Why were Greeks all Gay and Shit?

Bump because I have always been interested in the same.

It's pretty fucking weird

>>130317730
Mercury in the water, probably.

It makes perfect sense. What better way to discipline a crappy teen boy than to rape his pooper

>>130317730
because muh dick and tight buttholes you dumb fuck

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>>130317805
yes, b/c this is why australians have the superb reputation around here that that they do.

>>130317730
they didn't. most looked down on it as a "vice." The greeks also codified the "sex should be solely for procreation purposes in missionary position only" usually attributed to chrisitians (Stoicism). It was tolerated b/c greeks, in general, had a 3rd world interpretation of sex: you lost face only if you were being penetrated. They were much more concerned with creating stable families to take care of the old as well as the young.

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>>130317730
Garbage like this is why I'm more interested in the Romans, especially the Late Roman period, through which the Empire (and then the Western and Eastern Empires) had mostly embraced Christianity.

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>>130321118

what was the usual lubs back then?

They weren't gay, they just hated women so much they would often fuck men and leave women just for procreation.

>>130317730
Typical pagans

it wasnt all that common

>>130322462
Oil.

>>130323061

Did they have buttplugs?
I know they had dildos

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Classical Greece wasn't as sleek and shiny as it is in the movies, you retard. It was ancient times. People were bored and vicious and depraved. Also, no moralfags were going around saying "it's wrong for you to put your dick in that little faggot's asshole". And if someone tried to do that, he would probably get laughed at and raped.

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>>130323265
Not sure dude.

>>130320413
Pretty much this probably.

I think it was mostly a power thing. To toughen you up or something.

Their philosophy was probably "If you can take an 8 incher up the ass, fighting in battle won't seem that bad in comparison."

>>130317730
the Spartans required men have sex with one another - wetern civ teacher told us that in uni - muh dick and tight ass hole - goddamn that is just fucking sick - shit comes out of that hole - I will never understand what the big attraction is - these guys must have tiny dicks? When it guys cross the line into deviant sex , they literally cannot enjoy normal sex - porn has proven that point - it seems people are trying to normalize pedophilia now in this time -an anon wrote this about anal sex and I copied it because it talks about medical repercussions - imagine a childs butt hole and colon
The rectum and colon was not designed as a sexual orifice. The sensation is similar to self-harm: some folks feel enjoyment from being harmed - it's a mental illness problem.

The walls of the rectum are thin and less ductile than a vagina is. The vagina was designed for a hard pounding; the rectum is designed for pushing out pre-mucus coated feces. Any sort of thrusting into it will tear the walls - even with lube. And to make matters worse, semen has autoimmune inhibitors in it (to get around the woman's high concentration if immunities in the vagina) and those inhibitors work anywhere semen lands. So, the rectum's immunitysystem gets shut off and pathogens run rampant. One reason why homosexuals have a high STI infection rate.

I can't tell you guys how many folks, men and women alike, show up at the ED with torn apart rectums, bleeding and pooping all over the beds, crying and weeping from the pain when whatever drug or how much alcohol that was numbing the pain of it wears off.

And the surgery to repair it is terrible: in the worst cases, they have to remove the entire rectum and install a colostomy valve. Diet is ruined forever at that point; very controlled and with plenty of stool softeners.

Seriously, it's just not worth it. Treat your anus, rectum and colon like they require.

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>>130323586
>"If you can take an 8 incher up the ass, fighting in battle won't seem that bad in comparison."
flawless logic

>>130317730
You already explained why:

Boys gained knowledge and connections by letting older men fuck them in their boipussy.

>>130317730
Because they barely had shit to do

>>130323628
2/10 projecting your personal issues onto others is the acme of propaganda

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>>130317730
because little brown girls(male) are the best

>>130317730
Homosecuality is only really bad today because it is normalized and rampant. These elite men would get together for "symposiums" talk philosophy and science then as a break fuck young tight boipussy, it was just normal and about dominance there was no such thing as "homosexuality" if anything Christians had a more primitive idea of sex and saw it as 2 demensional when everything should be looked at 3 dimensional, Women are for procreation and that should be priority, young tight effeminate beta's who will create weak offspring must be prevented from pro-creating and that can be done by nature or making them sissies for alpha cock.

