Switzerland wants to adopt EU gun laws

>>130271835
Why does Switzerland care about EU's gun laws? Der Schweiz has no interest in joining Pax Germanica, so why does it matter?

Sounds like a cover for what the cabinet wanted to do anyway.

>>130271835
Fucking Shengen bullshit.

I'd love to be able to post a picture of each OP in the threads that they make, so everyone can see exactly who pumps all this shit out, and infer why.

Will you post a picture of yourself with timestamp OP?
Im so curious about what kind of human being makes these. Please and Thank You.

But why? Nobody really gets shot here, it's pointless and what about the military service?

>>130273834
>>130274790
Don't the swiss people have a say with your weird direct democracy?

>>130273834
RIP medpack

>>130274790
>But why?
Its called control of the populous. Democrats have been trying to do it here for a very long time. Elect Trump.

>>130271835
Guess I'm not moving to Switzerland later in life. How long before you pull a USA and decide to flood your beautiful 95% white country with shitskins like we did and are still doing?

>>130271835
>Switzerland wants to adopt EU gun laws

So, they want to confiscate all guns and give them to "refugees", huh?

>>130273257
it's die schweiz.

Wouldn't they have to hold a referendum for this?

>>130275139
desu Americans are more infsufferable than most of our "shitskins". Wish I were joking, but all the brown and black people I know are actually more integrated and capable of speaking the local language better than 99% of Americans here.

Also OP, we don't give a fuck, we have direct democracy, you might have heard of it? It means that nothing gets done without the approval of the majority. If this law change is as retarded as it seems, we'll vote against it and bury it. Simple.

>>130271835
not so fast. this will end up in ending shengen. good riddance

>>130274790
You dont keep up with the political actuity of your own country do you ?
Your government literally signed EU regulations supremacy over swiss law and has refused to abide by votationd for a while。

Why?

If it's not broken, you shoudln't fix it.

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>>130271835
Good, then man can finally embrace peace.

>>130275622
> we have direct democracy
lol this goy is brainwashed

>>130271835
We don't have a "gun culture" like the USA anyway. I don't know a single person who owns a gun which isn't either for the military or for killing animals.

>>130275687
Because it will be broken when like the rest of the EU the country turns brown.

>>130275622

>all the brown and black people I know are actually more integrated and capable of speaking the local language better than 99% of Americans here.


Once the EU makes you import muslims in mass your culture will be made over into theirs, not the other way around as you have only taken a few in.

Enjoy your trucks of peace on the way.

Next step is forcing them to take more refugees in. Switzerland is not multicultural enough

>>130275759
Also the image is very misleading. I've never seen anyone without police or military uniform carry a gun either.

>>130275701
>promised Messiah
Isn't that place taken by Jesus? Who the fuck are these guys?

>>130275759
please end yourself

>>130275894
So you're saying I'm wrong? Almost no one owns a gun for another reason afaik.

>>130275819
lol, we've had 0 terrorist attacks, despite having a high enough percentage of Muslims. Meanwhile the US, with a way lower percentage, has had plenty. Stay mad, cuck.

>>130275720
>another cuck doesn't know what direct democracy is
kek

>>130271835
Seems like another case of top-down leftwing reform,

>>130275961
it's time for you turn off your proxy and stop spreading lies

What the fuck is even going on, I thought you mountain Jews had your own thing going on and gave no shits about the EU?

>>130276080
Ah, you're a troll then ...

f
First they neuter your gun rights
And then they make cuckoldry mandatory.
It happened here.
Welcome to the cuck shed.

>>130276070
Pretty much what these cunts did with the rest of the EU.

>>130276122
>hello yes of course none of my 2 lefty friends in university own a gun so it's totally ok of the eu to disarm us tihihihi
end yourself

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>>130271835
>4th in world in guns per capita
wrong

>>130274790
Gun smuggling. Many of the illegal firearms found in the EU come from Switzerland precisely because of the lax regulations. If I'm not mistaken the guns used in one of the terrorist attacks in France were smuggled through Switzerland.

