whats wrong with being a libertarian?

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>>130240208
Race issue and the JQ

>>130240208
Not even Natsoc LARPers live in as much of a fairy tale world as libertarians.

>>130240208
No Roads.

>>130240208
It's unsustainable with so many Marxist leeches running around subverting it. The age of liberty is rapidly nearing it's end. Let the age of order come.

>>130240208
>laissez-faire

>>130240208

Any tribal community (such as jews or mormons) would run rough shot over a libertarian community and then it would not be libertarian anymore because it would be conquered.

>>130240208
You're too soft.

>>130240208
Sam Seder destroys libertarians on his YouTube channel. Look it up

Libertarianism is one big paradox.

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>>130240208

>>130241761
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Unless you keep your society racially and culturally pure you cannot maintain a libertarian society

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>>130240208
What would libertarians do about white demographics? Certain political ideas are tied hand and hand with their survival.

>>130240208
I don't feel guilt for being master race.

>>130240597
i like nazis i dont agree with this quote though

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>>130240208
Not realizing that libertarianism is implicitly white, which means that by fighting against us (Nat Socs and Fascists) you are destroying yourselves.

>>130240302
Why are NatSocs such obnoxious faggots that they think getting rid of the constitution is the solution to our problems?

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>>130244429

The problem with libertarianism is that it teaches you how human beings should be able to act; however, when you reach that point you realize that humans will never be capable of reaching that without strong and guiding hands.

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>>130240208
There is little to no common ground with libertarians with any self-respecting white man as they are psychopathic Jews.

Libertarians don't care about morals.
Libertarians don't care about community.
Libertarians don't care about art.

All libertarians care about is their property. That's it. In their opinions, there should be no consideration of morality, no concern for the people, no value placed upon anything that does not profit them.

Libertarians argue using their own definitions. That they've learned with their own dictionaries, and they will slander you for not using their rhetoric. They will label anyone who doesn't agree with them as a "statist", which is nothing more than a strawman. And if you disagree with them on any point, for any reason, they will declare that surely you must carry all of these characteristics. This has happened every time anyone have tried to debate them.

Libertarians argue like Jews. They hide behind concepts that they refuse to define clearly, like "natural law" or "the non-aggression principle", and they constantly bring these up (while refusing to say what they actually mean) as a shield against any criticism. And they will constantly deny doing so. When proven wrong on something, inescapably, they will later declare that they remember winning the argument. In fact, they adhere so closely to Adolf Hitler's description of his experience debating with Jews, that it is almost uncanny, and it's really not surprising that so many of the most influential libertarian thinkers were Jewish themselves.

Libertarianism is a Jewish cancer that is diametrically opposed to the well being of the white race.

>>130245293
National Socialists are inherently anti-white because their actions always lead to more white deaths than if they did nothing at all.

>>130244997

Because they are all liberals and democrats who disguise themselves as "look at me i'm le undercover conservative nazi lol racist"

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>>130245160
I'm trying to prevent or soften this problem. I do think we'll probably end up balkanizing or changing discrimination laws to allow white only communities. This issue won't go away.

>>130244997
what they are saying is the constitution will be meaningless if your country is non-white

>>130240208
Because libertarians are always social outcasts, without exception. See OP pic

>>130240208
Nothing, People are just too indoctrinated to be able to think for them selves

>>130241761
In my opinion, early America is one of the closest examples to a purely Libertarian system that we can examine. And we kicked fucking ass, up until we started straying towards authoritarianism.

>>130240208
Nothing, except that it's lost all meaning thanks to dumb anarchists, commies, and moral policing whackos

>>130245445

LOL, what a bunch of fags in that pic... the boomers really were pieces of shit with their pride and civil rights jargon.

They fought for unions in the 70's and 80's then fought against unions once they obtained authority.

Glad they will be dying off soon.

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>>130245447
This. I think USA would be the best place ever if we were back to our historical 90%+ European heritage. We would be better off if we didn't sign the 1965 immigration act. In only 50 years you see Euro heritage go down to about 60% or less. They are the only one strongly for libertarian ideals among other things like free speech and gun rights. >>130244600

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnUmuajQROk

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Alright world *Clink* occult *Clink* libertarian *Clink* That's about all . . . peace out.

