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/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL

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This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination.
Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists.
Anybody else is welcome to debate us.
Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such.
/lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too.
Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists.
All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us.

>SLOVAKBRO'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A
>FOUNDING FATHER'S PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8
>BRITISH ADVOCATE FOR DEREGULATION OF ASSAULT KITCHENWARE'S WEBPAGE: libertarianright.org
>DISCORD & BOOK CLUB: /jCVRCR3
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FAQ:
>Do you support open borders?
No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens.
>Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads?
The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money.
>Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour?
No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society.
>Are you Jewish?
No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck.
>What will you do when governments take over you/reform?
Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!
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Hail to /lrg/.
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RECOMMENDED READING LIST:
ECONOMY
>The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith
>A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say
>The Law by Fréderic Bastiat
>The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek
>The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe
>Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard
>Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell
POLITICS
>Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe
>Second Treatise of Government by John Locke
>Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick
>For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard
>Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell
>Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor
>What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe
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>>130183394
>libertarian
>right
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MEDIA:
GOOD TIER
>Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff
>Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism
>jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast
>youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T
GREAT TIER
>Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd
>youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda
>youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content
>youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right
>1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site
>youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux
>tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts
INFORMATIVE TIER
>mises.org - Mises Institute
>cato.org - Cato Institute
>propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society
>lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell
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VIDEOS:
>Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU
>Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY
>Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w
>Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo
>Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U
>Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - youtube.com/watch?v=E6r9ZjIoW1Q
>Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE
>Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI
>Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c
>1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw
>That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8
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(((Cucktalism)))
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MUSIC:
>Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8
>Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc
>I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o
>Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ
>I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo
>Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw
>Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc
>Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo
>Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0
>Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w
>Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM
>Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg
>Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc
>Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI
>Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM
>Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU
>Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo


MEMES:
>Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ
>Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU
>Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg
>Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns
>Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo
>Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY
>That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU
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>>130183967
>>130183719
And what (logically inconsistent) ideology would you two be involved in?
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>>130183967
>Julius "No Kids" Evola
>Right wing
pretty much a bitter old cripple cuck.
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Hello, guys. I'm a Classical Liberal who's economically Centrist. I want to kick out all extremist Muslims and close the borders.

A-am I welcome?
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>>130185200
>Economically Centrist
>Liberal
>Flag
>Only wants to kick out extremist muslims
No. sorry.
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>>130185413
I'd like to have them all gone, but unfortunately they have individual rights too
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>>130185200
Sorry Sargon, you're not cool enough.
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>>130185200
I mean, I gues -
>flag
Nevermind.
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>>130185580
All muslims want sharia law, if they don't they are muslim in name only. Sharia is incompatible with individual liberty. they are not welcome.
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>>130185200
>classical liberal
>economically centrist
Fuck off
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>>130183394
Is this Judaism general?
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>>130185651
Please, guys.....
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Evening lads, hope everyone's having a freedom loving day
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>>130186043
>economically centrist
>libertarian right
No
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>>130185200
You have a chance to repent on your mistakes.
Take the gold-and-black pill.
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>>130186033
Here you go mate

>>130184118
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>>130186224
B-but I support individual liberty and private property rights....
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>>130186388
I was a Right-wing Libertarian for a while, but I drifted to the Centre economically
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>>130186531
Why?
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>>130186418
heh, I'll admit that was pretty funny.
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But whom'st'll've build the roads?
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Reminder to watch this very important video from Mike Maloney and follow the link in the description to get a free digital copy of his great book on investing in Gold and Silver:

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Also watch his series "Hidden Secrets of Money" if you haven't already, they're are a must watch:

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Is anyone else at the point where any anti-libertarian argument sounds absolutely retarded? You can point out how the state is immoral, and they'll respond with: "muh roads."

Is it even worth arguing from principle, or should we go full retard when arguing with leftists?
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>>130186434
No, you don't. You're basically a national socialist without the totalitarian state. If you really supported individual liberty and property rights you'd support economic freedom. Fuck off
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>>130186641
Hayek is my nigger
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>>130186848
It's healthy to consider alternative viewpoints and I never immediately dismiss someone else's opinions as "retarded". After all, the essence of being a Libertarian is all about individual freedom and liberty - that includes the right of every man to their own views.
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>>130186848
I'm too jaded to have an honest conversation with them anymore. Just say whatever is necessary to shut them up.
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>libertarian right general
holy shit I heard rumours that 4chan's /pol/ became utter reddit and normie infested garbage but sweet jesus this is just pathetic

when did ancap and libcucks become normalised on this board?
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>>130187317
>>130187272
>>130187228
This is why fascists are cool.
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>>130186848
I used to be one of those guys, thought ancap was a meme, took this piss etc. You never know who's lurking and actually listening, mate.
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>>130186641
Because I don't think one extreme either way is the right way to do things. I think free tuition for STEM degrees, unemployment and utility benefits, universal healthcare for those who can't afford the private option, public infrastructure spending, and regulations for food safety and government quality standards, government back-to-work programmes and grants, and social housing for the homeless are all things that can heavily aid the poor and encourage labour participation.

On the other hand, I think low taxes across the board are a great idea, and I think we should have mostly deregulated markets.I think we should give tax breaks to landlords to encourage rentals so we don't have to build as much social housing. I think we should encourage health insurance companies to provide free birth control as part of their healthcare plans through tax cuts rather than simply force them by government mandate.

Sorry for the long-winded post
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What does /lrg think, is morality objective or subjective?
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>>130187391
The moment they got better arguments than the rest
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>>130187391
Newfag. Always been libertarians here...
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>>130185840
>in name only...
Alot of people are religious in name only, fuck face.
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>>130187605
thou shalt not commit logical fallacies
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>>130187391
Thanks for outing yourself as a newfag.
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>>130187626
Subjective. No one who claims morality is objective ever provides evidence.
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>>130187391
There has been a strong Libertarian presence on this board since day one. It seems you're the one outing yourself as a newfag, edgy "fascist".
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>>130187809
Explain, nigger
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>>130186747
Brazil planning to build their first one or what?
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>>130187228
You didn't include half of the quote to fit you agenda. No better than the kikes you claim to be against, are you?

Imagine being so deluded you have to trick yourself into thinking your ideology is somehow correct.
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>>130187626
I'm a closet objective fag, natural rights yo.
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>>130187749
And?
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>>130187272
Wish the state limited itself to telling you to not litter.

>>130187855
I agree, natural law must be based in objective, refutable truths.