>>130275759
Shhh don't let reality get in the way of /pol/'s paranoia.

>>130276200
Right, of course I know only two people.
If you don't like it, why don't you make a referendum, faggot, not like they can disarm "us" if the majority doesn't agree.

>>130276639
there WILL be a referendum and you and your pro eu cucks will blown the fuck out.

>>130274855
Yes indeed, but our politicians tend to be pro-EU (bcs it would make their jobs easier if we were Eurocucks too). The real question though is how long will the EU super elites be able to maintain their centralized dystopia against the will of their people.

Also, direct democracy is the only true form of democracy.

>>130276683
>calling people cuck
You must be underage

>>130274790
This is a process old as time. They take away your guns, they take away free speech, and then they flood you with immigrants. Be ready.

>>130271835
They have to make sure you can't fight back against your muslim overlords when they pour into your country and infest the streets.

>>130276683
We're not in America, we don't have to choose from two bundles of stupid talking points. I hate the EU but I couldn't care less about this issue and I don't believe this is of importance to the majority of people.

>>130276913
>Be ready.
We are. They'll have to kill a vast percentage of the Swiss population if they attempt to push some EU tier social engineering.

>>130276994
>it's ok to sign of a piece of sovereignty because I dont care about that particular issue
that's how I can tell that you are proxy or some foreigner.

cold dead hands, swiss

>>130277063
You are so delusional it's hilarious. Consider seeking help tho, we don't want you to go on a rampage shooting.

>>130271835
serves you self-absorbed swissfaggots fucking right.
wait until your government decides to join EU as well and give up the neutrality meme, just a matter of time until you're fucked like us and until you receive kebap :)

>>130271835

there will be a fucking vote

>god have mercy on the poor motherfucker that wants to take my guns

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>>130277063
The trouble is that they do it gradually wherever they go. The next step is never the one that goes off a cliff, but eventually you're falling. They don't ban all guns right away they start with the evil scary ones. They don't take away all your free speech they just don't let anyone say nigger anymore. Part of the reason US conservatism is a joke is because it defends Cultural Marxism 1.0 against Cultural Marxism 2.0 while never realizing the whole system is rotten.

Luckily you have a Canton system so make sure you identify the most pozzed ones now and start documenting the traitors.

>>130277095
Du chaschs no so oft saege, es stimmt trotzdaem nid.
I don't care much about politics in general though. I haven't even voted for much of my life. The only thing that bothers me is mass immigration/asylum of 3rd world scum and that's why I'll be a one-issue voter for svp/sd for the time being until a better party comes to sense on this.

>>130275888
the ahmadis are a sub category of muslims that all other muslims hate and dont even consider muslim. I just wrote a paper on the history of those fags.

they think jesus ressurected and lived out the remainder of his like in the East. that dude Mirza is supposed to be another Messiah and simultaneously the Mahdi or the Great Reformer. other muslims are waiting for literal Jesus and some other guy.

>>130277170

swiss people voted with almost 60% not to join your cuk-club and the numbers did rise in the last years, so he isn't wrong technically,.

>>130277511
>They'll have to kill a vast percentage of the Swiss population
Explain how this isn't insane

>>130277602
please stop larping. for fuck sake the flags were a mistake

>>130277381
>sub category of muslims
But how can you be considered a muslim if you don't believe that Jesus was the One True Messiah? Doesn't make any sense to me. Islam isn't only about Muhammad but also about the God's Messengers before him. At least that's what I think.

>>130271835
Why ?

>>130277170
>Euro flag
>calls me delusional
Ok

>>130277298
You're absolutely right. We must resist cultural marxism and its nefarious consequences on native populations. But don't worry, careful cataloguing of subversive elements is being done as we speak, in my country and in yours.

