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Brothers and sisters, the spirit of Europe is PAGAN
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>>130257790
Yes it is.
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>>130257790
Op. You have any idea how old that symbol is on his shoulder?
Hint: Before humans even stepped on Evropa
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>>130258218
It is one of the representations of the eternal wheel and perplexity. Yes, what it represents is timeless but the sign itself is as old as Germanic people are
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>>130257917
>christian has brown skin
>pagan has white skin
wtf i hate the past 2000 years of european history now
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>>130257790
hail perun
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>>130257790
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>>130258561
Christians have nothing against racemixing as long as everybody is christian.
Such thought is repulsive for a pagan. It will take less than 100y for you christcucks to ruin Europe
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>>130258732
Slava Perunu!
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>>130258870
Did you actually think about what you just typed? You do realise that Europeans were Christian for 1,600 years before secularism took hold, right? And it MUST be obvious to you that the decline of Christianity correlated with the rise of multiculturalism. Please think.
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>>130259705
Find me the place in bible where racemixing is forbidden. Where exactly does Jesus consider "kin" as something of value?? Exactly, nowhere. And that's why you christcucks fall for the racemixing meme.
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>>130259933
If I could ask the same fo your religion, do pagan gods forbid you from racemixing?
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Lol u guys probably accept poo in loos lmao
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autistic larpers are just as bad as kekistani retarda
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Stop LARPing you utter faggot
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>>130260439
There is a clear concept of kin in IE religions. It is us Arya "the free people", those who possess land and most importantly those who descend from gods vs those who don't - are not of our kin. It was this premise on which the Aryan Indians justified their conquest of dark Dravidians.
In my particular religion it is the god Rod literally meaning kin from whom all Slavs emanate, we even have a word biti v sorodu "to be related by blood".
People on your pic appropriate Norse gods and go clearly against this principle. No one is to stop them, the gods will judge them.
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>>130257790

/80iq/ general
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>>130260917
Do you even know what LARPing means?
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>>130260917
How are pagan fags larping any harder than christcucks. I've known like one person in my life that unironically attended church regularly.
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>>130261203
Live action role playing as
muh pagan white man
muh noble pagan
muh gods will judge them

autism speaks
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>>130261063
I have 180 iQ and I am the son of Thor. I am merely honering my ancestors, whilst you peasents worship a dead Jew. You cannot match my intelligence.
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>>130261379
>muh being white
>muh heritage
>muh tradition
yes goyim, these are very bad
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>>130261379
The word is getting overused and lost its meaning. According to that everybody's larping as something he considers himself to be.
I am sure no one here dresses in ancient robes and pretends he lives in the time of his ancestors.
I take spirituality seriousy
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>>130260965
>we even have a word biti v sorodu "to be related by blood"

everyone has that word you retard
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>>130261849
Kek you've missed the point genius
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No it's the shitty pointless thread again...the daily bot
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"Odin is known as Hermes in the Greek tradition, Mercury in the Roman tradition, andRudra/Shiva in the Vedic tradition"

Stop worshiping poo in loo
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>>130258870
where exactly in the pagan theology are you not allowed to mix races? i've never really heard of it. i think a lot of people apply national socialism to paganism but it sounds to be like the early pagans weren't opposed to dating outside the tribes. the vikings and romans certainly did plenty of that.
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>>130258870
Faulty generalization. At best, Christians are okay with other races, just out of my personal experience, it seems like whites and hisonics in my area whom are Christian dislike race mixing. The only ones I've ever seen race mixing are Latinas with black men, or a white ghetto chick with a black man.
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>>130260965
i guess the debate over this point is, if the gods don't exist, then wouldn't it just be might makes right? i think that is much simpler than delving into these theological justifications for conquest.

furthermore, i'd argue why only go back one layer? didn't the earliest europeans worship the sun, moon, and animals? what about that worship? and then what of our hominid ancestors prior to that?
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>>130262421
Didn't you read the other guy's comment. It's so obvious that paganism rejects race mixing, everyone knows that derp.
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>>130262307
Who the fuck asked you for opinion you fucking chink? Gtfo
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>>130262611
does it though? it seems to me one could honor thor for instance, and not necessarily have to only date within their ethnic group.

there are pagans out there who take a liberal approach to theology, see for instance the Ásatrúarfélagið in Iceland, the largest pagan organization in Iceland, and quickly growing, their statement on race is this:

"We strongly oppose any attempt by individuals to use their association with the Ásatrúarfélagið of Iceland to promote attitudes, ideologies and practices rejected by the leadership of the Ásatrúarfélagið. We particularly reject the use of Ásatrú as a justification for supremacy ideology, militarism and animal sacrifice."

https://asatru.is/statement

so it seems to me that organized paganism would have the same issue as christianity. i feel many national socialists on this board apply their politics to paganism rather than taking it for what it is. just as liberals have done to christianity or buddhism.
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>>130259175
Nice.

>blue pill: Romans 15:27

>redpill: Havamal 84, and the fact Grey Goose laws had to stop women from fighting because they were too badass.
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>>130262462
I'm not claiming chr is encouraging racemixing, it's just not opposing it. And that's not enough for me
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>>130262713
Must be nice worshiping
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>>130262981
tell me, how did viking DNA spread all over europe and into the north american genome if odin forbid race mixing? the problem is you cannot point to the source outside of Alfred Rosenberg that the old religions forbade it.

you are applying your ideology to the religion rather than taking it for what it is. furthermore, if you had your own DNA tested, you'd probably see you are composed of many peoples. the DNA of europeans has not remained static over the past 2,000 years. conquests have continually changed it, and as movement of people goes freer, it will continue.
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>A single god with multiple aspects that exist separately yet simultaneously as one.

Pagans are bro tier, they just miss the forest for the trees.
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>>130263094
>implying ancient societies weren't the most racist
>implying Paganism isn't the most kin-friendly theology
>implying just because we had ancestors thousands of years ago that MAY have mixed with outsiders, we should be doing it constantly
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>>130262890
>We particularly reject the use of Ásatrú as a justification for supremacy ideology, militarism and animal sacrifice."
That's disgusting. Apparently they're having this scandi complex where everything even remotely nationalist is considered evil.
The founder of Ásatru was clear on the topic of race: it does matter. We are a continuum of the spirit of specific people and place Europe. We look alike, we think alike, we trust eachother more than others
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>>130263167
>Pagans are bro tier, they just miss the forest for the trees.
Kek you might be right bro
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>>130262583
To answer the second part, European pagan heritage has many layers. It is obvuous some stories and perceptions are older than others. In ancient times concepts were incorporated into the dominant traditions and the older died off because they were not relevant anymore.
For instance we in Slovenia have an ancient tradition of snake cult, it is way older than the Slavic tradition. Yet the cult of the white snake has some Slavic elements.
It was the religions, monotheism that is preoccupied with theological purity of a thought
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>>130263357
Well put.
>>130263480
Of course most of them did. Rome suffered economic issues because of deflation due to the silk trade with China. Migrations were constant, especially from east to west.

