MGTOW Men Ignore Their Duty

No, you have a duty to your wife and family.

Motows are just scared betas, or men who've gotten fucked over in divorces(who I do have sympathy for).

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>>130303806

It must be difficult to be a modern woman.

>>130303581

>be a strong independet womyn who need no man
>hang yourself because you can't get married
>media and feminists blame men

I think I understand MGTOW a bit more now, and I don't think that's a good thing.

>>130303581

MGTOW> white knight cuck

>>130303887
Not really. And I don't understand what significance these stories have. They obviously had underlying mental issues that should have been treated.

>>130303887
jealousy is a bitch

>>130303581
Yeah they are just a bunch of pussies fleeing from adult responsibilities using trivial excuses because they are too retarded to find a decent woman.

>>130303581
No

>>130303581

MGTOW>Spinster

>>130303581

Women had a duty to be chaste and obedient too. Find me a Chaste and obedient woman and I'll be the perfect husband.

>>130303581
Yeah, but now a third party is involved, and that's political correctness. Men aren't allowed to exercise their masculine authority in relationships which makes women see them as weak and pathetic and also resentful about having no strong men in their lives.

>>130303887
Know how men were told "go to school, you'll get a good job and a nice girl", but there were no jobs and only sluts?
Women were told "fuck whoever, whenever. You'll always be desired because you have a hole", but they were lied to also

>>130303581
>>130303887
Boy, those years of taking mad schlong and partying like a crackwhore in their youth really paid off, eh?

>>130303581
>duty to women?
No. What kind of duty do you think we have? We don't owe you shit, get over it.

>>130303887
>Killing yourself instead of just trying to actually find a partner
Obviously no one is going to partner with someone so unstable. People like this are doomed to fail when they just think "No one loves me time to kill myself"
No shit no one is going to marry you.

>>130303887
>struggling to get over a break up
>Break up was 5 YEARS PRIOR
>she tried to do a "cry for help" hanging

Why do these fucking women keep making MGTOW threads over and over again?

>>130304406
That's your problem dumb nigger, no one is going to find you a good girl, and the girl is not going to come to you.

You're a man. You're supposed to be the aggressive one. There are plenty of good women out there. What the fuck are you waiting for?

>>130303806
>Motows are just scared betas,

But wait. 40% of women are obese in the US. 90% are sluts. 50% have illegitimate children.

I'm just not one of the lucky ones who get a woman who is worth it. Sexual parity is a thing of the past. A big majority of women are trash . Their would be husbands in clouding me would rather be single.

>>130304556
To remind you how much of a pathetic cuck you are.

>>130303581
The only duty man has is to find success and keep it.

>>130304556
Trying to shamed men into setteling for dinner at Arby's.

>>130303806
You mean over 50% of men? The perversion of the institution of marriage, by the state, will be the downfall of society.

>>130304636
Top kek. Try leaving the south

Those percentages are totally wrong

>>130303581
>Don't modern men sort of have a duty to women?
Nope. Feminism won them their freedom. I hope they're all enjoying it.
Don't be a doormat, lads.

>>130304442
They weren't lied to. Any slut that's taken 20 miles of dick IS still desirable just not to prime Chads. That's why they kill themselves. They'd rather die than accept one of their orbiters.

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When society is ill, when you feel no attachment to the world around you, it is not time to resign yourself to solitude and death. It is time to brazenly live for virtue.
If we want women to be women, we must encourage men to be men, because it is men who must moderate the behavior of women. It is men who raise daughters and teach them morality.
It is true that a mother's job is to nurture children, to watch over them as they grow, but it is a father's job to ensure they become adults.

>>130304640
Except I'm not, roastie.

>>130304287
>because they are too retarded to find a decent woman.

Listen, you got 100 women in a room and 100 men. 80 of the women have ridden the dock carousel and have had the clap. 40 of those women are also obese. 30 of those women have bastrard kids from other men. In the end you have only maybe 10 women who are even worthwhile. I applaud the men who don't settle for human trash.

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The sexual revolution switched us from being a primarily pair bonding species to a tournament species.

Women are only now balking at it because they realize that while some might land pretty much any dick they want that doesn't translate into landing a good man.

>>130304640
BAHAHAHAHAHA
Ow god. Sweetie. You keep using that word "cuck". I'm not sure you know what it means.

>>130304720
>Arby's without the curly fries

Biggest mistake you can make desu.

>>130304850
>MGTOW
>Not cuck
Choose 1, Adolf.

>>130304778
I live in NYC and those percentages, while hyperbole, are what people say here too. There are fattys and sluts everywhere.

>>130304720
what the fuck it says you're a nazi

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I'm far too busy developing my skills and gaining knowledge to have time to court a female or procreate.

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>>130304640
>pathetic cuck

The term cuckold has lost all its meaning. You niggers are becoming worse than SJWs. Don't change the meaning of "cuckold" the way young retards changed the meaning of "literally".

Not getting into a relationship with a woman is the very antithesis to cuckoldry.

Btw traps are superior

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>>130303581
>>130303806

pic related: the only post about MGTOW that ever mattered.

>>130304872
That's called playing into your league. You can't get 10/10 pussy when you are a fat autistic neckbeard.

>>130303581
everyday there's a thread with this 2 year old article why?

>>130303887
jesus christ just be obedient, nice and not a slut

how is that difficult ? I know the media tries to force women to do the total opposite but common sense still exists

>>130304913
You don't know the definition of either these things, roastie.
Check your cunt for chlamydia, that itch must be making you pretty desperate and retarded.

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>>130304947
Is that iggy pop?

>>130304623
Not supposed to be the aggressive one in this society. Not supposed to be in charge. Our generation has watched in horror as the generation that came before was was destroyed by divorce courts. No thanks.

>>130304623
>You're a man. You're supposed to be the aggressive one.

I make moves on women constantly. I get to know them then realize I don't want to live a nightmare and walk away.

>There are plenty of good women out there.

but there literally aren't.

>What the fuck are you waiting for?

A chaste and obedient woman.

I would be happy to get married if I met someone worth marrying.

>>130305101
Why are you butthurt then? Truth hurts, Adolf?

>>130304927
Nyc is a shithole filled with foreigners, Puerto Ricans, niggers, Jews, and the worst of the white race.

I think I found your problem

Men are obligated to produce and distribute the ever-increasing quantities of cat food, litter, collars, etc.

Also buy stocks in companies which produce such things.

