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>>130286205
Capitalism can be used for evil as much as it can be used for good.
If i killed a man with a fork would you be posting "fork users will defend this" type of thread? Give me a break.
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He's pretty old to be having his first day at working any job
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>>130286205
someone failed to lock out/tag out The broken machine wasn't the issue, people not following procedure was the issue.

This is like machine shop 101. If the machine is fucking broken, LOCKOUT TAGOUT. If you don't you deserved whatever death you buy.
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>>130286920
what about the decision to waste rum, where are the 'market efficiencies?'
>>130286536
>capitalism used for good
lol what, I can't think of single example where capitalism serves the good better than socialism.
>inb4 technology
that is like saying feudalism created the wheel or is responsible for Galileo's science. Science and technology will advance no matter what economic system
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>>130286920
>If you don't you deserved whatever death you buy.
>killed a temp on his first day
>he deserved
pretty brutal there sweetie
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>>130287321
dont mistake greed for capitalism.
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>>130286920
kys
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>>130287785
capitalism is impossible without greed
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Communists will defend this
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>>130288107
humans too are impossible without greed. Greed will be in your utopian socialism too , people will die working for nothing. One is not better than the other but atleast capitalism advances human race at a much faster rate and is less lethal than the likes of socialism.
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>>130286205
Failure to use lockout.
Failure of operator to ensure machine was clear of all personnel before restart.
Poor machine maintenance.
Poor worker training.
Poor communication.

>It's the company's fault.
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>>130286205
What does this have to do with capitalism?
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>>130288295
Nothing wrong there the radiation was socialised so everyone got a fair share of it.
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>>130286205

Industrial accidents really freak me out. I've seen some messed up videos.

>>130288521

It's the company's fault. They allowed a new, clueless employee to work with the machines without any kind of training.

If someone is considering to work as a carpenter, tradesman or factory worker, he should take a look at reddit OSHA and Watch People Die. Never dismiss safety regulations, RULES ARE THERE FOR A REASON. Even the ones you don't understand.
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>>130288521
What..? Those are all things that are the company is responsible for
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Blood and rum for the blood and rum god
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>>130286205
Holy shit... communists are fucking RETARDED.
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>>130288521
Why did the company decide to let thousands of bottles of rum go to waste instead of fixing the problem? Why didn't a new rum company that is more efficient takeover the market?

>Poor machine maintenance.
>Poor worker training.
>Poor communication.
whose responsibilities are these?
>>130288757
capitalist economy does not provide efficient use of resources and devalues human life
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>>130286205
wait, so people no following proper procedure, like wait for that arsehole to get out of the machine before starting it up is the company's fault?
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>>130288107
Working for free is sooo much better, right? Ambition is evil too!
>>130287321
>single example where capitalism serves the good
idk man, so far capitalism provided best living standards in history, while communism killed 89-118 (USSR+Communist China) millions of its own people.
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retarded fucking niggers can't follow the most basic of safety procedures therefore communism. what a compelling argument.
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So some nigger got killed, who cares?
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>>130286205
so why wouldn't he be dead with communism?
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>>130286557
and?
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>>130286205
>worthless chimp nigger dies

Who cares. The subhumans at the bottom are an expendable and easily replaceable source of cheap labor. He was lucky to have a job at all.
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>>130287557
That shift manager was a moron too. If it were up to me I'd charge him with negligent manslaughter for failure to comply with posted company policy (I promise you it was posted. OSHA is very aggressive about this).

That temp obviously either didn't pay attention to the lockout tagout video which is mandatory training for any machine shop/factory or wasn't shown it because the shift manager was disobeying policy in more than one way.

The assumption made by OP's faggotry is that some how some suited capitalist was up there telling his workers to crawl under a machine to sweep glass without safety protection. That machine would have crushed that dude even if it were in good repair. What happened here was a failure of the shift manager to properly control and train his team.