And leftists are already trying to hijack it. It's mostly just wiccan off shoots though, the kind who pretend they "work" with the Gods. And when they say Gods, they do mean ALL Gods, so they aren't Pagans traditionally and they definitely aren't Heathens-although they'll be more than happy to tell others how to think and worship.

Englishmen are the absolute worst example. The original tribes that came to England came across Doggerland, when Britain used to be a peninsula. They remained isolated until boats meant that the Germanic peoples could regularly migrate, trade, raid, etc. The Romans would eventually seize the southern half, before then the peoples of the isles were entirely Celt-Germanic. They were one of two haplogroups, and genetically closer to Germanics.

When we're talking about race, we are talking about very specific gene groups. Haplogroups is the most common reference, but some do get more specific than that-not there's much reason to for health or anything else. The problem now is that ALL of the European haplogroups are in danger of disappearing over the next to centuries, barring war. Including any catastrophes like war, further migration, and economic collapse-well, it's hard to say how long we have left.
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>>130263167
All gods, even your christ god, bow to Ananke.
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>>130263480
I don't think they were essentially racist, their kin was sacred like I said before.
I can't answer you why Vikings disregarded this, maybe some Germanic anon could enlighten us.
I am sure they went against their tradition here, the question is how did they justify it.
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>>130260439
Not a single one of those "people" has put some serious effort in those pictures.

What are you trying to prove here?

I think you grossly misunderstand the whole idea.
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>>130264035
Praise ananke then, or kek, or whatever the fuck then lol. Belief in anything requires more intellectual honestly than the mental gymnastics of a fedora tipper's belief in a non-existing existence and "heat death" of inanimate matter.
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>>130261063
to be honest I am about 130-140
you god forsaken idiot.

>>130261473
there is no IQ so high
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>>130263167
>pagans are brotier
lol no, as long as a person believes that the state of being alive gives you any rights. There is no way you are allright.
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>EUROPE IS PAGAN
>literally all modern european cultures are 100% based on Christianity plus pre-existing cultural practices
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I prefer the creativity movement
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>>130265301
>burger education
I am not surprised
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>>130260816
No one can take you seriously now.
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>>130265275
>lol no, as long as a person believes that the state of being alive gives you any rights. There is no way you are allright.

I've read this about 10 times and I don't understand what you meant by this germanbro.
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>religion
This is the first problem
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>>130265830
A belief system is way too loose to be called religion.
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>>130257790
LMAO what a bunch of FAGShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71swxdSzY1w
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>>130257790
we wuz wotan and shiz
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>>130265950
Now that's what I call LARPing
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>>130265776
The following statement is wrong

"If something lives, it deserves well treatment unless it does X"
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>>130266563
fixed for you nigger from a 3rd world irrelevant shithole
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>>130257790
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>>130266633
Christianity is dying and you only have yourself to blame.
The question is what will replace it? Fedoras and Islam are on the rise in whitelands. I choose the only true white heritage.
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>>130266732
>35 said atheist
gimme their IPs
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>>130266563
"Muh den of vipers"
"Muh pharisees"

>mfw I'm a catholic
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>>130257790

Semite religions fear pagans more than cuckservatives
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>>130266732
Well done christcucks, I am surprised paganism did that well tho
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>>130257790
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>>130257790
No, it's not.
Pagans died out a long time ago as they lost everywhere to glorious Christians.
Modern day pagans are just LARPing about something they don't even understand. Fucking autists.
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>>130267092
also rapes
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>>130267129
only you shitskin
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>>130267260
We all are, don't fool yourself.
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>>130267160
Ahmed died and went to heaven and was greeted by Saint Peter.
"Come in, my son", Peter said.
"No!", replied Ahmed, "I must first meet Allah!"
"Ohh, Allah! He's upstairs."
Ahmed smiles and goes upstairs where he meets Jesus.
"Come in, my son", Jesus said.
"No!", replied Ahmed, "I can't come into heaven without meeting Allah first".
"Very well. Allah is at the highest floor."
"Of course he is!" Ahmed smiles again and goes upstairs, to the highest floor.
There he meets God himself! And asks
"Where is Allah? I must meet him!"
God replies, "He's currently busy. Why don't you rest here with me and drink some tea?"
"Oh. Well, why not", said Ahmed.
"Excellent!", said God and clapped his hands, then shouted loudly. "ALLAH! Bring two cups of tea here!"
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>>130257790
how retarded u need to be to prefer some piece of shit desert jewish religon over european paganism
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>>130257790
LARP the thread
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>>130267792
Because muh 2000y of tradition
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>>130257790
So what do you guys think of the new God of War game coming out where Kratos goes Norse?
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Helios, Sun of suns that shines high above me,
hear my prayer.
Great and powerful God,
I honor you this day and thank you for your gifts.
Sowilo, Helios, Sol Invictus, Suil, Svarog,
you who are known by many names.
You are the light over the crops,
the heat that warms the earth,
the hope that burns within me,
and the eternal bringer of life.
I welcome you and I honor you this day,
forever celebrating your light.
Give me the power to shine
amongst the darkest of hours,
Ignite your inferno of bravery
within my soul and may it never be quenched.
Teach me to be strong,
focused, and dedicated as you are.
Helios, Sun of suns, bringer of life, here my prayer.
Help me to better reflect your glorious light.
As I will it, so may it be.
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>Start thinking about Tyr, it's been a while since I last prayed/made an offering
>Yesterday I decide that I'll start making offerings again
>Every I went yesterday, people needed my help
>A little girl couldn't reach the tomato sauce lever in McDonald's, so I help her pour some into one of those little paper cups
>Polish lady asks for my help depositing cash in the bank for her son's guitar lessons, gave me her card, the money and a the letter from the music school saying that I looked like someone she could trust, even though I said I didn't work there
>Elderly lady in the queue didn't a deal, so I explained it to her and told her which item to swap for financial gains

Tyr is real, dawg.
Praise the Aesir and the Vanir.
Praise the ancestors.
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>>130268530
Slava Svarogu!

Is this from Rig Veda?
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>>130257790
True and those revolting Abrahamic wretches are still afraid of it, branding its symbols as "racist" whenever they pop up. Our ancestors weep at this subversion as we ignore all that that they've done for us. All the blood they spilt, all the tears they cried all the work they've done. We all take it for granted and we will pay dearly for dishonouring them.
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"{p. 261} These opponents of the Aryan onslaught, the despicable enemy who dares deny Perkwunos's supremacy in heaven and on earth, are referred to as the dasyus or dasas. They have black complexions, no noses to speak of (anasa), they are 'of unintelligible speech' and above all they are infidels. They have no 'rites', they are 'indifferent to the gods', they 'follow strange ordinances', they do not perform the Aryan sacrifices, and they probably worship the phallus. But they are wealthy, with great stores of gold, they are formed into groups or states, and they live in fortified strongholds."
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>>130260917
>f-fucking pagans s-stop larping!
>proceeds to post endless deus vult threads

New crusade any day now, christcuck
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>dude if only society was pagan everything would be perfect

lol fags
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Wolves of Vinland are pretty cool.
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defintion of literal larping, and I am a pagan.
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>Wotan, Wotan O Pilgrim Grey

>No more will you wander the green fields of this earth

>Your journey has ended in darkness.

