/pol/ communism general

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Death to all commies.

>>130292926
Where's your Spanish flag faggot?

>>130292926
It's all fun and games until you got to give your lunch to your classmates.

First for fuck Marxist leninists
>Having a state
Kys

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take your dancelessons leftside!

>better dead then red

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>>130292926
How's Venezuela doing???

>>130292926
Yuri Bezmenov already had Marxism BTFO

get with the times douche

Fuck off lefty pol

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>>130293287

It's a state meant to gradually self-dissolve dummy.

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At this point you may as well call it shitposting general.

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Why do people keep making these threads? Everyone in them is shitting on communism so it seems counterproductive

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Proponents of capitalism argue that the real living standards of those on low pay are better raised by allowing the whole economy to grow. As it grows, those at the bottom of the social heap will benefit from wealth that ‘trickles down’ from the top.
The falsity of this argument can be seen by looking at the figures.
The long term rate of growth of the UK economy is 2.5 percent per annum(1993).

How many years would it take a woman earning the median wage to get up to £300 per week at this growth rate? The answer is 30 years: check it on your calculator. Socialist redistribution could achieve directly what would otherwise take the better part of a working lifetime. With socialism the employee can have her cake and eat it too. She gets a once and for all rise in income through redistribution, but economic growth does not stop, so she will continue to enjoy rising earnings year by year.

>>130292926
shariah>communism

>>130295622
Unironically this.

It's actually more efficient than communism.

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>>130295537
Nobody but ignorant twats argue that money trickles down because there is no such thing as trickle down economics. You have to pay your employees first and hope that you make a profit. If you had even a modicum of business acumen you would know this but seeing as how you're a pathetic commie faggot with no skills and a big ego it doesn't seem to get through. Just kill yourself

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>>130292926

Communism was never about succeeding, but about Collapse & Death.

http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

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>>130296949

>>130300189

>black people
>working.

>>130300654
>black
>people

>>130294218
Will never happen, sorry bud.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9CbgexJLK8

>>130302622
Go away evil dogger.

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>>130305924
>that video quality

>>130294185
But we're also leftists as we are anarchists.

>>130292926
Since communism is normalized in our society it is NOT politically incorrect and has no place being posted in /pol

>>130292926

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>>130292926

Hey cabron, quiere que te prepare el helicóptero?

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>>130292926
I am going to take everything you want while you starve, okay? Does that sound good? I am going to be the most corrupt thing that'll ever occur because True Communism will never exist for it goes against the founding principles of communism in of itself. pic related.- Strong government, your false beliefs.

>>130310126
muchas gracias mi amigo

>>130312369

But that's not communism comrade

>>130312574
But it is, you'd understand if you stood in line to lick a wooden spoon which was used to make bread once and drink out of a septic tank filled with Kvass while waiting to visit a grave which is thought to benefit the state.

>>130292926
>and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need
How do you figure out what society needs? How do you figure out who works where?

>>130313049
>How do you figure out what society needs? How do you figure out who works where?

With computerized planned economy.

>>130313333
But how does the computer figure out what the people need?

You have absolutely zero idea about the world.

I am from Brazil. Believe me: communism is only good for those who are friends of the powerful. For the middle class and the poor, it's shit.

>>130314019
>I am from Brazil. Believe me: communism is only good for those who are friends of the powerful. For the middle class and the poor, it's shit.

what? some social democrat you might know is not communism

>>130313049
>How do you figure out what society needs? How do you figure out who works where?
people own the means of production. That's how they produce what they know they need

>>130313791
Yes. And how would he determine the prices?

And I won't even mention that the premise itself is very weird. Would you like having a computer determining what you should do? I wouldn't. I'd rather be free, even though that could mean I might end up in the shit someday, than having to obey a computer for some sort of 'common good' which I don't care about.

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>>130307485
..teehehee

>>130314286

Computers unlike humans won't become corrupted selfish bastards that's the point

>>130314181
Communism is idealism. It's an utopia and, therefore, is not able to be refuted, just like all other sorts of pseudoscience.

