>by the man who told me to fire Comey except that Trump clearly

What are you gonna do when its proven it was Rosenstein's idea? Like when it was proven that he wasn't being investigated and Comey was the leaker? Will you enter in full damage control mode again?

>>130168005
>>when its proven it was Rosenstein's idea
did you not watch the Lester Holt interview? or do you just ignore Daddy's words when they don't help his case?

>>he wasn't being investigated and Comey was the leaker
except he is being investigated now for obstruction :^) really dug himself a nice grave by letting his ego get in the way

also everyone knew Comey was intentionally leaking from the start,it wasn't a coincidence that "an associate of Comey's" happened to have new scoops every few days. and nothing he leaked was illegal, it just showed how badly Trump understands the boundaries of the presidency.

>>130167856
>Trump clearly stated in his Lester Holt interview that it was his choice to fire Comey
He said told, not ordered. You can be told an advice or recommendation or opinion. He's the fucking president of the united states, of course he wasn't told an order.

>>130169728
>he is being investigated now for obstruction
THat's why we think it's hilarious
He's being investigated for obstructing an investigation that Comey himself said was not occurring
What investigation did he obstruct, precisely?

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>>130168005
Read Pic related
If Rosenstein doesnt remove Mueller's appointment, he too will be in violation of not upholding the law (in other words Trump will be forced to fire him)

The conflicts of interest for the prosecution (meaning Mueller) now that the reports of Wednesday say Obstruction of justice is being looked into, are too glaring. No one can even argue that Comey and Mueller have too close and shared a personal past for either one to objectively investigate the other

>>130168005
Rosenstein isn't Trump's boss. He didn't make Trump do anything.

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>>130170674
he asked Comey to "lift the cloud" of the Russia investigation, and said he "hoped you can let go" of the investigation into Flynn.

if Hillary had won and said anything similar you guys would be starting up the revolution, the mental gymnastics here are hilarious. you can try to fool yourself but you're not gonna fool me

>>130170674
The investigation into Flynn and the campaign's possible collusion with Russia.

You don't have to be the target of an investigation to obstruct justice.

Fact: The President has the authority to order the FBI to stop an investigation.

Fact: Comey testified Trump did not order him to stop the investigation.

Fact: Comey testified that it "would be a big deal" if he was ever told to stop an investigation for inappropriate reasons and that this had never happened.

Fact Trump did not order Comey to stop therefore no obstruction

Fact If tommorow Trump orders anyone in the FBI to stop an investigation it is still not obstruction as all Presidents have this power.

Based on facts and law there are no grounds for even an investigation of Donald.

The reality is criminal elements within the government want to illegally smash democracy by over turning the election...this is also known by the shorter term...coup d'etat

CTR/Shills you can't argue with facts.. ..

Fact: The President has the authority to order the FBI to stop an investigation.

Fact: Comey testified Trump did not order him to stop the investigation.

Fact: Comey testified that it "would be a big deal" if he was ever told to stop an investigation for inappropriate reasons and that this had never happened.

Fact Trump did not order Comey to stop therefore no obstruction

Fact If tommorow Trump orders anyone in the FBI to stop an investigation it is still not obstruction as all Presidents have this power.

Based on facts and law there are no grounds for even an investigation of Donald.

>>130171135
Funny how Comey (and other IC officials) have explicitly noted that they never received an order to halt the investigation
Are you guys still basing your entire argument on the single sentence "I hope you can let this go"

If so, i genuinely "hope you can let this go" when the 12th investigation into Trump yields nothing as well

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>>130171328
holy fuck larp harder you leaf xD

>Based on facts and law there are no grounds for even an investigation of Donald.
Yes, because the president has too much power, and for all the talk of checks and balances it's still important to have a president who respects his authority. Trump doesn't, and if it were anyone else in power his little cucked supporters would be horrified at the way he's acting.

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>>130171553
no, I just hope this special counsel "lifts the cloud" of Trump's presidency

>>130167856
It could still be his choice even if someone told him to. He's the president. he makes the final decision.

>>130171563
>>130171656
leftypol you're a bit too obvious

Trump should fire rosenstein and mueller and say if congress wants to look after their jobs rather than do them they can open an investigation .