>The bonds cut, the spirit broken

>The Flame of Wisdom has left this World

>A great light, extinguished.


>Wôþanaz, who once was...

>Sent by the Lords of the Sky

>To guard the lands of the West

>Wisest of all Gods

>What drove you to leave

>That which you loved?
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>>130269339
>doing something sincerely is larping

http://www.jack-donovan.com/axis/2017/05/waldgang/
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Paganism will save Europe and the Evropan man
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>>130257790

fucking christkikes just don't know

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugh
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>>130257790
>so many Christcucks in these threads
We need to start ignoring them, because 95% of these threads consist of their shitposts or the replies to them.

How are you all planning on celebrating Midsummer?
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Why haven't I seen an actual theological argument, or even info graph, in any pagan general on this board?

Give me actual proof, revelations, something. Tell me about the metaphysics of your worship, the transcendental nature of your rituals and sacrifices.

Blind faith is not good enough for myself, I actually need substance and study.
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I sang of leaves, of leaves of gold, and leaves of gold there grew:

Of wind i sang, a wind there came, and in the branches blew.

Beyond the Sun, beyond the Moon, the foam was on the Sea,

And by the strands of Sessrúmnir there grew a golden tree.

Beneath the stars of Ever-eve in Apollo's Hall it shown,

In Hyperborea beside the walls of Aryan Eridanos.

There long the golden leaves have grown upon the branching years,

While here beyond the Sundering Seas now fall the Even-tears.

O Freyja! The Winter comes, the bare and leafless Day;

The leaves are falling in the stream, the River flows away.

O Freyja! Too long I have dwelt upon this Hither Shore

And in a fading crown have twined the golden Orchid.

But if of ships I now should sing, what ship would come to me,

What ship would bear me ever back across so wide a Sea?
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>>130270364
You ask us of this, as if we're looking to convert you or anyone else.

Such is the wicked way of the Abrahamic religions, not of the Europeans.
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>>130257790
I'm more of a new age mystic than a traditionalist pagan, but like reading about the different pagan practices and tradition. I am more willing to believe in the afterlife and paranormal superpowers than gods. Most gods were probably aliens and demigods hybrids that were our ancestors.
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>>130270856
>I'm more of a new age mystic than a traditionalist pagan,

I dont get why you're even on pol, let alone a pagan thread.
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>>130270364
Look into something called the Extersteine, and look what a guy named Miguel Serrano has to say about it.
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>>130270709
I'm looking to understand your understanding of theology and how orthodox paganism (not that Wicca shit) solidifies itself as the "correct" worldview and/or religious belief.

If it's merely philosophical, no harm to me, but if it claims to be an actual religious expression than I would want to know how it comes to it's conclusion and how it explains man's existence and interactions with the worldly and divine.

And for the record, I'd never write anything out for being "absurd" like a great many Christians do without realizing that the Church fathers document mythical beasts like centaurs and fairies as being real creatures that interact with man.
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>>130257790
If Thor or Odin were real, I would happily meet them in the spiritual planes. Same with Jesus. Man always fucks up talk about deities. Everyone has different spiritual experiences and coming up with a single way to do it is futility.
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>>130257860
This
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>>130257860
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>>130270936
Why shouldn't I be? I am just spiritual. I read a lot of /x/ tier books but am still interested in political happenings.
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>>130262890
>does it though? it seems to me one could honor thor for instance, and not necessarily have to only date within their ethnic group.

The reason many pagans are pagan is to form some kind of connection with our ancestors, people who looked like us, spoke an older version of our language and shared customs that many of ours evolved from. It is a celebration of white identity and cultural values of honor, dignity, pride and self sacrifice. Anyone who would throw that heritage away and still worship the gods of their ancestors really is a larper who's reasoning is simply "jesus lame thor cool"
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>>130270936
Some of your NatSoc heroes were new age mystics too. They belonged to Thule society and other predecessors to the new age movements.
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Our love for this land

Is deeper than the deeps

Of the sea.

Our regret is undying

Yet we will cast all away

Rather than submit.

What should be shall be.
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>>130270997
Any work by Serrano specifically about that site?
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There's some good Pagan musicians on /pol/
So share stuff, if you will
I like Pagan music
Not so much commercial Amon Amarth stuff, but I'm open minded
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WE WUZ VIKANGS AND SHIET
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>>130271388

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP_hlpbBjE8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v-I0d_EKn0
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>>130271451
Please stay out of our threads if you dont actually want to participate in discussion
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Here's your proud example of the Aryan race right here, nigger, have fun living as a mongrel in denial.
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>>130270793
Thanks for your input anon
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>>130271388
https://youtu.be/zbT8vzX4sZY?t=182 (best version of it from him, the song starts after like 3 min
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>>130271451
WE WUZ JEWS AND SHIET
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>>130271644

Are you saying pagans can't be friends with colored people? Thats silly.
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>>130271388
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy44ocuoWhE
semi-pagan
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>>130271766
You shouldn't.
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>>130271878
Semi-pagan?

Singing about trolls, which shouldn't exist in Christianity
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>>130271878
this song is anti-pagan. I can read Swedish, and this is basically saying a pagan woman tries to marry a christian knight, and describes the pagan woman as a troll.
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>>130270364
What argument do you want? The gods of pagan faiths are inherently human, they represent that as above, so below and are just as flawed and capricious as humans are. All the fickleness of jesus cursing fig trees but none of the strict adherence to the notions of omnipotence of omniscience.

If you want to cache it in terms of theology, it sidesteps the tangle of arguments that stem from the requirements that gods must be benevolent and omnipotent. It also allows re-casting as the notion that the gods themselves were once human, and that through achievement one can achieve the effective immortality of memory.
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https://youtu.be/P5sUhxxpnbw
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>>130272008
It's a folk song with Pagan roots, not Christian.
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>>130271997
Yes but its about a troll wanting to marry a Christian man which rejects her because she's a heathen.
>>130272008
yes I can read Swedish too, it got loads of pre-christian themes so I'd say its quite pagan
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>>130271997
The woman isn't a literal troll. Just a non-christian woman trying to marry a knight.
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>>130272239
Ok, let's put it another way; Do you think modern Christian would listen to this song and think it was Christian? The foundation of the song is pagan. The Christian is a cuck that rejects his nature as a Norseman.

>>130272241
Troll = Witch/magical beast etc. in Norse and Scandinavian language. Trolldom = Magic
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>>130271388

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tLn-h5lNV0
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>>130262307
Source: Your ass
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>>130272475
It can be interpreted in both ways. Most people would probably feel for the troll but yeah it also got connections to the temptation of Christ whereas the man is tempted with all these things if he marries this troll.

