PAGAN thread

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>you can't be moral if you're not a monotheist

>>130167949
can muddy meds like me be pagan?

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>>130168168
Of course, do you know anything about the specific gods from your region?

>>130168168
>Who is Zeus

>>130167949
Pagan/Christian for the answer is fine, I picked Pagan myself, but whoever picked Atheist is most likely a cuck

>>130168878
Atheism is quintessentially European. Religions mostly come from outside Europe.

>>130169006
>Religions mostly come from outside Europe.
so Neanderthals and Cromagnons were originally atheist, good to know

>>130167949
Black anon here. Can I be pagan too?

>>130168878
>>130169006

Atheism has a long history in Europe and most European countries are heavily atheist.

But anyway, Europe's spirit is Pagan.

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>>130167949

>Not worshipping spurdopepe

sad

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>>130170099

happy kwanzaa! now go fetch the witch doctor to sacrifice an albino.

>>130170211
There is no spirit in Atheism, which is why it's a cuck answer. A respectable Atheist who understands the importance of religion will pick one of the other two answers.

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>>130167949

wheres muslim?

>>130167949
Can anyone point me to some arguments for why polytheism makes more sense than monotheism?

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>>130167949

>another pagan larp thread

can you even tell us any of the pagan doctrines without googling?

genuinely curious, where do you go to worship? pretty sure the only refugee is in Iceland for this dead religion.

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>>130167949
>getting cucked out of your own poll
PaganLARPers are the most pathetic posters on this board

>>130170918
That's not Pagan, Islam is a new religion, search for Ancient Egyptian Religion (pagan)

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>>130167949
die heathen

>>130171340
Same as a Muslim you are lol

>>130171340
now tell me what you're doing is not LARPing

>>130170511
B-but . . . muh dick . . .

Sobs.

>>130171294

on the strawpoll.

Islam is the true spirit of Europe.


>>130171340
this

heathens are to be burned at stakes, for the savages they are

>>130171491

you're larping as a pagan, you massive faggot

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>>130171199
>>130171340

>>130168168
Sol invictus and mithraism mate

>>130171841
could you be more specific?

>>130172323

>we wuz hebrews website

top kek

>>130172541
Bet you didn't even try to read any of it.

>>130172668

I did. I have even gotten into an argument with the creator, who refused to answer anything I said and just said "my message isn't for you anyway."

Anyway, only an American can think of something so retarded. I can disprove his claims by going out in my backyard and sticking a spade in the ground.

>>130172265

"look ad me im ebin pagan, lyk ancester, harr harr, i am sekret atheism but more gay"

>>130172816
>"my message isn't for you anyway"

Why, what are you, a Somali? What was your contention?

>>130173253

That archaeological, linguistics and genetics is all against the argument.

His grasp in linguistics is terrible, he seems to believe that if two words sound the same that means they just be from the same source, doesn't realize that some words entered both Hebrew and English from Greek, doesn't understand the concept of false friends, etc.

>>130172914
Nice strawman there jihadbro, anything else you want to add?

>>130173626
If you could point me towards some of the archaeological/genetic contrary evidence I'd appreciate it, I don't have a problem exploring a counterargument.

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>>130168243
Hahaha you larpers are so funny

>>130174509

>archaeology

Need to show a migration of people from the Levant that can be dated between 1000 bc and 200 bc, with grave goods suggesting Iron Age Hebrews, in Europe.

>genetics

Need to look at isotopes of bodies in Iron Age Europe that grew up in levant.

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>>130174269
>>130174381
>>130174462
>>130174715
Another Pagan thread where the christcucks are running scared. feelsgoodman

I guess they know their time is running out

>>130174971
>larpers
Is this really your only argument? It's getting rather boring and repetative desu.

>>130167949
Self sacrifice

>>130175056

>and prove that they originated from levant

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The glory of Mercury/Odin/Hermes/Veles will once again echo all over the continent

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>>130167949
>>130168126
>>130168243
>>130175174
Also, you're from Slovenia
Christianity has been in europe WAY BEFORE slavs arrived.
Stop implying you magically have more rights or a stronger claim.

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>>130167949
Holy shit
Stop LARPing and get a fucking job

>>130175953

>reading comprehension

>>130167949

>Jews put muh pagun ancestors show on tv

>It's super effective!

>>130175174
And what is your argument?
You keep using the umbrella term "pagan" to magically create a connection between tree worshiper literal snowniggers and greco-romans, when culturally, ethnically and theologically there is none!
Christianity has more in common with greco-roman paganism and hellenic philosophy than you larper faggots tree worshipers sheep fuckers.

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>>130176434
>abandon Christianity goyim

>>130171018
Anyone?

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>>130176438
>the christcucks fear the unified European pagans just as they feared the unifed European pagans 2000 years ago

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>>130176396
>Christianity arrived in europe in the 1st century
>Slavs arrived aprox 5th to 10th centuries
MUH READING COMPREHENSION

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>>130176527

Oy vey paganism is best ism!

>>130176610
>the christcucks fear the unified European pagans
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
WE WUZ UNIFIERS AND SHIEEEET

When was there ever a unified pagan europe?

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>>130176527
>Jew: WE MUST DESTROY CHRISTIANITY IN EUROPE
>Pagan larper: WE MUST DESTROY CHRISTIANITY IN EUROPE

Really maeks u think........................

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>>130176862
before your semites showed up

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>>130175056
Well, in regard to the archaeology, there's plenty of accounts from Greek and Roman historians and geographers who trace the appearance of the Scythian and Kymmerian tribes in the Caucasus region as an immense and mobile multitude-- they were noted to be pastoralists and nomads though, they never built major cities or settlements, but instead moved from land to land. All they would leave behind would be wood/straw hut structures. Their presence and displacement (by name) is also recorded on the Behistun Rock by Darius the Great of Persia.

As far as what you're asking from a genetic angle, you're assuming that levantine people all moved to Europe in the historical equivalent to the blink of an eye, who would show evidence of living in the levant in their remains. If you read the accounts, it's clear that this was a multi-generational slow immigration sweeping in from the Caucasus and Eastern Europe western to the Atlantic.

He covers this in serious depth in these historical essays. He remains more convincing to me, evidence-wise.

www.christogenea.org/essays

>>130176697

Slavs were in Eastern Europe already, African American intellectual.

>>130176231
Or burn down a church that they built by HIS tax money

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>>130176610
>unified European pagans
All major pagan movements are extremely bluepilled shit. They allow gays and "excommunicate" you if you are slight right from the center.

>>130171340
larping again pedro

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>>130177374
>All major pagan movements are extremely bluepilled shit
false
> They allow gays and "excommunicate" you if you are slight right from the center.
false

sounds like you're describing Christianity

>>130177189
(Also forgot to mention that there are historical accounts of these Scythians and Kymmerians as being tall, fearsome, and ruddy/fairhaired)

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>>130177374
>>130177695

>>130177189

Well, first, ancient sources aren't archaeology. Archaeology is the scientific recovery and interpretation of human remains.

