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why is there division with us alt right/red pill guys over whether the white race should become pagan again or stay christian, i am in favour of old fashioned crusader christianity, i think the pagans were a bunch of cucklet fags who practiced degeneracy such as beastiality on a regular basis. I want to hear your opinions?
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>>130192954
It's just people using the concept of religion as an expression of their politics. They aren't actually religious.
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>>130193175
okay i understand now thanks
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>>130192954
on the pic army of lithuania or moscovia vs teutonians, european analog of ISIS.
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>>130193917
i only know its crusaders fighting baltic and finnic pagans
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>>130194559
That was permanent 200 years war against jemaite - pagans, Great Princedom of Litva, Great Princedom of Moscowia, but both of princedoms was christianic.
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>>130192954
I wish people would stop using the word "pagan" for anything other than "non-Christian". Identifying as such is a modern invention. The term was coined by early Christians as a pejorative for anyone who wasn't a Christian, and technically includes anyone from Buddhists to Wiccans.
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>>130192954
Pagans are just like any other infidel. They will convert, die, or leave in due time.

Repent heathens!
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>>130192954
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>>130195941
>I wish people would stop using the word "pagan" for anything other than "non-Christian".
Pagan means non-Abrahamic, not non-Christian. Pretty sure Abrahamic but non-Christian is heathen.
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>>130192954
>us alt-right

Fuck off. There isn't. We all want niggers Jews and globalism out of the western sphere. There is no "alt right", interloper.
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>>130195941
pagan means only one thing.
This is not proselytic tribal cult.
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>>130196243
Ok, non-Abrahamic, but the point still stands. "Paganism" isn't a religion.
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>>130196067
>vargs fag wet dream
>vs reality
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>>130192954
>crusader christianity

What does this mean other than posting pictures on image boards of knights? Sounds like it's a type of day dreaming.
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>>130197637
lick it clean
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Ethnic nationalism requires an Ethnic religion.

Christianity is a tool for Globalism.
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>>130192954
Christianity is a Jewish cult. If you are fine with that then congrats, goy.
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What I have learned is that both neo-paganism and Christians are fags.
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>>130195865
You should really stop taking about shit you know nothing about.
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>>130192954
If you accept your conquerors faith what stops you from accepting Islam?
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DEAD KIKE ON A STICK
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>>130197637
Kek, Catholicism is literally Crypto-Paganism Christianity.

Antitrinitariam Protestant master-race reporting in.
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>>130192954

>Why is there a division, gais?
>Excuse me while I insult those who hold a different view

You're a literal fucking moron.
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>>130198413
Because I believe Christ was the son of God
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>>130192954
every pagan has their own meme interpretation of paganism, it's artificial in any case, it does not satisfy the need for spirituality and it isn't even coherent
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>>130197637
>>130197720
>>130197765
Thank god im not a Catholic then
>>130198494
>pirate flag
how does it feel to be the new leafs of /pol/ ?
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>>130193175
This.
Nordic and Celtic paganism while they may promote some occaisional degenerate behaivior are actually VERY quite heavily redpilled about the human spirit and society as a whole.

As for the theological aspect, I'm guessing that behaivior represents releasing our more animalistic urges in a more controled way, as opposed to bottling them up until they consume you. It's less about promoting those urges, but respecting them.
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Religion is nothing more, and shouldnt be treated as anything more, than a blueprint for human behaviour and societal function.

Not even the fucking pope "believes" like you ignorant fools
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>>130199149
t.pay debt
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>>130198626
>Brazil
>master race
Thank you I needed a good laugh
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>>130198153
>christians are jews1!!1!!1
so if we're gonna resort to strawmen arguments, pagans are primitive apes who lived in mud huts
>>130198626
>edgelord: the post
>>130199180
absolutely degenerate.
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>>130197637
Why is the pope kissing feet?>>130197783
What a strange world we live in
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>>130192954
You are a stupid faggot, white men should practice anything they want, as long as he doesn't work against his own people.
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Pope Francis is the primary reason why I'm converting from Catholicism to Christianity.

All I need is scripture. I don't need some cowardly heretic as a intermediary
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>>130197783

>some random fat faggot is comparable to the pope
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>>130199868
If all you need is scripture become an evangelicuck.
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>>130199757

even muslam?
are you suggesting we turn into albanians?
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>>130192954
Christian vs Pagan is D&C


Let's be honest, our only religion is europe itself
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>>130200013
Nobody is turning into Albanians, Albanians are low IQ enough to be Muslims, not everyone is.
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>>130199637
Says the hairy swarthy mongrel, Turkic, Persian, Greeko-Roman, rapebabby.

How does it feel to be a mongrel? Reminder that your people were raped and pillaged by so called northern barbarians.
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>>130200004
>evangelicuck.