If you want to talk about real stuff, we can talk about how the influence of the state is bad for the country. In real life, so-called communism means big state, even though, in the magical theories of Mr. Marx, it meant something very different. From Lula to Chavez, all of the politicians which were supported by the left tended to love the big state, and turned it into a massive machine which destroyed their countries' economies.

Commies are clueless about the world.

Forget about your dreams which will never be accomplished and focus on things that actually exist.

One of the biggesst hipocrisies of the commie is to talk about his ideology in terms of utopian communism whilst ignoring the evils of real-world communism, and talking shit about real-world capitalism while not even considering that the capitalist systems we have today are very different from utopian capitalism.

>>130314272
>commissary privilege
>party member privilege
>utter silence and disappearance of dissenters
>falsified crimes for GULag slave labor
I hate responded but this is for the lurkers.
>irony
>in Capitalist societies, you can be a marxist
>in (((Communist))) countries, any "Counter-Revolutionary" thought is met with execution
Kek

>>130314499
And why should I wish to obey a computer?

And who would be the humans that would program the computer?

Suppose the computer chooses what's better for me. What if I don't want it? What if I want McDonald's instead of vegetables? Then you would have to take into account personal preferences two, and now we have two different criterias: that which is objectively the best, and that which is personally the best. How is the computer going to be able to gather data about the second bit? And, by the way, how is it going to gather data about the first one anyways? Do you intend to make some sort of mega, ultra-personal census?

And what if there are more moral criteria? Who is going to select them? Who will be the programmers, what will be the philosophy of the programmers, and why should I wish to accept it?

Stop with this utopian thinking. This is childish stuff. The real world is different.

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>>130292926
This is now my thread

>>130314272
At the individual level, individuals know what they need and how to prioritize those needs because they know everything about themselves. They have all the information, which allows them to make these decisions. However when you move up to the society scale, society doesn't know what it wants because society isn't hive mind. It has no way of gathering all the relevant information.


At the individual level, a family can accurately estimate how many cars it needs. Without profit, how does society determine how resources should be diverted to make a sufficient amount of Boeing 747s?

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>workers deserve returns from the investment they never made
>profitable investments should be outlawed
>free enterprises who employ people should be outlawed
>wtf, how come everything went to shit?!
Commie suicide commies.

>>130315275

Utopias are achievable. Humans can make great stuff working together.

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Reminder: communism is a mental illness, it's not something you can reasonably argue against. Trust me, I have been trying to reach commies for a solid decade.
Jordan Peterson understands and explains this with extreme detail: https://youtu.be/aDRgMUoEvcg?t=30m20s

There's no debate to have with commies on the economics academia, because they don't even have a ground to stand on, this is all purely philosophical and psychological dementia. Look at how young trannies and porn addicts are over represented among them.

>>130316925
Damn son, why is it ALWAYS that these marx/lenin/comm/whatever they call themselves is always a fucking student or works in service jobs or shit. Lord, in all my experience working in agriculture and transportation & logistics, I have never seen these types at all. AND I'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH 17 STATES!
If Reddit or IRL protest by "revolutionaries", from Trump's Inaugruration to recent rallies are any indicators that these are them? Then they ain't shit! (Note, I despised those LARPing "Right-Wing" youngins too, utter cringe).
Fucking boys.

>>130318642

Well you live in the most classcucked country on the planet, people unaware that they are having their labor exploited and collaborating with imperialists spreading misery around the world.

>>130317009
>Humans can make great stuff working together.
Too bad they cant work together.

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>>130292926
Daily reminder that there has never been a successful socialist society.

>>130319860

why not?

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>>130319893

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>>130320356
Nose ring ruins the look honestly.

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>>130320005
Because people work best when their work is directly associated with the reward they receive, and any system that fucks with that work/reward relationship in an unnatural way is bound to fail.

