$1.5B U.S. Aegis vessel collides with a container ship

Sailors* you fucking civie.

>>130298757
At least we didn't have to buy our sailors back with pallets of cash in random currencies this time.

>Filipino container ship hardly damaged
MOST

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>>130298757
>7 soldiers missing

>>130298757
the sailors are probably just chilling in the engine room.

>>130298757
The destroyer must have been made in China

>>130298829
no one cares

so a civilian merchant ship has the capacity to take down a military warship?

kek

>>130299480

yes, these aren't battleships that could take a pounding and keep going. These would probably sink if you looked at them too harshly.

>>130298757
idiots

>>130299480
inb4 new trend: ships of peace

>>130299480
That "Civilian Merchant Ship" is over ten times the size of the American Destroyer, and weighs nearly 300,000 tons.


Imagine a bike getting hit by a dump truck.

>>130299480
a civilian merchant ship has the capacity to take down most things

>>130299480
Not when they blow it's ass out of the water with a missile from over the horizon

>>130298757
First, it sailors, not soldiers
2nd, modern warships are not exactly designed to take impacts.
do you comprehend the amount of force a cargo ship has while it is in motion?

>>130298757

>survives direct hit from yuge cargo ship, travels to port under her own power
USA USA USA
>USA USA USA
USA USA USA
>USA USA
USA USA USA

>>130299480
If the merchant ship weighs four times as much as the navy ship, yes

>>130299317
Or under that crushed hull.

>>130298757
Hate to be the officers on that ship.

>>130298757
Former merchant mariner here

Whoever was captain on the Filipino boat is gonna spend 50 years in prison

>>130299480
A civilian merchant ship can take out entire bridges.

Hell, a LNG tanker could take out a city.

>>130298757
well, proves that they are invisible to radar.

because thats how those cargo ships see/drive

american navy btfo
cargo ships are more effective in the ancient battle technique of ramming
7 dead sailors and they forfeited the battle
how will they ever recover?

Imagine the media if we would have shot at the merchant ship

>>130298757
>hardly damaged
looks pretty fucked to me as well

>>130300382
Why would he? The smaller vessel should have obviously stayed out of the way, it was endangering global trade.

North Korea Hack or paid off the captain. 1st shot of WW3!

>>130300382
Yep

Just glad the one time we had a issue it was in port and the pilot got fucked, not us.

>>130300204

The only sailing OP has ever done was his water wings in the pool.

>>130300396
What kind of back woods "city" do you come from?

>>130298757
How does this even happen in the middle of the huge fucking ocean?!

>>130300382
Yes, because is the humongous immovable ship's fault, not the retarded navy with overpowered engine and radar that should move the fuck out a kilometre away

>>130299937
Irrelevant. Both ships experience the same force during the impact. If the bicycle was made of steel and the dump truck of popsicle sticks then the truck would break despite weighting more.

>>130300382
>small, super agile, state of the art warship with cutting edge sensors, radars and communications systems

>giant, loud as fuck, slow cargo ship that's cumbersome to move

Blames the cargo-ship. KEK fucking classic yank. When a war does kick off, you guys are going to get found out really quick; if you cant detect a 220,000 tonne boat on the surface how will you detect an enemy submarine...

>>130300382
Whoever is Captain of the Navy vessel is probably going to spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair, thank god.

Wish all the American pig gay sailors had died but you can't always be lucky

>>130300382
>Whoever was captain on the Filipino boat is gonna spend 50 years in prison
Why? The Fitzgerald was hit in the starboard side, which means the ACX Crystal had the right of way. This is on the Navy.

>force=mass x acceleration
>mass of container ship is yugeeeeee

A Russian ship sunk a few weeks ago under similar circumstances in the black sea

>>130300805

the fuck are you even talking about?

holy fuck that analogy is gonna make me shut down the internet for the rest of this weekend

don't make trouble in my sea pl0x

>>130300382
Nope, flip ship is gonna be fine. USN is gonna have that destroyer captain's balls for dinner though.

>>130300805

please get hit by 3 tons of popsicle sticks and tell me about it

>>130300556
Most folks do not understand it, but it up to both ships to avoid the collision.

So for example, lets say I am a large cargo ship and I see a small trawler that might get close. The officer on watch needs to go on the radio, IDyourself, give your speed and heading, and inform the trawler and so on. If you have a collision outside of the controlled waters of a harbor, both ships are at fault.

>>130300382
People here don't know you're not allowed to get close to military vessels

>>130299937
That's not the point.

The ship that got hit is an Aegis ship.

Aegis ship has an insane amount of radars, sonars, sensors, cameras, etc. and is able to move around quickly in water.

It should have detected the container ship from tens of miles away and either warned the container ship to change course or moved out of the way if the ship was getting too close.

>>130300992
mexican physics

Those ships are not made to hit another ships. The cargo ship would have been btfo by a torpedo and sunk in one minute.

