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$100,000 for Designer Baby from new USA company

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https://www.technologyreview.com/s/608033/the-fertility-doctor-trying-to-commercialize-three-parent-babies/?set=608091

To avoid USA regulations, the embryo is made in Mexico and then brought to USA.

will be to combine the technique with editing genes, so that parents can select hair or eye color, or maybe improve their children’s IQ. “Everything we do is a step toward designer babies,” Zhang says of Darwin Life. “With nuclear transfer and gene editing together, you can really do anything you want.”

Because of that regulatory red tape, Zhang says Darwin Life will continue making embryos in the U.S. but will perform the medical procedures at New Hope’s clinic in Guadalajara, Mexico, or in other countries he believes will embrace the idea.“For now, our nuclear transfer technique is very much like an iPhone that’s designed in California and assembled in China,” he says.
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>>130264155
Archives are nice.
https://archive.is/bqsNx
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Theres just something offputting about it. I know logically it can only be a good thing. We can eradicate many diseases, increase lifespans, make everyone good looking, have almost superhuman strength and be highly intelligent. But I find it just..wrong.

Maybe I'm jelly that Ill never be a designer chad baby.
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>>130264317
MIT tech rev is a legit news place though, not MSM shit.
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>>130264374
Better than SJW shitters who would go "it's unethical" and hide from the fact they can't be honest.
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Fuugg. Born to early to do anything but shitpost. What a life.
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>>130264443
hmm, now I feel bad.
Thanks for letting me know ancapanon.
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>let's regulate blah blah blah blah need more regulations
>Dr. ching chang chong just goes to mexico and brings the embryo back

nice try libtards, ancap always wins.
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>>130264155
>we can now make white children with blonde hair and blue eyes
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There are going to be many non-whites who are going to modify their children to resemblea stereotypical Southern Europeans(I'm saying south european because it would be an even bigger drastic change if the parents tried to make a child resemble a pale and blonde person)
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>>130264155
How the fuck do you "edit genes"? This isn't fallout character creation
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>>130265703
...like anything else?

Cut out bad genes, insert good ones.
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>>130265703
Crispr
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>>130264155
I fucking love the free market.
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Wealth gap? More like health gap

I'm not against it, but I hope the people who wield all the power have compassion for those lesser than them. That will be the true decider of how this all plays out, in my humble opinion.
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I plan to do this when I want to have children provided there is enough evidence that it is safe.

Why would I want to curse my children with turbomanletism and my family's other genetic disorders?
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>>130264374
You think that's off putting, just wait until we start augmenting with machines. My body is ready.
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>>130264155
Can they edit my genes to make me less gay for Barron Trump?
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>>130267263
Assuming no more government fuckery, it should get cheaper overtime. We're all going to make it! Well, our children.
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>>130267297
>My body is ready.

What does that mean? Are your bodily functions so far down the drain that you need a machine to perfom the act of urination for you?
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>>130264155
It was obviously coming, we're just being obtuse about ethics here even though its actually an arms race over whose ubermensch will rule the future
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>>130264374
It could ultimately make people more physically equal, huh? The irony.
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>>130267484
Fucking newfags man...
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>>130264155
>tfw GTA commercials become reality
>http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Babies_Overnight
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>>130264155
Y'know, all I ever wanted was to grow up as a boomer, Fuck the future, fuck this computer dna shit, can't I just get married and have kids and a nice white picket fence house? FFS.
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Can't fucking wait
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Egeunics here we come. I can already imagine my enjoyment watching the debates. And while the dicusssion goes on China will already have birthed 100m new superhumans and in the end the left will allow it as long as blue eyes and blond hair modification is outlawed.
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>>130264155
Gattaca is becoming reality
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>>130267646
>Fucking newfags man...