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>>130294218
KEK.
>Say state is bad
>make totalitarian super state
>"It's actually meant to self dissolve dummy"
>USSR dissolves
>"The USSR would have been better than any first world country if it hadn't dissolved!!
It's almost as if commies have no consistent beliefs whatsoever. Will we have a libertarian free country where people can associate themselves as they wish, or will we have a totalitarian super-state that monopolizes all resources which throws degenerates like you in labor camps where they labor to death?

>>130309961
weak argument

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>>130321690
>"It's actually meant to self dissolve dummy"
>USSR dissolves
>"The USSR would have been better than any first world country if it hadn't dissolved!!
I can't believe I went all this time without noticing that.

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>>130321757
How about this:
"Removing profits and incentives for investments, employment, and economic growth, would destroy society."
How about this for an argument?
Or perhaps: "Why would workers deserve the returns from the investments they never made?" Is this a good argument?
Maybe I could go with : "After over 50 years of undisputed leadership, no self proclaimed socialist nation ever managed to abolish money." Is this a weak argument?

>>130319612
You gotta be a numbnut or lack any sort of discipline if you don't have $100k by 25.
>but muh kids
Why did you have them without being financially secured?
>but muh student debt
Who said a degree without researching it's prospects will automatically give you a salary?
>but muh capitalist bouriegeous?
No one is literally stopping you from getting a $45k a year job right now?
Ya might need to uproot current location though.
>but muh expenses hella high N sheeeiit
Fucking reduce them and rent a garage converted room, apply for a "co-op" living center or be well equiped to be homeless a few months to a year while drastically saving. Nobody owes you shit for your fuck ups boy.
t.32y.o. former herder and current Trucker/Cannabis grower, working since 16 and really... REALLY financially secured with only $167 in debt that will be balanced in a week.

>>130308186
Change the output going into the state and being used up by the elite and you got it

>>130320206

My god, *sniff* pure ideology! How can you simply ignore the work of Lacan and the Frankfurter schule and so on and so on? *sniff*
'

>>130322367

That wouldn't be communism.

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>>130325930
"Not real communism" strikes again!

>>130292926
Din't mind me, just casually bumping this because I want the guy with the Gommunusim copy pasta to see it so I can steal his rare Benis.

post the spurdo version

>>130326149

You don't like facts?

>>130292926

State sponsored eugenics is better. Start weeding out undesired traits (low IQ, illness susceptibilities, other complex traits), and all this bullshit about inequality and wealth redistribution go away. In a handful of generations, we'd have the first society to think rationally, act non-violently, and truly live in a free-market.

Done.

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>>130326394

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>>130326742

>Basing society on the market

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>>130326674
Like the fact that there's never been a successful Communist society?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4&t=903s

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When will communism work?

>>130292926
I'm going to ask you guys a question. As an actual worker, someone who busts their ass and gets dirty for my paycheck, why would I follow you guys. Why would the people I work with follow you guys. Most of you guys that I see spouting off this communist shit are fucking nerds that never worked a day in your life. I don't mean bagging groceries or working at a warehouse, I mean actual fucking work. You know, like what your symbol implies.

See, you guys aren't workers, and you don't intend to work after your little revolution. You're college kids from suburban neighborhoods who want to tell workers what to do. That's why you like this idea so much, you think you'll be one of the decision makers. You don't appeal to me at all, you appeal to faggots and furries though, for some reason. You will never have your revolution because you're all weak faggots.

>>130327330

When socialism takes over USA it will be a good opportunity to establish a socialist state , then in the near or far future society will gradually reach the communist society.

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>>130327405

Just start by reading Marx it won't hurt.

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Nobody will accept communism

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>>130327507
And it will work this time unlike all the other times because?

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>>130327677
How about an actual fucking answer instead of a cop out appeal to authority?

>>130327750
>And it will work this time unlike all the other times because?

Material conditions are better than in Russia 100 years ago, we have computers, robots, etc, perfect for automatizing production like never before.