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>>130298757

>>130299937
>>130300040
>>130300204
Why don't we just put the missiles on a cargo ship? Lmao

>>130300371
The commanding officers were immediately removed and left in a helicopter. They'll be reprimanded after routine diversity training and sensitivity screening to make sure they aren't bigoted

America is so sad and pathetic.

Deadweight tonnage will always win in a fender bender at sea. At least it wasn't a navy aluminum can (LCS)

T. merchant mariner

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>>130298757
>hull breach
>hardly damaged

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>>130298757
Ice-breakers confirmed masters of the sea, marines btfo.

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>>130300805
what the fuck...

>>130298757

Shipping container with tons of shipping containers = huge truck with heavy load

Vessel = corvette

Truck with load slams into corvette. Who do you think will take more damage you fucking retard?

>>130300805
mexican intellectuals are real. thought it was just a meme

>>130301034
Fucking kek

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>>130299480

its like a real life example of why that stupid shitty scene in starwars where that faggot rebel shit pushes a stardestroyer into another stardestroyer is retarded as all fuck

>All those retard and shills who claim the US destroyer captain is at fault for this

Just looking at the picture I can tell instantly that its the cargo who is at fault, just because the destroyed got it on its side while the cargo took it head on. destroyer surely tried to give way but the idiotic philipino captain with his overloaded cargo didn't see shit and/or only saw him when they were already on collision course, because those boat don't turn on a penny and might even need a km or more of headstart as to properly swerve.

>>130299480

>so a civilian merchant ship has the capacity to take down a military warship?

More like when two mass of metal both weighting many hundred tons collide with one another and have no mean to diffuse the kinetic energy from the impact, you get scrap metal. No boat can take the bow of another boat head on without any damages, especially in modern times where boats are powered by mechanical engines that have constant output.

>>130300805
You're literally playing into the 'mexican intellectuals' meme right now...

I hope you're trolling.

Fact: Philippine's container ships are the strongest in the world

>>130300766
A LNG tanker fully loaded has as much as 30 million gallons of LNG. the explosion/fire could burn people a mile away.

LNG tankers and Cargo holds full of nitrates are the two things that can wreck a city.

>>130298757
Front of ship vs. side of ship.

>>130300907
ohhhh what i would give to cut out your tongue.

>>130301059
If you drive some little motorboat in front of a large ship with little chances to avoid any collisions it's only your fault if damages happen.

>>130300766
LNG is liquified natural gas, you backwoods nigger

>>130300928
There is no "right of way" in the open sea. This isn't sailboats. Both ships are going to be at fault.

>>130298757
WTF, something else must be going on here beyond what we're being fed. Can we get our top autists on this case right away?

>>130301017
No in any accident on the water based on international rules you either A) Didn't follow the rules B) Didn't practice good seaman ship or C) Both. Either way you're fucked.

>>130298829
nice vague word that doesn't convey that the people were part of a military

>>130300805
>mexican intellectuals
Ancient ship warfare, they would try and ram the enemy ship on the side, becuase that the weakest side.

>>130301422
But it wouldn't destroy an entire city. It might damage the the city it a couple mile radius, but that's why I asked what kind of tiny ass city you came from.

>>130298757
Look at the picture mongoloid, the merchant ship is taller. The bow crushed down onto the deck of the carrier. Who designs a ship with the intention of a huge mass crashing into the deck?
I still don't get how they ran into each other but I don't think shoddy engineering caused anything to crumple.

>>130300805
Learn to physics you dumb spic

>>130299037
>>130299480
i, for one, welcome our new filipino overlords

>>130301559

its a huge fucking freighter against a military spec corvette, guess which one is more nimble and should be doing the avoiding

if a speedboat ends up under the hull of a cruiser whose fault is it?

>>130301110
Then we could say the captain made a tactical mistake there : )

>>130301521
You might be shocked on the rules of the sea. Unless the cargo ship does all it can to avoid the collision they are going to be fucked too.

Don't get me wrong, the CO will get cashiered. The master of the cargo ship is also going to get fucked since he will not able able to prove he did everything he could to avoid the collision.

>>130300541
>Bulwarks bent in
>Denting along the hull
>Not even hold

Insider fact: the whole bow of the ship is a separated, watertight compartment. Like a crumple zone in a car, it's designed to be destroyed and still allow the ship to get home. That ship can still get to port, discharge cargo, and then head to shipyard for a quick multi-million dollar tuneup

>>130299480
Wait, modern destroyers aren't build to ram other ships?
Fucking noobs

>>130301629
I sometime play World of Warships, you know how a train cannot immediatley stop like a car? Well it is the same thing with ships except its ten times worse, so by the time the captains of both ships realised they would crash, it was probably way too late.

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>>130298757

Ok, I don't know the first thing about navigating a ship or anything like that but can someone explain to me how such a collision can actually happen?