The only reason a lot of you guys hate the concept is because you were raised differently as well the SJW's are so gong-ho on sucking cock because they believe that doing it is righteous when it isn't. If it was banned entirely I wouldn't care, people would still do it, I'm not really interested in it but others are as long as they don't advertise it or force it on kids I don't care.

tl;dr it was normal, Christianity demonized it because they were ignorant of the reasons.

>>130323628
Lol

>>130317805
>Projecting this hard

>>130322699
>They weren't gay, they just hated women so much they would often fuck men and leave women just for procreation.

They didn't have contraception.
So fucking any women who wasn't your wife had consequences.

But you could fuck as many boys as you liked.

>>130323628
If its a beta male, weak faggot who cares if you tear his asshole and he dies, they're literally only for fucking.

>>130317730
Because they are heathens.

Everything I've read about Ancient Greece suggested that faggotry was frowned upon and sex was encouraged for procreation purposes.

I've read

-plato's republic, plato apology, aristotles rhetoric, Aristotle ethics, aristotle politics. Working on metaphysics and logic.

>>130322699
This is making a lot of sense.

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>>130322699
>They weren't gay, they just hated women so much they would often fuck men and leave women just for procreation.

Yes. They had the right idea.

It was popular for a while, then abruptly stopped and was banned.

Again with the "all Greeks" meme.

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>>130323628
>imagine a childs butt hole and colon

>>130324358
Greek propaganda. Use brain, member?

>>130317730

Maybe they held the same beliefs as Muslims today. Woman are for reproduction, men are for pleasure. Straight Muslim men fuck other men and just say "no homo"

>>130324060
where is this semen demon from?

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>>130324523
breh...

>>130324523
t. muslim is culture indigenous to sweden

>>130324358
Pick up some Epictetus and follow it with Schopenhauer. You'll grow up in days.

>>130324358
This it was frowned upon but not illegal

the way it should be

I was under the impression that most grecian pederastic practices did not typically include anal penetration, and were intercrural instead, with anal penetration reserved for sex with male slaves.

>>130317730
>A trick by the Joos
>attack on Greek family
>mental disorder

Pick one

>>130317730
Warrior culture worships the male body.
Hence very gay!

>>130324393
Wew, she's hot

>>130324000
my personal issue is the idea of hurting a weaker person is repugnant and the medical explanation is what it is
>>130324329
than may it happen to you bro -

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why are anglos so jealous of cultures that actually contributed to western civilization?
Seriously you guys are so beaten down with insecurity and guilt that you allow your (our) nations to be over run with shit then are too scared to actually call out the problem until we are on the brink of destruction.
The colonial success of the eternal anglo was achived by sujigating 3rd world countries and using Italian sailors to discover lands populated by savages with spears that you then subsequently destroyed with superior European weaponry. You almost lost a war against a single country that had only just clawed its way out of a deep depression that you tried to force on it and that was only after you recruited the whole planet to help you.
seriously explain to me why the anglo feels himself so superior.. I really struggle go understand.

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>>130324783
*teleports behind you*

>>130325248
I don't argue with those two, but normal and deviant are matters of opinion, based upon counterfactuals such that condoms do not exist, and your opinion is arbitrary and therfore repugnant.

>>130321118
Thanks for that explanation. I've always been interested in the subject of ancient gay Greek practices. I'm a homophobe, in the real sense, not the watered down "YOU'RE A HATEFUL BIGOT!" sense. It scares the living shit out of me how many people have dabbled in homosexuality and it makes me trust absolutely no one. It sparks my interest in this subject, because I can't fathom why men "experiment" with other men and can still consider themselves heterosexual.

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>>130325248
>It may happen to you BRO
Projection and saying bro isn't a good way to deflect that you're a scrawny NEET.

>>130317730

>Greeks became degenerates

>Greek civilization collapsed

Purely coincidence.

>>130325377
Exceptionalism is part of the anglo culture. If they stand somewhere like they belong there and start barking orders, some people are going to follow them instead of handing out the beating they deserve.

>>130325594
Come over and I'll show you how easy it is to "experiment."

>>130323628

lol ok

i fuck my wife in the ass at least once a week for years. She is fine, and would probably light you up for being a white knight fgt

Boy-boy love is purest love

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>>130317730
>tfw this thread

>>130325728
>Romans became degenerates
>Roman civilization lives through several reboots to this day
Correlation established

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>>130317730
They are the only one with the ability of arts and litterature you nordcuck

>>130324766
Right here famalam
https://luscious.net/c/trap_manga/albums/make-a-matchless-succubus-masochistic_93764/view/

>>130325594
>I don't understand why people try broccoli to see if they like it, and say they don't like broccoli afterwards
wut

>>130325248
big words from you mean you are trying to intellectualize and justify something that is not in nature therefore not natural - no I do not believe animal really have anal sex

>>130325756
i consider them like the annoying little sister of continental Europe. She needs a slap to the head and to be sent to her room while she thinks about what she did and the adults clean up her mess.