Yes, the Greeks and romans do speak of Scythian movements but they also speak of the Scythian and Cimmerians as being pagans, not Hebrews, who they were familiar with.

The accounts aren't hard evidence and it needs to be proven that steppe peoples were the Hebrews. This can be proven with genetics. And while it is true migrarions don't have to happen in a blink of an eye, we have been able to trace genetically movements of people in Porto history, such as Anglo saxons into England or Vikings into the Orkney islands.

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>>130177695
>sounds like you're describing Christianity
Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

>>130177374
This is true, here's a fucking huge neopagan community that like talks with other beings by crystals, do yoga, have obscure eating diets and droll over the idea of multiculturalism.

>>130178322

To add, when have urbanized literate monotheists ever have become nomadic pastoral polytheist? Seems it would have to be the other way around.

Currently there's a wealth of Russian excavation going on in the steppe region of Scythian burial mounds. Perhaps you should learn Russian and read the reports and show us the Hebrew grave goods in the mounds?

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>>130175133
tree hugger Cuck

>>130178394
>old testament

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>>130178280
yes yes and now i post a bunch of christcuck pics of popes kissing nigs and american christians just being generally retarded

and then its your turn

lets skip ahead of this lets say 20 minutes.
thanks now stfu

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>>130178838
>I Came not to abolish the law
>romans 1

>>130170099
Yeah, look up Orishas and find yourself a voodoo lady.

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>>130174269
>>130174381
>katharsis and miasma memes again


ZEUS VULT

>>130178934
Well then go and cut off the end of your cock like a fucking Jew

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>>130178394
a semite quoting another semite

here is another scripture from your semitic book, and now lets take one from the latest version

>But Jesus replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”
lel
>jesus compares all gentiles to dogs but comon Christianity is fucking based and the true European religion

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>>130178860
>Christcuck
You guys are a living meme

>>130176862
Hitler unified most of mainland Europe. He was Pagan, though he pushed for positive Christianity which was a gateway to paganism.

>>130171841
ISIS flag?

>>130167949
Lo there do I see my father; Lo there do I see my mother and my sisters and my brothers; Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning. Lo, they do call me, they bid me take my place among them, in the halls of Valhalla, where the brave may live forever.

>>130179111
>t pagan cuck larper Soras voter

wew lad

>>130178322
The whole reason that Israel was allowed to be captured, removed from their home and and sent into exile by God is because they had fallen into a pagan existence and worshipped a pantheon. They were effectively pagan at that point except for some of the conservative priesthood. The Romans didn't understand that the Scythians and Kymmerians had appeared on the scene as having been taken as trophies of war all the way up from Israel by the Persians. And at the point that this happened, the Roman republic would not even begin until almost a century later. They were removed enough by history not to be able to connect the Scythians and Kymmerians to the levantine Hebrews who they would later be very famiar with

>>130174971
You're one of those "Foundation of Western Civilization" Christians who constantly points to Hellenic civilization and claims it for your own aren't you?

Uplifting Greco-Roman society in a desperate attempt to distract from the fact that you were the vermin Jew Worshippers who ruined it all.

>>130178750
Finck actually goes on at length in one of his essays on the Scythians etc. about the Russian findings and how they support his position

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>>130167949
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqSsTIlthPA

Pagans, you are traitors to your ancestry. Your ancestors fought and worked long and hard so that you could give glory to GOD, Christ, Son of God, the Holy Trinity, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! Yet you reject Him and embrace damnation for atheism and fairy-tales.

Return to Christ - do not find yourself locked from the gates of His Kingdom when you die.

Only through unity and the renewal of the Christian faith will Europe remain in anyway European. Work hard now to bring the Church back and the people into its fold!

>>130179330
>His flag has an Aryan symbol on it.

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>>130179111
kek

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>>130179599
Hellenic civilization got even better and touched perfection when we adopt Christianity

so btfo

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>>130179330
>Soras voter

Soras destroyed the reputation of the few Greek polytheists fuggg :(

>>130179599
>Christians who constantly points to Hellenic civilization and claims it for your own aren't you?
Are implying there's no hellenic heritage in Christianity?

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>>130179186
>christcuck getting triggered by being called out as a christcuck

>>130179929
Only what was borrowed from Paganism.

>>130180010
Degenerate

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>>130180150
don't worry you'll probably be dead once Christianity is just but a memory of the European man

but I salute the future of pagan Europe

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>>130180459
>implying pagan larper cucks will stand a chance

This will be your end.

The day of the rope will come for you too

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>>130180754
your Christian women will fetch a good price

>>130167949
THE SPIRIT OF EUROPENIS EUROBEAT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNveMjoSxp0

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>>130180459
>>130180754
These larper retards literally think that by making civilization collapse, they are saving europe.

>>130180930
Race traitors like you will make a great blood stain.

>>130181137
>>130181238
Christians are the greatest allies to the jews.

>>130180754
> Literal ISIS tier

Just go die in the desert already you filth

>>130181399
Race traitors are kike puppets. Kill yourself faggot. You're too stupid to reproduce.

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>>130181399
Stop this retarded meme. Screeching "jew" isn't an argument.

>>130178394
>>130178838
>>130178934
>>130179139
Friendly reminder that this interaction ends Christians calling Paganism gay

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Guys, I really want to believe in asatru, but what about this ironclad evidence that "strong pagans" were actually just agents of the jew???

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The new Europe will have no place for the christcucks who worked so hard to bring her down.

True men of the continent will once more live in accordance with his ancestors and nature.

>Dharma, is a multifaceted and all-inclusive term with many meanings which includes Divine Law, Law of Being, Way of Righteousness, Religion, Ethics, Duty, Responsibility, Virtue, Justice, Goodness and Truth.

>>130179186
>opens the borders because there is no such thing as race and we are all equal in Christ's eyes
>lets his daughters marry niggers because they're "good Christians" and that's what really matters
Anyone, pagan OR christian, who places religious thought above basic biology is a pawn to be ridiculed.

>>130181526
quit your interracial cuck fetishes, it only have power over you, not the European man.
>>130181588
>But Jesus replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

there is nothing worse than a dog trying to sit at its masters table, thinking it is his equal.

this is what you're doing

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>>130181710
LARP harder faggot. Your "religion" is completely irrelevant.

>>130181977
Says the fucking race traitor.
No one who actually gives a fuck about the future of white people tries to direct everyone's hate towards other whites.
You're a fucking agitator faggot. Kill yourself nigger.

