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Why do Christians think it's cool to destroy nature?

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Bulshit
saint francesco
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is that guy about to split his giant wiener in two?
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THOR BTFO
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>>130281323
>one saint represents the whole of Christendom
Christians on here like to gloat about destroying the Pagan religion, one way was by cutting down their sacred trees. The majority of Christians see nature as an obstacle to tame rather than to live with.
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>>130281178
Because they worship sand niggers?
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>>130281723
That picture activated my almonds
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>>130281723
He might be a jew but he is right. There is nothing divine in nature. Are trees divine? Are rocks? Is dogshit divine? The diference between jews and p*gans is that jews at one point worshipped God. P*gans never did.
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>>130283138
Thank's for proving my point, Christians are utter scum.
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>>130281178

>Christian cuts down tree

Heh. this will teach stupid pagan retards. It's just a tree, stupid idolatry..

>pagans burn down church

WTF savage barbarians! the HOUSE OF GOD is UNTOUCHABLE fucking LARPERS
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>>130284115
>House of God =/= A FUCKING TREE
And you faggots wonder why you lost the war.
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>>130281178
Cause....you know....they found out you autists were killing kids in the name of a fucking tree...
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>>130284209
Nature is above the Christian man and his efforts to bend its will for their desert god.
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>>130284216
So for thousands of years before Christcuckoldry came to Europe, pagans were killing children en masse and nobody did anything about it? Yeah ok...more Christian lies.
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>>130284209
what war? Denmark and the north was never invaded by christcuck faggots.
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>Man eats from the from the fruit of the tree of knowledge
>Gets thrown out of Eden
>Meets niggers, Muslims, & polio
It's revenge against trees.
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>>130284562
Exactly, Christians used lies and deceit to "convert" Europeans, and still do to this very day.
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>>130284209

>Exodus 20:25

And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it.


>Exodus 3:2

And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.

Hypocrite..
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>>130284613
>blaming the tree and not the snake
Christian intelligence everybody.
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>>130284515
Well it is true...The story was that the tree was Thors and so a sacrafice had to be made to ensure a strong harvest...
Do you know what pagans did before science came along?
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>>130284771
nah Danes converted over a long period of a couple of hundred of years because of political reasons, cultural and trade.
Danes were in awe at what wonders the civilized world could achieve and we tried to copy them. Including their religion. That is also the reason why we have weird traditions in Denmark that we call "christian" even though they have no place in Christianity.
As for trade it made it easier to deal with those we wanted to buy from and sell to.
The political reasons was mostly about diplomacy and a growing fear of invasion. Denmark even built a war to keep the German Christians out.
Over the hundreds of years all this resulted in Denmark becoming Christian. We were never very pious and we never built any great works to appease god. We were also low key followers that still did pegan stuff and just called it otherwise.
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>>130284845
>snake
>implying it wasn't just a sneaky tree branch
Somebody fell for the serpent meme. Keep jewing for your woodbros, faggot.
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>>130284998
They weren't killing kids you moron. Also, Christianity is completely anti science. They thought cleaning water with copper was witchcraft and banned it.
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>>130285145
Can't tell if you're joking or being serious, either way it made me chuckle.
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>>130281178
its natural for blacks to destroy my wife's anus, its the wisdom of jesus, thank you lawd
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>>130283138
>There is nothing divine in nature

Fucking disgusting. You are a bugman
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>>130285569
What a sick perverse cult Christianity is.
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Pagans were just a 40 minute jam band solo away from being deadheads.

Taking shrooms and spinning around trees. Shit they probably had drum circles.
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>>130283138
>he believes jews used to be good

How naive of you
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>>130285939

You follow the ethno-religious tradition of the Jews and mock your own ethno-religious tradition.

You're hopeless.
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>>130286005
>who is Abraham
>who is Moses
>who is king David
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>>130281178
Because they don't believe in reincarnation.
What do they care if they destroy the world?
As long as they're good boys they spend eternity in heaven.
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>>130286152
All non-European Semites.
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>>130281178
God gave man dominion over nature dumbass. We don't worship it. I bet many trees gave their life for the house you are sitting in. Also, as pagans like to point out, christmas trees are pagan, so pagan tradition is responsible for the genocide of hundreds of millions of pine trees every christmas. These are the pagans that call christians pacifist and they are afraid to cut down trees.
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>>130286337
You are not destroying nature by chopping down a tree if you let a new one grow.
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>>130284613
Adam and Eve never existed
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>>130286152

>King David
>Righteous

Someone hasn't read their bible..
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>>130283138
What a disgusting waste of being you are
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>>130286040

>implying I follow anything.

Enjoy your stick huts, and rock worship abbo.
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>>130286337

The trees themselves aren't worshipped, idiot. Groves were consecrated as a place for the divine presence to dwell in.

Have you ever been out in the wilderness? I know that even when I was a Christian I felt the spirit of the divine far more powerfully when I was among the trees than when I was in a church.
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>>130286521
He's a Polish Catholic, historically they are illiterate when it come to the bible. They had their local priest dictate it to them. I say this as someone who was raised a Catholic.
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>>130286868
>nature can't inspire you in a divine way
>nothing is sacred lmao
Talking like a true pleb
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>>130286868
If you worship blood and kinship then you are essentially pagan.
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>>130286980

That's what so many Christians forget.. Their ancestors were literally handed two options. Christianity or death.

Culturally they were pagan until the "enlightenment" where Europeans FINALLY studied the bible and when they did, they slowly chipped away at it's authority using their intellect until nothing remained of the religion except the virtue signalling cult we have in this day.

Catholics hate protestants because they know that the study of the bible leads to a toxic culture of nihilism and Judaic thought
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>>130286337
he gets it
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>>130287003

Can nature inspire you to do something? Sure.

Should you give veneration to a pile of rocks? No.
Should you accept that thunder is a god working a hammer, and lightning is their wrath? No.

