Libertarianism is just as bad as leftism.

>>130149252
Libertarianism would advance whites (who self-segregate at every opportunity) while leaving rent-seeking black and brown parasites out to die off without their government gibsmedats. Close the border and kill the leftists though

>>130149252
The fascist groups in Poland have left socialism behind, realizing it as a mistake, and have essentially embraced now What I would call National Linertarianism. Not our fault you've been left behind.

>>130149252
With Jews around yea. Confederacy is the most redpilled government.

>>130149252
it's worse
>>130149390
no it wouldn't. white birth rates are the only thing that will advance the whites. also

>libertarian
>close borders

pick only one. libertarian implies freedom to outsource, freedom to hire foreigners, freedom from state regulations

>>130149556
National Libertarianism***

>it's another "nationalism and libertarianism are incompatible" shitpost
no

>>130149721
I pick too, stop constructing straw men.

>>130149889
They are. Libertarianism = individualism + personal liberties in everything. You can't be a Libertarian and tell people what to do.

>>130149924
two*
God damn, phoneposting was a mistake.

>>130149390
you forgot one thing faggot: jews and globalists will do anything in their power to help the nigger horde

endresult in a libcuck world: the destruction of the white race and a ultimate victory for zionism

this is why libertarianism was invented by jews in the first place: controlled opposition

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>>130149721

>>130149924
You shouldn't use words that you don't understand the meaning of, Boris

>>130149986
Don't murder. Oh wow still a libertarian, even thogh I told you not to do something.

>>130149889
>it's another nigger who doesn't understand his own ideology
libertarianism is the opposite of strong nationalism mate always was and always will be. Not even Hoppe the closet fascist could change anything about that

start reading about your own ideology before posting with an ancap flag

>>130150127
You realize that libertarians unironically think there shouldn't be a police force?

>>130149252
Libertarians are merely ex-leftists that will slowly transition into full fash.

>>130150094
You said libertarians can't believe in closed borders, I'm a libertarian and I do. Stop constructing straw men.

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Libertarianism is as socially "progressive" as leftists even more but advocates for a free market. Most libertarians are autistic and cringy as fuck.
>>130149556
>National Libertarianism
So not libertarianism? Okay.

>>130150168
No, they don't.

>>130150244
Libertarians can't believe in closing the border. You may be against it, but as a libertarian you can't tell your neighbors to be against it too.

>>130150248
Could say the exact same thing about Nazbol, ysing your own logic.

>>130149390
What's stopping the rent seeking niggers to simply vote for more welfare. Lolbertarians are seriously some of the dumbest fuckers alive.

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>>130150168
Im a libertarian and I dont think that

>>130150290
Yes, they do. For fuck's sake research an ideology before you jump on their bandwagon.

>>130150379
Literally just google libertarian.

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>>130150290
fucking hell pjotr, start reading more

There is no police, no army, no government anything in a libcuck world. Only fallout like communities waiting to be attacked by the jewish financed nigger horde.

>>130150370
Then you're not a libertarian. You're just a centrist who doesn't want to identify with the left because muh sjws and with the right because muh Nazis. so you figured you'd latch onto something else without knowing what that actually entails.

>>130150450
Just talk to any libertarian party retard.

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>>130150358
I use Nazbol flag because it pisses off everyone who doesn't find it funny
I'm not actually a nazbol
Anyhow what you described sounds like an authoritarian state that promotes free market capitalism. Sort of what Pinochet did (which ironically is an ancap/lolbert meme)

>>130150379
Even ancaps want police, they just want it to be private. Once again, straw man.

>>130150369
read Hoppe idiot

>>130150370
>another closet fascist discovers he isn't an actual libcuck
I swear mate where did all you newfags come from?

Libertarians want
-private armies
-private security
-privately funded infrastructure

>>130150027
why do ancaps strawman natsoc and delude themselves into identifying with a military dictator?

>>130150541
No.

>>130150477
>>130150604
nah im a libertarian, it says so right there on my flag

>>130149252
>FFS
Libertarianism *IS* Leftism.
'Classical Liberals' are (yes) FUCKING LIBERALS.
Just because the 'I think individual liberty is more important than equality' Liberals and the 'I think equality is more important than individual liberty' Liberals hate each other does NOT mean they aren't both FUCKING LIBERALS!

>>130149252
all ideologies are bad. they leave you brain dead and predictable.