>>130188012

Alright, let's engage, how do you compatibilize this with right of dissociation?
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>>130187996
Old poll. Also, I was in that thread, it was literally a war between two faggots with botnets. Here's the real poll.
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>>130187626
Very difficult. Like deontology vs consequentialism, I can think of cases where either might apply. This has been an issue in AI design - you'd better make sure an AGI has a human friendly ethical component, but we haven't been able to find a consistent set of ethics for us...
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>>130187711
This.

2011 had twice as many libertarians and AnCaps.
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>>130183394
>ayn r*nd
>crypto kike anti-nationalist
no thank youu
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>>130188229
Are you seriously posting a poll with 27 votes?

The poll you're quoting is from a couple of months ago.
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>>130188200
>how do you compatibilize this with right of dissociation
Because it doesn't infringe on anyone's negative rights.
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>>130188229
>Libertarian Left

Why this meme still exist? You simply can't enforce the suppression of the free market without an authoritarian state.
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>>130187626
Natural law is objective.

>>130187605
What the hell is your pic related to? Also, what you mention - how are you funding this?

>>130188334
Agreed. Pic related is better.

>>130188229
>Less than 100 votes
Once again proof you people are more subversive than kikes.
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>>130188200
I don't see it as an objective right to be involved with someone or their property if they don't want you to. No infringement of rights here.
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What happens to the disabled, the unemployed, and the elderly who didn't save for retirement in the glorious Libertarian utopia?
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>>130187605
Don't apologise for an explanatory post mate, discussion is welcome here. The issue with anything free, is of course it isn't - someone somewhere is paying, probably via taxes. Isn't it better to remove the tax burden, and let people use the extra wealth in the free market, eg for health insurance etc?
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>>130187711
>>130187856
>muh Ron Paul posting
doesn't change the fact that libertarianism was always regarded as an inferior ideology that is heavily influenced by jews (and supportive of civic nationalism)

but seriously now when did shit like this happen to this board?
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>>130188575
Also, libertarianism is based on private property rights, and the left wants to abolish private property.
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>>130188615
>What is your pic related to
Nothing. It's just aesthetic.

>How are you funding this
Through taxes and a small amount of low interest borrowing, along with cutting the size of government in non-necessary areas to balance the budget
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>>130187855
As an objectivist, I'd say that morality in a person that is able to think is subjective and objective at the same time.
If one doesn't know what I mean then it isn't - in his case...
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>>130188489
>>130188575
>>130188615
Sample size is shit but it's still more reliable than a poll between two faggots with warring botnets.
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>>130188716
Gutter oil.
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>>130188905
How do I into objectivism? I can't read one of that chicks long ass books.
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>>130188716
They can rely on community, church or whatever for limited aid. You know, the traditional and superiour ways of providing aid.
In the case this is unavailable, well, they die huh? Really, you'd be a fool not to have invested: mutual aid societies can provide these things at an incredibly cheap price.
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>>130185200
>flag
*vomit avalanche*

>>130186641
Keynesian economics only works in moderation. In the same vein that too much and too little taxation causes a decrease in the economy, too little welfare and government control results in the situation britain was in circa 1900 whereas too much results in the soviet union where everyone is poor or simply a society where the working citizenry toil to support the lazy. The only answer is facism/natsoc which finds the sweet spot between personal freedoms (nazi guns laws were less restrictive than the weimar's etc) and the degeneracy of an unrestricted society.
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>>130188716
It's not supposed to be a utopia, faggot; however, there would be this thing called "charity." Have you heard of it?
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>>130188716
Their family, friends, community will help them out voluntarily. Like it's been for millennia. Unless they're assholes, then fuck them.
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>>130188725
There are two problems I see with a totally free market:

1. It leaves anyone who can't afford private essentials such as healthcare and education, as well as the disabled and who need to rely on a fixed income, screwed. Charities are not and never have been enough. I remember my history book in Secondary School a few years ago went into this. And I remember it specifically because it explained how when President Reagan cut funding to social welfare programmes, private charity did not fill in the gap. Not only that, but charity relies on voluntary donations, which means someone on a charitable income might get fluctuation amounts weekly and there may not be able to budget for anything. So that's why I think we need a social safety net.

2. Yes, it would require taxation, but I think taxation currently is far too high in the Western world. For example, I know the UK and Ireland have similar tax rates so I'll use where I live-Ireland-for example. I think the 20% bottom income tax rate could be reduced to 10%, and the top rate could be reduced from 40% to 20%, and you could still provide what I've outlined provided you cut bureaucracy and privatised non-essentials such as transport. Property taxes shouldn't exist.
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>>130188615
>Natural law is objective.

Agree. Natural law imo is a set of moral values that cannot be denied.

>>130188709
So even though you believe there's objectivity in moral values, you would not impose it onto others?

Or did I miss something?
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>>130188716
do they lack a family? do they lack a community? we only need support such people by government means in our current countries because there is no trust, due to jewish subversion of demographics and culture.
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>>130188771
This is rw libertarianism, all the commie removal, with none of the bootlickery.

>kikes
Yes, guys like von mises and rothbard were Jewish, but most kikes don't rail against gibs, diversity and affirmative action. Pic related

>civic
If someone can make their way in ancapistan with voluntary association (ie freedom to discriminate), no welfare, a true level playing field etc, I got no problem with them. Of course who thrives in that environment?
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>>130189666
>President Reagan cut funding to social welfare programmes

You need to go back to a time before the welfare state. People used to have actual communities and strong familial bonds. The welfare state destroyed that.

Of course people are reluctant to help strangers.
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>>130188905
How can you have something that's objective and subjective at the same time?

Do you mean a minimum standard for morality (e.g. murder, rape and theft are all objectively wrong)?
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>Hans Herman Hoppe
>Employed by the government but wants to abolish it
>No wife or children yet preaches family values

Before you say this is ad hominem. There can be lots of parallels to be made with the likes of Karl Marx or even Che Guevara. They preach revolution and people power yet they come from considerable wealth, and they essentially get money because people are stupid enough to listen to them. It's like twitch whores, but ideology in the place of tits. People will buy it up because it's counter culture and cool and guns'n'shiet. But it's easy to see the flaws.
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>>130189777
>So even though you believe there's objectivity in moral values, you would not impose it onto others?
he was talking about the right of dissociation being compatible with natural law.
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>>130189666
I realise my spelling is fairly shite here. Sorry, I'm a bit steamed up on drink
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>>130189777
I'm sorry, I don't know what you're getting at. There is no contraction with objective moral values and Libertarian ethics. It's pretty much the same thing.
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>>130190098
Think harder.
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>>130188948
No it isn't. In fact, there's no evidence at all for 'muh warring botnets!!' - Are you going to argue like a man, or just spam subversive memes? Begone.