>>130326087
Because food is the same as sexuality.

Ok.

>>130326115
I know of one mammal that does it.

>>130326087
Confirmed faggot.

Socrates wasn't. He was lusted after by a popular politician but rejected him.

>>130326274
>i consider them like the annoying little sister of continental Europe. She needs a slap to the head and to be sent to her room while she thinks about what she did and the adults clean up her mess.
Oh God, so much this. If only something could be done about the swole meth-heads in the USA.

>>130325642
whatever man and who was projecting imagined strength you little oik by saying a person or child deserved to die because they were beta -

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>>130325594
A lot of it starts with trap/shemale/tranny porn. The penis is more arousing to look at for a male than a vagina (but the female body is more arousing than a male body) because it kicks in the sperm competition sense in the male. It's why "straight" dudes like their porn to have big dicks in it, and shitloads of "straight" men watch shemale porn, even if they've never tried something irl with a penis.

Eventually some just decide to try it.

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>>130317730
archaeologist focused on the greek classic here
it was considered normal since there is nothing more manly than a man dominating another man in their minds

basically the idea of "not only dominating over men on the battlefield but also in bed" seemed quite important

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>>130327098
addendum
also men were teachers so the idea was partially "a man is teaching another man how to love and fuck"

>>130326854
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I didn't say children. Anyway this is obscure shit no one actually wants any of this, calm down.

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>>130327098
>>130327316
Hellenistic and Classical Greek era was a giant fuckfest but it's fun as heck to dwelve into.

>>130321133

The pre Christian Romans fucked boys and promoted homosexuality too genius, just not to the level of the Greeks. Gang rapes were used frequently in Roman mob politics to humiliate.

>>130327098
I recognize that bulge

they weren't. this is a meme.

>>130327893
was pretty sausage-y in the archaic too
literally gravestones depicting the dead falling to the floor with his erect dick because he is too drunk
not to mention the supposed fucking of a statue

>>130328349
What the hell are you going on about Hitler?

>>130317730
Modern Jew historians exaggerate it to promote homosexuality.

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>>130317730
>were

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>>130322462
olive oil, the prime ingredient of the turkroach national sport

>>130327655
sorry dude maybe I got carried away - the rape of children is the one thing I would have no problem blowing a person away for

>>130317730
>Like modern day pizza gate
> Not knowing the elites are all graduates of mystery schools from the greek and pre greek era.

>>130328453
do you mean the statue fucking or the orgy tombstone ?

>>130317805
thanks for the support, but... aussies are pretty much the same

>>130329252
>thinks that the Dialogues actually happened
That was Plato the Pederast's fantasy. Irrelevant.

boypussy is the path to enlightenment

Fight me

>inb4 degenerate

Was Alexander the great then degenerate? The criminalization of warrior homosexuality happened because some beta ugly monks were not getting any.

>>130327008
Ummm? Just plain no.

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>>130329011
where to begin?

>>130329926
It's true breh

>>130317805
You can't hold polite, intellectual discourse with continental primitives like ze germans. Nice try though, crypto-hans. Maybe those cultish, cliqueish primitives will allow you squat with them while they piss in the future.

Or you can man the fuck up and be a fucking Anglo.

>>130317730
Lol that's pretty gay. Did any of those ancient Greek dildos survive the test of times anus?

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>>130317730
Homophobia is something jewish, aryans were BI or gay as well as the old japaneses.

The other /polgbt/ belong a neet fat KIKE left-wing.

discord 8CXeemf

>>130329606
check my ID i dont hide this.

>>130329907
Great Alex was Macedonian

>>130326087
>hey, try this new flavor of ice cream
>hey, try shoving your cock up my ass

>>130330056
check my ID to see what i think of Anglos.

