2017 = HOTTEST YEAR ON RECORD (AGAIN)

>>130296109
דו זאלסט נישט https://archive.is/BM3Nl

>>130296141
Thank You Based Archivebro

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>>130296109
>literal jew trying to shame 15% for the state of the global environment
Go oy vey somewhere else you fucking kike

>>130296109
You can't really make that determination only 2 weeks into summer.

>>130296109
saged, kike
its true though, here it is 23ªc and is suposed to be 12 in this time of the year

>>130296109
It makes sense that it's getting hotter. Every year we are getting closer to the sun. Google gravity

That's for 2016 and there was an el nino

>>130296536
NO WAY!!! ITS ALWAYS THE HOTTEST SUMMER ON RECORD!!!
Don't you know, even though the temperature hasn't risen for over a decade its still HOTTER!!!

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>>130296421
funny thing is, fake flags don;' save you. I can see through them like a fine sheet of silk.

Go fuck your sister, brainless amerishartlet

>>130296109
JIDF, please

>>130296109
We all know Israel wanted Donald Trump. Stop this charade.

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Looks like there's a negative sea surface temperature anomaly around the coastal US...why did Trump leave the Paris Accord?

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didn't feel any hotter since the last 20 years of my life faggot

>Jew lies about things getting hot again
First the ovens, now this

>>130296109

i have noticed we have consistently hotter drier, summers with colder milder, winters.

>>130296109
DAMN! If only we would have given a few more billion to china and india.... this whole problem would be fixed. ..

Op is retarded.

>>130296109
New York and California is still not underwater as promised, so shut the fuck up and piss off, I have some old tires to burn. The cucks won't flood themselves on their own apparently.

>>130296263
>jeud
JEW DETECTED
KILL IT WITH TNT

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>>130296109

Earth is hollow with polar openings that lead into its hollow interior. Outer Earth governments know about this, but are not telling the masses.
Daily reminder that there was supposed to be a voyage to the North Pole in 2007 to find out if there's an opening at the North Pole that leads into the Inner Earth World (and thus prove once and for all that Earth is hollow). The leader of the expedition was Steve Currey and he suddenly died from a brain tumour shortly before the expedition began so all of the money they got from people who were going to join the expedition was refunded. The new leader of the expedition was Brooks Agnew and the new expedition was meant to be in 2013, but shortly after THAT expedition was about to begin, his film crew suddenly vanished without a trace so THAT expedition was cancelled too (and, once again, the money they got from people who wanted to join their expedition was refunded). The expedition was/is known as the 'North Pole Inner Earth Expedition'. Here's a link to the official North Pole Inner Earth Expedition page:

http://www.x2-radio.com/phoenixsciencefoundation/npiee/index.html

Flat Earth theory = Reddit

Hollow Earth theory = /pol/

Also, Terry Smith was an Alaskan bush pilot associated with this expedition who agreed to fly directly over the North Pole to see if there was an opening there but he suddenly died in a plane crash on August 9 2010 before he could make that flight. NONE of these incidents are (((coincidences))). There is a world inside our world.

>>130296109
IN Texas we havent even hit 100 degrees yet. Normally its in the hundreds by mid May.

Global warming is a lie.

>>130296109
No conversation about the climate applies to the real world without acknowledgment of the ongoing climate engineering programs.

Meme this into mainstream awareness or you are worthless faggots.

global warming is as believable as the globe itself, kys OP you kike the earth is flat just as your ancestors tried telling your autistic ass

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>it's hot during summer
>it's always been hot during summer
>but this time it's different
>this time
>it's trump's fault

You feral retards and your make believe.

>>130300279
I am amazed that your brain manages to keep you breathing. Truly an achievement of epic proportions.

>>130297607
Kek

>>130296592

Veranito de San Juan.

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>that feel when you know you support policies that will fuck up the environment but will be dead and never have to face the consequences

>>130303030

LOOK AT THOSE FUCKING DIGITS

MY GOD
KEK ALL UP IN THA TBITCH

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>>130296141
Are you a bot? How are you able reply to each thread so quickly?

>>130296109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXxHfb66ZgM

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>>130296109
I am now starting to think that the World is flat and dinosaurs don't really exist because (((OP))) implied the opposite.

I hate kikes so fucking much.

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>>130296109

>HOTTEST EVER
>BETTER LISTEN TO AL GORE AND TAX EVERYTHING TO DEATH

What about how life was thriving millions of years ago when temps were way - way - hotter?

>DENIER!
>BURN AT THE STAKE FOR ASKING FORBIDDEN QUESTIONS!
>SHAME

Uhm... yea... thats how science works...

40
FUCKING
CELSIUS
DEGREES

HELP
ME
I'M
MELTING
HERE

>>130296109
Fuck off, you earth worshiping faggot
http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/14/scientists-blame-climate-change-for-thick-sea-ice-that-halted-arctic-expedition/

>>130296109
>only take records for 170 years.

>warming trend

OMG WORLD IS ENDING THE 5BILLION YEARS THAT WE DONT HAVE DATA PROVES GLOBAL WORMING.

>>130303469
vegas here, deal with it, esteban

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>>130297019
into the oven

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>>130296109

Not hot at all.

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2017 can only become the hottest year in the instrumental record if we swing for another full-blown El Nino again, which would be very surprising since the 2015-2016 El Nino was already almost as big as the 1997-1998 one.

its 89 here with overcast and i think its pretty comfy.

>>130296109
I can't believe this.
It's been really cold spring and last summer was pretty cold too.

>>130303441
You're a retard

31 here in Norwich, norfolk

And thats UK 31oc, so hotter than your sand heat with zero humidity and air con

>>130296109
How dare you link a Guardian article as evidence to your claim. Go gas yourself, you fucking asshole.

climate change is more dangerous than most problems (like ozone depletion for example) because the climate is a system that is characterized by a delayed response.