>>130245353
Those are some mighty fine mental gymnastics.

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>>130245745
They just didn't know how good they had it. They wanted to spread "freedom and democracy" like they have to the entire world....and allow the entire world to come for a piece of it regardless if they truly meant it.

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>>130245901

There are better ways... the past is dead, no sense in going back.

Because you morons don't give a fuck about maintaining order, so you lose your previous low taxes and free market regardless.

>>130245160
Glad you morons are so smug about it now that you've let it get this far. I know this is blasphemy to anyone to any libertarian, but have you ever thought of doing something for the community? Like having children?

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>>130246144
Yep let's worship costco, cheap gas, and diverse America!

>>130240208
Lolbertarians are like 94% white, statistically. They're too busy getting wrapped up in muh idealism, muh to smart for identity politics and it ends up effectively being civic nationalism. Lolbertarianism is the pacifistic sister ideology to liberalism that lets the slightly-less-PC self-proclaimed intellectuals rationalize not being liberals, but STILL BEING anti-white pussies.

>>130240208

If you allow people to do anything then they will do just about anything.

Degenerate behaviours have a knock-on effect and everyone in the society suffers as a result, people need the threat of Hobbes' leviathan to keep them in line.

>>130245889
>mental gymnastics
The ideology of National Socialism caused the deaths of millions of whites, but NatSocs still have the arrogance to claim they're "pro-white". The founding fathers, they were pro-white. They established a white ethno-state. If it wasn't for Hitler ruining nationalism, America would still be majority white today.

>>130246427
We don't even need a leviathan, just basic fucking order- good schools, border control, etc

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>>130245293
>Libertarians don't care about morals.
Just because I don't believe my specific moral views should be forced on everyone else, doesn't mean I don't care about morals.
>Libertarians don't care about community.
libertarians =/= individualists. I simply don't believe that the government should be able to coerce me into serving the state, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't do so on my own terms.
>Libertarians don't care about art.
How does wanting to be free from state-imposed coercion equate to not caring about art? Do you honestly believe that in order for art to exist the government needs to step in somewhere?

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>>130246528
Kikes killed nationalism and started this whole mess with Hitler anyway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6p1zxKnDeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZopZouX4Q8
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/09/24/sexual-decadence-weimar-germany/
http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/05/welcome-to-weimerica/

>>130244997

I support the constitution if it's implemented in the way the founding fathers intended, applying to free white men only.

Give consititutional and voting rights to women and minorities, you're on a one-way ticket to oblivion with no hope of achieving a libertarian society.

(i am a natsoc)

>>130246689
>star a war killing millions of whites because of jews
>pro-white

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>>130244600
>>130246363
These. You don't have to be a
>fucking LARPing stormfag race realist goosestepping nazi
to simply acknowledge that race matters in politics. Pic and link related

http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/28/political-ideology-in-america-by-race/

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>>130244459
>>130246427

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>>130246929
The solution is national transhumanism, allowing people to genetically turn themselves white. But I forsee NatSocs ruining this future by starting some bullshit civil war that delays technological progress.

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>>130247142
http://www.wsj.com/articles/places-most-unsettled-by-rapid-demographic-change-go-for-donald-trump-1478010940

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/09/trump-demographics-2016-election-republicans-can-win

>>130245353

That's like saying hirohito and his generals were agaisnt Japanese imperialism because the US invaded them and put a stop to it.

Nazis fought to the end to protect Europe, the allies destoyed it

>>130247455
Checked. Always archive those:

>https://theguardian com/us-news/2016/sep/09/trump-demographics-2016-election-republicans-can-win
https://archive.is/a3tXs

>>130245697

Up until you ruined your demographics with Hart-cellar.

Ideologies come and go, but demographics determine the ultimate destiny and potential of a nation

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>>130247455
really causes a libertarian to think

>>130247459
I'm a consequential. I care about results, not virtue signaling.

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>>130247459

What's the difference between being a libertarian and being ancap?