I'm still green to this. It's been twenty years since I've studied religion. Evangelists are the loud types you see on public tv, right?
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>>130200249
which is pagan
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these are slide threads
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Christianity has two problems
the first being its modern day cuckiness, which I think could be fixed.
the second is it being a "Universalist" religion, which means it is not confined to being strictly white, like say European Paganism.
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>>130192954
Most of them are Varg fans.
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>>130198306
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grunwald
This is final of history.

Jemaite - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samogitians

Russian princedom - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_on_the_Ice

But i'm ready to listen you history.
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>>130192954
return to paganism*
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>>130200330
Yes, Evangelicals are protestants, Baptists that kind of thing, they only follow bible and try to no practice anything that isn't in the bible, they call Catholics and Orthodox pagans.
they usually are culturally plebs, have shitty architecture and everything.

vid related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WLTcfWOKB4
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>>130197637
Funny fact, the previous pope was a catholic and against immigration. This one is a jesuit and a kike puppet.
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>>130200573

Don't forget crusades against the Czechs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hussite_Wars#The_first_anti-Hussite_crusade

But

>MUH CHRISTIAN BROTHERHOOD
>CHRISTIANITY UNITED EUROPE
>CHRISITANITY SAVED EUROPE FROM ISLAM
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>>130199757
Noice pic in sum up Balt pagans was pretty based like burned them self in calstles instead of surrender, boiled knights in they armor and buried dead in top of trees wich must had looked terrific
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>>130192954
>why is there division
>proceeds to be very divisive

at the end of the day it should be white vs non-white end of story
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>>130194559
Are you retarded this is catholics vs orthodox soldiers you can clearly see orthodox icon banners in the left army.
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>>130200357
which is indo-european or aryan , dunno if you wanna count that as european?
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>>130200941
As i say, crusaders was analog of ISIS.
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>>130198818
You will also believe in Allah and that mohammed was his prophet. You will accept whatever dominant faith there is since if you done it once you will do it again.
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>>130199637
Now say that in ancient greek.
Pro-tip, you can't because you dropped most of the complexity from your language.
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>>130199464
F off, I'm as white as the average Parisian, exactly 12% white.
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Probably because your fat cuck ass would be killed off in the first minute of battle.
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>>130198818
But....
Jesus was son of legioneer nicknamed Panthera.
Jusef married with Marijam for save her by Stone Beating.
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>>130201271
sure
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neopagans on here quite literally are just jaded faggots who are too far gone to be able to believe in organised religion but are spiritual enough to fawn over European old ways. A return to paganism is impossible, but a rediscovery of old European morality may be depending on which way secularism turns and if there ever is a great uprising against socialists.
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>>130200972
Perkunas is not smiling at your country right now, convert back to Paganism.

>>130201923
That's what Celsus said, that's not a reliable evidence for it.
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>>130193175
You are projecting. I couldn't not believe in god if I wanted to. Nevertheless, anyone who choses religion over race is an ideologue, not a real racist. That is why varg is a piece of shit.
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who cares what religion we are
as long as we can agree that the niggers must die
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There is no debate. The YHWHists were already crushed and eliminated. Nobody follows their Jewish Semitic turn the other cheek weak bullshit nonsense any longer on /pol/.
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>>130201666
>language evolution is a bad thing
i bet none of the LARPagans on /pol/ can have a discussion in ancient pagan languages
what's your point?
>>130202217
>using religion in your own political movement
dont confuse the 2
>>130205283
so i don't exist then?
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>>130206466
My point was mainly ad-hominem, but also your language dropped its tenses, which is pretty retarded, and i can speak Gaelic, so fuck off with that bullshit.
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>>130207038
yes but these changes happened mainly over the duration of the Ottoman occupation, and the new language was only official in the 80's
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>>130192954
Atheism turned Europe into cucks, inviting Islam into their nation.

Christianity led to the best heights ever achieved by Europe.

Paganism = white niggers.

It's clear what the option should be. You guys know that blacks do the same things as pagans? Blood sacrifices, blood rituals, cannibalism. Why do you think pagan whites were so close to niggers?
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>>130207781
Wrong, colonialism, and the Reformation did. The refgormation, only because it stopped the mainstream persecution of alchemists, who became inventors and scientists.
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>>130208242
yes, and reformation allowed rich jews to rise into positions of power, especially in states which opposed the Pope and Christianity. But somehow WE are the jewish puppets...
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>>130208242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws2GDT0Xr78

UK had widespread satanism. I'm not surprised the Islamic hordes have descended upon you.

Don't worry though, America will have it worse. When you watch America burn, remember this and repent.
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>>130207781
>You guys know that blacks do the same things as pagans? Blood sacrifices, blood rituals, cannibalism. Why do you think pagan whites were so close to niggers?