>>130150604
Pretty simple dude, take the good parts from nazism and cut out the bad parts and replace them with the tried and true free market. National paleo-libertarianism, if you want me to get overly specific about it.

>>130150591
>Hoppe
why yes let's read the man who has to resort to fascism to solve the weaknesses within the libcuck ideology

pathetic, just go full fascist with a support of capitalist markets and be done with your ideological balancing game

>>130150679
stop using ideology flags for trolling

>>130150591
>Hoppe
Yeah let me just track down the refutation.
Or how about you fucking do your own work faggot.

>>130149721
>white birth rates are the only thing that will advance the whites.
lol wrong

ending gibs will stop the artificially inflated birthrate of subhumans, bringing them back in line with reality.

>>130149252

Libertarianism is the opposite of leftism.

Libertarianism is evolution with natural selection.

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>>130150591
>"""""""Hoppean Libertarianism"""""""
Lmao even libertarians don't think he is one

>>130150638
Ancaps want*

>>130150757
(((Free market)))

>>130149986
>>130150155
you don't understand - it's not that i think libertarianism will fix the mess we're in.
you need a society of people who act in the interest of their family, community, and country for this ideology to work. you can't have a successful libertarian state without a strong sense of nationalism and patriotism in the populace.

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>>130150764
>stop using ideology flags for trolling
Do you think this is a motherfucking game?

>>130149390
First post best post.

Anarcho-capitalism is at worst evolutionary and first kills the unproductive, then the unlucky. I

Libertarianism is literally the current system minus social justice shit and Marxism and quotas, also the small things libertarian parties want like weed and guns.

>>130150803
see
>>130150688

>>130150688
Left/Right is a completely different axis on the political spectrum than authoritarianism/libertarianism.

Also, saying all libertarians hold the beliefs of anarcho-capitalism is absurd. There are tons of different ideologies that fall under right-libertarianism, let alone libertarianism as a whole. If the only way for you to defeat the arguments of a given ideology is to misrepresent it, then you lose.

It's because the libertarian movement got subverted by the Bernie supporters they let infest their movement to bolster their ranks now the Bernie Bros have taken it over

>>130150849
What you are describing isn't libertarianism. Just admit you are a nationalist who likes the free market.

>>130150757
uh dude I'm pretty sure the whole point of nazism is the bit about the free market failing long term and eventually consolidating power & wealth into a few small groups of people. Basically breaking up Walmarts is the core of it if I understand it right.

>>130150688
I don't believe anything other than the traditionalist lifestyle can flourish without government intervention, I believe businesses should be free to discriminate against niggers and lefties, it's well within their rights to decide who to hire and serve.

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>>130150203

Pretty much this, when I was a teenager I considered myself a libertarian because I was sick of all the leftist garbage and wanted some way to set myself apart from them and resist the faggotry. Now I'm a full blown fashy friend who sees that true Nationalism and Libertarianism are fundamentally incompatible with each other. Childhood is Libertarianism, adulthood is Fascism.

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>>130150757
>Pretty simple dude, take the good parts from nazism and cut out the bad parts and replace them with the tried and true free market. National paleo-libertarianism
why turn to jewish controlled ideologies when fascism already promotes a more capitalist version of NatSoc?

>>130150849
so you want free markets but a nationalist hivemind among the population => fascism (with a capitalist focus on the economy)

>>130150872
fight me niggerbeard

>>130150878
>Libertarianism is literally the current system minus social justice shit and Marxism and quotas, also the small things libertarian parties want like weed and guns.

We live in a corporatist state. The kind of corruption we're seeing is only possible because the government artificially picks winners and losers. Do you think Monsanto would own all the food people eat if they didn't fill the entire fucking government and judicial system with "allies"?

>>130150964
And through observation of history you find that monopolies disintegrate when not backed by the government. Giving the government power to break up companies just leads to the shithole crony capitalist modern America. If you want an example of what fascism would look like now, look at China.

>>130149721
>>libertarian
>>close borders
Are you implying property rights to extend to the nation?

>>130151053
Fascism is more left wing economically than Nazism.

>>130151172
how is the government supporting walmart? or amazon for example?

>>130150657
Because they're edgy teenagers.

>>130149252
So much worse

>>130151053
>nationalist hivemind among the population
no, i want citizens who are intelligent enough to know that nationalism will have the best outcome for our people

>>130150688
There is right wing libertarianism and there is left wing libertarianism. They're actually both complicated, but right wing makes significantly more sense than left wing.