And yes it got alot of Pagan and folklore in it, everything got that in Sweden though.

Most people in Sweden says "Gods" instead of "God" when talking about some divine power too but I wouldn't say they're pagans because of it.
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>>130272867
Indo-European religion have the same origins. "We" are not worshipping their Gods, but rather the same Gods (with different names and stories depending on the geographical location/culture)
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>>130273064
There is no evidence for it, that is just historical revisionism trying to create a common pantheon out of different patheons. Greek and Roman Gods were quite different to Norse Gods for example, and the worlds described by the traditions was very different.
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>>130272750
that is a nice pic
>>130262307
This is true, unfortunately the Indians have moved too far away from the Vedic tradition, even though Hinduism in many ways are a Indo-European religion.
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>>130273120
There is an entire fucking scientific field devoted to it.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_religion

They all stem from the same Proto-Indo-European pantheon.
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>>130273239
>Although this belief system is not directly attested, it has been reconstructed by scholars of comparative mythology based on the similarities in the belief systems of various Indo-European peoples.
It even says there is no evidence for it and it is just projection, trying to make things fit together.
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>>130273120
>>130273239
>>130273304
It's heavily implied. There is no reason to think otherwise.
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>>130273358
The reason to think otherwise is that the pantheons are different, the stories are different and the organisation of the pantheons are also very different. There is no split of the Gods in Greek pantheon for example as they are all Olympian, while in the Norse pantheon there are two groups of Gods plus the 7 worlds or realms. The Norse also have nothing like the generational overthrow seen with the Olympians, Titans and their parents.
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>>130273304
Are you stupid? It's reconstructed, obviously there will be no "evidence" for it since there are no written records of the proto-indo-europeans
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>>130273501
It is a reconstruction based on a belief of common origin, without evidence for it.
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>>130260439
Depends on the exact "religion" (not the proper term, but the english language doesn't have a better one). germanic and norse traditions do not have any problem with immigratin or "racemixing", some others, for example some kinds of neodruidism or asatru are completely against it. The ones against it are normally pretty recent (last 50 years), since mass -mmigration wasn't a problem back in the dark ages.
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>>130273517
the germanics and the hellenics have been seperated for thousands of years. Of course they will be slightly different.
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>>130273487
>There is no split of the Gods in Greek pantheon for example as they are all Olympian
There are more than 12 Gods in Greek Mythology. Not all of them are Olympians you know.

Anyway the fact that the mythologies diverged after thousands of year of being apart of forming their own cultural basis isn't any evidence against them being from a comon proto-indo-european pantheon
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"Woden"
Is it a German W or an English W?
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>>130273487
>the pantheons are different
They developed seperately for a long time.

>the stories are different
Again, it traveled a different journey and developed seperately.

>There is no split of the Gods
This split is because the Æsir (Indo-European Gods) wasn't the original set of Gods here. The Vanir was the first. They do reflect each other still though, so the Vanir probably had the same origins as the Æsir before they spread to the rest of Europe from where they originated (probably today's Ukraine/Southern Russia).

>generational overthrow
What is this?

>Titans
Titans = Vanir
Olympians = Æsir
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>>130273770
I think English
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>>130273517
Here you go with this fucking "evidence" shit again, do you even understand how the compartive method works?

I guess you don't believe in any of the ideas of different languages have a common ancestor? Since the comparitive method is just bullshit and reconstructing languages to find a common root is impossible.

>https://www.revolvy.com/topic/Proto-Indo-European%20religion&item_type=topic

kill yourself
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>>130273702
>There are more than 12 Gods in Greek Mythology. Not all of them are Olympians you know.
More than 12, 12 is just the core.
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>>130273898
Ok, thank you
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>>130273859
>generational overthrow
>What is this?
Titans were birthed from the two original beings, who the Titans then killed them, and then the Titans children overthrew them, who became the Olympian Gods. In Greek mythology there were generational overthrowings.
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>>130267116
Bullshit.
German paganism is historically proven until around 1800 (For example there are gravehills as late as 1600, people refering to themselves as Einherer or Followers of the wild hunt until the napoleonic wars), so-called Neopaganism started around 50 years later. Do you really think it completely disappeared in those 50 years only to be immediately replaced by Larpers in dozens of places at once?
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>>130273770
Wotan and its proto-germanic form, Wôþanaz, are both said with the German W. The Anglo-Saxon Woden is pronounced with the english W.
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>>130274025
/ˈwoːden/
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>>130260439
Stop, these aren't real pagans
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>>130274060
>generational overthrow
That is what happened in Norse mythology too. The first got killed and overthrown by later generations.
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>>130274060
Ah ha. In Norse mythology the Vanir and Æsir live peacefully together, but have a history of fighting.

You don't see the clear historical paralell though? You know that the Bronze age spread together with Indo-European language and culture from the same place (Around Eastern-Ukraine).

A new set of Gods conquering/replacing/settling in the lands of an old set of Gods. It would make sense if that in Greece the Indo-Europeans conquered (Replaced the old Gods) while in Scandinavia they mainly just settled (sparsely populated, very backwards technologically), while carrying a much more advanced culture/technology.
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>>130267052
Automatically assume that the christcucks would fracture and fight among themselves if you split Christianity in subgroups and left paganism the way it is.
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>>130270364
You won't have much luck with that.

Pretty much all pagans I've ever met were in some way prohibited from speaking of the details of their faith. Some traditions even put the death penalty on admitting that you are pagan.

As for proof: As I said, none of us speak openly about the old ways. Neither do we go out and attempt to convince others. Yet still, every now and then peope will just randomly walk up to one of us, say the traditional passwrds and as to join us.

One example that happened to me: I'd just moved from southern to western germany and knew nobody in the area. Neither did anybody know that I was pagan.
During a fistfight at school I took a brass knuckle from some kid and figured that since it wouls be illegal to keep it I might as well sacrifice it, so I went into the woods to a hidden spring in the middle of the night, melted it up and poured the molten metal in. Just when I was done some small kid of about 5 years showed up and asked if I was the one who called him there and proceeds to state the passphrase. Turns out he had dreamed of a one armed man telling him to go there, tell the person he met those words and become a warrior.

What are the chances of this happening by chance?
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>>130274992
That's pretty dann cool
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>>130271166
This 100%
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I want to learn more anyone have good reading material on this subject thatisnt jewified trash?
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>>130267945
thx
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>>130275577
What is wrong with Wikipedia if you trace the sources?

Also;
Thulean Perspective and Survive the Jive provide good material.
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>>130273120
There are many similarities between the religions of the Greeks, The Romans, the Vikings, The Hindus, and the Baltic peoples. While the names each group gave its deities are quite different, it is clear tha many of the gods and goddesses are really the same in function and often, also, in character.

For example: Laima is a Baltic goddess of fate. She was associated with childbirth, marriage, and death; she was also the patron of pregnant women. Laima and her functions are similar to the Hindu goddess Lakshmi.

