Amazon is taking over the World

What's Kroger? Who cares about whole foods, I've never seen one before.

>>130346952
You are an idiot.
This was a HUGE and publicized problem with Wal-Mart.

Wal-Mart got out Jewed...
The USA should have clamped down on it when Wally world was destroying local businesses and they didn't.

So it opened the flood gate and now this is completely legal if Walt-marts monopoly is.

>>130347088
Kroger is a Midwest supplier, like Dillon's.

If you don't know of them you are a coast cuck stop using the confederate flag.

>>130347088
Found the Floridian. Kroger is where people buy groceries where they don't have Publix.

>>130347194
In Canada warlmarts are only in the ghetto, we used to have zellers but target bought them then closed a year later so there's no big box stores anymore for whites to go to besides the high end department stores.

>>130347306
Fuck Florida
>>130347292
I've never been near the ocean in my life

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>>130346952
good

retail should go away

Before it was farms, and then mills, and then textile factories. This is just another job segment disappearing because its intended output can be done a better way. Many humans achieve higher levels of output than attend to a register and point people towards a restroom.

>>130347292
I'm born and raised in the midwest and never heard of it.

>>130347194
Regulations and "free trade" killed mom and pops, a mega giant like Walmart is just the necessary end result

>>130347635
Mom and pops are still the standard here, the only big box we have where I live in Toronto is the LCBO and Dominion (fuck you quebec I'm not calling it Metro)

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>>130347538
I don't understand how you've never even heard of Kroger before

>Now they are coming after Wal-Mart and Kroger.
You say that like it's a bad thing.

Good fuck Walmart and small mom and pop shops.

Everything should be owned by Amazon. I hope they fuck over car dealers soon and sell cars directly to customers.

>>130346952
adapt or die

also isnt wallmart shit anyway?

Amazon is based. I wouldn't be surprised if within the next couple of years they automate most of their warehouse labor. Then they would really have enough leverage with their pricing to BTFO walmart.

>>130346952
Wtf NO.

Whole Foods only congregate in rich liberal neighborhoods. You won't find one of these in hickville I assure you.

RIGHT WING SUBURBAN RETARDS NEED NOT TO WORRY

>>130346952
I'm not ordering food from fucking amazon.

>If you think you're job in retail is safe, think again.
Amazon will never destroy the gas station/convenience store.

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>>130347870
Heard of Kroger, never seen one.

>>130348780
Kroger is called Ralphs on the west coast, I think.

>>130346952
This sounds more like a golf course acquisition for the sake of vanity than a super market power play.

Hunting Kroger and especially Walmart with a Whole Foods is like trying to sell deer meat that you shot with a punt gun.

If Amazon turns Whole Foods into a bargain basement chain they probably have a chance though. Walmart is still doing the general store model and has the "come get it today" advantage. There is a walmart about 2 miles from my house. Why am I going to order groceries (yes you can do this) when I can just go get them and be back in under an hour?

Krogers may have a harder go of it because they are trying to be fancy (direct competition with Whole Foods) but are still smart enough to have some discount sutff in the store too. This should be a fun story to watch in the next 5 years or so. If Amazon makes WF go cheaper, they just might create a big market.

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Why would I go to a brick and mortar store when I can get the same thing online for less money? Expertise? Most retail monkeys know next to nothing about their products, I can get more from amazon usually.

The only reasons to not buy online are because you need it right now, you need to try it on(clothing), or it's a perishable food item that you want to pick out yourself.

Retail is becoming obsolete.

>>130347306
I lived in Clermont while working at Disney and there was a Kroger near to me.

Fuck you.

>>130348485
Walmart really isn't bad. I buy a lot of stuff there because it's cheap and there's always one within a few miles. The clothes I'm wearing now only cost about $20 from Walmart.

>>130348511
Whole foods founder and CEO is a right wing suburban retard you dope. A cucked one to be sure but nevertheless.

>>130348918
I refuse to buy made in China and I plan to replace everything in my house with products made in Anglo countries, I can't do this in a normal shop I have to go online.

>>130348964
Depends on the Wal-Mart and the time of day. Go to one in an urban area during a busy time and it's the most horrific experience you can imagine.

>>130348904
Whole Foods is for rich people, that is true. Mostly coz all of their products are 'organic' and locally sourced. You don't see kellog cereal brands on their shelves, that much I can say... Pretty obscure stuff but healthier, and made with less ingredients

>>130346952
You cant destroy walmart. Their earnings are aimed to 20% profit at BEST. Whatever Amazon implements they will copy it and charge you the half Amazons charges you.

>>130348964
But it's made in the Far East and not America, my pants cost $50 a pair but they're made in Canada

>>130346952

no one can afford whole foods anyway except for boomer yuppie faggots

walmart will remain king among ghetto scum and everyone else on a budget

real people will not pay $7.99 for two sips of organic piss juice

>>130347635
They got killed because their format was too expensive and you CANT pay for it. People choosed cheaper stuff over quality service

>>130349067
Even online how the hell do you find products not made in China.... electronics/computers for example. Seems like it would be really difficult

>>130349113
Yeah Walmart runs 3% profit margins. People think they make a ton of money but at that rate with inflation and updating/replacing infrastructure it's basically nothing.

>>130346952
>if you think you're job is safe, think again

I hope for your sake that your job doesn't involve how to fucking spell

>>130346952
Why are we letting this monopoly silently destroy our local economies?