BTW, show me the shop that doesn't have machines in need of repair and I'll fuck a dog. Safety standards exist to protect you from machines in all states of disrepair. They're exhaustive and thorough, and most accidents happen because people don't read them or don't think about them.
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>>130286205
Biggs looks 30. Was engaged. And was at his first day of his first job ever? Capitolism didn't do this, this was Gods will
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>>130286205
Remember Ford Pinto? I member

>tfw capitalist calculated it would be cheaper to pay compensation to people mutilated by faulty engines than call back a series
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>>130289163
Does communism value human life? How many died in USSR again? How's Venezuela doing? Capitalist societies have the highest standard of living seen in human history. In Canada and USA, our poor people are rich.
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>>130289854
This

Anyone who's worked in a factory know the standards are strict as fuck.
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>>130286205
Right.... this could never happened in a state run rum factory!!!!!!
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>>130286205
>people think their lives are worth something
Topkek
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>>130289689
Nigga was 30 years old at his first day of work ever and was prob trying to get injured for workers comp. Fuck him
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>>130289512
my brother in law is a manager at a plant similar to this, and you're basically correct. these people NEVER follow any safety instructions and when they end up getting fired they say "muh racism" even tho they nearly got someone else killed for their stupidity and laziness
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>>130289980
Because communists invented so many safe cars. Capitalism is the reason deaths from traffic accidents are generally going down year on year.
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>>130289163
>Why did the company let thousands of bottles of rum go to waste
For exactly the reasons started: it was more market-efficient ("cheaper") to just stop the machine and quickly fix it whenever it malfunctioned in this way than it was to shut down the entire line and conduct more extensive (and expensive) repairs. It's not like there's a limited supply of rum in the world, and wastage is a part of all industrial processes. Hell, it's a part of all processes period.
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>>130286205
And communism fixes the problem how exactly? Quality control was one of the biggest problems in Soviet manufacturing. No one was paid enough to actually give a shit, so shoddy craftsmanship plagued the consumer goods in the USSR.
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>>130286205
I'm not a huge fan of capitalism but this isn't capitalism's fault. This is what you get when your entire work force is made up of niggers.
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>>130290358
knowing your car will fuck people up and not doing anything about it is legitimately evil
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>>130286205
If you'd ever worked in a factory
>communist
>working manual labour
you'd know that even the best run and most modern factory has an absolute shitload of breakage. The issue here is the supervisor being a lazy nig and not following lockout protocol
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>>130289854
why negligent? seems more like murder to me.
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>>130289980
I remember the Ford Pinto. What a piece of shit that car was. Reminds me of the funny bit from the 80's movie Top Secret.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngtALzDAIcU

BTW that qt 3.14 in your image reminds me of the Japanese Metal group - Band Maid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TkHpvaO09c
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>>130286205

those motherfucking niggers for fuck sake, can't work properly even as production workers
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>Dumb people is a fault of capitalism
Those retards literally forgot they sent him down there mere minutes after doing so.
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>>130286205
So incompetent and lazy niggers don't do their job, and don't follow protocol, resulting in the death of a coworker. But capitalism caused it? There are no lazy and incompetent workers (or run down equipment) under communism?
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>>130290536
>/pol/ will defend this
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>>130289163
>communism provides more efficient use of resources

Tell that to the millions of people who starved and lived in destitute poverty under communism.

Go talk to anyone in Poland or Russia over the age of 60
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>>130286205
>Defending a nigger
Typical commie.
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>>130287321
>I can't think of single example where capitalism serves the good better than socialism.
>the good
how vague and subjective, comrade.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150910013434/https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140101175721.htm
>The United States’ global share of biomedical research spending fell from 51 percent in 2007 to 45 percent in 2012, while Japan and China saw dramatic increases in research spending.
A socialist takes office and the world gets less medical research than it did under the evil capitalists. Thanks socialism.
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>>130286205
Wrongful death suit because management didn't provide proper safety training and failed to have maintenance lockout tagout the equipment.
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>>130286205
Ahh no.
He died due to work place negligence and the courts will compensate his family and the company will be brought to justice.
None of those things are possible under communism.
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>>130286205
Anecdotal, could've happened to anyone. Look at the statistics and recognize it as an isolated event, and then based on the numbers, logically conclude - Day Davis was an unqualified piece of shit and he basically killed himself
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>>130286205
>temp worker on his first day of his first job of his entire life has a fiance

what is your excuse /pol/?
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>>130286205
so under communism machinery don't malfunction?
cool
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>>130289163
at least they lose money when they fuck up unlike in a communist system, dummy
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>>130291242
I don't want a nigger fiance
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>>130286205
>operator and supervisor operate machine knowing fellow black man is below

i'm getting conflicting information on this black lives matter thing
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>>130289980
what is wrong with this?
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>>130286205
Under communism no one ever died in the labor camps and also the camps were much more productive

Like when they dug that canal in Siberia but it at the end the canal was too shallow and thus unusable. But still ended up with 300k dead from it.