In the Latvian mythology, Laima and her sisters, Kārta and Dēkla, were a trinity of fate deities, similar to the Norse Norns or the Greek Moirai. Laima makes the final decision on individual's fate and is considerably more popular. While all three of them had similar functions, Laima is Goddess of luck and is more related with mothers and childbirth, Dēkla is in charge of children, and Kārta holds power over the adult's life. Birth rituals at the end of the 19th century included offerings of hen, sheep, towels or other woven materials to Laima. Only women could participate in the ritual, performed in a sauna (pirtis).

In the Lithuanian mythology, Laima (fate, destiny) is often confused with Laimė (good fortune) and Laumė (fairy). Other related deities include Dalia (fate) and Giltinė (The Reaper). One of the most important duties of Laima is to prophesy (Lithuanian: lemti) how the life of a newborn will take place. Sometimes there was only one Laima, while in other cases three laimas would give often contradictory predictions. The final pronouncement would be irrevocable and not even Laima herself could change it.

this concept of three fate goddesses is well-established in European religions (e.g. Greek Moirai).
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>>130257790

I wanna say, I was insecure about whether or not I was truly European and was worthy of Paganism and a few people in a previous /pol/ paganism thread told me I was and probably had Roman heritage, so I want to thank you all.
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>>130275577
To be honest, I do not read anything on the subject. I read works from European philosophers like Nietzsche and let the Gods talk to me. This means I give room for them to influence my life.
This means I obey to Strength and Wisdom as much as I can.
Witch means I train, think and dont do any degenerate stuff like alc, porn drugs or whatever. I allmost never mastrubate etc. etc.

Simply leave out stuff that makes you weak and do more stuff that makes you srong. Dont go after weakling desires like whores, or whatever. Every action you do must increase your powerlevel so to speak.
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>>130257790
i really dont think by making these threads youre going to convert anyone
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>>130276127
good
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>>130276127
It's not about converting, but about Europeans finding themselves and discovering their heritage.
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>>130259175
>>130260917
How can you practice a religion you know nothing about? There are no records of ancient Slavic religion. The majority of those come from Russian sources, but it is heavily implied that every tribe had its own take on it, with unique sets of beliefs. Besides that, Russians were heavily influenced by the Norse, so what is true for a Russian isn't necessarily true for other Slavic tribes.
The other problem with Slavic paganism is that the "research" often tried to reinvent the belief systems, rather than restore or reconstruct them. So a lot of what is assumed are actually wild speculations, e.g. the assumed existence of Belobog which was based solely on the existence of Chernobog. Namely, there are no clues that any such deity existed, but the researchers assumed that since there was Chernobog, there also had to be some counter deity and they named it Belobog. They actually invented it and called it a fact.
The only way we can glimpse anything of our original religion is through folklore and religious practices which obviously have nothing to do with Christianity, those that were assimilated by the church to make the transition to Christianity more palatable to the common folk. But that is nowhere near enough to base a religion on. I am sorry to say, but Slavic paganism is long dead, and I'm afraid there's nothing we can do to revive it. Any attempt to do so would be unfounded on any kind of coherent system and would ultimately be just larping.
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>>130262307
no

hermes is a fuccboi and the little brother of apollo, he has no relation whatsoever with odin

zeus is like odin because they both use thunder to smite their enemies

anyway you people are fucking retarded, might as well worship spiderman at this point
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>>130276324
i thought you guys wanted more people to be pagans though?
>>130276551
while i do accept that some of you guys arent so bad, what do you say about the big pagan groups that are LARP tier and just embarrasing?
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>>130276560
>ultimately be just larping.
No it wouldn't. It would be you worshipping your people and the nature around you, searching for your heritage.
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>>130276600
Do you recognize the common source of IE languages? Like if you compare Sanskrit, Greek, English, Slavic, Latin words for numbers?
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>>130274992

There are special passphrases? what?

Fuck man I wanna learn more about Paganism. I'm Portuguese and I strongly suspect I have arabic roots, but I posted my pictures before and you pagans said I was white anyways overall and to think about worshipping the Roman Pantheon.
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>>130276823
>LARP tier and just embarrasing?
What do you say about all the Churches that shelters non-White "refugees" and in general promote multiculturalism and mass immigration?

Being a Pagan is rare, so a lot of pretentious people flock to it. People that want to be "Geeks" or want to be "Strange" because of whatever. Just like a lot of "strange" people are overrepresented among Nazis or Communists - people that either want to be strange or don't care about social pressure and follows what they truly believe in.
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>>130276600

Greek Zeus is a rendition of the Indo-European Sky Father (Sanskrit Dyaus, Latin Deus, Lithuanian Dievas, Latvian Dievs, Prussian Deiws).

His name means both 'god" and "heaven', and as such he may once have been regarded as creator of the world as well as god of light.
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>>130277149
>I strongly suspect I have arabic roots
Why?

Do you have some pinkish colour in your skin? Can be hard to see if you are tanned.
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>>130276827
That is all good and well, but it is not a religion. Religion is a system with established beliefs and practices. If you don't have access to those, you can't claim that you practice a religion.
By all means, go into the woods and do whatever you think you should do, but until we have fully regained the knowledge about our religions, all that is just make-believe.
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>>130277336
Well, I look like this and my grandfather is from Alentejo

I CAN see my veins and the green in them. My skin is like so.
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>>130277366
Nobody claims to be religious here. It's a belief system: a collection of moral stories, gods being representations of ideals, there is a destinct European narrative behind that.

I'm not trying to be 100% like my ancestors. I take their world view and incorporate it into the present world.
Close to >>130275941
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>>130277366
From Wiki:
"Religion is any cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, world views, texts, sanctified places, ethics, or organizations, that relate humanity to the supernatural or transcendental. Religions relate humanity to what anthropologist Clifford Geertz has referred to as a cosmic "order of existence".[1]

>Religion is a system with established beliefs and practices
What if Norse mythology never were unified in an established belief system/practices, the way the Abrahamic religions are?

If it's not a religion, I don't care. Why does it matter? Rather pray to a dead Jew on a stick?
THIS is LARPing. Believing in something just because you want to believe in something.
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Why are you losers still worshiping Gods who got cucked by the one true God ????
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>>130277477
>orange juice
nigger
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>>130277477
Extremely dark brown near black hair is worse than having brown eyes in terms.of "not being white".
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noice treada
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>>130277661

Orange juice is great

>>130277662

I mean Hitler had black hair. There are even Scottish people with Black hair. Black hair appears in every place on earth, it's not an exclusively black feature or whatever. Also, my father has blue eyes and so do his parents etc. I got fucking cucked by my curly haired, brown eyed mother.
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>>130277477
It seems like you have some light in your hair, and you say that your father has blue eyes. However your skin is pretty dark - do you stay outside a lot? You do also have an Iberian facial structure (white).

