Christian General

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KV6PXSODgE

Schismatics BTFO

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Can we appreciate the Presbyterian and episcopal ranks.

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And the holy mass.

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Divine Liturgy > Novus Ordo "Mass"

christianity isnt european

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The missions which brought converts to Christ and to sanctity.

Praise our Loird Jesus Christ and His Most Holy Mother!

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>>130309160
Looks European to me.

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>>130309325

>>130309160
Europe is dead. Europe had a lot going on for her when christians were in power, now it's just degeneracy and hippies playing asatrú.

>>130307054
Funny thing about Catholics complaining about Protestants is that tons of now secular and anti-religious European nations were once Catholic. Do I have to point out France, Germany, etc.

>>130309426
Europe can rebound, with a religious awakening.

It's like, at least our religion is not about LARPing all day long, right guys?

http://www.burzum.org/img/gallery11/big/photo211.jpg

>>130309456
Western Europe has turned secular and atheist. Eastern Europe stays strong.

i.e Poland.

>>130309578
As long as it is christian...
Sadly, islamism seems more likely these days.

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>>130309160
The Church is both universal and particular - it's European in Europe, Russian in Russia, Persian in Persia, and so on

>>130307111
2 Timothy 2:14
Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.
2 Timothy 2:23
But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

Good Christians don't argue over scripture.

>>130308382
why are there benches in the orthodox church? its unthinkable here

>>130307054
The logos is the Christ - the logos is not God wholly. He is the word of God, made flesh.

The trinity is heresy.

The Father alone is God.

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>>130309789
Sounds like any other form of Jewish globalism.

>>130309621
Oh, yeah one Catholic country is obviously more successful, than how many used-to-be Catholic nations? Catholicism has just as much to blame for degeneracy in Europe than protestants. Catholicism also corrupts Christianity by having large numbers of cultural Christians.

>>130310201
Christianity freed men and women from the Jews. Christianity frees men and women from all institutions.

>>130310123
unchristian.

whats the actual difference between christianity and judiasm? is it only muh jesus?

>>130310471The biblical views of Isaac Newton were considered heresy as well. He was connected to the universe is holy ways dawg.

They should have listened to Arius more during the council of Nicaea. Oddly enough, the books they chose to compile the Bible I find perfect.

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>4.5 billion years of evolution
>Billions of humans dead
>Thousands of technological and scientific advancements
>And you're sitting in front of a computer pretending to worship a dead jew from the bronze age

>>130310201
The first greentext is already wrong because there are tons of Christians that consider tradition and nations to go hand-in-hand with Christianity. Also, how are traditional values thrown away by helping out others? That doesn't make any sense.

In Christianity, wealth is seen as causing corruption in a person, you can still be wealthy, but are encouraged to give to others or help the community to avoid being tied down to materialism and abusing power/influence.

>>130310657
in* not is.

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>>130309736

>>130309621
Eastern Europe strengthens after decades under the iron curtain.

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>>130310201
It's only superficially like globalism in that they both try to be universal. Christianity is closer to Indo-European universalism in this aspect. Did you get the Scheler book yet? There's a free pdf version if you look it up

>>130309789
Correct. The Church respects Nations, and Nationalism. Nations that protect Nations, Peoples, Tribes, Language, Culture, History, but United in Charity and Harmony through The Church.

>>130310486
Are you retarded?

Christianity rejects that Jews are God's chosen people by claiming that every human has access to salvation. Christianity also establishes that Jewish law is no longer applicable as the new testament condemns a lot of what's in the old testament (i.e. killing people for sinning). You have the story in which Jesus told people to throw the first stone at a lady if they haven't sinned before, he's also called out pharisees for being hypocrites.

Christianity is different from Judaism as it practically rejects most of qhat Judaism is. Christ himself is seen as a false prophet for the Jews.

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>>130310766
atheism stronk

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>>130310391
The Romans burned the temple to the ground while the christcucks want to rebuild it. Pagan armies are the only forces who were able to destroy Israel and loot it.

>>130311161
Apparently so, that would probably explain why your Jewish """faith""" is on the decline.

>>130311274
Christianity is always triumphant at the end. You and your marxist buddies will loose again, get over it.

Paganism serves the same purpose as Satanism. It's just more pc.

>>130309456
You are right, like Sweden and England too... Oh wait...
Also only parts of Germany are catholics

>>130310471
The word was always with God, but was never personified or made flesh until formation in Mary's womb.

John 17:3 (ESV):
And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.

>>130311419
Sure it will pal
Also
>Marxist
How does accepting scientific theory make me a Marxist?

>>130307054
>God
>Logos

top kek

>>130311163
We don't want to rebuild a heretical temple building to resinstate Old Testament worship.
https://www.fisheaters.com/juliantemple.html

>>130311656
Just read the prologue of John, dude.