>>130171563
>horrified at the way he's acting
Fuck off. Comey's unpopularity was about the only thing that had bipartisan support until he was fired
Then there was a nationwide, collective "WTF, I love Comey now"

It's all faux outrage designed to generate support for a slowplayed investigation over 1yr in the making with nothing of value to show for it
Genuinely, when will you people accept that Trump can be an idiot, but not have done anything illegal?

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>>130171758
not trying to be anything else, just here to shitshir and laugh at trumpcuck cognitive dissonance

I don't expect to convince anyone here that Donny is acting out of line, they'd literally let sit back and watch if Trump grabbed their wives by the pussy

>>130172008
go back to /r/politics you fucking autistic virgin

>>130171102
Yeah, he wanted Comey to publicly state Trump was not under investigation

>>130172008
>not trying to be anything else, just here to shitshir

thanks for admitting to breaking the rules

>>130171563

Hey nice how you sidestepped the facts....

Here they are again to assist you....
Fact: The President has the authority to order the FBI to stop an investigation.

Fact: Comey testified Trump did not order him to stop the investigation.

Fact: Comey testified that it "would be a big deal" if he was ever told to stop an investigation for inappropriate reasons and that this had never happened.

Fact Trump did not order Comey to stop therefore no obstruction

Fact If tommorow Trump orders anyone in the FBI to stop an investigation it is still not obstruction as all Presidents have this power.

Based on facts and law there are no grounds for even an investigation of Donald.

The reality is criminal elements within the government want to illegally smash democracy by over turning the election...this is also known by the shorter term...coup d'etat

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>>130171863
>Then there was a nationwide, collective "WTF, I love Comey now"
not really, everyone I knew in liberal land felt the same way "Comey handled things poorly, but it would be really dumb for Trump to fire Comey right during in the middle of this investigation". there really wasn't any hypocrisy

especially given the whole song and dance "oh it was 100% completely Rosenstein/Session's idea", oh no wait "I was gonna fire him no matter what, cuz of that Russia thing"

>Genuinely, when will you people accept that Trump can be an idiot, but not have done anything illegal?
when the investigation is over, assuming Trump allows it to finish

lmao libtards forget that they WANTED comey gone and begged obama to do it, but obaboon didnt have the stones, libtards are idiots with selective memories and an inferiority complex

>>130172591
this fag is right you know

>>130172343
>it would be really dumb for Trump to fire Comey right during in the middle of this investigation
Hence Trump asking about whether he was under investigation
Trump is thinking the same thing we are:
At what point is enough, enough? How many months and how many taxpayer dollars have to be spent before you admit that there's nothing illegal, much less impeachable about Trump's presidency?

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>>130172299
I literally don't care about you wannabe burger, you copy/paste LARPy political screeds, and you probably look really creepy irl

the only facts I care about here are how shifty Trump looks, and how quick his mental breakdown is occurring
>"oh I only fired because of Rosenstein"
>"oh nvm it's cuz Comey's a showboat!"
>"oh and that Russia thing!"
>"Comey better hope there are no tapes!"
>"oh nvm I'm not allowed to talk about the tapes"
>"WITCH HUNT FAKE NEWS MEDIA"

you keep ignoring my bullet points and I'll keep ignoring yours, later my friend I have real things to do today

>>130167856
Bla bla bla haha fucking loser.

>>130172343
>when the investigation is over, assuming Trump allows it to finish
Which investigation? They've tried multiple, from multiple different agencies

Let me make it simpler: if the obstruction probe yields nothing, will you finally accept that Trump's presidency is legitimate?

>>130172786
Shariablue making the rounds again, how many cuck points do you get from mommy soros today?

>>130168005
>it's not my fault, he told me to do it!

I stopped getting away with that when I was 7. He's the goddamn president, if he can't make his own decisions, we need to

>get him out of here!

>>130167856
Those things aren't mutually exclusive.

>>130172786
>how shifty Trump looks
This sounds just like when women call a man "creepy"
it's a vague accusation that can be strung together with confirmation bias

Granted, if you consume MSM (God help you) the confirmation bias step is already completed for you

>>130171546
Fuck off ShareRed, you literally pasted your pretyped argument twice.