It's interesting to me though that there will be a need for a global "revolution" against (((globalism))), otherwise it cannot be defeated. Destroying it will also mean destroying zionism and usury.

>>130277631
>anon claims mass executions and even all out war will break out if stricter gun laws are enacted
>i call this retarded
>i'm the one larping
People are not gonna put their life on the line for something as silly as these.
What are these unbearable stricter regulation precisely anyways? I bet you don't even know

>>130277854
Quality rebuttal

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>>130277854
>usury

I think that's the very last redpill anyone ever takes. That usury is not just exorbitant interest, but interest itself. It creates money on the ledger that doesn't exist, makes money the object rather than medium of commerce, and enslaves the debtor.

The true crime of National Socialism was labor backed currency. Fractional reserve banking is a scam while commodities like gold are valued however the market demands. What can't be created by accounting magic or hoarding is work. The National Socialists printed money in exchange for labor, paid it directly to the laborer who spent it locally. Completely BTFO'd the international banking system and Communism. An idea that is truly dangerous. Our libertarian friends may have criticisms of National Socialism, but banning interest rates and deposing moneyed power is the key toward liberation.

>>130271835
F

Schengen needs to be dismantled along with the EU.

>>130277063
With the huge amount of niggers, arabs and indians/tamils i see nowadays, compared to 10 years ago, this will take only a few generations. Fuck this westernized country.

>>130277602

it is insane.
but it is objectivly what you had to do to bring switzerland into the EU

>>130278622
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKbSLu9ABaQ

>>130271835
>no subhumans: check
>low criminal rate
i wonder

>>130278314
Completely agree. There is a lot to learn from Hjalmar Schacht still today. I've been looking for an impartial source / book / bio on his work and life but it's pretty hard to find.

>>130278622
Don't worry, the tide will turn and whites will prevail, as we always do.

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>>130278622
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/tama-s-tales_me-and-my-mum/43257552

((((they))) are going to strike

>>130278787
Impartiality is nigh impossible. As long as people tell you the truth that matters. If someone says "X is happening and this is good" or "X is happening and this is bad" they both tell you X is happening. I didn't know that name, which is funny considering what I posted earlier, so I'll check him out. Just compile everything you can on Herr Schacht and dig through it yourself. Maybe even write a book when you're done.

>>130279212
>Maybe even write a book when you're done.
That would be useful and interesting indeed. Where did you find the info you relayed in your previous message ? TRS ?

Twenty years ago, I felt safer in a big european city without a gun than in a big American city with a gun. Not anymore. Europeans should be liberalizing self-defense laws and gun laws now that they've been blessed with diversity.

>>130279753
I found the information scouring both 4 and 8 pol for a couple of years. Michael Hoffman also talks about usury quite a bit.

>>130271835
Don't worry Swissbro, it won't get through the Parliament, and if it does, we'll just vote it off.

>>130279993
Thank you. 8 is indeed a good board for discussing such matters, I'll see if I can find archived threads or so about Schacht. SH

Guys, our elites are just setting themselves up. There's no way 50% of the Swiss population is ready to leave their gun rights for the EU. We just need to make noise around it and raise awareness.

90% of the Swiss want to keep out of the EU. I'd venture to say a votation on Schengen would end badly for the EU as well. Guns? No way. Come get them, shiteaters.

this completly retarded EU law includes the following:

> requierment to join a gunclub for that specific gun you have
> requierment to have a pysochological test all 5 years
> be put into an EU databank
> only 10 round magazines for semiauto guns

implications:

> every gunowner is viewed at as a potential criminal (what happened to innocent untill proven guilty)
> expropriation of every person that cant follow any of these rules
> a lot of gun types are not supported by clubs, meaning they will die out.
> which fucking lefty son of a bitch honestly thinks 10 round magazines help anyone????

Reaction:

as the single most democratic country on the face of this earth we will have a refferendum on that bullshit

it will be a clash between swiss traditions and the schengen treaty.