>>130247822
>ally with japan
>japan never attacks soviet union
>japan attacks usa
>germany declares war on usa
>whites die
>it's usa's fault

NatSocs are anti-white

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>>130247774
Pecan status: perturbed

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>>130247948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niiiHjIQu8s
USA was meddling far before Germany declared war on them.

>>130240208
the whole open borders cuckoldry

>open borders
>third world floods in
>vote in hard socialist left policies like everywhere
"at least I stood by my principles!"

>>130247897
>What's the difference between being a libertarian and being ancap?
small government
vs
propertarian law society

>>130248089
>vote
not in ancapistan

>>130248054
>meddling
Hitler declared war on a country, then many whites died. You don't give two shits about white people. All you care about is your messiah Hitler and virtue signaling to other NatSocs how morally pure you are.

>>130246528

The ideology of Japanese imperialism caused the breakup of the Japanese empire and the destruction of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

This is entirely the fault of Japanese imperialism and the soldiers who fought for it, nothing to do with the US invading, nuking and making them a vassal state.

Do you see how dumb what you're saying is?
You'll put the blame on anyone but the US, even when all the evidence shows that the nazis fought to protect the white race and that the actions of the US are leading to it's extinction

>>130247774
>it's almost as if the more niggers around you the more you don't want niggers to be around you.

>>130247450

Yeah good luck achieving that level of technological advancement when you only have Pablo and Jamal working away in the lab. Fucking moron.

>>130248300
It was unfortunate. I wish UK would have sided with Germany and USA stayed out of it with the soviet lend lease. Our shitty culture wouldn't be this way today if Germany didn't lose WW2 or it didn't turn into a war. I'm only leaning towards NS because it's the opposite of the dysgenic Islamic open borders cuck culture we're going towards. It's about the only thing virile enough to fight back in this age. We need about 10 Hitlers right now. He did some stupid stuff and I don't say he's perfect, but NS is more than Hitler. I agree with a lot of things in NS doctrine, but I heavily sympathize with libertarianism which I originally argued from.

>>130248335
>declare war on USA
>It's USA's fault

This is why NatSocs are nothing more than virtue signalers. All they care about is preaching to each other how morally pure they are, they don't care about actually winning or getting pro-white results.

>>130248600
do you not understand that a libertarian social order would only work with a high iq society so pablo and jamal would not exist

>>130240597
I hate nazis yet this quote somewhat makes sense in the broader scheme of things as viewed by Evola.

>>130247814

Yes I too care about results, and the actions of the US resulted in the destruction of Europe

The nazis tried to prevent this

>>130248697
>implying the US was neutral in the first place
also germany was honoring its alliance with japan

Did poL get the fun flags back

>>130249021
Well there's the underlying question, in hindsight was an alliance with Japan even worth it?

>>130248300

Whites died and are being continuously demographically displaced because American globalists invaded Europe and destroyed it then set the agenda and wrote the history books painting nationalism/racism as evil

>>130248718

Pablo and Jamal do exist in huge numbers.
Pablo and Jamal are heavily outbreeding you.

If a civil war doesn't happen soon to correct this then you can kiss goodbye to any hope of technological progress necessary to achieve your goals.

>>130240208
What's wrong with it? Nobody fucking likes the lady who comes up to you and says "this is a library please whisper". Librarians are also usually fucking nutjobs

>>130248697

Very naive view of history on the part of the US there.

Britain and America were planning to crush Germany again the moment they started to rearm and rebuild.

>>130249320
2bh lad nothing about anything having to do with the world wars was even remotely worth it

also this >>130249391
we're in some kinda fucked up experimental timeline

>>130240208
U Shill for the Shekels

Libertarians and traditional Republicans are pathetic about defending their own beliefs.

Libertarians especially are bad about this because their entire philosophy is based on the idea that you shouldn't interfere with the lives of others, yet their opponents don't subscribe to this belief which results in in the libertarian almost always losing in any fight. Republicans end up being marginally better because they recognize it is a fight where they have to try and take ground from the enemy, though they often are bad at this as they'll give in too much to the other side due expecting that the left would be willing to honor deals.