Left wing libertarianism doesn't sound like it's in any way feasible in even a thousand years.

>>130150918
The full extent of right wing leanings applied to libertarianism is anarcho-capitalism, moderate right wing libertarianism is of course different.

It involves replacing each state function with a private institution of some sort, like how in medieval Japan they replaced their legal system with samurais and then poor people basically lived in anarchy. That's very right wing.

>>130151130
Not saying it's perfect, I'd argue decentralising corporations through small business grants and measures against antidisruption of new industries, like how the mainstream media publishes hit pieces against the alternative media.

>>130151222
I would imply the preexisting citizens have a right to own their own country and have it run specifically for their interests.

High immigration kills wages.

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>>130149252
>1938+79
>Not being a Esoteric Codreanutarian

Meanwhile Fascism is just the left trying to use racial nationalism to take power. Fascism was based on socialist parties.

>>130151327
Generally through an insane web of laws and taxes that a small business can't pass through, as Walmart and Amazon can hire a warehouse full of lawyers without a dent to their profit. More obviously in the cases where the US government bails out companies that are too big to fail.

>>130151402
Samurai worked under lords. They were about as "private" an entity as the FBI.

>>130151327
Neither of those is a monopoly.

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>>130150964
Not quite. They did have large public works programs and a major welfare state (of course the welfare was administered to those who were racially German and not unfit for society). Furthermore they did take over industries with military strategic value. They also did put greater taxes on private businesses to help redistribute wealth but at the same time were fond of giving out subsidies and other state assistance to private businesses. I'd assume something like walmart would be nationalized.
>>130151172
China isn't fascist ya nig
>>130151498
This is probably the stupidest post ITT

>>130151498
Fascism is corporatism. You know the thing liberals scream about, it's the merger of state and corporate power

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Lolbergtardianism is pure cancer. They want the same globalism and open borders as the left but with slightly lower tax rates. The entire ideology is repugnant

>>130149252
I wholeheartedly agree with you, Based Barron.

>>130151587
Explain the difference between China's economy and a Fascist one. It's all corporatism.

What is the expert at? Fucking his mom?

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>>130151587
>>130151686

>>130150918
>Left/Right is a completely different axis on the political spectrum than authoritarianism/libertarianism.
and a false dichotomy, to boot
>Also, saying all libertarians hold the beliefs of anarcho-capitalism is absurd
Good thing I never said that, then, isn't it?
>If the only way for you to defeat the arguments of a given ideology is to misrepresent it, then you lose.
You're admitting defeat?!

>>130151267
why? most fascist economic models start of from capitalist systems with the big difference being the end goal of economic activity. In capitalism the end goal is enrichement of the individuals at the top, in fascism the end goal is enrichement of society and the creation of a strong country

>>130151399
that would require an all white ethno-state where only males have voting rights. not really something promoted by libertarianism...

>>130151498
>>>reddit

>>130151535
So they became the largest corp and then they have made this system you describe to keep them at the top? because that sounds like the problem is still the same

>>130151402
>There is right wing libertarianism and there is left wing libertarianism.
translation
>There is red that is blue and red that is red. Red that is blue makes more sense than red that is red
Nonsense

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The clock is ticking.
You must choose.

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>>130151901
Every-single thread. Hitlers """""socialism""""" is not Marxism. Pic related

And yes unregulated capitalism is cancer, and should rightfully be crushed.

Modern capitalism is just as subversive as Marxism. The materialistic view of life on which both systems are based is identical. As long as we only talk about economic classes, profit, salaries, and production, and as long as we believe that real human progress is determined by a particular system of distribution of wealth and goods, then we are not even close to what is essential.

>>130150814
i fucking WISH the u.s. were anywhere near as fascist/nazi as the deluded antifa fantasies make it out to be, what the fuck?

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>>130150369
>Implying there would be voting in an AnCap world.
>>130150477
>>130150638
>Implying libertarianism is the same thing as Anarchy.

HAHAHAHAHAHA you guys are funny.
I mean, you are also a bunch of pseudo-intellectual cry babies who wants the governemnt to control everything because you can't take care of yourself due to the fact that you are still sucking on mommy's tit and has never had a job.

>>130150918
Thank you, atleast someone get's it.
>>130151344
What kind of response could anyone possibly have against that sort of argument? It's flawless, I mean I see it now, you have cleared up everything for me. Its the most brilliant thing I have ever read.

