 2017)

died today while fighting ISIS in Aleppo's countryside (17/06/2017)

Allahu Akbar

>>130350651
How do you see Syria dealing with America and their hard on to back the SDF as the meme democracy of the Middle East?

If America barely will let Syria take Al-Tanf, how do you think they'll react to what is essentially everything North of the Euphrates?

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>>130350712
>he takes that post seriously
lmao

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>>130350834

>>130350817
dumping tr*mp

>>130350214
There's UN, Hariri, Kurds, Turkey, Iran and Russia negotiating the peace deal in the end, and guess who holds all the cards?
Syria will get Lavrov'd, with Rojava as a federation, and that's if Tigers can make it in time to cut SDF off.

>>130350834
Youre too stupid to tell I was trying to trigger your kurdish genes. There arent a lot of arab posters here anyway.

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Is this the training camp in the video?
>in northern Aleppo(where the group in the video, al-mutimah or something, is based
>near a large lake where the swimming scenes could have been shot
>a lot of small trees surrounded by a road in a farm

I don't know if this is it but it could at least be in this area.

Coordinates: 36, 25, 8.46 N, 37, 14, 56.79 E(no degree symbol on my phone, sorry)

>>130350817
> How do you see Syria dealing with America and their hard on to back the SDF as the meme democracy of the Middle East?
Theyre gonna have to deal with them sooner or later. Maybe thru PMU, joint attack with Turkey or Iran. Its a headache but they currently occupy a third of Syria. I think the US has to be tested first to see how serious they are about them after Raqqa is captured.

>>130348882
He should first kick out rebels from Idlib and al Tanf. Kurds come next.

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>>130351254
>hurr durr
Are you done yet?
Where you only pretending to be retarded?

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Rare sight in Sinjar, Peshmergas with PKK, when there's a need, all Kurds oppose the common enemy.

>>130351020
good luck achmed

>>130351350
It's tilted to the left btw

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>>130349588
>people were jerking about the kurds being with Assad on /sg/
Mate stop this meme. Only like 3 persons were doing that (and one of them was the belgian kurd).

>>130351377
>Attack

How do you think they can attack though? America would just airstrike them with intensity, it has no qualms about striking even SAA regulars, especially when it can claim it's in legitimate defence of the SDF.

Turkey too, you've seen how the US (and even Russia) reacted to the threat of Turkey attacking Manbij. You can already tell they're serious about defending the Kurds. It won't be as easy as just setting loose the elite SAA forces to regain the land.

>>130351467
I'm making it bigger you retard.

>>130351145
There is absolutely no way Assad will agree about a federation as that will keep the US (Saudi and Israel possibly) there. He'd rather cut it off completely, starve them with Turkey and Iran than do that.
Having a federation with a US base would.be like having a tumour in your body and ignoring it when you have a chance to survive and remove it.
I dont see why he doesnt try and attack them, people here are into cuck porn, they just want Assad to bend over and take it.

>>130351568
The Belgian Kurd is half shitposting too. Of course he cares for Kurdish issues but you can tell with shit like his comparison image with Onur it's part of a big meme at the same time.

>>130351385
> He should first kick out rebels from Idlib and al Tanf. Kurds come next.
Not really, kurds are a more serious threat now. Idlib has been contained, it can wait and theyre already fighting each other.

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>>130351593
>it has no qualms about striking even SAA regulars
This is sad. Drumpf was a mistake. Obongo wouldn't do that.

>>130351568
> Mate stop this meme. Only like 3 persons were doing that (and one of them was the belgian kurd).
You either werent here 3 months ago or you have a shit memory. And before hasakah this place was kurd central. I avoided this place as it was full of idiots that never met a kurd before.
Look at the archives.

>>130351656
>There is absolutely no way Assad will agree
Implying that he's in position to agree. Nowadays his best option cames straight from the Kremlin, his opinion doesn't matter much.
Just watch the next rounds of Astana, and see if Bashar will be in any of these. I can even spoil, that the negotiator from Syria will be Jafaari, because he has his ways with Russian diplomacy.

>>130351656
>Having a federation with a US base
Federation does not automatically mean allowing foreign military bases in federalized territories my dude

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>You either werent here 3 months ago or you have a shit memory. And before hasakah this place was kurd central. I avoided this place as it was full of idiots that never met a kurd before.

>>130351919
> Federation does not automatically mean allowing foreign military bases in federalized territories my dude
The US will not leave without pressure or force. Assad would rather cut that area off work on it indirectly than what youre suggesting.
Anyway serves the kurds right for this, they want to steal arab land, the arabs will starve them.

>>130352034
whoops, forgot to quote >>130351904

>>130348895
Don't be an Arab and place it somewhere safe

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>>130348336
lmao!

>>130351911
You seriously think Assad can travel to Astana in this situation?
Also, Syria, Iran, Iraq and Turkey all agree on this kurdish issue. These are all regional neighbours, Russia wont risk pissing them off as they cant keep the peace when the US abandons the kurds. Russia always picks the cleanest route, and this rojava will cause a shitstorm.

>>130350374
What Kurds in Rojava don't seem to understand is that even if they get their freedom, USA will sure be the first to topple the PKK and YPG elements from Rojava and it'll turn it into a NATO outpost such as Iraqi Kurdistan. Why do you think a question of Kurdish independence in Iraq was raised in a convenient time like this?

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>>130351904
Kek, I've been here since Kweres lad. You are newer than me for a lot (and I consider myself new because I wasn't during ukraine). While its true that before Qimishli and Hasaka most /sg/ers supported kurds (including me) we got redpilled. 3 months ago there wasn't much kurd shilling, only 2-3 persons per thread - at most. Stop that meme.

>>130352101
Yeah, before Hasakah mosf people here were praising the kurds as allies of Assad. Delusional.

