china takes over WEB, quantum physics wins

>>130225041
Really seems interesting but i'm too stupid to understand any of it

>>130225041
Mehh just hope this whole world civilisation collapses desu

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>>130225041
The implications are mind boggling. Yet, it might also be an Achilles heel. With tech that is so sophisticated, there is sure to be bugs to exploit. Their flagship is made of silk and glass.

lmao who the fuck buys this bullshit?
China, the country that wants to control what websites you're able to visit, how long you can play games and how many kids you're allowed to have is interested in an internet infrastructure where the traffic cant be decrypted or controlled.

Sure ... mhmm

>>130225041
I bet the Chinese will try to hold a monopoly on this tech. They could make billions off of it by creating state run ISPs.

>>130225041
Just means we can't listen in any more. It'll be a military tool to protect sensitive orders to planes and ships outside of china.

>>130225550
dont need to understand the specifics
basically in place of hardware 0s and 1s you have quantum entangled photons between a satellite and an lab
they want to use these particles to send info back and forth with no need for encryption because there is no middle ground for interception, the information is instant due to the nature of the quantum level (entangled particles defying space-time)

imagine, a new quantum internet in a decade

>>130225041
>and they claim it cannot be breeched
Don't forget to use Win10 when you receive this data, good boy.

>>130225828
>is interested in an internet infrastructure where the traffic cant be decrypted or controlled
Yeah, so that other countries can't snoop on Chinese traffic you stupid fucking retarded faggot. Grow a fucking brain or kill yourself.

>>130226200
If quantum entanglement shit is location agnostic why the fuck do you need it in a satilite? Chinks lying

>>130226624
I suppose to hold the hardware holding the software that is directing the whole process so that we as humans can interpret the information and manipulate

taking a stab in the dark here though

>>130226200
>a new quantum internet in a decade
So, I'll need to upgrade my computer again

say hello to the new official platform for cryptocurrencies. not that i'm complaining.

>>130226624
you do pose an interesting scenario however - I wonder into the future if they will be able to program these particles themselves, without a need for hardware beyond the preexisting blank slate

>>130226973
>program these particles themselves
programmable matter is the first step. imagine nano machines that can manipulate quantum particles. done deal

>China first!

Or......


>China First to go public

>>130227070
still reliant on man made hardware, though still incredibly cool and much closer to reality

The claim is that there's no way to intercept the data. We don't know that yet for sure.

>>130226915
been about a decade since my last upgrade ;)

>>130226624
>location agnostic
xD

This quantum computing stuff really changes everything, from a spiritual to a technological level.

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Why does anyone believe Chinese press releases lol

>>130227174
not until people can explain quantum entanglement I guess

>>130226577

Stop projecting, moron.
I follow futurist blogs and the scene, this tech is being proposed for the entire internet.

>>130227285
The opinion generally accepted by scientists, is that if you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understand quantum mechanics.

>>130227287
ok
>China provides Internet access to entire planet
>impossible to snoop on the traffic for anyone but China
Yeah, no benefits there at all. It's not like the NSA spends millions a year getting network taps in all the infrastructure in America as it is.

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>>130225041
White people could have been doing this. Instead we chose to feed niggers and build mosques.

>>130227534
you wont be able to intercept something that for all intents and purposes sends information that disappears from perceivable reality then reappears at another location before we're able to even register it ie instant information transfer

until we're able to measure and identify how its working, there is no chance of interception

but it all rests on their ability to utilise these particles to begin with

>4channers think China doesn't lie through its teeth to impress foreigners

>>130227934

it doesnt send any information
if you know the spin of one of the particles you know the other one has the same, thats all

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>Chink """ingenuity"""

>>130228495
yeah its a binary system they want to use to convey information
the state of the particle itself is the information needed

>>130227924
muh dick

The Chinese hack the US all the time, hack this shit from them!

>>130226624
Location agnostic means the entangled photon pairs can be anywhere. You still have to get them to the location where you want to read/write them you retard. Thats what the satelite does.

To dumb this one (there are more) principles of quantum communication down with the common analogy for you. You basically create two pieces of magic paper. If you write something on magic paper its appears on the other paper no matter where the other papers is. You still have to transfer the paper to their locations.