Which means by the time normal people (who doesn't look into the topic too deeply) will personally notice changes in their own lifes and demand action on a large scale, it will already be too late to avoid nonlinear processes of destruction

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>>130296109

Climate has always had Cycles.

The only "Man Made Climate Change" is Geo-Engineering/Warfare.

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>>130296109
>2017 hottest year
>Article written in March
That map doesn't look like this one.

>>130297631
>colder
>milder
Pick one.

>>130296109

>36 celsius 40 with the humidity

Why do people even like summer? It's fucking hot, sticky, and disgusting. Sure you get out for the occasional swim, and the summer nights are nice, but other than that fuck summer, it's for subhumans.

>>130303842
>vegas here

Does vegas even get humid? 40c is nothing if there's hardly any humidity. Try living in southern ontario where you have like 70-80% humidity and it's 40c, and in the winter it's -30. I don't mind heat as long as i don't feel like i'm all sticky from the humidity.

>>130296705
So one day mars will be like a new earth?

>>130298322
>stories of literal morons and people who can think straight due to brain tumors dying and attributing to conspiracy
Huh... makes you think

>>130303912
Israel is like a natural rotisserie oven. 80 degrees and high 50% Humidity.

>>130307399
Hot weather beats cold any day. I love global warming. Theres only like 5% humidity here in the desert so its great.

>>130307714
A Fucking leaf complaining about the heat. HAHAHAHAHA.
Over Half the Contiguous US is humid subtropical or humid continental.
I live in Michigan and work outside, we have the same climate, its not that bad.

Ye and it has nothing to do with geo-engeneering goy. But sent us more money !

>>130308975
>Hot weather beats cold any day.

You're not white.

But I get what you mean, though, i've been to California where there was low humidity and the heat was much more tolerable. I have also been to Georgia where my cousins are in the summer, and i truly don't know how people survive there.

>>130309222
>A Fucking leaf complaining about the heat.

Yeah it's pretty cold here all year then summer rolls around and it's hot and humid as fuck. I just don't like the heat

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Climate change is real and it's happening.

>>130309409
I don't like it either but still. If it could stay about 20C all year that'd be great.

>>130297019
I wonder how much CO2 your tribe being burnt alive will emit.

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>>130296109
>israel
>mfw

>>130305715
NOT an argument

>>130296109
>28c today
>heatwave through next week
>brilliant drinking weather
Absolutely glorious

>>130296109
>implying it is human fault

>>130309603
No shit, it's been happening for 4 billion years.

>>130296109
You convinced me. The US entering the paris accord would have made 2017 the coolest year on record.

>>130307774
No because Mars cannot sustain an atmosphere. If current data is right it was already like the earth. But got stripped by solar winds.

>hottest year for rest of the planet
>coldest june and may for russia
fuck you cunts do something with pollution we are freezing here

>>130303469
Living next to africa

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>>130296705

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I'm having a hard time not walking around killing Christians.

If A then B, either A or not B, get it?

>>130296705
>on /pol/ this might not be bait

>>130296109
>mfw climate change drowns Israel in heat waves and starts wars for water between Jews and Arabs

very nice

>>130296109
>warming and cooling cycles last for many years
>warmer than last year
>warmest year on record
>records being PRECISELY kept with modern tools hasn't even occurred for two decades
>alarmists think this means something
Why are alarmists so fucking stupid?
Why do skeptics have to point out the obvious for them all the time?

it's +36 in siberia too btw

>>130303469
One of the many things I hate about this place... Its horrendous summer.

>>130296109
Which means eight years of liberal climate change policy did nothing?

>>130303244
He probably sets up an rss like feed that scans threads and notifies him every time there is a link posted. 4chan API is public.

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>>130296109

>liberal retards not realizing that we're coming out of an ice age and have been doing so for thousands of years

>>130309674
Science has proven that if all kikes are burned that it will actually have a reverse effect. Total human CO2 emissions will return to ZERO and burning fossil fuels will emit bees to pollinate plant life across the globe.
All in favor of burning the Jooooooo, say S.

>>130310542
Why does everyone forget about the Solar Winds? All this talk about colonizing Mars. No one ever talks about the dead core of Mars and the Solar Winds.

>>130301212
wow what a snappy remark kike i bet the rabbi would be proud

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>>130296109

talking out of your fucking arse u fucking faggot

you idiots need to learn how to read a psychrometric chart.

>>130296109
A literal kike got 90 replies....kek.

>>130296109
>tfw you didnt even bother to change your flag

>>130310823

underrated

>>130313255
Ptth solar winds. The sun works for us never forget it.

>>130303441

>hey guys look at this chart i post in every thread

I asked you atleast thrice :

Whats the point showing a fucking graph over a timeline of 60 million years .
1,6 cms are 10 million years

Thats means 1 mm is 0,625 million years
That makes 625 00 years in one mm
One mm is on my display 7 pixels if i'm counting right

That means 1 pixel is 89285,7 years

Now look at all the charts that are always posted:
Climate changes always happen in a long period of time.

We one the other hand have a fucking temperature rise and a future rising temperatures that would normally happen in thousands of years or if a super volcano or meteorit hit the earth.

>>130313513

Shut the fuck up racist.

Your flag is fucking ugly.

>>130310823
looks like Ancap ball

>>130313121
>lolbertarians not realizing we should be entering another cold phase of natural climate change but instead are experiencing an abnormal rate of warming
>This is happening at a time of expansional human population growth and greenhouse gas emission, but of course no correlation

the climate agreement is bullshit. india and china are allowed to up their pollution while america is supposed to stifle our econmy. its a scam. come up with a real solution or fuck off.

>>130303842
>it's a dry heat

>>130314024
Bigot. Those are developing countries. We need to let them win else its a hate crime.

>>130296109
>Thanks again Drumpanzees for electing a literal retard who thinks the world is flat and that dinosaurs were fake.