>$.02 has been deposited into your account

>>130171102
You dumb piece of shit. Hilary would have proper justification for firing James Comey.
J.C. isn't a prosecutor, he leads investigations, and since he put himself in the role of prosecutor, any reasonable president would fire him.

>>130171563

>Obama
>Deporter In Chief
>Drone strikes any US enemy
>Ordered Osama Killed where Bill Hesitated
>Recovery after 08' crash
>Surging job numbers that Trump still rides
>Implemented Nation-Wide Romney Care
>|Continued| Bush Surveillance Programs

"GET THIS SUPER FASCIST LIBRUL FAGGOT OUT OF HERE, HANG HIM FOR TREASON!":- /pol/

>Trump
>Constantly talking up Universal Healthcare, Republican plan is "mean"
>DREAMers can stay
>Wall isn't being funded by Mexico
>Wall is a bollard against vehicles paid from the border fence funding
>Approved Democrat approved budget
>Can't fill federal government positions
>Can't get anything through Congress
>BTFO on Russian Sanctions
>Billionaire Bankers fill Cabinet
>Hands out Ethics Waivers like fucking snacks
>Sucking Putin's Dick
>Laughing stock of other nation leaders
>Actively Embroiled in scandal after scandal
>Actively profiting from Presidency
>Millions spent vacationing
>Golfing instead of working
>Wife cucks him openly, swatting his hand away like a fucking child

"YAAAAAAAAAAS, GOD EMPEROR OF TRUE GOVERNANCE! SLAAAAAAY!" :- /pol/


It's almost as if /pol/ is full of shit and is shilling for a NYC Elite Liberal con-man who switched sides because he knew how stupid and easily manipulated hard line conservatives are.

>>130171102

None of those phrases are legally obstruction. Good luck!

>>130171553
Here are 3 cases in which someone used the phrase "I hope" and were convicted of obstruction.

U.S. v. McDonald, 521 F.3d 975 https://casetext.com/case/us-v-mcdonald-29 screen shot of text

US v johnson https://casetext.com/case/us-v-johnson-1289

US v Chujoy http://www.leagle.com/decision/In%20FDCO%2020160915I98/U.S.%20v.%20CHUJOY

>>130172786
Yes you are right and its good you think the election was a sham....

Trump did conspire with the Russians...in fact I've heard anonymous sources say Trump flew in millions of Russians on election day who posed as Americans and voted for Trump...

Will they investigate who paid for the planes that flew the Russians in?

Will they investigate if Sessions paid Putin to hire the Russians.

Are there hotel receipts that expose just how many Russians Trump flew in?

Why is Trump hiding these answers?

Hey...fuck off CTR/Shill

Trump Rocks! MAGA!

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the president is an insolate cumrag, crying like a fucking hick that got ripped off at the county carnival

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>>130172875
>if the obstruction probe yields nothing, will you finally accept that Trump's presidency is legitimate?
I'll accept that he and his associates didn't directly collude with the Russians, if that's what you mean by legitimate. I don't actually think he personally did anyways, but Flynn, Carter, Page, and now Kushner all look pretty fucking guilty imo.

But his presidency will always be tainted by Putin's election interference and Comey's letter to congress (I know you guys hate that one but it's true), and frankly I think a lot of Trumps anger stems from insecurity cuz he knows it too.

In any case I will never respect that incompetent buffoon. He's made a mockery of the presidency, and of our nation.

>>130172656
>>130172591
>>>/out/

>>130171102
>Lynch meets with Clinton in a private jet
>Asks Comey to call it a "matter" rather than an investigation

Two concrete, 100% verifiable examples of Clinton demonstrating "obstruction" by the low bar you've set for Trump
Don't call us hypocrites when you're a bigger one

At least one thing we can all agree on....


Hillary is a monster and Trump Rocks!

MAGA!

>>130173565
Nice link to cases that in context don't apply here when you take the entire conversation into account. Did huffpo get you that? Cute

>>130167856
Are you people so retarded that you can't infer meaning from a simple sentence? Try reading it: recommended, instead you literal autistic.

>>130173759
And /pol/ went apeshit over that. As we should. You literally proved his point.