Christianity might be Jewish tricks but at least it removed the veil of ignorance of multiple gods, and rock worship.

A stepping stone to better understanding, and contemplation.
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>>130286337

> God gave us dominion over nature

> Hurricanes, Typhoons, Drought, Famine, Disease adn a number of other natural disasters still kicking our asses in 2017

> All these things are getting worse over time

> Climate changes that are based on either human activity or sun cycles

Seems like Yahweh may have been bullshitting you son...
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>>130286327
>MUUUUH SKIN
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>>130281178
We are nature.

Why are you cool with bees and ants destroying nature, but not humans?
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>>130287619
But anon, European Paganism isn't rock worship. The gods don't live in the idols and statues any more than Jesus lives in a crucifix. Surely you know this, right? I mean you HAVE read the Edda, and the works of Hesiod, and of Homer, right? You ARE aware that the Laws of Numa originally made it a punishable crime to depict the gods in any manner so as to prevent people from spewing the utter garbage you're saying, right?
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>>130287808

>believes race is skin deep
>follows a religion built on the premise that one race has inherent divinity by birth

You are a walking contradiction.
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>>130287964
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>>130287808
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>>130288091
Christcucks everyone.
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>>130288000

>Christians
>Reading the stuff they want to demonize or defend
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>>130288091
All obvious photoshops Pshek, you can stop trying anytime now
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>>130281178
Not all christians.

I don't care anymore about labels, I care about acts.

If a christian thinks its ok to destroy nature then he is an enemy and the same is true for a pagan, a budhitst or whatever. Fuck them all.
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>>130281178
Nature is intended to be destroyed, that's the part that makes it natural. And in turn, it rebuilds itself, you fucking tree-hugging, cocksucking yuppie bastard.
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>>130287808
>>130287842
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>>130288091
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>>130288546

Queen of Spades:
The playing cards symbol usually with a 'Q' above or inside. It connotes white women with a sexual preference for black men. It can be seen on tee shirts or even as a tatoo. Also a way for a white woman to let potential black lovers know she is available.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Queen%20of%20Spades

"Christians", everyone..
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>>130281178
Because it is. Nature sucks and we are under no obligation to submit to it.

>>130281628
Yes, because that's exactly what it is. Nature is not sacred, it exists for mankind to use to fulfill his divine purpose. All other things are irrelevant.
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>>130288695
>worships his own skin
>his women prefer blacks anyway
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>>130288850

>ur women prefer black men because I photo shopped 100 pictures

You're just a sad little man. You're probably Jewish. I refuse to believe that any white Christian is this retarded or contradictory.
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>>130288753

What do you believe is mankind's divine purpose?
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>>130284771
ah, the
>i reject the Bible but you should adhere to my interpretation of it
argument
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>>130281178
Get out more.
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>>130288753
>submit
You can't submit to something you are a part of, anon. We're part of the system, we're may be smart enough to realize that.

Herodotus talks about "Persian versus Greek" thinking. The Persian Zoroastrians thought that they were the pinnacle of creation and that everything was made for them, that everything that didn't make sense to them or seemed inconsequential was. The Persians believed that humanity was ultimately foreign and alien to the world and that we were just spectres floating through it. This was compared against the Greeks, who realized that they were just as much a part of the universe as anything else and that it affects us just as much as we affect it. That just because we don't understand something or it seems inconsequential to us does not mean that it does not have some meaning or reason or mechanism behind it.
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How can you build an arch without wood ?
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>>130281178
> what is "taming nature"
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>>130289476

If someone wants to argue on the ground of their own faith I am more than happy to use their own scripture to prove a point.

He believes that Pagans are stupid for believing that the spirit of a god can reside in a tree but the same thing happens in the bible. If you think this isn't a valid point then you are pretty dumb.
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>>130281178
Get a life
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>>130288695
Obvious photo shops you mong
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>>130281178
>implying environmentalists aren't just Calvinists sans Jesus

Sage
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>>130288850
>can't win an argument
>proceeds to post shitty shoops
What a sad creature you are. I remember you from a pagan thread where you shitposted with retarded bait pics you made yourself. You actually took time to make this shit?
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>>130281178
Lack of bonding by not having sex with it
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>>130286337
Christmas trees are literally grown to be chopped down, they're not taking them from forests.
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>>130288850
Are you black? Or a Jew?
You know that the propaganda images you posted are photoshopped right?

Are you pretending to be Christian, just to shit on Christianity? That would make more sense than a legit Polish Christian shitposting with degenerate and pornographic images.
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>>130281178
Because rather astoundingly,they believe their god can reboot in 6 days.
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>>130281178
Why does pagan thinks it's cool to destroy books?
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>>130290963
So Catholics are pagans. They were mad because one of our protestants started to translate bible into Slovene so they just burned it all
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>>130291652

Nothing was more dangerous to the Catholic church than their followers having the source material. As soon as that happened, their control was taken from them.

This is exactly why in Judaism everyone has access to the written torah but only "rabbis" have access to the oral Torah and kaballah which gives them another layer of control.

With the bible, no one needs a priest unless that priest is has esoteric knowledge that his followers need him for. This is why I believe the Catholic church delved into Demonology and the occult in the 17th century.
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Start growing your own food
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>>130292005
>in the 17th century
LOL. You're 1,000 years off there.
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>>130290455
Literally non arguments.
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>>130286337
>thinking you have dominion over nature
Topkek faagit
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>>130293137
He's probably the same kind of retard that think's sunscreen is gay and that he won't burn in 30°C heat.
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>>130292380
>>130292868
>>130293137


"Although movable type, as well as paper, first appeared in China, it was in Europe that printing first became mechanized. The earliest mention of a printing press is in a lawsuit in Strasbourg in 1439 revealing construction of a press for Johannes Gutenberg and his associates. (Scant evidence exists to support claims of Laurens Janszoon Coster as the inventor of printing.) The invention of the printing press itself obviously owed much to the medieval paper press, in turn modeled after the ancient wine-and-olive press of the Mediterranean area. A long handle was used to turn a heavy wooden screw, exerting downward pressure against the paper, which was laid over the type mounted on a wooden platen. In its essentials, the wooden press reigned supreme for more than 300 years, with a hardly varying rate of 250 sheets per hour printed on one side."
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>>130293084
The Catholic church delved balls deep into occultism very early on. Priests were the only who had access to old manuscripts and who could even read them.