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>>130352034
this place started out as /kurdistan general/ you newfag!

>>130352297
> While its true that before Qimishli and Hasaka most /sg/ers supported kurds (including me) we got redpilled.
Exactly. And youre still not redpilled about the kurds.

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>>130352303
I have literally never seen "most people" shilling kurds 3 months ago, dude.

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Ooh, a playthrough of the Syria Game
Watching right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL8xOp4iSjA

>>130352228
Do you understand what federalisation means?
It's like Silesia in Poland. It's an integral part of the country, yet it has it's autonomy. You could compare it with Russian regions too, it's a federation. It doesn't mean that Rojava will decide about itself, as an entity, but rather that it will be recognized as a somewhat sovereign region of the state that is Syria.
I hope you understand, because if not I give up.

>>130352367
Well you dont have a problem with the kurdish issue as much as i do.
It would be stuff like
> "kurds arent a priority"
>"kurds are neutral"
> " theyre not rebels, theyre working with Assad"
> "Russia is working with the Rojava"
> "the kurds will get a federation"

Its like reading FSA propaganda. Just replace kurds with FSA.

>>130352046
>Assad would rather cut that area off work on it indirectly than what youre suggesting.
again we arrive at this point, assad would do this i agree but its papa pootang & uncle lavrov who call the shots now
>>130352241
iraqi mountainroach autonomy was way to extensive & completely retarded tbqh

>>130352366
>Exactly.
No, not exactly. That was more than a year ago. Nowhere near 3 months, and even then it was a minority of people that were okay with kurds at that point (not with Kurdistan or any kind of independence).

>>130352579
> "kurds arent a priority"
>"kurds are neutral"
I have never seen that.

> " theyre not rebels, theyre working with Assad"
First part is objectively true. I haven't seen second part, though.

> "Russia is working with the Rojava"
Russia is working with every party.

> "the kurds will get a federation"
That is realistically the most probable outcome, as much as we hate it. Acknowledging that does NOT mean supporting it.

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>>130352366
Exactly what? You are a retard if you think that because /sg/ regulars believed something 2 years ago means they are still wrong today.

>>130352470
> Do you understand what federalisation means?
I do understand what it means and I we are talking about the Middle east not a European country (if you can call Poland that).
Assad will not accept it, sometimes keeping land you cant control can hurt you more than benefit you. That federation will be used to attack him by his enemies. He either gains full control over it or he will blockade it with the help of the others that dont want it there. This is how arab countries work, we're not talking about some european country.

>>130352718
>That is realistically the most probable outcome, as much as we hate it. Acknowledging that does NOT mean supporting it.
This, i dont think anyone actually wants mountainroach autonomy or any concessions
The morrocan knows.

>>130352761
you're not arab your opinion doesn't matter

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>>130352875

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>>130352875

>>130352782
>we are talking about the Middle east not a European country[...]Assad will not accept it
Explain Iraqi Kurdistan

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>>130352875

>>130352718
Kurds aren't the priority though. ISIS are.

If Assad tried to liberate the land help by Kurds right now, he'd face a massive extension of his front line and a severely diminished, if not ruined, ability to carry out offensives and to effectively defend everything properly.

Imagine you took all the territory, manpower, equipment, and overt foreign support that the SDF has, and just straight away gave it to ISIS.

That would be a very dire situation for Assad now, wouldn't it?

This would be the situation you'd be sticking the SAA and Assad in, essentially, the only difference is that the sides are supposed to be fighting each other at the same time. Even with that though, you're totally destroying security for much of Syrian land, endangering further the Qamishli and Hasakah pockets, and giving the SAA one massive headache to deal with. It's simply not a smart option right now.

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>>130352761
> You are a retard if you think that because /sg/ regulars believed something 2 years ago means they are still wrong today.
You call me a retard , yet you dont even remember that Hasakah wasnt even a year ago. It happened last August 2016. Honestly, dumb burgers should just stick to call of duty and just leave the Arab World alone. Even this arrogant shit isnt helping.

>>130353090
Iraqi Kurdistan was predominantly a kurdish area (north of Syria is only less than 30% kurdish), different situation all together. Saddam had Birzani (who he thought he can trust), the current kurds in the SDF are fully in the American and Saudi camp. It would be like discussing a federation with alqaeda in Idlib.

>>130352718
Hasakah wasnt even a year ago. This is why I dont trust the memories of the people here. You know why I remember Hasakah? Becoz I know a Syrian guy who was crying becoz he lost a brother there. Just look at the archive and lay off me mate.

>>130353244
Nah, kurds are a priority as well. Not in a direct assault way, but we've seen from the race to Raqqa and Deir Ez-Zor that Assad considers them a legitimate threat and will do everything he can to stop them from getting more territory by rushing through their controlled territory borders, blocking them off.

Just by doing that, he's already using a large part of his army. I'd say Assad fights ISIS first and then equally kurds/rebels in terms of money and effort spent.

>>130353271
10 months ago is nearly a year ago, and even by then, pro-kurd opinions weren't a majority at all...

>>130353498
And I very much doubt the Kurds will call for a Kurdistan region within their controlled territory now. If they did, I'm pretty sure Assad wouldn't doubt launching a direct assault against them (and I'd fully support it 1000%).

>Saddam had Birzani (who he thought he can trust)
Saddam very well knew that Barzani couldn't be trusted, he created the Kurdistan region to stop the Kurdish civil war that was ongoing there.

filthy kh*mmie c*mmies

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>Raqqa: US casualties piling up to 26
INSHA ALLAH!
Burger get out

>>130353718
Youre an idiot if you support a kurdish federation in Syria. That would be even stupider that cutting your country in half. Kurds dont even make 30% of the people in that region pre-war.