Fuck you, nigger. I bet you also post Girugamesch.
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>>130264581
ARRR MATEY
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>>130267484
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aCY0BYYtfs
Took longer to find the song with video than it should have
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>>130264374
> I know logically it can only be a good thing
thats the thing though. You dont know that.
Changeing genes has 1000s of unintended consequences. per gene.

kids modified in this way are basically guinea pigs.
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>>130264155

>100k for a mexican baby

lol fuck off
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>>130265236
Southern Europeans are the most attractive of the bunch.
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>>130268058
Theres literally nothing wrong with Girugamesch posting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji2TYVUicTs
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>>130268260
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i got a feeling this guy might be scam artist , because if this was true

1. it would cost wayyyyy more than 100k
2. he would suffer an accident
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>>130268195
You have to start somewhere, though. But you are right and it's probably too early to start doing this on humans. The chance the baby is fucked up, or never born, is higher than getting a perfect outcome.
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>oh cool blue eyes blonde hair

>oh shit, they got cancer at age 4

>oh shit, my child is growing a second head

100k to be a guinea pig

fuck you chink doc.
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>>130264374
Longer lifespans seem pointless. We have about 80 years to get what we feel we need to do done. If we don't do these things by then, we probably wouldn't do them if we lived 10 years or even 100 years longer. Besides, very long lives only means more funerals to attend and probably more traumatic moments. Idk if I want to live past 80.

>>130267919
Would the left allow it at all? They'll probably see it as a threat to racial equality and income equality. I can see mostly white and asian families using this service while dumbass blacks keep having retarded babies out of wedlock.
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>>130264155
If someone's paying 100k, then that baby better be min/maxed to hell and back and come with some rare drops.
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>>130264931
soon we gattaca baby, right wingers will get them too because muh aryan genes, can't wait until people will get 5 lil' teslas, jews btfo. i wonder if they will try to make laws against it thought
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>>130264155
>Trusting a chinkshit with your baby in some Mexican shithole hospital
NO thank you.

I'd rather let the chinks experiment on themselves before on white people.
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>>130264155
The first designer babies will be Bogdanoff babies. You heard it here first, remember that.
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>I spoke to my wife for the possibility of this
>"No, I want my kids just like God gave it to us"
This is literally the first time I am doubting my faith, it's stressing to think all the kids in the future will be superior to mine because of this reasoning.
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>>130264155
> pay 100k for improved little stacy
>she fucks a nigger and wastes all them genes
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>>130268940
>trusting a chinkshit with the health and future of your genetic bloodline in some mexican hovel in Guadalajara
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>>130268441
>2. he would suffer an accident
For violating zero laws?

The price sounds about right desu.
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>>130268961
>be czech father
>daughters immediately do couch casting once they're 18 and start a porn career
>at the end of their professional carrer, at 24, she fucks niggers and becomes a drug addict promoting feminism in universities
wew
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>>130268731
>min/maxed
[Urge to play Dark Souls intensifies]
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>>130269096
One day white people will be doing this as well.
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>>130268961
just make her a lesbo :D
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>>130264155
Nice
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>>130268844
I'm sure if it's available to us now it's been available to them for the past 10+ years.
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>>130269290
>Having a filthy chink impregnate your waifu instead of giving her a good biobaby the old fashioned way
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Could one dedign ones child to have a 12 inch horse cock? Because humanity is going to go down a strange road once that starts happening..
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>>130264374
we'll get a ruler elite from the richest families. /pol/ is unironically fine with rothschilds becoming superhumans despots. Pierce Brown has written a good trilogy about such a future.
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>>130269394
Welp if she fucks a niggrr, at least half of the genes gets passed.....
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>>130264374
I might be great about stopping diseases and such but parents will end up engineering their kids according to whatever fashion or fad was 'in' at the time they had them
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>order a white baby
>get arrested for hate crimes
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>>130269162
dude why do you even come here ? do you really think ((they)) want perfect humna beings around? do you not see whats happening to europe???? , also even if it cost 100k to make its still a niche that "guarantees" human perfection should cost 5m+

>>130268940
divorce that bitch or put her in her place
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>>130269581
That would make easier to classify generations.
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>>130268730
>Would the left allow it at all? They'll probably see it as a threat to racial equality and income equality. I can see mostly white and asian families using this service while dumbass blacks keep having retarded babies out of wedlock.