I mean, I assume ships today mostly use 'technical devices' to navigate, but shouldn't there be at least some guy that actually looks out the window every once in a while to see if there are any ships nearby?

I assume that large ships are not very manoeuvrable, but at some point somebody should realize that there is a huge container ship on a collision course and maybe we should start to communicate, and see what's what.

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>>130298757
CLEARLY, this is the work of RUSSIAN HACKERS! No way American crew could do this on their own. FUCKING RUSSIAN HACKERS hacked the ship and collided with that other ship!

>>130301859
stop typing you incredible fucktard

>>130301059
But considering the sensors on the navy ship. What the fuck were they up to? Did some young officer refuse to move his big dick out of the way of a civilian ship until it was too late to do it effectively? Or was he asleep after a night of rum and buttfucking just like the guy on duty on the container ship?

>>130301305
>pushing a disabled ship through vacuum
>ramming a ship with a fifty foot draft

Totally comparable.

>>130301859
yes but the destroyer is 10x as maneuverable as the tanker, obviously the military captain was trying to force tanker captain to move or some macho BS.

>>130300805
mexican intellectual strikes again

>>130301787

what happened

>warning, we cannot turn
>THIS IS A US NAVY MARINES URAH SHIP YOU WILL GET OUT THE WAY
>we literally cannot change course
>LAST WARNING BEFORE WE FIRE WE ARE THE US NAVY FUCK

ect

>>130302033
Fuck off nigger faggot

>>130301754
Both boats. You're a fuckin idiot. How did your ancestors even have a navy when they spawned retards such as yourself?

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>>130301559
>There is no "right of way" in the open sea.
Yeah there is. It's called the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea.
Section 15. Crossing situations:
>When two power-driven vessels are crossing, the vessel which has the other on the starboard side must give way and avoid crossing ahead of her.

This is sailing 101 tbqh

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>>130301658
For example, here is the 4th largest port.

everyoen within one mile burns, everything within 2 miles is fucked.

That most of that port.

>>130301937
Nightime,poor visibilty, not using proper lights and sound signals, human error. The radar operator could have it set to 50 miles but it's really at 4. So they wouldn't see a ship closing in on a steady bearing as a threat.

How did this even happen? I mean like move outta the way nigga damn

This was set up. The Fitzgerald was scheduled to be de-commisioned soon. The US navy allowed china to test a sonic weapon they have been developing for use against large ships.

>>130298757
Looks like the container ship ran into it.

>>130299037
Just a shame you have no clue how to pilot a ship.

>>130302212
I really wish normies would stop pretending they know about our industry and stay the fuck on land.

>>130301937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti-zq4azB_8

In that case there was a problem in the rudder.

>>130302252
Asians are bad drivers no matter what they are driving. They were probably Tokyo drifting the ship.

>>130301305
Star wars doesn't really follow psychics too closely but if you rammed into another space vessel and started up engines you're going to change it's trajectory pretty quick. With the engines on that hammerhead you would be adding multiple meters per second, per second. And quite possibly force it into atmosphere or into the other vessel.

>>130302252
This. Ships can't stop or turn on a dime, sure. The ocean is fucking massive and ships are big though. Plus there should be at least a few people on board looking to see where it's fucking going.

>>130302433
So you're wrong but not willing to admit it? Funny, that's exactly how this accident happened.

Was the captain of the container ship yelling "allahu akbar!"

>>130302499
D.W.O
Driving while Oriental>>130302499

>>130299456
______/ /___/ /___/ /___/ /__________
\ = : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : /
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

SHIP OF PEACE

Looks like the Captain got the job due to kike privilege.

The front of the container ship hit the side of the military vessel, of course the container ship will suffer less damage.

>>130301754
>its a huge fucking freighter against a military spec corvette, guess which one is more nimble and should be doing the avoiding
>if a speedboat ends up under the hull of a cruiser whose fault is it?

Both

>>130302212

Rule 2 and Rule 17 mean both ships are at fault.

(a) Nothing in these Rules shall exonerate any vessel, or the owner, master or crew thereof, from the consequences of any neglect to comply with these Rules or of the neglect of any precaution which may be required by the ordinary practice of seamen, or by the special circumstances of the case
(b) In construing and complying with these rules due regard shall be had to all dangers of navigation and collision and to any special circumstances, including the limitations of the vessels involved, which may make a departure from these rules necessary to avoid immediate danger

the stand-on vessel shall maintain her course and speed, but she may take action to avoid collision if it becomes clear that the give-way vessel is not taking appropriate action, or when so close that collision can no longer be avoided by the actions of the give-way vessel alone. In a crossing situation, the stand-on vessel should avoid turning to port even if the give-way vessel is not taking appropriate action. These options for the stand-on vessel do not relieve the give-way vessel of her obligations under the rules

Yes, the Navy guy fucked up. But do not think that the cargo ship guy is also not fucked.