Back in the day we would be able to drive down the street and buy everything we could possibly need from a local small business and get things in less than 20 min. Now Amazon has replaced the small business owner's ability to generate wealth, with a $12/hr warehouse slave. Or the owner's can bend over to Amazon's pyramid-like scheme, just to get data raped and replaced by Amazon's in house product. Now we wait 2-7 days for cheaper crap-products. That is, until they launch the drones which will just put us back in the same place as before, waiting 20 min for a product to arrive. People are literally buying clothes and shoes that don't fit, spending weeks sending exchanging them online when they could have just went to a store and find the perfect fit in just 30 min or less. Less reasons to go outside, no consumer culture(malls), no ability to generate wealth. Just more solitude and endless consumption at our own detriment.

>>130348918
Are you mentally challenged? Amazon format will use retail as a showroom and distribution centers. They are coming with fully automated service and delivering options for locals.

>>130346952
Amazon should be nationalized.

>>130349479
Bernie please.

>>130349329
I don't really use much electronics, my TV is about a decade old, my phone is about 25 years old, I use an iPad but that's the only electronic that's new. What other electronic could I need?

>>130346952
What's gonna happen when google buys Amazon?

>>130348904
Well like you said the whole ordering groceries thing is what I believe they're angling at here and don't forget everyone laughed at them before. I could definitely see them incorporating drones in that type of thing in the next 20 years.

>>130346952
>working in retail
so minimum wagers?
They're all going to be worthless soon enough anyways

>>130349433
>Back in the day we would be able to drive down the street and buy everything we could possibly need from a local small business and get things in less than 20 min

you never fucking did that, you fucking nigger

your mom shopped at walmart and kroger like the rest of them

shut the fuck up with this "back in my day general store etc" cockshit

mom and pop shit died with the wild west

suck a dick if you still complain about walmart and being able to get all the shit you need there without having to make multiple trips because you have shit to do like fuck pussy, nigger

>>130349433
Its called Free Market. The old store owner either have to look for new job or target to hipsters and wealthy people willing to buy not so mainstream products like Tibetan water and 100 Non-Gm organic fruits.

I hope yhey send food to my door I hate going to the grocery store
leave it to amazon to innovate

>>130349340
>Yeah Walmart runs 3% profit margins
>Jeff bezos worth 85 billion
You talk like a nigger.

>>130347870
He's probably from one of those five grey midwest states.

>>130349433
Local town one town over from mine actively votes against having corporate chains like this in their community, the only thing they allow are franchises specifically for this reason.

>>130346952
good
fuck walmart

>>130346952
>If you think you're job in retail is safe, think again
While i'm at it more than half the current jobs in the world today will be replace by robots or shut down because no longer useful

>>130349668
I'm only 24 and I remember when I was a kid we walked down to the Main Street, we went to the vegetable shop and got our fruits and veggies, w went to the butcher got our meats and salami, went to the bakery and got our bread. The grocery store was farther and more expensive, they knew us at the bakery and we were kids they always gave us a little treat my sister and I which wouldn't happen at a big box grocery store.

Yeah Bezos really transformed the news business when he bought the Washington Post.

>>130346952
>they are coming after Wal-Mart
Walmart owns Jet.com, which is a competitor to Amazon. If they can use it effectively, they'll be fine, but most people don't seem to know about it.

Amazon Prime Pantry and Jet are still more expensive than any local grocery store, but sometimes they have shit I can't find or I'm lazy.

>>130349642
So what happens to them? Basic income or mass slaughter?

>>130350042
Microsoft is alright they have bing lol

>>130349754
benzos doesn't own walmart

If the brick-and-mortar stores can't compete with Amazon because they're online how can Amazon now move into being brick-and-mortar? The financial position they have? Like when the big store chains decimated family and local businesses with theirs? Just seems weird to move into the business sector you yourself rendered obsolete.

>>130350072
french revolution 2.0

>>130349924

nigger you huffed too much shitgas and think you're living in Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood or some shit

lose your boner, sober up, and file that post under "shit that never happened" you filthy delusional leafnigger fuckface

Food Lion is the best grocery store.

>>130350072
Nothing. Finally people will realise that the +fertility +immigration to boost GDP is obsolete. Automation is the future. If only welfare and social programs wont exist it will encourage women to seek career men and improve the next generation.

The US is seeding a large mass of communists by interest retards.

>>130350179
The only brick and motar amazon will get into are distribution centers

>>130350274
This happens everyday still in Toronto, lots of people go down to the market to get their bread, I would see linenups of a dozen people outside the store waiting to buy bread in the morning, the cheese shops were busy always and so were the fish shops. America isn't like this anymore maybe but some places still are

>>130350568
What if they are using the Whole Foods store chain locals as both showrooms and distribution centers ala Ikea?

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What happens next after he's taken over the world?

>>130350707
Your mom will still be a bitch.

>>130350665
>>130350665
Your just going to order the products online and either pick it up or they will deliver probably using automous trucks in the near future

https://www.recode.net/2016/11/9/13573926/donald-trump-amazon-jeff-bezos-antitrust-taxes

Trump on (((Bezos)))-
"He thinks I'll go after him for antitrust," Trump said at the time. "Because he's got a huge antitrust problem because he's controlling so much, Amazon is controlling so much of what they are doing.

"He's using the Washington Post, which is peanuts, he's using that for political purposes to save Amazon in terms of taxes and in terms of antitrust."

Trump’s campaign later reiterated this narrative in a statement claiming that the Post was being used as political leverage so Amazon doesn’t “get sued for monopolistic tendencies that have led to the destruction of department stores and the retail industry.”

