Michelle Carter: GUILTY

Who..

>>130180747
Guilty of giving me wood.

Does this mean we gonna get V& for telling someone to kys on here? Wtf is this shit. He was a fucking adult, not her fault he killed himself

>>130180747
Ayyy

>>130182556
Lmao

>>130182505
Nah. This is pretty special case. She instructed him on exactly how to do it. She listened to him die and did not contact the police or his family knowing this. Her conduct directly lead to his death. If i say kys online it's just an insult.

>>130182505
What she did elevated way above that.

This case sets dangerous precedent: that words alone are sufficient to establish culpability for crimes that historically have always required some kind of action.

>Call a nigger a nigger
>Nigger chimps out and kills someone
>Now you're an accessory to murder

>>130182953
Yeah, this bitch belongs in jail

Hope she enjoys it

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>>130182953
rake yourself leaf

>>130183028
except it wasn't words alone
it was a repeated pattern of behavior that bordered on malicious manipulation
harassment is already illegal

>>130180747
malfoy's a trans now?

>>130180747
She had been discouraging the act throughout their relationship up until a few weeks before he killed himself, after dealing with him talking about how he wanted to kill himself for a long while. She then suddenly began to encourage it, and she was unstable herself. I say something is at fault here and that she should receive a relatively light punishment.

>>130180747
No white woman deserves to go to jail. She should get mandatory community service servicing BBC like mine. Like if she services 10,000 black bulls like myself she repaid her debt to society.

>>130183353
Nah. Hope she gets 20 years or more

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>>130180747
I'm not sure why this is what I think about when looking at her face.

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>>130183028
She badgered him countless times over days and days saying he should kill himself and even attempting to help him do so.

This isn't calling someone a faggot and they kill themselves because of "muh bullying"

Intersting that she got done for omission. Normally you can't be found guilty of manslaughter by a *failure to act* (omission,) unless you have a duty of care; like for your children.
>"This court has found that Carter's actions and failure to act where it was her self-created duty to Roy since she put him in that toxic environment constituted reckless conduct," the judge said. "The court finds that the conduct caused the death of Mr. Roy."
They found she created a duty of care by being a bossy bitch who ordered him around and had ordered him into danger, therefore she had an obligation to save him. She did nothing, therefore she's guilty.

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>>130183485
t.

>>130182505
Only if you dominate the person so much you create a duty of care over that person, and then fail to act to save them.

What is her punishment???

WTF?

He was a weak-minded simpleton.

>>130180747
so how long in prison? if any?

>>130183028
They got her for omission, a failure to act:
>Dominating a person creates a duty of care
>Duty of care requires you to act to save them (like with your own child)
>Failure to act (omission) counts as actus reus for homicide

>>130180747
What was the meaning of that hairstyle?

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>>130180747
bitch BTFO

/pol/ can really relate to this guy, being told to kill himself

>>130180747
> Involuntary Manslaughter
> The act of unlawfully killing another human being unintentionally.

She didn't kill him though.

>>130180747
this is a bullshit case. if shes guilty his parents are also guilty for not seeing their son was having problems.

>>130180747
hope she is raped to death.

>>130184042
Its manslaughter so it's like 5 years I think. She'll probably get off in 2-3 years with probation. We'll have to wait for sentencing to know.

>>130183096
Faggot.

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>>130182953
Here faggot.

>>130183831
>>130184235

Interesting. That makes more sense.

>>130184522
She didn't killed him but she caused him to die

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>>130184522
it seems that being an insufferable cunt can be weaponized

>>130183028
You know nothing of the law, or at least this comment sure seems to demonstrate such.

>>130183832
Fuck you.

ETERNAL ROASTIE BTFO

What's the sentence?

>>130184560
Her crime wasn't egging him on it's the fact that she listened to him die and did not report it to anyone. That is definitely a crime.

>Tried as a minor
>Involuntary Manslaughter

100 hours community service, 2 years probation. Not a single second behind bars. The chick is a badass and you're all virgins grasping at straws.

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>>130182114
oh really

>>130184703
The carbon monoxide caused him to die.

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>>130182505
Yup

>The ruling, which may spur lawmakers to codify the behavior highlighted in the case as criminal, was closely watched by legal experts.

>>130184857
>>130184907

>>130184891
That might be failure to render assistance but not manslaughter.

>>130184637
That's some sick psychopathic shit she did though.

Who's willing to bet that prison won't change her at all and that she might become an absolute home-wrecker in the future???

Wow I really didn't expect /pol/ to side with the girl on this one.