>>130181978
>implying the whole world would be better off under the false guise of a "one true" religion
Sounds like kikery to me, faggot. This planet is full of different cultures, different peoples, different spirits. To think Christianity is the "end all" religion to "unite" everyone and mankind is a fool's dream. You christfaggots are so deluded.

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>>130181588
>screeching Jew isn't an argument
First day here, Mr Christberg?

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>>130181978
sorry there schlomo but it was the semitic religions that divided europe, europe was never divided on religion before christcucks came

only a semitic religion could kill millions upon millions of white europeans just because of some minor theological differences

but please don't be persuaded by me or any other pagan, our people would do much worse with someone like you in our ranks

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>>130180754
>The day of the rope will come for you too

Well, you are allowed to do anything you want to barbarians.
But don't come south. Purification by fire (ΠΥΡΙ ΚΑΘΑΙΡΕΙΝ) awaits you.

t. Georgios Gemistos Plethon


>>130181660
>Christians calling Paganism gay
male homosexuals (guilty of male homosexuality - αρρενομιξία) and other sexual deviants should be burned alive at the stake

t. Georgios Gemistos Plethon (again)
--------


Seriously now, European people have more important problems to solve. Credits to the Roman Catholic apologist who reminded me ("fuck ahmeds")

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>>130182204
I have as much allegiance to a christcuck as I have to this guy

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>>130181940
Explain to me then why the less christian a nation becomes, the more cucked it gets?

>>130182630
Of course. Because you're a nigger loving race traitor.
All white people are better than every shitskin.

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>>130182387
>it was the semitic religions that divided europe, europe was never divided on religion before christcucks came

When was there ever a unified pagan europe?

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What do you do if can't bring yourself to believe what any man-made parchment says and can only believe that Zionists, "god loving" Christians, and Pagans have all fucked over their own people for the sake of wealth and resources. To think there is anything besides basic human needs, an emotional need to make sense of the unknowable, and desire to kill while maintaining a moral high ground? 99% of you are card carrying retards. All manipulated for centuries by the same lies from different tongues. Oh and fuck Islam too.

>>130182497
>bigger problems
I agree, personally I wish Christians and Pagans would unite against Islam - they can fight afterwards but we hve bigger fish to fry. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, as long as they're white too.

boat niggers stole their religion like they stole their chainmail and helmets.

fucking ice kikes

>>130167949
You should all be fucking killed, disgusting infidels.

>>130182387
>WE WUZ UNITED N SHIT
Yet another revisionist meme. The only times Europe has been even close to being "united" was when Christian nations came together for the defence of their faith.

Face it, pagancuck, your nigger-tier religion is dead. It's beyond irrelevant. It's buried deep in the "other" category on religious surveys. Spamming a mongolian throatsinging subforum with your shit will never change that.

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>>130182900
It was never divided because of religion. Never did million of European men die because of religion.

>>130183140
See you on the battlefield, Abdul

>>130182736
Christianity has nothing to do with a nation's decline in the ways you think it does. It's the racemixing, multitude of foreign cultures and religion (like Christianity,) and the broken nuclear family that results in a nation's decline. That and greedy Jewish/Christian materialist faggot fucks who think they can consume the entire world over and get away with it.
>>130182985
Islam, another abrahamic religion, hellbent on destroying Christianity. More proof the Jews came up with christianity and Islam to divide and conquer.

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>>130183089

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>>130182736
Your proposition ONLY applies to Poland, one single country. Explain to me why most Christians will be nonwhites in the next 10 years or so? Explain to me why nearly every church, including the Catholic church, pushes a socially progressive message? Explain why antisemitic Christianity is essentially nonexistent? Explain why expansionist Christian Europeans (Spaniards and Portugese) racemixed? Explain why Christianity is totally against racism?

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>>130183409
>worshipping a kike on a stick

>>130183356
By Allah, I'll shove my sickle so up your ass not even the medics will know if I killed a pig or a cow.

>>130167949
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13205682
The spirit of Europe is NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM

>>130183318
>It was never divided because of religion
So you're implying it was united, when?
And don't dodge the question

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>>130183238
>t. christcuck larping as a crusader

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>>130183409
>christians do nothing but slaughter each other over the course of centuries based on how they interpret their Jewish religion
>w-we are united now though!
Yeah, you're finally united in your ultimate purpose- being the gullible foot soldiers of the proper Jews. You HAD the holy land in the 1900s, and you just gave it to the Jews? Why?

>>130167949
>calling yourself by the name Christians call you
>only have recorded history because Christians recorded it
At least call yourselves by your native names. Fuck this is dumb I hate nu-pol

>>130183643
>Implying you're allowed to touch a pig

>>130183799
kek christfags eternally btfo

>>130183819
>your people didn't need a specific name for your religion because it WAS your people
>Christians slaughter your people and force conversion, but hey at least a couple of them wrote down some aspects of your old religion
>"h-haha what do you mean you're not very fond of Christianity? By the way, open your borders."

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>>130183366
>More proof the Jews came up with christianity and Islam to divide and conquer.
I've been here for years, but even I think this level of lunacy is too much for /pol/

>>130184126
>didn't need a specific name for your religion because it WAS your people
Found the pagan larper who hasn't even done his homework.

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>>130182497
>Gays weren't' diseased goyim

I don't get what all this fighting is about. It seems rather obvious what's going on: the spiritual conservative wants to find a spiritual path to believe in.

Modern Christianity has spat in the faces of the European people. I will tell you now, /pol/ Christians, you are considered the smaller body compared the large one of liberal appealing Christianity. You are NOT Christian, or so they say. What you believe in is not Christian. These folk who love gays, minorities, Islam, and "their greatest ally" will do anything to silence and berate you on the world stage. They have actively denied you repsentation.

Paganism, or the remnants thereof, may not seem to be perfect. However, I don't blame conservative pagans for wanting to travel further back to something that can represent Europeans. Liberal hipsters have shitted up the place during the 20th and the beginning of the 21st century. However, with modern liberalism's fear of anything culturally European it will be easy to kick them off the boat if memed hard enough. The government and mainstream media don't really care about them since they are so small. So they won't come to their defense like liberal Christianity. Still, that's work YOU have to put in, pagans.

I am not a member of either side. Not a pagan or crusader "larper". I just feel that whoever is doing European religion/spiritualism "right" is a lesser issue. Neither of you will get anywhere when globalists, lefties, hippies, commies, etc. have their fangs sunk deep into you.

>>130176610
Whats the link for this?

>>130182985
>implying the Christcucks wouldn't open the doors for their fellow "people of the book"

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>>130184313
>no actual argument addressing what I said, just another accusation of LARPing
"Larping" doesn't mean shit in an argument where one side pretends they're vikings and the other side pretends they're crusaders.
>nothing cited to "debunk" what I said
>this kid probably googles "based" bible verses as well

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>>130184126
>open borders
if you haven't noticed Christianity repelled Islam from Europe. If we didn't conquer your weak asses, Islam would have. You should honestly be thanking us

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>>130177374
>>130178934
>>130180754
>pagan degenerate groups here and there
>the supreme authority of the catholic faith kissing migrant feet
which is worse?