But the world is flat and dinosaurs were fake, Shekelberg.

>>130296109
>flag
lel

>>130314407

If you win, you lose.

>>130314021

>"should be"
>implying

what we should do is install a giant air conditioner in some place where no one lives like south america. and well run it all day long and get power from magma cause thats under ground.

>>130309674
I wonder how much of that CO2 will be greedily sucked up by his neighboring tribe.

>>130307714
Also vegas here, can confirm we get no humidity. However it does get so hot that tards who forget to drink water pass out quite often.

>>130296109
And this is Trumps fault how retard?

Because he didn't want to buy into the ridiculous
Paris Accord, in which the only people paying
were the United States, and it would reduced
total emissions by 0.0000000001 % over the next 100 years?

Gas yourself faggot.

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>>130296109

simple solution

>>130296109
>believe our manipulated data
>forget real science

fuck off and die, kike

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>>130296109
>hottest on record
>records only go back mere hundreds of years
Brainlets
when
will
they
learn
?

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>>130313325

There is absolutely no natural mechanism that can explain the rate of warming today.

Also, that figure is misleading, CO2 ppm is now around ~410-420. pic related

>>130296109
They claim this every fucking year except that it's fucking fake and gay every fucking time.

>>130303492
That's the beauty of the climate change scam. If global temperatures pause for a decade it's proof that climate change is real. If global temperatures rise it's proof of climate change. If global temperatures go down it's proof of climate change. If sea ice levels decline it's proof of climate change. If sea ice levels rise it's proof of climate change. If polar bear numbers increase (they have) then it's proof of climate change. You simply cannot disprove it and the only solution is to pay more taxes to give to 3rd world shit holes and subsidize leftist projects.

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>Chinese conspiracy am i rite????111???

>>130296109
>the world is flat and that dinosaurs were fake
That's Pence. Drumpf doesn't even know what planet he is on.

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>>130315602
We should, even climate deniers don't deny it.

They also seem to forget what kind of an impact breaking the cycle would have for us.

>>130318641
Yeah by a fraction of a degree

>>130297333
>why did Trump leave the Paris Accord?

because giving shit skinned tin pot dictators $100 billion a year isn't an efficient way of taking in the issue of climate change

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>>130321132
So your records are nearly worthless.

>>130320450
>>130320852

You're completely ignorant and you know literally nothing about the subject.

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>>130296834
>even though the temperature hasn't risen for over a decade

But it has.

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Friendly reminder that the head of the EPA thinks there has been zero warming since the 90s, and thus he is a retard.

What about the medieval heat period? When you could literally farm on Greenland?

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>>130321113
why do people keep posting these completely false reconstructions?
And when it's not flat-out wrong, it's the reconstruction from a single location (without the instrumental record), masquerading as globally average temperature like here >>130313325

for heaven's sake, why can't you just look up the conclusions of actual experts instead of regurgitating things you found on a blog?

>>130296109
Fake and gay like OP

>>130321529
That doesn't count.

>>130321276
And they are all within a range of 20 mm or less than an inch...your point is?????

>>130296421
America would be emitting more if anyone could afford to build anything here.

>>130303912
Hitler should have gassed the Burgers instead of the Jews

>>130303441

the problem is so many people live right next to bodies of water, and whole cities will flood and there will be more immigration and movement of people, loss of life and property. that, and somewhat stronger storms.

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>>130321515
The best head of the EPA we've ever had.

these people just change the data to fit the scary narrative to get governments to give away billions of dollars of money for no reason.

>>130321554

Scientists, that get their funding from the govt, are telling us the world is in trouble.

They are telling us the only way to save us is to give more power to govt and banks


Green is the new red.

>>130321554

I was just showing him even climate change deniers don't deny we should be entering a colder period when the opposite is happening, I wasn't claiming the graph was correct. Thanks for pointing that out though.

>muh climate change
What's the point anyway? Our children will be slaughtered by hords of afro-muslims. I'd say we should completely shit up the planet so those monkeys have a hard time in the future.

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The less you worry about it the better. Don't litter and take good care of the life ö earth. Don't believe the co2 jew.
Flat closed system, it will take care of itself

>>130322054
afro muslims are financed by countries who profit from oil and gas, turning our backs on fossile fuels is a win win situation from that regard. Plus fighting rising temperatures would help us avoid MORE refugees swarming the EU.

>>130310823
This.
First thing I noticed.
Brilliant.
Underrated.
Absolute massive faggotry,

>>130296109
Stop the covert geo-engineering programs and the climate will go back to normal

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>>130321909
a.) does that give you the right to lie about the facts?

b.) most climate scientists barely say anything about actual solutions, all they present are the facts about the climate system and say that we have to leave most fossil fuels in the ground, which is completely uncontroversial

c.) the only climate scientists that I'm aware of, who is actively championing a specific solution is James Hansen and he is advocating for CF&D, which is both revenue-neutral and specifically designed to not increase the power of the government

>>130321897
>The best head of the EPA we've ever had.
He is a fraud, a dangerous piece of shit. He also claimed that CO2 has nothing to do with climate change.

>>130321222
And it's bullshit

>>130322533
facts?
a. they have changed their minds 3 fucking times
global cooling, global warming, and now climate change

b. they are not scientists. They are govt funded pools that are wrong all the time.

c. the govt funded scientists do have a specific solution..are you fucking high?

>>130318641
Looks cyclical and it looks like we're on schedule.

What am I missing?

>>130321961
fair enough

>>130321897
have you ever considered that those graphs could just use different base-lines?
If there is a conspiracy to fake the temperature record, it has got to be the most retarded conspiracy ever. For one, why would they have to fake the record several times, thus risking exposure? Why not fake the graph ONCE and then go with it? This makes no sense

>>130322794
*fools

>>130322794
They call it climate change because they can't prove everything is man made now

>>130322533
btw what happened to the hole in the ozone layer?

tell me about the "great pause"/

tell me about climate gate?