Law and police are a joke now

>>130180747
roasties btfo

>>130184209
It's Massachusetts. You can rob the same bank twice and get sentenced to less than a year. The only people who do real time in Massachusetts are convicted of first degree murder or are convicted in Federal Court.

>>130185099

POO IN L- ohhhhh

>>130185022
>(((legal experts)))

What is up with her face and male hair line. Is she a tranny?

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>>130185099
Welcome newfriendo

>>130183353
Their "relationship" was more of an online thing and even thigh they lived an hour away from each other they'd only met in person 4 times in a year.
The guy was a psycho who not only talked about killing himself repeatedly he actually attempted it on at least 2 other occasions.
She just told him what he wanted to hear because she was tired of this creep and he killed himself. Live texted her the whole damn time too.

You would have told him to kill himself too. She isn't responsible for his actions and in no way liable for not getting help to him because that's not her job.

Fucking shit ruling and the only hope for a sentence is the judges you were a minor / youth comment as he read the verdict.

Most of what she did was okay in my eyes, but when he got out of the truck because he felt it working and it scared him, and she berated him into getting back in, that feels like it's crossing a line to me

>>130185055
Apparently there is some precedent for it being manslaughter in a case like this but yeah failure to render aid is what I would think on the surface too. It's an interesting case.

>>130185059
Actually, she's being charged as a minor so jail time is probably not in the cards.

He should have gone to an authority to make her stop. But I know the cops can't do anything until it gets physical. Women are ruled by emotions. They don't mean what they say half the time.

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>>130180747
>the patriarchy wins again

>>130184907
>'is a badass'
>known nationwide for being a narcissistic psychopath
>has a record that likely won't be sealed
>a record reporting a malicious crime
>'a badass'

No, what shes got is a lifetime of avoiding any and all courtrooms because she'll immediately be disfavored by every judge or jury, will likely never attain a livelihood beyond retail, and will be a social pariah. Meanwhile I've gained one more person who will be easy as fuck to prosecute somewhere down the line should we cross paths.

>>130185632
He wanted to do it. He's the kind of faggot that does nothing but talk about killing himself even though he fucked up trying to do it a couple of times.

>>130184689
Yeah, you'd have to watch me do it and not report it to be in the same boat she is. Just telling or giving advice on how someone can kill them self is not a crime.

>>130182505
ACLU already on this, because it was just a white man who khs.
If you read anything about the case the verdict is obvious.

>>130185927
Given that fivehead her livelihood was going to be retail anyways.

>>130185289
If you're a shitty human being, don't go out and project it on the world

>>130186160
I'm not sure if you mean me or the bf

>>130184689
they put oxygen in helium tanks now because of you faggots

>>130185289
>She isn't responsible for his actions and in no way liable for not getting help to him because that's not her job
But is was. Court found she created a duty of care over him by being a bossy bitch (who orderd him into danger.) Because she dominated him, she was obliged to act to save him, like you would towards your own child. She didn't.

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She's so fucking hot.

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When she cries my penis moves.

#SaveMichele

>>130186455
agree
but know lesbian butch white meat

>>130186278
You're a moron as well, who would have thought

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>>130180747

Tides will turn only if Men want them to.

Archives:

http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

>>130185497
Unless my admittedly limited understanding I managed to maintain from crim law is faulty, failure to render aid is merely a theory to prove omission to satisfy the acteus reas, while manslaughter is the crime itself.

>>130180747
It may seem sad, but i think encouraging betas to kill themselves leads to a better society in the end. It should be considered honorable to kill oneself to avoid a dishonered or meaningless life.

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>>130180747
She is literally pic related

>>130186455
She's literally balding, what the fuck are you on

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>>130186614
Yep, they'll have her stretched out so wide that by the time she gets out it'll be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway.

>>130185055
Omission is valid actus reus for manslaughter IF you have a duty of care towards the person. Usually that means your own children. But it can mean an incapictated person you take in from the street (and therefore become the only person who can help them by taking them away from others,) or in this case because you are a bossy bitch who dominates people and orders them into danger.

>>130182505
She didn't just say kys you dumb faggot. She encouraged him to actually kill himself over a period of time.

I swear some of you are stupid as fuck when you make ridiculous connections like this.

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>>130186710
She just has a slightly tall forehead.

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>>130186710
probably from the realization she might be doing 10-15 upstate

>>130186651
Don't know why I keep putting that extra "e" in there.

>>130186652
Ok then kill yourself

>>130186870
I thought this was a shop. That thing is enormous.

>>130186046
I know man, they can't just charge me for shit if i tell you to kill yourself, i know that i have to be involved and be aware of you committing suicide at the time.