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>>130183551
>including the Catholic church, pushes a socially progressive message
>anti faggot
>anti birth control
>pro family
>pro traditional gender rolls
>anti-degeneracy
How progressive.
>>130183799
>christians do nothing but slaughter each other over the course of centuries based on how they interpret their Jewish religion
Absolutely false. There were wars between Christians, sure, but there were countless wars between pagans. You people follow a might makes right ideology then pretend to be a pacifist when discussing European wars from centuries ago. Christians conquered the fucking world. Nearly every great leader, every great scientist, every great philosopher and artists, since Constantine's time has been Christian. You literally can't dispute this.

>>130184583
I said "I wish", not that I think it's possible.

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>>130184619
Latin Massacre

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>>130184126
>your people
When? Which village? What tribe?
ALL of your known ancestors have been/were Christians. But you're going against their beliefs because some murderer rapist loser on youtube told you to start praising trees and larp all day.
If you were a woman you'd be fucking niggers all day. That's how weak minded you are.

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>>130184724
Get to know history faggot before making another post

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>>130184724
Jesus washed people's feet, if the Lord is humbe enough to do it, why can't a man. Oh wait it's because your edgy Internet politics tell you it's embarrassing because might is right

>>130184632
>Christianity repelled Islam from Europe
wut
That's not true at all, the Muslims kicked the shit out of the Christian nations up until the 1500-1600s, usually with the help of western Christians who saw the Eastern Christians as heretics and were more than happy to see rivals get BTFO

The only real success story was the reconquestia which happened against an isolated and weak muslim kindgdom and it still took hundreds of years and constant backstabbing from other christian nations

>>130184619
>pretends they're crusaders.
No pretending to it. If you're christian, in the military, and go out to kill muslims you ARE an actual modern day crusader because you are defending the faith.
Today's pagans are larpers because they don't know their ancestors' true beliefs and they aren't even following their ancestors' traditions.
It's not comparable.
I'm a Christian because I follow the traditions and beliefs of my ancestors. We haven't been pagan for a long time and the old ways are dead forever.

>>130167949
What's the purpose of having a poll on a pagan thread? the number of pagans will be inflated. Have a poll on and unbiased thread. Anyways, pagans are losing to christians, even in a pagan thread. Regardless, anyone who puts ideology over blood is not a real racist. Pagans atheists and christians will have to form and alliance. Fuck the jew varg vikernes.

>>130184619
>venice
Don't even bring those kike faggots up. Idk why the true church would ask them of all people for help. Hopefully it's lesson learned.

>>130185270
Ages of fucking pogroms and they want to call us kikes...

>>130185270

>Jews are so fucking bad guys! I hate Jews so bad!
>*Church goes on to gives Jews all authority of banking so they can lend kings gold at 20% interest to pay taxes to the papacy*

Jesus says to forgive debts and not to lend at interest... Well then let's hand that shit over to the kikes! The papacy has to be paid! What could possibly go wrong?

>>130184986
>complaining about "internet" politics or its influences
>On a board about politics on the internet
If you want to talk about religion in a vacuum, then there are plenty of religious forums on the internet.

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>>130184810
>this same tired argument
Eventually I will have to make my own image to debunk this, I'm tired of just looking up everything. Each statement in that is innacurate, ranging from "most pagans were converted peacefully" to "it was justified to slaughter the saxons... for some reason that we don't mention at all." None of your given sources even support those claims, or justify the never-before-seen murderous actions of Christians.

>>130184765
Absolutely false. There were wars between Christians, sure, but there were countless wars between pagans.
Boring reply. The occasional wars fought between pagans were never fought over religion. Furthermore, Christianity is a universalist religion- why are there so many wars and dividing schisms? To say pagan Europe was just as bad as Christian Europe is being historically and spiritually dishonest.
>Christian conquered the fucking world
And look where it has brought them! What amazing conquering you did, now that your Christian sensibilities and guilt have caused you to surrender it all!
>since Constantine's time
That's because all the nations were invaded and subjugated into Christianity you silly little thing! Funny how you neglect to mention the whole FALL of the ROMAN EMPIRE that occurred around Constantine's time...
>>130184865
>when which village what tribe
I don't know, Christians murdered them all and erased them from history. Guess that means I should worship their magical dead Jew, huh?
>all your known ancestors were Christian
So? My ancestors also fought in WWII against the Nazis, does that mean I should fight for Israel? Also, pic related.
>If you were a woman you'd be fucking niggers all day.
Hahahaha, all are equal in Christ's eyes my friend. If a Christian woman wants to fuck niggers all day, it's okay as long as they're Christians as well. Your universalist religion almost encourages it.

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>>130185105
hahahahaHAHAHAHA
>go out to kill Muslims
But never Jews, right? Not the nonChristians actually occupying the "Holy Land," right? Just Muslims? Zionist stooge.
>old ways are dead forever
Is that why you celebrate Christmas in September, and NOT during Yuletide?

>>130167949
Where is Judaism-Luciferian as an option?

>>130167949
pagans btfo

MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON THY SOULS. REPENT, ERE JUDGEMENT COMETH.

>>130185063
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Ottoman_War_(1672%E2%80%9376)
also they repealed the Huns from sacking Rome as well as many other countries like Malta beating the ever loving shit out of Islam. It may not have been perfect but no other faith has repelled Islam as well as christians. Islam is designed to conquer pagans

>>130186045

... You mean Christianity?

If Europeans are Pagans,

Americans are Gnostics.

>>130186139
hahaha i like you anon

>>130186133

Why isn't Christianity repelling Muslims now? Even Buddhism is doing a better job than Christians.

Christians and Atheists are actively destroying all Western nations.

>>130185929
Rootless nigger. You don't have a point.

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>>130185737
Many of the Jews settled in those parts have been brought to the font of baptism more by force than by preaching. Now, I consider the intention in such cases to be worthy of praise, and allow that it proceeds from the love of our Lord. But I fear lest this same intention, unless adequate enforcement from Holy Scripture accompany it, should either have no profitable result, or even (which God forbid) the loss of the souls which we wish to save should further ensue. For, when any one is brought to the font of baptism, not by the sweetness of preaching, but by compulsion, he returns to his former superstition, and dies the worse from having been born again. Let, therefore, your Fraternity stir up such men by frequent preaching, to the end that through the sweetness of their teacher they may desire the more to change their old life. For so our purpose is rightly accomplished, and the mind of the convert returns not again to his former vomit. Wherefore discourse must be addressed to them, such as may burn up the thorns of error in them, and illuminate what is dark in them by preaching, so that your Fraternity may through your frequent admonition receive a reward for them, and lead them, so far as God may grant it, to the regeneration of a new life.