Unless the cargo ship was screaming in the radio as soon as they got within 1 km, started a starboard turn, and was thinking of launching flares then they are fucked.

>>130302212
Based on side of collision, the Aegis ship was the one that was obligated to move in this case.

>>130300805
>mexican education

>>130298757

Revenge for 1898, hijos de puta.

>>130298757
> gaping hole
> hardly damaged

CNN will find a way to blame it on Trump

>>130298757
>>Filipino container ship hardly damaged
>U.S. Aegis vessel completely rekt
>captain of Aegis vessel airlifted to hospital
>7 soldiers missing

American junk

>>130302433
>>130302601

Okay, I can tell >>130302433 is a a guy who is a merchant mariner.

If you have a collision with another ship as a merchant ship while in open water, you are in deep trouble. Hell, most of the time if a naval ship was within 5km of a ship of ours and didn't have radio contact we would change course to avoid getting within 1 km of them.

The CO of the Navy ship will get cashiered, but the master of the Cargo ship is also in deep deep shit.

>>130299480
>civilian merchant ship
It was operated by the most powerful race in the world though.

>>130302869
The Aegis was the give way ship.

But both will be viewed at fault for the collision due to Rule 2 and 17.

>>130303048
>Is Trump's "America First" policy in the military leading to dangerous deployments in an aggressive display of his aggression? Tune in tonight to see Wolf Blitzer's shocking discoveries.

Ha, see this hearties, that skallywag Captain should walk the plank for such - fuck this I can't write Pirate talk

>Warship absolutely filled with top of the line sensory equipment.
>Unable to spot a container ship bigger than a football field.
Something is fucky here.

I'm in the aerial form of transport but even with the tiny modicum of knowledge I have about shipping it is clear that the majority of 4chan are LARPing retards.

This guy is correct. >>130302433

Sometimes its just arrogance.
Like this for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VHXRYXzEVU

Just so they are a military vessel everyone has to move out of the way cause we have artillery.

>>130303467
Was it the Russians "again"?

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>>130300870
>lost a war to fucking birds
>calling anyone else weak
Kek

>>130298757

Even the Austrian Marine performs better.

How the fuck do two ships even collide..

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>>130302601
What? No, I'm agreeing with you you faggot C*nadian. I've been perusing these threads since this broke, and everyone is armchairing the analysis, when most don't know their COLREGS.

>>130298757
How this shit can even happen with all that modern technology, especialy the most advanced kind which was on US navy ship?

Did sailors turn off everything and had some gay orgy on deck?

>>130298757
>Filipino container ship hardly damaged

you must be a fucking RETARD to not see the HOLE in the hull's bow

another slidethread saged

>>130303585

It's always the Russians.
Probably hacked both of the ships to be on the safe side.

>>130303537
That's fake af.

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>>130303677
Happens all the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTXcoGPFEoY

Shit, there's been at least 4 freighter collisions on the Great Lakes alone this year.

>>130298757
Warships are designed with a lot of things in mind - long range bombardment, short range exchange of fire with other ships, missile interception, close quarters combat with smaller boats, etc etc.

Being able to ram other ships to death isn't usually a design consideration.

>>130303911
How does the U.S. ship fail to maneuver around it, dont you have giga hyper tech in these ships llmao

>>130303877
Could be McCain, he is always doing something to destroy/use military assets to boost military spending & his career

>>130301100
I can't help laughing thinking some american shouting into a mic and the Filipinos as responding confused to the English.

What going to happen.

1. The Commander of the Fitzgeneraled will get Cashiered
2. the watch offier will also get kicked out of the navy
3. The master of the Cargo ship is also going to get fucked unless they where doing all they could do to alert the navy ship.

>>130298757
Oh shit, that was a rescue mission.

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>>130303877
I know it's mostly memery but if I would hire a hacker and I had 10 european applicants with the same qualification I'd hire the russian 9 out of 10 times. They just get the best advertisement.

How do ships accidentally run into eachother on the open ocean?

>>130301100
>>130304228
The US navy ship would be the "Give way" ship that was supposed to avoid the contact. What was supposed to happen is the US navy ship was to go behind the cargo ship. But the cargo ship will still get in trouble for some other violations unless the navy ship was ignoring the radio too.

>>130304445
It just gets more crowded there every fucking day.

Why is this story so hard to learn details about? Am I going to have to go to whatdoesitmean to get some answers?
Was the cargo ship captain in control of the vessel? Was he compromised by terrorists? Were there any communications between the two ships prior to crash? How did both modern ships lack warning systems? How did neither attempt evasive actions? WAS THE CARGO SHIP CAPTAINED BY A MUSLIM? Did one or both ships get hacked and neither captain is at fault?

Something I need to consult Sorcha about I guess.