If all the countries who care about national power and don't give a fuck about the ethical ramifications decide to genetically modify humans then even the left will realize the necessity to follow in this trend if they want to stay relevant.
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>Acquire Woman(s)
>Impregnate as fast as possible
>Tweak genes for 200 point IQ Aryan Ubermensch
>Save the world

Dont stop till you drop
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>>130269655
I'm assuming you're referring to the break away civilization. Yeah, I think that is a real threat as well. As of right now though it seems this is available to anyone with the money. So long as we don't let (((governments))) stop it we should be good.
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>>130264155
I support this.
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>>130269797
You honestly believe ((they)) will allow any white babies to be engineered? More than likely there will be many cases of white babies having "errors" and dying in the womb.
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>>130269437
Jews tend to be pretty nasty looking, not sure why they'd let that happen if baby designers were accessible.
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>>130269505
>we'll get a ruler elite from the richest families
This is already happening, the rich Chinese families are getting stem therapies now.
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>>130264155
ITT people with no understanding of gene editing beyond memes discuss the ethics and procedures involved in making a designer baby.

We do not know all of the alleles necessary to specifically alter most phenotypic traits, such as height, eye color, skin color, hair color, etc.

Also for everyone throwing around "muh CRISPR," do any of you even know how it works? You can only feasible target a few sites within any given cell and many of the applications are limited to gene deletion through removing a hundred bp region, leading to protein misfolding. Yes, you can cut flanking regions and force homologous recombination with somewhat higher efficiency to replace a gene with another, but that is not feasible on the scale that is being proposed here.

At most you will be able to alter 2 or 3 loci effectively within the child. That is enough to remove disease alleles, but not much else. This man is trying to scam people out of their money and while I like that it will push people to critically consider where technology is going this is by no means ready to do anything on the scale of what he is proposing.

t. Molecular biologist
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>>130270362
Jews are actually so narcissistic that they believe that they look good. Jews believe that every Jew is superior to every non-Jew no matter what and in all aspects.
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>>130270593
>Murican so stupid he thinks you can't identify eye-color, haircolor or some of the variance in hormones to specific alleles

Man did you just pull up some blog, copy paste it and hope everyone is as stupid as you?
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>>130264155
What really worries me is that orientals seem to be the only people with the low soul-to-scientistry ratio necessary to pioneer this field and that orientals have perhaps the worst perception of which subjective confluence of traits make for a decent human being
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>>130270620
Perhaps they have access to it and just don't use it because they think they're far too superior and pure in the first place, despite looking like the bastard children of rat and man.
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>>130270593
>tfw unemployed molecular biologist
I just want to fuck around with some genes, man. It's such a cool field. What are you working on anon?
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>>130264155
>tfw you will never be a perfect designer baby
Its not fair
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>>130270593
"It was later found that a set of six SNPs within OCA2-HERC2, SLC24A4, SLC45A2, TYR and IRF4 genes formed a very effective predictor of eye color, giving successful rate of 93% for brown, 91% for blue and 72% for intermediate eye color "

>But im a molecular scientist i just don't know anything within the field or believe that 91% accuracy is extremely inaccurate
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>doctor is chinese

im shocked
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In 200 years the Chinese Wolverine will be ruling over what was once the USA.

Check the digits.
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>>130264155
Yeah this will end well. We really will cause our own extinction. It's not going to be an asteroid. It's not going to be an alien invasion. It'll be all us. Too smart and too stupid for our own good.
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>>130270811
>There are at least 15 genes for eye color, each contributing to the final shade
>over 700 genes affect height
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/02/01/512859830/which-genes-make-you-taller-a-whole-lot-it-turns-out

>over 100 genes for skin color
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/researchers-identify-huma/

But please, go on and tell me how we can simultaneously target all of these within a single cell. The only part I will agree with is hormone production, and even that ignores their complex interactions with other proteins that can be altered.

>>130270837
I work on germ cell development with ultimate goal of restoring fertility to people who received high doses of chemotherapy as children. Ideally I will be able to transition into work on removing disease alleles in the future, similar to what is proposed here, but on a much smaller scale when the political climate is more favorable.

>>130271026
Interesting, I will need to look more into that. Admittedly my work is not focused on eye color so I was unaware of this. Still, it did not come up in my initial scan so you'll have to forgive me. In any case, how do you propose we alter those snps simultaneously with few off target effects in a single cell with few off target effects?
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>>130271602
You forgot to archive it
>http://npr org/sections/health-shots/2017/02/01/512859830/which-genes-make-you-taller-a-whole-lot-it-turns-out
https://archive.is/s80TC
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>>130264581
Relax you dumb goy. CRISPR can still edit you individual cells and then grow new parts for you in a lab
And the future of brain modification lies with cybernetics and chips anyway
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>>130271602
>Hey i was unaware of it but i still made some huge assumptions but i swear this is normal for molecular scientist
>Hey what do you mean you don't do these on a single cell but you literarilly pour them in a vat and CRISPR hundreds or even thousands at the same time and then afterwards look at the cells to determine which ones got what changes and throught the cheer number you can often do really advanced edits??