I would assume that you have some non-European (somewhat above the average) in you, but you are still for the most part European. It wouldn't make sense for you to worship the religion of anything else than the vast majority of your ancestors.
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>>130277975

My father has blue eyes and my grandmother is blonde with blue eyes. the vast majority of my family is from the deep north of Portugal but I have ONE grandfather from the south that probably completely fucked me up. My sister is pale with dark-blonde hair and green eyes, so I think I was just extremely unlucky with genetic recombination.

I really want to do a genetic test, but everyone says 23andme is a kike scam, but no one on /pol/ has provided a credible alternative yet.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btD0Ikf2zH8
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>>130257790
Paganism has no moral code. It has nothing to say about homosexuals, and promiscuity, and personal hedonism. It can't save the west, because it's literally the religion of nomadic opportunists. Meanwhile, Islam virtually mandates polygamy, and childbearing, and social cohesion.

When Europe lost its Christianity, it lost it's identity, and purpose. You don't believe in yourselves anymore. You know that your way of life is cheap and meaningless and empty. So you won't fight for anything, because it isn't even worth it; and you don't have anything left to fight for.

The only people who support paganism are the morbidly obese misfits and dregs of society. Neo-paganism is the great fedora migration. You've got that crowd now. And, you don't even know anything about authentic Pagan practices because they were wiped out. You're practicing a cringey, LARP reconstruction of something that nobody even knows the true nature of anymore.

Europe needs a source of moral authority and grounding in order to recover its identity and find its balls. Paganism is incapable of providing that,
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>>130278104
I would relax If I were you. I know one family where all of the siblings are dirty/light blond and blue eyed (3) except one, that has green eyes and really dark hair and skin (not too far away from what you have), because 1 Jewish Great Great Grandparent (that also probably were more European than Semitic).
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>>130277975
>>130278309


And that was a picture that was taken during summer. I try to put sunscreen on every time I go outside. I'm also looking into skin bleaching and I'm going to sign up for experimental eye laser surgery to destroy the melanin in my eyes.


And yeah, I was just really fucking unlucky with my genetic recombination. It sucks though, because walking around Europe, no one thinks I'm white. I often get asked if I'm half black, or an arab, or a latin american. It makes me feel like I don't belong in my own homeland and makes me second guess my heritage.
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>>130278447
>I try to put sunscreen on every time I go outside.
Don't do that if you don't get burned. It's natural that Iberians are darker because more sun.

>I'm also looking into skin bleaching and I'm going to sign up for experimental eye laser surgery to destroy the melanin in my eyes.
Don't.

>And yeah, I was just really fucking unlucky with my genetic recombination.
Only what is shown on the outside though, the vast majority of your genetic code is European. I wouldn't care too much about.
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>>130277477
lel calm down you look like an average portuguese

now go find yourself your lares
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>>130257790

Google "pagan meetup" and go to images. It's all feminized, teen-witch, bubblegum bullshit. Modern paganism is a LARP recreation aimed at girls, aged 14-21, and bored soccer moms who want to put crystals and sprigs of spice on their kitchen counters to feel like they're "casting spells."
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>>130278447
You can say that maybe around 10% of the Norwegians (that is considered Norwegian by anyone) carry quite some Sami 5-10% (Mongolian) DNA.

Does that mean that they shouldn't worship their heritage (mostly European)?
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>>130278897
Why do you picture the average Christian as white? Most Christians are in Africa. Black as coal.
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>>130278845
You first mistake was googling pagan meetups
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>>130270856
what powers do you have
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>>130278841

So the Portuguese should worship the Roman pantheon? I knew the Lusitanians were celtic, but barely anyone in Portugal except the transmontanos classify as celts
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>>130260816
well, yeah, the only difference is one of the pictures happened over 2000 years ago.
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I don't believe in any deity, but why do "Pagans" refer to themselves as "Pagans"? Isn't that a kike word used to describe non-kikes?
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>>130279248
Oh, right... because you know where the viking conquerors drink their mead. My point is that paganism is teen-witch roleplay. It's actually more feminized than the most degenerate, liberal church in Manhattan. It's not a network of strong identarian people who want to fight and suffer. It's a network of cowardly, autistic, obese, pacifists who would rather be beheaded than engage in open conflict.
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>>130279379
Being a retard on a Laotian Noodle Soup Enthusiast Igloo is a superpower right?
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>>130279533
>It's a network of cowardly, autistic, obese, pacifists

So... /pol/ then?
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>>130279608
lol, yea. Pretty much.
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Wonder where the praise kek faggots went when leddit appropriated the meme? They are pagan larpers now. They are also the same atheists from the early 10s
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>>130279533
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>>130279788
Ding ding ding

>>130279732
Let's not kid ourselves this is /x/ with a political angle, everyone here is a LARPer more or less.
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>>130279820
Yea, no argument there. Christianity has been absolutely gutted. What I AM arguing is that paganism offers no replacement to what's been lost.
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>>130280171
Everything we have now is due to the Age of Enlightenment. LARPing as a pagan/atheist/christian won't change that
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>>130280171
>What I AM arguing is that paganism offers no replacement to what's been lost.
It offers nothing because?

So we should rather pray to a dead Jew on a stick? I don't see your logic here.
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>>130281277
There's a reason those religions faded got replaced by he dead Jew on a stick one. Maybe read into it anon
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>>130281374
mudslimes not welcome here
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>>130281627
Unlike in Russia, where they're so welcome it's illegal to criticize them.
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>>130281374
I have. Christianity is a poisonous snake. Not better, not superior. There are many factors that made Christianity manage to convert Europe.

It doesn't mean we should worship a Jewih desert religion though. Not at all.
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Answer me this Christians

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>>130282205
>Not better, not superior

Oh, it was clearly superior the way it wiped every other religion in Europe a couple of centuries after it became the state religion in Rome.
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>>130282420
filthy arabs stole numbers from our Indian brothers
ridiculous
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>>130282367
Is the poisonous snake poisoning a sleeping man, superior to the man?
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>>130282632
>Indian brothers
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>>130282653
That's absurd. The pagans fought tooth and nail, still lost like a bunch of bitches. Diocletian was persecuting Christians and feeding them to fucking lions and inside a generation Constantine was paying lip service to them. That's superiority anon, no matter how you wanna spin it.
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>>130265301
Actually not. Not in the Scandinavian countries. Christianity never really got a strong enough hold on us and we still kept our Nordic traditions.
The most famous is Yule. Or Jul as we call it. You may know it as Christmas.
We kept the name, we celebrate it more like Yule was celebrated than how the rest of the world celebrates Christmas.
And it's not even Jesus birthday. We have gotten the whole world to celebrate a pagan tradition dressed as Jesus birthday.
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>"white people need to work together, we are all brothers and sisters!"
>pagan thread comes up
>Christians celebrating how they managed to kill more white people than their pagan contemporaries
>suddenly quoting Jews and omitting the accomplishments of pagan Europe
>"oyveyus gevalt"