>>130189408
Seems like a middle ground fallacy to me. Currently those claims are just that - claims, not arguments. And I would certainly counterclaim that less taxation is almost always universally better.

>>130189666
Private charity suffers from many regulations that make it less effective. Are you aware of the demise of lodge practice? See http://www.freenation.org/a/f12l3.html if not. Quite frankly, if charity is not enough to support them, I feel they don't deserve the support. Morally, nobody is entitled to anyone else's wealth.
Trips checked.

>>130189777
Also gonna check those.
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>>130190180
Hoppe isn't exactly rich now. Also, he has a wive. Granted, she's a turk, but still.
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>>130190453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0sBS0K5f4I
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>>130190180
>govt
Hoppes a professor at the university of nevada, mate
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>>130190180
Hoppe has a wife and a child.
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>>130189666
totally free markets are proven to be inferior to slightly restricted ones, see germany's being more prosperous than britain around 1900 despite britain being essentially more wealthy due to britain nearly entirely lacking support for the lower echelons of society. However, it is also partially true what >>130190075 said, but I would add the qualifier that people tend to help each other far less than in cities, where welfare is required to keep large numbers of the working class above the poverty line.

>>130190629
the level of taxation that is most effective does tend towards the lesser I fully agree, the only issues that it face today are the wasteful government programs and stupid things like speedbumps and foreign aid. Nazi germany again was a sterling example of effective taxation, not over the top, but enough for the essentials of government support.
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>>130191380
far less *in* cities that should read
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>>130191380
What services does the government provide that are essential i.e. the free market cannot provide?
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>>130183394
When will you guys admit that you're just trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole?
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>>130183394
dumb frogposter
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>>130188716
They have friends and charities they can turn to. It's like the homeless in America, who eat quite well despite their condition.
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>>130191978
Not an argument, faggot.
>Hayek
>Bastiat
>Jews
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>>130188716
They die while starving and in pain, but I don't give a shit cuz I got mine.
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>>130191978
Who care's that they're jews?
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>>130191978
Bad Jew research. Bastiat and Hayek are not Jews, and you forgot to mark Mises as a Jew.
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>>130190718
>>130190942
He does have a wife? Can I have pics?
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>>130193096
I don't have pics on my phone, look it up. Pretty easy to find.
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>>130191786
it is less that the free market *can* provide them and more that it doesn't (not at a cost the working class can afford), at least historically. 1900 Britain is the examplar of this. People and indeed entire families were often malnourished because they simply had no money, due almost entirely to things like trade slumps or the death of the family's wage earner. Seebohm Rowntree did a study to find out the reasons for poverty, and only about 1% of those below the 'poverty line' were there because they were idle or criminal. Additionally there are the little things that people might not want to spend money on, especially when poor. For example, mere health checkups at schools identified thousands of cases of measles and the like before major symptoms showed.

Roads are a bit of a meme here it's true, but in my experience when a road is communally owned, the owners do not band together to pay for its upkeep. I was in a parish council for a while, and I saw that much with my own two eyes.
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>>130183394
ANCAP WALLED COMMUNIT WHEN?
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>>130193096
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Just stopping by to say GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH
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>>130193361
Taxation is theft, unless it's for a wall!
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>>130191786
Infrastructure, social safety benefits, housing for the homeless (who have no capital and thus cannot purchase homes or rent, since rent is so high)
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>>130193648
who said we'll be paying for it with taxes?
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>>130193265
Personally I believe in the Austrian school in that historical situations are often very lacklustre in describing economics.

>>130193666
Are you 'who will build the roads'-ing me? Welfare is a meme.
Checked, your second pair of satanic trips in this thread.
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>>130183394
honestly im interested how would hoppe deal with degeneracy
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>>130191786
Possibly electricity and infrastructure, although water has been successfully privatized in Chile so I'm beginning to doubt that they need to be public.

Borders are essential though, and not to keep illegal immigrants out, but rather to keep foreign governments from using their immense resources to buy plots of land from ancapistan, thus slowly but permanently enroaching upon the land until it is smaller and smaller.
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>>130193971
I'm not challenging you, I'm just stating fact.
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>>130194201
Forced exclusion AKA physical removal AKA faggots get off my lawn before I shoot you.
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>>130194201
>how would hoppe deal with degeneracy
By forming a community that expels degenerates, letting them rot in their filth somewhere else.

>>130194259
Borders are completely different in ancapistan. The very concept of 'open borders' is necessarily a statist concept. Private property is discrimination.
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>>130194009
Kek, it keeps happening. I guess the Kekistani flag is channelling his power.

Anyway, no, I'm just saying these are clearly effectively performed by government
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>>130194981
Are you saying our current system is 'effective'? I disagree.
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>>130188229
>comparing a poll of 27 votes to a poll of 4800
Dishonest like a fucking kike
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>>130195067
Not the current system, no. It's too bureaucratic and government still encompasses too much of the economy. I'd ideally like to see regulation rolled back and see transport privatised. Private buses and trains are just as good and often cheaper (although definitely slower in my town)
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>>130195067
Not the current system, no. It's too bureaucratic and government still encompasses too much of the economy. I'd ideally like to see regulation rolled back and see transport privatised. Private buses and trains are just as good and often cheaper (although definitely slower to take off from a bus stop in my town)
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>>130188575
Left libertarians maintain this view that libertarianism means a lack of hierarchies and masters, unlike right libertarians who maintain that libertarianism means self-ownership (from which private property rights follow, of course).
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>>130194009
while historical allegories are not 100% accurate for the modern world, there still is great poverty in Britain due to the failings of the welfare state, but the solution cannot be the abandonment of society's cheapest labourers because all great civilisations are built off of cheap manual labour. Obama was the personification of the modern welfare state, foolish and greedy, not understanding the point of welfare to begin with, he and his voters snubbed the lower classes because they were republican 'hicks', but the solution should not and could not be a return to Herbert Hoover. The libertarian right principle of carefully controlled immigration cannot be sustained if the lower classes are not supported at least in part by the government, as the realities of modern life have stripped away the communities that used to protect them.
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>>130194596
>>130194711
no anons i already knew that its just would it work the exclusion of degenerates how would it look like would a city throw out a tranny?
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>>130193566
Intelligent and qt. She seems very laid-back. Hans is a lucky man
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>>130185840
Theyre completely allowed to have Sharia communities on their own property and you cant do anything about that.
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>>130195877
The same way.
most property will have an owner and tenants the owner sets the rules.
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>>130196039
But, by the same token, if they try to enforce Sharia law on the unwilling, such as throwing acid in women's faces or killing those who leave Islam, they have violated the NAP and will be hunted down by private RWDS.
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>>130183546
I believe that psychedelic drugs can be used sparingly for psychological betterment and therefore should be legal. Other than that I agree. What does that make me?
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>>130196451
You can form a community full of like-minded people. It will probably end up worse, but y'know.
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>>130196373
>spend £££ on private RWDS
>give them all shitty ergonomics: the gun
for what purpose
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>>130196321
yes but wider society would still remain degenerate outside a few sane enclaves were land owners would throw them out would it not? its not that i disagree with Hermann Hoppe i could see his solution work here very easy i live in a small community but what about the whole nation wider society
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>>130196826
Maybe warbots work better with the gun?
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>>130197658
The only reason to have less powerful rounds is to manage recoil and to carry more rounds for the same weight. But if you have warbots then you would give them guns with big cartridges because they can handle the recoil far better than a normal human, as well as carrying far more weight.
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>>130195940
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>>130198376
I didn't create the gifs, I just use them. If it were me, I'd give them all a M249.
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Replace government tyranny with corporate tyranny, nice
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>>130188771
>but seriously now when did shit like this happen to this board?