They want to create a one world govt with global banks to take the ppl money and rights away.

They need a "problem" to do that.

Its a scam. look at all the ppl that are pushing for it.

powerful media, powerful govt officials, and powerful global banking structure.

>>130322566
That's right don't question the narrative like the good goym

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>>130322807
Nothing.

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>earth is tilted 23.4 degrees
>heat distrubted evenly along the equator

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dinosaurs are fake as fuck do you know how many god damn leafs a 15 ton 70 foot lizard would have to eat every day just to be able to function let alone move around and fuck and try to outrun predators? like 6 gorillion. not possible

>>130296109
Democrats had control of the white house for 8 goddamn years, and it's still getting hotter.

>>130322794
this "global warming" <-> "climate change" semantics game has got to be by far the weakest denialist argument (besides claiming conspiracy)

climatologists are very clear about the meaning of the term:

Global Warming is the statistically significant rise in globally averaged temperature

Climate Change is the change in climate (weather patterns, precipitation, ice mass,...) that accompanies this rise in temperature

so you say global warming when you talk about temperatures and you use climate change for everything else. None of these terms is a new invention, both have been in use for decades (see the United Nations Framework Convention on CLIMATE CHANGE in 1992 and the Intergovernmental Panel on CLIMATE CHANGE in 1988) and you might note that this idea of a name change also clashes with the idea that climatologists are faking the temperature record: Why would there be a need to re-name the phenomenon if you're faking the data anyway?

Like any internet conspiracy theory, this falls apart as soon as you start to take a closer look at it

>>130322533
i remember after Hurricane Katrina. It was a bad year for hurricanes and tornadoes.

All the liberal big govt idiots were yelling, " SEE , its only going to get worse"

Did it? NO. Record low hurricanes and tornadoes...also ZERO coastal flooding.....

EVERY climate model has been wrong. EVERY ONE!

>>130296141
Unreal, just unreal...Finbro

>>130323681
Global Warming is the statistically significant rise in globally averaged temperature

They sold it the world is warming and the polar ice caps are melting.

NOW its called climate change...why? b/c the polar ice are NOT melting.

Global Temps are NOT rising. That is a fact

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>>130323408
>being this stupid

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>>130322566
>He is a fraud, a dangerous piece of shit. He also claimed that CO2 has nothing to do with climate change.

Did he really say that? source. most "deniar" scientists even think that CO2 has at least some impact. certainly not as large as the alarmists would have you believe, but at least some impact.

>>130324017
>NOW its called climate change...why?

Because Frank Luntz told republicans it was a much less scary term than global warming so they can sell not doing anything about it.

>>130323681
again, they have literally changed their minds 3 fucking times.

global cooling: the earth is headed for an ice age thanks to humans

global warming: the earth is headed for flooding thanks to humans

climate change: the earth is headed for extreme weather thanks to humans.


you can try to bullshit me, but its true. They have changed their minds 3 fucking times. only a moron would still believe the global banking structure.

>>130296421
>Other (30%)
AKA Us military, which is classed separately from the US since they emit so much. Not than Obama or anyone would do shit about this anyway

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>>130323173
I bet if we would live in the 1970s, you would tell me how the attempt to phase out ozone depleting substances was a plot to create a one world government, how Susan Solomon and Paul Crutzen are greedy, lying government scientists and how they're faking their data.

>>130324017
I guess every temperature monitoring body in the world, 3000 argo floats, several dozen radiosondes and every diurnal satellite is just imagining things then

>>130323681
>this "global warming" <-> "climate change" semantics game has got to be by far the weakest denialist argument (besides claiming conspiracy)
Even without claiming conspiracy, they have manipulated data in the past in order to, seemingly, fit an agenda. You can draw a couple conclusions from their decision to do that. They are either unintentionally poor scientists or they are intentionally poor scientists.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
John Bates, a former researcher at the NOAA, discusses this in a whistleblowing on their poor scientific ethics.

>>130296109
let me guess...taxes are the solution right?

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>>130323470
meanwhile it has to compete for leafs with these 85 foot 40 ton motherfuckers who need to eat 15 gorillion leafs a day? dinosaurs are the most retarded fucking psyop people just eat it up because jurassic park

funny how nobody ever found dinosaur bones over the thousands of years of human civilization until like 100 years ago

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>>130323173
Holy fucking shit kid

>btw what happened to the hole in the ozone layer?

It's somewhat recovering because the world listened to its scientists and agreed on getting rid of CFCs in spray cans.

>tell me about the "great pause"/
There is no great pause. Pic related

>tell me about climate gate?
0 evidence of manipulation of data.

>>130323408
Dude....

>>130324412
is there a hole in the ozone layer?

No

Not only is there NOT a hole in the ozone layer NOW they are telling us there is too much. lol

notice every climate conference what do you see?

a run way full of private jets. These jets are full of the most powerful ppl. THEY are telling us to give over more of our freedom and money to save the planet.

how stupid are you?

Even if we followed the climate accord 100% to the letter and every country on earth followed it, it would only lower temperatures by less than .5 of a degree. Literally no point.

I hate to be the one to say it, but I think the only solution to climate change is the genocide of all non-Europeans and non-Americans.

>>130296141
Nigger I urge you, get a Trip YOU deserve it like no one else at the present pre sciecle

>>130296109
It's literally like autumn here right now. I don't remember such cold May and June in years.

>>130324508
John Bates never claimed that NOAA faked their data, he just accused Thomas Karl of putting pressure on his colleagues to publish the paper before COP21
this idea of data fakery is nothing more than a David Rose delusion, who is not a credible source

>>130324636
data from 1970...doesnt realize the earth is billions of years old. fuck off, faggot.

>>130324711
The permafrost methane is already escaping, the goal is now "stop raising" rather than cooling.