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Weird AIS path

>>130303537
Jesus Lord is that fake and the joke is old as the Navy. Just because someone put voices to the transcript doesn't make it real.
Quick rundown:
>International language for Maritime communication is English
>US Navy would not respond in Spanish
>A lighthouse would identify itself as such, not "A-835"
>A lighthouse wouldn't have the radar to detect a ship over the horizon
>A lighthouse wouldn't make contact over VHF

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>>130301163

glass houses!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl4I_PVI2cE

>>130298757
state of the art military ship...collides with a container ship

North Korea > USA

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>>130299480
>apparently this is at least true PvP against the US Navy now
Based pinoy container ship

>>130298829
mercenaries*

>>130299037
You think flips had anything to do with building and designing that ship?

Ahahahahahhaahahahhahahah

Stfu subhuman

>>130299480
>hey pinoy, how thick do you want the hull?
>really thick
>thick enough for normal civilian travel?
>no, extra thick as thick as you can make it
>why?
>extra caution in case God forbid a military ship crashes into us. We would lose all those Dole banana shipments

>>130304445
huge amounts of kinetic energy and inertia. once you're on a collision course with another ship, you're probably going to hit it no matter what you do.

>>130304680
it's one of those new stealth ships. chinese btfo.

>>130303341
Hey that faggot meme is still going! Neat!

>>130300805
>Both ships experience the same force during the impact.

lolwat

>>130301343
The USN skipper is 100% responsible in American military eyes. His naval career is now toast.

>>130298829
Pawns* you pleb

>american destroyers

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>>130301433
>American """""banter"""""

>>130304962
>for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction etc

>>130301411
Actually the ship has a panamanian registration and and is worse korean built.

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>>130298757

Russian hackers

PINOY STRONK

>>130304576
Too bad we can't see the Fitz track to see how the approach was and where they collided. I assume, could be wrong, that they collided right around the start of that track. With a hole in the hull, they'd turn to so as to have the least wind and wave action acting on the hole. Then they assess it, and turn back to port.

>>130301411
underrated

Can somebody give me a quick run down on how the hell something like this could happen?

>>130300805
>Mexican intellectuals

why didnt we just sink the container ship before it got close to us?

>>130298829
Brainless, worthless, scum of the planet cannon fodder*
Ftfy

>>130302049
Too busy uploading fresh mil data to Wikileaks.

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>>130298757
>$2 billion state of the art US warship gets surprise rammed by a cargo carrier
>7 dead
That US captain is going to get raked over the hot coals.

>>130305202
ship collisions are a lot more common than you think

>>130298757
>Filipino merchant vessels are the most powerful ships in the world.

>>130304962
That's how physics works. They experience the same amount of force.

>>130304962
object A is moving at 75 mph and weighs 1 ton

object B is moving at 75 mph and weights half a ton

the 2 objects are on a collision course. the impact will generate force. the force will be equally applied even if 1 is destroyed and the other isnt. simplified collision math is mass times velocity equals force

>>130302212
100% this.

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>>130299037
Both you and I know the only Filipino part of the ship is its crew and the flag is only there for looks.

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>>130305249
>why didnt we just sink the container ship before it got close to us?
good question.

>>130299480
Yes... Container ships are very large and have the prerequisite mass to fuck up much smaller vessels.

>>130305291
>that pic
even if fake i lost my sides

>>130305360
Ke=mv^2

>>130301817
It's called the collision bulkhead.

>>130305202
Probably something along the lines of
>HURR WE MURRICA NAVY BEST NAVY IN THE WORLD WE DON'T CHANGE COURSE FOR ANYONE, YOU GET OUT OF THE WAY PHILIPPINES

>>130305249
>>130305432
Normal, sane people prefer to take action that will result in the least amount of casualties possible.
I hope you at least understand the gist of this reasoning.

>>130301136
because they're big and slow. you seem to think modern day naval combat would take place at ramming range.

>>130298950
Kek

>>130298757
maybe the CIA/MOSSAD should not of sent ISIS to the based Philippines

>>130303629
raises a historical joke in relation to an actual expensive loss of a super advanced weapons platform. M8 get your shit together before Chang's dick pushes it up against your tonsils in the upcoming sino-american war.

>>130305202
Happens a lot.

It's only in the news because it's a US military ship vs. the most powerful ship

>>130298757

Quite a lot of US Navy sailors are going to get fucked for their fuck up.

>>130298829
>>130300204

What the hell is with Americans with this: Sailors/'muhreens aren't soldier meme.

>>130301343
>Just looking at the picture I can tell instantly that its the cargo who is at fault, just because the destroyed got it on its side while the cargo took it head on. destroyer surely tried to give way but the idiotic philipino captain with his overloaded cargo didn't see shit and/or only saw him when they were already on collision course, because those boat don't turn on a penny and might even need a km or more of headstart as to properly swerve.

Destroyer turns on a penny and has immense acceleration and deceleration when compared to massive cargo ship.