Man honestly Christians make a fool out of themselves at every opportunity. Not to mention their obnoxious attitude towards god and their Semitic conception of good and evil. It's no wonder why people have just given up on Christianity as an institution. You've failed in every conceivable way. Your only glories were maybe the crusades and that's about it. Europe has suffered your eastern death cult long enough. Begone.
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>>130283037
That is wrong on so many levels you got really close to giving me an aneurysm.
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>>130283175
Well. I'm Nordic and know my traditions. And you are not.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule
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>>130283397
So everyone is celebrating Christmas on the 25th of December because a small number of Nordic pagans that converted 5-6 centuries after everyone else tricked Christianity into adopting their celebration as Christmas, even though Saint Clement wrote in the late 2nd century about celebrating it on the night of2/25 of December? Man, on how many levels of irony are you on?
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>>130282904
>The pagans fought tooth and nail
No they didn't. Christianity came out on top through subversion, not conquest (mainly) for several reasons in the Roman Empire and indirectly the rest of Europe. Later with the strong Centralized Christian states you saw Crusades (Baltics) and some religious Conquests (Karl The Great), but Christianity was already the religion of the most powerful states then. The Norsemen converted slowly over time, with missionaries and Norsemen brining back Christianity, not conquest by outsiders.

>Diocletian was persecuting Christians and feeding them to fucking lions
And? Jews and Jewry shouldn't have come to Europe in the first place.

>That's superiority anon
I don't look at it that way. Not at all. It's simply just superior at it's element (deception, subversion etc.). The Roman Empire rose at it's heights with Roman Paganism, and fell to the ground with Semitic Christianity.

Isn't Jews in many ways superior at taking control over our societies without already being in the majority? Imagine Christianity spreading the same way.
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>>130283837
>Christianity came out on top through subversion
Stopped reading right there.
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>>130270364
because these threads are made by christians with brown skin
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>>130283619
Do you think it's a coincidence that literally all Christian holidays (at least the ones that isn't shared with Judaism if there are any), are at the same time as traditional European Pagan ones are?

The deceptive "Church of Rome" simply just replaced the Pagan holidays with Christian ones to stop Pagan celebrations. Christianity is literally Judaism altered to manage to take over Europe.

>small number of Nordic pagans
It's assumed that all Indo-Europeans celebrated the Sun turning.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzM5uJKAqUE
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>>130257790
Stop larping, Božo
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>>130283916
Then how did it happen?
Majority of the population of the Roman Empier were Pagan, when Constantine the cuck crafted Roman Christianity with a bunch of Rabbis (removing some desert practices while adding some European ones, the Semitic core of the religion remained).
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>>130257860
Only good ones are the symmetrical ones.
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>>130284490
Empire*
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>>130284490
>cuck
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>>130284630
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E126SkXrOA

Hallelujah, unto King Jesus!
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>>130258561
>thinking Christianity has been in Europe for 2000 years

wtf I hate history now
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>>130284794
Your half-assed knowledge of history and understanding of how humans work makes me think you're both autistic and kind of stupid.
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>>130284913
1950 years.
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>>130257790
The spirit of Europe is secular.
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>>130284913
Pretty close to that actually. Think about it, there were Christians in Rome when the New Testament was still being written. The book of Romans was written to the Romans.
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>>130283778
But that stave churches were built and invented during 12th century by scandinavian monks...
How the fuck was it pagan?
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>>130285123
There are Jews and other filth in Europe right now too. Pagans were a large majority in the Roman Empire around Constantine's time.
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>>130284947
Your worship of a dead Jew and the wicked religion that spawned out of it, makes me think you are an enemy of Europe.
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Atheists love phat cocks
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>>130283037
Halloween is pretty popular too if stupidly commercialised now. Here some of the more rabid Christians try to stop it but...
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>>130285219
Some argue that the Architecture/method/style was from Pagan times.
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I think everyone here can probably agree that Plato was a worthless piece of shit
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>>130285603
Not popular in the Nordic countries.
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>>130257790
heck off atheists
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>>130286066

why do i celebrate it every year then? its best day
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>>130286066
Talking about 'pagan' traditions in general, not just in Nordic countries.
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>>130282205
The Romans became degenerate as hell, that's why Christians replaced them so easily. Pagan Romans became atheists in all but name, they abandoned their own religion and had a low birth rate at a time when the Roman Christian population grew rapidly due to high birth rates and stronger communities. There was no subversion in this.
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>>130277542
>I'm not trying to be 100% like my ancestors
Exactly, we must take our ancestors creations and improve them, this is impossible if we simply copy it.

>Nobody claims to be religious here
But buddy, meditation, soul and the spirits of strength, blood, wisdom etc. are real beings. I really feel them from time to time
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>>130286331
>The Romans became degenerate as hell
The inbred sister-fucking elites? Yes. The average Roman Pagan? Nope.

>Pagan Romans became atheists in all but name
Source. It was very important for the military.

>low birth rate
Source

>There was no subversion in this.
>Minority, foreign religion manages to take control over the Roman state with no conquest
k
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>>130286756
>source
Read some of Will Durant's Story of Civilization, it at least more reliable that historical revisionist neopagan blogs
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>>130286331
If today's Europeans were to be "bred out" by Muslim immigrants, would that mean we should accept Islam?

It's not natural that people want to be replaced. Europe is being subverted today, just like it was when Christianity arrived from the same region.
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>>130286265
Ye. Just mentioning the difference between Germanic and Norse
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>>130286994
That is not a source. Give me a source to someone using a historical document or something that makes it credible.
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Happy solstice everybody. Its coming up
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>yeah man, paganism is the strong religion christianity needs!

>cuts down tree

>HEY WHY THE HECC DID YOU DO THAT FOR?

>wha- NO im not an atheist! Praise odin!
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>>130287214
European Paganism isn't opposed to cutting down trees?
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>>130257860
I never understood this "paganism unified european" meme.
When did pagans ever unite???

Romans waged countless wars against other european pagans such as greeks, celts, germanics, illyrians, thracians etc.
They were mass enslaving, genociding folk for hundred years... for fuck sakes roman genocided 40% celts in france...
There were always raids against each other tribes in name of gods and kings. Especially between gaelic and germanic wars on rhine which was recorded by romans.

>they weren't about religion and romans were tolerant to other pagans
Well... Romans had this very giant thing about subjugated people in where they had to acknowledge Emperor as Divine (as in God) or they would be severely punished (Just look how that worked for Judean Jews and why they waged war against Roman occupation)

Britannian Druids waged gigantic war against Romans for their gods, after they lost Romans for long time banned practices of druidism

Nordic Vikings were raiding baltics, slavs and finns for centuries and just as roman enslaving and killing them.
Rurik and his descendants actually were destroying Slavic pagan places of worship.

Germans and Picts fought giant campaigns against Romans to retain their Independence and hatred to romans. Most popular one was Battle of Teutoburg.
>How exactly was paganism unifying indo-european people????

When Christians came you can actually say they did try to unify europeans in a Christian identity.
There have been more communication now between europeans and alliances and friendship was forming between europeans because of Christianity.