>>130323470
But this was when pretty much every inch of the surface of the Earth that wasn't water was covered with plants. And I'm sure the plants, just like the animals, were larger as well and so had more leaves.

>>130324632
They did. You ever hear of those cyclops bones people found millennia ago? The problem is that they didn't know what they were and misatributed them. And all we have to go by are the records of these people calling them bones of giants or cyclopes.

>>130324809
what do you have to say about this, climate shill

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/05/30/global-warming-alarmists-caught-doctoring-97-percent-consensus-claims/#2ccd9cc2485d

>>130324809
lets say global warming, or whatever you are callling it this week, is true.

Would you really give over your rights and money to the global elite?

Do you honestly believe them?

Do you honestly believe they will do whats best for the ppl?

again, how stupid are you?

>>130296109
>HOTTEST YEAR ON RECORD
Starting from when? It was a cold year.

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>>130324675
>is there a hole in the ozone layer? No

you can literally observe it to this very day

>notice every climate conference what do you see? a run way full of private jets

omfg this is ridiculous

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>>130322864
>If there is a conspiracy to fake the temperature record, it has got to be the most retarded conspiracy ever. For one, why would they have to fake the record several times, thus risking exposure? Why not fake the graph ONCE and then go with it? This makes no sense

it makes total sense when you realize how much money is at stake if you want people to continually throw money at you. If you say the world is slightly warming and it's no big deal no one cares. If you say the world is warming and we are all doomed unless you give us more money, you have a job for life. Plus the bureaucrats who give you funding will continue to have jobs.

The truth is the historical temperature record has been changed by a very great amount. funny that it only goes one way with the adjustments

meanwhile crop yields have grown basically every year to record levels. tornadoes haven't increased, drought hasn't increased, floods haven't increased, hurricanes haven't increased. The planet is doing just fine.

>>130296421
>EU makes 9% of emissions

Those Brussels idiots think they can change anything.

>>130324809
>John Bates never claimed that NOAA faked their data
I didn't say they faked their data. I said they manipulated it. More specifically they manipulated the data by using intentionally poor methods. Which John Bates' testimony supports
>It was never subjected to NOAA’s rigorous internal evaluation process – which Dr Bates devised.
>His vehement objections to the publication of the faulty data were overridden by his NOAA superiors in what he describes as a ‘blatant attempt to intensify the impact’ of what became known as the Pausebuster paper.
And later on
>NOAA’s 2015 ‘Pausebuster’ paper was based on two new temperature sets of data – one containing measurements of temperatures at the planet’s surface on land, the other at the surface of the seas.

>Both datasets were flawed. This newspaper has learnt that NOAA has now decided that the sea dataset will have to be replaced and substantially revised just 18 months after it was issued, because it used unreliable methods which overstated the speed of warming. The revised data will show both lower temperatures and a slower rate in the recent warming trend.
Do you have testimony from Bates himself that disputes this?

>>130324636
Go look at stock diagrams for 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, etc. You're going to see different trends based on which you're looking at because you don't see the whole picture at 1 year or less. This is exactly what's happening now. You're posting a picture of a trend over 45 years when the Earth has existed for millions of years. That short amount of time doesn't show the full picture.

>>130324711
>genocide of all non-Europeans and non-Americans
The west, in particular America are the primary polluters, other than muh China which pollutes way less proportionally anyway

>>130325146
I really don't care if this is true or not because I don't care about the opinion of scientists. The actual metric you should be concerned about is what is written in the scholarly literature

>>130324832
You mentioned that there is a "great pause" that figure clearly demonstrates that there isn't.

Did you even graduate high-school?

>>130296109

You think it's time to tell 'em OP ?

>>130324907
yeah because a cyclops would be ridiculous right there must be a more reasonable explanation like maybe giant lizards twice the size of your house that somehow survive on leafs

>>130325369

The assumption in the climate accord is that mass industrialization in the rest of the world is inevitable so it is the role of white nations to pay for and rush the development of every other nation so that they can reach a point where they can meet their needs with green energy.

Instead of all that, why not just genocide them? That literally prevents all that warming and growth.

>>130325211
sooooo there is a hole in the ozone layer AND their is green house effect.


holy fuck you are crazy. cognitive dissonance


ridiculous? really?

after Trump pulled the USA out of the Paris Aggrement who was bitching the most?

GLOBAL BANKING STRUCTURE!


BTW the Paris Agreement doesnt do shit to help the planet. Written by govt and banks to help govt and banks.

>>130325263
you haven't answered the question:
why would they have to fake the data more than once?
Just add a new fake point every year

why would you risk exposure of your brilliant hoax, by changing already faked data?

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>>130296109

IT'S SO HOT, WE'RE KILLING THE PLAN...

OH.. WAIT.

>>130325402
There was a "great pause" for 18 years. fuck off liberal faggot

>>130296421
>EU

That's cute

>>130304038

Perhaps these are the reasons behind the mass migrations from the hot areas of the middle east ?

>>130325311
the original John Bates article is here
https://judithcurry.com/2017/02/04/climate-scientists-versus-climate-data/

>>130325547
Hm, separate species of giant humanoid or giant lizards? Giant lizards are less ridiculous, yes. And science of ancient Greece and other civilizations thousands of years ago finding these bones was more rudimentary than it is now. Not that we're always right now or that they were stupid back then but we have more tools to figure out what the fossils belonged to than they did back then.

What exactly do you think they are from though? You think all fossils are faked? You think that the ancient Greeks saying they were from cyclopes were right?