- Pope Gregory

If we have to consult concerning military affairs, the opinion of a man experienced in warfare should be waited for, and his counsel be followed; when the question concerns religion, think upon God. No one is injured because God is set before him. He keeps his own opinion. You do not compel a man against his will to worship what he dislikes. Let the same liberty be given to you, O Emperor, and let every one bear it with patience, if he cannot extort from the Emperor what he would take it ill if the Emperor desired to extort from him. A shuffling spirit is displeasing to the heathen themselves, for everyone ought freely to defend and maintain the faith and purpose of his own mind.

- St Ambrose

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>>130183409
> Protestant

Protestantism suffers from the worst "semitic" way of thinking: love of money instead of love of knowledge, trickery and cunning instead of wisdom (Plato was right). They wont do shit if there aren't any shekels for them to speculate or, at least, to earn

Good religion: "our godhead is for us only -- state of souls of racial others is irrelevant"
Bad religion: "our godhead is f.or everybody"

>>130186304
Why aren't the pagans doing anything to stop the muslims?
Because you niggers are teaming up with shitskins.
In Europe's history pagans have never done anything to repel invaders. It's always been Christians who have kept kikes and mudshits from taking over. Now that Europe is an atheist hellhole the protectors are gone and you fucks are doomed.
I'm no longer sure if I care enough to fight for the white race anymore. You're a bunch of retarded infighting niggers. none of you are worth fighting for.

Wait, this thread looks like 50% Christian replies and 50% Pagan replies (and some neutral answers, of course).

Is Paganism really a thing? In my life I've only ever met two guys that said they were Pagan: Both were metalheads. I've lost contact with one friend, but still meet the other one. Both never went to "Pagan meetings" or practised Paganism.

Do we really have people here that think of Paganism as their true religion and... even practise it in a way?

I thought Pagans were just atheist metalheads that like to buy runes and drinking horns from some metal shops and then drink some mead from the horn while blasting some viking metal.

>>130186489

Care to clarify? From what I remember, it was Martin Luther that spoke against the money grubbing practices practiced by the Catholic church such as the purchasing of indulgences..

>>130186304
Short answer is protestant reformation and people learning a water downed version of Christianity because they're lazy. Jesus to modern people is a hippy revolutionary without a biblical understanding of love vs agape

>>130186736
Lol do you even have a job or are you a keyboard warrior

>>130186853
Catholics were selling indulgences because they were forced to be the government after the fall of the Roman Empire. It was basically a voluntary tax, immoral but I expect corruption in any man made institution that is the governing body

>>130187102
>man made institution
What the gender (curse word now) other kind of institution is there?

>>130172668
>Literally we wuz hebrews

It literally is we wuz hebrews you filthy kike

>>130187335
Institutions are man made by their nature, and they're corrupt by nature as well

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>>130184378
That meme is digusting but not as gross as gay people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF4Ll15ENgA

>>130186736

>Europe's history pagans have never done anything to repel invaders.

What the fuck are you smoking? Europe's entire history is pagans repelling invaders. Whether it was the failed conquest of Germania, strong TRADITIONAL pagan women like Boudicca standing up against the invasion of Britannia, Rome stopping the invasion by Carthage, Greece stopping the invasion by Persia

By the time Muslims came onto the scene in Europe, Europe was already Christianized. There were no pagans left because if you admitted to being a pagan you would be killed.

It wasn't turning the other cheek that saved Europe, that's for sure. The philosophy of Christianity is antithetical to nationalism unless you are a kike.

Face it, Jesus saw two nations. The nation of God's chosen (the kikes) and "the nations" which they literally translated from the word Goyim.

Face it. Jesus existed to bring gentiles into the covenant of Abraham, to make his descendants more numerous than the stars and give them the riches of the land.

>>130187864
Your fuhrer would have kicked you from the ranks

>>130188040
>implying they weren't crypto-pagans paying lip service to christianity

>>130188040

and your mother would've aborted you if she didn't fear eternal hellfire

>>130186756
/pol/ is pretty fun because you see these 50/50 discussions come and go all the time. Usually it was libertarian vs national socialist, a lot of christian vs atheist, and now it's been this for a while

>>130187542
Yeah. My point was that if people like you had given a shot at actually reading it, you would realize how stupid and ironic it is for you to call me a kike.

>>130188345

DEUS VULT flags were added a day ago and now these otherwise hateful racists come out to defend Christianity, a religion that says that they are going to hell for holding these beliefs.

It would be funny if it weren't so fucking sad.

>remember the 12 disciples were refugees!

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>>130186756
There are a few handmaidens of Magna Mater from /lgbt/.

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*obligatory post about how paganism is right*
*obligatory ridiculously characterized pagan meme from a orthodox christian poster*
*obligatory post from pagan poster how christianity is jew on stick religion, cuck religion, etc.*

every thread. what does this really accomplish. what are our real differences? religion is ultimately astrotheology and paganism is nature gratitude in general. isn't it all the same shit? w/e.

>>130186129
I know it's a meme, but wouldn't it be more correct to say "Repent, ere judgement come"? With the subjunctive mood.

>>130188562
Jesus called the Canaanite (Jew) woman on the road a dog and said she'd never see heaven. He only came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel (white people). There are actually a lot of racial purity parables in the old and new testaments.

https://christogenea.org/essays/broken-cisterns-part-1

>>130188958
Paganism is pro-white, pro-European tribalist philosophy. Christianity is not. Christians pretend it is.

>>130189243

Jesus says himself that he is the seed of David, a man that murdered entire villages every man woman child and animal behind the back of a king whom he had made a treat with.

Jesus came FIRST for the Jew, THEN the gentile, got it? You come second because you are inferior at birth. The sooner you accept your inferiority to the Jew the sooner you can be a good Christian in the eyes of THE LORD.

>>130170099
no! fuck off.

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>>130188345
I've seen pictures like this from time to time, some years ago. But I thought it was just as a fun jab against Christians. Fast forward to now and we have a thread where people actually say they believe in it?

And most I see are simply arguments of who's supporting the evil endless Jew more: Christians or Pagans.

>>130172039
these kikes have to go. again.

>>130189953
Jew is a medieval scribe word for judean. 1st century Judea was a multi-ethnic region thanks to our friends the "jews" who were brought into positions of power by John Hyrcanus.

First to "Jew" then "gentile" means first to judean Israel and then to dispersed "lost" nations of israel-- Greece, Rome, Gaul

>>130190131

Christians believe in giants too. The first king of the Jews (before Jesus) killed a giant.

You know, that really masculine figure made for the Chosen people, not that meek version of the king designed for the goyim.