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>>130240208
>libertarian
Even more of a meme than communism

>>130249746
ancap is the end but not the means to the end i support fashy goys as the means to create an environment where a libertarian society would work. im saying after we have established a libertarian social order any remaining beans and blacks would either be excluded downright or if they are in they would not be able to thrive as they are not very high iq
end of the day fascism is the best way to achieve a free white ethnostate

>>130249391
Yup, has nothing to do with your own short sighted policy of implementing socialism despite a declining birthrate

>>130250020

Yep.

>Britain supports Germany as it goes eastwards and crushes the soviet union, putting and end to bolshevism.
>No cold war or nuclear arms buildup
>No US-led globalism & deindustrialisation
>No mass immigration or overpopulation
>No oil-funded arab/muslim influence

Truly the greatest mistake in human history. My only hope is that things collapse soon and the last seventy years can serve as a case study of how to avoid civilisational decline.

https://youtu.be/iEeSPc5oTcM

>>130250854
You're a naive moron who has no idea what a hero churchill was
Do you really think Hitler was a good man?

>>130240208
Try to be an anarchist! You will be less criticized.

>>130250709

You aren't worth talking to, so unbelievably narrow minded.

Keep living in fantasy world and believing that your own country is always on the right side 100% of the time if you want, but don't subject others your nonsensical ramblings

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>>130250343
>yet their opponents don't subscribe to this belief which results in in the libertarian almost always losing in any fight.
Yep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0bOi5dF37M
What is the libertarian answer to this?
And again I like libertarian / ancap as ideas, but we must be tough to safeguard such a society.

>>130240208
>INB4 trumpkin butthurt

>>130251028

Hitler was a warmonger, drunkard, excessive gambler and traitor to Britain. He did anything and everything to serve his own interests without a care for his country or it's people.

Hitler was a man who worked tirelessly and sacrificed everything in service of his people.

>>130240208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9mSBQeRlKc

>>130245293
I've seen this post a few times. shill.

>>130240208
It can't work when there are people that will do anything to subvert the market and twist it to meet their own desires while cheating common people.

>>130245293
>Libertarians don't care about morals.
>Libertarians don't care about community.
>Libertarians don't care about art.

said the sad faggot that can't draw and never did shit for his "community"

>>130251227
What I'm saying is true. We did not force you change your demographics, and it was you who brought us into the second world war

>>130251349

Exactly. Libertarians are basically just liberals who've bothered to pick up and economics textbook.

They shy away from tackling controversial social issues, using liberty/freedom as a justification. In reality their unwilligness to tackle degeneracy is a result of their weakness and intellectual laziness.

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>>130251913

Yeah man you're completely right, there's no US-led agenda to breed away whites. We are nothing but grateful for your interventions.

>>130251548

*Churchill for first paragraph, not sure how that happened.

>>130251548
Hitler sacrificed nothing at all. He had nothing to lose. He merely appealed to an ignorant rabble.

Churchill was a brave man who held firm to his posotions even when they were unpopular

>>130252820
>comment by a retired general in reference to bosnia

>>130251700
he's right though, nigger

>>130240208
Lolbertarianism like the jew infiltrated American "Libertarian" Party are literally just fiscally conservative democrats. There's nothing wrong with Right Libertarianism like Hoppean Ancapism and Paleolibertarianism though

>>130254000
>Hoppean Ancapism and Paleolibertarianism though

these are just natsoc re-imagined through the prism of classical liberal legal theory.

>>130240208
BUT WHO WILL BUILD THE ROADS IF YOU DON'T LET TYRONE FUCK YOUR WOMEN

>>130253645

Yeah, I'm sure the comments of a NATO supreme allied commander don't reflect American foreign policy objectives.
Probably just his personal musings.

>>130254266
>anarcho-CAPITALISM and laissez faire paleolibertarianism is socialism reimagined

Nigger what

>>130254554
Your country has a lot of anti-whites in high places as well.

BBC director-general Greg Dyke has described the corporation as being "hideously white".

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>>130253380

Here are the IQ scores of the ignorant rabble from the nuremberg trials.