So they murdered the Pagans for witchcraft and then used said witchcraft to maintain power.
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>>130281178
nature is created by God to serve people
not people to serve nature
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>>130293967
wrong

you dont pass the history class

next
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>>130281178
need to teach tree-worshipers a lesson
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>>130286337
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>>130294311
Wow no wonder the world is fucked. With entitled cunts like you thinking that you can do what you want with nature because some shit flinging desert dweller believed he was told so by God. Christians really are just another enemy of Europe.
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>>130281628
>one saint represents the whole of Christendom
But that's how you started the thread you fucking retarded faggot
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>>130281628
>he said, posting on a laptop, his fat, doritos crusted fingers feeling cool under the AC
Pagans love nature til theres a power outage
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>>130294861
Get off the web and go live innawoods faggot
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>>130294974
Look at the responses of the Christians in this thread before you start talking horseshit.
>>130283138
>>130286337
>>130288753
>>130294695
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>>130281178
Garden the world.
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>>130294861
calm down
you green fagget
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>>130295202
>>130295279
Projections and non arguments, you guys are shit at debating, no wonder you're Christians.
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>>130283849
European Christians defeated the pagans fairly easily, but the Arabs were harder to beat. Explain that.
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>>130295725
Explain what? Are you arguing the case for Arab supremacy or something, because that isn't what this discussion is about. I was responding to his shitpost with a shitpost. People only deserve dignified responses when they actually use proper arguments.
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Knowledge bump

"Which saint had hundreds of concubines, multiple wives from around the world, so many children that everyone lost count, and an army of pagans? St Vladimir of Kiev did! Vladimir was the grand prince of Kiev, who converted to Christianity in 988, but before his conversion he was a pretty mean (not to mention profligate) guy. From the start of his reign in 980, he conquered lands, slaughtered people, had children and generally partied hard. On a few occasions he, being a good Pagan, took part in human sacrifices:

“In 983, after another of his military successes, Prince Vladimir and his army thought it necessary to sacrifice human lives to the gods. A lot was cast and it fell on a youth, Ioann by name, the son of a Christian, Fyodor. His father stood firmly against his son being sacrificed to the idols. More than that, he tried to show the pagans the futility of their faith: ‘Your gods are just plain wood: it is here now but it may rot into oblivion tomorrow; your gods neither eat, nor drink, nor talk and are made by human hand from wood; whereas there is only one God — He is worshiped by Greeks and He created heaven and earth; and your gods? They have created nothing, for they have been created themselves; never will I give my son to the devils!’”

Interestingly, it was this speech which caused Vladimir to ponder over the next few years as to whether he ought to convert to Christianity, which he ultimately did. He ruled so kindly after his conversion that he became known as Vladimir the Great – a far cry from his previous life"
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>>130286040
>He said, whilst posting under the flag which destroyed Europe in 4 years and demonised any anti immigration movements for the next 80 years
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>>130281178
They don't, it's quite the reverse.
Google Saint Francis of Assisi. Christianity teaches to love nature, God's creation.
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>>130296103
>Explain what? Are you arguing the case for Arab supremacy or something
I'm saying that the pagans you are defending were weak. Wild nature will lose to civilization. The important part is to prevent civilization from devouring itself, and to have it garden the world. As was our first imperative.
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>>130281178
Canticle of the Sun
http://www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?p=183
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>>130283138
Your fellow Christians say otherwise.
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>naturefags defending unfit nature
Where is the line between man and nature? It is in your memes. You don't give a fuck about nature, you care about aesthetics.
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>>130297564
Anti-Christian!
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>>130297279
>Wild nature will lose to civilization
>He unironically believes this
Nature will kill us off with a mass plague if we carry on destroying Earth, it's scary knowing that there are so many deluded fucktards like you out there.
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>>130297829
Human hives are a part of the nature.
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>>130286521
As it is written there is none righteous, no not one. Read your bible.
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>>130297678
No I'd say they are closer to being true Christians than the "nature loving" saint. They don't call Catholics heretics for nothing.
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>>130297898
Humans are not supposed to live in such close proximity to each other on a mass scale. That is why plagues occurred in the past. Yes we have managed to keep it at bay up until recently with antibiotics and other modern medicine, but diseases evolve and soon we will have superbugs which will kill off huge swathes of the global population. It's natures way of balancing the books after years of mistreatment.
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>>130297993
All of Creation yearns for the Lord. We are meant to study and garden the world.
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>>130298268
>Humans are not supposed to live in such close proximity to each other on a mass scale
I agree, but where on Earth did you get the imperative from?
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>>130281178
Have you ever destroyed a nature?
there's nothing like good tree genocide.
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>>130298405
It's just common sense coupled with some understanding of biology. You do you know that superbugs are already becoming an issue right? A woman in India died from a bacterial infection that couldn't be killed by any antibiotic.
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>>130297564
I am a Catholic, and a Saint Francis admirer. I am not aware of a current inside Catholicism that would despise nature and/or teach to destroy it.
I should mention, too, that I don't think nature and technology are incompatible (by nature I mean the diversity of life forms, and environments).
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>>130287808
kys fag
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>>130298790
In fact I'm quite surprised that some Christian traditions (Protestantism? Probably not Orthodoxy?) would despise the natural world, but feel free to enlighten me as to their beliefs. I'm curious now.
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>>130287731
>implying we won't build giant orbital electromagnets to control the weather
>implying we won't build a harvesting ring around the sun in 2600 AD
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>>130281723
That image is interesting, and it reminds me of a recent phenomenon in the Catholic Church. Basically the Church has been unable to theologically justify environmentalism until very recently, under Francis, who published a few things regarding keeping God's green Earth and shit and some really, really shaky and nearly irrelevant theological support for environmentalism. I mean I guess it's better than nothing but it always seems like Abrahamics are at odds with nature.