>>130172591
>>130172656
hello newfag

>>130173565
Good googloing, totally convinced me with that hot argument
I asked if that was your singular piece of evidence that Trump pressured Comey to end an investigation

Because Comey has stated never felt pressured to drop the investigation, nor was the investigation even dropped by the firing of Comey

All I'm saying is basing your entire argument on a single sentence makes for pretty flimsy ammunition

>>130172786

Dude, its like you do not realize your awful trolling is a red herring against what you're trying to shit on, its like if there was a retard screeching that peoples shouldn't look into his locked box and you genuinely expect peoples NOT to look into it.

You're just plain stupid mate

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>>130173161
>>how shifty Trump looks
>This sounds just like when women call a man "creepy"
this board is literally full of constant paranoia about (((shifty))) actors, funny how that's only a (((woman))) thing when done to Daddy

I'm out for realz now, gotta head to the office. Enjoy your day honey, try to get outside a bit for mommy will ya? It's a nice day

>>130173494
>someone, somewhere, actually typed all of this out
Holy fuck one can only HOPE you are being paid to do this, otherwise that's extremely concerning

On December 7, 2006 George W Bush began to purge what would ultimately sum to 93 US Attorneys.

Barack Obama inherited a DOJ lacking 10% of necessary judges and ultimately Congress blocked 147 appointments.

In March 2017, Trump fired another 43 attorneys.

On January 19, 2017 - President Barack Hussein Obama, a staunch opponent of incumbent president Donald J Trump, gave President Trump the White House gift of a lifetime. Candidate Trump railed against the "bad hombres" of Mexico. Obama found this racist.

Nevertheless, on January 19, 2017, Obama's DOJ executed on a 5 year extradition case against the notorious Mexican gangster (and prison escapee) Joaquín Archivaldo Guzmán Loera (colloquially known as "El Chapo").

President Obama also got a step ahead of El Chapo's next defense. Determinations were made to rapidly hand over discovery. Filings efficiently filed. The DOJ would not permit El Chapo any room to look for loopholes. No delays. They set about a path to expedite the trial date.

As the petitioner, they cannot withdraw this unless severe extenuating circumstances warrant it.
Trump has since fired nearly every attorney and specialist involved in the El Chapo extradition and prosecution.

El Chapo's trial is set to begin in April 2018.

Over/under on Trump losing this case?

Over/under on Trump fucking up and tweeting about the case, mid-trial?

>>130174062
And look what came of it?
Do you expect anything different?
Are you admitting that liberal argumentation has become /pol/-tier?

>>130174014
>reads three court cases with context in 5 minutes

Deep State AI confirmed? Or T_D scrambling to refute am argument that's way over its head?

>>130167856
He was told by the DAG that he SHOULD fire Comey. After some consideration and putting the whole Russia thing into consideration he fired Comey on his own choice. Now he is being investigated by the DAG for taking his advice.

Are you people too retarded to keep up with current events?

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>>130170143
>You can be told an advice or recommendation or opinion
Then he would have written "advised" or "recommended" if he meant that. "Told" has imperative implications.

Are you going to tell me that Drumpf has a limited vocabulary that gets him into needless trouble because he's legitimately dumb?

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>>130174178
I must be retarded, because I can't even figure out what you're trying to say.

If you were taking anything I said with less than two layers of irony, pls seek help.

>>130173565
Except you forgot one key thing....

All Presidents have the power to order the stop of an FBI investigation....its called the law....

Also as you know Comey testified Trump did not order the investigation stopped...

Also as you know Coney testified it would be a big deal if this happened...than Coney testified it never happened....

So while it is interesting you cite or legal cases it is irrelevant...

>>130167856
The fact that he keeps saying witch hunt makes me think he is actually afraid of the investigation and is already making excuses about why he'll be indicated.

>>130174223
Good bye and good riddance
We could've done without your autistic screeching there at the end, but this board will be better off without you

>>130167856
>I told Trump to fire the FBI director and he did it, the absolute madman!

>>130174274
>insinuating /pol/ is on one side of the isle
>insinuating conservatives aren't as corrupt as liberals

/pol/ tier is /godtier/. If an argument is sound, it will be applied to both sides and hold.

>>130174466
Just calling a spade a spade
Or do you genuinely believe "Trump Investigation VIII: The Obstruction of Justice" will yield anything substantial?