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>>130353271
My bad, 1 year. But why don't you address my statement instead of insulting me? You haven't refute this: people here aren't shilling for kurds, its been only a few isolated cases plus the belgian kurd.

Also you kinda insult anyone that is not an arab just because they aren't arabs and stereotypize them , yet get mad when kemailsts consider you subhuman, nice mental gymnastics there.

>>130353038
stop posting her
STOP IT

>>130353718
A priority. Not THE priority. Yes, be careful with them. Yes, don't trust them. Yes, try and cut off all their attempts to steal more land.

But the Arab Nationalist literally wants Assad to attack them right now. Which is not a smart idea. ISIS first, everything else next.

Once East Homs, and East Hama are secured and cleared, then yeah, the SAA will be free to focus on other, pressing matters.

>>130353244
Of course ISIS is a priority now. After them I see the kurds as the next issue. Might as well take the chance with the ongoing Saudi-Turkey problems.

Should I keep sperging out over this camp or should I let it go?

>>130353697
>Becoz I know a Syrian guy who was crying becoz he lost a brother there. Just look at the archive and lay off me mate.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/81624313/#81625989
>Yes every male gets drafted. Only who don't have brothers don't get drafted but everyone else gets drafted. It's kinda is a good idea for now, and after I'm finishing college I'm going voluntarily since I do have a brother but he died in a car accident which makes me "wahed" which means I dont get drafted to the army but I am going to by myself

Later on, in July:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/83144936/#83178210
>I'm currently in Ba'ath Brigades and because my brother passed away I no longer get drafted to the army, but I'm planning to do so after I graduate college or maybe before, Thank you anon

Then, during Hasakah:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/86713848/#86726726
>If you're a student or don't have a brother you don't get drafted. Well sadly I'm both. My brother died 4 months ago resulting in me being wahed which means not going to get drafted

His brother didn't die in Hasakah.

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>>130353980

>>130353978
You called me a retard when youve got all your dates mixed up. I trust my memory, I dont trust yours. Look up the archives, plenty of kurdish cock sucking on /sg/ that only stopped fairly recently.

>>130354067
By the way, there's no Syrian anon apart from those posts that mentions a dead brother during that time period.

>>130353498
Don't forget that even with all the things Saddam Compromised they still chimped out because muh Kirkuk despite it even before the Arabization being mixed

How can Assad know the YPG won't do that for "muh med ocean access"

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/05/the-arab-world-has-never-recovered-from-the-loss-of-1967/
turn on private browsing/incognito to get around the paywall

>>130353888
>Youre an idiot if you support a kurdish federation in Syria.
Point out in which post I supported it.

>>130354067
> His brother didn't die in Hasakah.
Wtf are you posting??? That wasnt me or the guy im talking about, the guy I know lives in Lebanon now you dumbass.

>>130354289
I've been coming here too long. I thought for a second you had a Novorossiya flag instead of a CSA flag.

>>130354225

it's not paywalled. just click the x

Redpill me on the kurds /sg/. Why are they so based and federated?

>>130354200
>youve got all your dates mixed up.
1 date. Why do you always exaggerate and divagate? Burden of proof is with you, I say there was no kurd shilling, you are the one that needs to prove the was lots of kurd shilling, if there was so much it would be easy to prove for you.

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>>130354394
>Just look at the archive and lay off me mate.
I assume you were talking about someone on 4chan...

>>130354222
The SDF have already publicly stated they will take Idlib and Deir Ezzor with the help of the Americans. They also claimed having access to water is their right.
Retarded ? Yes. But so are ISIS terrorists, that doesnt mean Assad shouldnt take their threats seriously.

>>130353718
> I'd say Assad fights ISIS first and then equally kurds/rebels in terms of money and effort spent.
ISIS is going to be fought by Syria, by SDF, by USA, by Russia, by Iraq, by everyone.

Only Syria or Turkey would fight the SDF, and these are the new american terrorists, so better to take as much territory as possible before they take anything else. By making a corridor of Syrian troops you either force the SDF to openly fight against Assad or you leave them in a small pocket until you have the way to deal with them.

>>130354421
never mind then i'm a dumbass. in the past though i'm pretty sure there have been paywalls on all of FP's shit

>>130354437
YPG is just as bad as ISIS as far as ethnic cleansing goes.
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ru/contents/articles/originals/2015/10/syria-turkey-right-groups-accused-kurds-rojava-of-war-crimes.html

>In a 38-page report, "'We Had Nowhere Else to Go': Forced Displacement and Demolition in Northern Syria,” Amnesty International catalogues allegations of forced evictions of Arabs and Turkmens and the destruction of their homes and property. “In some cases, entire villages have been demolished, apparently in retaliation for the perceived support of their Arab or Turkmen residents for the group that calls itself the Islamic State,” Amnesty International noted. Villagers said they were ordered to leave at gunpoint, their livestock shot at. The watchdog used satellite imagery and video footage to verify the claims.


Kurds are cunts to Assyrian Christians:

rudaw.net/english/opinion/21012016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVqcmgAtjp8 [Embed]


http://1001iraqithoughts.com/2016/05/10/the-kurds-everything-you-didnt-know-the-plight-of-the-assyrians/

http://drrichswier.com/2016/04/27/exclusive-interview-assyrian-christians-battle-kurds-in-syria/

Menagh airbase siege. After the airbase fell, the survivors sought entry to the YPG controlled Afrin.
>About 70 soldiers, who managed to retreat from the base during the battle, surrendered themselves (and two tanks) the next day to Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) forces in the town of Afrin, about 15 kilometers west of the airbase.[14][31] It was later reported that the surrendered troops were from the 17th Division and the unit's senior officers were turned over by the YPG to al-Nusra in exchange for Kurdish prisoners.[32] The Islamist group then executed the officers they had received.[32][33]

Battle for Hasakah city. YPG waited until the city's garrison was almost eliminated by IS before the flanked them and conquered most of the governorate .