It all really makes me wonder why it is so absurdly difficult for Abrahamics to find theological support for an assertion as simple as "trees are good" even though it is exceedingly evident that they are, in reality, good for the air, the soil, the ecosystem and the Earth in general. One thing that really prevented me from entering into the Christian faith was its total blind hatred towards nature. Abrahamic religions are the only ones that seem to utterly despise nature for some reason, and it is extremely difficult for a person with a great respect for nature to enter into a religion like that. I guess that pic makes it more evident why they hate nature, it is because they love laws and order and nature is disorderly, but the ironic thing is that the disorder of nature ultimately brought rise to the order they espouse, through evolution, which most Christians take as fact.

Anyone who can look at something like an ant colony and suggest it is totally disorderly and evil must have some kind of brain disease, nature can evidently give rise to great stability and order, the Earth and its ecosystems themselves are orderly systems. I think there must be something besides a love of law and order in nature that drives Abrahamics mad, it is something that neither we nor they can seem to describe.
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>>130298770
>It's just common sense coupled with some understanding of biology
Nope. You were referring to a metaphysical imperative (there are no others).
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>>130294861
>24 posts by this ID
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>>130281178
>thinking you can harm nature
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>>130299039
Catholicism is closer to Paganism than Protestantism, that is probably why Catholic countries are less Nihilistic self hating shitholes compared to Protestant ones.
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>>130299259
>Basically the Church has been unable to theologically justify environmentalism until very recently
Read Genesis.
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>>130299434
>A fucking leaf
See how easy it is to make non arguments
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>>130281178
how will pagans ever recover
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>>130299111

>implying we won't build giant orbital electromagnets to control the weather

That's not how ecosystems work son
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Semitic religions think that nature is of no value. Probably because the shit-tier deserts they wandered out of have nothing but ugly sand dunes.

Meanwhile, Europeans come from a place with some of the richest, most beautiful, most striking natural environments on the planet. Thus pagan religions were all about earth worship. European society has always been deeply connected to the land. Notice how Islam and Judaism have ruthlessly cruel treatment of animals, something any white person would find completely barbaric.

Middle Easterners evolved as herdsmen, Europeans evolved as farmers. This is why Europeans are so rooted to the land, and why arabs and jews are wanderers. This is where the stereotype of the "wandering jew" comes from, someone who feels at home everywhere and nowhere. Freely wandering from place to place with no connection to a homeland
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>>130299461
It certainly is. There are parts of my country where, until very recently, some ancient traditions subsisted mixed with a deep catholic faith.
Monasticism (Carthusians) and orders like the Franciscans have contributed to the view that nature is an a place of spirituality and reflexion.
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>>130300104
>Semitic religions think that nature is of no value.
Read Genesis.
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>>130299307
I get it from my own understanding of nature. It's no different to how Christians came to their understanding of this world, and even in that, they are not unified. Look how many denominations there are in the Church because people have different interpretations of a book.
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>>130281178
Because counter-paganism.
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>>130300104
>Probably because the shit-tier deserts they wandered out of have nothing but ugly sand dunes.
Guess I should have read the rest of your post. The Middle-East, Italy, Egypt, Anatolia, North Africa and Greece used to be lush with forests.
Human civilizations lived the cycle of rodents. Grow, overpopulate, die, repeat. This is until gardening became prevalent. Sometimes outsiders destroyed the gardening systems (Germans in Rome, everybody in Babylon, Mongols in Baghdad...).
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>>130300245
>I get it from my own understanding of nature.
Hume had a guillotine for those.
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>>130300522
You're clearly just a mindless sheep that needs to be told what to think and believe in, the ideal Christian really.
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>>130299439
yes actually you can
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>>130299439
That shit looks fake as fuck
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>>130300736
that is nothing but a nuisance to humans
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>>130281349
Greatly underrated.
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>>130283138
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>>130281178
Man should worship creator not creation. Nature worship has no place in the hearts of men. Atheists do the same thing that they pagans do, they worship that which their eyes can see, but they're unable to see the brush strokes left behind by God.

Men always want a thing to worship, if they are atheist or Pagan, they will find something to worship. But God who hides himself can only be found by those that truly want to find him. Nature worship is a distraction from that quest.
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>>130289730

Nature is inseparable from God, as God is all things.
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>>130301427
Why does this kind of shit seem so cringy to me?
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>>130288753
>Nature is not sacred, it exists for mankind to use to fulfill his divine purpose.

Putting the cart before the horse.
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>>130301680

Is God not all things?
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>>130301781
No.
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>>130302000

Oh, I see, I must be thinking of some other God.
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>>130301781
What kind of statement is that? Who cares?

We're talking about how Christians seem to have no problem slabbing over natural wonders with concrete in order to build shopping malls and industrial farming operations. Maybe preserving a few species in a zoo or something. The Christian right in America has been totally led into this anti-nature shit that is completely cancerous.