Bunch of meathead knuckle draggers.

>>130245293
>morals
So you need the government to have morals? "Please Hitler stop me from fapping to traps!"
>community
Libertarianism =/= individualism. Plus capitalism is basically forced altruism since you must work or provide for your fellow man to continue living.
>art
So you need the government to have art? I think that the government is responsible for the censorship of art than otherwise.

>>130254554
They do, as regards bosnia and herzegovina.

But even if they did, can you think of a single direct action we've taken that has had an appreciable effect on your demographics? You can't base your opinion of our country on the words of a random democrat

>>130254973
Also I'm talking about right wing libertarianism not cucked left wing libertarianism.

>>130254876

Yeah I know, difference is I'm willing to admit that my country is a shithole because we picked the wrong side in 1939.

In time you will realise the same is true of the US in 1941.

It's a pretty bitter pill to swallow but it's unavoidable to anyone with intellectual honesty.

>>130254916
I said he appealed to the rabble- the masses
Also, those are very average scores for leaders, especially when you remove the highest one, who was anti hitler

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>>130255047
>can you think of a single direct action we've taken that has had an appreciable effect on your demographics?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnUmuajQROk

>>130255234
History is boring, and anti-whites must be stopped regardless of what they say about the past, Anon. If you have interest in history, you likely have already become too cosy with the establishment, and I repeat regardless of what anyone says about history, right now White Genocide must stop.

>>130255047
creating the """refugee""" """crisis"""

>>130255047

I base my opinion of the US on their foreign and domestic policies which have resulted in mass overpopulation in the third world and demographic replacement of whites within the US.

The US has done a lot of good & I know plenty of decent Americans but the fact that your country has been hijacked to serve as the henchman of globalism is an unavoidable truth.

The same is true of Britain as of 1939, except we now lack the ability to project ourselves as much so we get less hate.

>>130255771
Europe favored those policies and even joined in. And no one forces you to open your borders.
>>130255796
We've had very little to do with yout demographic shift

>>130255275

>Nine genius-tier IQ scores
>"Average for leaders"

You're starting to bore me now.

>>130255464
How is this relevant to my post?

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>>130255275
>I said he appealed to the rabble- the masses

Wouldn't you say Trump did the same thing by going to many small poor areas? I'm not saying this is a bad thing. Hitler had more intentions other than power and brainwashing the masses as people seem to look at it. There is a lot of reason a man like him came up and it starts with the end of WW1. It was very much about unifying the most beaten down people like Germans today. Germans really loved him and of any politician I've looked at, Hitler loved his people more than any other politician I've seen too. It wasn't some opportunist power hungry person pandering to some unwashed swine of the masses for his own ends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZopZouX4Q8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ8bGg4vuM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o0Ucaqzw2I

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>>130240208
in order to accept libertarianism you implicity accept that all human being in your society will share your values.

we use the state as a mechinism to regulate against deviant behavior of individuals, in a libertarian society no such mechanism exists, as such any truely libertarian society will devolve into totalitarianism.

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>>130256188
Fuck me with those digits it's a bit late sorry m8.

>>130240208
You think the solution to modern problems is to undo every philosophical development leading up to them except the single one that made them all inevitable.

>>130256115
Idk what to tell you
Nixon was certainly higher than anyone there
Roosevelt graduated from yale at a time when the average was around 120 at least

>>130256202
No, Trump's supporters were more intelligent on average than his opponent's
Hitler ruined nationalism and doomed his career when at a time when he could have got away with almost anything

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>>130256503

>the average was around 120

Stop. Commenting.

>>130256006
oh come on man. if the US hadn't started it there would be nothing with which to consent. and you should know the EU is throwing around immigrant quotas (with force) and that brexit happened.

are you going to tell me the american people consented to the effects of INA 1965 to continue covering the US government's ass? fuck off, this country is not infallible.

>>130256780
I think he meant average yale student

>>130256681

If Hitler had won you wouldn't be saying he ruined nationalism. We would say that he saved German nationalism.

Hitler lost because Britain and the US invaded. Therefore Hitler didn't ruin nationalism, we did, by declaring war on it.