From day one until Trump's nomination when all of the cancer arrived, you utter fucking newfaggot. The election is over--go back or stop shitting up our board.
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>>130196699
Makes sense. We can make a killing treating all the alcoholics and junkies from the other group.
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>>130188771
>doesn't change the fact that libertarianism was always regarded as an inferior ideology

Then how to you explain the United States becoming the most envied country on earth with the most inventions and highest living standards?

I mean you realize when this happened the federal government was less than 1/10th the size right? There was no EPA, IRS, DEA, FDA, DHS, DOE, etc. The government was so small you could barely see it.

In fact when Thomas Jefferson was the president no one in the US paid any taxes whatsoever, the government was funded through import taxes.
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>>130197373
I don't think Libertarianism is going to erase degeneracy world wide, I do think property rights dramatically increase social discrimination. The conservatives will have theirs and the degenerates will have their own failing society.
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>>130200447
well see i did not mean at world wide i dont care but at the nation level there would still be degenerate enclaves remaining or in worst case sane one while the rest is degenerate proprty rights do allow for discrimination but can work both ways
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>>130201058
I don't believe humans are degenerate by nature. Surely there will be aspects of degeneracy that might survive but the root cause of degenercy is state funded leftist propaganda and welfare. If you think people are natural trannies and fags then I don't have an answer that will satisfy you. I am confident that state welfare is the main cause of sick lifestyles.
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Bump
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>>130202164
most people are degenerate and degenerate behavior does not begin and end with trannies and fags from substance abuse high abortion promiscuous behavior propaganda has its place but i can be effective if people have a natural leaning towards degenerate behavior by nature
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>>130187626
Natural law is objective in my opinion.
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>>130202905
I disagree, it is human nature to survive. Everything man does he does for success or profit. The welfare state acts like porn on your brain. You no longer need to better yourself because the state gives the illusion of prosperity. Degeneracy is a product of boredom. Man without a journey or destiny withers into self destruction.
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>>130190180
Hoppe has two children. His wife is from Turkey I believe.
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I'll go ahead and post my FAQ so you newfags don't ask us about welfare for the poor or how to deal with monopolies.

FAQ -- Every question you could have about Anarcho-capitalism, answered in one single book.

https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/03/21/reactionary-liberty-robert-taylor/

>Why reactionary libertarianism and not Fascism?
Introduction

>How would ancaps deal with cultural Marxists and other subversive attitudes?
Chapters 4 and 5

>But about what about limited government and constitutions?
Chapters 6 and 7

>But what about the poor, the sick and the elderly?
Chapter 10

>You guys are globalists and support open borders right?
Chapter 13

>Without the state regulating the market, who will stop corporations?
Chapters 3 and 9

>Okay, you've convinced me. Now what do we do?
Chapters 11, 12, 14 and 15.
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>>130204751
Currently reading it. Cool book.
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>>130203985
>Turkey

wtf I hate libertarianism now
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>>130204751
o shit its that portubro. wassap.
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>>130204963
Meme all you want but the place Hoppe lives in (Bodrum) seems comfy as fuck.

>>130205021
Wassap my negro.
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>>130183546
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>>130183546
>a vetting system
Kind of like we have now? Haha yeah so much for being prowhite fuck off.
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>>130205481
>>130205510
>samefagging
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>>130183394
Okay, so realistically ancapistan is never going to be a thing on any nation's land, but seasteading and spacesteading are looking like promising alternatives for the future, so has any progress been made on that front?
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>>130202905
All of those behaviors only increased with state encroachment in the economy and in society. Go read Democracy The God That Failed, Hoppe talks about how the signs of decivilization have accompanied the rise of democracy.
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>>130205631
Do t oh know how ID's work?
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>>130205854
Don't kid me, nobody ever replies to the FAQ so don't expect me to believe that within a minute it got two related replies completely independent of each other.
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i know video games are degenerate and I'm massively late to the party, but I need to know if this makes sense:

>Mr. House: Hoppean Ancap (strict control of one's private property)
>NCR: Democrats
>Caesar's Legion: Fascists
>Yes Man: Radical Centrism
>Brotherhood of Steel Mojave Chapter: Neocons
>Boomers: Boomers
>Followers of the Apocalypse: Ancoms
>Great Khans: pure anarchy
>Powder Gangers: no idea, just a bunch of criminals

thoughts?
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>>130205243
shits good my man. writing a small essay on Left libertarians, their love of public property and Open borders. My last image wasn't explicit enough, Shit-libs keep telling me i'm wrong about immigration and it got my jimmies rustled. I've read every libertarian argument for or against open borders on the internet. I feel confident now that my Open Borders 2.0 will be irrefutable within the frame of property rights and non-aggression. Any libtard who reads this thing will either have to drop open borders or property rights.
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>>130206044
I did because the faq is retarded same with snap shit
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>>130205510
ask me about open borders. I dare you.
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>>130205746
The Seasteading Institute signed a deal with the French Polynesia to build an autonomous seastead by 2020 or 2022. They recently signed the documents and the government has supported them. They had to prove seasteading helps the continental economy and the marine resources. You should also check out Free Private Cities. Realistically speaking a pure AnCapistan is not possible because all land has been claimed and the level of corruption and degeneration is so big it would be almost impossible for people to collectively realize AnCapism was the right way. We're left with secession, nullification, private government, and a push for the creation of more special economic zones and charter cities. Anything that gives rise to interstate competition is welcome.
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>>130206110
Yesman anarcho-centrism. Video games are fine as long as your healthy.
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>>130206180
Great! I look forward to reading it. I'm sure it'll be a great smash

>>130206110
Correct. And daily reminder that if you chose anyone other than Mr. House you deserve to be left to die on a shallow grave like the Courier. The Power Gang was more of a Mad Max esque band of criminals than anything else.
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>>130205510
You think the U.S. has an extencive vetting system now? hahaha!
Maybe that's the reason the U.S. if flooded with sewage.
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>>130207055
we basically have open borders for anyone who isn't european.
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>>130205631
nope

Tell me wise sage of Libertarian greed. who prevents the tower block fires in your utopia?
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>>130207290
And that system does not reflect the wishes of real property owners.