Obviously we need to take steps to preserve unique natural environments and our homeland. Hitler used to talk about this all the time.
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>>130302108

One day all of our eyes will be open.
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>>130288753
The only thing Abrahamism seems to get right is that men are totally consumed by their own ego and pride. Nature created man, man is subservient to nature, try to stop a hurricane or an earthquake or a tsunami (or pray for it to stop, considering you're a Christian) next time and see how powerless man (and Yahweh) really is. The most man can do is keep nature at bay, but at the slightest hesitation it overcomes all we accomplish and everything returns to the jungle.
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>>130281628
>one saint represents the whole of Christendom
really, because thats the exact same strawman you're using right now cherry picking one saint.

here's something to consider

9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.

for about 400 years the Jews who kept the serpent of brass worshiped it like an Idol, and it was destroyed. even something considered to be a holy relic by the Torah was destroyed because it became an Idol.

worshiping material things is satanic.

god is within the self.
the kingdom of heaven is within yourself


>>130287353
you have to be among the stupidest people to have ever existed.
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>>130302514
Kill all the Tigers, you'll have to wait another 50 million years for more to evolve. Who has that kind of time?
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>>130302514
>Nature created man, man is subservient to nature,

no, mankind did not come from the animal kingdom, nor did mankind from the material realm. Mankind is a direct and deliberate creation of the divine realms and we have authority over the material

> try to stop a hurricane or an earthquake or a tsunami (or pray for it to stop, considering you're a Christian) next time and see how powerless man (and Yahweh) really is

so in the bible Jesus teaches you that you can move mountains with your faith in God.

in hinduism, Krishna protects his family from a storm caused by Indra by putting a mountain on his finger tip and blocking the storm, by using his faith in God.


quite frankly you will never have any idea how powerful prayer, fasting, and meditation are, and have no idea how many jew memes you're still consuming.
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>>130302108
>We're talking about how Christians seem to have no problem slabbing over natural wonders with concrete in order to build shopping malls and industrial farming operations.
Christians build Cathedrals. You're talking human waste.
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>>130303023
>mankind did not come from the animal kingdom
Fundamentalist Christians, everyone.
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>>130281723
John the baptist lived in the wild and ate Honey and Locusts, and he did it for his entire life.

can any of you LARPers do that?
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>>130303413
>fundamentalist
wrong, I'm gnostic.
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>>130303461
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>>130303572
God, its like Leonardo painted this for that exact post.
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>>130303529
You're still a fucking idiot though.
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>>130303819
yes, I know, those who confess themselves to be idiots are the wisest, those who confess themselves to be wise are fools.

True Knowledge comes in knowing you know nothing, and quite frankly you're about as dumb as they come because you know so much.
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>>130281723

You worship literal cuckold Gods, read Nordic pagan literature.
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>>130281178

and burn people in fires, and generally to torture them in all manner or perverted ways.
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>>130304080
yes, the catholic church had a habit of doing this to people, they especially did it for people who did this thing called "read the bible" along with burning old and new testaments, reading or having these things was heresy, and punishable by a sick and twisted death. whats your point?

whats your point?
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>>130303949
>Unironically paraphasing a pagan
Top kek
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>>130283138
If there's nothing Divine in nature maybe you should retreat to wherever your Divinity is...
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>>130304252
he actually denied the existence of Gods at his death trial. you fucking idiot.
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>>130304063
>pagan literature

Lel pagans didnt write/read. The traditions and folktales were passed down through talking.
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>>130284515
We should unite what is the best between thoses religions unstead of play the game of the jews(divide to conquer).I m pagano-Christian.
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>>130304080
A lot of those torture devices are Victorian copies.

The Victorians had this huge hardon for medieval torture, fabricating myths like the Iron Maiden and others.

Generally, real torture devices wouldn't have, say, a giant cross on them, or made of rolled steel sheets and have machined screws.
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>>130303066
Yes but I'm talking about American Christianity fueled by talk radio

It's downright anti-environment. Pave over everything if it boosts the local economy by 1%
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>>130304234

That Christianity is an ideological weapon used to exterminate undesirables within societies.
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>>130304482
Heimskringla anyone? Norse sagas?
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>>130304080
implying the plebs without religions never tortures or doing anything bad..?the church have converted not killing.
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>>130304234
less people died in the Spanish Inquisition than are shot in Chicago every year
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Knowledge bump part due.

"Everyone one of you reading this list (well almost everyone) is influenced every day by Pope Gregory XIII. It is his calendar that we have used since he issued his papal bull “Inter gravissimas” of 24 February 1582, stating that the day after Thursday, 4 October 1582 would be not Friday, 5 October, but Friday, 15 October 1582. The reason for his reform of the calendar was that the Julian calendar (in use since Roman times) had years which were too long; it shows the year as being 365 days, 6 hours in length – 11 minutes more than in reality. There was resistance to the change as some people worried that it would result in a loss of seven days of pay but ultimately it became the standard calendar of Europe and much of the world. In addition to this big change, Pope Gregory XIII also influenced the development of the arts and sciences through papal grants and support."
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>>130284998
>>130285229
I don't know about human sacrifice in the Nordic tribes, but celtic people used to offer in sacrifice criminals and faggots.
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>>130304428
Sorry, I thought you were the one claiming to be the unknowing idiot, is it my turn now? Do you know what pagan even means? Look it up you fool.
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>>130285229
>They weren't killing kids you moron
They were though
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>>130304558
so H-bomb is better less suffering?thoses bad ancestors so destructive!
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>>130281178
This isn't an exclusively Christian thing.
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>>130304686
>falling this hard for jew memes
catholicism is not christianity, its a luciferian counterfeit.

the germanics that sacked romes, the Visigoths, were Arian Christians (a denomination from 250AD) the germans that sacked rome weren't pagans (they technically were, because Pagan is a word akin to "someone who loves in the country/wilderness) they were baptized Christians, led by a Christian King Alaric. pretty much most of the germanic peoples were baptized christians by the 5th century.

Christianity is pretty much the ultimate redpill, the bible in itself is the word of God because it literally writes history before it happens.

the catholic church burned people alive for reading the bible, the inquisition was a brutal persecution of Christians, and in itself is a political system pushing for world domination, not a religious system.