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>>130227934
Will we see quantum warfare in our lifetime?

Information warfare waged in different dimensions.

I know its all poorly understood, and very abstract, but the anime Noein comes to mind, and this excites me.

>>130225041
ITS MORE IMPORTANT NOW THAN EVER TO CENSOR THE INTERNET FROM THE
CHINESE CHINGALINGA PROPOGANDA
DO IT FOR DA KEEIDS

>>130229285
>Thats what the satelite does.
along with creating them in first place

>>130227287
NOPE
>>130229500
Is more what you sound like
>its me
uh that's sarcasm and quantum cant defy physics
give us a quick LAYDOWN of QUantum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW0kXlD4BA0
here laymens terms and what all the discrepancies you dont have any asnwers for

>quantum has no pull
cant justify the force of pull

>>130225041
Oh sure they did. I bet the University of Science and Technology is actually just a noodle shop made of styrofoam.

ITT people with no knowledge of quantum physics swallowing Chinese lies.

>>130225041
Unless it's peer reviewed source, don't waste my time. Especially since we're talking about chinks.

>>130225041
I'm fairly sure you can't use entanglement to send information. Something about violating the speed of light.

>>130230036
people in quantum who have no idea of physics spread propoganda (op)>>130229792
quantum cant justify pull thats their ACHILLES HEEL
which makes them not a valid explanation of anything in the world thats an object

>>130229466
was about to pose a scenario to you but I'd prefer to use it as a creative base for something ;)

>>130230036
the potential and the general idea is cool
whether or not china is close to it or not is irrelevant from my perspective at least

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Quantum can't justify pull.
why should we care about anything that has the quant um in it?

>>130225041
wow nice, american since BTFO

>>130230281
You can NOT transfer information using entangled particles. It would break causality. Any retard knows that.

>>130230352
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>>130230281
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wtf the level of propoganda >>130230352
>me
is fucking off the level here. Ill get it though. I think it has something to do withsince their breaking t heir own limit laws now
with the size of microCHIPS. or maybe or something theyre coming up with alklthis fake shit
TEll me /pol/ how does it feel to be living in a near future FAKE WORLD???

>>130225041
Internet revolution. Awesome.
I hope this paves the way to more understanding.

>>130226577
>so that other countries can't snoop on Chinese traffic you stupid fucking retarded faggot.
They can't already
>what is encryption
All modern snooping is based on backdooring. Such communication vulnerable to it the same.

>>130230587
as long as you can use the
bullshit quantum as t he vehicle to push your propoganda with the intenret whtaer right

>>130230619
I CAN SEE IT NOW A WORLD OF NO HACKING ALL THANKS TO QUANTUM OF COURSE IT WILL BE ILLEGAL BY DEATH>>130230534
>future fake world

>>130230453
>You can NOT transfer information using entangled particles. It would break causality.
Please explain

>>130230453
do you not understand the concept of entangled particles, or binary code? How is data impossible to send if you have a binary system that can pass information through code that relies on a binary state, ie binary code? its not like they are sticking information or code into the particles then having them send and receive it like packets
the particles themselves are the 0s and 1s

>>130230534
..what?

>>130227174
>The claim is that there's no way to intercept the data.
You can bit it will destroy data in the destination point and taping would be obvious.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_(physics)

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>>130229466
>mfw alex jones was right and there is an interdenominational info-war going on right now

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>>130228837

why dont they just use incognito tab?

>>130229969
They actually are because all your funding goes to taccos, niggers, trannies and feminism.

It was a pipedream (pun intended) to use satelites instead of vacuum pipes at universities all over the world . But guess what? Satelites are expensive and our Western universities have to spend the little budget they have on diversity hirings, gender programs and pushing niggers trough courses. They had to watch China just try it and succeed.

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>>130230881
When you have a pair of entangled particles, they are both in a superposition state.
When you collapse the quantum state of one of the particles to see its spin, you know what's the state of the other (it's the opposite). Doing that makes both particles stop being entangled.
You don't make the particles flip to send a message, you just look what state the other has. It's the equivalent of having two boxes, one containing a blue ball and another containing a red ball. You send them to separate places, whoever opens the box knows what's the color of the other, but can't use it to send a message.
Even if you could (Which is physically impossible), sending a message that way would break causality by going faster than the speed of light. It cannot happen.