>>130303806
>Motows are just scared betas,

A lot of men who have done the pickup thing are MGTO in practice if not in name. After the forth or fifth woman who texts her husband she didn't tell you about right after you finish you start to get a bit, shall we say, jaded.

>>130305027
There are max 20 "good" women (not total sluts) in that room and 100 men. Not matter how much you "play into your league" 80 men will not have a good woman.

>>130304623
lel. You sound like a bitter bitch. If a woman likes a guy, she will always or mostly talk to him and be by his side like 24/7. You as a man just need to improve yourself and be patient. Just don't take any girl, who throws herself at you and observe them carefully. Bitches can't fake their personality for a very long time.

The best way for white men to make many more white babies is to go pharmacies in white areas and poke holes in the condoms. If you do this once a month, you'll be the cause of at least one new white baby. Plus - no child support and you don't have to raise the little shit AND you don't have to deal with its cunt mother.

>>130303581
>get married
>have kids
>wife decides she is still youthful and you are sucking her life from her
>divorces you so she can go to clubs and parties
>gets fucked 10 times a week by tyrone and jamal
>takes half your shit in the divorce, and future salary
>gets custody of kids
>turns kids against you
>kids grow up to be a slut/loser like her
no thanks
I'll wait 10-15 years for artificial wombs

>>130304877
No the "sexual revolution" was just a giant sexual regression. Human beings ceased to be animals and became Humans when the institution of marriage was put into effect. Once monogamy is destroyed, society rapidly falls apart and the law of the jungle quickly returns.

>>130305027
>That's called playing into your league. You can't get 10/10 pussy when you are a fat autistic neckbeard.

I'm 6'3" 215 lbs of pure muscle and program robots for a living. I date fat women with children sometimes,but find myself revolted by them. I make moves on less shity women but they are always already in a relationship.

>>130305442
this is how Slavs are made btw

no wonder your countries are 3rd world and Aids-ridden

>>130305131
Why does this photo keep getting posted? Who is this? Is it Iggy Pop?

>>130303806
Yes, to your wife and family. Roastie whores aren't family nor will ever be wives.

>>130303887
My ex a few years back was like this

She was pushing the agenda and I'm not really for marriage myself so that was the end of everything

>>130305442
>wants white babies
>doesn't want to have kids himself
Kill yourself hypocrite.

>>130305442
This seems like a good plan, also do this at Costco so those trophy wives have to explain to thier rich husbands where the little town baby bump came from.

>>130305406
>tell a mgtow beta that he has to be proactive if he wants to find a non bottom of the barrel slut
>y-you must be a woman!

Lel

>>130303581
I'd really like to try dating soon because I'm at the latter end of my early 20s. But at this point it all seems hopeless to me. I've never even kissed or been friends with a girl. Sometimes I go on OkCupid to look around, but almost all of the girls on there are fucking crazy. For some reason, they feel compelled to spew their political bullshit immediately, with stuff like "intersectional feminist." I know sometimes people meet at work but that doesn't seem too promising to me. I've always wanted to have a family but it seems to late at this point. I feel like this is shit I should've thought about when I was 15 or 16, not 23. I've thought about bringing this up with my therapist but I'd probably seem insane.

>>130303887
>modern

it's always been that way. there were always women who failed to secure a husband and were left over. the one big difference is that they used to be dependent on their relatives if that happened but can just get jobs now

>>130305770
*too late

>>130304640
>>130304556
To try and convince you to just hand everything over to them even if they're god damn insufferable.
Hole =/= value.
They need to learn to be valuable human beings, who people can tolerate to be around.
Men will be more willing to invest in you if you aren't a cunt.

>>130305748

>tell a roastie that she isn't worth the effort of raising her shitskin kids
>y-y-you must be a neckbeard anyways!

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Does the fact that the standards are being upped a bit affect some men choosing to avoid women?

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>>130304623
>You're a man. You're supposed to be the aggressive one.
Oh wow, traditional gender roles much???

???

>>130303581
>>130303887

This is why marriage and family as institutions must be destroyed. Look what the pressures did to these poor women.

>>130305442
Holy shit is it hard believe that people like you exist.

>>130303806
70-80% of men are "betas" in the eyes of the average woman. And since obesity is super high, the limits the number of women men bother pursuing. Since there is so few quality women, the few quality ones just share all the chads till their 30 and barren. So if you are a beta, attempting to enter the sexual market place is a wast of time till you're 30 and have earning potential, at which you should scoop up on an 18-24 year old with a low partner count.

>>130305748
>you sound like a bitch
like is not the same as must be. don't try to distract from the content of my post with a sloppy greentext.

>>130306117
obesity is only high in your country

>>130304556
Because they know they are holes.

A woman will be worthy of a man once she understands she is a hole and to serve.

>>130305489
>have a friend from russia
>he got married to a german woman in russia
>she popped out two kids back there
>moved to germany
>doing alright, enough money to keep everyone well fed
>he's almost done with his degree and after that he starts working at some top restaurant in the city
>turns out nothing's great since they moved in
>germany is far more liberal and female degeneracy is encouraged
>she's been telling the hubbie that her friends at work (some are married) keep going to clubs to have fun, while she has to go home to look after her kids and make dinner sometimes
>tensions rise
>both are almost 30 year old
>decide that divorce is the best way to solve the problem for everyone (kids are like 4-6 year olds)
>she gets absolutely everything, he has to rent a hotel room, where he works
>moves to cologne to make some money

He could handle it much better, but still - another fucked up family unit, the kids are devastated

>>130306014
>(((bloom)))
>thinking kike propaganda is reality

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how can a woman ever be stressed?

go out and get fucks 4 times in a week by 4 diff guys you pick for looks

lol

I mean jeesh

>>130305235
And women were the ones who voted for all that.

>>130304803
Orbiters are only 20% of men as well. The problem for these sluts is that 60% of men who are neither orbiters or chads won't touch them due to their whoring ways during their 20s, and those 60% are the men they were always meant to be with. But due to "female empowerment", they had access to chad dick for about 14 years, and thought they were ultimately entitled to it when in reality, they were just a fuck hole to the chad.

>>130303581

Nature has given men only one duty, to stick their dicks in holes.

>>130306117
Where do you niggers live who keep saying there are so many fat wome?