>>130174466
They've been investigating him for months under the pretenses that a third party found things on the DNC servers and the FBI was not allowed to see them, they just had to take their word for it.

What is this man afraid of? He wants this shit to stop so they can stop wasting resources on it.

>>130174606
>/pol/ arguments
>sound

Been here for a month? Two maybe?

>>130167856
This is the usual Trump shell game.
>look, look over here
>ignore that thing over there
>LOOK.AT THIS THING HERE
He's playing everyone for the umpteenth time. The media started pushing the obstruction narrative, since the Russian collusion narrative is dead, and the Democrats jumped on board because it's all they have. And Trump has done the public relations equivalent lighting his hair on fire and screaming at the top of his lungs. So, why? Rosenstein hand picked Muller because the guy has an impeccable reputation. Unlike Comey, Muller was never part of the Clinton machine. And the important thing to remember is that Muller said he would be investigating ALL irregularities surrounding the election campaign. Trump is basically acting like he has something to hide so the Democrats DON'T call for an end to the Special Prosecutor. As long as there's hope of Muller digging something up on Trump, they'll support him. Until Muller pops up with something to indict the Clintons or the DNC. Expect Trump to keep up this act for awhile, and expect the Democrats to keep saying "any day now" for just as long.

>>130174408
>"Told" has imperative implications
It doesn't. You can be told a joke. He's the fucking president of the united states. There is no imperative implication here.
>Drumpf has a limited vocabulary
It's a fucking tweet.

>>130174858
Give it time, kid. You'll eventually learn what's shitposting, what's irony, and what's truth.

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>>130169728
>DID SOMEBODY JUST SAY "SCOOPS"?

>>130175004
Ironic, given all the shitposting liberals do under the guise of truth

This is what it boils down to.

Criminal elements in the Government want to illegally overthrow the election of the President.

This is called a coup d'teta

If these traitors are successful and they overturn the election America falls.

Oh nooo drumpf got beteeffoed by the amazing liberal

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>>130167856

How can you try to destroy your own President, USA? If this was Obama the states would be screeching WACIST from coast to coast and around the liberal world. But because it's an easy target white man he's an easy target and every 'tolerant' liberal is ok with it. Does the USA even exist any more? For shame USA you have no pride, destroying your own President, show some respect to your nation. Shameless false flag FBI Russian fairy tale bug hunt.

> MAGA

>>130175102
>deflection

Not an argument

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>>130174466

>>130172983
I wonder if they still have to turn in their phones at the beginning of the shift?

>>130175154
>didn't even listen to the first two minutes of the Comey hearing

It's like you get all your news second hand.

>>130175758
Did you just make this?

>>130174408
>Are you going to tell me that Drumpf has a limited vocabulary that gets him into needless trouble because he's legitimately dumb?
Reminder that Ronald "I have no recollection" Reagan developed temporary dementia when needed.

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>>130173494
>Drone strikes any US enemy
Obama was the first U.S. president to openly order the execution of a U.S. citizen without charges being filed, a trial or conviction.

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>>130173494

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>>130173494
>Muh Russians

>>130175843
try to guess

>>130176588
Make your own thread, don't clog this one up with shitty, irrelevant posts.

>>130173752
Hillary was a terrible candidate the dnc leaks didnt change much Trump won cause he is real

Trump is not afraid. He is - rightly so- PISSED that it's month 7 and the swamp is still busy going to find anything to accuse him for impeachment worthy dealings.

Didn't you guys read the Guardian tutorial how a global network of journalists is just working to research on Trump to remove him?

Crazy against how many fronts Trump has to fight on.

>>130167856
OP, how does it feel to be a lobotimized establishment/Hollywood drone that can't think for yourself? You people are truly pathetic, and I will celebrate your suicide when nothing happens. Seriously faggot, kill yourself. Remember this post and kill yourself when nothing happens, braindead leftist loser.

>>130167856
It was our pleasure. Thank you for repeatedly failing to stop the man

>>130176190
>Obama was the first U.S. president to openly order the execution of a U.S. citizen

Many Confederate traitors were shot without a formal trail as well on the order of the US Executive, when are you going to fly that Al-Queda flag in addition to the Confederate one?