>>130326936
>>Basing society on the market

Yep, glad to do it, too. Weak ppl using the state to level the playing field has been tried, with countless millions of dead in exchange.

Once we have full and complete control of the genes correlated with IQ (that is not science fiction, but will be reality in 3-5 yrs), low IQ populations will become things of the past. We won't need crazy political ideologies to cull and control people. Intelligence and rational thought will be the order of the day, and free market principles will be the only paradigm these (near) future cultures will accept.

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>>130327943
Computers and automation didn't stop the Soviet Union or Communist China from failing.

>>130327870

Is not to appeal authority , is not about taking the word of Marx like a religion but a lot of what he says makes a lot of sense, just read the manifesto it is easy to understand and makes a lot of sense even today then make up your own conclusions with what else you know.

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>>130327943

Then why hasn't China improved?

>>130328121

Computer automatization of the state was never implemented in the soviet union, it was rejected by silly politicians.

>>130327943
>don't worry, this isn't the other communism
>this communism has robots and sheeeeit

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>>130328176

Of course it is, that is why you push this shitty ideology day in day out, hoping that you will convert us. Some days you use apologetics, others you do shit like this where you post propaganda.

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>>130292926
friendly reminder that you can never enforce collectivism to the public.

Property isn't theft, without property businesses become stagnant and then resources get easily neglected.

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>>130327870
Because they know it's fucking bullshit. They want to sit around and think of the perfect system, but one has to ask where do they see themselves after a communist revolution? Are they going to be like "finally, now I can get back to work and get what I deserve"? Or do they see themselves sitting behind a desk commanding other people what to do?

I just don't see them cracking open a manhole cover and crawling down there to do what needs to be done. I don't see them collecting trash. I don't see them harvesting crops. I don't see them being truck drivers. I don't see them being mechanics.

>>130328521

But even Marx was talking about the advances of automation 150 years ago, robots and sheeit is nothing new.

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>>130328176
You're not actually answering his question though, you're just saying "read Marx" as though Marx hasn't already been debunked.

>>130328267
What about China then? Or Venezuela? Or Cuba? Or North Korea? Or Vietnam? These nations have all the necessary technology yet still Communism fails them.

>>130308709
No. Lolbertarians believe in the freemarket and capitalism. That's right-wing economics

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>>130328860

That doesn't mean we will all be communist.

>>130292926
Collectivism doesn't work on Earth

>>130302622
go away evil dogger

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>>130329062
It's funny how apparently the ONLY way Communism can "work" is if it is in a nation that is so developed and prosperous that no one wants Communism.

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>>130292926
This is the world communist want but theyre too stupid to admit it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0hTrnaa8aE

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>>130329192

ayyyy

>>130326571
nobody has it?

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>>130329332

Communists have always tried to co-opt the West for it. Notice how they don't care for the actual communist countries? They never want to go to Cuba or Venezuela, nor will they step foot in Africa. North Korea and even China of all places. Communists are just lazy and want to use a country that has already been built up.

So I guess no communists or socialists want to answer my question as to why real workers should join them? Because it seems to me, as a worker, that a bunch of non-workers are basically just telling me that I should let them be my overlords and manage my day-to-day life. And I look at these guys, and I see a bunch of teen kids dressed in all black attacking actual workers and places of business, or attack them as being "uneducated". You alienate the people you supposedly fight for. You don't want to help them, you want to rule over them as bureaucrats. And you don't even look like you could do that correctly, because it's just a loose collection of homeless junkies and misguided college kids without any real world experience.

>>130292926
'communism is the next stage of humanity'
surely you meant those inside the collective

>>130329614
In order for collectivism to work you need uniformity of thought. Notice how hard that is on Earth. But I guess that's why communists have "Re-education camps"....

>>130292926

If this new sci-fi communism with robots and computers also comes with no jews, negros, or A-rabs, then I'll be willing to give it a whirl.

>>130330254

Homogenization of culture is already happening, thanks to the internet.