>In terms of specific immigration restrictions, Hoppe argued that an appropriate policy will require immigrants to the United States to display proficiency in English in addition to "superior (above-average) intellectual performance and character structure as well as a compatible system of values".[37] These requirements will, he argued, result in a "systematic pro-European immigration bias". Jacob Hornberger of the Future of Freedom Foundation opined that the immigration test Hoppe advocated would probably be prejudiced against Latin American immigrants to the United States.,[38] due to cultural differences between Americans and Latin Americans and the fact that Latin American nations have lower average IQ's than Europeans and European-descended Americans.
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>>130207462
if you move into an uninsured and unapproved block you deserve to die
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>>130190031
Don't spit on fellow travelers m8.
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>>130185580
>Communist, muslim exc.
>invidual rights
kek
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>>130187317
>not knowing Paris Hilton runs her own company that's worth over a billion dollars
Kill yourself my dude
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>>130207532
Lol, butthurt low IQ latin americans. you gotta sauce for that quote?
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>>130207718
>uninsured and unapproved
Does insurance stop you dying in a the fire?
Approved by who?

Face it you are a souless walking meme.
The nation would be better if you died.
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>>130208513
Approved by private regulation companies? Don't talk shit to what you know nothing about, kike.
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>>130187605
Most of us believe we need back natural law, and basically no work - no food.

You have no fucking right to steal money from my hard work to feed some nigger who's going on a rampage next monday.
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>>130207532
Nvm I found it
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>>130187626
Objective and use catholicism as it, is my way.
The moment you make morality subjective is the moment your civilization falls appart to someone who's morality isn't subjective.
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>>130208513
Not the same guy, but:
>Does insurance stop you dying in a the fire?
Does government?
>Approved by who?
Me
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>>130208687
>if you move into an uninsured and unapproved block you deserve to die
> Don't talk shit to what you know nothing about, kike.

You are the cancer. I know that much.
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>>130208925
May I ask where you lie politically?
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>>130208513
https://mises.org/library/idea-private-law-society
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>>130195443
This.>>130195704
Which is why the left was, is and always will be retarded.
>>130188771
>Muh jews argument
Yeah a jew who is against the welfare state, against the theft, against monopolies and against everything that lets these subhumans rule us is really a KIKE RIGHT?
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>>130208882
Keep shill for less regulation like the rest of your kind.
You'll die from it hope.

>>130209046
Wherever you're not.
I don't believe in buying an ideology and wearing it's badge.
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>>130205746
When we destroy socialism only ancaps will want to reach the stars.
LET'S GO!

A NA DRZEWACH ZAMIAST LISCI, BĘDĄ WISIEĆ KOMUNISĆI!
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>>130209375
t. spineless cuck
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>>130208513
The niggers would be beter of if you ruled.
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>>130209386
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>>130209450
You want me to chose a label?
This is closest.

>>130209472
Everyone would be worse off if you ruled.
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>>130209815
Hard working people would be much better off if I ruled, not my problem you're a filthy degenerate sucking on the goverment's tit.
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>>130209375
>less regulation
I would- and will not move to- or buy anything not inspected by me or someone whos knowledge and intelligence I trust. No regulations needed there.
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>>130208513
Well considering that the sprinkler system wasn't installed because of government incompetence the fire might never have happened if it was privately owned.
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AN CAP TRAP HAREMS WHEN?!?!

> SATURDAY'S FOR NOT-SO-GAYS
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>>130209168
Heres your paste response to muh jews if you wanna shut them up.

>Libertarianism is a tool of Zionism

STOP GLOBALISM.
ABOLISH CENTRAL BANKING.
END THE FED.
GAS THE STATE
NONE of this helps Zionist control. We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do.


>"The Jewish Question" by Life Love and ANARCHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o
>Documenting Anti-Semitism Within the Libertarian Movement:
https://chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html
Even our favored jews are blasted for being token jews, anti-semites and racists by jews in high places.
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>>130210068
Thanks man.
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Hey guys what would trans and lgbt rights look like in an AnCap Society? :v)
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>>130210061
Get the fuck out of here. No one wants part of your trash you left-libertarian scum. You represent us in disastrously distasteful ways. Stop jacking off to trannies, pick up a fucking book and sort yourself out.
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>>130210068
>We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do
Natsoc don't challenge anything, but help their cause really
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>>130210301
There'd be societies where these degenerates hide, and then there'd be where I live.
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>>130210393
How do they help them, other than giving them a victim card?
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>>130210301
Theres no such thing as tranny rights. We only believe in property rights. All civil rights garbage is exactly that.
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>>130210301
>>130210454
I wouldn't know, cuz I'd never see or hear anything about them.
Pretty sure there would not be many at all.
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>>130210061
Fuck "muh degeneracy" meme, i'm in.
>>130210301
Same as everyone. They can parade all fucking day, if property owner agrees. Same for you tho.
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Which country is worse, China or Germany?
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>>130210528
>other than
But that is their biggest thing since the 1930s or even sooner.
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>>130210832
Germany. As long as China remains free-market, it will be unquestionably the wealthies country to live in in a few decades.
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>>130210036
>>130210039
>>130210056

It's always government you blame when things go wrong.

You live in a fantasy world where it is never the greed of contractors building with unsafe materials

This fire would have been contained and put out if a flammable cladding hadn't need installed.

Cling to you ideology, hell is your destination in this life or the next.
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>>130210763
in the fucking trash with you too. you make make me sick.
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>>130210832
China. They regulate fucking child births and are corrupted af. They are more corrupted then Russia, and i'm Russian.
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>>130210068
>GAS THE STATE
The things we are going to need to do require state power dumbass. Holy shit you retards lack the most basic critical thinking.

If you end the fed it won't matter because capitalism is just another soulless materialistic Judaic construct. The whole point of anarchism is a world where the state can't kick Jews out of their countries. You retards are just dupes, useful idiots.
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>>130211016
>government decides not to put fire safety systems in their building
>fire kills 30 people
IT'S THE CORPORATIONS!