>>130176258
>The Bush 9/11 surveillance programs were started by Obama

Fuck.Right.Off. Fault Obama for not dismantling them (a thing that Trump has not done nor even made any desire to do so known) but trying to fault him for their existence is asinine.

>>130176588
The retaliation for said Chinese attacks is not only a known factor it was publicized in the news.

>>130174457
Officially ordering a stop compared to directly preassuring an underling to make an investigation go away. If you cant tell the difference between these two im concerned for your cognitive functions.

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>>130167856
>>130167856
Are you retarded?
>I have received the attached letters from the Attorney General and Deputy Attorney General of the United States recommending your dismissal as the Federal Bureau of Investigation. I have accepted their recommendation and you are hereby terminated, and removed from office effective immediately.

>>130174457
thank you monseigneur leafe

>>130168005
Another fake story with (((sources))) will come out

>>130167856

Sigh. Saying Rosenstein "told him to fire Comey" doesn't mean that Trump took orders from Rosenstein. It just means that that was Rosenstein's advice, and then Trump decided to fire Comey based on his own inclination mixed with some outside advice (not orders).

If we're at an ice cream stand and I say to you "I might get Caramel Surprise", and you tell me "Get the Caramel Surprise", which I then get -- that doesn't mean I'm taking orders from you.

>>130178337
>directly preassuring


all such persons have testified they were not pressured... Comey is quoted as having told someone he felt 'directed' but he testified he was not pressured

>>130179350
This guy gets it. Not to mention the fact that you only get so much space to type shit at twitter apparently.

>I am being investigated for firing the FBI Director by the man who advised me to fire the FBI Director. Witch H-

>>130176190
>>130176258
>>130176588

These are nice.

>>130171102

Present some evidence that Trump did anything wrong?

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>>130167856
so you guys stopped calling him drumpf?

>>130169728
Your full of bullshit

>>130167856
We got to meme a president into office and psychologically torture him. HAHAHAHAHA

>>130174062
except flynns investigation is already over, Trump had nothing to do with it ending either.

>>130176588 CHECKED

Seriously why the fuck are we not discussing this more? Every fucking federal employee had their info stolen. The chinese could steal the bank accounts or blackmail anyone from a lowly mailman to someone high up in the DoD. My father was one of the millions of people hacked, and I had to help him with cyber security and trying to do everything possible to protect his accounts and credit cards and such.

Yet fucking NOBODY talks about the shit the chinks pull. And of course there's Israel...

>>130172786
Weak argument bro

Now promptly kys faggot

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>>130170758
This.

It's just throwing shit to the wall to see what sticks. They want him gone because he is a threat to their corruption.

>>130172299
You keep insisting that the president has the power to do this and that, and it's true. You just keep forgetting that just because you have the power to do something, doesn't mean in all cases it is ok. Its called abuse of power, and its an impeachable offense. Its that reason why obama didn't just end hilldogs email investigation. Its the reason reagan didn't just end the iran contra investigation. All it takes is for the house to agree on it. So yes he could just say stop investigating, but he might as well just resign, because he would be impeached depending on who controls Congress. He wouldn't see Any jail time, but he wouldn't be president anymore.

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>>130173367
>Hilary would have proper justification for firing James Comey.
Like that would have mattered.

>>130176588
>>130181948
This absolutely should be discussed more, and it goes a lot deeper than hacking 22 million federal employee's information.

They have all the plans for the f-22 and f-35, THAAD, and a variety of our other top tech, all which was stolen from US servers. And they've been doing this for decades.

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>>130167856
>Liberal reading comprehension
The following statements are not mutually exclusive:
>Rosenstein recommended firing Comey and now he's investigating me
>I fired Comey for my own reasons

Just because Trump fired Comey for other reasons doesn't magically negate the fact that Rosenstein also recommended it for different reasons.

>>130173356
>ShareRed

I hope that youre not the best the goverment has spend millions on to help influence and correct people opinion.
I hope people with arts degrees aren't as useless as you

>>130172008

HOLY SHIT!

NOT GEORGE E. SCOTT!!

>>130167856
actually pretty smart. He got the kike to write a recommending Comey be fired. Muller says the firing is obstruction, the kike is his boss and must recuse himself. 4d chess

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The strategy of Democrats is perpetual investigations.

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