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>>130307054
Daily reminder: Roman Catholics have partnered with Jews to destroy Protestant hegemony.
Do not give these priest molested dirtbags the time of day.

>>130310767
How can you consider yourself pro-nation and pro-tradition if you worship a foreign religion that tells you all of your old myths and occult knowledge are evil and forbidden? And that you have to worship the same god as the Jews or your going to hell? Also helping people is fine, but Christians were the first virtue-signalers who went so far as to try and bring shitskin and subhuman tribes into the civilized world as our equals. Christian missionaries continue to work hand-in-hand with the libcucks in feeding and providing medical care to dangerous niggers. This wouldn't matter so much if you weren't actively helping the liberals to flood our white countries with subhumans.

>>130310995
I'll read it but it seems to me that it's too much of a bizarre coincidence that Christianity and Marxism, two universal anti-occult ideologies, both sprang from the Jews.

>>130311702
Christianity does not exclude scientific development.
Atheism, on the other hand, is one of the pillars of modernity and marxism.
You and your ilk are the ones pushing degeneracy.

>Embracing the demiurge

>>130311163
So you must love arab paganism then.
Did you know arab paganism evolved into Islam?
You should convert immediately.

>>130311163
>while the christcucks want to rebuild it.
>doesn't know about Julian the Apostate
Why don't you go and look that up

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>>130307054
I give you the chapel of St. Peter in Fritzlar. Built by St Boniface out of the wood of the Donar Oak, the sacred tree of Thor. Heathensm fell with this tree

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>>130311163
The temple stuff is pretty interesting friendo - traditional Christiandom taught and still teaches that a Jewish Antichrist will reign over the Third Temple. For us just about the most evil thing one could do is build that temple

https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-antichrist
>They showed the temple to be the Jewish temple, rebuilt by Antichrist in Jerusalem. Rather than the bishop of Rome, the early Fathers identified the Antichrist as a government official—a king coming to power in the ruins of the Roman Empire. He would probably be Jewish, possibly from the tribe of Dan. And most importantly, rather than claiming like the pope to be the vicar or emissary of Jesus Christ, he would claim that Jesus was not the Christ but that he was instead.

>>130312162
Not my race so those semites can go fuck themselves. However, you have to admit that if the Arabs never got ABRAHAMED they'd probably be less of a scourge than they are now.

>>130312128
You seem to not understand, so I'll ask again:
How does accepting scientific theory make me a Marxist?

>>130312483
They never changed. In fact, it has only calmed them down.

>>130307054
Bump

>>130312110
Gee I don't know, maybe because christianity was part of our country for a millenium and a half and almost fucking everything we have was more or less inspired by it?

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>>130312911
This

>>130307054
Bumping

>>130312483
If a cultist didn't write himself into abrahamic religion fan-fic style and incite a conquest attitude, they'd still be in the desert. Mohamedans are a cult gone mainstream.

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>>130311725
Do you not know what Logos means?

Christ is the WORD of GOD, the SON of GOD.

God is the Holy Trinity - The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Are you like the ragheads, who can't understand the Trinity in any way?

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>>130311702
>>130312128

I'd just like to take this opportunity to say... Thank God for this Jesus character... Without Him I would not have made it.

>>130313709
Nigga...there are lots of Christian scientists. Hell, the guy who invented the MRI is a creationist. I'm talking about evolution.

>>130312911
That's bullshit, Greco-Roman and Germanic polytheist tradition is still deeply ingrained in Western society. The rediscovery and resurgence of Greek polytheist knowledge lead directly to the enlightenment and the industrial revolution. The story of western civilization over the past 2000 years has been one of clawing itself back to its former glory after being cucked by a Semitic religion.

>>130307054
Bump

>>130307054
Mary didn't ascend into heaven

>>130307054
you are saying it like the Christians on /pol/ aren't atheists looking for some "spiritual hole"

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>>130307111
you can twist scripture as much as you like, but in reality you're a cult of satanic pedophiles that have poisoned the world

you're the Jews of Christianity, and anyone who doubts that after Vatican II has no brain

>>130314647
The guys who made that video are sedevacantes

You'd know this if you stopped to watch the video or look at their channel

Instead you just proceed with a shallow shitpost of accusations

>>130314068
What the fuck are you talking about, what greek resurgence led to the enlightenment?
Greco-roman influence is a direct result of catholicism, and laws left by the romans of course. Nobody would have give a shit about aristotle and plato if not for monks who argued about their works for centuries in universities (another tool that made Europe the dominant power)

>>130314865
>Greco-roman influence is a direct result of Catholicism
The Arabs were fans of Aristotle, too, though

>>130315025
Yes they were, but that's easy when you have your hands on their books
I'm not denying Averroes existed

>>130314865
In the Middle Ages the Greek classics were barely discussed outside of monasteries, there is a clear resurgence of classical knowledge that occurred at the beginning of the early modern era. You're right about the Greeks and Romans being the first to spread Christianity en masse to Europe but this was only after they had rotted and declined to the point of being a multi-culti, libcucked, mongrelized shithole.