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>>130354617

Aleppo central prison siege. SAA was only able to supply the prison and the hospital through the YPG controlled Seikh Masqud district, until the rebels convinced YPG to forfeit their neutral status and expel SAA from Seikh Masqud.


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kurd%20arab%20war%20crimes#seen

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/thousand-of-arabs-flee-from-kurdish-fighters-in-syrias-north-10289475.html


http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/05/27/report-christian-assyrians-accuse-syrian-kurds-imposing-education-curriculum-alters-old-testament/
https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/869279046240260098
#Syria #TwitterKurds #Kurds #Kurd #Rojava Ex-#YPG foreign fighter says "YPG says Arabs are lessers" and prevents ambulances to them

>ethnic cleansing by the k*rds
http://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/N1714673.pdf

> K*urds are responsible for the displacement of 200,000 Arabs since November 2016 around Raqqa.

http://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/Raqqa%20%20sit%20rep%2026%20May%20-n6_0.pdf

>YPG: “Saudi Arabia is an important power in the region and it must play its role in promoting stability in Syria. We are ready to cooperate with Saudi”
http://www.aranews.net/2017/06/after-turkeys-decision-to-deploy-troops-in-qatar-syrian-kurds-express-willingness-to-cooperate-with-saudi-arabia/

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>>130354411
I almost put the Novorossiya flag and then I realized I was making it for /sg/.

There should probably be a Ukraine / Cold War II general on that note.

>>130354491
No! Its a guy I know in Lebanon. I personally know him. Poor guy lost his brother becoz of the kurds. He's a christian Syrian that I met there. He had to see a psychiatrist for a few months.

>>130354664


>http://independent co uk/news/world/middle-east/thousand-of-arabs-flee-from-kurdish-fighters-in-syrias-north-10289475.html
https://archive.is/yigEf

>>130354667
Sorry, then. I was confused by your initial post.

>>130354476
Why should I waste my time to search the archives because youre too lazy to do so?

>>130350214
>Russia has worked hard to improve its image in the Middle East
HAHA. Russia supporting Assad is damaging its image, not helping.

Russia went to Syria mainly for domestic support. The Russia govt wanted to show its people that Russia is strong and it fuck American's plan of world domination. That's all really. The whole Mediterranean base doesn't mean much since Russia isn't a global naval power to challenge the US in the Mediterranean. Russia getting into Syria because it's an ally and Russia is obliged? Bullshit. Syrian regime was at war since 2012. Russia intervened 3 years later.

>making this rojava happen will make the arabs, iranians

It will piss off the Turks. Iranians? Most won't like it but it's not going to be strongly opposed by Iranians. Arabs? Most Gulf Arabs won't care or will support it. Egyptians? Hard to know but they probably won't care too much. Syrian Arabs? Well most of them left the country already.

Russia isn't going to stay in the Mid East forever anyway. Neither will the US, albeit they'll stay longer. Turkey is the strongest force that'll remain as long as it exists.

>>130354666
When there's big stuff happening there it gets posted here.

We had Ukraine generals but things are too quiet for now to warrant it.

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>>130354666
>There should probably be a Ukraine / Cold War II general on that note.
Where do you think you are?

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>>130354836
So you have no proof? Thats what I thought.

>>130354840
> HAHA. Russia supporting Assad is damaging its image, not helping.
Its helping the anti-Saudi camp. Think of the Middle East right now as two camps : the Zio-saudi and the Iranian one. You have neutral countries : eg Oman, Kuwait etc. And ones that can flip eg Qatar and Turkey.
By supporting Assad, Russia has gained the trust of the Iranian camp. By pushing for this Rojava, they will lose both camps over gypsies.

>>130355062
Nah, just not worth my time just to prove to you and youll forget in a week or two.

>>130354870
Yeah, it'd have no news. Just kinda feels weird, given it doesn't directly reference the intervention in Syria.

>>130354961
The conflicts general thread obviously

>>130354437
>k*rds
>based
remove yourself macaco anencéfalo comunista

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Those are sum big gains, looks like these settlements are empty as I'd imagine the militants are all in Raqqa.

>>130355082
Also Russia becomes the savior of the world once again

>>130355445
There is this filipino nurse in Norway that spams /sg/ with filpino news. I understand Iraqi or yemeni news but paying respect for dead filpinos and jerking off Duterte quotes is pushing it.

>>130348336

Yea I'm in dude let's go for this. Let me get the laptop pen and paper. On mobile rn.

>>130355082
The Mid east is 3 camps of major players and a bunch of smaller players + neutral like Oman. There's the Saudi Israeli UAE led camp, the Turkey-Qatar camp and the Iran led camp.

>By supporting Assad, Russia has gained the trust of the Iranian camp. By pushing for this Rojava, they will lose both camps over gypsies.

Russia isn't planning some long game in the Mid East. The war in Syria is for domestic purposes. Oil prices are low, corruption is pissing off a large portion of Russians and the population feel "besieged" by the West. Russian govt got into Syria to tests its technology and boosts its domestic support. Russia, hopefully, isn't retarded enough to think it can play a signifcant role in the Middle East in the long run. Eventually they'll withdraw from the region whether they like it or not. America for all its might can't pacify or stabilize the mid East. Neither can Russia. The soviet Union already lost in the Mid East (see south Yemen in the past for example).

Russia helping Kurds is unlikely because of how much support they have with the US and pissing off Turkey too much is unwise.

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>>130355656
good

more dead commies

>>130355445
>The conflicts general thread obviously
/sg/ was known as /ug/ - Ukraine General before Russia started intervening. That's what I meant.