>>130325589
Many of those countries have nukes, worse case scenario you'd get nuclear war and the whole world would end, best case scenario you'd emit a ton of co2 from all the warfare, and you'd still have the emission problems at home anyway. Plus that wouldn't go over well with most people, even the most committed /pol/ sociopathic poster would probably feel guilty seeing the horror and completely flip in their views. Trying to develop green energy more and getting developing nations to use it rather than pollute is probably a better idea, since first worlders aren't going to give up polluting anyway, they're too hooked on it

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>>130325648
>why would they have to fake the data more than once?
What do you mean? they fake the data for a while. Then new data doesn't fit their theory rolls in, so they have to adjust the data again. not too hard to understand.

Also no data source is sacred. hell the highly regarded NCAR(National Center for Atmospheric Research) used to show that the worlds average temperature decreased by like half a degree Fahrenheit from the 1940s to the 1970s, but that won't show up in any of the graphs you see today.

Were they pressured to adjust their data? idk. but that is what the believed back in the day. Funny enough this also happened to correspond with the whole global cooling scare. If the world were actually warming at that time, I find it a little hard to believe that so many people(scientists included) would be worried about global cooling if it was actually warming or the temps were stable.

>>130326423
>get nuclear war and the whole world would end,

False. The world already had over 1200 nuclear explosions tests and nothing changed. Nagasaki and Hiroshima are perfectly livable.

Worst case scenario, all nuclear power countries stay alive and the rest get glassed.

Yeah, earth has existed for a very long time but human civilization is only adapted to what the climate has been like over the last few thousands of years. Modern cities, food supply chains, etc, were all cultivated and are dependent upon the climate of today.

>That short amount of time doesn't show the full picture.

That wasn't the purpose of the figure. The figure was trying to demonstrate that you have to look for the overall trends otherwise you may end up with the wrong conclusions. And before you accuse me of doing the same thing, the rate of warming and concentration of CO2 ppm that's in the atmosphere EXACTLY coincide with the rate of human industrialization. There is no natural mechanism that can cause the rate of warming today (especially since it should be cooling).

>>130325791
Look at the figure again you fucking drop-out. There is no pause.

>>130326322
I think they're fake as fuck and I think you need a source for ancient greeks finding (((dinosaur bones))) and thinking they were cyclops bones

>>130296109
Science is a fake liberal invention and I only respect it when it validates my opinions - Most of pol

>>130296109
It hasn't hit 70 yet in Oregon and it's mid-June.

>>130325357
>>130326664

>>130297424
>I'm personally capable of deciding how warm it is around the entire world

When did abo's get computers?

>>130308302
>Israel is like a natural rotisserie oven. 80 degrees and high 50% Humidity.

It's a paradise. Especially Haifa and coastal cities. desert winds meet the medaterenian sea.

>>130326664
I dont give a fuck WHAT YOUR SHIT SAYS. Scientists agree for 18 years temps did NOT increase. Stop being a liberal faggot.

>>130326293
Thanks. Reading through it right now. Seems to corroborate much of my sentiments so far.

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>>130296109
so what?

>>130324412
You debunked yourself. The prediction is absolutely wrong.

>>130326552
The average temps did decrease during that period because of the shit tons of aerosols we were emitting.

>>130326552
in your own example from earlier, you allegedly show NASA faking data from half a century earlier. That's clearly not "new data coming in that doesn't fit the theory".

Anyone who thinks about this for 5 seconds could see that the best way to fake the data is just by adding a new point in your graph every year that is slightly higher than the previous one. That way you never have to go back and change data points from several decades ago because you always have an upward trend

but somehow this global conspiracy of nefarious scientists never thought of that

oy vey

>>130325420

Tell us what? You make me curious, Goldstein.

>>130296109
No it's not, they are using one way to measure temperatures from 2000-onwards (satellite, which usually shows 1-2 degree warmer results) and another way to measure it before then (ground).

But since climate science is not science, well, what did you expect?

for example, here
>>130321515
you can see exactly where they switched methodologies, because if it was warming the rate of the increase (the slope) would be the same from 1900-2000, and from 2000-today (in fact the 2000-today one would have a slower rate of increase, due to co2 emissions significantly going down).

>>130326705
science is fake you fucking shill.

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>>130326664
>There is no natural mechanism that can cause the rate of warming today (especially since it should be cooling).

You assume we have a near perfect understanding of the worlds climate here. Why exactly SHOULD it be cooling?

>>130327076
huh?

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>>130326962
Well would you look at that, global temps HAVE been increasing.

Isn't it funny how the oceans seem to warm the most, since they absorb 90% of the warming?

>>130296109
>June
>averaging all temperatures in 2017 from January to June with all of 2016
Boy. It's almost as if the year will average out lower once the colder months come around in the later half of the year. Same applies for it being hotter on the southern hemisphere in the earlier months.

Also what is the delta between the two?

>>130296109

I see no anomaly:

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/ocean/primary/waves/overlay=sea_surface_temp_anomaly/equirectangular=-150,0

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>>130303164
>mfw all the shit eaters that don't know all the things that can be done to geoengineer earth and negate all climate problems completely

>>130326641
1200 over 60 years, vs thousands over a short time, it's totally different. And yeah nagasaki and hiroshima were tiny explosions that happened 70 years ago and still leveled both cities killed 200,000 and irradiated hundreds of thousands more. China india and pakistan retaliating with their 500 or so nukes would destroy America completely

>>130296109
> Israel
hot weather can't melt steel beams

>>130321437
>1 degree Celsius since 1980
Better panic

>>130327322
but hey DRUMPF IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL NATURAL DISASTERS *farts* amirite, my fellow sub 100 iq peers?

>>130296109
buy an air conditioner fag

>>130327019
you can also watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO4bOvxRQnI

this is obviously a conspiracy of the first order

Holy fuck guys I'm experiencing climate change right now. It was hot as fuck, then these water drops fell. The temp must have dropped 15°. What do now? Gtfo here with this stupid climate change shit

>>130296109

FUCK, now i want to live in some island of the pacific ocean.

>>130326664
>And before you accuse me of doing the same thing, the rate of warming and concentration of CO2 ppm that's in the atmosphere EXACTLY coincide with the rate of human industrialization.