Oops I mean no one died. And the canal was really good.

Fuck Capitalism man
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>>130291242
This stuck out to me as well.
Except why would he have proposed if he has never had a job.
My first job was when I was 14
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>>130289163
>whose responsibilities are these?
The shift manager who was more than likely a piece of shit and should be fired and charged with manslaughter. SOPs in factories are in place to make sure workers are protected from bullshit like this happening.

>capitalist economy does not provide efficient use of resources and devalues human life
What community college did you crawl out of?
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Communists are able to correctly identify problems but only propose retarded solutions to them. This isn't a result of capitalism, it's a result of shitty management which certainly existed under communist regimes.
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>>130291416
nothing. enjoy getting your legs blown off in exchange for a small amount of shekels


>>130290786
that's a school uniform you silly degenerate
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>>130286205
That wasn't capitalism. It was carelessness on the part of the workers but this is a bait thread.

Sage
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>>130287321
>can't think of single example where capitalism serves the good

Try telling us this without a computer or a phone.
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>>130291608
If the legal compensation is too small, then the fault is in the judicial system
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>>130291829
judicial systems can be corrupted
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>be underprivleged nigger
>finally get a job at age 35
>die 15 minutes into first shift


Is it any wonder why no one wants to give them jobs? And why is it that dying is the only way blacks can support a fambly?
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>>130291653
>>130291463
>>130291096
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>>130286205
>>130286536
>>130286557
Etc...


You guys must really like the sound of your own voice irl. The first post in this thread should have told this faggot OP to refer to the top reply to the YouTube video. Capitalists do not defend incompetence in the workforce. That is why there are procedures in place to prevent deaths and injuries that would not only cost lives but the company.
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>>130291513
Who decided to make the shift manager the shift manager, did the workers decide this or the capitalist?
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>>130291829
you get what you get. no realistic severance will compensate you for essentially ruining your life. actually it's better to be dead than a cripple
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>>130291891
Yes? it applies to all economic systems
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>There's also another emergency stop button and some platform to keep it from falling. But employees rarely did this for fear of slowing down production.

Yeah right, they were just too lazy to do it every time some bottles broke.
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>>130286205
>working around niggers
>expecting proper safety
Okay
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>>130286205
I know this is bait, but look at the non-existent safety measures in your beloved communist states and the amount of deaths they have caused.
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>>130286920

Just like fire safety can save lives, work safety is the most important part of the job.
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>>130291829
of course it's a finn who gets it. americans never shut up about the fucking pinto and how evil ford is. if it was cheaper to pay the legal fees than to kill drivers, there's a problem in the legal system. i get so tired of hearing clueless burgers defending their shitty bureaucracy, that's done nothing for them, while screeching autistically about the private sector, that has given them everything they have in life.
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>>130292260
corruption can only be done if private property exists
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>>130292138
>Who decided to make the shift manager the shift manager
Left wing diversity hire due to marxist ideology.
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>>130292414
Forgot the best part.
>'hey brutha, clean up below the machine'
>Turns on the machine
WEW
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How Is capitalism at fault for a nig not following procedure and failing to lock-out tag-out a piece of equipment.
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>>130291242

You see, this is what happens when you chase pussy. Then she tricks you into marriage. Now you have to get a job, next thing you know...BAM. Crushed to death.

Pussy kills.
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>>130292418
China reforms to become more capitalist, working conditions deteriorate. Coincidence?
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>>130292008
posting that image unironically just debunked your whole thread, kek. way to go retard.
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>>130286205

dude looked like an incompetent worker anyway, likely to

>sleepy, spaces off at opportune times
>first day at work ever. 30+ yrs old
>temp worker there to pass the hours

literally consumed/crushed by the system
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>>130286205

holy shit it's just like people have choice when it comes to employment as the workers logically will work for a company having high safety standards than a one with low one, further more the consumers can actively discriminate against a company with bad practices opposed to the state owned monopolies that can do whatever they want including dumping their chemical waste in to mounatin lakes and polluting underground waters with the state imprisoning anyone opposing as an economic saboteur

it's just like capitalism is a self regulatory system, compared to gun torturing commies


tl;dr

OP is retarder
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>>130288820
underrated
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>>130292151
So I would presume we're talking about compensations so costly that crippling your workers would be highly undesirable.