>>130231451
Okay, interesting. So what's with the chinks in OP?

these threads always display how fucking retarded the average poster here is lol

Did they really defeat the speed of light

>>130231609
They are using it to encrypt the information, not transmit it.

>>130231451
How's this useful if it can't send messages or be toggled

>>130231979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E79AKRusjOQ

>>130231451
If you know what color each box is
then you know the state of each
which means its either 0 or 1
meaning it can be used in conjunction with other particles to send information
like I said before and you obviously didnt read
its not like its sending information in a packet of entangled particles
the particles, having 0/1 states, what composes the message

>>130232042
They send encrypted keys by beaming rays of light. They don't use the entanglement itself to transmit the information

>>130225041

I read a proof the other day that said quantum entangled particles wont be able to pass information? Does anyone know what is real anymore?

>>130232106
But that's wrong, you fucking retard.
You don't know the state of those particles until you collapse their quantum state. You cannot alter it. You don't know if you're going to get a 0 or a 1. You will only get a random string of 0s and 1s, while the other guy will get an OPPOSITE random string of 0s and 1s

>>130232415
thats not whats being proposed but what is currently available, no?

>>130226200
>the information is instant
lol

>>130232553
The particles sent have an entangled quantum state. It's an encryption key. The objective is that if someone who doesn't have the entangled pair receives the signal, the quantum state of the photons change and thus they cannot decipher the message.

>>130232848
Cool I misread OP as saying "needing no encryption"

>>130225975
The Chinese do not respect international intellectual property rights.
Trademarks, copyrights, patents, state secrets, it doesn't matter to them.

>>130231707
Dude, bro, quantum mechanics is kind of hard.

>>130230619
>They can't already
You're pretty dumb for a Russian.
>All modern snooping is based on backdooring. Such communication vulnerable to it the same.
And how the fuck do you access the backdoor? You connect to the fucking network that the machines are on. You won't be able to do that with this magical quantum shit. There's a reason why communication via quantum entanglement is such a big deal you fucking retard, no one would be pouring millions into research for it if it wouldn't offer benefits.

The chinks are working with Austrians for those who thinks this is just "propaganda", lol.

And if you read up on the subject, it was an Austrian scientist that tried to do this but didn't get his funding, so his chink assistant went to China to start a quantum lab there instead. The Austrian scientist then went to cooperate with this Chinese lab.

And that is how China will rule the world.

>>130234395
How? feverishly throwing money at every project it can and hope something sticks? Seems reckless to me.

>>130225041
This is good news.

It is obvious that britain and america want to control the whole world's internet service and hold them ransom to spy attack after snowden.

So good on the chinese, they want to have independence let them have it.

its only for the chinese in china anyway.

>>130234604
Paying western scientists to develop shit for them when their governments are too busy paying for refugee breeding programs.

>>130234604
That's called basic research, you idiot. You need to understand something with BASIC research before you can do APPLIED research and put that knowledge to use.

China has more money to throw around in cutting-edge science than anyone else, combined with less moral compulsions for things like gene editing technology and nuclear power. They're already dominant in things like solar power and commercial drones.

Instead of wasting that money in endless wars with sandniggers or even more bonuses for the disloyal mega-rich, they're dumping that money into R&D to make their country stronger and better. You know, "Make China Great Again".

>>130233928
>And how the fuck do you access the backdoor?
Install your software and hardware someone in-between.

>There's a reason why communication via quantum entanglement is such a big deal you fucking retard, no one would be pouring millions into research for it if it wouldn't offer benefits.
It doesn't matter if channel is safe when the router or recipient's computer is with the worm.

>>130225041
When the chinks fully join the web, the shut posting will get too damn high.

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YOu guys claim something a concept that you claim explains physics and the universe but you cant justify the force of PULL

>>130236190
u guys are claiming this inthis thread as an
answer to anything

and its all
BULLSHIT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW0kXlD4BA0

>>130236190
thats easy
objects have a mind and desire to move towards larger things
dont believe me? grab something and let it do without any support. Falls to the ground every time.
prove me wrong

>>130235971
The only way to "hack" a quantum network is to buy off the people on the ends.