>>130315605
What I'm saying is that catholicism absorbed greek, roman and even pagan shit
To say that christianity is foreign to Europe is nonsense, catholicism is european

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>>130307054
Can we talk about Cyril for a moment. That guy destroyed the entire Islamic religion in a few sentences.

Reminder that if you're not a Distributist you are not following Catholic social teaching and have likely been misled by Jews somehow

>>130307054
Paganism =/= Atheism

Atheism - The lack of belief o f any religion or religious entity

Paganism - The belief in many religious entities

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https://youtu.be/HZjS4s8yi_g

>>130316169
How?

>>130317646
That is really nice
What is your favorite christian related piece and why is it Saint Matthew passion by Bach?

https://youtu.be/UnilUPXmipM
Love Gabriel Faure too

>>130317646
You can get me some anti-pagan material pls?

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>>130320333
I will post some of mine

>>130318050
The saracens asked him why he won't follow their faith. After all they also honoured all the christian prophets and their God was the same. He responded with "If what you are saying is true, then you honour David too. But David said that Christ will be the last prophet. So how can you honour David and Mohammed at the same time?"
He also told them that their religion simple(doesn't pose any mental challenge) and material, their God unable to control their anger(a.k.a. Not a religion of piece), and that they only need to serve in order to go to heaven, not "work" on their immortal souls.
And they tried to poison him like peacefull muslims.
(Couldn't find any english translations of the text)

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>>130320333
Against the Neopagans by Evola is breddy good

you do understand that orthodox church are a bunch of sandniggers right?

Does anyone have the picture where it's the Viking guy talking about how the only truth is strength and only the strong survive, and the next picture is him crying saying how the Christians hurt him?

It looks like >>130311163

Have another neat music
https://youtu.be/E3eODmwrnoU

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>>130323694
Got u senpai

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>>130324047
This is really nice

>>130323328
>One of the 2 patriarchies not created by Christs group of Jew missionaries
>Sandniggers
Nice try Ahmed.

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STOP WORSHIPPING A DEAD KIKE ON A STICK

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Is it possible to be a Christian but not to believe in some things literally, like the virgin birth?

I've thought about converting to Catholicism or the Orthodox Church but I can't bring myself to believe in things like miracles.

What do, Christian /pol/?

>>130327029
Because you were protestant you dumb fucks.
>>130327110
We are worshiping the fact that he came back, unlike Hitler
(desu I am just LARPing)

>>130327882
no you are worshipping a desert jewgod and his son the kike

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>>130327556
Lex orandi, lex credendi. Start praying brother

>>130328321
>Lex orandi, lex credendi
So are you saying that belief in miracles is necessary, but, through effort, I may come to believe? Just trying to understand.

>>130309992
>>130309992
we tend to sit during the homily, and sometimes use the kneelers on days like Pentecost. also my congregation is mostly elderly, so a few of them have trouble staying on their feet for the entire Liturgy

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DEUS VULT, MY CHRISTIAN BROTHERS!

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>>130328777
Nice trips, and yes. Belief follows action and action in this sense means synergy with God, which we learn to experience primarily in prayer and contemplation

>>130328777
fake it til you make it bro

>>130329711
>>130329753
Thanks for the responses. That sounds reasonable and I will try.

I know this is a tricky question and I don't mean to cause a debate by it, but are there any practical benefits to choosing between the Catholic Church and the Orthodox?

The only one I can think of offhand is just that there are more Catholic Churches near where I live, I suppose because there aren't many Greeks or Russians around.

>>130330246
Alexis Carrel, nobel prize in medicine convert to catholicism because he saw a miracle by himself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_Carrel

>>130330246
Try going to both and see how you feel. Pray on it. Personally, I wasn't very satisfied with Mass; it was like watching the same unenthusiastic play every Sunday. At Liturgy though I actual felt as if I was a participant, not just a spectator, and that my absence would be missed. The Mass goes on with or without parishioners in attendance whereas you cannot have Divine Liturgy without the lay congregation participating, at least according to my priest.

My parish is Russian orthodox. Don't mistake Syrian or Coptic Orthodox for Eastern Orthodoxy - despite the common denominator or 'Orthodoxy' in the name, the former split off from the Church hundreds of years before Rome did.

>>130307054
>Catholic
Absolutely degenerate

>>130310201
Jewish globalism is "universalism," which denies the particular. Making it not truly universal but in actuality a form of unrestrained abstraction.

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Hmmmmmmm

>>130309160
>Christianity isn't European
>Europe was wholly Christian for over a thousand years uninterruptedly
>Therefore Europe wasn't European for some thousand and more years
Enjoy your new reality.