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>>130184386

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>>130186450
Being bossy doesn't make you responsible for shit other people do. You need an actual authoritative position. >>130186626
Better watch that online bullying. Could get you in trouble one day

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>>130180747
What a fucking waste of life. SAD

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>>130186455
It was at the moment she knew she fucked up.

4Chan constantly whining about Wyminz and Fuminism. then they see a "Hot" woman on Trial for influencing an obviously mentaly disturbed guy, and immediately side with the woman.
That is why everyone thinks White men are pathetic cucks and this thread proves it
hard to swallow that your fellow men are weak

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>>130187037
It does look like a Somali forehead.

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>>130186125
>fivehead
It's another African doesn't know what a skull shaped for a prefrontal cortex look like episode

>>130186930
BTFO

>>130187077
KEK

I'm on the floor right now.

>>130187078
She was found guilty. Sorry whiteknight.

>>130183172
she wasn't charged with harassment

>>130186627
Fuck off LARPer, you were found out when you lied about the UN invading the UK months ago.

>>130180747
It makes sense that shes guilty its like a guy robbing a bank and another person is the lookout, the lookout should be charged. But if you just tell someone to go rob a bank and nothing else then its not a crime.

>>130187158
Now that's a forehead you can trust. There is no conniving or scheming going on behind that.

Eyebrows

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>>130186870

>>130187078
Yes it does, read the judges verdict:
>"This court has found that Carter's actions and failure to act where it was her self-created duty to Roy since she put him in that toxic environment constituted reckless conduct," the judge said. "The court finds that the conduct caused the death of Mr. Roy."

>>130184857
>>130185041
She hasn't been given a sentence yet. Read the fucking article

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>>130182953
I wouldn't count on it

>>130186827
And like its pointed out here
>>130187078
Mass. has no laws against encouraging suicide

So you can't use that as reasoning behind the ruling.
She wasn't even present when he did it. Merely texting during the event.
Do it faggot was basically what she said.
The kid has multiple suicide attempts on record before this so he was going to try again with out without her "encouragement"

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>>130180747
Here's the text message conversation: https://archive.fo/ZqCUZ

>>130187773
>https://archive.fo/ZqCUZ

Nothing of value was lost

>>130187294
I know, but it's a pastiche of harrassment. It was the closest analog I could think of.

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>>130187091
prison waifu tier

she's just smoking hot

>>130180747
It's absurd that this mentally weak guy was talked into suicide by this bitch.. but at the same time she sounds like an evil whore so maybe justice was served.

If only he had gotten some new pussy and not worried about his ex .. things would have been different.

>>130188094
Her face looks like a car crash but ok

>>130180747
The guy deserved to die... Everyone that commits suicide without being terminally ill is a fking moron and deserves to die anyway. She did good thing helping him in the good deed of ridding the world of himself!

>>130188094
Looks like an insufferable cunt get some standards dude

>>130182505
No...

Now if you told someone here to kill themselves, and then they gave you their personal information so you could contact them, and give them instructions on how to kill themselves, listened to them try killing themselves, and then told them to keep going after they changed their mind, and continued to encourage them all the way through until they actually DID kill themselves..? Yeah, then you might be fucked

>>130183485
Leave it to the nigger to always find a way to parasite from society and gratify his base sexual urges (because you are animals)....

Why are you niggers so dumb?

>>130186827
This

>>130184915
i want to stick my tongue in her boipucci
inb4 >her

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>>130188197
you have no taste

>>130188282
this girl has a very attractive face with striking features, plus there's this zombie-like vapidity that just gives me wood

>>130188094
She's just gonna tell you to kill yourself faggot.

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What's happened to 4chan?

How many of you have told someone on here to kill themselves? How many of you have encouraged and even participated in threads where people will live stream their suicide?

Honestly, don't lie to yourself.

But now that it's a female who manipulates someone into offing themselve, it's evil?

Quite hypocritical.

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>>130188469

>>130184386
I would really like to sex her face

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>>130188459
>you have no taste
k bud

>>130180747
They look like twins, I hope she didnt make fun of his appearance cause bitch looks like female version of him

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>>130187077
kek'd n checked

Why does it fucking matter anyway?
Who cares if some dumb idiot killed himself because his girl encouraged him to...
The guy was dumb anbd I don't give a fuck he is dead.

>>130186930
I'm already considering it...
https://youtu.be/P3hi3jk5oaw

>>130188482
She personally knew the guy and he trusted her. She put more effort into his death than sending anonymous messages.