Christianity in itself is a human sacrifice dedicated to man, that comes from God.

the soul has a monotheistic creator.
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>>130304762
Nice reading, btw.
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>>130305034
well, i explained it in this post >>130305166

I know what you think it means, and you're dramatically an idiot.
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>>130304925
exactly,thoses who cry the deads 300years ago laugh at deads now ...hypocryte!
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>>130283849
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>>130305166
>Christianity is the ultimate redpill
>modern Christians think nonviolence is the way to go
What happened to the crusaders of the old days? Why are Christians so fucking weak and disgusting?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw2GiQ8vsrs
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>>130305021
I didn't say human sacrifice wasn't a thing, but to suggest they were killing children is absurd. Christians really think that until man was blessed with the bible, humans had no moral conscience.
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Knowledge bump final part: Vth century edition.


"People’s appearances will change, and it will be impossible to distinguish men from women due to their shamelessness in dress and style of hair. […] At that time the morals and traditions of Christians and of the Church will change. People will abandon modesty, and dissipation will reign. Falsehood and greed will attain great proportions, and woe to those who pile up treasures. Lust, adultery, homosexuality, secret deeds and murder will rule in society."
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>>130289730
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Not just Christians, majority of modern people, sadly.
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>>130305248
So you read minds now? Teach me please. What do I think it means?
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/pagan
It doesn't state specifically that you have to believe in "the gods" as you put it, to be pagan.
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YHWH's just a bitchy blood god, you know that right?
Even on the level of blood gods he's meh.
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>>130305364
the catholic church invented Islam, the crusaders were largely a conspiracy to put jerusalem under roman catholic control.

there's also the fact the eastern leg of rome, The Byzantine Empire, who were Christians (Constantinople was the Christian Capital of the world) stood against the atrocities of Islam for nearly a thousand years, and stood for well over a thousand years longer than the western leg of Rome did, and receive 0 historical recognition for it.

the Western Latin leg of Rome was destroyed by Christians the catholic church deemed heretics, (Constantine is a heretic by their own logic for being Arian)
the Eastern leg of Rome was Christian, but was eventually sacked by the western legs creation of Islam.
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>>130305166
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>>130305832
>pagans never fight
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>>130305922
For religious purposes? Show me an example
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>>130305922
Pre Christian Europeans did not fight over religion. Their gods were the same, just with variations on the names.
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>>130306012
Fighting for religious reasons is cucked. You should fight for political reasons
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>>130306149
>Fighting for religious reasons is cucked
Welcome to Europe, where one kills his brother because he interpreted the same book slightly differently
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>>130281178
I love bushcraft.
I literally chop down as many saplings as I feel like when out in the woods.
Mad recyclefag OP??
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>>130305644
well, your Europa is filled with lots of infighting. you seem to tragically neglect the fact the Germanics conquered the Romans. Rome in itself was degenerate and homosexual.

and you forget that even before christianity started these groups were constantly fighting within themselves.

you completely ignored geographical and cultural history, and made a fallacious meme due to the fact you can't deal with, nor understood christianity united all the goths into a strong germanic empire.
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>>130281178
>be nomad jew
>live in a desert
>your tribe is the center of your world and everything else is cattle/trash
>have a theology which says nature is fallen and was made for men to dominate
>stop giving a fuck about nature as your cult spreads

simple
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>>130306277
it's cucked because the religious logic is just politically motivated anyway. People are using the religion as a tactic to recruit soldiers and build war fever.

Instead of fighting for god, you should fight for your people. Your religious beliefs are just one aspect of your cultural upbringing
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>>130281723
oh you stupid fag you, ya could be shilling harder than that
>jews HATE him
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>>130306055
>Pre Christian Europeans did not fight over religion.
>Romans never persecuted anyone because of religion

pretty much only the Roman Catholic Church, which is a ROMAN politcal system, Jews, and Islam have fought over religion. the 30 year war was a revolt against Roman control over the bible.
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>>130281178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKiG2cXxAWc

PAGANS BTFO
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>>130306332
Show me an example where pre Christian Europeans fought on the basis on religion.
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>>130306012
show me an example where a Protestant, an Evangelical, a Baptist, a Pentecostal, and a Methodist ever fought.
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>>130281178
STRIKE THE EARTH!
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>>130306556
Roman Catholics are still Christian retard, whether you like it or not.
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>>130299439
He is talking about the fauna and flora. All major disasters are are consider "acts of God".
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>>130306752
Protestants fought the Catholics in reformation wars
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>>130306702
>>130306752
Show me an example.
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>>130307098
You argue over scripture, that's why there are millions of denominations within Protestantism. If that's not division then I don't know what is.
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>>130306702
I'll do you one better, I'll show you an example where Europeans stopped infighting because of religion

They stopped infighting because of Christianity you inbred moron. they were never united, and were constantly at war with each other until Christ died on the cross.

it quite frankly doesn't matter what they were fighting about though, it was mostly over land, food, water, women, and resources.

you wouldn't have Gothic Culture or Europe without Christianity.

the Dark ages? that was caused by Islam.
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>>130306012
Asatru justified and perpetuated war on religious grounds.

Aztec Flower Wars

Almost all Egyptian wars, due to their leader being the head of the religion.

Hellenistic have stories of their violence against followers of other gods. Ala the beheading of Orpheus.
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If the Christian god gifted domain over the Earth to his followers doesn't that seem like a built in reason to preserve and take care of the Earth?

I mean, your god literally gave you this, it's his gift, you'd better take care of it you ingrates.
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>>130307456
this is the most retarded post I've seen in days, gj burgerbro
idk where to start
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>>130281178
"Fallen world" argument.
"We live in a fallen world"
God never said "I declare this world officially fallen."
He said the land would be hard to sew... that's it!
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>>130307689
No, if he gave mankind the gift, then, clearly, it is mankind's to use in any way he sees fit. You sound like an atheist.

I bet you're an atheist.