>>130350665
They will do that bacon. But It will most likely be what they have now is a large state hub with smaller distributing warehouses/chain stores ala Costco.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8zNsUTWsOc

>>130351153
Run them through an archive
https://archive.is/P5ZUc

>>130349213
>no one can afford whole foods anyway except for boomer yuppie faggots

This.

Food from there costs at least 2x what it ought to. The markup is insane which is why adding on some minor delivery cost as a percentage would make it economically feasible to do delivery.

Also what the hell is the OP talking about malls being ruined? Malls still do fantastically well since most people want to try on clothes before they buy them or just see what the hell something looks like in person. I know in my city there's at least four malls that all do fantastically well due to this.

What Amazon seems to be doing is just making more use of the huge number of people that are having trouble getting regular jobs and thus are willing to act as delivery drivers for a whole range of products.

I looked up what the pay looks to be and it seems to be about $18/hr without tips and so probably a bit more when doing Amazon Prime which does tips.

There's enough people desperate for work that stuff like this becomes viable for a business to take advantage of.

>>130350274
I also did that growing up. But I lived in a small town. Also while the butcher and baker and candlestick maker(he's also a florist) are still open, the independent grocery was forced to shut down because it couldn't complete with the prices from the big Co-Op that moved in. There's also a fucking Subway that moved in like 3 years ago somehow. Nobody eats there though, I don't know how they say open. Everyone just eats at one of the 3 chinamen places or the ice cream parlor/burger place.

Fucking big Co-Op

>>130350937
Well to be honest they are lobbying hard to use automated drones. Problem is that if they aim the lowest of the low at first their drones will get robbed by shitty people.

This is why regulation and law enforment is key to make automated deliveries work. People afraid of stealing it and actually having a landing place in their house.

You think being a grocer is a life skill?

Got some bad news for you

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>>130346952
If you work in retail or care about stores like Wal-Mart, you're trash
pic related, it's OP

Wal-Mart were jewing America for decades. Buying cheap shit from China and undercutting all the small businesses until they went bust; grabbing plenty of useless niggers for MUH AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, paying everyone such shit wages and having HR tell them to get onto social welfare programs.

Amazon has just outjewed the Wal-jew, namely by not using brick & mortar locations and not filling them with nigger "employees" who don't work and rob the store blind.

>>130351260
I'm in Toronto, in my neighbourhood within a 10 minute walk we have the Dominion and the LCBO, but for the mom and pop shops we have pizza shops, burger shops, ice cream shops, bagel shops, 4 bakeries, a butcher, at least half a dozen tailors, the boys suit shop, about 3 shoe stores, a tea shop, at least 3 or 4 small grocery shops, we have a suit shop, a hat shop, a shoe repair shop, a bunch of women's clothing stores, European restaurants, there is no fast food chains here.

>>130351560
How is delivering you cheap shit jewing you exactly? You like to control the market? Move to North Korea they surely know how to resistribute wealth

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>>130351566
They started as just a small gas station then they bought out the lumber yard. Opened a small food store, then built this fucking monstrosity for a town of about 1600, forcing the other grocers to shut down because they couldn't compete on price. Then they bought out the hardware store too.

Fucking big co-op.

>>130352043
I mean. You could fit the ENTIRE FUCKING TOWN in that god damn store. Every single man, woman and child living there. Just between the aisles.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU BUILD THIS

>>130352043
I've never heard of them, it sounds awful a small town of a thousand doesn't need a big box like that, it's sad many small towns don't have a town square anymore, just the local big box store everyone drives to

>>130346952
Bumping

>>130346952
Fuck walmart

>>130346952
>They've already destroyed the Malls. Now they are coming after Wal-Mart and Kroger.


good

>>130350568
How is a distribution center fundamentally different from a store? It's funded through sales and flow of inventory, customers go there or get delivery; taxes, utilities...all the arguments for the closing of malls

>>130346952
I don't mind. I love my Amazon. 2 day shipping, video streaming and music streaming for only a 100 bucks a year. Usually cheaper than brick and mortar stores and you don't need to go all over the place to find what you need. And they have amazing customer service.

>>130346952
They'll need self-driving vehicles/drones to make fast home deliveries. Normal shipping providers won't transport perishable food I don't think.

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>Amazon coming to Australia
>going to kill even more small businesses
>two biggest cancers Woolworths and Coles will survive

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>tfw you will never own your own small business and have the ability to build generational wealth for your family.

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>>130347194
>>130346952

Check this out:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/these-are-the-largest-employers-in-the-us-state-by-state-2017-01-26

Walmart is by far the biggest employer in the United States, and they treat their employees like shit.

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>>130348260
I can't wait until we get our new ration booklet from the Amazon Ministry of Food and Durable Goods. Maybe I can trade my stockings ration for some extra sugar and rice this month!

>>130346952
Amazon and Google merger happens
Disney joins the fray as the entertainment, technology, and business industries merge into Amazon-Google-Disney corporation
Soon the food industry is overtaken
Then
The world

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> They don't shop at the most based retailer

>>130350480
>Nothing. Finally people will realise that the +fertility +immigration to boost GDP is obsolete.
I wish they would, but we both know they won't. The mind set that every metric must grow will take generations to weed out

>>130352627
>tfw you will never own your own small business and have the ability to build generational wealth for your family.
This. Amazon is the Medusa's head of Corporatism which is decimating capitalism.

>muh local small town shops!!

literally who gives a fuck all they offer are higher prices

good riddance

>>130346952
They paid $30 million per store.

For a niche market grocery chain.

They could run them for ten years and not break even.

I have no idea why so many analysts are fellating this.

>>130347311
you from thunder bay?

>>130349433
It's not a monopoly though, there is still competition.