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>>130330254
I've talked to Communists on this board a lot, one of them basically admitted that the only way for Communism to work would be if they stole our children from birth and sent anyone who disagreed to an insane asylum.

When I asked him how on Earth communism could possibly be worth that level of suffering he basically responded "if communism can't work then what do we have to live for?"

It's a fucking religion man, just as bad as Islam, maybe even worse.

Communism is a mental disorder, also fuck that spanish tart.

>>130292926
'communism is the next stage of humanity'
surely you meant those inside the collective
confused aboout he new flags, obviously, i'm hitler

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I thought China was to the communist, what Japan was to the weeaboo.

Why don't commies want to live in China? Capitalists do it.

>>130330424
True. That's also the reason for the "migrant crisis". This is all being done on purpose and is being directed by off planet entities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5JoQT7XhW0

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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD

>>130327677
Nobody's reading a book from a fat,lazy slob who defined the NEET lifestyle and tha grew warts from not bathing, try harder faggot.

>>130328176
>Marx
>literally the ultimate NEET
>>130327405
Nah man, I reckon these folks never give a good rebuttal. Plus, most of them are college students or barely doing something while gettin' gibzmedatz.
Hell, research them online and actually judge them by appearnce son! Boy I'll tell you what, they don't look like they ever held a .22 nor even done any type o' greased up auto repairs of sort!
WWEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW!
>you will gives us the means of production or else kulak!
LAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!

>>130330558
For whatever reason, people love to be told what to do. That's why it doesn't matter what form of control we choose by the "controlers". Things will never change until people start taking responsibility for their own lives.

don't worry, I will provide you pension

>>130292926
Never again will we submit to communism in the west, it always creates an oligarchy more oppressive than the bourgeoisie it vilifies. Everything that makes the bourgeoisie bad in Marxist philosophy must be done by a central state in actual practice. Community councils are impossible and never function at all. Communism has only ever changed who owns the means of production, and little to alleviate the woes of the working class.

Furthermore, with state owned production and consumption, they have never been able to correctly estimate production to need and end up with vast overstocked and underestocked resources. It spawns black markets because rare necessities have obvious inherent value to people over common goods, even if the state dictates a price. Availability becomes mob run, party members take their share first, what workers have becomes random and scarce. In many instances, the scarce resources become clothing and food. Other times it's cars, electricity, or housing. The over produced resources are always weapons for the state military, propaganda, State run news and press. the state prioritizes its leaders, then members, then those that keep it in power. It turns out that's around half of the population, enough to keep the rest in line no matter how shitty things get.

Communism inevitably has always created poverty ridden oppressive dystopias and always will. It is an inherently flawed ideology.

Go move to a hell hole that already has it if you like it so much.

>>130331702
9 minutes,, no replies, worry, banksters

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>>130292926
This time it's going to be different, I swear.

>>130332575
Communism is a Con Game by the "elites"...

>>130332942
no way

>>130333689
Freedom under Centralized Government!!

>>130333825

Optimized society. We communist don't believe in free will, there is not basis for it in the material world.

>>130333174
Ya got burned son⬇;
>>130332575

>>130333825
freedom from your idiot wealthy neighbour

>>130334035
I'd rather have a wealthy neighbor than live amongst a bunch of "equal" hive minded worker bees being dictated to by a small circle of elite "government" party families that horde all the good stuff at your expense. Smart.

>>130292926
>Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
So you kill a few hundred million more innocent people, wall everyone in, and wait for your delusional little safe-space to collapse. Then capitalism comes in again and pulls your people out of poverty and misery.

For reference, see every single instance of communism ever.

>>130334498
so would i, unless his riches were leached on my superior capabilities

>>130332575
>uniroinically believes the liberal media when they call the victim of the day a "dictator"
Oh, sweetie.
They didn't exactly have computers and spreadsheets and trading partners who weren't cucked out of trading with them by the US's own insecurity back then. You also pretend that depressions weren't ridiculously frequent in your halcyon gold standard days. You're repeating a false narrative.
>>130334498
If you were the wealthy neighbor, you know you'd rather not have your poor self as the neighbor.
You're not old enough to think for yourself yet, kid.