>>130280611
No in a landslide. Mark my words.
Romand cucks will drive the yes but based Schwyzerdütsch Heimat will save the day as always.
Then the debate will backfire on Schengen and the EU. Let's get to work.

>>130271835
And people want to know why we do not like firearm registration.

It's because libs can just change a law and come around collecting you shit...

>>130277367
lol fuck, I love swiss version of German, I always have to laugh when I hear it

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>>130281179
Registration then confiscation. They can't take it if they don't know you have it.

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>>130280848

autism engaged

>>130281466

Should be UK Switzerland Norway and Iceland walking off together

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>>130271835

Farewell Europe.

>>130273834
Why didn`t you just opt out because of military reason like Finns did?

It's fucking bullshit.
Schengen is something that has no downsides for us, and now we're going to lose border control free travel because the EU insists on altering the deal.

>>130284020
>no downside
>criminal foreigners go on robbing sprees unchallenged
>we cant keep out nignogs
> no downside

>>130284020

>loose border control
you mean we will get out bordercontrol back.

>free travel
i rather show my passport at a airport than being stripped of my right to own guns.

>>130271835
RIP Switzerland

>>130274790
So your politicians can be as corrupt as they want without worrying about being shot by an unsatisfied customer

>>130284110
If we had Schengen but no treaty on the free movement of people, we'd be fine.
If we had no Schengen but the treaty of the free movement of people, we'd be still as fucked as now.
Free movement is the problem. Schengen is harmless, since border controls are useless against anything except smuggling anyway.

>>130283898
>implying we did or will
Keskusta is going to fuck everything up and you know that

>>130284264

our heads of state can stand in fron of a 300 man crowd armed with guns and not fear for his life.

because we have a direct democracy nobody can be angry at the politicians because they have basiclly no power.

if we say fuck the EU law the have to go to bruessel and explain them how they can fuck themselves.

>>130284185
>you mean we will get our bordercontrol back.
Yes. We'll get it back. And so will our neighbours. Meaning we lose border control free travel.

>I rather show my passport than lose guns
I believe you, and I think you're in the majority.

>>130284432
>we lose border control free travel.
it does not hurt us in fact i think this wil make our country safer.
just look at all the cities blowing up all around us.

>>130284751
I disagree. Border control does little against terrorism. I admit that free travel is also not essential, but it will be a small luxury lost for no gain for anyone because the EU tried to push this bullshit.

>>130284347
It`s allready decided. In the long run they fuck up but Keskusta people are in gun business also so why would they shoot in their own foot?

>>130284933

little is better than nothing tbqh.

>EU tried to push this bullshit

altering the deal after the deal is made is never a good idea.

>>130285076
It's not decided, there has been some speculation on how they are going to implement it but nothing more. Rifle magazines for over 10 rounds will probably become illegal because of these EU-cucks and that's going to suck massive cock.

>Keskusta people are in gun business
Maybe few but most of them are in Kokoomus or PS(rip)

>>130271835
Stop using that kike flag lad

>>130285144
Yes. I will vote against the implementaion of these new rules, not because I want Schengen to disappear or because I care about guns, I'll do it because the EU needs to understand that this isn't acceptable.

>>130271835
That shit won't fly.
Their entire military defence depends on their citizens having guns on the ready.

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>Switzerland
>literally a sovereign state not part of the EU
>sovereignly wants to changes its own gun laws
>will do it only after a referendum, if it gets enough support
>/pol/tards are still triggered
Oh for fuck's sake, you children literally think democracy is only right when your people win.

>>130285347

i will do the same, because i did not care schengen but i care about my guns.
>sounding like a redneck

>>130285361
1: I never think democracy is right.
2: You don't either, so why lie?
3: Top kek at portraying your three war criminals as laughing when in fact they are all eternally assblasted at getting rekt by a reality TV star.

>>130275720
we do have a direct democracy. do you actually know anything about switzerland?