Patriotism =\= blindly supporting every action of your country throughout history

>>130256780
I mean the average for his schoolmand subject
>>130256827
>>130256827
We did not force them to take the refugees. And even if we had, it would not have altered their demographics significantly. Their own workers policies did that

>>130245160
>let's just ignore the problem and do nothing

>>130257051

Regardless if he did, it's still a moot point

>>130257080
No, I would be saying the same things because my country would still be here to despise a man who had taken so many lives

>>130257133
>can you think of a single direct action we've taken that has had an appreciable effect on your demographics?
>We did not force them to take the refugees.
Thanks for at least admitting to moving the goalposts

>>130240208
A lot of people are too dumb to get it

>>130257315
You'te the one who did that. Making them open their borders would have been a direct action. Getting involved in a war they supported was not.

>>130257274
I was not paying attention to you guy's argument so I would not know.

>>130240208
>whats wrong with being a libertarian?
They're too silly to exist outside their hugbox, O.P.

>>130240208
>whats wrong with being a libertarian?
They don't take a consistent stance against anti-whites, O.P.

Also, they're silly. See -----> >>130257560

>>130240208
We don't vote then bitch about how government sucks.

>>130257457
you're going to scapegoat hitler for ruining nationalism but not the US for globalism and starting shit in the middle east? wew lad. what a good little goy you are.

>>130257719
I'm not going to take responsibility for a war they too supported or for actions they took voluntarily

>>130240208
The Left does not desire liberty, they desire license, and if you give it to them they will simply lie to people until they get what they want.

Understand this: Libertarianism is like 5% of the national vote. Why? Because the Left LIES. You cannot have a libertarian society with Leftist subversives in it, they must be physically removed.

Unfortunately American Libertarians literally ban Hoppeans, so there is no hope whatsoever for the American Libertarian movement. Even Ryan Dawson abandoned them.

>>130245901
dude the only benefit was no rape, dealing with old ladies has always sucked also i guess the lack of niggers but i live in mexican are they are not niggers they work>>130245901

>>130257457
>siding with anti nationalism and international communism/Zionism in WW2
>civil rights act and 1965 immigration
>free love and hippy era
>communist (((flee))) to USA and join academia
>50 years of denazification and vilification of race realism and immigration
>export this culture of 100% equal rainbow nations through media as a side effect
>be soft for 60 years of security and no sense of dangers
>be surprised when much of them welcome every last person until it becomes Camp Of The Saints.

>>130257929
Your first example is the opposite- Europe got us involved.
The rest is stupid, the europeans were already more leff wing than us by the time of the cold war. Our worst leftist stuff has its origins in europe, which gave us a constant stream of leftist propaganda

>>130257285

Wouldn't have had to take lives to defend Germany if we hadn't invaded

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>>130257922
The benefit was a high trust society like Japan experiences today. Would you lock your doors in a diverse neighborhood? I hear anecdotes all the time about "oh we just leave the door open, nobody would harm us anyway"...But I live in a homogeneous area. There are many metrics that make a homogeneous society better.

>>130257929

Spot on.

>>130244600

Is this accurate?

>>130258180
You wouldn't have invaded if he hadn't made it his purpose to dominate europe

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>>130240208
Pathological individualism to the point you would kill your own kind if it meant you didn't have to spend a penny to help them.

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>>130240208
because you can't help being the most cringy humans in existence.

>>130247774
>Only 41% in Oregon
Feels bad living in such a Europe-tier cuckhole... Some solace in the fact that my little 30k pop county went red, though

>>130258172

Jesus christ you are something else.

So the Germans forced garands in the hands of the Americans and dragged them onto the beaches of Normandy did they?

Get real. Your government invaded Europe for geopolitical gain.

You could have remained isolationist and defended your own country. You could have crushed Japan in retaliation, but you chose to invade Europe so you could expand your influence.

>>130258362
The onl real issue it's the amount of non white people, all the rest are non issues that have always existed regardless of the society, if you have human concentrations like that.