>>130355744
>Russia isn't planning some long game in the Mid East.
And yet they signed a 50 year lease for bases just this year

>>130355278
>youll forget in a week or two
Lmao. So you couldn't stand up with your argument and are now focusing on the small mistake I made. You are paranoic, just how you accused that moroccan of supporting kurds while 1 post before he had said he didn't support them.

>>130355744
Yeah I agree qatar-turkey are in their own camp, but i think I would put them in the first camp in Syria (at least until last year) to simplify the issue. Theyre closer to the Iranian camp now.

> Russia isn't planning some long game in the Mid East.
I wish youre right. But I feel Russia has long term plans and doesnt want to lose that base in Syria. Having said that, only the Syria govt can provide them with stability, having that kurdish american region will be a headache for them.

Requesting quick rundown of today pls
What about gainz?

>>130355981
You admitted yourself that you supported the kurds until 10 months ago.

>>130354586

I think there are if you browse too many of their articles

then open in incognito mode, or google the tittle

>>130355278
>>130355981
Also I just checked an Qimishli battle was 1 year and 2 months ago, I was sure it was longer than 1 year, you just mentioned Hasaka date to exaggerate your claim.

>>130355062
Yeah, I'm too lazy to look it up on 4plebs too, but there was a lot of Kurd shilling that seems to have ended as of late.

>>130355716
I haven't noticed her. I could even understand Moro insurgency news or something. But that sounds overboard.

>>130355975
That's not for some wide plan in a whole region. It's mainly a confidence boost for Assad regime.

>>130356234
You said two years. You were way off either way.

>>130356303
Youd get around 5-10 filpinos news posts per bread around 12 hours earlier by that norwegian filipino.

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>>130356372
>You said two years. You were way off either way.
It's not like /sg/ was really a thing 2 years ago, anyway...

>>130356191
massive advance Southwest of Raqqa

>>130356360
Russia itself doesn't have to take over the whole region, all they have to do is keep pressure off Syria and Iran long enough to allow the Shiite crescent to be fully implemented
After that point Iranian domination and eventual attacks on Israel are inevitable

>>130356200
I hated them since Qimishli actually, 1 year and 2 months ago. Besides, whats wrong with changing my mind after being exposed to new information?

>>130356372
Yeah, I was off for 10 months, but you tried to make it seem worse. Besides thats a technicality, that you used to divagate instead of address the topic.

>>130346982

If the silent majority in Damascus would just rise up and kill Assad we would have a secular Republic by now on the same level of development as Saudi Arabia.

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>>130356600
anime is white and based

>>130356557
> Yeah, I was off for 10 months, but you tried to make it seem worse.
Im not trying to make anything worse - im saying people here (not you) have been shilling for the kurds until very recently.

>>130356600
Maghreboi, you're starting to be boring

>>130356755
Assad is secular you retard

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>mfw checking up on latest isis territory map

AlAndlusi @Trffgg3 3h3 hours ago

From a brother in #Daraa:
Regime is mobilising militias to open 2 fronts.Du'a for the brothers there...

>>130356906
Might as well put Lebanon red.

>>130356111
Being in the same camp means that they are allies. Qatar and Turkey getting closer to Iran doesn't mean they are allies.

Russia's naval base was barely operated or manned prior to Syrian civil war. It was mainly operated by civilian contractors. It's not really important to Russia. In fact, in 2013, a Russian official as reported by RT said as much. Of course Russian govt had to do damage control but it is the honest position of Russia.

Russia is not capable to manage the problems of the Middle East. It's too complicate for Russia to figure out (hence why all their proposals to Syrian regime in terms of political reforms were rejected) and even if Russia did figure it out, it doesn't have the capacity to manage the Mid East. Furthermore, it'd be suicidal because the more Russia gets involved, the bigger the backlash will be domestically when it eventually fucks up.

At the end of the day, Russia is a paper bear that's very good at bluffing. It's why, for example, they let Israel bomb the Syrian regime. And it's why they don't retaliate after Turkey shot down one of its jets.

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>>130356517
wew

Also did the internet completely crashed right now for you too or was it just me?

>>130356832

>secular state
>need to be muslim to run for office

Niiiiice Gary!

>>130353271
what battle is that from?

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>>130356906
>SAA attacking them from the south
>Kurds atttacking them from the north
>Americunts think the apt thing to do is support the FSA

>>130356778
I would say there has been a lot of trump supporters shilling lately - which usually support kurds because muh merica empire, if you consider them kurd shills, then you are right. But people just purely shilling on kurds haven't been here much, max 3 per thread and thats a bad bread.

>>130357410

It is the apt thing to do....because their goal for funding FSA isnt to defeat ISIS.

>>130357233
it did actually

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>>130356906
Caliphate is almost gone. Baghdadi on suicide watch.

>>130349398
Fattie got rekt

>>130357120
I dont think Saudi and Israel are allies, I mean Saudi doesnt officially recognise Israel. They might agree on Iran and maybe Syria - but Turkey and Iran are closer than Israel and Saudi.

>>130356556
Why the fuck would Russia want Iran to be that strong? Russia and Iran have a bad history. Read on Russia Persian wars. Iran used to have the Caucasus and Russia took it from Iran. Russia occupied some parts of Iran as well in recent history. There is bad blood between them. The commies were not liked by either the Shah's regime or the revolutionary force that came after.

A strong Iran will threaten the Caucasus in the long run. Russia isn't going to help Iran get its empire. Also it quite frankly doesn't really care about the Mid East except to use it for domestic political gains.>>130356832
He isn't. There is no secular leader in the Arab world. Secularism is what the 1st amendment talks about: No involvement in religion, neither giving advantage to one, nor demeaning one, nor prohibiting exercise of any by the government. Assad's govt has nepotism of Alawites. Iran will not let some religions like Bahai be practiced fully and won't let wahabi mosques be opened. Saudi Arabia is obviously not secular. Egypt controls religious expression as well, etc...