Friendly reminder that Judaism (IE Jews) didn't even exist until 400 years after Christ had died. The religion before Christianity was Yahwism by the tribe of Judea, who were not Jewish as the religion did not exist. Modern day (((translations))) intentionally replace writings of "Judea" and "Judean" with "Jew" in order to usurp the name of Jesus Christ and spite Him. Multiple writings in the Talmud even ridicule and insult Jesus out of their hatred of him, and the fact the true Messiah was not the warrior the Pharisees hoped he'd be further fueled their rancor. He even warned us of "False Judeans" in Revelations. The only """"evidence"""" that follows after that for Jesus supposedly being Jewish is a 3D render made by the conjecture of Israeli archaeologists, who totally would not have an agenda to further push this meme.

Anyone you see who repeats the "Jesus was a Jew" meme is either a Jew themselves or a useful idiot for the Jewish agenda.

>>130190483
Like that matters to these idiots. If they were smart they wouldn't be embracing meme versions of paganism. At least go straight occult if your going to damn yourself

>>130170918
>hides his own flag

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>>130190954
Hate the sin, not the sinner. They're idiots, yes, but they simply think they're on the right path to eliminating the Jew. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions and what-not. Common sense will come their way at one point or another, you simply need to remind them of the truth.

>>130190346

>Greece, Rome, Gaul

Ah I see. These other tribal identities are property of the chosen people too.

The ETERNAL covenant made between Abraham and God himself cannot be broken by Jesus. If you really believe that Jews have any inherent divinity or connection to God then you must also accept the integrity of their covenant which by it's very nature puts them above you in the ethno-religious hierarchy of the religion in the same way a Brahman would be above a hindu Peasant.

The religion is designed to put Jews above you, don't you see that? The prophesy regarding the second coming is him installing Israel as the global world power. Why hate the Jews if they are trying to accomplish this?

You can't be a Christian and an anti-semite, trust me I have tried

>>130174971
A friendly reminder that the roman empire rose and peaked without the need of Christianity.
And that alexander the great conquered anatolia, persia, egypt, all the way to west india and within a generation got most of those areas speaking greek and understanding the hellenic gods, and that knowledge would continue even after the western roman empire fell, up until the muzzies fucked everybody and got them all speaking arabic and praying to allah.

>>130179837
Rome withered utterly under Christianity, and Byzantium stagnated after a few more centuries.


If only one of the emperors had been able to restore Hellenism, then the empire would have likely pulled itself back up again, and we would probably be better off for it today. (inb4 muh religious wars furthered european tech race)

>>130167949
That's Lucifer in disguise.
See that symbol in the left side of picture.
On his shoulder. That's 666

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>>130190483
>Anyone you see who repeats the "Jesus was a Jew" meme is either a Jew themselves or a useful idiot for the Jewish agenda.
Pic related is your average pagan larper, we all know to which category they belong

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>>130191666
And the Spanish and British empire peaked without the need of (((Paganism))), what's your point?

>>130192108
>Byzantium stagnated after a few more centuries.
Do you mean 1200 years?
>If only one of the emperors had been able to restore Hellenism, then the empire would have likely pulled itself back up again, and we would probably be better off for it today.
Literally pic related right?

>>130192617

Jesus Christ is Lucifer..

Lucifer is only an evil figure in Judaism because he sought to "become like the most high" which is exactly what Jesus did... It was prophesied that people would look upon the one who was cut down to the ground (killed) and ask is this the one that weakened the nations (Jesus)

>>130191605
You're missing the point entirely. The "Jews" are not who you think they are. They were not ancient Israel. They are Edomites and Canaanites and Kennites who hijacked Israel's identity away from adamic man. They do not descend from Adam. If you follow their path in the OT, they descend from Cain. Cain was born of the serpent/fallen angel Nachash, the sin of Eve was not a thought crime, it was unwitting race-mixing. Genesis 4:1 is a demonstrably glossed/corrupted verse in the Hebrew, but even in its accepted for, Eve says that she has gotten a man from heaven-- but the word "man" is the Hebrew word form "ISH" (meaning male sex of any species) and not "ADAM", which is the human species created by Yahweh.

Anyway, most "jews" today are Khazar anyway, and have no connection to the levant except what they took from the Edomites/Canaanites/Kennites who took it from true Israel and turned it into a satanic religion: because they're genetically and spiritually of their father the devil and the sins of their father they will do

>>130193684

Contrast this with everyone gazing upon Jesus when he died..

Is THIS the king of the Jews, son of God? In the Talmud it says Jesus is burning in hell and the prophecy of Lucifer says that Lucifer would burn in hell too.

Why if you are a Christian do you cling onto Judaic hogwash as if it was your own religion?

>>130193904
>king of the Jews
King of the Judeans. The Jews literally did not exist until four centuries after the death and resurrection of Christ. Stop falling for the Pharisees who Jesus warned would disguise themselves as false Judeans in Revelations.

>>130190428
Mankind really needs some education when it comes to Theology, especially atheists and all those christian sects.

Why is it still possible that people talk about the shit in the bible like it really happened? Those are myths and legends, slowly formed over thousands of years. Those are stories to learn from, passed from generation to generation orally.

But then you have so many morons saying: "Oh, the way it is written in the bible is exactly how it happened!" And you have even more atheist morons thinking that the clergy believes that as well.

The clergy highly edited the bible over time and left lots of stuff out, as well.

20 years ago in my class for catholic religion the textbooks and my teacher already explained to me that Moses never fucking parted the Red Sea, but that it was a representation for something: They were helplessly at a dead-end, behind them an Egyptian army on chariots. But in the end they found a way out. That story is meant to give you hope.

Why else are there so many parallels between religions? Why else have so many ancient religions some sort of God of the Sun? That shit is no coincidence, it's in human nature.

It's the same with fairy tales: They had an ethical meaning, a lesson to be learnt. Snow white dying from a poisoned apple and later being revived by a prince? Same shit as Lazarus.

>>130194221

Jews existed since king David unified the tribes of Israel under the kingdom of Judah.

>>130187864

Yes, Pagan Europe was Pagans killing and raiding each other non-stop. This virtually came to an end when Christianity gained a foothold in Europe, and the idea of a "Just War" was developed. Until the renaissance, and furthermore the enlightenment eras, which abandoned many Christian precepts, wars of direct conquest were simply banned. Many pagan tribes were quite fragmented, and alienated from their neighbors, and if you had invaders like Islam come in, they would have been steamrolled.

Muslims entered Europe before it was entirely Christianized. Hispania was a mix of Christians and Pagans in fragmented tribal states when it was conquered by the first caliphate, as was North Africa - which at the time of the Islamic conquests was basically Europe. And, no, it was not an era where they were blindly killing pagans if they did not convert. Historically that's an oddity, and happened in some small regions at times - most notably when Charlemagne forcibly converted the Saxons. This was hardly the rule, or even sanctioned by the Catholic Church.