Person's height exactly coincides with them playing for the NBA, therefore putting a person in the NBA herpa derpa herpa depra democrat logic

same thing goes for college

herpa derpa did you know that people who have bachelors degree earn more money? THEREFORE THE BIGGEST INVESTMENT A NATION CAN MAKE IS GIVING FREE COLLEGE!!!!! herpa derpa correlation causation.

>>130296109
Been super cold in Washington state

>>130296109
>records go back 100 years

Literally nothing

>>130327367
1. Because solar activity has been decreasing
2. Our orbit has entered into a phase that further decreases the amount of radiation entering the earth.

There is literally no reason why the Earth is warming if not for GHGs.

>>130327611
Thanks Obama. This is how the average Ameriburger thinks

>>130312603
>inb4 retarded shout Jews

>>130327978
This the most infuriating thing about it all. Like is the temperature changing? Yes, we can see it plainly in the graph. But there are so many holes in the argument as to why that you're a (((climate denier))) for calling out. We've only had accurate day to day global tracking of the weather for a few decades. Anything past that was recorded with inaccurate equipment and then past that is based on sediment which cannot give you as clear a picture as daily satellite imagery.

>look at this data from 400 years ago with a margin of error of 10+ degrees anon
>can't you see Earth is 3 degrees hotter than it was then?

When will the dinosaurs apologize for the ice age?

>>130327099
not according to the current NASA records.

It won't ever get fixed by bribing third world countries to fix it or damaging first world economies. It's going to be cheap renewables, nuclear power and doing something about farm animal emissions by either algae/etc or fake meat.

>>130297631
That's called confirmation bias. It means you are very suggestible and easily propagandized.

>>130296109
All I know is that my garden produced well into November and last winter was bearable for once. If this is global warming, I'm digging it. Not my problem if a bunch of backward Afrikaans have failed to evolve enough to be able to adapt to a changing planet.

>>130326047
They're only migrating to countries that give them welfare.

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>>130296109
if the weather channel can't even tell me how hot it will be tomorrow or if it will rain next week, why should i believe what they're claiming about the temperature 25 years from now?

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>>130296421
get ride of nigs and beaners and watch it drop

>>130328462
Yes it does
https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

From 1940 - 1970 you can see a clear decrease

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>>130327121
>in your own example from earlier, you allegedly show NASA faking data from half a century earlier. That's clearly not "new data coming in that doesn't fit the theory".


You are correct. It's not all about fitting in new data that doesn't fit with their theory, it's also largely about "correcting the past" records to fit with the current theory. so it the old data didn't fit your model, hell don't bother changing your model, just change the data!

>>130322864
>have you ever considered that those graphs could just use different base-lines?

Well no it's not a conspiracy, no more than welfare is a conspiracy.

>Hey imma give people who don't work free shit
Oh look people are not searching for jobs anymore. Who could have predicted that?

>Hey look imma give "scientists" money who try to "solve" global warming, and not give anyone money who conducts research trying to disprove global warming.
Oh look suddenly there's a 97% consensus amongst scientists I'm giving money to, and everyone says we need to give them more money or we'll be doomed. Who could have predicted that?

Also, you know the reason they use different baselines? And they show temperatures as a relative functions (+0.5 degrees, -0.5 degrees) instead of absolute numbers?

Because they pick the year that was cooler than the rest, to make it seem like there's more warming.

Notice that on all of these graphs, they don't start at 0. Which is weird, right? Why would you not pick the first year in your graph as your baseline, but pick some other one?

>>130328729
long term it is more predictable but still yea el nino is to blame really and co2 not a big deal desu

>>130313248
S

>>130328163
We didn't have proper global weather tracking via satelite that can now measure the methane release out of a fly's ass until the early 2000s. That means prior to this, all data had a certain margin of error and we relied on those sources to be accurate.

Consider the following: temperatures are changing but not to the degree they state because historic data holds a margin of error well outside of the indicated change.

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>30C and 75% humidity
And it's only fucking June.
It will be hell in mid-August.

>it's super hot
>I'm super sweaty
>go for a shower
>turn the water all the way down as is my wont, always start and end your shower with a blast of cold water, the first one to wake you up, the second one to remind you of how the first one woke you up
>nothing happens, there's no cold water
>it's hell on earth and all the cold water is gone, leaving only hot water in its place

it's so fucking hot guys

>>130326664
>There is no natural mechanism that can cause the rate of warming today (especially since it should be cooling).
There's a lag dude. Learn a bit about this shit before typing.

>>130328827
AGAIN

why would they have to do that if it's all fake? this makes absolutely no sense

>>130328893
But the long term weather is the culmination of all the short term weather. If we had continuous rain storms for a months straight, ground temperatures would fall drastically due to all of the cloud cover and rain fall. Shit like that can't be discounted. Especially when feedbacks like hot oceans causing more rain are a huge factor in future temperatures.

>>130328929
They keep trying to ignore the satellite data sets because they don't report that the sky is falling.

>>130328729
conflating meteorology with climatology.

libertardians are dumber than i thought.

>>130329223
But it's literally the only accurate data. I don't trust data from 50 years ago logged by Pajeet and Ping that have 3 degree margin of error because they're using visual thermometers and paper books to log that shit.

>trust us goy it was super chill back then

>>130329142
>why why why.

we have emails showing that that they do this kind of shit (climategate).

It's like asking "well herpa derpa, I know there's a video of this guy committing a murder, but really, why would he do that?"

Doesn't matter, why, there's proof it has been done. And of course it's not that difficult to figure out why, theres money involved, lots of it.

>>130328099
>1. Because solar activity has been decreasing

What? Solar activity as been at record highs during the 20th century. it has begun to decrease recently but those affects won't be immediate. especially considering we are just exiting a huge el nino event.