To be honest, many European countries are also becoming less secular. I'd say the most prominent and obvious secular country is Murica.

>>130356906
wew... I feel bad for isis, they started a war that can't win

>>130357406
Battle of al-Hasakah (Aug 2016)

>>130348946
>accident? kek, we ww3 now

You so silly. Sea lanes are fucking crowded and it's amazing there aren't more collisions.

>>130346982

Alright. Fast forward the clock 2 years.

Syria back under 100% assad control. Qatar successfully survives blockade without capitulating to Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia has lost a lot of fucking ground as a result of these failed ventures. What is their next power play?

>>130357729
>Syria back under 100% assad control.

Are the Jews ever going to allow that?

>>130357647
They're not open allies but they are allies behind close door, which should matter.

>but Turkey and Iran are closer than Israel and Saudi.

Turkey opposes Iranian hegemony. Israel doesn't care about increasing Saudi influence.

>>130348994
So they're in the Turkish safe space? Would there even be a point to weaponizing autism?

>>130357650
>Why the fuck would Russia want Iran to be that strong?
It doesn't matter what Russia wants and it doesn't require their participation
Frankly i am more concerned with seeing Israel destroyed than what Russia wants
>Assad is not secular
>There should be religious freedom in Sunni majority countries and Wahhabis should be treated on the same level as other religious groups
filtered

>>130357729
>Syria back under 100% assad control.
That's a little far fetched there, buddy, I would call it wishfull thinking.

>>130357845

They can only fund so many "local rebels" before people start to notice not a single one of them is Syrian. They've done just about all they can and it is now clear it was not enough.

>>130357439
Id consider anyone that calls kurds "neutral" as shilling for them. All that shilling stopped when it was obvious they want to keep everything and started praising Saudi, preventing the PMU, shit like that.

>>130357525
Was it the jews?
I believe they do it to pull information quickly
Truth is it only lasts 15 seconds, you think its your connection unless you cross check
For some reason 4chin worked perfect while social medai you tube and normie news sites that I tried all crashed

>>130350539
>this thread is for arabs you fucking k*rd

To spectators you are all the same. Like Balkanoids fighting over their narcissism of small differences.

>>130357996
Syria has a better future than your country.

>>130357954
I see /ptg/ is flying the hakenkreuz tonight.

>>130358127
Kurds are turks or persians, theyre not arabs.

>>130357996

The rebels are out of man power and Rojava is running out of ISIS to distract SAA with. Sooner or later they will both be beaten.

>>130349398
>Left handed

Haram, have that hand taken off.

>>130357954
>It doesn't matter what Russia wants and it doesn't require their participation
Iran's hegemony can be countered with a rising Muqtada Sadr. Question is if America would be too emotional to support him behind close doors.

Anyway, Iran's hegemony rests on unconventional forces. Albeit those work against weak or politically correct forces, they can be destroyed with a strong army. Israel also has 300 nukes. If it fears its destruction, they'll use the nukes.
>filtered
More like triggered.

>>130358127
>To spectators you are all the same
Not everyone is as fucking stupid as that.

>>130358099
everything

@130358283

>Sadr
This needs to end, once they can Shia Jihadis will flood in to fight Nusra and America's other pets. America fucked up by giving Iraqis asay in their nation's running.

>>130358208
You calculate the american/zionist factor in your estimations? They already have physical presence there, they are not going to go away just because Assad or Putin tells them to. It's a fucking mess, destruction of daesh and moderate beheaders is only the start.

>>130358131
Somehow I doubt that, but without a nationalist uprising you might be very correct, your country doesn't fare well either though.

>>130358131
It doesn't. Most of Syria won't be rebuild because no one will foot the bill (estimated to be 100 billion to 300 billion). Most of the refugees who left won't come back.

>>130358045
>Id consider anyone that calls kurds "neutral" as shilling for them.
I see, so thats what you call shilling, you should probably read what shilling means though, it means something different than you think.

Then I agree that there were more neutral people on this issue. Just be clear on what you are talking about.

>>130358530

Once ISIS has no more territory in Syria they cannot hide behind the excuse of "defeating ISIS". They will have to leave or admit that isnt why they are there.

>>130358678
but you forget something
>those poor kurds
>we have to protect them guise
this will be the narrative I think

>>130358530
Im Lebanese, not sure you can call it a country, just a bunch of arabs from different religions trying to live together.

>>130358678
>or admit that isnt why they are there.
Sadly, they will probably just admit it and keep their bases there.

>>130358636
It is shilling if you paint a rebel group as neutral when theyre a shitty terrorist group stealing Syrian land.

>>130358765

You've got me there.

>>130358045
Kurds are opportunistic like Jews were. It can be argued to be a disgusting way of doing things but it can be successful.

>>130358678
They can use the excuse that if they leave, there will be another ISIS that pops out. Anyway it doesn't matter really. The West loves the Kurds. Feminism of the Kurds won them over.

>>130358593
> Most of the refugees who left won't come back.
Im pretty sure most will. Especially those without professional degrees.

>>130358812
lel, why bash on Hellas then? Did you pass through Greece and had a rough time?

>>130358871

It'd require a declaration of war, which would need to pass congress.

Surely congress can't have THAT MANY neocons?

>>130358678
Now who will be our greatest ally and the only democracy in the middle east???

>>130358966
> kurds are opportunistic like Jews were.
Nationalist Kurds are like Israelis, but without the money and brains.

>>130358975
They'll just move to another country that wants them. If tomorrow Germany kicks all the refugees out, they'll just go to another country. There is no future for them in Syria. Turkey can also support more Syrians. Maybe as a counter to Kurdish separatists by having them in parts in the east.