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>>130301136
>Why don't we just put the missiles on a cargo ship? Lmao
Also why are American ships so expensive if they're so shitty?

>>130302433
Americans are the laughing stock of the merchant navy world. You're worse than phillipinos.

Regards and English EOOW.

>>130305717
Pork.

>>130302246
It's a USN ship - not getting BTFO by Filipino container ships is just ASSUMED to be one of those things our sailors do. This is complete and utter incompetence and the commander has no business even having a rubber duck in his bathtub at this point.

>>130303260
Underrated

>>130300224
This, desu fampais. I'm pretty impressed that the Fitzgerald wasn't torn in half. I work on these vessels in Port and they are big, dirty, heavy sumbitches.

>>130305569
I know. Swear I put the term in there.

>>130301136
Club-K Container Missile System

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlIB6qDjoo8

>>130298757
>Filipino container ship hardly damaged

In collisions at sea always strike on the bow.
The container ship captain and helmsman are masters, which is more than can be said of the naval vessel that was struck amidship.

>>130298757
It is fucking shameful display.
Can you Americans protect us for sure?

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>ameriplop navy

>>130306019
>display
>dispray
fixed that for you nip

>>130306073
>XDXDXDXDXDXDXD

>>130300766
Google Texas City and Halifax explosion. Much smaller ships loaded with explosives have done a fuck of a lot of damage in the past.

>>130300805
>Mexican intellectuals

>>130300805
Don't take the bait.

>>130306191
>Texas City
texas city was a refinery?

>>130301559
You clearly have no fucking clue what you are talking about, just shut the fuck up.

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>>130302943
lel papi

>>130302943
Worry about the Muslims being invited to take over the sacred Santa Maria plaza in Granada for their pagan prayers. Or, you're just another spic commie who wants to Make España a Shi'ite Emirate Again.

>>130305761
I'm always wary of naval vessels. Not because they have guns and missiles, because they are crewed and helmed by some of the most overconfident and worst navigators I know. The saying is "If It's Gray, Stay Away". Best course of action when those mental midgets don't know what they're doing.

True story, I'm friends with a navy lieutenant. We were on vacation in Florida with some friends and wanted to go jet skiing. He couldn't pass the twenty question safety/navigation test to get the rental. Drunk Chads pass that shit all the time. Pathetic.

>t. (((Merchant))) Sailor

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>>130304228

>>130302049
Probably figured that they'd make it with plenty of room to spare, misjudged it and got clocked.

>>130299817
this is a legit concern apparently

>hijack ship
>ram into cruiseship

>>130303318
But what is the Rule 34 scenario?

>>130298757
MURICAN """""""SUPPERIORITY"""""" EXPOSED

>>130306631
no survivors

>>130306726
>SUPPERIORITY
we do have the best suppers

>>130303477
Air navigation traditions are based largely on maritime ones, so they should seem like common sense to you.

>>130300224
kek

>>130300382
^^^this

>>130300556
most don't realize the military ship "accidentally" got rammed and all those "injured" and "missing" totally weren't problem sailors, who definitely weren't conspiring plans of mutiny...no way.

>>130303804
Respectfully disagree - perception and reality of US naval competence VERY relevant in PLAN and allied military calculus. This is also illustrative of potential readiness issues that need addressing by our govt.

Rule filipino
Filipino rules the waves

>>130298757
Yall better stop complaining about the durability of US ships before we double our military spending.

>>130300805
They didn't hit head on you dumb fuck. How could they experience the same force at impact? Mexican flag. Save your logic for improving landscaping techniques.

>>130305567
there is a video on youtube of the recording of that transmission, but it is with a mexican lighthouse. it is funnier, but im not sure if it is real or not

>>130298829
Sailors are soldiers, are you dense?

>>130303722
Most of the dudes in this thread really don't know fuck all about anything and I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they only recently discovered water is wet.

>>130298757
How the fuck do you crash boats on the open ocean?
You can literally see for miles in every direction

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>>130305681
>What the hell is with Americans with this: Sailors/'muhreens aren't soldier meme.
Special little snowflakes want to compete to who rides globalist dick the best

>>130302984
It's mostly superficial.

>>130307698
no, they are seamen

>>130307698

>Sailors are soldiers

Sailors in the navy are personnel of the armed forces, but you can also be civilian sailor.

>>130304576
Collision most likely at first turn on chart. USN vessel bearing NW. Inflection curve following is post-collision checks and necessary loitering. Remainder is re-routing to avoid all US naval movement in and around incident location.

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What do you expect? Americans are still basically far behind the times when it comes to technology.
Examples:

>American """people"""
>Still using 120v mains "power"
>Unironically jewed by (((Edison))) over 300 years after his death
>Forced to boil water in a heating tube like a savage
>Unironically don't even know what pic related is

bad

>>130306449
Sounds about right. I've not had to deal with them yet though and probably never will since I'm an engineering officer.