Lying is hard dude, it takes training. Either read up on the subject beforehand or don't even try to pretend alright?
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>what could possibly go wrong?....rubs hands.
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>>130264155
you know it was a matter of time when all of our riches are so hungry for them babies
not only can they make their tiny sex slave out of thin air, they can make them perfect to their taste
they definitively already raped one designer baby. i mean eat a dominoes pizza and pasta. ping pong
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>>130264155
>hecho en mexico
DROPPED
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>>130271816
>Hey what do you mean you don't do these on a single cell but you literarilly pour them in a vat and CRISPR hundreds or even thousands at the same time and then afterwards look at the cells to determine which ones got what changes and throught the cheer number you can often do really advanced edits??

While you are correct in regards to traditional cell culture you do realize that is a wholly unfeasible method for altering an embryo right?

>Don't worry Ma'am we are just going to literally rip out your entire ovary, harvest all of the eggs, throw them into a culture and hope that some of them turn out ok.

It is more feasible with regards to sperm, but then you are not really controlling for the mother at all which would defeat the purpose.
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>>130272272
>Hey guys here's what we are going to do we are going to create embryos and then crispr them cause obviosly that's the only way it can be done!
>Well actually its more common nowadays to edit both gametes to increase chances and speed up the processes, not to mention you can edit eggs from scratch with "radical (calm your tits you know what i mean)" dna injected into it requiring a whole lot less.
>Hey i'm a molecular biologist i just don't know stuff about DNA, cells or current developments alright?

I'm honestly kinda amazed that you keep on making a fool of yourself.
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>>130268730
>Longer lifespans seem pointless. We have about 80 years to get what we feel we need to do done. If we don't do these things by then, we probably wouldn't do them if we lived 10 years or even 100 years longer. Besides, very long lives only means more funerals to attend and probably more traumatic moments. Idk if I want to live past 80.

I'm gonna dance on your grave.
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Is there any way to bring back Neanderthal genes and traits using gene editing or cloning, or at least bring them together to recreate some variance of human close to Neanderthal?
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>>130264155
>$100,000 for Designer Baby from new USA company

Find out if it's jew owned...

if it is, you are having a black baby.
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>>130272936
>if it is, you are having a black baby.

unless you are black, and then you are having a downie.
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>>130264155
Isn't there a WKUK skit about this?

Jokes are becoming reality.
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>>130272497
Neat. I was actually unaware you could electroporate a zygote to improve efficiency by that much.

Since you are more knowledgeable, any speculations on maximum number of targets you can feasibly alter with high specificity utilizing the current methods?
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>>130272936
tfw white babies will be illegal because SJW's who govern you will say society is better off without the genetically determinstic and internalized racism of white babies
the future will be so dark, you will not need eyes to not see it

The Kangz Shall Ryze
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>>130273162
Nope. I only have knowledge from reading my SO's books on the subject and their whole consensus is "Some".

And incase you haven't catched on these methods are completely untested on humans.
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>>130264155
>“For now, our nuclear transfer technique is very much like an iPhone that’s designed in California and assembled in China,” he says.
Yeah, that makes it sound much less inhuman.
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>>130273228
Make white babies in everything besides skin color.
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>>130264374
It's offputting because it's bypassing natural selection much more so than modern technology which has already basically neutered it completely.
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>>130273277
Of course, the article I found on the zygote editing was only in mice. Still, the fact it can be done in vivo with such high rates of biallelic inactivation is really impressive.

Honestly, I was way more involved in epigenetics was actually involved in an Arabidopsis lab for the last few years so my knowledge on mammalian work is a bit rustier then I would like. Still, thanks for pointing out areas for me to research further.
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>>130273556
Considering that humanity is more or less the only immediate factor in natural selection over itself it is logical that it will also take the process of "mutation" in its own hands.