Besides according to free market principles it's absolutely impossible for a natural monopoly to form.

>>130352464
just relaxe m8. You'll only ever have to leave the house for fresh meat and veggies, no more emu run ins.

>>130347870
>Florida (1)

Kek

>>130347311
Zellers wasn't exactly high brow.

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>>130346952
>who cares
>we'll adapt

Amazon is doing to Walmart what Walmart did to small business. Enjoy the collapse of a late stage capitalist system.

>>130352911
Innovative format is the real treat. But Walmart will copy it if its so good and charge less for it. Amazon must be secure of what they are planning. My bet is that US congress will sell them an special altitude for them to use their drones and the Whole Foods niche will order the same quality products delivered to their home at the more or less the same price.

>>130352898
Smaller towns lose their charm, they lose their property value, they lose other businesses that contribute to the city's limited income because it becomes less profitable and attractive to invest in a town that doesn't have a lively commercial district especially if there's a Walmart one town over, and everyone loses and Walmart wins.

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>>130350274
love this post

>>130349433
>2-7 day wait
>spending weeks buying shit that doesn't fit

you have to be fucking retarded to not know what your fucking sizes are and if you don't have prime by now for next day delivery and free returns you might be brain dead.

Here's a little hint why mom and pop stores are dying, a large amount of them were shit and were already being killed off by terrible corporate chains. Now these chains like Sears and Kmart are being killed off by Amazon and that's just wonderful.

>>130353226
/thread

Eventually everyone gets old. Exept Bell Laboratories, they are the cool guys.

>>130352858
Amazon is literally what capitalism is all about. Monopolies aren't something that would be not allowed in unregulated capitalism. This would be happening on a much bigger scale in a true capitalistic country.

Also,
>all the people complaining about the death of mom and pop stores
Fuck off. They are dying because they aren't selling as low. I understand they can't afford it, and they need to understand people aren't willing to spend more money just to keep around a relic of the past. Big box stores are better for consumers and they are staying. Get used to it. If you can't run a successful business, you only have yourself to blame, no Walmart and Amazon.
>>130352911
Probably because Amazon has been trying to get more into delivering groceries, even within the hour in certain areas. I imagine they will use the stores to as locations to ship food from. They will probably make a lot more money than the stores were previously making if they start shipping it to your door.

>>130347311
The Walmart near me is of ridiculously high quality. The vegetables are fresh, they have their own butcher shop and pharmacy. Everything is also very affordable compared to smaller stores.

I have nothing to prove to anyone, I do most of my shopping there and it's great.

>>130346952
>Now they are coming after Wal-Mart
good fuck that shady company

>>130346952
>They've already destroyed the Malls.
After-school niggers were already doing that before online shopping became a thing.

>>130346952
Corporatism is the inevitable conclusion of capitalism.

If you oppose corporations, you are little better than a communist.

>>130352627
Google street view almost any small town in the US. Look at their main street and see nothing but boarded up windows and derelict homes.
It wasn't like this 30 years ago. Small town America was still alive and well. People owned farms and businesses in those communities. Once the farmers got jewed out of their land, then the businesses started going, too. Then Walmart came in and decimated what was left of Main Street. Then the illegals came in and took all the remaining jobs in rural areas, not just in the fields but in the processing plants and other factories. Now it's refugees to replace them, and the government is paying for somalis to have your grandparent's land and giving them grants to open african stores in the middle of nowhere. It's disgusting to me.

>>130347292
Gulf Coast (best coast) has them all over.
Educate yourself.

>>130348625
>implying they wont develop droid technology quick enough to fly to your car and fill your tank wherever you're parked

>>130346952
i have literally never seen a whole foods in my life
i think they only exist in rich white areas in select cities
so no, they arent taking over shit

>>130353395
I understand the Whole Food buy, but why dont they integrate Ups or Fedex? They could cut distribution prices even more and build a billionarie wall to protect their market % by making any potential competitor having to invest a lot to join the game.

>>130353226
>5RChalKH
as in "im so ideologically bereft im just gonna chalk it up to capitalism"

>>130346952
Amazon bought whole paycheck? OH NOES

Amazon makes Wal-mart cry in shame

>>130347870
You imbeciles, Kroger goes by various different names since it owns a lot of grocery stores you probably think are independent.
A short list that I know of at least that are owned by Kroger:
Harris Teeter (Carolinas)
Fred Meyer (WA State)
Ralph's (So Cal)

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>>130353395
>Amazon is literally what capitalism is all about.
No, it isn't. It is precisely what is turning the lower 90% against capitalism in general.
>Monopolies aren't something that would be not allowed in unregulated capitalism.
Lack of regulation is exactly what caused Amazon to become a literal, 'to big to fail'.
>This would be happening on a much bigger scale in a true capitalistic country.
That inherently makes it good?
>Fuck off.
Ok, good day.

>>130353749
What areas could drone delivering work?

Really makes your almonds activate...

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Ralph's owned by Kroger is where I work as a courtesy clerk.

OLD "CHEAP RICH" JEWISH LADIES FROM NEW YORK OR L.A. KEEP COMIN TO MY STORE CAUSING US PROBLEMS.

and then there's the Canadian invasion every winter or from the Pacific Northwest states.

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>>130352969
Oh yea theres 1 other electronics shop still standing in the US so Amazon is totally not a monopoly. Ok buddy.

>>130346952
>If you think you're job in retail is safe
>you're

Dirty dumb, Murican uneducated scum

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>>130354106
There are Best Buy's everywhere, not Amazon's fault they don't carry the products Radio Shack used to.

>>130353881
Excuse me. Hello there.