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>>130180747
A small step to bettering relationships in USA. This will be a lesson for future women who try to play with men, but should be many more convictions like that.

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>>130188670
Absolutely disgusting.

why didn't he just like turn his phone off lol

Fucking faggots, I swear.

>>130188670
>posts picture of ugly ginger devil
>thinks he has taste in women...

>>130184703
He killed him and he caused him to die

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cmon guys

she is just too good looking for one of us not to take the prison waifu pill for the team

>>130184689
how accurate is this? is it really painful?
asking for a friend..

>>130189518
i meant painless

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>>130188976
t. Homosexual

>>130189229
How is cow Olga this time of year, filthy gypsy?

>>130187288
Just because youre the kind of guy that would do whatever a semi cute girl tells you to do (even kill yourself) doesn't mean you're not responsible for your own actions.
I'm sure you see yourself in the pathetic guy that killed himself successfully after a few previous attempts and takes no responsibility for your own actions but even her telling him to get back in the truck only makes her guilty if believe she created his suicidal tendencies in the first place.
He set everything up. He went out to a deserted kmart parking lot. He hounded her endlessly because he's a pathetic bitch that got obsessed with some chick online. Then he got back in the truck.
So an 18 year old adult kills himself after several attempts and his 17 year gf who was nowhere near the scene gets a manslaughter charge. Likely so the judge can pressure lawmakers to make new anti bullying text laws instead of applying current law to the case.
And you're pathetic enough to be like yeah fuck women and say I'm a white knight.
Go kys faggot.

>>130188267
That is what they think of their selves anyways. That is why they do it.

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>>130189482
her forehead is as big as the whole face

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>>130189873
it's hot as fuck

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>>130180747

ROASTIES BTFO

>>130183485
Why not combine jail and bbc? Also kys nigger

>>130187932
And that reads as either get help or try it and fail like before so you can be forced to get help.
Either that or HE convinced HER that it was right. She's a 17 year old girl. He's 18.

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>>130186870
>>130187091
>>130186870

>tfw too intelligent to kill myself

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>>130190154
he's just mad

>>130188267
>Everyone that commits suicide without being terminally ill is a fking moron and deserves to die anyway

Yeah, implying not everyone can fall into clinical depressions

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Can you feel it, woman, closing in all around you? The Light's justice has been awakened. The sins of the past have finally caught up to you. You will be called to account for all the atrocities you've committed, the unspeakable horrors you've let loose upon this world, and the dark, ancient powers you've enslaved. Though my soul was one of the first to be devoured by your forehead, there are thousands more bound within this skull, and they cry out for release. Look now to your defenses, woman, for the champions of the penitentiary gather at your gates!

>>130180747
She should appeal. I'm 100% against blame for suicide being apportioned to anyone other than the person who did it.

There's nothing that could convince me that she's guilty of his death. It was a moral crime.

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>>130190312

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>>130189117
This. He wanted to die.

>>130186455
Looks like a tranny, no thanks.

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>>130189912
>eyebrows

>>130190411
except she quite literally watched him die and did not inform authorities or his family of what was going on.

When my friend killed himself he literally did the same thing that kid did and said "im gonna do it" and everyones reaction was to contact police and try to get a hold of him to talk him out of it.

She did neither infact what she did was tell him how to kill himself and pressured him even further to do it. Then afterward she pretended like she didnt know anything happened. So she is legally responsible.

>>130183172
You just described sentences targeted towards a person. Still words. You have agency and the male was not mentally ill. Not an argument.

>>130184689
>warning

>>130189117
Because he wanted to think he was being romantic or artsy and talk to his love one last time while going out.
Cept for all his fucking research he never realized that carbon monoxide poisoning leaves you a coughy chokey tears snot and everything else pouring out of your face dead mess to clean up.

>>130183028
If you're going to be an idiot please use a different flag.

>>130182505
Kys

>>130190811
She didn't "quite literally watch" anything. In fact she quite literally was miles and miles away and he called/texted in the middle of his attempt.
>>130187932
That's the texts leading up to it. He does all the work and research cause he's one of those guys that look up ways to kill yourself that might not work so you can get all the attention and love from people around you that you feel like you deserve but aren't getting for some reason.

>>130190899
>and the male was not mentally ill

I would argue that he was considering what he did

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>>130186870
You guys only likeher because her eyes are blue.
If they were brown you say she a shit.

>>130190522
Cyber bullying is different than a loved one telling you to kill yourself. She still shouldn't go to jail though

>>130183028
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words
This already exists to some extent.

>>130191618
And encouraging suicide isn't illegal in Mass. So she really shouldn't be going to jail.