Pretty sure commies like you are the ones going to hell, bub.
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>>130210301
They do what they want, as long as they don't do it in the street and scare the horses. Except in a covenant that excludes them, pic related
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>>130211016
Not an argument because you misrepresented my position. When a terrorist blows up I don't blame the goverment, I blame the goverment for letting this fuck in beforehand exc.
>>130211142
>bunch of adhominems, no meritorical arguments
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>>130211142
>The whole point of anarchism is a world where the state can't kick Jews out of their countries.
>their countries
thats right, they can go fuck up their land, not mine. idiot.
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>>130210301
All of those "rights" are positive rights and therefore not rights at all. Those rights you speak of always entail coercion on property owners (compulsory gender neutral bathrooms, compulsory surgeries, compulsory inclusiveness, compulsive weddings). We believe in property rights and negative rights.

Traps would have to shut the fuck up and be productive members of society just like the rest and not be a pain in the ass for the rest of us.
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im happy this society will be free of hate thank you for replying
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>>130211066
Hehe, you're just like SJWs with their "muh feelings" attidute. Can't handle freedom?
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>>130211016
>It's always government you blame
But I don't blame anyone.
I don't care if some idiots burn in their shitty apartments,desu.
>>130208882
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>>130210982
Germany's 26th in economic freedom, China is 111th. If China would just adopt the same policies they set for Hong Kong they would outpace the USA in a heartbeat, but the communist government is so stuck in their old ways clinging to power so they continue to leave the nation a craphole of corruption.
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>>130183394
Why is Anarchyball banned? He seems like a reasonable enough guy.
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fuckin' rubes
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>>130211674
I think he's a bit....

*whispers*

left wing


.
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>>130211267
No my friend, hell is for the heartless.
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>>130211758
Like the government responsible for the fire that killed 30 people? And all the people who support that government?
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>>130211437
Kek I'm not sure about that you communist. The politicization of transsexuals and other deviants is one way the state manages to dilute the family structure so as to better isolate individuals and expropriate them. In my covenant deviants would be systematically repudiated and there would be far more hate and prejudice against these modernist lifestyles.
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>>130211674
Because anarchyball is reddit tier self affirming circlejerk shit
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>>130211758
Did you even read what he posted? IT'S THE FUCKING GOVERMENT WHO PUT THOSE REGULATIONS IN PLACE!
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>>130183719
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>>130211866
And all the while your kind are shilling for even less.

Disgusting.
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>>130211444
Is it possible that most of us here don't want our political position associated with mental illness, crossdressing, pornography and genital mutilation? You people are pure trash. All you needed to hear was "people won't bash my skull in for being a faggot" and you join in. What have you actually read? what have you actually contributed? NOTHING. You're a fucking larper that's only purpose is to deface a perfect philosophy . You're fucking trash, you'll never own property without the state, no one will tolerate your faggorty without anyone to stop discrimination. you'll end up in the fucking gutter like you belong.
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>>130211866
Either he's trolling us, or he just doesn't want to admit all the suffering the government has caused to their people by this point.
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>>130211833
I'm a Strasserist interested in Dugin's National Bolshlevism.

I got a strong respect for Lower-Right ideologies for their emphasis on social darwinism
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>>130212334
So you would support a law that mandated the killing all children in the UK?
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>>130212422
Yeah it's pretty obvious to men now. That's why we always win arguments IRL, nowhere to run, nowhere to hide, just facts, logic, and empirical evidence.
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>>130212444
>interested in Dugin's National Bolshlevism.
Your hate non-slavic whites ?
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>>130212384
>You're fucking trash, you'll never own property without the state, no one will tolerate your faggorty without anyone to stop discrimination. you'll end up in the fucking gutter like you belong.

Finally someone speaks some sense. Jesus fucking Christ the whole point of calling these generals RIGHT libertarianism is to weed out those LGBT faggot lovers. Keep that shit to yourselves yuck.
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>>130184131
>logical consistent
>he doesn't know societal models evolve organically
>he doesn't realize he's falling prey to the exact same mistake commies make
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>>130186641
my god, the 50s memes are coming back to life
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>>130183394

You are sociopaths, any such disregard for shared humanity could only be described as so.

...or follow impractical, unworkable ideologies. Paper fantasies.
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>>130212334
Can't you people make any decitions without some magically all-knowing entity called "government"?
How do you wake up in the morning without big-brother to tell you and hold your hand?
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>>130212384
>don't want our political position associated with
But fuck the poor, let them die in a fire, right?

>>130212541
Is this the mental illness he refers to. What makes you imagine that I would?
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>>130211758
>hell is for the heartless.
that explains german concentration camps.
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>>130212873
Sorry you're so pathetic you need to leech of the successful.
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>>130192253
tbqh, you guys are the ones arguing against the status quo, the burden is on you
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>>130212882
>But fuck the poor, let them die in a fire, right?
damn right. serves you poorfags right for not contributing anything.
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>>130183394
Also french guy here
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So here's an interesting read:

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/mar/26/what-most-private-city-world

>It is notoriously difficult to quantify and map the privatisation of space and place. Dubai, which must lay claim to being one of the most privatised cities in the world, is defined by its newness – and it is this newness which is generally an indicator of how private a place is likely to be. This is because today’s dominant economic model is reflected by high-security, privatised plazas which house shopping areas, conference centres and luxury apartments in an environment less reminiscent of the public realm than an airport lounge.

>In City of Quartz, his seminal 1990s study of Los Angeles, Mike Davis painted a dystopian picture of a high-security city: privatised enclaves and gated developments policed by armed guards. Such gated communities flourish in particularly polarised, segregated societies such as LA, which is one of the most ethnically and socially divided cities in the US.

(Nothing wrong with segregation imo)

>Gating, like all aspects of privatisation, is difficult to map. The American Housing Survey estimated that almost 11 million Americans live in gated communities, a figure many believe is much higher. Most gated communities are found in the sun-belt states: California, Florida and Texas.