Lets talk about the 99% communist logic. You rage that only a few basically own the wealth and the rest and dort poor right?

What are you complaining? That you cant live in a 700000 acre house? Those corporations are big because they gain market % by delivering cheap shit.

Believe you are good being the low 99% of big free market society like the US than the low of a less free market society like China.

You are acting like a spoiled bitch. There is absolute nothing wrong to have a super rich elite if they are giving the other 99% their best prices and business models that exist in the world

>>130353774
I don't know about the rest of the US, but I know they have their own delivery trucks here in PA. It's probably to expensive to buy either of UPS or FedEx. They could maybe make a deal with them, but even that would probably cost a lot since it would cut down their profits they would get from other companies.
>>130353881
Capitalism is free market. Free market is zero regulations. Amazon is absolutely a result of Capitalism, and what it's about. If you don't like that, feel free to leave for a non-capitalist state like Sweden.

>>130346952
Delete your kikebook. Do not use Amazon.

I worked in the amazon fresh place for a while.
Literally getting paid to food shop for people
Its fucking massive. Like biggest one floor building i've ever been in
And its fucking scary what they can and will accomplish as a company

>>130347870
I've also wondered why no Oklahomo presence. Is it a union thing?

>>130353440
>buying produce from China

Dude... just pay a little more and go to a real grocer. Your idea of "fresh" is probably based on appearance and texture from genetic engineering for transport and shelf life without considering taste or health.

they used to break apart monopolies but not anymore

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>>130354347
>Using best buy to back your point

We are truly fucked up beyond recognition

>>130349668
You're an edgy summerfag, aren't ya? I grew up in a Midwestern city of decent size and we knew the grocery store owner and the hardware store owner by name. Stop being a faggot.

>>130347292
We had them in Virginia

>>130354955
What can I say, I fucking love capitalism in action.

Maybe I'm ignorant, but I don't understand the appeal of Amazon at all.

They aren't the cheapest in anything. Almost 100% of the time you can look up the third party seller that has the best price and find it for even less on their site.

It's literally only good for getting the model number of something then searching google for the model number and finding it for less.

Yet somehow they've got rubes a plenty buying everything from there because they're too ignorant to find it cheaper.

What's the value of Amazon over its competition?

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>>130355058
>thinks this is capitalism

>>130348507
They already have robots to do some stuff (kivas) but as a former warehouse employee, we have zero concerns about being replaced. The robots are pieces of shit that always break down

>>130346952
Drone pilot is a new job they are creating

>>130355094
Convenience of things like 1 click shopping, multiple items from one source and rare things that you wouldnt have to travel far to get. And you get it the next day.

>>130348260

>>130348260

Please tell me what the benefit of Amazon is.

They provide NOTHING for less than their competitors.

You're literally sucking a corporate dick with twice the market cap of wal-mart, one that hires 1/4 the people.

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>>130355164
>thinks it isn't

>>130353395
>Monopolies aren't something that would be not allowed in unregulated capitalism. This would be happening on a much bigger scale in a true capitalistic country.
Welp, you're confirmed for being either an idiot or a scheming Jew. There is no such thing as "unregulated capitalism", and monopolies are well recognized threats to competition and the free market.

Protip: capitalism seeks optimum resource allocation for society through limited protection of private property rights. It does not hold private property rights as some kind of absolute good all off their own like so many FREE-DUM cuckservatives. Read what the founders and early courts had to say about copyrights and patents. The system exists to serve society. When and where it results in a situation that harms society, private property "rights" can be overridden.

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This is bad how?

Humans are simply becoming more efficient. Instead of going to the store to buy stuff, you press a button on your computer and it gets delivered to your house.

Someday soon this will work with groceries, and it will be fast. You order your groceries online and they're sent right to your house in under an hour.

The FAA 'shooting down' (no pun intended) Amazon's attempt at drone delivery is a big setback for humanity. Thousands of drones flying non-stop, delivering items to your doorstep just 10 minutes after you buy them was the next step for humanity.

Eventually new houses will be equipped by default with "drone pads" on the roof for these drones to land on.

>>130355094
People are more than willing to pay for convenience.

>>130353395
cheaper foods usually means worse foods. it doesn't even have to be that way, but it is.

enjoy your bottom of the barrel food and resultant health problems.

>>130355284
AI is suit for drones

Maybe factories will come back faster thsn expected with all that potatoe cheap workforce left out

>>130355372

One click shopping scares the shit out of me. No opportunity to change your mind.

People really can't be arsed to spend two minutes to save 20% or more on everything they buy it seems.

The model really seems to be "People are too impatient to wait, but also too lazy to drive. Once people get too lazy to do a Google search, we'll have it all."

>>130355094
This. And lately you can't even research on Amazon effectively because their site is loaded down with so many scripts and ads that it runs like absolute shit.

I haven't bought anything from Amazon in years.

>>130355395
>thinks breaking every law in the book of our capitalistic system is capitalism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_antitrust_law

>>130355531
Who is guying to buy all this shit when no one has a fucking job?

Or do you support UBI?

>>130355533

With how shit the search functionality is, I don't see how it's at all convenient.

If people aren't particular in what they buy, I suppose so.

>>130353440
Yeah same, they get more Canadian produce than Sobeys/Superstore

>>130355702
Jobs will always exist. Don't act like they will all become completely automated.

That aside, you do raise a good point. We need to make it a goal to limit our excess population. If we have too many people, we will have an unemployment crises because a lot of jobs are going to become automated and there won't be replacement jobs.

We need to put an extreme limit on immigration. Go the way of Japan- people say Japan is doomed but they are in the best position to embrace automation.