Fucking kill yourself you fedora-wearing atheist and stop telling me not to bulldoze 30 acres of marshland to build my megachurch and all-you-can-eat buffet.
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>>130307673
>Aztec Flower Wars
The Flower wars were not religious. They were a method of population control slash source of protein.
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>>130306958
Catholics aren't Christian, and I addressed that. the catholic church had a nasty habit of killing people who would read the bible. the Catholic Church is not christian, but a roman political system.

>>130307417
>people who believe in One God, and the Son of god are divided
>arguing over scripture is the same thing as killing someone for their land and wife
wew lad, you got some muslim ideology, dont you.

lets put it this way, christians argue over scripture and don't kill eachother. Christians go to war with catholics because they kill anyone who reads scripture. muslims kill eachother over an apostolic succession.

Europeans? they killed eachother for resources before christianity put a stop to that.

Germanics? they went war against Rome over oppression and conquest over their lands.
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>>130307941
Flower wars WERE religious. They were carried out to secure sacrifices for the gods and the warriors participating understood it as such; it was the priesthood and ruling elites that understood that its REAL purpose was making sure rival states had a deficit of strong warriors and were kept in line.
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>>130307941
They did it on religious grounds. Population control was literally never part of their intent.
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>>130307952
Christianity never stoped Euro massacres, not by any stretch.
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>>130308235
Are you retarded?
The warriors knew what was up. They knew they were fighting to literally feed their families.
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>>130307696
>not understanding anything about the Visigoths and Ostrogoths, and how they largely fell to Islam
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>>130308389
Population control was a major part of their intent. I'm not sure how you can't see that.
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>>130281723
Interesting read it wouldn't surprise me if jews wanted whites to stay away from there traditions. They hate paganism the most so much so they try to obfuscate any knowledge we try to get by creating garbage fiction yet they leave Christianity alone outside of a few jokes they make.

>>130306490
>>130304063
insanity.
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>>130308500
"Fighting to feed my family" and "fighting to accrue status and notoriety in the eyes of the Gods and my king," yes. They did not see nor did they give two flying fucks about the bigger picture, but the priesthood and more sensible nobility did. That's why they rigged shit so that warriors would have to fight in flower wars.
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>>130289250
Its JIDF they are scared of the pagan revival.
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>>130281178
Yeshua Ben YHWH is going to trash it anyway.
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>>130283476
>>130283849
>>130305362

more of these
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>>130307696
Dark ages started before Islam existed retard
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>>130308395
Christianity is what united the Goths into destroying the Roman Empire.

the Romans largely the ones behind the Euro massacres, and yes, it stopped it by very large streches.
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>>130309041
>They did not see nor did they give two flying fucks about the bigger picture
They certainly did. Warriors earned the unlocking of knowledge, and the Priests would facilitate that in any manner possible.
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All LARPagans are Leftist globalists.

Varg is their king:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpsBojQ7HAk
>ethnonationalism doesn't exist, and it was created by thos fucking christians
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>>130309602
Eternal reminder.
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>>130309602
>>130309658
>>130309699
Always the same fucking faggot posting in these threads. ALWAYS.
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>>130309837
Cool that you'd post a communist fedora tipper lol
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>>130309857
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>>130309281
Unless you have a statue of your town inquisitor as your town founder, you probably don't understand what I'm talking about.
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>>130309875
Go back to your dead board on cripplechan and cry your heart out, nigger.
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Why is everyone ashamed of being an atheist all of a sudden?
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>>130309939
Go back to your "holy land" in the desert and cry your heart out, kike.
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>>130309939
You know you are a cripplechan user faggot. I've never use cripplechan ever.
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>>130309956
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>>130310027
You forgot "We created Christkikenity".
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>>130310034
>>130310050
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>>130310069
http://biblehub.com/luke/3-33.htm
>the son of Amminadab, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah

http://biblehub.com/hebrews/7-14.htm
>For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah

http://biblehub.com/luke/4-15.htm
>He was teaching in their synagogues, and everyone praised him.
http://biblehub.com/john/1-11.htm
>He came to his own people, and even they rejected him.

His own people aka Jews.

http://biblehub.com/john/4-22.htm
>You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.

Samaritans aka Gentiles.

JESUS WAS A JEW.
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>>130310187
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>>130310027

What if we are all The Jew?
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>>130310348
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>>130310379
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>/po/ is just reposting image macros now
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>>130310409
>>130310453
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>>130310297
>believing that the Son of God looked like an average middle-easterner

pagan/atheist stupidity

this "research" was funded by Jews btw
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>>130310492
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>>130309658
>Muslim sample size too small

comfy
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>>130310549
>all pagans were nordic
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>>130310532
Go cry on your Discord and plot to overthrow muh christcucks, lad. I'll await your return with my jar of your tears. Try not to suck up too much of each others' semen.
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>>130310713
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>>130310713
Can you tell me who has written this book? Just his surname...
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>>130310713
>plot to overthrow muh christcucks
I don't need to do anything Christianity.
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>>130310646
>israeli flag
>bible

this makes no sense you goddamn idiot
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>>130310824
Your dad.
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>>130310880
You cry and bitch every day. All 10 of you in the whole world.
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>>130310903
Christians are spiritual jews whom support Jizzrael.
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>>130310903
It makes sence, because christkikenity is Jewish.
>>130310921
Your idol
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>>130310994
cry more christcuck. i like how you are the only one posting on cripplechan lol. I didnt even know that existed
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Can you stop fighting each other you fucking retarded pieces of shit
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>>130310230


LMFAO
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>>130311129
All of your images can be backtraced exactly from there, lad. Don't lie. We're all in the know here.
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>>130281178
>Why do Christians think it's cool to destroy nature?
Faggot, this is so stupid it just gave several newborns a brain tumor
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>>130311212
keep being a paranoid neet retard. i have gotten all of these images from here right on 4chan!
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>>130310997
Orthodox and traditional Christians hate Israel and the Jews. Vatican II is not Christianity.

>>130311081
>christkikenity is Jewish.