This is not normal. Either you're making it up or you live in a complete shithole

>>130305770
don't get so worried man. the average age men are marrying now (if at all) is close to 30, which mens half marry later than that. just start planning now.

here's some guidance if you feel overwhelmed:
http://www.socialmatter.net/2017/06/12/how-to-catch-a-wife/

>>130303887
>died when a 'cry for help' attempt to take her own life accidentally succeeded

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>>130303581
>Don't modern men sort of have a duty to women?

As they starved for equality since decades, now they have it.

No duty.

They fought for it.

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>>130303581

It's really quite brilliant what the Social Engineered did.

They made Women become Feral again & have them turn against the Society & Biological Purpose.

Then they weakened Men & Denied them opportunities & Distracted them.

>>130303887
>>130303581
There's a beta orbiter somewhere crying to himself because he never made a move and now it's too late.

>>130306444
that shithole is called the US breh. perhaos you just don't notice the fat ones just like chicks don't notice your ugly ass

How fucking dare you.
I have no duty what soever to anyone.

Grow up, I am not your caretaker, you are an individual and you need to pull up your fucking socks and shut the fuck up about other people owing you shit.

kill

yourself

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>>130306085
>Look what the pressures did to these poor women.

Did the pressures of family do that?

>>130305770
OkCupid is filled with broken girls who are either fat or psycho. I went on a date with a cute girl their whose father just died, and on the date, all she talked about was Harry Potter and female empowerment. Then she had the nerve to call me submissive, when all she did was rant about stupid bullshit for 2.5 hours.

>>130303581
Why do you keep posting this article over and over again? You won't get anyone from 4 chan to marry you. Give it up.
You are only promoting the mgtow cause. Then again, go ahead, keep bringing up this article over and over again, you are doing a good job.

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>>130303581
REEEEEEE!!!!!
IM FUCKING SICK OF SEEING THIS THREAD EVERY DAY.
THIS IDIOT BITCH DESERVED TO DIE
FUCKING SHILLBOTS SLIDING ALL THE GOOD THREADS
SAGE IN ALL FIELDS OR KILL YOURSELVES FAGGOTS

>>130304556
Misery loves company.

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Does anyone have the screencap of that time some supreme autist was able to calculate how many miles of dick OPs girlfriend had taken because she told him she'd fucked a lot of guys in college?

It was truly the GOAT as far as autism on 4chan goes.

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>>130305933
An indignant woman will not learn this lesson, they're already grown, and will not change. Choosing to live alone, choosing to spite them, this will not change anything either however.
The structure of society must change, and men are the only ones capable of bringing about such change. To improve the lot for future generations you must dig in your heels and push back against the tides of dysgenic culture

Tradition begets value, value begets character, and law falls in line with the character of the people. People of strong moral character produce strong moral families. Strong families change the face of the entire nation.
You must become part of the cure, and you cannot do that alone and childless.

>>130306621
Don't get mad at me because you live in a shithole state and can't find a decent woman.

>>130306444
>>130306621
Texas alone is almost as big as Europe.
You both forget how much space we have between places.
Of course things are going to be different depending on where you go, no?

>>130306445
That's a little comforting.

>>130306666
OkCupid does seem to attract a certain type of female. They're basically living caricatures. I guess you need to use a premium dating site if you want any success. That or hope that you'll randomly meet someone.

>>130306444
30% of american white women are obese, and another 20% are overweight. That leaves 50% normal women, of which 30% are feminists, sluts, or both. That only leaves 20% of women being normal, of which they are snatched up real quick. The men getting the least amount of sex are actually the mid to upper betas, as the chads are getting a lot of sex, and the low tier betas are fucking fatties. It's the average guy whose missing out on relationships due to a shortage of normal women.

>>130306665

Yes, families that other people had.

Nope but ending kike privilege is the best way to help everyone.

>>130306971
Where are you getting these percentages?

>>130304623
>You're a man. You're supposed to be the aggressive one. There are plenty of good women out there. What the fuck are you waiting for?
Wants men to uphold their traditional gender roles.
She's a feminist.
Seems legit.

>>130306890
Texas is a bit larger than France.
If there is a state the size of Europe. It would be Alaska.

>>130306014
>Does the fact that the standards are being upped a bit affect some men choosing to avoid women?

Strange, because modern women have nothing to put in the deal anymore.

Lazy sluts brainwashed by feminism.
Don't know how to cook a simple chicken/smashed potatoes.
Can't handle a brow to clean up the home.

Exceptionally nice looking women may require more than big money to marry. Logical fact, but concerns less than 1%.

>>130306842
>can't find a decent woman.

Don't want one. Every single one of them is a whore. Christian ones are the worst. I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole, let alone marry one and have kids with it. Truly disgusting.

>>130304872

And in many places in the country, particularly the liberal enclaves, the number of "good" women drop precipitously. Dating is a horror show around the D.C. area, for instance, and it's no wonder it has the largest amount of singles in the country. Even married, these women don't hold their end of the bargain. I'm constantly revolted by how many times I've been hit on married women.

>>130306921
You can't meet women in normal life anymore because 1. Their face is buried in a phone 24/7 2. If you hit on them at work and you are not a chad, you're going to get fired and 3. Everyone is either working their tits off with no time to mingle or do stuff in public (hence the increase in online shopping) or is unemployed and doesn't have money to leave the house. You can only meet women online today unless you are a chad.

>>130307302
How does it feel being gay?

>>130303581
>Don't modern men sort of have a duty to women?
Yes
Beta men failing to lead them is the reason for societal collapse

>>130307200
Cuck

>>130307357
What sites do you use?

>>130306890
Texas has 700 million people?

the number of fat Americans is over 70%

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm

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>>130306575
>imblying that Roastasaurus Sex would ever accept anything less than a 10/10 Chad

>>130307409
>How does it feel being gay?
At least, he's not under the thumb of a bitch.

>>130307302
>every woman is a whore

Top kek. You sound like a bitter bitch, the very ones you complain about

>t-there are no good men anymore!

Mgtowism truly is the other side of the feminist coin

>>130306665

I was best buds with a girl at school, until she went off the rails at college and hit the cock carousel hard. Tried to fuck me but I didn't want any of it, and she flipped her shit hard.

We got back in touch now we're in our 30s and she's so full of regret it's hilarious. Literally nobody wants her due to the fact everyone knows someone who has fucked her, and fucked her like a facial abuse girl at that. Due to the fact that her once good looks are now ravaged, she's fat, wrinkled, looks 10 years older than she is thanks to booze and sunbathing for 15 years.

I only talk to her because she's a supreme lolcow and hearing her be bitter about the fact me and my friends are married when she called us all nerds and losers at college, well it's quite simply delicious.