>>130355960
But, in season farmer's market vegetables are priced well right now**

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>>130355488
>and monopolies are well recognized threats to competition and the free market.

Under free market rhetoric monopolies will always kill themselves because they are unable to react quickly enough to market demands. There is nothing in free market rhetoric about the government preventing the formation of monopolies.

>>130355701
>capitalism
>regulations on businesses

Cool story bro.

http://capitalism.org/category/law/

>>130355624
You cant control the @people. Some anon complains about gm food popularuty at mainstream stores:.. if buyers wont choose cheapness over health they market wont offer them in first place. Dream about normies choosing with logic and health, just look the obsese %, buyers care two shits about eating well

>>130355282
>we have zero concerns about being replaced.

That's dumb. Amazon will be one of the first companies to automate everything.

>>130355488
Welp, you're confirmed for being either an idiot or a scheming commie.
There is no such thing as regulated capitalism, the two contradict each other. We aren't proper capitalism, we are a mixed market economy.

Monopolies aren't a threat to capitalism, they are a part of it. The government shouldn't be getting involved telling companies who they are allowed to sell themselves to. If a company wants to sell their company to another, they should absolutely be allowed to. Not allowing it to happen is taking their rights away and it's anti-freedom. Capitalism is cutthroat, if you can't survive in the market and stop a monopoly from happening, it's your fault and yours alone. You can easily bust up monopolies by giving the people what they want, if you fail at that, oh fucking well. You shouldn't get to run to daddy and demand the big bad companies be broken up to give you a better chance. Now fuck off to China, commie scum.
>>130355561
More expensive food doesn't equal better either. It just means that they can't afford to sell it for cheaper. Walmart is obviously not the top quality, but they aren't the worse either. They can just afford to sell it for a bit cheaper.

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>>130355985
>We need to put an extreme limit on immigration. Go the way of Japan- people say Japan is doomed but they are in the best position to embrace automation.

>some one who is not me understands this

Impossibru

>>130356118

I don't expect logic.

I expect self interest.

People don't even do that anymore.

In the late 1800's early 1900's, everyone was against trusts, because the trusts owned vast railroad networks.
These railroad networks would ship goods into towns and undercut local producers, driving them out of business.
The gut reaction is to be against free trade, but the result, lower prices for goods, far outweighs the disruption of local industry.

>>130354850
Walmart in Canada is sourced from local farmers. They don't ship tomatoes from China.

It's why some Walmart don't offer vegetables and fruits.

>>130346952
Buy from Amazon all the time. Shit is convenient and no hassles with returns. If you want to search for price more power to you but time is money and it's not worth the time on most stuff.

Am I supposed to go to the mall or Target or Homey Depot as the alternative??? Mom and pop stores are great for limited purposes.

>>130346952
>need a laptop
>decide to go to Bestbuy and a few other electronics retailers
>the stores are full of shitskins
>the selection is garbage
>the staff won't ever give direct useful information while suggesting the most useless expensive garbage they've got
>"YOO WE GOT THIS 24GB OF RAM GAMING LAPTOP YOU LIEK GAMES, RIGHT? ONLY 2K. YOU CAN TOUCCCH THE SCREEEEN TOO"
>go to amazon
>get a fairly priced midrange laptop without frills delivered to my door

How can retail even compete?

>>130355737
The only real problem with the search function (and this applies to basically every retailer) is that there is no exclusion functionality.

Many times when browsing for something I want I know more about what I don't want than what specifically I do want. Like if I don't want a leather bag but I don't care if it's cloth or mesh or nylon for example.

>>130352968
Toronto

>>130346952
Fuck jobs. Automate everything possible.

>>130356112
You do realize that corporations are recognised by law as an individual, bringing with it certain rights, protections and abilities that are enjoyed by human beings, right?

>>130346952
I find it somewhat amusing that you're trying to protect the big chains that destroyed local businesses from even bigger chains.
Poor little Wal-Mart.

>>130353124
Zellers could be found in a decent area though, walmarts are always built in the nigger area

>>130356899
Only ina very limited sense

>>130346952
Walmart is fucking gross dude and what the fuck is Kroger?
Nothing of value was lost

>>130356899
Has nothing to do with the current conversation.

There is no better way to get items you want than Amazon. I do research on products I'm looking for and sure as shit I get it in 2 days on Amazon.

>>130356454

> Time is money
> On 4chan

Not very much money it seems.

>>130357215
I've never bought from amazon, I don't know what I could possibly get from there it seems so disorganised and poor quality.

>>130348625
Same with grocery stores. Shoprites and Acmes in the northeast are doing the Shop at home online. Plus Fresh Direct and others are doing the same. I barely see a Amazon fresh truck. But nothing will beat grocery stores and Walmart right now.

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>>130347538
I'm from Jersey and know of it. Used to go on shopping trips there with my uncle and cousins when I'd visit them in Texas for the summer as a kid.

>>130348904
Whole Foods needs to be cheaper. Organic food are in every supermarket at a cheaper discount. Farmers markets in every neighborhood. WF can't compete. Two years ago they introduce a club card for discounts and sales but this barely helps.

>>130356377
>They don't ship tomatoes from China.
tomato greenhouses are big nowadays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1OEFo8QSqc

>>130356377
Wal Mart is actually very hard on their suppliers. They throw their weight around and make their food manufacturers get FSSC 22000 certifications. Costco is the same. Don't know about regional grocery chains.

I know for a fact Whole Foods has shit suppliers because they've got fuck tons of recalls due to undeclared allergens and bad labeling. Amazon is going to have quite the mess to unfuck when they realize the whole back end of Whole Foods is fucked. Wal Mart is going to eat their lunch big league.