>>130258293
i get all that, but you are smart, its over dude. i would love whites with whites and blacks with blacks but your living in the past man. its over. it will only happen if you move to kentucky, im not against it>>130258293

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>>130258633
What county? Tillamookian here.

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>>130258417
Only other one I can find is this. Look up questionnaires like "Do you want bigger or smaller government?", "Do you believe in absolute free speech even as far as neo-nazis?" and look at the percentages for whites and then other groups in USA who support libertarian/righitst ideas. You'll find that whites are the only people who consistently do.

>>130258463

We definitely would, our politicians would've used any excuse.

We declared war under the guise of defending Poland before handing it over to the soviets.

>>130258180

>guarantee Poland's independence, tell Hitler not to invade
>Hitler invades and splits it with Soviet Union
>Do nothing for a couple years
>France falls
>Convince Roosevelt to provide supplies
>American people still against sending ground troops
>Japan attacks USA and declares war, Germany soon follows
>American people angry about Pearl Harbor and support the war now
>Germany gets gangbanged
>Poland remains under Soviet occupation

I blame Hitler and Churchill both, they were fuck ups.

>>130258846
Not true. Chamberlain wished to evade war at any cost

>>130258674
>You could have remained isolationist and defended your own country. You could have crushed Japan in retaliation, but you chose to invade Europe so you could expand your influence.

Germany declared war after Japan attacked. Why do you love sucking Hitler's dick so much when clearly allying with Japan was his mistake.

>>130258674
I don't care, Hitler was an evil man who deserved to lose

I like and enjoy roads to drive to work and back home with


Lobertarians have very poorly misguided views on how to run economy that favorism corporate oligarchies

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>>130258733
It may be over for borders and countries as we know them currently. The body of European heritage will still exist and craft new borders. We're in some transition stage right now and it's been tough to watch like a slow-mo car crash as you look on in horror like "I told you so". It's a time of organizing and raising awareness. Countries like Poland and Hungary in the Visegard group are standing hard on this and becoming loud to demographic displacement irl and people online as you're discussing here. It's far from over and Euros have faced these threats with Islam and conquering before.

>>130259208
It's not being evil that done him in, it was hubris.

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>>130259322
There were quite a few times where this was the case. That doesn't lessen NS ideas or what he accomplished pre-war. Humans have their shortcomings.

Great documentary regardless what you believe about National socialism. It shows some of Hitler's poor decisions with military at times too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh15X_DdRJU

I don't want to revert our economy back to the gilded ages

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>>130240208
It's not edgy enough

>>130259036

Absolutely horseshit. These things were decided at a level above Chamberlain. We strategically feigned a desire for appeasement to buy us time and prepare. We then turned down all subsequent offers of peace from Hitler.

It's common knowledge that we were expecting to fight another war with Germany as soon as the treaty of versailles was signed. This time to put them down for good.

>>130259148

>Germany declared war after Japan attacked

So what if they declared war?
Why does that mean you had to invade Normandy? You could have just defended the shores of the US

If the Germans had been successful in defeating the soviets and British they would have been in no position to even consider invading the americas afterwards, they were already stretched to capacity in Europe and North Africa

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All men must die

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Good night niggers

>>130259208

You'll be whistling that same tune right until the brown hordes kick down your front door and murder you.

Grit your teeth and embrace reality.

>>130259944
No, it was common knowledge that Germany would provoke you, and it dif

>>130260270
>so what if they declared war
Lol

>>130260327
>libertarians
>national socialism
pick only one

>>130260270
Their declaration of war was just so they could sink the cargo ships we were already sending.
Honestly both you and the soviets would have caved by 1941 had it not been for American supplies, and you know it

>>130260483
We can sell you guns

>>130260417

If Malaysia declared war on Britain it wouldn't make sense for us to travel half way round the world to invade them if they didn't do anything to attack us.

Germany couldn't have invaded the American mainland because their forces could barely hold down Europe.

>>130260851
No, but the Germans could sink our ships, disrupt trade, etc

>>130260600

Yeah, the world would be much better off if we'd caved

>>130260995

Negotiate. Stop supplying Britain and the USSR

>>130261064
How can you say that? You truly believe europe would be better under the influence of a genocidal warmonger?