>>130191478
Ok so if your mother texts you "goodbye im going to kill myself" are you just gonna ignore the text and not try to call your family or get a hold of police?

Yeah i fucking thought so dipshit

>>130186278
kys shill

>>130191524
In what way? Definitons and prove he is.

>>130191808
And if i didn't and she did so what? I'm not responsible. I don't have a duty to act in an emergency. Nobody has to help.
If i see a car crash and don't help but take pictures and video and they die am I responsible?

>>130191808
>implying shes some type of crisis manager
She didnt knkw what to do, she panicked.

>>130191911
If i do i won't hold you responsible.

>>130192029
This. She had no special training to deal with people in his situation.

>>130192082
she panicked by telling him to kill himself yes

>>130192150
>had no special training
Stop making up shit since when does it take special training to call up someones parents or dial 911

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She's real sorry guys.

>>130192186
You dont have the emotional intelligence to judge a person in her situation.

>/pol/ falls in love with a psychopath
Not surprised anymore.

>>130192301
You too dont have the emotional intelligence to understand what she was going through.
This is why fucking white males are ruining the world

>>130182953
She didn't contact police because it's her right to remain silent.

The law is incredibly inconsistent. Societies like the US don't make sense. Then again they don't have laws like hate speech.

>>130191564
Bitch looks straight out of Code Lyoko, what the fuck.

>>130180747
>guy had second thoughts and got out of his car as it filled with gas
>she told him to get back in

Bitch deserves prison.

>>130192411
>emotional intelligence

Listen here you dumb eurocuck she spent the entire fucking time telling this guy to kill himself and doing the research for him on how to kill himself.

so yeah she lacked the emotional intelligence to just not text him back instead she kept texting him telling him to kill himself

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>>130192510
don't hate her because she's hot

>>130192510
Are you a psychatrist? Are you certified to diagnose her as such?
Shes not a psychicpath. People are innocent until proven guilty in the country.
Youre just as bad as Trump with his bully tactics.

>>130192604
lol canadia right to remain silent is when you are being arrested by police

>>130192827
>t.cuck who didn't read her phone messages

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>>130192301
You're mixing common sense with training.
Her bf most likely said don't tell anyone.

The suicide prevention hotline is filled with skilled and trained workers that have taken classes and been certified just to understand how to talk to somebody even thinking about killing themselves.

>>130180747
10/10 would fuck

>>130187773
reminder that this is the most focused advice an attractive young woman has ever given a man

>>130192764
>researched for him how to kill himself
Maybe in that way she was his angel. Maybe this is what he wanted all along so as the kind spirit she is, she made it easier for him

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I thought women got off easy on this kind of stuff and it was only men that were sent to the slammer.

>>130192827
yeah she is not a "psychic"path because she didnt expect for him to actually kill himself but she is still fucking guilty of egging him on and not pulling in a third party

>>130193017
No its obvious now that the dumb eurocuck is just trolling so im just gonna flat out ignore his id

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>>130192381
Looking stone faced in court is admitting guilt.

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>>130193258
i'm not saying she isn't guilty

i'm just saying her vapid face is hot as fuck

>>130193241
>she is still fucking guilty of egging him on and not pulling in a third party
With your logic, porn stars are guilty of rape by egging men on to ejaculate.
You lose this discussion

>>130192760
Second thoughts.... on his like 4th suicide attempt. He just fucked it up again and was choking and coughing.

I am curious based on previous texts if she just didn't think he'd try and fail then finally get help.

>>130191255
EDGE

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>>130180747
Whats the score? 1/2 so far?

>>130193464
That's irrelevant. What's your point?

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>>130187077

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>>130193241
He might be trolling but I'm not. This chick straight up did nothing legally wrong and the judge shocked everyone by making his a moral decision instead of a legal one.

As bad a judge as this one.

>>130182953
Yet he was the final person to decide whether he lives or die. His choice. You "indirecr harm" faggots can fuck off.

>>130192001
Wanting to kill yourself, unless due to like a terminal illness or significant negative life event, is by definition symptomatic of mental illness. He was clearly depressed in a big way. Mental illness. Boom, leaf bitch.

>She was on taking powerful anti-depressent medication before telling him to khs
>Apparently she was delusional while on it
>Continued texting his phone for weeks after he died
Was she still responsible, /pol/? Im not sure it was her fault at this point.

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>>130192604
>it's her right to remain silent
That doesn't absolve her of her duty to act in this case. If a terrorist comes up to me says they're going to blow up a bunch of people, shows me the bomb and I say nothing then I would be partially liable. People forget that being part of a society involves rights and DUTIES. She failed to fulfill hers.