Jewish religion (Talmund) was invented in 500AD.
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>>130311317
this is you
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>>130311176
You're bad at shopping.
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>>130310532

Abraham wasn't a Jew lmfao

Yknow there were 12 tribes of Israelites? Judah was a single tribe.
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>>130310997
>>130311050
>>130311129
>>130311176

looks like retarded pagans are the new shills of pol, thanks for putting people against each other with your WE WUZ ideas
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>>130311317
>Jewish religion (Talmund) was invented in 500AD.
No it was invented somewhere around Alexander's conquest of the region, as a mix of native Israeli faith, Hellenic elements (like "Hell"... or "Hades"), and Zoroastrian elements (like good and evil god, aka "Yahwe" and "Satan", or "Yahwe" and "Jesus", some early christkikes actually believed Jesus is a good god, and the original god is an evil god.)
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>>130311510
>talking out of your ass this much

you need to watch less atheist fantasy "documentaries"
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>>130311461
jesus was a fucking JEW
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>>130311466
I'm pretty sure Christkikes are the ones who want to "gas" us, while we are just arguing why their semitic religion is harmful to europe and should be abolished.
>>130311626
>talking out of your ass this much
Which thing I said was wrong according to you?
>>130311665
BUT-BUT JESUS WAS BLONDE ANGLO-SAXON!11!1111
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Adenauer
>Konrad Hermann Joseph Adenauer was a German statesman who served as the first post-war Chancellor of Germany (West Germany) from 1949 to 1963.
>He was the first leader of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), a Christian Democratic party that under his leadership became, and has since usually been the most influential party in the country.
>He displayed a strong dedication to a broad vision of market-based liberal democracy and anti-communism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany
>West Germany joined NATO in 1955
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachim_Gauck
>is the President of Germany, serving since March 2012. A former Lutheran pastor, he came to prominence as an anti-communist civil rights activist in East Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel
>the daughter of Horst Kasner, a Lutheran pastor and a native of Berlin, and his wife Herlind, born in 1928 in Danzig (now Gdańsk, Poland)
>is a German politician who is currently Chancellor of Germany. She is also the leader of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros
>From 1979, as an advocate of 'open societies', Soros financially supported dissidents including Poland's Solidarity movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_(Polish_trade_union)
>first trade union in a Warsaw Pact country that was not controlled by a communist party.
>anti-Soviet social movement ranging from people associated with the Catholic Church
>CIA covert support
>In Sollicitudo rei socialis, a major document of Catholic Social Teaching, Pope John Paul II identifies the concept of solidarity with the poor and marginalized as a constitutive element of the Gospel and human participation in the common good.

More like, there never been more churches, while Christian Democrats didn't even exist in Socialism. Pro-refugee faggots are all Christian.
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>>130308858
thats just cause you're a cuck, 'friend' (I mean, kike, 123 seppuku)
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>>130311665
nope , you are a jew , a hasbara one , Jesus is the Lord, he trolled the rabbis hard, told jews to repent or burn in hell and in the end sacrificed himself for other Christians, sounds like /pol/ desu
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>>130311979
You are the one defending a Jewish cult, while we defend White traditions older than your christkikeknity, your judaism, and your bible.
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>>130311979
yup you are a jew
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>>130311466
theyre not 'pagans'
>but they want you to think they are 'based white pride pagans' because their detached-from-reality kike shills think it'll work .
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>>130312112
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>>130312227
>Jewish cult defender calling White culture defenders "jews"
couldn't get funnier that that.
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>>130311308
>he thinks bolshevik jews were christian

what an idiot.

>>130310997
>he doesn't understand "science" is jewish social engineering
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>"science" is jewish social engineering
Basically you are telling me that you don't believe that there are races? Are you a nigger and/or a jew?
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>>130312086
who you ? the 'Polish jew' shill of /pol/ , YOU are defending your jewish cult with lead-to-nowhere my pagan-is-better-than-your-paganry (that's step 2.0) divisive shit

>>130312112
nope , 'Christian memes debunked' , you make me laught.

>jews HATE him
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>>130312560
Christcuck how does it feel to always be wrong.

>my pagan-is-better-than-your-paganry
this is what christians are doing against other christians HAHAHAHA yeah I figured you'd be using rules for radicals strategy. fuck off.
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>>130312560
>the 'Polish jew' shill of /pol/
Never seen any Polish Jew here, I am actually partially German. My dick is perfectly fine and not circumsissioned, and yours?
>lead-to-nowhere my pagan-is-better-than-your-paganry
Are you on drugs? Hahaha.

And my paganism leads to rebuilding dying european culture, do you have a problem with that, kike?
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>>130310348
>The Crusaders never fought Islam. Wikipedia is where I get MY facts.

That's why you are utterly fucking clueless. Kill yourself.
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>>130312541
evolution, heliocentric cosmology, theory of relativity, are all jew lies bro.

>don't believe in other races
only about 2% of human DNA goes into physical appearence. 98% is behavoiral.

and I don't believe in the material realm. every person has a soul, Ideology>Race. its the inside thats real its the outside thats fake, but most people have nigger-tier ideology, so do you.

your picture is literal WE WUZ KANGZ

>thor kills giants
so did Joshua, and David. pretty much every continent and every culture has stories of people killing giants, or Nephilum
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>>130312969
Are you illiterate? This would make sence considering you defend christkikenity.
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>>130312969
maybe instead of doing that debate the sources used within those sources KIKE
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>>130313106
>evolution, heliocentric cosmology, theory of relativity, are all jew lies bro.
>only about 2% of human DNA goes into physical appearence. 98% is behavoiral.
>Ideology>Race
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>>130309883
>sources: wikipedia
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>>130312898
>My dick is perfectly fine
You don't have a dick.
>I side with kikes and sandniggers against Christianity, helping weaken it further.
Yes, faggot, I noticed.
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>>130313106
We got a real smart one here folks
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