>>130292461
I'm not going to get into this The Authoritarian Personality pseudoscience
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>>130292686
Soviet Union becomes socialist/communist, the amount of deaths and their cover ups goes up, conincidence?
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>>130292478
Marxist practice would have the workers choose the shift manager.
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>>130286205
>lockout-tagout

Factory 101.
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>>130292686
>China reforms to become more capitalist, working conditions deteriorate. Coincidence?
Holy shit he believes official statements from Communist Regimes.
This OP needs some psychological help.
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>>130292686
Chernobyl reactor goes off in the ussr due to safety measures failing, thousands of people later die due to poor handling of the situation by the government. Coincidence? Go and bait somewhere else.
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>>130292872
And when the Shift Manager is negligent, how does Marxism deal with that?
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>>130287321
Cheaper to let a few bottles break than to shut down the entire line for days losing sales.
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>>130292686
>China capitalist
you should love china its communistic
>>130292872
>workers having a choice under communism
do you guys know how communism works or is this all b8?
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>>130292746
>people have choice when it comes to employment
lmao, you must be very sheltered
>>130292792
>I'm not going to get into this The Authoritarian Personality pseudoscience
coward
>>130292852
nice source you got there
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>>130292792
>workers

You mean clients. This could easily be you
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>>130292872
Hahahahaha, so they can choose the lazy shit who let's them get away with disobeying company policy, like tockout-tagout. Then one day some black guy wanders under a machine in a bottling plant and gets killed, wait, something about this sounds familiar.

>>130292008
Now, explain to me how posting this pic doesn't ruin your whole thread, commie.
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>>130288940
link some
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>>130289163
Here's the dirty secret. Companies are run for the benefit of management first, not customers, not staff, not even investors. The propaganda that the customer comes first? It's bullshit.

However, communism is worse. Companies are run for the benefit of the Politburo and nobody else. At least management has to give some consideration to their customers and investors. Politburo? Well, screw you all, none of you matter.
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>>130288521
Picture of Day Davis
>Not related

>pic related
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>>130292941
did you even read the picture? It was a quote from a miner.
>>130293044
the problem isn't incompetent shift managers it is that one class has power over the labor and working conditions of another
>>130293085
>you should love china its communistic
lmao
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>>130286205
>>130286920
Letting niggers operate machinery killed this nigga.

Keelt by bacardi... SHEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTT
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>>130293286
>Now, explain to me how posting this pic doesn't ruin your whole thread, commie.
explain how it does
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>>130292138
>>130292872
You're trying to pin the fault of an entire system on one man. So this guy was either a diversity hire or a sandbag that the Union pushed for the spot because he was there at the factory for x ammount of years and always paid his dues. Let's say we somehow make Marxism work with magic, because historically speaking that is the only way we could.

What is preventing the workers from also choosing a complete idiot to fill the role? How does the system deal with him if this same exact situation happens again?
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>>130286205
HUMAN ERROR
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OSHA fines are fucking huge. No corporate CEO in their right mind would willingly place workers at risk without doing everything in their power to prevent accidents. The thing is people are stupid, think they know better, do shit in the wrong way get hurt, then blame the company. Then the Fed comes down on the company, lawsuits start flying and it's basically a shit show.

This isn't the 19th century where the greedy robber baron figures it's cheaper to clean up the blood and find a new worker than invest in a safer working enviroment.
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>>130293106
>nice source you got there
As good as yours.
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>>130286205
>man
no that's just some refurbished outdated farming equipment
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>>130293106
stop being transferring
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>>130293415
Yes I read it. It's fuckin Chinese propaganda man.
I work in Politics, I know how disinformation works.
The miner is what /pol/ would refer to as a Schill.
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>>130288940
You must have not worked for a temp agency.
Many companies will tell you basic safety info (wear PPE, lockout/tagout, ect). Then they show you what to do for about 10 minutes and leave you alone to show the next temp guy what to do.
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>>130293712
holy shit i fucked up that sentence
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>>130289622
>>130289793
>>130290287
Bit much no?
c'mon /pol/ we have more decency than this
You cunts probably some 13 year olds trying to be edgy
This whole board constantly trying to be edgy gets a bit old.
fuck you guys im going /b/ack home and im going to make it great again.
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>>130293415
>It was a quote from a miner.
One quote, from one miner, is supposed to be the tone setter for the attitude of China after the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution? Really?