>>130193923
>>130193850
he killed himself thats why its involuntary but he notified her and she opted to egg him on and make sure the deed was done instead of calling his family or 911

>>130188094
She's ugly as fuck

I can't imagine how ugly you must be to be attracted to that

>>130193850
I don't think it is legal to listen to someone die and not call emergency services of any kind.

>>130192029
No, because you didn't put them in that situation, numbnuts

>>130192827
She was found guilty though you fuckwit

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Why's she so perfect lads?

>>130194117
A lack of action should never be a crime. That is statist altruism.

>>130193786
Uh hang on my points are getting mixed around... oh yeah the point is that even if she did say get back in she was miles away and wasn't responsible for whether or not he got back in. His choice. He was safe and clear and if the judge makes the argument that he chose to get out of the truck then how can you not make the same argument for his choosing to get back in?

>>130183580
Get in a car, park it in a garage, turn the car on and kill yourself, you absolute faggot.

Looks like a minimum of 9 years?
Nice, she'll be almost 30 when she gets out, with a criminal record.

She just went from a rich northeastern white girl and all the dating prospects that offers, to no sex cept with black lesbians for 9 years, then having to settle for a nigger or white trash/beta white man when she gets out.

Fucking glorious.

>>130193152
Let's hope this is the first of many cases where women don't get off the hook just for being a women

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>>130194170

>>130180747
Has she been convicted?

>>130193923
you could look at it from a different angle

she shouldn't be legally responsible for him deciding to kill himself (only he can make that decision), but once he's actually doing it she's responsible for not trying to save him when she was the only person who knew that his life was at risk

people should be legally liable if they know someone is dying (and that they're the only person who know that person is dying) and do nothing to help them. otherwise what kind of fucking society do we live in - one that doesnt deserve to survive

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>>130182114

AAY LMAO

>Roy aspired to be a tugboat captain

That's.... prestigious

>>130194218
"lack of action" while she stays on the phone with him as he is killing himself instead of calling 911

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>>130194560
h-how could you let them do this /pol/?

>>130194116
She had zero duty to act in this situation which is why legal experts are kinda shocked at the judges ruling here.

Straight up civilians (a 17 year old minor in this case) aren't ems or fire department or cops or military. They don't have to help if they see or hear an emergency.

>>130194169
Because people like you exist.

>>130193357
quit trying to meme her into hotness

shes like a 5/10

no chin, big forehead, head reverse-pear shaped like she was born with a birth defect.

she has no redeeming qualities other than being white

>>130194218
Completely false. A failure to act can absolutely be a crime, even for an ancap. What if I failed to hit the breaks and run someone over?

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>>130194635
>mfw

>>130191808
The fuck does that have to do with anything?

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>>130194784
she's supermodel tier and your hurting her feelings

>>130190811
What if somebody said "give all of your money or I will kill myself", are you responsible for that person's suicide because you didn't give them all of your money?

>>130194635
Literally the dreams of a suicidal loser.

>all these bellends incapable of appreciating the context/nuance of the situation

Law isn't for everyone.

>>130194979
the only reason this even made it to court is because she painted a horrible picture for herself with her shitty actions

>>130194701
>She had zero duty to act in this situation which is why legal experts are kinda shocked at the judges ruling here.

Derp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_of_care

>>130180747
His death is all his own fault. She shouldn't be charged with anything.

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>>130184386

>>130194965
No? That's actually on them as threatening or coercion by use of force.

>>130194979
Fuck (((your))) nuance. The law is the law and it's not to be perverted by your activist judge. Go gas yourself right now, faggit.

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>you should kill yourself

Good.

But, she will probably appeal, case could possibly get overturned.

I think she's being charged as a minor? So at any rate she'll get a light sentence. And her record could be wiped clean when she hits a certain age (usually how these things work).

She'll get out get a job somewhere and live a happy life with an easily manipulated beta male.

>>130183818
The guy was clearly mentally unstable.
No sane person would willingly kill themselves even if sent the same messages.
The chick's crazy too, but that shouldn't be a crime.

>>130195184
>threatening or coercion by use of force

Against themselves?

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>>130195262

>muh free speech

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_of_care

>>130195116
This link proved nothing. This isn't Reddit. Those tricks don't work here. Show me the "duty of care" statute in American law?

>>130194170
Shes prob a 10/10 by British standards....