For fuck sake even cuck Pope tried to stop european wars and let europeans as a whole focus their war on muslim shitskins invaders and not between themself.
Christian romans allied with christian Germans to defend the West from invaders Huns and their leader Attila on the Catalaunian Plains
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>>130287027
That's a whole other cup of tea friendo, but I also see the parallels with the Roman decline and the Muslim invasion. However, at least Christianity didn't breed out the natives in Europe, merely replaced them with some Christian members of the same tribe
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>>130258470

Pfft. It represents the tripartite structure of the the Indo-European soul and societal structure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGGejwE2XMM


https://www.counter-currents.com/2015/04/the-metaphysics-of-indo-european-tripartition-part-1/

https://www.counter-currents.com/2015/04/the-metaphysics-of-indo-european-tripartition-part-2/

I found it interesting how the below video ties this into modernity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK3ryrI8aXI

Paganism was a technical manual. I don't think its info was meant to be deified but was as a misstep on the part of humanity.
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>>130287509
>However, at least Christianity didn't breed out the natives in Europe
Which is alpha omega. However modern Christians are for the most part actually doing their best to keep our gates open though.
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>>130271388
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w137G9Ye1q8
Einar Selvik from Wardruna and Ivar Björnson from Enslaved
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>>130287125
I thought it was common knowledge, not my fault you learn everything from Thulean perspective. Here, some random thing I googled up
http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/123665/sec_id/123665
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>>130285219
>But that stave churches were built and invented during 12th century by scandinavian monks...How the fuck was it pagan?
That temple is over a thousand years older than that. It's petrified wood now and is located in Germany I think.
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A pagan calendar on a goat bone.

This one almost to my sides down.
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>>130287903
Sure, m8.
I just didn't hear any great pagan resistance against rapefugees yet.
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>>130287903
Modern Westerners are cucked as a whole, atheists and pagans included
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>>130287440
>When Christians came you can actually say they did try to unify europeans in a Christian identity.
Like Communists try to unify Europe through slash and burn of culture and history? Europe has been divided in Christian wars since the very beginning and that's where you get the fucking Nation borders you stupid fucking delusional race traitor MORON!

Even Rome fought East Rome over magic jew worship
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>>130288064
No, m8
Your mistaken...

Borgund stave church was built between 1180 and 1250 AD by christian monks...
Sorry to disappoint.

http://www.stavechurch.com/en/borgund/
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>>130257790

REMINDER

THIS IS NOT A JEW WORSHIP THREAD
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>>130288387
I didn't say european christians did not wage war against each other.

My original question was "when in history did pagans try to unify europeans?" such as that original meme was implying.
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>>130257790
Dont use the word pagan please, that is derogatory Christian propaganda term that was used to lump all non-christians back in the day under one word.
That's like niggers calling themselves slaves or non-Jews calling themselves goyim.
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>>130288505
That's not the same building at all. Look closer.

Also 1180 for your church would mean that the building was built during the time of Viking dominance. It even states that your church had rune inscriptions inside it.
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>>130288019
>I thought it was common knowledge
Well, it's not.

>not my fault you learn everything from Thulean perspective.
Dishonesty is a common trait among Christians

>http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/123665/sec_id/123665
Now this is something. I read through it and if the sources are solid you are indeed onto something. However the conclusions this Emmet Scott comes to is a bit rushed, based on this alone.
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>>130288148
How many vocal Pagans are there in Europe? It is growing.
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>>130288768
And my point is "unified" is some Commie EU talk. The only thing that ever came close was Napoleon (someone pagan Enlightenment dictator) and pagan Rome. Christianity was endless enslavement of the people in the form of "peasants vs monarch/lords" and the monarchies fighting.
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>>130288200
Christians and Atheists with Christian morals are cucked as a whole. Pagans with Pagan morals are not.
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>>130288785
Do you have any other idea what to call ourselves?
Pagan is short simple and efficient since all european religions are connected.
Its like saying that you are christian but you dont specify which kind of christian.
plus who the fuck cares?
Niggers call themselves niggas
so why cant ''heathens'' call temselves pagans?
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>>130289505
>Do you have any other idea what to call ourselves?
Aryan, Aristos, Aristocratic, Honor, Arie, Ire-land, Arya,

Aryan
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>>130289048
It actaully is, dude...
http://www.thousandwonders.net/Borgund+Stave+Church

Stave church used to be also as early musseums/preservation building and had a lot of materials from old pagan worship sites such as ruins.

Stave churchen were built during 11-12th century and there is a theory the layout of the churches is believed to have mimicked old Pagan temples in design and was possibly designed in order to adhere to old Norse cosmological beliefs.
So much for ebil christians...
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>>130289206
Good on you anon, glad you read it

>>130289419
What you mean by 'Christian morals' I suspect is the very same thing that Scheler called bourgeois morality
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>>130289321
>unified is some Commie EU talk
>but unless it's our pagan unification
xex...

>Napoleon was pagan
This is again some nigger tier wewuzian dogshit....
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>>130289978
Core:
>God before your family
>All equal before God
>The last shall be the first
>Born in sin
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>>130257917
why do we always have some asshole throwing having kids as the strength? dude we dont need to have children, we need to clone ourselves and be immortal fucking hell, cotton...
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>>130290180
>Love your neighbor more than yourself
>Turn the other cheek
>Jew/Israel worship
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>>130289804
You can play stupid if you want but it's a different building. You can see it with your own eyes. Even the graves are in different places.

>the churches is believed to have mimicked old Pagan temples in design
And that's why I posted an old pagan building.

>>130290071
Napoleon wasn't Christian. He was an Enlightened Dictator and philosophy is pure paganism.
You know nothing about the French Revolution do you?
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>>130290479
Hey fucker did u forget how psy op works? OBVIOUSLY U DINDU NUFFIN WONG

WHY POST GREEN TEXT WITHOUT EXPLAINATION?

ARE YOU TRYIN TO SUBLIME NIGGAS IN THINKIN U IS A NAZI N SHIIEET?!

YO NIGGA THIS NIGGA THINK HE A NAZI N SHIIET
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>>130290180
The way those ideas manifested in traditional Christiandom was totally different than in modern civilization, also the moderns mostly reject the last idea in favor of something like the Tabula Rasa (unless you want to bring up SJWs which would be another discussion in itself). If you're curious about our perspective (I mean uncucked tradional Christians) read Ressentment by Scheler, it isn't very long, only about a hundred pages, and it's pretty unbiased I think as Scheler wasn't even a Christian
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>>130275855
saved and checked
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>>130289978
And the low birth rates isn't a sign of Paganism leading that way, but rather the end stage of Civilizations. So it's not an argument in favour of Christianity, but rather against Civilization at least in such a centralized form as in the Roman Empire.

>>130290925
>Ressentment by Scheler
Will read. Thread is dead soon.
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>>130290925
This isn't your thread Jew worshiper. Stop shilling it like a fucking SJW
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