>>130151933
Fascism evolved from Socialism and Communism, Italian Fascism was closer to it's origin than Nazism, simply because of the order in which these ideologies evolved.

>>130152111
You don't have to be a Marxist to be a socialist. Hitler was still a socialist and rejected many far right opinions. He just replaced "the proletariat" with "the volk".

>>130150764
>resort to fascism
More like strives for fascism
It's a good thing

>>130151941
You asked me what the problems with relying on government to mediate the economy like in fascism was and I told you, take your sneaky Jew tricks elsewhere now.

I don't have to pay for the degeneracy of a libertarian

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>>130149390
No, Libertarianism would see every industry move to the 3rd world for cheap labor, while the few rich whites here would hire Mexicans for all the jobs that can't be outsourced.
>close the borders & kill all leftists
That's what we're trying to do, you're on the wrong team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMypCinkRk

>>130152401
>poles in charge of brains

>>130149252
The only thing as funny as
>"Classical Liberals aren't Liberals"
schtick is the
>'Italian Fascists, National Socialists, and Spanish Francoists were all Fascist and fit under one definition'
retardation
The Spanish Falange was right-wing (pro-Church, pro-Monarchism, pro-Tradition, pro-hierarchy) while Fascism and National Socialism were left-wing (anti-Church, anti-Monarchism, Modernist, socially egalitarian); Fascism was Syndicalist, NatSoc was Socialist, and the Falange was proto-Distributist in their economics; etc.
You can't treat them as the same!

>>130152301
Socialism existed before Marx wrote his commie books.

>The workers do not own the means of production
>People are not equal
>Welfare is not guaranteed leeches are cut from society
>Private property and industry still exists
Rich people still exist
>Classes of people still exist
In any case the socialism before Marx was entirely workable and did work for Germans until muh free society's decided it was working to well

>>130151863
Fascism is more than just an economic ideology
Anyhow China's economy has been growing at an unprecedented rate due to the change in their economic policy. Picture that but with Nazi Germany's strong environmental protections :)
>>130151901
>National Socialism is Marxist Socialism
D r o p p e d
Go back to posting Hitler Stalin Obama are all socialists memes on facebook faggot

>>130152519
Leaf in charge of arguments.

>>130151803
t. white welfaere leech who thinks his skin color entitles him to gibsmedat.

>>130151543
They were paid, could be hired, mostly had a code but you could also hire ronnin. It was free market rights enforcement agencies.

>>130152038
Left libertarianism is a bit senseless sometimes, it's at best a nightwatchman state with random acts of mob violence from "community policing," the left libertarian response to policing without an authority.

The whole libertarian game is about minimising what states actually do.

>>130152111
Yet another boot licker that can't think of solutions to problems outside of force or big government policy.

Uncreative, violent, brutish and ugly in at least one way. Fascist.

>>130152454
Why? Your consumer base is in the west and westerners are willing to work?

>>130152526
Natsoc
>anti-church
>Egaliatarian
You dense retard

>>130152614
A policy of National Socialism is no gibs without work which means no welfare leaches
If you don't know shit about the ideology you are debating then why are you

>>130149671
can you give a short description of what confederacy is?

>>130149252
Libertarianism in theory is a good thing. But it's a weak ideology in the fact that it is about "total freedom" and minimal government.

A libertarian society will always be hijacked by left or right wing politics because they are inherently stronger ideologies and actually have some structure to them

>>130149252
His fidget spinner is so gay. Red????? Really Barron. Might as well have gotten a rainbow one with pink dicks on the three points.

>>130152572
>China grows because they privatize
That's my argument. Their problem is their authoritarianism, that's what I'm addressing.

>>130152572
>Hahaha yeah well he may be socialist but he wasn't Marxist so your assertion that his platform was based on socialist principles and thus left wing ideology is wrong pal better luck next time.
>>130152553
Then my original post should be correct. Unless of course you're going to deny socialist policies and nationalization alongside the demolishing of small private businesses of large value not being part of the political left.

>>130152614
>implying
If you have even read Natsoc economical policies you'll see that everyone must contribute to his society and those who do not get no welfare

Please go show me the degenerates getting government money from the Nazi's though

>>130152883
Why are you using the syndicalist cat on an ancap flag?