>>130358997
Im not bashing, ive never been to Greece. I just thinking your country is in a rough spot and should have left the EU when it could.
I also think Greeks hating arabs is retarded as I cant tell us apart.

>>130358894
Some people just don't have enough information mate, its not that they are shilling for something, you could try to redpill them instead of screeching that they are shills. Also kurds are technically not a rebel group, they are not classified as such by the syrian government, but they might become one.

>>130359065
Oh they'll get the money from Saudi Arabia. In terms of intelligence, the average IQ of Kurds isn't really any lower compared to their neighbors, including the Israelis. Albeit, it can be argued that the leftist portion of Kurds aren't the brightest.

farrg th' kurds

>>130359100
I know this means nothing, but all the Syrians ive met want to go back. Leaving because of a war isnt the same as leaving willingly. Many of those people have homes there and land, in the West they have nothing.

>>130359032
>It'd require a declaration of war
I don't think so. They bombed shia militas 3 times without that. What stops them from doing it more times?

>>130359391

But what about the gibs?

>>130359391
Many syrians lost their homes, there is nowhere to come back even if they want sadly, even if the fight was over. Many will choose to stay in europe because of this >>130359460

>>130359255
Just because they aren't in an open war doesn't mean they're not rebels. YPG and their allies had clashes with the regime. And pushing for an autonomous Rojava is still a rebellious act as they aren't doing it with their guns thrown on the ground. They may not be separatists but that doesn't mean they're not rebels.

>>130359391
It's very hard to go back after leaving when there will be a major downgrade in living conditions. By the time Syria gets rebuild (if it ever gets rebuild before being split), there will be a second generation of Syrian refugees at least.

>>130359460
>what about the gibs?
Gibs aren't worth shit when compared to your native country and its people. That's how arabs are.
I know that almost any Moroccan would come back if there was a civil war in Morocco.

>>130359740
Just because people say something doesn't mean they'll do it.

>>130359231
>I also think Greeks hating arabs is retarded as I cant tell us apart.
riight. Do not worry, I do. Also:
>thinking appearance is the sole reason to dislike arabs
mhhmmm, abdul, better start reconsidering some stuff.

>>130359231
> I just thinking your country is in a rough spot and should have left the EU when it could.
Yeah, like everyone else in Greece, but politicians have a different tale to tell.

>>130359460
illegals come for gibs, real syrians hardly leave for gibs

>>130359740
not the young moroocans, they are a cancer to islam

>>130359636
Not really. Cmon man, dont think like an American - these people are Syrians. They were forced out, most homes havent been completely destroyed and they still own land. That makes a huge difference compared to being a refugee in the west where you own nothing.
You have to see this as an Arab, not as a Westerner. The only ones that might want to stay are the highly skilled ones (doctors etc).

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>>130359964
>Just because people say something doesn't mean they'll do it.
I'm not talking about what people are saying. I'm talking about what they'll do.

All Arabs are like that. Retarded, prone to infighting, nostalgic of peaceful times while constantly calling for war, and terribly patriotic.

>>130360001
Im a christian im not muslim. 40% of Lebanon is Christian.
Greeks are seen positively in the Arab World, dont know why you fags are so retarded about looking like us.

>>130360001
To be honest, if you removed all references to Islam, and Islamic things, I couldn't tell the difference between Greece and Turkey.

But that's not to shit on Greece. More the attitude of the Turks and Ottomans. That they invaded while stealing culture to adapt as their own.

>>130359727
> It's very hard to go back after leaving when there will be a major downgrade in living conditions.
Living as a refugee is pretty much a downgrade from living with your own land in your home country.

>>130360295
Can you tell Greeks, Turks and Arabs apart? I cant. Some people from South Spain look like them too.

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>>130360106

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where are the türks???
I miss ottoman when, moderate kebab, etc.

>>130360185
Most Greeks today do not care about Arabs, but there was always a xenophobia in the Greeks, now it's starting to go away, pity. You are generally disliked about being muslims, you as a christian, won't be seen with a negative view. Lebanese are semetic, yes, but do not forget the hellenic presence of more than 2000 years there and generally Judea, Levant, Syria... But looking like you? Some might, a small minority I would say, having brown hair and brown eyes doesn't make you an arab, my semetic friend. Many gypsies do look like you, but many also look like pakistani/indian people.

>>130360106
Moroccans, maybe. Mashriqi Arabs? No. Example: Palestinians.

>>130361036
>but do not forget the hellenic presence of more than 2000 years there
Kek. What kind of history they teach in Greece? Hellenic presence was from 300ish BCE to 600ish BCE. That's about 900 years of Hellenic presence. Not 2000. Semitic presence is over 3500 years.

>>130361307
>>130361307
>300ish BCE to 600ish CE
Fixed.

>>130348374
Well NOW you're not. Gee thanks.

>>130361307
All palestinians that were displaced were done so in 1948 and 1967, after both wars. It's been more than 50 years; the situation isn't comparable at all.

>>130360436
I can't, yet. With experience I will be able to though, I'm sure. I also can't tell many Asians apart.

When I was in Turkey and that gang of Kurds threw rocks at me, I had no idea they were Kurds. It was only after my gfs mum told me it was Kurds that I new.

>>130361663
Ah so they aren't terribly patriotic.

>>130360023
>Cmon man, dont think like an American
>You have to see this as an Arab, not as a Westerner.
I think it like a mexican, I'm not american, and I'm being realistic.

>They were forced out, most homes havent been completely destroyed and they still own land.
It will be costly to repair though, while other houses were completely leveled.

>>130359727
>Just because they aren't in an open war doesn't mean they're not rebels.
Government considers them a self defense group.