>>130195425
See>>130195462
Moron

>>130195116
I really don't know why you linked that in response to me. Do you even understand it? None of that applies in the case of an untrained 17 year old girl in any circumstance at all let alone the case were talking about.

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>>130194690
>be me
>open this image
>mfw i had to scroll up to see the rest of her forehead...

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>>130195594
you're going to make her cry again

she's hotter when she cries

>>130194962
She is so, unbelievably average, dude.

>>130192604
That's not how the 5th amendment works, leaf.

>>130195393
Yes. It still counts.

its like her face got pushed down to the lower half of her head. good riddance - pussy pass denied.

>Be Michelle Carter
>Meet a guy that seems fairly normal, hit it off
>Seems to have depressive tendencies but love fixes everything, right?
>Apparently not, worthless beta bf constantly talks about suicide
>Everyday, instead of enjoying conversations about your day, you have to listen to this worthless shit bitch and moan
>Does nothing to better himself, no plans for the future, just constant pessimism
>Eventually the constant talk of death makes you so depressed you yourself need antidepressants, becayse you seek help (unlike your worthless cuck bf)
>Desparate to get away, urge the faggot to kill himself so you can be free
>The day comes, you hear him say his last words
>That light of hope at the end of the tunnel appears
>You're free

Fuck that guy, I wish he killed himself sooner. Being with someone that manipulative and retarded made her so depressed she didn't even give a fuck anymore and begged him to kill himself. Worthless excuse for existence.

>>130194116
>>130194117
>>130194138
>>130194552
>>130194640
>>130194787
Has everyone signed any contract where they agree to be coerced by the state to act? I haven't. Fuck off altruists.

>>130196029
>wahh why cant my ancap dreams be true wahh

>>130195510

>Show me the "duty of care" statute in American law?

Not all law is statutory. Do your homework.

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>>130195790
she's striking, just needs a cuddle

>>130196023
Don't forget they only saw each other 4 times in a year despite living an hour away.

>>130196272
She has nice eyes I guess.

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>>130195701
>mfw i actually placed an order for those on Wednesday.
Gonna be good to keep an eye on all the action

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>>130194170
Looks like a man

>>130196143
>Gets btfo
>no you guys just gotta look it up

Burden of proof is on you since you brought it up and we all naturally shit all over it and explained that it doesn't in any way relate to a 17 year old minor on the phone.

>>130196623
17 isnt a fucking minor

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>>130196357
>nice eyes
You just like them because theyre blue you racist. Look at her now that they're brown

>>130194170
>giant forehead
>thinning hair
>eyebrows and hair 2 colors
>tiny face to head size
>looks like cross dressing loki
who is this perfect to?

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Can't you anons tell that she's sorry? It's time to move on.

>>130194962
>she's supermodel tier
yeah i saw a model with downs syndrome so i guess your right.

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>>130196745
She was tried as a minor because in Massachusetts 18 is the legal age.

>>130196126
I dont have to have "my ancap dream". Im just not fond of coercion for the sake of feelings.

>>130180747
wow it's really gonna be a doubleplus ungood future from now on, eh? corporate management must be filled wih glee. culture of fear ahoy!

>>130197032
some states including mine still can push a 16-17 year old to be tried as an adult depending on the case

>>130196313
Even worse, he was spamming the roastie

>>130196623
>>Burden of proof is on you
>provides proof

I've proven it already. Go stick your head back in the ground. She had a duty to direct him toward help rather than tell him to kill himself. Yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is not protected speech. Fuck you.

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She's sorry ok?

>>130197249
doesnt that state have a specific call to action law aswell?

"but officer how can i break a law if i didnt know it existed"

>>130196029
Don't live in a society with other people then.

You are literally typing your moaning on a computer labored on the shoulders of multiple generations of people in a society.

If you feel no obligation to participate, then go build a shed in the desert you looney fuck.

>>130195593
Her conduct, taken with his particular susceptibility and her knowledge of the same, and their trusted relationship, established a duty. This was the courts logic, and every attorney I've talked to today is unsurprised by the verdict.

If you believe otherwise, I welcome any authority upon which you base your position.

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>>130196272

>>130197394

Ignorantia juris non excusat

>>130197249
>she had a duty
Is this a duty she evee agreed to uphold? If not, then is it penal duty? Of neither, then it is a moral duty and youve outed yourself as an actual SJW.
>Yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is not protected speech
If the theater is privately owned and one of their rules is not to yell "fire" then sure. But what does that have to do with her lack of action? Shes being convicted of the opposite, which is NOT yelling "fire", so to speak.