You cannot get someone in-between, because of quantum. If you look at it while in transit from A to B, it changes and no longer works. That's why it's "unhackable", because people on the ends will know when their communication is compromised.

Quantum is some weird shit, and quantum entanglement even more weird shit that can exceed the speed of light.

>>130225041
>china ushers in new internet infrastructure capable of yet unrecognized technological feats
>everything but state propaganda is banned
Really makes you think.

>>130235503
It isnt pointless war, its propping up our currency and stomping out oppressive regimes at the same time. Yes research i get it like immoral nazi germany and we will swat them down just the same. All chinas ambitions, all your projects you are alone in this. The world is not going to bend to your will no matter you think.

>>130225041
So far as I know entangled particles are pairs, you'd need one pair for every network and person connecting to that network. We would each need 'particle A' and 4chains would have to hold all of our 'particle B' for us to talk to each other. You could also steal 'particle B' physically and hijack our connections that way.

>>130229466
>Will we see quantum warfare in our lifetime?

We already have. You know those memes where people think Trump traveled through time?

We both already know that 'other times' are just parallel universes which interact at the quantum level.

>>130229466
Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb1-CwSvgTc

>>130237124
More like more space for their regional versions of every internet service to grow. Baidu, Alibaba, Youku, Bilibili etc.

When will the world realize the Great Firewall is the greatest form of protectionism in the world? Just like Japan and Korea shielded their domestic industries from competition until they were strong enough to take on the world, China's 1 billion souls will fund the creation of truly glorious monsters that will dominate the world.

>>130237129
The petrodollar is worth less and less as new techs develop, and do you really want to be held hostage by the whims of OPEC?

Endless wars is beggaring everyone but the military industry, who can't replace the middle class by itself no matter how much it tries.

And also, you took in all those "immoral nazi scientists" for a reason, lol. The world will bend to China. It is as inevitable as gravity.

>>130226200
Bandwidth would be shit and retardedly expensive. This will mostly be used for communications secure from a man in middle attack. Military and govt most likely. There's no real need to pump porn and shitposts over it

>>130225041
>chinese now in a position to fire data via quantum from space
I can assure you this is bullshit.

>>130236841
>you cannot get someone in-between, because of quantum
if it its quantum communication all the way. But if only goes to quantum modem and quantum modem is connected by conventional LAN to computer running Intel CoreTM and win10 there are plenty do non quantum communications carrying this information.

>>130236841
>that can exceed the speed of light
its so weird it does not no even have a speed. :)

>>130225041
Useless Shit.

Tell me when somebody comes up with Full Duplex Wireless Internet.

enloyed reading the sciencey anons explaining quantum stuff, 4.30 a.m. here time for my nap...good or bad its significant, ,,,

>>130238016
Ah gyad, right in the nostalgias.

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>>130243638
its sigificant because the chinese want the world to know were their at with this, their setting out their stall....thank you for your ideas, bedfordshires calling

>>130238691
I demand quantum shitposts YESTERDAY.

>Select all squares that match the label: cream.
>cream

>>130244698
all members of the time travel club meet here last thursday

>>130244976
Last-Thursdayism is truly the CREAM of the crop.

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>>130225041
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvjDr7i14Cc
China is scratching their head why we are cucking ourselves into oblivion. They'll probably rule the next century if we don't fix ourselves soon.

>>130225041
>or are we too be stuck in , muh race mixing, muh (((tribe)))
A shekel for a good goy.

>>130245463
i accept your shekel...

>>130245463
its saturday here so that would shabbos goy, l'chaim

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>>130245770
Both of you are objectively shit.

>>130245241
yup, they even have a new word for it (that escapes me ) but translated means westerners fucking them selves to virtue signal insignificant stuff,,, they used to just call us white devils, we have gone down in their estimation

The Chinks are notorious liars.

I'll believe it when another country does it.

>>130246065
"White left", i.e. 白左

>>130246280
The chinks are cooperating with austria, dumbass.

>>130225041
Could this mean super high speed internet? Cause thats all I care about desu

>>130250178
No. At least, not in the short term.

Quantum computers are a whole other branch of technology from regular computers and fiber optic cables.