You'd make a shit historian.
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>>130293510
>You're trying to pin the fault of an entire system on one man. So this guy was either a diversity hire or a sandbag that the Union pushed for the spot because he was there at the factory for x ammount of years and always paid his dues
NICE SOURCE
>What is preventing the workers from also choosing a complete idiot to fill the role?
workers would be looking in their own best interest instead of killing themselves over quarterly profits, if you want a society that prefers quarterly profits to human lives. might as well start the church of the free-market and openly state that everything is to be sacrificed to this merciful entity which decides to bless us with prosperity and when it deprives us it is because we deprive it of sacrifices and we should all take pay cuts and work longer hours until it is happy
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>>130290566
This girl is not white
hurrrrr hurrr hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>muh edgyness
>im so dark
hey i think i realized where all the goths and emos went.
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>>130293635
nice reply you got there
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>>130293838
find a contradictory quote from a worker or miner
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>>130293495
are you a retard? you blame capitalism for something that could happen under any system. it was an accident, you don't think people have accidents under communism? of course they do, to error is human. then you post a picture acknowledging the fallacy in the arguments that attribute phones and computers to capitalism, which is the same fallacy you used in your OP. you contradict yourself every 2 minutes, you need more books and less pot, comrade.
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Most /pol/acks here fail to understand that money = power.

Power should not be concentrated on a small percentage of the population.
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>>130294159
This accident is the kind of accident capitalism is supposed to prevent.

Machine is creating waste, but the market did not fix it and it eventually leads to a loss of human life
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>>130293819
Fuck off straya. The simple fact is that some people deserve to be on the bottom. This muh equality muh safety bullshit is nothing more than an emotional appeal from leftist retards. Companies shouldn't have to coddle dumb niggers at every step in order to do business.
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>>130286205
This was caused by a supervisor who failed to practice basic industrial safety. If you are putting a worker in the vicinity of hazardous equipment the equipment should be tagged out. This type of an injury also happens in communist systems.
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>>130294346
>This accident is the kind of accident capitalism is supposed to prevent.
fucking hell, since when is capitalism supposed to do anything? the idea is liberty, not safety, not comfort, not efficiency, just liberty. looking at it any other way is retarded and goes to show how fucked up your NEET priorities are, kiddo.

and you still haven't proved to me how you didn't derail your own thread, so i'm going to assume you're just too dumb to get it.

more books, less pot.
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>>130286920
>LOCKOUT TAGOUT
Fuck I hate hearing these 2 words together.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>130293955
>workers would be looking in their own best interest instead of killing themselves over quarterly profits, if you want a society that prefers quarterly profits to human lives.
That's not a preventative measure for voting a complete idiot into power, it is not an SOP put in place to keep people in a factory safe. That is ideological dribble. What is exactly their "best interest," and how does that prevent accidents from happening? Lets say the workers do elect a sandbag into place and an accident like this happens, is it the fault of the system or the fault of the individual?

>>130294109
>find a contradictory quote from a worker or miner
Try reading something other than propaganda about people held hostage by their own "liberators."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/16/opinion/16iht-eddikotter16.html
http://www.npr.org/2012/11/11/164801546/recording-the-untold-stories-of-chinas-great-famine
https://prezi.com/y0vhrw3bslyo/the-effects-of-communism-in-china-in-terms-of-mao-zedong-the-great-leap-forward-the-cultural-revolution-and-tiananmen-square/
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>>130295465
Archive the shills

>http://nytimes com/2010/12/16/opinion/16iht-eddikotter16.html
https://archive.is/zgfw
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>>130286205

Human error through and through.

Soviet factories weren't baby-proof either.
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>>130289854
/thread
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>>130287557
so is fucking being crashed to death
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>>130294454
ok mate we get it you're red pilled. now what? what do you personally do with this knowledge? I doubt you're out there pushing the rhetoric, i doubt 99% of people on here are.. So what do we do? Sit around making edgy comments about the senseless death of someone so as to signal to other anons how red pilled we are?
Fuck this thread it makes me sick.
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>>130294310
So you say power should be spread out to everyone too stupid to make a lot of money?
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>>130288820
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>>130296565
Maybe reddit is more suited to your tastes, then
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>>130289163
>comtard
>devalues human life
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>>130296565
what do you do for a living?
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