Why must people make assumptions about shit they don't know about?
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>>130209240
No, The democratic revolutions allowed that, by having 'civic nationalism' but i should also point out how the Hapsburgs were in league with the jews, whilst being the defender of Catholicism, and a powerful monarchist dynasty.
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>>130209304
>Implying i defend Catholic priests raping altar boys.
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>>130209906
"Democratic" revolutions.
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>>130209704
Sorry, but that is the exact truth.

White paganism is the equivalent of black Vodou.
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>>130209906
If Christianity is all about Jew worship, explain how the most Christian nations are the most anti semitic
>Hurr its the Muslims
if so, why is Sweden and Germany so low?
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Paganism is false. Whether or not it would be best for whites is irrelevant. I will never follow a false religion just because it's whites only.
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>>130210098
Catholicism is corrupted and satanic.

Just be a Christian. Spread Christianity and the saving grace of The Holy Spirit will return to Europe once more.
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>>130210100
>This guy gets it.
>>130210329
These happen to be countries that have historical hatred of the jews for embezzlement and suchlike, but notice that the most anti-semetic are the orthodox(or minority) countries.

Poland just hates fucking jews because they know the holocaust was a lie.
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>>130192954
Paganism is based on hallucinigenics and really should be used in a much more scientific environment. I'm not saying it's not a valid idea but the technology is better now and shamans don't tend the wounded doctors who are familiar with drugs do.

But Christianity allowed for this actual discourse to happen so there's something to be said about not honoring ones own heritage
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>>130210456
I defer towards Agnosticism, but only in a way that fulfils my morals, thus secular paganism is a much closer match to me than Christianity, which sucked money from the poor and scared to fuel its own ego.
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>>130210771
Yeah, every historian will agree Leonidas and Plato hated the Jews
or maybe this anti semitic hate was instilled by the Church itself, which has been part of Europe for 2000 years
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>>130211049
Orthodox Christianity is what i was referring to, but to disprove your point completely, Romans as far back as Cicero(108bc i believe) disliked the jews for the exact qualities they display even today, so it is natural and probable that over the years, the Jews have instilled much hatred of Jews in any populaces they deal with.
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>>130192954
Christianity indubitably sent the world into science-less dark ages
>b-but this monk resurrected ancient roman knowledge!
That's exactly the problem. Only religious entities were allowed access to knowledge, and only they had enough leeway to do any kind of experiments. Even then, the experiments were very limited and saying true things that didn't agree with the local church (i.e. different churches reacted differently) could get you excommunicated or worse.

The fact is, the world did best under paganistic nations: romans, greeks, egyptians, chinese, japanese, even indian and arab nations had extremely consequential, extremely rapid scientific development, the rate of which has only been recovered in the renaissance.

Finally, science boomed only after a worldwide separation of state and church and many pushes in favor of laicity in general.

From historical evidence, it should be obvious that christianity has been a distinctive unarguable net negative worldwide.
Additionally, from modern data, we also know that some regimes like islam are significantly worse today (as opposed to back in the golden era of the arab world) on that front.
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>>130192954
90% of pagans have no idea what they are doing,the other 10% are witches
DEUS VULT
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>>130211612
hmm, its almost as if anyone in contact with the Jews hates them.
If this is the case, then how would the people of Northern Europe be Anti semitic if they'd never seen jews before?
Its almost as if Christianity spread anti semitism across the continent,in places where no jew had set foot and those who opposed the religion also remained in the dark about the jews and their acts
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>>130212305
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>>130211924
Burn all the jews
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>>130212305
Or maybe after the Roman Empire Ousted the Jews after they revolted in 66−70AD and many fled to Europe, were they set down roots and swindled the locals, becoming filthy rich in the process, independent of christianity.
Your argument is based on the idea that people would not become wary of the jews after being Stinged by them, yet i already disproved this to you by showing that rampant anti-semitism was in the roman empire 100 years before jesus was even born...
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>>130212722
Every last one.
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>>130212533
Organised pagan worship really is LARPing, but that is not how it should be, at least not celtic or nordic paganism.
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>>130213154
People like to call Varg a LARPer, but he is more of a real Pagan and actually believes in stuff that he says, others tend to be scholars and dress up in uniforms, they try to bring back outdated ceremonies, while Varg focuses mostly on philosophical and spiritual aspect of it.
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>>130213580
Varg has the right idea, I guess i follow something similar to him, were i focus on the secular aspect rather than tree-hugging and dancing naked around a campfire, like the LARPers do, except they are likely following biased accounts of culture, not religion.
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>>130192954
I heard the Christians eat children and rape goats!
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>>130199637
The shit skins who made Christianity were indeed from the Jewish race
Not a straw man, that's pure historical fact
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