>>130307200
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-women-hit-milestone-for-obesity/
Also, women are more likely to be obese than men, further limiting the number of quality women.

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>>130303581
here we go again. the daily MGTOW thread with the same image. lazy kikes

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>>130307579
Are you saying that yuri is the future anon?

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>>130306725
Me too, the same fucking thread by the same dried up bitter fucking bitch with nothing better to do than spread the message about MGTOW (which is not bad, but that wasn't their intention I guess)

>>130305235
>"LEAVE FUCKING DIXIE YOU FUCKING REDNECK HILLBILLY MOONSHINER!"
>"I'm from the North East"
>"...WELL YEAH IT'S FUCKING NEW YORK! GO TO UTAH AND TELL ME I'M WRONG!"

Sad.

>>130303581
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

>>130306445
Just wanted to say, that's now how maths works but okay.

>>130303581
it's called tinder ya bitch

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>women

>>130307596
>Also, women are more likely to be obese than men, further limiting the number of quality women.

The delta between modern women physical aspect and their expectations is huge.
But on the other side, a fatty guy can't expect a top model.
It's all about expectation/reality.

>>130303806
100% approve of this message!

>>130304257
>>130304872
>maybe 10 women who are even worthwhile.
And there are probably only 8 men looking to marry them
If you are looking for a pure wife the odds are actually in your favor

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>>130304720
If your fine tits can't get us reservations at Dorsia you can fuck off

>>130306518
It's not brilliant. Something tells me this has been done before. It's also no coincidence that literally every religious text warns against degeneracy like this. It's called degeneracy not because it's morally wrong, but because it literally degenerates the foundations of civilization.

>>130303581

Duty to hit them in their fucking mouths and to let the white race die if nigger love and nigger lovers are the new standard for us all. They whore really should all us great evil white men. Hows your 80 IQ pet tonight nigger lover?

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>>130304500
Seriously. Mental stability is high up on my list of requirements for a partner. It should be for everyone.

Don't modern women sort of have a duty to men?

>>130306740

That thread was hilarious. In all honesty we SHOULD have a mileage gauge on women to determine how much usage they've had. If every man reported who he fucked to a centralized database we could determine it easily.

>>130304947
>Btw traps are superior
kys degenerate faggot

>>130304818
Based

>>130308222
you can't be a weeb and mentally stable. it's unnatural and repulsive for a grown man to consume cartoons aimed at little girls

ITT feminists masquerade as men trying to place blame on men for women not being worth marriage

>>130307697
>Are you saying that yuri is the future anon?

No. You can't tell him he's gay simply because he rejects modern Christian women. He may have other goals/expectations.

Personally, I don't want marriage, hates modern women, still have a "decent" girlfriend/sex partner.

I made a choice, and will never insult/blame another guy such a way other people may understand I'm the little doggy of a slut out there.

Rejecting modern sluts and behaving accordingly doesn't make you gay.

But, for sure, being the little dog of a modern slut is quite gay nowadays.

>>130308222
Says a chick? Your tribe is the one getting away with being EXTREMELY obnoxious, and autistic, in public all the time. Please.

>>130304406

They open their mouths when they shouldn't. Talk back to your 85 IQ nigger pet. Yours and his IQ are more related. Dumb + Dumb PERFECT FIT!

>>130303581

No.


Goddamn /pol/ is full of feminists.

>>130306014
NIce image. Men now need more than money to be 'marriageble'.
How about "Women now need more than their used up, STD ridden hole to be 'marriageble'.

Ha! Woundn't that be a better article title?

>>130308346
You can say the same about people being on 4chan.
It's certainly not healthy being here.

>>130303581
this pic is pretty damn funny

>>130308222
You can't post on 4chan and be mentally stable either so looks like you're out of luck kid, nothing personelle

White knight nationalists are quickly becoming the most pathetic sub-group on /pol/.

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>>130308346
>>130308530
>>130308559
Bingo, we're all fucked unless we find a partner as mentally unstable as ourselves.

>>130308589
I highly doubt there are that many white knights on this board, it's either kikes or dumb bitches larping as men.

>>130308530
people come here to discuss politics that are otherwise banned from public discussion forums in all of the EU. we don't have freedom of press and freedom of speech like USA. underground anonymous boards are the last stand for getting any alternative views

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>>130303581
>Want to settle down
>Doesn't mention the wildly unrealistic expectations of said women

>>130308042
>And there are probably only 8 men looking to marry them

In my experience no. The fat ones with kids are always single and the normal ones are always in a relationship. Trust me. I ask.

>>130307592
mgtow is a symptom of feminism. There is nothing stoic or empowering really about it. It's really just accepting the state of society and attempting to find some little happiness within self accomplishment.

>>130303581
Well apparently they tried, but all what beta males got from her was getting called a dog (?)

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>>130308649
From my experience with dating women from 4chan.
It's not worth it. They're all neurotic, controlling and stalkerish.

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>>130307592
But it isn't. Women don't want to settle down. They're the ones who make the choice now. Once they're married, they will still cheat, breh. Had three married chicks ask me to fuck them, and one almost left her husband for me before I gtfo of the job and cut contact for their kids.

They act as a hivemind. When they want to settle down, it is only after they've participated in public sex, or gangbangs and shit in high school and college. They all end up doing this shit. I live in a small town and all that shit happened.

There are only so many women in the world. There aren't enough chaste ones.

No one wants to have kids with a whore.

Traps breh. Women are disgusting.

>>130304947
The cream of the crop of any degenerate subset will be better than the average of any normie-tier shit, good luck to ya though

>>130303806
roastie out

>>130303581
I'd have shot my babbys into that whore.

>>130304442

The west is failing because White woman want to be whores. Kikes have programmed them well even us men too but the woman are far worse.

>>130307565
Never said that, I said the orbiter thinks he had a chance.

>>130308710
True, but you have to sift through thousands of posts each to find anything of sustenance. Plus, not to mention, the amount of disinfo on this board is pretty bad.

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>>130308521
fucking This

>>130306666
fuckin CZECHED

>>130308766
Plenty of single not fat girls at my church

>>130308987

They the psycho would get an abortion because of an arguement with them.

Damned if you Do Damned if you Don't

Its how the 60's Marxist kike shits wanted it.

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>>130303581
I'm not MGTOW but fuck off with that "duty" talk.
Modern society has no right to ask anything of it's STRAIT CIS PRIVILEGED FUCKING WHITE MALES!
There is no duty, fuck off with that shit. We owe you nothing.