>A number of these communities in the US have incorporated as separate entities, entirely independent from local government, meaning that they do not pay taxes and that all services, from rubbish collection to policing, are privately provided.
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>>130194711
>my son is a degenerate
>community wants my son out
>like a good cuck I either expel my son or my whole family is expelled
>ancap is great and not autistic
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>>130212384
>>130212630
>triggered
>insults instead of arguments
kek
You remind me of Russian conservatives. They are too all against "degeneracy", but they are also against economic regulation and shit. Conservative =/= Economic success, nobody cares about "faggotry" if you are skilled, get over it.
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>>130212616
nah, I'm just interested like I said.
Eurasianism on an ethnic level would never work, but Cultural Eurasianism is a different story.
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>>130213141
Archive please
https://archive.is/8ylfv
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>>130212882
>What makes you imagine that I would?
Well, who cares what YOU want? If majority- (or whatever "is" the government) would do it, it would be ok for you? Government and laws and regulations ARE always good for you, ey?
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>>130212880
>>130212963
>>130212939
>>130213096
>>130213247
I hope your ideology leads you to death.
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>>130203662
>reminder that libertarian meme ideology is based on a distortion of natural law, coming from Locke
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>>130213164
Shitty community you got bro, if they expel someone for actions he did not.
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>>130213223
Thank you Danish bot bro.
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>>130212882
>What makes you imagine that I would?
You support more government control regardless of the fact that it was the government's involvement that got all those people killed in the fire in the first place, ergo you want more government control with no regard to the lives of all the people who suffer under it.

You are not worthy of your flag. Even Thomas Aquinas supported the killing of tyrants such as yourself.
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>>130213301
>it's a Portuguese integralist comes to lecture us about organic society episode
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>>130213223
35 seconds. Your getting slow archivebro...
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>>130213164
Just move to a different community, or why did you move to that community in the first place?
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>>130213300
Why do you keep posting examples of something that happened under your shitty system as a problem with ours?
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>>130213347
>tyrants
Fuck, you are a lying piece of filth.
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>>130187317
Tesla wasn't very bright if he couldn't bring his inventions to market, or hire someone to do so, eh? The guy was mentally ill btw, read a book commie faggot.
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>>130213334
Then you cannot guarantee a degeneracy free community, m8.
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>>130213164
or you move to a better community. the only autism here is willingly staying in communities you don't like just to bitch about it
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>>130213300
you can only look at surface levels of the ideology that is why you get butthurt
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>>130213515
>I can predict every possibility in the first agreement
>I have no control over my son
>I am deported from my own home because of my son
Really makes me think
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>>130213164
>>my son is a degenerate
If you don't agree removing your AIDS filled son from the community you don't deserve to breed
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>>130213687
The society cannot impose any rules on you if they haven't presented those rules to you first. Stop acting like you're a DINDU NUFFIN victim.
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>>130213176
What have you read?
What have you contributed?

Nevermind. Fuck off faggot, there is no purpose in me trying to wake someone up so far below me. you're scum. If you act like a fucking nigger your future will reflect that.
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>>130213649
I hope you say that to the mexicans invading your town. "Oh, don't worry, I will just leave". Dear God.

This "just move" bullshit is being deported. This is a big deal to most people.
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>>130213300
>I want people to be free and successful as they can be and as they have potential
>You want people to be told what to do every second of their life, and hope me to die
Talkingbout mental illnesses..
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>>130213711
You guys are obsessed with control lol and you actually think you have it. No wonder you are lolbertarians.
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>>130213176
Keep your AIDS,your child sex slaves and your suicidal thoughts far from this thread sodomite
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>>130183394
t. Libertarian roastie
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>>130213176
>>130213076
Here's a few arguments.
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>>130213561
degenerates are without welfare and other public assistance, they are isolated and openly discriminated in public and from employment. The long-term is extremely anti-degenerate, it's just not as exciting as gassing them all in one go

Ancap IS eugenics

>>130213687
>I have no control over my son

except he's your son. Stop being a shitty parent and take responsibility or take your degeneracy elsewhere

>>130213855
>implying mexicans are allowed in the private town in the first place

retard
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>>130213855
If you were there first why should you leave and not the Mexicans be expelled? Haven't you read Hoppe or Rothbard on immigration and property rights? Clearly your knowledge of anarcho capitalism is very limited. So kill yourself.
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>>130214012
manchild detected
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>>130213141
wow thats pretty cool stuff, its even got ethnic voluntary ethnic segregation. imma save that article for sure.
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>>130213855
If you read the hoppe quote, it's specifically about 'habitually promoting' degeneracy within the context of a family centred covenant. Not just being a faggot - actively promoting faggotry

>>130211313
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>>130213956
Well,ancapistan or not If I had a degenrate child I would kick him out and unherit him. What's your point on control ?
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>>130213561
What community? Am I forced to be a part of some degenerate community? Not very ancap then?
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>>130213518
Because I see so called libertarians constant claiming that regulations are the problem and what we need is less.

If you had your way, when things like this happen they will always be this bad.

>>130213897
>>130213681
You can die too.
All you meme flag cowards talk big twist my positistion and lie abort yours..
I would relish the chance to deliver the sort dog eat dog "justice" you seem to love.
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>>130213795
Oh boy.
I have read a shitload, from Adam Smith to Mises to Friedman.
And I evade taxes, unlike you, taxcuck.
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>>130213786
And this is where the ancap ideology falls apart.

All contracts and agreements are written to be revised/negotiated later, because it's literally impossible for all possibilities to be accounted for.
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>>130213538
Whatever helps you sleep at night. Just know that sooner or later God will cut you down.
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>>130214321
You owe. Tell me why I don't take a pound of flesh.

>>130214381
Don't talk to be about God. You have no God.
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>>130214029
Ok, let me grab the title of all articles from top economics publications and show them to you. That's my argument. I win because I have more pages.

seriously lol
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>>130214303
>dog eat dog "justice" you seem to love.
What do you even mean by that?
Justice is justice, and should be based on reason, not your fee-fees.
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>>130214338
What the fuck are you talking about?
If you wrote your name under something that says "I *name* agree to anything this society says, for example removing of anything WE SAY is degenerate" then your son would deserve to be removed.

You cannot be forced into shitty deals, if you written your name under a shitty deal, it's because you're a shitty father.
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>>130214495
>You have no God.
Now you're speaking blasphemies. You're with the Devil, aren't you?
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>>130214321
get fucked. why don't you take a break for more pornography and self-loathing.
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>>130214495
I'm in fucking Russia mate, how I owe you. Nice Shakespeare reference tho.
Taxes here go for Putin's friends mansions anyway.
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>>130214303
This is an example of government regulations (and government in general) being inefficient. It is not an example of private regulations failing. Imagine if a private company caused a tragedy of this scale, they'd be done for good. But instead it was caused by the government, who will get off free.

Of course, none of this is going to convince you, because you're a mentally ill leftist. Your entire "argument" has been blaming us for something completely unrelated. That's literally all it has been, because you know nothing.
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>>130214034
>implying mexicans are allowed in the private town in the first place
No, your excuse is "oh, you don't like your community? Just move!" like it's no big deal. It's not. This is where your autism starts showing.

>Stop being a shitty parent and take responsibility or take your degeneracy elsewhere
Again, you assume way too much control.