>>130261964

Yes. Modern Europe is a dystopian nightmare and it's only getting worse

>>130262460
Worse than under a war criminal?

>>130244972
Not realising that Natsoc is implicitly authoritarian which means that by fighting on your side we immediately stop being what we are and become what your are. And we think you are fucked in the head.

>>130263354

There are documented instances of young British girls being gangraped, killed and their bodies used as meat in a takeaway.

Yes, I'd roll the dice with Hitler as an overlord. Fuck Churchill the fat sack of shit and fuck modern Britain.

>>130263549
this. nazis should hang alongside commies and judges. no quarter for bootlicking authoritarians

>>130264128
But churchill would never have permitted this

>>130260733
i'm honestly fine with this. i'd love to supply both the commies and nazis with weapons, take bets on who wins, then wipe out the victor asap.

>>130264378

He paved the way for it to happen and sat back in complacency. He is a traitor just like all post-war British leaders.

>>130250554
I'm pretty sure apart from the funding, libertarians wouldn't have a problem with that

>>130264378

No, Churchill would not have wanted it in 1945. And 10 years ago, Barack Obama opposed gay marriage.

Leftist spirals leftward. It's what it does. And the speed of the spiral constantly increases, until you hit a leftist singularity and get a reaction (thermidor, stalin, deny xiaoping, etc.) or the society just collapses.

>>130240208

Nothing.

Natsoc will hang with the commies.

It is the single most naive position you can take politically and economically at same time.

>>130264596
Churchill was never a leftist. You're talking nonsense

>>130264608
You should just worry about the commies for now. They don't have guns.

>>130244772
But the quote is more true than anything. Even Homer, the ancient poet understood this in Agamemnon. He had to die during his greatest act to achieve even the ink of immortality and eternity that Gods had/have. If he hadn't done that there wouldn't be his story or Homer the Poet.

>>130264716
see
>>130264716


you're both walking garbage. i'm not even joking. you're not even animals in my book. nothing but trash. can't wait for the real day of the rope.

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>>130265250
I see

>>130265547
ha, meant this one. that was my fuck up

>>130264437

>>130240208
Apart from it being a leftist ideology, nothing

>>130265729
it's not even in the same dimension retard

>>130240208
Nothing is wrong with Libertarianism. If it's the dominant belief of people in a democracy, you will get a Libertarian society. However it can't be forced since the central tenet of libertarianism is political, personal and economic freedom.

Your free market cuckitalism is why the West has no borders and is being steadily replaced by niggers and spics.

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>>130240208
It's not nazi enough. On the woke spectrum libertarian is one order magnitude below nazi.

>>130245697
what about kowloon walled city?

>>130266047
Those were the times, man. The good old times.

>>130265922
>equating Freedom with Cuckism while waving the flag of "everyone is a cuck now".
>blaming shitty immigration policy and border protection on a quasi free market.

>>130259208
You're living in a fairy tale nigger.

>>130240208
Libertarianism is a meme ideology. It's a response to the ethnic fractionalisation of countries like the US. If Americans have no common cause for which they need a state for, then I suppose it makes sense to get rid of it.

Maybe this is an American thing, but libertarians have this retarded fetishization of freedom above all else. The reason why this is retarded is because freedom is only an instrumental value. It's meaningless in and of itself. Freedom only allows you to pursue other more meaningful things, and if you can't do that then the freedom is useless.

Also muh free market capitalist economics usually ignores all the flaws of capitalism, such as the in-built cyclical nature of capitalist economies and the ever-increasing concentration of wealth

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>>130240208
its a hyper individualist, globalist, egotistic, materialist ideology, AKA everything that is currently wrong with society. the only difference between a libertarian and a democrat is the welfare state issue

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libertarians are appropriate for our decadent society

>>130270353
it's those things, their bi-polar opposites and all the other hyperbole in between. Democrat and Republican are just masks for greedy, servile, political operators commissioned by authoritarians to increase control over the nations people.

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>>130244600

The question is what would whites do if they were free to dispense with >90% of their rightful earnings.

I think, great things.