Normal evolution is too slow to adapt to the speed at which our technological development progresses. If humanity really starts to move into space it must have some way of creating bodies capable to take it for prolonged periods of time or even for the duration of ones life. And we can't wait another 100+k years for that.
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>>130273478
You think "race" doesn't go beyond skin color? All genes associated or unique to whites will be guilty by association.
There is no stopping the train of progress
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>>130264931

Don't assume that they won't select for altruism, openness, etc. The kids will also be shitlib zombies, but ones more adept at obtaining credentials.
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>>130274024
That's gonna be a nice war.
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>>130273228
>SJW's who govern

SJW's opinions can be safely ignored because they are white.

Tell them this, collect salt and tears.
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>>130264155
>playing god
This will end in nothing but trouble.
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>>130274501
They won't be "white". They will be the trans-black cis-phobic fur-kin victims of patriarchal oppression , and there will be quota's in place to ensure they are automatically delegated to the top of every corporate and governing hierarchy.
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>>130264155
Even without genome editing, you Westerners already invent and normalize 31 fluid genders and transsexual pregnant shemales, and shoveling it down to public's throats. So no worry, the lunacy of humanity can only go further and beyond.
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>>130264155

Inb4 nonwhites start having white children.

Inb4 the Marxist regressive Left losing their minds when nonwhites start bleaching themselves to get closer to perfection.
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They could probably have even cheaper prices per embryo in china or india.
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>>130264317
Vased Norwegi--wait There's two now?
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>>130264374
Yes it's creepy, because first it's unknown and secondly knowing that you will live among these enhanced humans without the possibility to be one generate a lot of anxiety, especially since we are spoonfed since birth with the "equality meme".

The thing is it will be done no matter what, China doesn't give a fuck about equality, they want performance because they crave to overthrow european 500 years old global hegemony, the one child policy was basically a giant eugenic program.

Also space conquest will require gene editing anyway (to resist to hostile environnement and hibernation).
We opened the pandora box with the Renaissance, now there is no choice but to deal with it.
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>>130275595
it will get worse

furry shitters of today will have gene edited furry kids.
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>>130268940
We still have decades before mastering it, also genetics isn't everything, epigenetics and education are very important, see the legions >110 IQ NEET here with zero social values.

It will probably become mainstream in 20 years or so, maybe more.
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>genes control everything, even behavioral inclinations and mental state
>build a completely custom gene code letting white pigs pick some insignificant shit like eye or hair color
>white pigs let you shape their future by programming their youth on genetic level to do whatever you wish
>and they are not just ordinary babies, but the top of the pack, from the riches families, most successful and good looking who are bound to be the most influential people in their country
>both right-swingers with their retarded 1488 blond hair blue eyes and libshits who want supermulatto that looks like mixture of every race in the world beg you to take their money and install backdoors into their larvae
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>>130274714
>They won't be "white". They will be the trans-black cis-phobic fur-kin victims of patriarchal oppression

then you sue the company for false advertising.
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>You were born too early to have your IQ augmented but just in time see the new generations receive the treatment relegating you to the equivalent of an ape
Just kill me
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>>130264155
Do you guys really trust your embryos being made in Mexico? The kid is gonna turn out brown.
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>>130264374
You will just be jelly of younger chads with better gene tech. What you want is the jealousy feels removed from your genes.
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>>130264155
Aren't the women involved in this being cucked because the baby has DNA from the egg donor too?
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If you're afraid of gene-edited superhumans in the future, just swim really far out in the ocean screaming "I SAVED NOTHING FOR THE SWIM BACK!" and they'll all drown
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>>130272936
we wuz designez n shiet
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>>130268730
>Longer lifespans seem pointless. We have about 80 years to get what we feel we need to do done. If we don't do these things by then, we probably wouldn't do them if we lived 10 years or even 100 years longer. Besides, very long lives only means more funerals to attend and probably more traumatic moments. Idk if I want to live past 80.
Only people without a hunger for knowledge say this.
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Good.
Kill all diseases and make people as intelligent as possible.
The faster this becomes a thing the better. Thank you chinks.
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>>130264155
>Year 2200
>Socialism established worldwide
>No white people left alive
>Genetic engineering becomes extremely cheap
>Authorities determine that humanity cannot continue if IQs don't increase
>Mandatory GE is mandated for all parents
>Use white genotypes to obtain desirable traits
>All humans are white by 2300
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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