Nationalism is fine in Christianity, though they do warn against Empire and making Kings above God.

Jesus didn't see kikes as God's chosen. Quite frankly, he said he'd come back and kill them all at his second coming, where he would establish his Kingdom.

>>130195154
Quit being a useful idiot. That was the tribe of Judea under the religion of Yahwism, not Judaism. Judaism never existed until the Pharisees (a group reviled by Christ for their Satanic worship and nihilism) put together the Talmud 400 years after Christ's death and resurrection. They intentionally mistranslate and rename things in order to hide them from goyim. The most obvious one is the "Star of David" which has nothing to do with King David, it's the Symbol of Solomon, an symbol of Satanic imagery.

>>130193684

Yes, the name Lucifer was first applied to Jesus. In Latin, it just means morning star, and Jesus identified himself as the bright and morning star. If you could go back in time a thousand years, you would hear Catholics singing hymns to Lucifer. It was only recently (historically) that the name Lucifer became synonymous with Satan - which is more of a pop culture reference to Milton's work.

these are slide threads

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>>130193394
No doubt, you have little understanding of Byzantium. They started strong as they were free of the debt that plagued the west, and Constantinople was in an opportune trading location, leading the Empire to amass much power quickly, and even expand the eastern front against persia. By the time of muhammed however, they were starting to lag behind in military warfare, due to devolved military recruitment to the legions, and no major advancements in technology (partially to do with how the literacy rates plummeted with the institution of the church banning public schools for the plebs), after suffering a plague, and a war with persia, both were overrun by the 4 caliphs.
If Byzantium had not been stagnant, they would have been able to retake this land shortly after. They never did, and the very power struggle between the pope and patriarchs caused the Schism, that lead Byzantium to fall in 1206 AD to the fourth crusade. (the restored empire was not comparable to the former, and was a joke tbqh)

Stagnation is not death, it is a halt on progress, bot culturally, and militarily. The ottomans finally gained Constantinople because they had embraced guns in the form of cannons, which shredded the city walls. The advent of Christianity meant that science was relegated to satanic rituals, long gone were the days of greek scientists discovering steam powered devices. Only the Renaissance, Protestantism and the events after the thirty years war truly allowed Alchemy to become mainstream again, That is why the industrial revolution happened when it did.

The reason islam did so well, is that instead of branding science satanic, they relegated such tasks to the Dhimmis, whom happened to be ex-alchemists and philosophers of the Persian, and Byzantine empires.

>>130195458

You're trying to separate the religion from the state. They were the same thing.

The religion arose from them continuing to practice their law (Torah literally translates to law) in foreign lands because they feared further punishment by God.

That is why you have a tradition of rabbinical commentary (the talmud) trying to interpret these laws and how best to carry them out as not to upset God.

In reality, these rabbis are using the Torah (the law) of the Jews to create an international empire by which they can manipulate the followers of the religion to manipulate the nations they live in for the benefit of the Jewish people.

I am not saying Jews aren't bad people because I know that they are. I am saying that their ethnic nepotism is derived from commandments and eternal covenants made between these people and their god, the same god that Jesus claims to be the son of and the same god Christians claim to worship.

>>130183318
what is the meaning of wearing that?

>>130195971

The Islamic world basically did, and quite early, brand science as Satanic. They said the idea of cause and effect was a lie. Only Allah makes things happen, and anything said to any other effect was heresy and apostasy.

Meanwhile, in the Christian world, they were dutifully copying Greek philosophy and science, generation after generation, and actively supporting scientific efforts in biology, astronomy, and other fields.

Byzantines fell at the end, not because Ottomans developed the cannon (which they didn't). The Byzantines couldn't buy the cannons from their Christian neighbors because their state was entirely depleted from 800 years of conquest, raiding, and piracy from the Muslims at their borders. Instead, the Ottomans bought the cannons to destroy Constantinople from those very same Christians.

The whole Christianity = backwards thing is a fucking kike myth.

>>130196736

It's Thor's hammer. It grants you protection from negative elements within Midgard (Earth) in the same way a cross protects a Christian from evil.

Thor is the protector of humanity.

>>130196624
>their god, the same god that Jesus claims to be the son of and the same god Christians claim to worship.
Yet again, you are falling for the classic Jewish scheme of mistranslation and renaming. They do not worship Yahweh, they are in every sense of the word Satan worshipers, ranging from literally worshiping a devil to simply being worshipers of opposition in a sense of complete nihilism.

They absolutely hate Yahweh and they hate Jesus as He is His son and the embodiment of Him. That is why they've pushed so hard to make even saying His name sinful in nature, to try and eliminate even the thought of someone of a greater power who intends to destroy them. Actually try and read Jesus' teachings on the Pharisees, read through the Bible and imagine if every written instant of "Jew" is "Judean." If you can't do that yourself, you are actively being manipulated by the Jew in such a blatantly simple way that you're even insulting the flag you wear.

>>130192929
>2000 years of european christiendom.
Nice bait, you need not 'worship' pagan gods, only understand what they represent, and even pay homage in your own way IF you feel like it, and not mandatory sunday church, like what people were actually executed for not going to two weeks in a row.

>>130195971
The Renaissance was partially caused by Byzantine scholars taking their shit and fleeing to the west away from the Ottomans, dipshit. Technology wasn't heretical, and there were plenty of advances in technology during the middle ages, it's just that most of them were relatively boring to the average modern person, because they're about things like farming and building.

>>130167949

Oh shit the Marvel Comic faggots are at it again!

>>130197113
This was because of the dark ages idiot, Buzantium still had the remenant knowledge of the Roman empire, and so the people who studied these texts (upperclassman) had knowledge that was lost to the west due to the dark ages.

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this is what i believe given the evidence presented to me in this trend 1. paganism appeals to the extreme degenerate in our society because they have a false idea of paganism.
2. There is a problem with modern day Christianity where we have sjw like shit going on in the church virtue signaling by adopting nigger from africa and being cucks to Israel.

these are some of the problems we have in the spiritual sector of our movement the best we can do is clean our own spiritual home after all this is done we could debate all we want but for now we should unite to fight our common enemy that seeks nothing else than to destroy us only in the battle field fighting this enemy pagans and Christians could see each other as brothers

>>130196891
Do you know of the Dhimmi class? they were persecuted, but there was a mutual understanding between the nobles, and the Dhimmi that gave them protection.

>Actively supporting scientific efforts.
http://www.annclinlabsci.org/content/37/3/295.full

The Ottomans EMBRACED the cannon, when the Byzantines refused to have anything to do with gunpowder weapons during the middle ages. The Knight Hospitalliers pirated Byzantium also, because they followed a different interpretation of Christianity, the same sort of division that lead to 40% of Germany's population being killed in the thirty years war.