>>130300989
Sauce?

>>130299937
The correct answer

>>130306191
Halifax explosion, too soon man. Too soon.

>>130307956
>Unironically don't even know what pic related is
I have one sitting on my desk right now.

>>130307956
What is that and what is wrong with 120v?

>>130307956
Um...what is that? Magic? Its made of magic?

>>130298757

I've actually worked as a contractor and designed crap for the military I can confirm is at least 100x overpriced crap.

>>130308127
can;t you just google it nigger?
a livestock ship full of romanian sheep fuck up a russian war ship

>>130299937
More like imagine a dump truck hitting an Apache

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>>130300382
no
i am also a merchant mariner.
a deck officer for maersk.
problem here is the US navy never fucking follow COLREGs, ad saily around like they are on a pleasure cruiser in a lake. That's why they are constantly crashing into shit.
They think the rules don't apply to them and expect other ships to get out of their way, but that's not how it works.
You need to train your deck crew better on seamanship.
No other Navy have this problem.
It's just down to poor training and bad attitude.
I met some US sailors in bahrain a couple of years ago and they didn't even know what COLREGs were, and those guys were seamen specialists or whatever you call your deck people in the US navy.

I can just imagine the American captain insisting that the flips turn, with the flip captain telling him it has a 10 mile turning circle, and the Americans just autistically screeching 'REEEEEEE YOO ESS AY, YOO ESS AY!' as the tanker slowly came towards them.

How many miles out were the ships at impact?

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>>130308257

>sitting on my desk

As a paperweight? :(

>>130308273
>>130308295

It's nothing, goy, don't worry about it. And a long time ago America was running on more than 120v thanks to our guy Tesla, but Edison and Big Stove (more recently Big Microwave) lobbied hard and managed to get this whitewashed from history. As a result Americans are forced to wait several hours to boil water but more commonly just choose to drink it mildly warm at best hence the unusual popularity of iced beverages such as iced tea and frozen coffee.

>>130308171
> 12/6 NEVAR FORGET/NE TE SOUVIENS PAS

>>130306242
I'm talking about the 1947 explosion that was one of the largest non-nuclear detonations in history. It started on a ship at port and blew up most of the city.

>>130307956
It's an electric tea kettle. You can get one on amazon. Americans don't drink much tea, so we have no need for such a device.

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>>130300805
>Mexican intellectuals

>>130308724
This this this. So much this.

>>130300989
how did you pass high school?
momentum is what is relevant here

>>130298757
>Starboard bow hit
American's fault. International regs on avoiding collisions say that the starboard most vessel has the right of way.

>>130305717
Everyone from your shithole deserves to die. I hate you faggots. msniggers.

>>130308875
>As a paperweight?
Pretty much, whenever I'm not making tea.

>>130301136

>Why don't we just put the missiles on a cargo ship? Lmao

It would actually be a good move for the first few.

It would be totally unexpected.

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>>130302212
To be fair, avoiding huge ships is such a complicated science that they literally wrote books about it.

>>130308875
Also don't talk shit about cast iron stoves. If your lucky enough to have one you should hold onto it forever. They are 10/10 comfy especially if you live in a cold and windy area (aka 90% of the west US)

>>130308724
>he's not aware of turkroach navy sinking inside ports by crashing on to tugboats

Google is your friend

>>130300805
Listen to the mexican intellectual he knows his stuff

>>130306449
Fuck off, larping boot camp drop out.

>>130304962
>american education

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>>130309301

I've heard people say this so often when I bring it up...strange! It's nothing specific about tea. You can heat the water for when you're boiling food / anything else that requires boiled water as it takes a much longer time to boil water from cold using a stove.
I have one on my desk also

>>130309401
I don't have one :((

>>130304905
>Dole banana shipment
Am exporter. Kek

>>130298757
I wonder how that shit even happened.
The 7 missing gaylors obviously was outside on the ship, doing their shit. Didn't nobody notice the huge fucking container ship going right towards them?

I think the rule on the ocean is that the smaller and therefore much more maneuverable ship has to get out of the way of a bigger ship.

This means it was the Americans' fault and they're to blame for having their own ship wrecked.

>>130302071
They sounds shipwide alerts when pulling those maneuvers, clearly there was no shipwide alert, therefore no maneuver was being attempted, Fitz got coldcocked

>>130309897
Okay. Never went to boot camp. Went to a four year Maritime Academy. Studied all forms of navigation, shiphandling, structure, mechanics and operations. Took courses devoted solely to analysing casualties at sea like this one. I've been working in the industry for nearly a decade now.

>>130300224
>yuge
Jokes aside its a low end Panamax. Thats actually some little pussy size container ship among modern container ships. Those big Maersk, COSCO and CSCL container ships would have just split the burger destroyer into two.

>>130303537
You're not actually this stupid, are you?