>>130308898
>But it isn't. Women don't want to settle down. They're the ones who make the choice now

>>130306223

That really was a devastating experience. Not that I needed much evidence of women being decadent gullible hedonistic fuckwads. But at first glance they appeared to be a healthy family

>>130308866
Sounds like my kind of girl.

>>130303581
Men have no duties towards trash

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>>130308898
waiting for HIV test results is no fun, no fun at all

>>130303581

I don't have to take care of her baby Tyrone.

>>130303581
Nein Nein Nein

fuck off

>>130309092
>Plenty of single not fat girls at my church

I went to church too. I talked to the women there. They are all waiting until just before 30 then will marry, crap out one token kid to pin a man down for the remainder of his life. Not very good prospects.

>>130304092
MGTOW means you don't own us. Period... Kinda like an ancap


Funny how the colors for both are the same...

May critical birth decline cause anarcho capitalism

>>130303581
No one owes anyone anything. The government needs to be completely abolished and then women can stop talking about their fucking 'rights' and other bullshit.

Just use Instagram you sappy little boys. I made an account last year and just posted random shit like working on my friends boat, cooking random dishes and posting videos of my cats and other assorted wildlife. A girl followed me and we started talking, now she desperately wants me to give her a baby.

They're out there guys. Just gotta bee yourself. You won't attract the hive but your busy little bee will come buzzing.

>>130303887
>he needs to be 6'5+
>make 500k a year minimum
>12 inch dick
>no kids
>no wife
>completely subservant, but dominant and asserting
>could have been a model, but chose helping kids and animals, but still making 500k +

Bitches are crazy af.

>>130309379
Modern women married the government not men. So let them lie in their own bed.

>>130309443
Forgot to mention she's only 20.

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>>130309535
kek. It's funny how men always get the most shit for watching porn, but women have gone completely batshit insane from porn and erotica.

>>130309443
>you won't attract the hive

that's the problem. their japanese cartoons promised them a harem when they were at a tender age and it imprinted on their brains

>>130308346
>not being mentally unstable

Git out of my 4chan, normalfag.

>>130307865
Most men get this though. I don't see fat men mad that they can't get stacies. Actually, fat men get laid more because they go with women who are also fat. The men who get fucked over in the current market place are the 6/10 to 8/10 betas, as the women they should be getting access to are fucking the 8/10 to 10/10 chads who use them as cock sleeves. This is ultimately bad for society, as those 6-8/10 betas are the most capable fathers, and should be breeding the most.

>>130303581

One girl I wanted to marry 20 years ago half German/Jewish. She wanted to run off to college to whore first. Once she finally married and had kids. Her 2 first kids came out autistic. When I impregnated her when she was 18. She killed the baby. May kikes suffer as much and more as they claim. May their bodies be burnt and strewn threw the earth. May their souls be crush and banished into oblivion. May their homes fall at their feet and their blood flow into the ground.

>>130309741
kys horsefucker

>>130306666
In her defense, listening to some bitch talk about harry potter for 2.5 hours is pretty submissive

>>130309443
4/10 b8

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>>130309020
Young women merely think they want that lifestyle. As they grow older, find themselves lacking fulfillment, they come to realize what they've done wrong, or they double down and become the sort of bitter individual who writes for the Huffington Post.

No one wants to live this way. Not truly. Hedonism is anodyne only for a little while. Alcohol will lose its euphoric effect turning only into a numbing agent, parties become an exercise in painful introspection as one sees the youth around them, now contemplating their own age. Loneliness, horrible alcoholism, and opioid addiction is the fate of many single middle aged women. This is the result of a life being wasted. Even if the corrupted mind is incapable of recognizing the cause of the malady, the subconscious and spirit know it well.

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humans are fucking disgusting. No more, be gone!!! Ecchi and Yuri forever. 2D > 3D

>I HOPE MY RACE DIES
I HOPE MY RACE DIES
>I HOPE MY RACE DIES

>>130303581
No matter how beautiful she is, some guy, somewhere got sick of her shit.

Men don't have any fucking duty to women, it's more like the other way around.

OP is a faggot.

>>130309792
Are you a retard? When was it ever implied ITT that I was a ponyfaggot? Seriously, you're a cancerous nigger.

>>130306808
It's more of a note, I'm not choosing to be alone, I already got a good one( probably like a 8)

Passed up loads and was more than willing to say "yeah you're not tolerable, I'm fucking busy and don't want or even need to put up with you."
People are throwing around allot of numbers in the thread but they're forgetting some; the over sellers, women who pretend to be a 10 when they're like a 5 at best.
They come in MANY ranges (some are 8's but like a 2 in personality and actual value)
The thing is I've seen these women take on men who were like 3's, but they're horrible human beings DO NOT GET ONE.
Someone who is nice, fateful, loving,smart and like a 5-6+ (AND NOT A CUNT) is worth more than even an 10 who is awe full.
The person you chose should be like a best friend to you, consider having to live with them for the rest of you're life.

Well, what did you expect? You have no one to blame but women for this. Abandoning their roles as women but expecting men to fulfill theirs is beyond retarded. Historically, both men and women have offered something that makes families work: the man works and the woman takes care of the children and the house, or the man works the field while the woman prepares the food he brings, etc, etc. It's a delicate social contract. Now thanks to feminism we have a society where men are expected to do X, Y and Z but women shouldn't be expected to do anything because that is sexism. So the social contract is broken, the balance is broken and men simply don't trust or need women anymore. Now it's come to the point where society either learns to function without marriage and without families or it ceases to exist as we know it.

>>130309906
same shit kys

>>130306014
All those Haggard sluts look pissed off.

Boomerposting in the face of White Sharia is an old past-time I see.

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>>130309988
No it isn't. Get the fuck out.

>>130309655
Most women's Erotica is worse than the most degenerate fetish porn. It's like the get off on deeply psychologically manipulating Alpha Males. The same Alpha Males that are constantly taking them by force. They claim rape culture as rapists plague their sexual fantasies. Women are at war with their own sexuality.

>>130309535
The whole "submissive but also dominant thing" pissed me off the most. When I act like a gentleman, they call me too submissive. When I act like the distant cool guy, they call me a jerk. Their is no winning unless you are a 6'1" pussy, whose height projects "alphaness" but personality is actually beta. When you're 5'6" like me, if I act nice, I'm "submissive", but if I act like a cool guy, I'm a jerk.