>>130334957
Whatever boy, just make your ass stay in the city or "progressive" town and don't come to the country side.
>big scawee animalz and scawee awea fah fwom da city

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>>130335397
>1 post by this id
Is that you?

>>130334957
>If you were the wealthy neighbor, you know you'd rather not have your poor self as the neighbor.

This is projection.

>>130335626
power vs reason

>>130335911
>power vs reason
The first self-rationalization of the cuck.

>>130335911
we might have power, but power corrupts
it's complicated

>>130292926
IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING IN CUBA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg3tt0hf9pE

>>130336255
>unruhe
DROPPED

>Be autistic Spanish faggot with no job or life
>Had the choice to be a NEET on /a/ and have some dignity posting 2D waifu all day

Instead

>Become spastically obsessed with failed ideology which has proven time and time again to not work
>Post a commie thread on a right-leaning board, sometimes 3+ threads a day
>EVERYDAY for SEVEN MONTHS
>Try to bump your own thread with lame memes and reply to posts hours after the fact
>Get completely shit on in EVERY thread
>THOUSANDS of threads at this point
>Get shit on THOUSANDS of times
>Seven months later you are still EXACTLY where you started

At first it was annoying, now its just sad. Sad and hilarious

>>130336108
I don't have a gun, so you can shoot me at whim, Alex,, but I thrust you will not

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>>130336255
Cuba's been communist for a long time mate.

>>130336412
>muh helicopters
is not an argument.
>THOUSANDS of threads
>who is George Webb
>what is a larpening
>>130336447
You haven't given me a reason yet.

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>>130336412
My sides, I didn't know he had been doing this shit for 7 months, oh my gosh is this guy like Chris-Chan or something?

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>>130292926
Not every Anarchist is a fucking commie kek

>>130336618
> haven't given me a reason yet
goes both ways, you are stirrring up, let's kill some guys

>>130336412
Probably he is paid for this. Poorly paid but paid.

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Communism can work but It needs white unity. Communism is by far the perfect ideology for a society of intelligent, educated, hardworking people with Christian values. People who are intrinsically motivated to help thy neighbour and serve their community. The only race who understands these values are whites. White people will help each other for no material gain, they understand that there is strength in unity. Collectivisation makes us all stronger, in evolutionary terms 5 people are more likely to survive a lion attack than an individual. It is in our self interest as the white race to form strong bonds against other forces. Other races simply do not understand this advantage and are in constant conflict with themselves and others. Capitalism's only true benefit is it keeps these non-whites in line and is a motivation for socially isolated white individuals to serve society as a worker. In a communal communist society made of only whites with strong ties, communism will allow us to advance beyond our wildest dreams. All we gotta do is get rid of the mudslimes and kikes.

>>130337001
Nah, I'm good.

>>130326517
LMAO ME TOO BRAT

>>130337079
Got your communism and shove it up your ass.

>>130336721

He started before xmas last year, there used to be a netherlands fag and leaf that posted the same thread as well, but they gave up. They had a little discord channel where they plotted to turn /pol/ into a commie board by spamming this thread lmao

His chums gave up long ago but spanishfag is too autistic to stop, he has reached abatap levels now

>>130337092
you are totally killing 4chan, we suppose to hate eachother

>>130337079
Do you think it doesn't show that you changed your message to fit the /pol/-beliefs?

Also, collectivism is a benefit to a certain extent, but a human being will ALWAYS put himself and his family before the others. This is something commies refuse to recognize.

>>130337762
Or the fact that communism puts all the power in the hands of a very small elite with little mechanisms of control.

I suspect Communists are just egotistical bastards that masturbate to idea of being part of the new ruling class after the revolution to come.

>>130338157
>arachnism
I hate spiders. So, um, bang?