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>B-but it was bigger!!!

>>130310547

I've still yet to meet someone who's been in the navy in the last 15 years who understands how to orient based on stars.

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>>130298757
How does this even happen?
>Flip captain probably passed out drunk in his cabin, nobody around to steer or pay attention to the waters
>Military vessel captain "Don't slow down for that hunk of metal shit, it'd be a sign of weakness if the US navy slowed or changed course for a foreign vessel."
Then they got rekt.

>>130310939
did he suck your dick?

>>130310397
It was at 0230 hours. The poor bastards were asleep in their bunks, likely below the waterline where the freighter's bulbous bow broke through the hull.

>>130310397

They don't have to notice shit. I assume they have ARPA and AIS so even if you are asleep on watch the fucking CPA alarm would have been going crazy.

Someone fucked up very hard to make this happen.

>>130311002
Fog

Bad weather

Malfunctioning radar

Bad communication

>>130304576
Why the initial u-turn? Did it realize it wasn't heading for the right island or somethign?

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>>130311035

No

>>130311195
>the freighter's bulbous bow broke through the hull

homoerotic!

>>130298950
lol

>>130310833
Always wondered how those destroyers weren't top-heavy seeing all the shit they put above the waterline.

>>130311614
they keep the amerifats near the bottom

I'm surprised shit floats at all

>>130308724
that's a big boat

>>130298757
>>7 soldiers missing
US Naval vessel damaged. OP refers to "soldiers"

>>130311614
Steel hulls, aluminum/composite superstructure. All the heavy mechanical equipment down below. Fixing aluminum structures to steel hulls was figured out in WWII I believe

>>130299456
Well you'd probably like "seamen" I bet.

>>130300805
not passing physics I, tbhfam

>>130311614
The Bridge and smoke stacks are essentially hollow while the engines, CIC, generators VLS tubes/weapons and other heavy stuff is near or below the waterline. They're not as top heavy as they look.

>>130298757
I bet my aliexpress orders were on there.

>ram ship into navy vessel
>board and plunder

nother job well done mateys

>>130312191
dragon dildos sank the amerifats?

kek

dont giant freighters pull in smaller ships

>>130312265
autism spinners vs us navy

>>130312376
4chan wins again...

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>>130312376

>>130311614
>Always wondered how those destroyers weren't top-heavy seeing all the shit they put above the waterline.

People have learned from sweden's mistakes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship)

>>130300805
Todo pendejo mijo, de seguro no tienes ni la secundaria terminada

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Why does the US spend so much on their military but builds their vessels out of Tin Foil?

>>130299037
its called leverage and that container had much more then the destroyer containers in desperate time would be good ramming vessels.

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>>130303048

>>130312954
Because said tinfoil is light yet strong

>>130299744
A battleship would be sinking far away from a modern destroyer long before the destroyer is in its range, missiles and shit.

>>130298757
>A dagger like point
>getting damaged
>an object getting t-boned impact
>not getting damaged
Wow it's fucking nothing, the fucking Spics were drunk as shit.

>>130305681
It's a basic way of denoting which of the four branches a service member belongs to.

Sailor - Navy
Soldier - Army
Marine - Marine Corps
Airman - Air Force

I'm honestly very surprised and disappointed by the complete lack of any basic military rank and recognition by my fellow Americans on this board. Especially since the information is so easy to get.

>>130313000
>He only appoints the best.... and then asks for their resignation

>>130312954
they make their houses out of cardboard, so...

>>130307956
I have one, but then I'm English

>>130308806
I believe they were touching at impact. So, zero.

>>130310005
>it takes a much longer time to boil water from cold using a stove.
>not using an induction stove

Are you guys living in the stone age?
The most powerful heater on my stove can be cranked up to 3.5kW.
It's enough to boil the biggest pot I have in less than 4 minutes.

Enough water for a tea boils in 15 seconds.

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>>130313558

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>>130310833
>MUH 6 MILLION TONS!

>>130313136
>battleships never had missiles added
>you can't add missiles to a heavily armored ship
The Navy's theory on armor from the cold war forward has been shit.

>>130306073
that it we have to blow a path way through canada

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>>130305080
>action
>car hits child
>reaction
>child's head explodes

Force is not felt on both sides, force as in all things takes the path of least resistance. All matter, all energy takes the path of least resistance in all areas of life.

The one ship had more resistance upon collusion because there was more reinforced mass behind it, the other ship took more force because it had less mass behind the impact portion.

Assuming both are made out of comparable reinforced metals.

This is why a motorcycle BTFOs a truck when it t-bones it.

You must also take into account velocity.

There is a reason bullets almost disintegrate when they hit their target, exploding into sometimes hundreds of pieces and grinding away at the edges.

However if you were to shoot a projectile that was around the same depth of the target, the projectile would obviously destroy it near completely.

>>130313005
and cheap

>>130299037
POWERFUL