>>130358822
where do you buy your books?

>>130359884
The book shop, there's indigo everywhere and hundreds of independent book shops.

>>130347311
There hasn't been fucking Zellers for like 10 years bud.

>>130360157
Yeah I know

>>130353440
Walmart pharmacy = rip

>>130360029
>indigo
(((Indigo)))

Good goy

>hundreds of independent book shops
lel online i imagine you mean

>>130360699
I've never bought a book online

>>130360762
You don't buy many obscure or hard to find books then, I gather

>>130360795
No, I'm reading through the classics right now, I've just finished a study in scarlet today actually, I'm trying to do a book a week minimum

>>130357215

So it's worth your time to research it, but not worth the two minutes it would take to find a better price than Amazon?

>>130358048

Neither do the people shopping there. They make general searches and click around until they see a thumbnail that appeals to them. It creates the "shopping" experience without having to get off our fat amerilard asses.

Amazon isn't about finding stuff you're looking for, it's about exploring and finding whatever strikes your whimsy in the moment.

>work at Lowe's as a specialist in the outdoor power equipment area
>pay is great
>every customer is fucking retarded and can't be bothered to research anything on their own
>no big deal, I know my shit and sell well
>one day I'm told my position has been dissolved company wide along with all department managers
>suddenly everyone stops giving a fuck
>scheduling gets to the point where there are only a handful of employees on the weekends
>despite this, we continue to consistently exceed comps and budgets
>our reward is that we can keep our jobs for a year or take a drastic pay cut
>quit and finally get a job with my degree
Retail is retarded.

>>130360940
Good, keep it up.

If you get into the habit of collecting 1st editions or rare books, you'll find that pretty much the only place to find them is online nowadays, sadly.

That said, Indigo is owned by a jewish woman who actively censors free-speech, please do me & yourself a favor and don't support such a business

>>130361119
I like books that are "collectible" anyway with a nice cover and all that, I don't get the soft covers I never liked the feel of them but I didn't know that I'll avoid indigo.
I wish I could buy some first edition leather bound books but those are way out of my budget, I've looked at Easton Press it seems to be more affordable than buying a first edition

>>130359884
I don't buy books. I steal them online or go to a library. There are no independently owned book stores any longer thanks to barenes & noble and Amazon. I'd buy them if I could find a job or open my own business, but thanks to these corporations, that's no longer a thing.

>>130346952
monopolisation is illegal some places

>>130346952
Walmart grows like crazy, libtards lose their minds. Amazon grows like crazy, libtards as quiet as church mice. What's the difference?

>>130361743
>online
do you print them?

>>130362030
Thanks to the Amazon Kindle I can now download any book I want and read it on my computer, tablet or phone for absolutely free. There are so many illegal ebook libraries to chose from because people upload files no stop.

Thanks Amazon, such innovative :)

>>130362584
well no shit but some people like readin physical books

>>130362584
An Ebook isn't really yours though, you don't have it physically in your possession

>>130346952
>yfw you bought shares of Amazon at $55 back in the late 90's and now it's worth $1000 a share and projected to hit $1600

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>>130362836
Still read it though.

>>130347292
Kroger is literally everywhere. Have them in TN, NC, out west, up north.
It's not different than Wallmart.
It's just the not nigger level food market.

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Guess who's fault it is Goyim.

Das rite, Its the Jews; The government is never at fault

amazon is great. they don't have everything, but better than wall mart. order, three days later it's at my door.

This means warehouses and delivery jobs like UPS and fedex will be on the rise. Its all good. Retail sucks anyway, anytime you go they always ask if you want to be a member of their fucking ((((rewards program)))) and try to shame you if you dont do it. Fuck that

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>wholefoods is OP
>Go to farmer's market and they accept EBT too

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>>130354106
>1 other electronics shop still standing in the US
yep - here 'tis

>>130363412
want hungarian fishing line made to look like naked women, they might have it.

>>130352148
MONEYYYY

>>130363412
I can't wait for the day it take 3 days to deliver a pizza to my front door.

PrimePizzaGO

>>130363544
Amazon is starting to do their own delivery vans and they pay pennies to ship with other carriers. Wait till the drones come. Tens of thousands of jobs will be lost.

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>>130363698
Amazon purposefully funds Al Lasher's to ward off any monopoly accusations.

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>>130347870
Monopolies should be illegal.

>>130365430
The state allows monopolies retard

>>130365615
No fucking shit dipshit they shouldn't be allowed. At all. One company buying every other fucking store around ruins competitions and shuts down the little guys.

>>130365615
That leaves us with two options.

Corporate slave or brainwashed consumer

Which blue pill do you want?

>>130365693
then make a bunch of fake companies with the intention of being bought out
(this actually happened to standard oil and decreased their market share)

>>130360157
Jesus Christmas Zellers closed 5 years ago. I got my TV Stand and pantry there when they were on clearance.
>>130356075
Ain't no one got time for that

>>130346952
kek it's pretty funny give it 20 years and amazon will probably have their own version of hollywood as well

>>130347088
Go north of Macon and you'll start seeing Krogers a lot more.

They are just Publix but with a lot more coupons.

If you've never seen a Publix imagine a Harveys with a lot less niggers.

Harvey's is basically a bigger dollar general with a lot less Mexicans and white trash.

Should sort you out, unless you are in florida in which case god help you.

>>130346952
>Have bought exactly one item from Amazon in the past year.
>dont own a smart phone

Feels good man.