>>130338091
>I suspect Communists are just egotistical bastards that masturbate to idea of being part of the new ruling class after the revolution to come.
No, they're just retards who don't realize the free market always produces more wealth, making capitalist countries able to out-compete communist countries, every-time.

It's an ideology driven by emotions, not logic. communism/leftism is inherently feminine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assemblywomen

>>130338567
>free market always produces more wealth
What good does that do me, corporate cocksucker?
>compete
>thinks that the Western trade embargoes against socialist countries were competition, not collusion
Collusion works every single time.
This is why you need to rake yourself.

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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

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>>130338758
>1 post by this id
>in each communism general

>>130338748
Half Europe was communist as China and a bunch of African and Asian Countries.
>The Embargoes, the Embargoes made Communism fail! It was not our fault! It wasn't real Communism!!

>>130339340
Don't worry, my little Franquisto, you will learn to enjoy capitalism taking away your siestas and replacing them with unpaid work hours.

>>130338748
>What good does that do me, corporate cocksucker?
It makes things like food affordable.
>Collusion works every single time.
So, you admit socialism/communism is inferior to capitalism?
Every time a socialist country emerges, it will get cockblocked by capitalist countries?
What makes you think it's going to be any different this time?

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>>130339526
>What is a non Sequitur?
Commie Logic

>>130339585
>It makes things like food affordable.
I'm sure the food banks would love to hear you lecture on that. Stop reading your cue cards and engage the argument from a standpoint of political economy, which doesn't stop existing just because neoclassicals wrote it out of the curriculum.
>Every time a socialist country emerges, it will get cockblocked by capitalist countries?
The status quo usually wins. You capitalists would be just as fucked in the reverse case. The difference is that the people are getting tired of the ruling class's shit, all around the world.
>>130339735
0/10 here's your (You)

nig nogs

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>>130339963
>The difference is that the people are getting tired of the ruling class's shit, all around the world.
That's where fascism and libertarianism comes along.

>>130339963
>You capitalists would be just as fucked in the reverse case.
Wrong, even if the whole world would be communist, people would get sick of the low food supply and the low quality products. There would be a coalition of countries that would rebel against communism.
They would become capitalist countries and destroy the other communist countries.

Humans have been capitalists since the dawn of civilization. It's the natural way.
A person will allways work harder, if it means he'll get a bigger reward. If everyone makes the same amount of money no matter what job they practice, then why would anyone want to become an engineer (years of college/university), when they might as well become an assebly worker (and make the same amount of money)?

>inb4 to help his society
That's not how human nature works.

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Saturday night posting commie threads in /pol/
Your life is an abject failure.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8LnlzQyVJg

>>130341195
What was so non-capitalistic about ancient times and medieval times?
If anything it was even more capitalist then it is nowadays.
The workers were actually (somewhat) "exploited" back then.

>>130341072
>people would get sick of the low food supply and the low quality products
You're begging the question. You're also claiming that the low food supply wasn't due to the embargo.
That coalition of countries that would rebel would have to find some support from outside themselves, or be sufficiently autarkic.
>They would become capitalist countries and destroy the other communist countries.
More likely, they would be fucking left to Somalia-tier famine to choke on their own bullshit.
>Humans have been capitalists since the dawn of civilization. It's the natural way.
>civilization
>natural
Oh, this is too funny. Hunter-gathering was natural. Agriculture was not. Appeal to nature fallacy.
>A person will allways work harder, if it means he'll get a bigger reward
False. People work harder so that they can eventually be contributed for not working harder.
>If everyone makes the same amount of money no matter what job they practice, then why would anyone want to become an engineer (years of college/university)
>what are merit scholarships
Because they'll be paid to go to a free university to develop those skills, hurr durr.
>That's not how human nature works.
It is, in a situation of abundance. Capitalism has to create scarcity in order to function. This is part of the purpose of the growth imperative.

>>130341796
There were reciprocal obligations on the part of their exploiters, which often included free access to the natural resources held by their lords.