>>130285361
speack after me:
>sovereign countries do not take laws from external sources.
or as it was said in 1291
> we will not have foreign judges

>>130275720

>burger education

>>130276119
yeah, that's kind of how it works. the thing is, we kind of have to give a shit about the EU. we rely on the EU in many ways, which is why we can't be completely ignorant of their desires. that being said, because we're a direct democracy, at the end of the day, if the swiss people are not in favour of a new policy or law, it won't go through.

>>130285262
Yep but it wont consider Finland because of reasons like Sweden and snus and even better when thay say it`s military issue.

>>130285361

kys degenerate

>>130276459
source?

>>130275759
this
i have worked with a company in Zurich and this is what those guys basic said

>>130286164
City dwellers. I have no idea how the situation on the country is, but there's probably a lot more sport shooting going on there.

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>>130285749
>> we will not have foreign judges
Signatory to the European Convention of Human Rights. Subject to the jurisdiction of the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg.

>>130284414

Your still cucked by the EU lad. Even more than EU members.

>Switzerland isnt an EU member
>still has open borders
>still pays money to the EU
>cant say no to EU laws without guillotining a bilateral dea

Your basically a bitch state of the EU. You are a colony of the EU. You accept EU dick in your ass, pay for it and cant say no to it.

I feel for you bro. But because you are a landlocked cuck, geography has fucked your deal with the EU

>>130286361

human rights have been adopted because they literally do not interfer with our constitution, which is older than the human rights.

>>130286416
>still has open borders
That one is more or less by choice. Nothing is stopping us from leaving Schengen except that Schengen is a nice thing with no real downsides.
>can't say no to EU laws without guillotining a bilateral deal
Only parts of said bilateral deal have a guillotine clause. The rest has nothing of the sort.
>still pays money to the EU
Well, if you want something from them, can't go to war over it, and refuse to become an outright member, bribery is pretty much the only solution.

>>130271835
Please sir... I find this to be an important thing to talk about... Please immortalize your thoughts on firstamender.com

You can write about this and share that link forever so it doesn't get bumped to past page 10.

>>130271835

>EU can't protect the outer borders from gun runners or people just walking in to save itself
>"oh gee let's ban firearms from law-abiding owners, that will surely stop the terrorism"

Only people who won't have guns are the sheep who are too afraid to break the (((law))) to defend themselves. It's a rigged game.

>>130285262

>tfw got hundreds of 30 round mags just lying around

I'll buy out all I can if they actually go through with the ban, prices will go up. Government in the business of regulating bits of plastic and springs, how fucked is that? Not to mention you can just make your own with a 3d-printer. Fucking traitors, honestly.

>>130286361
said the same thing about you must adopt the euro how well did that go in the UK and that poland and the balked states need to take rapefugees how is that working out for you?

>>130286675

this

>>130275759
>Damals sprachen die Befürworter der Initiative von 2,3 Millionen Feuerwaffen in der Schweiz, also von 29 Waffen auf 100 Einwohnerinnen und Einwohner. Laut einer Schätzung des Instituts "Small Arms Survey" der Uni Genf sind es 3,4 Millionen, was 42 Waffen auf 100 Einwohner wären.

>>130276252
lmao what the fuck?

>>130271835
I don't even understand why they would want to do this. What are they trying to fix? Is there some hidden ultra violent crime sprees going on in Switzerland? Maybe they're just trying to "fix" Switzerland until it breaks, and then use that as justification for more "fixing"

Fucking EU.
Fucking SP.
Fucking everyone but the SVP, actually.
Fucking SVP.
One day our patience will come to an end...

>>130286996
The best I've heard is gun smuggling from Switzerland into the EU, but I've yet to see any sources of that being a real problem.

>>130286996

> one of the lowest gun crime rate in EU

LETS FIX IT

F U C K E U
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>>130286998

SVP has the best meme capaign posters

>>130275759
Then what's your problem anyway? Why not let gunnuts have fun?