>>130361066
whats's your degree in?

Graduated in 2011. Still no job.

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>>130349244
>quality service
>t. Person who has never been to 90% of mom and pop shitholes

They treat their customers like shit and are the first ones to give you the "we don't serve your kind" bullshit.
They also get personally offended if you try to seek customer service.
>Go to wal mart
>Buy thing
>Thing is broke
>Take it back
> Done
vs
>Go to bob mcfaggots shop
>buy thing
>thing is broke
>ALL SALES ARE FINAL
>WE DON'T DO CASH REFUNDS
>IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT YOU CAN GIT OUT
>Do chargeback because fuck them
>get hounded anytime they ever see you again
Fuck em, they dug their own grave.

Walmart won not because of selection or convenience, but because of service.
And it's exactly why they are starting to lose now.

>>130348594
>I'm not ordering food from fucking amazon.

i'd order canned/frozen/boxed stuff. i could never order fresh because i'm so fucking picky about fruit/vegetables/meat. i used to be a meat cutter, so i will go through the entire counter to find what looks best to me.

>>130350707
>What happens next after he's taken over the world?


he might finally get laid

>>130352742
KEK THIS IS WHATS COMING ALL HAIL THE AMAZON REICH

>>130347870
NORTHEAST MASTERRACE

>>130352742
I can't believe I've already gone through my 2lbs of meat for the month... Now I've got two whole weeks before I can get more canned carp.

>>130346952
thank fucking god. once retail jobs go down the shitter I can finally go back to being NEET.

>>130346952
great, but maybe now they could start actually delivering shit instead of it getting lost and me having to write e-mails

>>130346952
amazon is about to be bankrupt, this is their last ditch effort in trying to somehow bring in a cash cow, but Whole Foods is a sinking ship themselves

All natural monopolies are fractal offspring of the monopoly on authority we grant to the state via mob rule (AKA "democracy"). Modern nation states are quite literally giant cults. There absolutely no justification for the redistribution of wealth, intellectual property, or any other violation of physical property rights.

They are called King Soopers in Colirado. In name and logo only. Even their generic brands/floor layout are Kroger.

>>130353863

Carolina here, got Kroger and Harris Teeter. I think Harris Teeter is the more upscale version (it definitely is)

>>130346952
Reminder that this is a walmart shill.
Walmart is the ones that destroyed malls and brick and mortor stores, aswell as american jobs by selling only imported chinese shit. Amazon is the justice they deserve.

>
Reminder that this is a walmart shill.
Walmart is the ones that destroyed malls and brick and mortor stores, aswell as american jobs by selling only imported chinese shit. Amazon is the justice they deserve.


Reminder that this is a walmart shill.
Walmart is the ones that destroyed malls and brick and mortor stores, aswell as american jobs by selling only imported chinese shit. Amazon is the justice they deserve.

>
Reminder that this is a walmart shill.
Walmart is the ones that destroyed malls and brick and mortor stores, aswell as american jobs by selling only imported chinese shit. Amazon is the justice they deserve.


Reminder that this is a walmart shill.
Walmart is the ones that destroyed malls and brick and mortor stores, aswell as american jobs by selling only imported chinese shit. Amazon is the justice they deserve.


sage
sage
sage
sage

>>130376767
Reminder that this is a walmart shill.
Walmart is the ones that destroyed malls and brick and mortor stores, aswell as american jobs by selling only imported chinese shit. Amazon is the justice they deserve.

>Reminder that this is a walmart shill.
>Walmart is the ones that destroyed malls and brick and mortor stores, aswell as american jobs by selling only imported chinese shit. Amazon is the justice they deserve.

Reminder that this is a walmart shill.
Walmart is the ones that destroyed malls and brick and mortor stores, aswell as american jobs by selling only imported chinese shit. Amazon is the justice they deserve.

>Reminder that this is a walmart shill.
>Walmart is the ones that destroyed malls and brick and mortor stores, aswell as american jobs by selling only imported chinese shit. Amazon is the justice they deserve.

Reminder that this is a walmart shill.
Walmart is the ones that destroyed malls and brick and mortor stores, aswell as american jobs by selling only imported chinese shit. Amazon is the justice they deserve.

>sage
>sage
>sage
>sage

>>130363168
I live in TN and have never heard of it in my life

>>130346952
I love Whole Foods, it's the only high end grocery store in Toronto. I hope they don't reduce the quality.

>>130347292
Kroger has almost 2500 stores nationally. They run Smith's in Utah and Dillon's in Kansas as subsidiaries

>Amazon get a a monoply
>truck drivers get automated
>XX millions of jobs destroyed

>>130348880
No, they're called Food 4 Less.

>>130348880
After looking into, I see you're right. I didn't even know that.

>>130349924
i'm only 23 and i remember getting raped the one time it ried to get cgrociers ats a kid

>>130346952
this is to implement that future grocery store video teaser thing they released a few months back. The idea is like have an grocery store integrated with Amazon prime or something. Yeah, they're going to crush everything if they can make Whole Foods sell more than $20 apples and organic tampons. Otherwise, Wal-Mart will very much continue to exist.

>>130356377
>Walmart in Canada is sourced from local farmers. They don't ship tomatoes from China.
of course why would they need to all your farmers are chinese

>>130348260
Yes, I can't wait until I can order a new BMW from Amazon and get a BYD instead.

>>130346952
>They've already destroyed the Malls. Now they are coming after Wal-Mart and Kroger.

It's the future, faggot. Physical stores will be a relic of the past within a decade or two. We'll do all our shopping by our phones and have it delivered within minutes by drones. What is bad about this?