>Ancap IS eugenics
You don't even need ancap for it.
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>>130214739
Cause I laugh at your powerless anger.
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>>130214562
Don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you don't read about the ideology at all. I understand that you literally don't care about actual policy, your worldview is based on feelings. But that's not my fault.
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>>130214069
You are being dense. I'm saying the "just move" cop out is dumb.
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>>130214259
>Autism
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>>130214303
>If you had your way, when things like this happen they will always be this bad.
People will always suffer from their stupidity, yes. But doing it my way, they would learn. (well not the most retarded, maybe)
Why not be responsible of yourself?
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>>130214280
You are forced to deal with coming generations. Unless you are assuming the kids will be carbon copies of their parents, you need to deal with them in some way.
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>>130214667
hahahaha
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>>130214754
Eto nye patamushta putin nenavidit pidorasaf Chto ti doljen sossat im huy bliat
Ti mojesh VITCH polutchit kozel
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>>130214910
cringe.
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>>130214910
Good luck with that trainwreck of a life you're leading.
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>>130215153
What are you laughing at?
I'm simply amazed at how stupid you can be.
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/lrg/ is comfy. Thanks for all the reading material and social media references. I'm ancap-leaning but need to be better versed and more active. Fight the good fight bros. Never give up and never surrender to collectivist coercion.
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>>130215008
Any conservative father from sixties was autistic back then ?
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>>130214942
Who told you I didn't read on it? Why are you assuming everyone who drinks the poison will be poisoned?

>your worldview is based on feelings
well, this is not even wrong, as the reason vs feelings dichotomy is bullshit
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>>130215316
The tree of liberty needs watering again!
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>>130214713
God is not with you.

>>130214754
Then you have my apologies but technically you are part of the problem.
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>>130215316
haha god bless you motherfucker.
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>>130215394
Well, did you read them? Have a refutal to the arguments in any of those books? Sure haven't shown any.
Getting defensive?
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>>130215367
>implying all fathers kicked their children out their homes
>implying the ones who did it framed it in a vengeful way like you did
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>>130215410
More blasphemy. You're definitely in line with Satan.
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>>130211066
>>130210377

>GTFO degenerate, remove :D
>b-but my NAP


>HODIO-BROMEO, DA FUCK OUT OF MY SERAGLIO
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>>130215306
I can say the same. You are completely clueless. Have you even ever signed a contract in your life?
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>>130215686
Of course I did, many, and it always said about what I was about to contract to.
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>>130215096
You really think kids have just randomly started to be faggots? With no reason outside them whatsoever? Hm? Now next - think about a community I'd live on ( and do right now, in a way)
Do you think I'd possibly be forced to interact with people I don't like?
Seems the example is too complicated for you to understand it from a wider view.
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>>130215530
Dear God. You sure frame it in such a way.
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>>130215179
Nu nihuya sebye, ktoto zdes govorit po russki.
>>130215410
I just see that my taxes go to shit and don't see any point in paying them. And only way to prevent taxes going to shit is abolishing taxes, cause power corrupts.
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>>130215928
Answer the question.
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>>130215559
Learn proper english you didn't get the fuck I have said
We're talking about degenerancy right ?
Let me quote myself
>A CONSERVATIVE father
Get it
Sure the hippie daddies would enjoy their kid being a faggot
The others kicked them out or beaten them the fuck out
Good times
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>>130183394
In b4 the thread dies...
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>>130215766
Of course "it did". The point is that no contract can ever cover everything; and no party will ever know everything about a contract, as all contracts are related to other writings (and I'm not going to say laws, unless your inner ancap self starts screaming). Post-contractual negotiations matter, post-contractual revisions matter, knowledge of the contract itself matters, knowledge of related writings matters. You guys seem to be completely oblivious to this, as I'm seeing "perfect contracts" implicit in everything you are writing.
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>>130216087
>beating them the fuck out
That breaking the NAP dude.
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>>130214877
it's not an "excuse", it's an option. If a community is shit, you move, if a community is good, you stay and manage things, negotiate, make compromises, deals, etc. You take responsibility for your actions instead of whining and bitching about "degeneracy" like it's someone else's problem but your own

>Again, you assume way too much control.

the entire point of AnCap is to give as much individual control as much as possible. Take responsibility for your actions.

>You don't even need ancap for it.

Yes, but AnCap is the most efficient at weeding it out in a more stable manner rather than reckless purges left and right. Not to mention more cost-efficient rather than government-sponsored eugenics.
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>>130183394
Cantwell is a fat disgusting fuck. I dont like him and cant respect him mainly because of the way he looks. If you cant have the self discipline to stop stuffing your face and making shitty decisions three times a day every day of your life, you are degenerate and I want you to not exist.
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>>130215996
Which one of the three? And look how we are arguing about nothing lol
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>>130216087
I am talking about conservative fathers, you mung.
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>>130216306
LOL cry about it, I wonder if the state would protect you faggot.
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>>130216300
If you don't believe in contracts then GTFO commie scum, this whole system would be built on voluntary contracts.
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>>130216087
Also, I like the father-son relationship you have going on.
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>>130216431
All of them? Just explain to me what you actually know about the ideology. Shouldn't be hard for you :^)
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>>130216532
That's why the system would fail. No possible system can be solely based on such a thing.
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>>130216306
>on my property I stated no faggots invited here son,you have three seconds to get the fuck out
>I don't give a shit,property rights are baddies because it don't accept my homosexua-
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>>130216344
>it's not an "excuse", it's an option. If a community is shit, you move, if a community is good, you stay and manage things, negotiate, make compromises, deals, etc. You take responsibility for your actions instead of whining and bitching about "degeneracy" like it's someone else's problem but your own
good cuck
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>>130216383
that's rude
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>>130216556
It was like that in France before Mitterand
My father told me about fags being expulsed
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>>130216344
>the entire point of AnCap is to give as much individual control as much as possible. Take responsibility for your actions.
my point: "as possible". Good luck on that.
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>>130216700
This current system is literally built on this, but it's not voluntary, you are retarded if you cannot comprehend this, no further arguments left for you.
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>>130216507
I'm no statefaggot lol, only idiots in Putinland are statefaggots.
I'm sure most of private judges will recognize this as a violation of the NAP. Then I'll just sold the claim to bounty hunters and they'll come and fuck your ass.
>>130216716
BEATING, ARE YOU BLIND, BEATING, of course exiling is legal.
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>>130216878
lol
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>>130216921
I'd love we could try your utopia so you could show to the whole world your delusion, just like the commies did.
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>>130216809
And true
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>>130217094
Not an argument, anarcho-capitalism is just libertarianism taken to it's logical conclusion. Communism is completely idiotic based on logical fallacies.
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