>>130310098
yes it is you sadsack

>>130309862
You're spot on. Men pass down learning lessons to other men in order to prevent others from making the same mistakes they made. Women bitterly attempt to lead other women down the same trail of despair. I've noticed this quite often as of late.

>>130309856
Her father just died, I didn't want to be rude. Plus, everytime I asked her something, she gave a quick answer and went right back to stupid harry potter or comic book shit. Rule of advice: DON'T DATE NERDY GIRLS

>>130310149
>Women are at war with their own sexuality.

That truly is a problem with some women. Men too, presumably.

More the reason for everyone to meet each other halfway and forgive a "shady past".

>>130304636
I'm going to need a source

>>130303581
I wanna see a debate between a MGTOW guy and somebody that thinks that it's their duty to have as many white babies for the future race war.

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>>130309862
https://youtu.be/VsUMuybkJso

>>130310298
>You're a jerk!

>Sure love.

>Talk to her friend instead.

>Watch expression on her face twist.

They fucking hate that, and it's fucking hilarious.

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>>130310484
>forgive a "shady past".

Not a chance roastie nigger slut. Your future involves sucking dick for crack and cheeseburgers till you decide to kill yourself from the shame.

>>130310436
Most men want other men similar to them to succeed. Women want other women to fail.

>>130310583
Just start a MGTOW thread and watch it live

>>130303581
Heil Caesar

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>>130303581
Don't fuck niggers. It's not complicated

>soy
>in
>food

>>130309543
False, the government marries everyone and thereby proves ownership, as the government is an entity which has enslaved everyone and robbed them all of their true potential.

>>130310627

Look another standard for more white whores.

>>130310436
Misery loves company.
That 40 year old woman who wants all the younger girls in the office to go out every weekend. The one who drinks far more than everyone else. The one who is painfully obnoxious That type of person is living a hollow life underlined only be the crippling emotional pain brought on by lack of fulfillment.
A drowning person will latch on to anything and drag them to the bottom, especially another person.
>>130310627
This video appears a perfect example of it.

>>130303581
she is a cutie but i have no sympathy for her.

>>130310685

We all have pasts. Pasts gave us our present.

And the only thing we know for sure is that we cannot change the past.

So why not throw the past where it belongs? Into the past.

All that matters is the future, anyway.

>>130303581
'Modern' women are a lost cause. We need women who embrace woman's natural role. (Woman's natural role is MOTHER, you idiot).

>>130310524
>>130307545

>>130310484

I've learned woman live their pasts everyday.

You get with a woman who has an X.

You'll hear about them and when the bitch was in highschool stories for the 100th time. Nice picture to bad you're a fat barren cow now. Am I the nice guy you always wanted to die with? FUCK YOU WHORE! SUCK MY DICK AND MAKE ME A FUCKING SANDWICH YOU FUCKING WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT!

>>130304086
you've certainly got the basics.

>>130311101
A past Is still a chosen path, it says allot about a person.

>>130303581
On one hand, not everything wrong in the world today is part of a massive judeoreptillian conspiracy as /pol/ seems to generally believe.

On the other hand, blame postmodernist destruction of values and increasingly radical feminism for the woman problem of today.

Men have no duties towards women, just as women have no duties towards men. As long as the rights of others aren't in danger (and by rights, I mean actual rights, not "rights" aka right to free money or right to everyone caring about my feelings), men and women are free to choose what to do, and live with their choices.

I'm not going to go into the roastie rhetoric prevalent on /pol/ as there's no way of knowing if the OP woman was really a roastie or just had bad luck or something. But the fact remains that no one owes you romantic attachment, and if you're so weak willed that that drives you to suicide, then you would likely have killed yourself over something else even if you did have a husband.

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>>130311101
Truly profound. What a revelation.

You're damaged goods. Your value is completely lost because you had no father with the balls to beat the shit out of you.

Traps + surrogate mother

>>130311101
But her past indicates her character and maturity, and it would humiliate me to be with a girl who has "hooked up" with guys she just met, done porn, etc.

>this will be the thousandth time OP has made this thread
>he is getting exceedingly efficient at it

>>130303581
Fuck that I missed out on when the girls were virgins 15-17 ages I'm not going to become some bitches sloppy seconds
I don't want used goods, I don't want to be a beta provider.
It is my choice and I choose not to.

>>130311101
Women don't let go of the past. Women who have been with a high number of men make horrible wives, as they compare their current lover with a composite uberman that is comprised of all the best aspects of the men she was with in the past. If her current man is deficient in one or more areas, it is likely she will cheat to get that deficiency. Women with low partner counts make better wives as they only have a few to no men to compare their current man to. It's kinda like that meme of a woman asking herself "Is this the best I can do" after sleeping with superman, cause while superman might be great, she may have slept with a guy who was funnier or had a bigger dick in the past.

>>130311257
>>130311257

Protip: you will get happy enthusiastic sex from your wife if you stop throwing every indiscretion in her face when she puts her head on your shoulder in bed.

You wanted to be with her for a reason, didn't you? Focus on that.

>>130304947
The only thing people are changing is the definition. The meaning will always be the same, ALWAYS. A little peenie weenie beta boy who needs a MAN to do a real MAN's job. Reminder that not all men are meant to procreate or even have sex. That's why traps are here in the first place, to please the unmentionables, the bottom's bottom feeder.

>>130304623
Meh not worth the trouble. Don't blame me for your own personal problems.

>>130310031
Of course they are. Their only valuable quality is their beauty, and that is slowly fading away every year.

>>130303581
>>130303887
This kind of shit is like porn to me. I love knowing these roasties are offing themselves. There are consequences to your actions women.

>>130311477
>done porn, etc.

Now that seems to be a reasonable line to draw. No men or women who have done porn.

>>130311526
Wait till you are 26-30 and scoop up on a 17-23 year old with a low partner count. Don't date women your own age, as the only men they will fuck till they are 30 who are the same age as them are chads.

>>130311428
Men do have dutys towards women in many "progressive societies" however. The government collectively gathers resources from "undesirable" men and subsidizes the irresponsible procreation habits of women within that society. The state is completely perverting the process by which sexual interaction is supposed to occur. Literally taking potential sexual market away from some men and paying for the procreation of others. This process skews women's sexual attraction and they types of men that receive sexual gratification.