>>130330340
Iron Maiden taught me that

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>>130329937
quick rundown on the timeline
geometric 900-700
archaic 700-480
classic 480-336/332
hellenistic 336/332-30 B.C
>tombstone
tombstone from the island samos (iirc)
with the deceased getting helped up by a slave with his dick hanging out
>statue fucking
Aphrodite of Knidos
"The statue was so lifelike that it even aroused men sexually, as witnessed by the tradition that a young man broke into the temple at night and attempted to copulate with the statue, leaving a stain on it."

>>130330340
macedonians were greek

Because white men are naturally homosexuals

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>>130330526
Informative and enlightening somehow

>>130330621
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYkCi_0XQj0

i guess you're right.

>>130317730
Gayness is white genes like celts perfered to sleep with men. Romans gay. Victorians gay. Modern whites gay

>>130330526
>Cumming on a statue
Ancient hot glueing

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>>130317805
you did it again

>>130330526
>The statue was so lifelike that it even aroused men sexually, as witnessed by the tradition that a young man broke into the temple at night and attempted to copulate with the statue, leaving a stain on it."
and there is the reason for the decline of the Greeks

>>130330177
BurgerKike here; yeah, you can't pin homophobia on us. Pretty sure every culture that wasn't in a state of degenerative decline had a fairly negative view of homosexuality.

Then again, I'm not a huge fag, so what do I know.

>>130330635
>>130330937
More gays are black.

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>>130331053
except this happened before Alexander
also to be fair i can see how pic related could look hot painted especially if you've never seen a statue sculpted like it

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>>130331338
because black women are fucking ugly, niggers also prefer white women

I think there us a possible explanation. In ancient athens premarital sex was prohited.Imagune living in a small town where everyone was naked and women wete confined to the "Estia". How could little athenians learn about sex ? In their daily lifes they communicated only with other men.cause schools were only for the rich and didnt provide sex courses. Plus their equivalent of pornhub was fighting the persians.

>>130317730
Yes, it was fringe. Read on it. Only the high class did it and it was hated by all the others.

>>130317730
>I ask this in genuine curiosity and good faith,

No you don't you lazy shit or you'd study the subject instead of asking for spoonfeeding on 4chan.

>>130325594
Phobia, all of it, is weakness as bad or worse than faggotry.

>>130317730
They wasn't. Socrates was executed for his crimes, but gay-mafia was created and it enslaved this world of unaware goyim.

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>>130332135
>mfw /int/ and now /his/ made me interested enough in a subject to major in it

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>>130317730

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gayness and pedophillia are spread equally
around the whole world
only in recent years has anyone tried to stop it
only white people have tried to stop it
from Africa to Japan and the Middle East
you can find vast amounts of homos and pedos
both conditions are defects of the human condition
kill the defect
fix the problem

>>130317805
We're just speaking the truth that Europe is doomed

>>130317730
What sources are you basing these claims on? Because a lot of the fag shit is not true. Xenophon, Socrates, Lycurgus and many others spoke out firmly in opposition to homosexual relations. The only organized, state-sponsored example of faggotry that there is strong evidence for was the Sacred Band of Thebes.

>>130317730
in sparta, pederasty was used for bonding between older and younger soldiers.
they mostly lived together for training and whatnot, it was a tight community/brotherhood.

but the older soldiers still had young wives, who they visited occasionally. only when they retired from being soldiers they spent more time with them.

>>130332647
>angloscum
it's because of people like you that Turing got crippled, you an idiot whit a nigger IQ who is emasculated and controlled by women try to kill people that are better than you in almost every possible way

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>>130317730
Haha lol what are you talking about? You burgers can't even compete. I travel a lot so I have been to both Greece and America a couple of times, and let me tell you that never have I seen perverted paedophiles like I've seen in America. Pizzagate couldn't never have happened anywhere but the shithole that is America.

When I first came across the "omg Greeks were so gay" stuff a few years ago I believed it, but nowadays I know it's just a projection from you liberal (((intellegentsia))) trying to normalize your kiddy fucking desires to the rest of us civilized people. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if i found out that most of the gay greek pottery was made by burgers.

Get rekt you faggots, and leave us white people alone.

also s.m.h. at people here acting like prudes over sexuality.
who gives a shit, really, as long as you have a functioning society. and for that, there are things that are more important than where you stick your penis.

>>130333153
i really wish anglos would stop the jew tier devide and conquer shit.. I think they're alright but they seriously need a nice disciplinary beating.. Some tough love. They cause way too much trouble among the west, annoying little sisters they are.

>>130333649
they will never stop, their endgame is just destroying the white civilization of which homos and not faggots are part of it