>>130180747
A dumb as fuck whitegurrl who listens to rap music and stares at twitter on a smartphone. Unique personality. she felt naughty and got off on convincing some poor beta white sod to legitimately kill himself while she sexted her non-white interests.

She'll be given a light sentence and none of this will come back to her in 10 years at all.

>>130197249
Your proof isnt applicable in this case. I know all about duty to act laws because i was an emt. It doesn't apply to a 17 year old untrained minor who doesn't have to help.
Let's make this easy.
What part of that specifically did you think applies to her?

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>>130188459

is this Emma Watson's yankee cousin?

>>130195262
>the law is the law
Yes, common law.

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>>130189518
I have no idea mang.

>>130186870

>>130193357 Tranny Frankie Muniz

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>>130188459

God damn that bitch is dead inside.

Stupid liberal Judge

>>130197434
And again there was nothing in Massachusetts law saying encouraging suicide is illegal. You've put a 17 year old minor in charge of her 18 year old adult bf's actions.

>>130197776
See
>>130197434

>>130195720
Her hair looks fucking disgusting. How does a woman have split-ends that bad?

>>130197707
>it is a moral duty

This moral duty includes a legal duty.

>But what does that have to do with her lack of action?

She didn't merely lack action, she suggested bad action. If you know that suggesting a direction to someone that you know will lead them to their doom and you do it, you are responsible for that.

>>130197776
>>I know all about duty to act laws because i was an emt.

>>emt

>not a lawyer

She did a lot more than just fail to act.

>>130197425
>You are literally typing your moaning on a computer labored on the shoulders of multiple generations of people in a society
And I purchased said computer from voluntary merchants. Where is the argument here? There is no contract when we are born that we sign to assure that we uphold our righteous duties. I pay taxes (unwillingly) for residing on the state's property which encompasses the entire country. I can fully operate within a governed society, but those who wish to use force through the state are the ones who cannot function in a governed society. They undermine the little good that the government provides by making it a police state that enforces ideologies and convicts "micro-aggressors".

>>130195133
>T. Faggot

>>130193923
>>130194218

Too bad you fucking faggot cuck bitch. You're responsible and if you don't like it we'll fucking kill you, because you're worthless to us anyways. Get with the program, faggot.

>>130197776
>What part of that specifically did you think applies to her?

She was intimately involved in his life and knew more than anyone the details of his situation. She had a responsibility to inform the proper authorities of the situation and suggest he get help. Instead, she goaded him into suicide. She deserves everything she gets and probably more than what she will get because she is a "pretty" white girl.

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Whats going on? What's this about?
I googled Michelle Carter and I kept getting pic related..

>>130198255
That sure doesn't sound like a legal argument.

>>130198687
Kek
>>130198307
>If you know that suggesting a direction to someone that you know will lead them to their doom and you do it, you are responsible for that
How do I KNOW for sure that the individual in question will not make their own decision? Free will is chaotic. If you say that it is obvious and should be expected of everyone to know therefore they must act, then you are forcing duty upon people that may not have the same observations as you. How is THAT not criminal itself?

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>>130198752
>>130198514
>>130198307
The judge said yeah he set it all up but the only thing i have is that after he made his decision to get out of the truck you said get back in so he isn't responsible for making that decision somehow.

He's not even arguing that she should have called the cops.

Literally a you should feel bad because this guy was able to make all his own decisions regarding killing himself except for this one time when he wasn't for some reason.

>>130182505
I agree.
The govt loves looking for excuses to limit our rights and freedoms.
>Using exceptions to remove our human rights

The same thing is going to happen with the LGBT crowd.

Haha what the fuck I wasn't expecting you dumb faggots to be white knighting this bitch lmao

>>130198752
>because she is a "pretty" white girl

Reality Winner spotted.

>>130198808
Michele. You put too many ls'

>>130199538
Ah!

>>130180747
I am uncomfortable with verdict. She texted him, there were some words that could be construed as encouraging but it could also be that she thought he was being melodramatic. Either way I am not comfortable will person A being blamed for person B's actions.

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would you anons let her go if she agreed to be a slave to your benis for life?

>>130198514
As an EMT i know that regular people have zero legal responsibility to offer aid unless they are trained and certified to provide the specific aid.
We've already gone over how suicide prevention is a trained skill that you have to be certified in.

And none of this applies to minors unless it's job related (lifeguards are a good example. Babysitters are not unless through a legit service.)

The judge said she was responsible for that one moment where he got back in the truck because she told him to. And because he was an emotionally needy bitch she "accepted responsibility" despite her underage status vs him being a legal adult.

>>130199108
>tells you he's suicidal

Presumption of susceptibility