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>>130311604
This is where you can go roastie. Don't raise kids though.

https://www.surrogatemothers.com/

>>130311732

Nope. Some have standards. You're another roastie. Rome had the right idea when it came to traps.

>>130311780
he's in Lithuania. his country has 3 million people and the average female age is 43

>>130306890
TIL texas has over twice the population of all of U.S combined.

>be 27
>jew york city
>screw with dating apps being an asshole
>only getting 30+ year old girls matching with me regularly
top kek. these whores really are desperate

>>130311604

You don't get it. A man shouldn't ever have to deal with any of those indiscretions. Woman don't get it that they are reckless and selfish. They choose to be worthless. Its what they and Marxist kike shits want. These are the results of the last 50+ years.

>>130311780
I don't want to

>>130311101
>We all have pasts. Pasts gave us our present.
Your past tells everyone what sort of person you are. Living in the present without learning from the past is a naive idiotic notion that only an absolute imbecile would suggest.

also show me your flag Syrupnigger, Svensker or German

>>130304092
women would actually consider Mgtow the opposite of a white knight, retarded newfag

>>130311881
I get your point. When saying "men have no duties to women" I meant that more as a normative statement than a description of reality. I'm aware of state-subsidized single parenthood and the involvement of the postmodern state in the dissolution of the institution of family.

>>130304640
found the whore who got an STD from a nigger

yah and this worked out 50 years ago but then women tripled their demands and stopped performing their duty to men...

>>130311604
We don't want used up roasties with withering wombs. Many of the quality men here who are not getting sex will eventually get it when they get good paying careers, but they are not going to settle for women their own age. They will instead go with 18-24 year old women with low partner counts, and the 30 year old women will have to choose between super betas (not normal betas) their own age, or sucking baby boomer/gen x dick that's at least 15 years older than them.

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>>130303581
they made their bed

>>130312032
it's an Anglo 100%

>>130303581
>>130303887
>so vapid that you cant even bear to be the only single one in your social circle

christ, imagine living like this

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"MGTOW" is a misnomer. It's women who are going their own way. Some men simply choose not to follow them off the cliff.

>>130312148
perhaps... I just cant take anything posted with a fake shitty "flag" seriously.

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>>130306890
>>130307207
europe is tiny

>>130311428
>a massive judeoreptillian conspiracy
I think that's a small but very vocal minority on /pol/ tbqh.

>Men have no duties towards women, just as women have no duties towards men.
Unfortunately, women have more legal rights than men now, for example men pay for women's birth control through taxes, funneled into orgs like pland-parent-hood, and they win most of the child custody battles. Also, they can trap men into paternity and alimony, even if the man is not the biological father.

Also, "modern" culture on TV glorifies bad behavior from women, including complaining about their man to other people, and now even cheating, emotional or physical, is glamorized as empowered.

While the image of the husband and father, even in commercials, is very disrespectful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOGdgvbX5Ls

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>>130312126

>>130303581
Nah, I'm happy playing video games as they are more interesting than Women. Funny that, awful SJW infested video games with bland stories, microtransactions etc are more interesting than Women.

>>130312107
TV brainwashed women badly. Feminism took away their maternal nature, but TV gave them unrealistic expectations of the type of men they deserve.

>>130311101
fuck off back to red dit

>>130303581
So do women IMHO.

Maybe they should stop being whores, and think about themselves rather than their family. Well, maybe they should simply walk down the road of the family, but that's the thing, they walk down the road of whoredom and "I want to find myself" and think there's a family at the end.

>>130310669
>calling a girl "love"

And you wonder why you've never been laid.

>>130311604

Yeah because she said we could have a family together. To bad on the way to the doctor for her cervical cancer she forgot to mention she was getting a partial hysterectomy with it. There goes the family factor out the window. She's happy anyway. She has her single trophy child for a single white whore. Her and her KIKE masters are very happy.

>>130311558
This is accurate.
My ex would text me irregularly for about two years after our break up when drunk. She would whine about her new boyfriend, how his dick wasn't as big as mine, that he still lived with his parents when I had my own house, etc etc etc.
She didn't want to get back with me (or maybe she just knew I wouldn't take her back) but she couldn't let go of her desire to own the positive traits I had.
I can only imagine that this is a similar situation with so many women who have whored it up and it's the main reason why I refuse to date/commit to used up women now. I know I'm a good man, I know I bring value to a relationship but I don't trust the female mind anymore, I just don't trust that these chicks can let go of all the dicks they've had throughout the years.

>>130312414
I love how women are only just now starting to see the error of their ways now that Trump's in office. They were happy being unhappy on the carousel, however paradoxical that is.

Women love running shit right into the ground.

>>130312428
They won't stop being whores until the government stops being their daddies/husbands. If the government ended welfare and made pre-marital sex/infidelity illegal, women would go back to being good girls real quick.

Modern "men" are pathetic
>plays video games
>Doesn't exercise
>Prefers to stay at home rather than go out partying
>jerks off to anime and/or porn
>No sense of honor whatsoever

>>130306740
How was it calculated? Like average dick is 5.2 inches or something and then the average length of sex is 2 minutes and the average number of pumps per minute is 60? So 120 pumps x 5.2 = 600 something inches of dick?

Or was it just each dick = 5.2 inches?

For it to be miles I think you'd have to count each pump

It's hilarious. I don't even need to make replies of substance to these threads anymore since people are doing it for me. Women are playing a dangerous game of chicken with men, but they are the only ones with anything to lose. All we have to do is stay the course.

>>130312565
any evidence of that? the articles posted itt are several years old

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>>130312238
>europe's shittier version of canada
>pontificating about ANYTHING

LMFAO get a clue, delusional little faggot bitch.

>>130312482
>And you wonder why you've never been laid.
By girls who wouldn't even give you the time of day.
Have you considered that maybe you should gain experience before having (picking up others) opinions?

>>130312283
I agree with you, men (in real life) do have less rights and more duties than women do. My statement was a normative claim - perhaps better rephrased as: men should have no duties towards women, and vice versa (unless previously agreed upon in sound mind and free of will between a man or a woman - like the contract of marriage - and most definitively with as little state involvement as possible, ideally with 0 state involvement)

>>130312485
>To bad on the way to the doctor for her cervical cancer she forgot to mention she was getting a partial hysterectomy with it.

Please tell me you are trolling.

A husband who will not fully support a wife with cancer is not a true husband.

>>130312684

They counted each pump.It ended up being like 15 miles or something. High mileage

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>>130303581
Not when women feel no obligation to husbands and children.