Christianity was little different from Islam until the Counter-reformation, The renaisance, and the end of the thirty years war. It was backwards as hell, and catholicism today is much different than it was because of the major changes the pope made, to try to keep his parish intact. Protestantism is a much better interpretation however, and this can be seen in how the power shifted in Europe over the last few centuries to those countries.

>>130197574

And yet, Christian monastic orders preserved whatever works they could. They were studying Cicero and Socrates in 900AD Western Europe as well, you know. You speak of the dark ages as if it were some rebellion against knowledge, when in point of fact it was just the result of a massively corrupt and overextended socialist state imploding.

>>130198444

Eh, show me evidence of Byzantines "refusing" to use cannons. They were just way too fucking poor at the time they were developed to actually afford them. When Mehmed rolled into town, finally, the Byzantine Empire was a rump state of like 3 depopulated towns, and couldn't do diddly to defend themselves. Most historians point the finger of their economic decline at the 4th crusade, when the Venetians basically conquered the city and drained the empire coffers dry, from which they could never recover.

>>130198475
They copied those texts because they had nothing better to do, and they felt it was a noble cause to preserve history, the west was not able to preserve much of the romans vast collection of works however, and that is why we know of homer, because those Byzantine refugee's carried the only copies the west would have to print from.
https://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/webexhibits/homerinprint/humanists.html

>>130199075
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Q3A_CwAAQBAJ&pg=PT366&lpg=PT366&dq=byzantium+refuse+to+use+gunpowder&source=bl&ots=ayShPMdUSg&sig=tXX3Wj93Baa569Y3ylLitzGOWv8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwit7sabmcPUAhUDL1AKHen3ADwQ6AEIPjAE#v=onepage&q=byzantium%20refuse%20to%20use%20gunpowder&f=false

>>130199075
>>130199386
Specifically that page at the bottom.

>>130199386
>https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Q3A_CwAAQBAJ&pg=PT366&lpg=PT366&dq=byzantium+refuse+to+use+gunpowder&source=bl&ots=ayShPMdUSg&sig=tXX3Wj93Baa569Y3ylLitzGOWv8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwit7sabmcPUAhUDL1AKHen3ADwQ6AEIPjAE#v=onepage&q=byzantium%20refuse%20to%20use%20gunpowder&f=false

You mean where it says that the Byzantines couldn't use it for economic reasons, which is what I said?

>>130199609
No, that they didn't meet the price, despite bosnia, serbia etc. had all embraced it.
It should be obvious that byzantium could have invested if they really tried to, but the money was diverted elsewhere.

>>130199999
Lame

>>130200084
stfu pleb, i just got quints.

>>130184986
This is why I'll never be a Christian. I can't imagine the mental gymnastics you have to go through.

>W-well Jesus would wash a niggers feet!

I truly pity you..

>>130197954
You are completely right.
This threads are made by the divide and conquer JIDF anyways.

>>130192617
Oh yes, good goy, every symbol of your ancestors is SATANIC. OY VEY.

>>130199999

At that time, the Bosnians, Serbs, etc. could afford it because they had a significant population over Byzantium. Constantinople had around 20k people left by that time, and their entire "empire" had around 40k. They had almost no income through taxation or trade, and simply couldn't afford them. The empire went through serious decline after their sack by the Venetians.

>>130170099
no. you can be muslim.

>>130197954
This. We are brothers in the end, and the jews want us all gone

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>>130167949
I like Stephen E. Flowers who argues that Germanic Paganism mixes well with Zoroastrianism. He is involved in studying Germanic runes, but he also had a fondness for Zoroastrianism, having written books about it.

I think even if you guys go back to paganism, then you should still consider mixing Roman Mithraism or Zoroastrianism into it.

Rostam from the Shahnameh

BEYOND TIER
Greco-Roman paganism
Buddhism
Judaism
Celtic polytheism
Zoroastrianism

Baby pill tier
Germanic paganism

Bottom tier
Slavic paganism
Romanian paganism

>>130200528
I am aware of this, however, they could have diverted resources to pay for the adoption, if they had been so inclined. The truth is, that Byzantium had become too backwards to recover, reminiscing about the old Roman times and unable to advance culturally because of this. Venice, Genoa and the crusaders only exacerbated the underlying problem.

>>130186756
The problem is the lack of any alternative to fill the vacuum left by communist stick-kike worship.

The fact that so many are ready to leave Christianity for paganism (which at this point is admittedly simply pro-European idolatry) is a testament to how false and unnatural Christianity is to Europeans. It had to be forced upon the European population, and then brutally enforced up until the present day culminating in religious wars which make WWII and the Bubonic plague look like a bowl of honeynut cheerios.

The point I'm making is, we are so desperate for a new religion, with proper stucture, which allows us to worship a God(s) for us and for our people. Christians actually expect us all to worship a crucified Jew, the Jewish people, and their Jewish desert God because they watched Ridley Scott's 2004 film "Kingdom of Heaven" and OMFG BASED CRUSADERS DOOS VALOOT!

We need actual thinkers to begin formulating a new, unabashadly European religion, with actual structure.

>>130193811
t. christian identity retard

I know exactly who the jews are, because I grew up next to them. I have known Iranian jews, Slavic jews, Spanish jews, Arabic jews, and Ashkenazi kikes.

They're all the same. Their character and spirit doesn't change from one group to another. Clearly, they're the diaspora of ancient Israel, seeing as they all read the same Torah and worship the same Saturn god. But go on and pretend that Aryans are the real inheritors of semitic fairy-tales.

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>>130172039
>Nazi LARPer
opinion disgarded

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>>130201637
>Turk

Opinion discarded.

>>130201637
>Greek, opinion discarded until denbts are paid

>>130171340
go back to israel

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pirates coming trough

>>130170099
Find out where you come from and find out the original religion of your people.

Hate to say it larp fags, but Christ built Europe and all modern society. We wouldn't have any of the technology or life-span increasing medicine we have now without His influence.

>>130167949
as an atheist i voted Christian

>>130167949
"Paganism" can't even be restored. If I walked down the street and said "Hail Jupiter" I'd get cringes in response.

>>130207739
But you already say "Bom dia" (according to google translate), and "Dia" derives from "Deus", just as (IU)-piter.

>>130167949
Respect your ancestors, both pagan and christian. That's all you need to overcome this shitty D&C meme.

>>130208557
This guy gets it

>>130208557
respect those who died while protecting the real tradition
don't respect those who just gave up their real tradition and accepted christianity.

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Ill just leave this here

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>>130208557
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tulkaa morotta
>>130207655
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ixpus-8X8

LET'S ALL LAUGH AT CHRIST KEKS

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