>>130309736
Stop projecting your kike puppetry onto others faggot.

>>130310315
>Catholicism has just as much to blame for degeneracy
Gas yourself immediately.

>>130311163
>The Romans burned the temple to the ground while the christcucks want to rebuild it.
Who is Julian the Apostate you fucking projecting God-forsaken fucking nigger.

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>>130307054
>tfw irenaeus predicted Rome(an catholicism) would be destroyed, and when it was it would usher in the anti-christ.
>tfw Byzantium and Latin legs of the statue of Nebuchadnezzar are destroyed, and all what is left are the 10 toes of Iron mixed with clay.
>tfw orthodox and catholic don't know they are part of babylon, or the city of men

>>130310471
bible makes it pretty clear, Jesus is the son of God. a Son is created by the Father. >>130310123
is roughly correct

>>130310657
I find it ironic the second Rome called Arian Christians heretics, they were destroyed in 410. the Germanics that sacked Rome weren't pagans, but Arian Christians that were baptized, led by A Christian King, Alaric. by their own logic they consider Constantine a heretic

it's strange, i left the church when i was teenager eight years ago for atheism, but i literally this week had an epiphany that christianity is the final redpill, and the true savior of the west. would you believe that upon this realization that i was instantly bombarded with christian imagery everywhere i went? even right here on /pol/, we were given the templar flag. i believe that the lord may be guiding me back to his flock. i plan on attending my first mass in nearly a decade tomorrow because i once again believe that the lord is living!

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>>130334729
>>130334611
>>130334517
you've really defiled yourself with what has come out of your mouth.

>>130307054
>Catholic and Orthodox
What are these, O.P.? If I'm not mistaken some kind of religion practised in the far-flung corners of Europe, right?

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Some of you have that christian ancestors image?

>>130335504

That is wonderful to hear, I'm excited for you. When I went back to mass for the first time in years, it was a very meditative and peaceful experience. I hope it is just as wonderful for you.

>>130335504
Good on you, man.
It's important now to learn about the nature of the faith and it's elements. Check the recommended reading in the OP.

>>130336269
Not at all.
Catholic is the largest and arguably oldest denomination there is. Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Christianity are the other denominations with the claim of being the oldest.

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>>130339510
Gnosticism is older than Christianity in general by a few hundred years. Roman Catholicism didn't start until 380 under Theodosius II

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every time I pray, He answers through one way or another
my faith has been unshakable in recebt years and I hope it continues to be as such

>>130307054
PAPISTS NEED TO GET THE FUCK OUT

THIS IS NOW A PROTESTANT THREAD

LIEVER TURKS DAN PAAPS, PRACTICE YOUR PAY 2 PLAY FREEMIUM MOBILE (((CHRISTIAN))) IDOLATRY ELSEWHERE

>>130339880
That's not at all true and there is no evidence to such a claim.

The central Christian Gnostic claim is that apostolic authority is passed to Judas, which runs against any historical telling of the event and also would mean that God's authority is lost when he promised otherwise.

Animosity between Roman Catholics and Protestants is now over:

Matthew 5:22 "But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell."
Raca==Aramaic for Contempt
Keep an eye on your leadership Roman Catholic bros. Put scripture first.

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>>130340383
>The central Christian Gnostic claim is that apostolic authority is passed to Judas,
well, I can tell you that this is not true at all, and there is no evidence to back such a claim. this is actually probably the biggest lie I've ever heard in my life.

the idea of apostle succession is a pharisee invention. and besides that the closet thing you're talking about gives Authority to James, not Judas. Judas died, remember? even in the gospel of Judas he talked to Christ about how he would die very shortly after betraying him.

12. The disciples said to Jesus, "We know that you are going to leave us. Who will be our leader?"

Jesus said to them, "No matter where you are you are to go to James the Just, for whose sake heaven and earth came into being."

gnotiscism in itself is the study of the resurrection, and the idea that God will come into the flesh, and die for the good of mankind, which is a concept found in the Theologies of several cultures.
1 Samuel 2
“The Lord kills and makes alive;
He brings down to [d]Sheol and raises up

quite frankly you can find Yeshua's name in the old testament using the science of the Kabbalah, which in itself is very useful to prove the Old Testament has an origin outside of space-time, and its science can be applied to the new testament as well.

>>130335282
I find it ironic the second Rome called Arian Christians heretics, they were destroyed in 410. the Germanics that sacked Rome weren't pagans, but Arian Christians that were baptized, led by A Christian King, Alaric. by their own logic they consider Constantine a heretic

Nice copipasta

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What's the deal with atheist redditors treating Mother Theresa like she ate babies?

>>130342080
old kike kek

>>130312039
Luther said Catholics and kikes were cut from the same cloth, looks like he was proven right once again

>>130312039
>>130342649
You're both retarded