>>130360295
Have you been to Turkey, you can clearly tell who is who there. There is a clear balkan population, mostly being hellenic and slavic, even some celtic, theres also anatolian populations and then you have people looking like arab-turkic(fucking lol), too swarthy, kurds and some turks, mongol-like. It's a melting pot.
But you can clearly tell them apart. I know I do. Also, when we see people looking like arabs/turks we either call them turkface or arabface, Albanians get the best nickname though: panheads. Spend some time with us and you will end up hating yourself, lel.

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>>130361689
protip: look at the eyebrows

>>130361773
Nobody will want to reply to you if you keep arguing in bad faith.

>>130361776
What kind of label the Assad regime uses depends on who they feel about demonizing. They used to consider all the opposition foreign terrorists implanted by the Mossad. Then after, Assad says there are foreign backed terrorists but also also national/patriotic opposition, to make the amnesty proposal look good.

Tomorrow the Assad govt could consider YPG a bunch of maniac terrorists. What they say not isn't really relevant. https://www.rt.com/news/325690-syria-negotiate-terrorists-assad/

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>>130357233
>Map
You know what, those backstabbers will attempt this, I am sure of it.

>>130361843
They were all within the age that eyebrows wouldn't have shown much.

Plus, because they were throwing stones I had my back to them so I could shield my gf at the time from getting hit badly.

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>>130361307
history? in Greece? kek, they are trying to remove history now, lefties are destroying education(it was already fucked up..)
but...
>thinking there wasn't Minoan presence there
>now knowing that there was mycaenean presence there
ayy famalam

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Good night /sg/

>>130362115
That makes sense. You're right, the rhetoric might change soon.

>>130361843
You said they were very patriotic. Not wanting to back after 50 years isn't really patriotic.

>>130362186
Minoan aren't Hellenic. They may be proto Hellenic at best.

Anyway, Minoan traded with some factions in the Levant. But that doesn't mean it had a significant presence. America has products in Russia. That doesn't mean there is American presence in Russia the same way one would say that Russia has slavic presence. There were no Minoan or Mycenean communities there

>>130362125
Kek. Thats a very kurdish thing to do, im proud someone here understand how their brain works.

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>>130347138
gib jewess semen demon gf

>>130362482
well this is a nice morning read:

http://scripta.journals.yorku.ca/index.php/scripta/article/view/40122/36323

You cannot deny that theres a presence there, mate.

>>130347138
Her eyes are too far apart.

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>>130357704

complete coincidence that the ship hit exactly where the radar and commander were?

and Philippine flagged?

>>130363338
Read before linking, dumbass.

>but there is no conclusive evidence in
the archaeological record to indicate that the sites were systematically
colonized by peoples of Aegean origin

Honestly, maybe Turks should genocide you next time they conquer you. That way there won't be hundreds of years later, retards like you who'll claim X or Y territory.

bumping this shit thread to hasten its demise. these threads whould have good themese so yhey keep moving, stop making shitty boring titles and come up with interesting titles for once

>>130363558
>claiming territory
wut, just saying there was a fucking presence since mycaenean times there, faggot
If I wanted to claim as you said, I would use the Eastern Roman Empire or the hellenistic empires, lad, not some mycaenean presence that had pure trading purposes, dumbfuck.

>>130363465
>>130348946

>YOKOSUKA, Japan (NNS) -- A number of Sailors' bodies that were missing from the collision between USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62) and a merchant ship have been found.

>As search and rescue crews gained access to the spaces that were damaged during the collision this morning, the missing Sailors were located in the flooded berthing compartments. They are currently being transferred to Naval Hospital Yokosuka where they will be identified.

http://www.c7f.navy.mil/Media/News/Display/Article/1217825/uss-fitzgerald-collision-update-1033am-jst-june-18-2017

>>130364064
There's influence as a result of trade which is true for all peoples in the region and in proximity to it. There is no presence when it comes to settlers or rulers that are Hellenic or proto Hellenic until much later.

To claim presence because of trade is retarded because everyone pretty much traded with each other. Go pay your debt faggot and stop being such a parasite to Europeans.

>>130364369
http://www.usdebtclock.org/#

>>130363465
shut up faggot

>>130364924

no u

>>130364980
watch your mouth you dirty flip

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>>130364369
>Go pay your debt faggot and stop being such a parasite to Europeans.
You hurt my feelings, Joshua

>>130363465
>mfw US navy can't into helmsman

>>130363838
bumping what should next theme be?

>>130363465
Ships can't be aimed that precisely at a moving ship even if the cargo vessel commander had wanted to. Flag is irrelevant other than the cargo ship officers and crew were probably poorly trained.

>>130363426
faggot

I'll bake

>>130364866
American debt is sustained and can be increased far more than what it is because of the status of the US dollar.

Of course if the US dollar stops becoming the world reserve currency that's another matter.

>>130365176
Already got a good one, you'll see when we hit the bump limit

>>130363465
Russian ship got sunk because of sheeps. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/russian-spy-ship-sunk-by-sheep-barge-sheep-and-sailors-unhurt/

>>130365586
Shit...

>>130360106
>All Arabs are like that. Retarded, prone to infighting, nostalgic of peaceful times while constantly calling for war, and terribly patriotic.

Best thing I read all day.
I don't think those who went to europe will go back though. From Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan, maybe, but all Syrians, Palestinians from Syria and Iraqis I ever talked to definitely want to stay.
Also, being terribly patriotic doesn't have to mean that they want to live in their country of origin, people from MENA create parallel societies that build upon nationalistic notions all the time. Diaspora identity is fucking weird.

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>>130365868
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>>130361307
>Hellenic presence was from 300ish BCE to 600ish BCE. That's about 900 years of Hellenic presence. Not 2000.

The Philistines were Greek (12th century BC), and the "Hellenic presence" is still in the ME due to the Orthodox church (and up until the middle or the 20th century, ethnic Greek communities).

>>130357410
No one actually believes that except for Democrats and TV guys.