>>130329250
like the younger dryas? i don't think meteors are causing climate change you dumb cunt.

>>130329250
Explain the difference and why you think you can seperate the elements that define climate from climate itself.

>bone structure has nothing to do with height
>holding a job has nothing to do with not being poor
>black on black crime has nothing to do with the black homicide rate

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>>130296109
it the US followed the Pairs Accourd for the next hundred years, the greenhouse gases that we would have saved would have been canceled out by china's greenhouse gas emissions in the next 14 days. And Jew boy is in the desert anyway. Why you give a fuck?

>>130303393
Is Eric Dubay /ourguy/

>>130296109
>Yes let's blame the recently elected US president on the constantly decreasing state of global warming.

>>130328827
This video explains why there's a difference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRFz8merXEA

Also, if this were all a hoax, wouldn't it just be easier and safer to just falsify new data, than manipulate old data and leave records that it was manipulated?

>>130329436
if you think you have evidence for fakery you really have to give me more than just the word "climategate"
by the way, how did the climatologists get the Arctic sea ice, the Greenland ice sheet, the sea level and the global GIC to go along with the conspiracy?

P.S. what you said earlier about baselines is just embarassing. We use baselines and anomalies instead of absolute temperatures because that way both the trend becomes visible and it becomes possible to correct for known mathematical biases

>>130327518
>geoengineer

my proposal: pump the co2, warm the arctic, cool the equator with contrails.

>>130329466
But the effects WOULD be immediate though! That's the whole point! If you don't believe in the impact of GHGs, why in the hell wouldn't the effects be immediate?? Solar radiation goes in, solar radiation goes out, right?

>>130329096
What do you mean by "lag"?

>>130307399
this. never have understood the people who like summer

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>>130296109
Been nice and cool for me, must suck living in shit holes.

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The Triple K Mafia and the Moon KKKrew has arrived:

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>>130329142
>why would they have to do that if it's all fake? this makes absolutely no sense


The global warming business has turned into a LITERALLY trillion dollar scam. The dopey climate scientists do this because they want to continue to have a job. the dopey government officials do it because they want to have a job. The dopey renewable energy sector workers do it because they want to have a job.

right now you germans pay about 3X as much for electricity as americans. Do you honestly feel like you are doing anything important for the "global warming" fight with that extra money?

>>130329059
>>130329030

I'm looking forward to the mass death events in all the sandniggeristan areas.

36C + 100% humidity, boil humanity you cruel gods!

>>130330894
You didn't answer the quesiton

>>130330894
I'm obviously not going to get an answer from you about why this conspiracy is on the one hand able to coordinate thousands of scientists all over the world to construct an internally consistent story with billions of fake data points to trick the world - but somehow also acts in the most idiotic and careless way when it comes to exposing their hoax

>>130296109
We have a worldwide set of fiat currencies that require perpetual exponential growth to stay afloat run by a fossil fuel driven physical economy. Hillary would have further increased CO2 emissions by sucking corporate dick. The Paris agreement wasn't going to do much of anything, other than redistribute CO2 emissions at the USA's expense. Bernie might have reduced CO2 emissions by bringing on an economic collapse, but that's neither here nor there. Every suggestion that I hear from the hypocritical left to deal with global warming is either some hair brained "lets spread this shit in the atmosphere to reflect light," or "muh solar!" The latter would collapse an industrial economy and we'd all go back to being 18th century peasants, if we were lucky.

Do you want to start sequestering carbon from the atmosphere? Learn regenerative agriculture techniques and become a farmer. Do you want to stop CO2 emissions? Push for the development of breeder reactors and a shift to a fully nuclear economy.

This is why I hate the left.

>REEEEEEEE! MUH GLOBAL WARMING!
>THESE PEOPLE ARE EVIL FOR NOT BELIEVING IT!

Guess what? Those evil people are not going to listen to you because all you do is mock and insult them.

>>130318641

They didn't keep climate records before that you dolt.

>>130330466
>But the effects WOULD be immediate though!

You are 100% incorrect. That's not how it works.

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>>130296109
>earth is beside a star
>humans are causing global warming

>>130331274
what are you even asking then? Climate scientists change the raw data to fit their models. this is a common practice. you better answer quick since this thread is basically dead

so many fucking idiots ITT and everywhere else

you can't have a good discussion about climate change these days

>>130331929
You're right, it's not how it works in real life. But if GHGs are a non-factor when it comes to the warming or cooling of the planet, then that is EXACTLY how it works. If radiation goes in, and there's nothing to trap it, it goes right back out. Meaning that the global temperatures would always correlate to the amount of solar activity. This clearly isn't the case.

CO2 and other GHGs are trapping solar radiation, causing our planet to warm regardless of the current decrease in solar activity.

>>130296109
Jews want to make same weather as Israel everywhere.

>>130296109
but the world IS flat
and dinosaurs ARE fake
this only makes me support God Emperor Trump more, thanks jew!

>>130296705
google gravity sounds like a space colony program operated by jewgle
jesus christ how terrifying

>>130298053
underrated

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>>130333305
i honestly have no idea what point you are trying to make. Global warming deniers make basically the exact same point that you are. except they don't think we will enter into an end of days catastrophe like you do apparently.

kek kill yourself pussy faggot

>>130333783

How about a Google biotech company dedicated to extending the human lifespan?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calico_(company)

>>130301212
Bet he also thinks Trump is a nationalist and will build wall and MAGA kek.

>>130310564
Этo тoчнo)

>>130324003
>American Education
Norwegian

>>130296109

Current year isn't over Khazarite

>>130329419
I agree that satellite is the best at tracking these sorts of trends. The mainstream alarmists hate it because it doesn't agree with the narrative that they want to project.

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>>130331731
Are you pretending to be retarded?

>>130310823
cant unsee

>retards all over this thread claiming climatechange is the work of a boogie man
enjoy trumps impeachment