>>130286675
>Schengen is a nice thing with no real downsides.
You can only say that if you live in a isolated mountain village. Everyone else sees the downsides every single day. It was fun while it lasted but that thing went to shit.

>>130276459
>>130276599
Then how about your border guards do their job properly, you fucking knob?

>>130287115

>you have to be a swiss citizen
>immigrants from selected countries can't have guns
>if you have any minor interference with the law all your guns will be taken

how can smugeling work????

>>130276459
And the people pulling the triggers where smuggled by Merkel. Yet noone wants to outlaw Merkel, which would be the better choice to prevent terrorism.

>>130287503

gun smugeling is a non problem in switzerland
>>130287511

>>130287261
Still full of incompetent fucks.
And what the fuck were those Anti-Energiegesetz posters? There were legitimate arguments against which they didn't capitalise on, instead alarmist bullshit that only serves to hurt their reputation.

>>130287409
What we're seeing the downsides of is the treaty of free movement of people, or free settlement. Free movement across borders is harmless, in general but also especially compared to free settlement.

>>130287593
Tell it to this LARPing faggot with eurocuck flag. I bet he is a leaf tho.

>>130271835
>Switzerland wants to adopt EU gun laws
Yeah sure, just like we "wanted" to scrap the white Australia policy.

>>130271835
It's inevitable that the cucked Euros will eventually be completely disarmed (Same with the UK). The speed of new legislation being brought in to place will increase tenfold as the Muslim population skyrockets. Ironically enough the Muslims will acquire firearms anyway.

>>130287686

yep they fucked that one up real good

>>130287713
The free movement is where it starts. Those border checks took 30secs and they actually made sure a lot of shit stayed out of our country.
I just had to hold up my passport and usually they winked me through. At the airpot a quick look at my passport, name on ticket and passport matches, have a nice trip..
There was nothing wrong with it.

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>>130286675

On the borders, you had a referendum to stop mass immigtation and your politicians pussied out bigly. Even though it passed 50%

Im not an expert on your bilateral deals, i only read that in the daily express.

On the money thing, its retarded because you are paying for a trade deal. When you made a trade deal with China, did you pay them? No. You are paying to be a colony of an EU empire.

>>130288205
>pic
Can we gas Basel please. No bombs, it's such a nice city, only problem is the people.

>>130288205
>You are paying to be a colony of an EU empire.
No. We are paying to make it less attractive to make us a colony of an EU empire.
Sure, it's not as noble as never giving those damn EU bastards anything, but unlike that approach, it works.
We did it with the nazis, too.

>>130288205
>>130288397

i start to believe taht being a cuck is language dependent

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>>130271835
That's what happens when you let women vote.

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>>130288431

>switzerland using the same tactics for the EU as for the Nazis

what should this tell me, i wonder?

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>>130271835
they won't
>>130287686
Urs warst du Anti-Energiegesetz?

>>130288431

Theyre coming for your guns swissbro. They want you disarmed.

>>130288397

I hear basel is really cucked. True?

>>130288962
>I hear basel is really cucked. True?
>surrounded by france and germany
turbocucked

>>130288962
>They want you disarmed.
I doubt it. They want to show they're doing something against terrorism, so they're disarming Schengen. They don't care about us.

>>130277111
Heil Helvetia!

Higher population numbers lead to more restrictions. It will get worse in other respects, it's already intensifying with privacy matters. The more people there are, the higher the chance for infighting and general conflict. The whole world will turn into a China-like society.

>>130288962
Baslers are like what Burgers call "smug liberals" (though liberal has a different meaning here).

>>130271835
Reminder : 1 : they ban ar15/ak47 2 : they ban pistols 3 : then shotgun 4 : then bolt 5 : then 22 caliber 6 : then air guns. Just look at Australia law for gun. They want to ban all guns not just assault rifles.