>>130312740
You're on 4chan bud. Most here haven't seen a vagina, myself included.

>>130312652
>>plays video games
>>Doesn't exercise
>>Prefers to stay at home rather than go out partying
>>jerks off to anime and/or porn
>>No sense of honor whatsoever

Women made them that way by denying them sex in their younger years, so they held onto all of their childish interests in hopes of fulfilling their school age fantasies they never got.

>>130312207
I never really thought of it that way. Good call.

>>130303581
And how many men commit suicide because their harpy exwives deny them thier children and gouge alimony to the point of abject poverty.

>>130311944
You say standards like you think you are above anyone, you shit eater. It's the funniest thing when the lowest echelons of men think they can really match up to anyone. It's purely ironic, almost like this shit writes itself.

>>130312652
That's right, a real man is subservient to 1 woman alone, cheating is for video game playing nerd losers.

>>130312782

We were engaged.

>>130312717
>europe's shittier version of canada
What on earth are you talking about? Canada and Denmark have nothing in common. Is this some new autistic meme?
kys nigger

>>130312871
t. angry roast beef hole

>>130310298
If your 5-6 and want to score, you basically have to become a sociopath gangster type. Sorry to say.

>>130312985
My dick is longer, fatter, and more vascular than yours. I assure you, faggot

>>130312652
It's a vicious cycle because "modern" and "popular" culture has this image of men, so guys act this way because they assume that's just how it is, and if they want to be more, they check out of society and fall off the radar because that's all of the respect they would get anyway.

Currently we're expected to be teenagers until we turn 35, and after that we're like homur-simpsun.

>>130313071
We got a badass over here

>>130312841
I know man, That's why I was attempting to help people out a bit.
It's weird that in a place where nobody knows who we are, certain insecurity's "trigger" people and cause them to spaz out.
It's like "Dude I'm trying to fucking help you"

>>130313014

Just be gangster. Be a soldier. Be a thug. I think of myself like an ancient man and it works. If a lanklet steps up to you beat their ass. Lanklets are soft these days

t. 5'8"

>>130313071
There's no way a dude would get this angry over trap posting.

You're a chick. Go back to your 50 Shades of Grey and stick a cucumber up your smelly hole

>>130312782

She was also one of those crazy middle aged bitches that asked me to ask her to marry her. Essentially she was trying to trap me the whole time. Wasted the last 5 years of my life. Another worthless selfish whore. Used up with only so much to offer to someone who needs so much more. Proves she was loveless. She just wants. Wants what she wants like all good bitch whores. I don't even know why I was with her. She was a snobby bitch.

>>130313071
muh dik

>>130313127
Is the only thing you can spew is memes? Like fucking seriously dude? This is why I don't feel bad about white genocide.

>>130313244
>I don't feel bad about white genocide.

Your posts made me feel just the same.

>>130313244
how butthurt is this guy rofl

>>130313071

While erection size is a factor, it pales in comparison to foreplay and afterplay and the ability of a man to simply listen without falling asleep after a woman has achieved her own happy moment.

Men rarely understand that simple thing.

>>130313166
Insecurity is rife today whether it be on here or in the real world. Even muttering the word "manlet" for example causes a ruckus amongst the insecure. All you can do is offer advice.

>>130312849
Exactly. In freshman year of high school, I asked out a lot of girls and was starting to give up things like cartoons, anime, and video games. I got laughed at, to my face when I asked them out, in spite of having an 8/10 face and being fit. One girl even asked one of the girls I asked out why she said no to me, and her answer was that she wanted a guy who could drive, in spite of her and me being 14. That year was demoralizing to me, so I said fuck it and recluded into being a nerd. Now that I've been working out for the last 3 years (I'm 23), 16-17 year old girls find me hot, but it would be illegal for me to date them. So unless you are a chad or willing to be a pedophile dating high schoolers, you're shit out of luck on the dating scene until you are 25.

>>130304092
You destroyed my mind. Holy fuck.

>>130312772
Agreed, men and women should have equal *political* rights.

>like the contract of marriage
Interestingly, marriage contracts are selectively enforced to benefit women, for example they get half of the money in divorces, but they are not punished for infidelity, even if fidelity is part of their marriage vows.

>>130313240
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>>130313127
Are you guys this psychologically inept? Are you even trying to win the argument or do you just want a pissing match?

>>130313519
>psychologically inept

yes

>>130303581
As someone who has had a girl for last 3 years, i really enjoy the time we spend together, everything is working out as it should. Although I enjoy this kind of relationship we have, I'd never bother with having a serious relationship in america, the court fucks me over, my masculinity is seen as being abusive, the princess mentality of the west is working against men. I'd spend my time in america improving myself, and then move somewhere where i could act like the nature intented, and have a gf that admires that kind of behavior.

>>130313425
That's a little pessimistic, I had girlfriends my age throughout the 18 to 25 range. Just have to persist like with job applications and so on.

>>130313620
:(

>>130303581
Not when they decided we're irrelevant. Let them neck themselves.

>want to fuck around like a slut for since 16
>turn 3 0
>wants to be treated like a teenager
>still party like a 18 yo
>wants to settle down with a millionare who treats her like a princess
>somehow her low market value over fucking for 14+ years is "weak men" 's fault
I don't like MGTOW, but women who don't take care of themselves and go whoring around till they are 30 and suddenly want to settle down are not attractive.

>>130303581
>Don't modern men sort of have a duty to women?

Not anymore, it's called equality.

>>130307813
median, my bad

>>130313647
>the princess mentality of the west is working against men

much of this so-called mentality is a myth

>>130313838
>I don't like MGTOW

You'll like it once you realize that all women are like that

>>130313425
Sounds like you hang out with the wrong people, they're vapid as fuck.
That girl will most likely wind-up 40 and used up.
Do things you like, go to things for things you like, you'll find better people.

>>130313647
Women can't help what they're attracted to, no matter how much they've been brainwashed by feminism. So they end up wanting you even if they disagree with what you say.

The problem is the corrupting influence of "modern" culture, they've been told that complaining about you to other people is normal, cheating is empowered, abusing you is cute, and you have to fight all of that. It helps to cut the cable and stay away from holly-would otherwise.

>>130310298
>The whole "submissive but also dominant thing" pissed me off the most. When I act like a gentleman, they call me too submissive. When I act like the distant cool guy, they call me a jerk.

Be yourself and stop caring about women's feelings and emotions.

>>130312116
lmao so true