>>130152831
>Meanwhile Fascism is just the left trying to use racial nationalism to take power.
Uhh no sweetie
Go ahead though prove 100% that fascism is actually left

>>130152962
Gadsden flags aren't ancap tardo and there are a million variations of this meme flag

>>130152631
They were paid with taxes collected from peasants by the lords. "Ronin" were just vagrants. If you were, say, military police and then you were dishonorably discharged and became a homeless person, does that make you in any way, shape or form private law-enforcement?

If you want libertarian law enforcement, look at private security companies and Citizen's Arrest/Hue&Cry.

>>130152802
>>130152850
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_People%27s_Welfare
All I'm seeing is that the workers must sacrifice themselves for the state and that anyone from the unemployed to the poor received benefits. Sounded very much like the Nazi party was trying to be a moral vanguard in charity and kindness.

>>130149252
yay more divide-and-conquer

libertarians and natsocs want similar things, they just have different methods of achieving a good society, all of these "natsocs r dumb" and "lolberts r dumb" threads are just shills who want to distract us, and you're a fucking idiot if you reply.


Sage in all fields

>>130153050
Black and yellow represent modern day loberts you dumb nigger. It doesn't matter what it represented 200 years ago. Your memes make no sense.

>>130149252
Is there a difference?

>>130153041
The National Socialist party was fiscally left wing on almost every policy. Don't tell me you think that being socially conservative automatically makes a party not left.

>>130153074
Point 10 of the Nazi's very first doctrine

The first obligation of every citizen must be to productively work mentally or physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all.

No work no welfare

>>130151803
>lolbergtardianism
/thread
Can't believe it took this far down the thread before this term was used.

>>130153118
Nah, this thread is obviously useful as for some reason a ridiculous number of the people on this board still think libertarianism means open borders liberalism.

>>130153241
libertarians aren't ancaps
90% of you are 100% retarded

>>130153265
Try centrist dumb goy
Ever heard the phrase "Third Position"

Fascism and natsoc cannot be actually put on a simple left or right chart nor can they be called socialists or capitalists. They are something else

>>130149252
>1 post by this id

You're all a bunch of fucking faggots holy shit

>>130153369
Third position sure sounds like they're trying to hide their left wing fiscal policies as not being left wing.

>>130152825
Yeah they went from a policy of gommunism to state capitalism like the nazis
>>130152831
>Fascism is purely an economic ideology
Go suck some jew cock more you lolbert faggot
>>130153074
You know what happened before they took power. Global economic recession. They weren't welfare leaches.

>>130150755
And especially NatSoc. Eww. Centrally planned near off-shoot of Marxism, contradictory, and ultimately pathetic an ideology.

>>130153458
>Well yeah Fascism may be heavily left wing on a lot of internal issues but they didn't like gays so checkmate.

>>130153449
Their third position because their neither capitalists nor socialists.

I know it's hard for your small brain to imagine but you don't have to be a Commie or a Jew, there is a "third option"

>>130153365
Ancaps are just extreme lolberts you dumb nigger. Learn how the political compass works.

>>130153369
I'm putting you on a chart that makes you economically centrist, and therefore gay.

>>130153449
Is this your entire argument?
>Da nazis wer left wing
Go back to r/The_Donald where they would appreciate this level of discourse

>>130152671
It isn't my fault you haven't read a book.

>>130153062
No, I want an entire society without any authoritative law enforcement. That's why I gave an example in history or at least the best I could find. It's not ancap if it's not anarchy.

>>130153434
There's actual (almost) discussion on this thread, sorry we're not giving your cuckoldey bait thread any (you)s instead.

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>>130149721
>libertarian implies freedom to outsource, freedom to hire foreigners, freedom from state regulations
Hit the nail on the head. It's sad that these yellows don't have an argument against this and are all ignoring it.

>>130153449
Idk who isnt familiar with the fact that NatSoc has more "left" economic policies due to the need to keep the Jewier elements of capitalism in check...it is called National SOCIALISM you know

Libertarianism is hipster politics

>>130153525
>haha so what Adolf Hitler revitalized the German economy incredibly quickly THEY WERE EBIL SOCIALISTS AND PROBABLY DIDN'T EVEN READ AYN RAND

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>>130153535
and nazis are just racist commies
hurr work for your monthly dole instead of just working for a paycheck

>>130153580
This.

>>130153564
You can try but they take from the right extreme and left extreme. They don't counteract each-other like a math sum and make you centrist.

They cannot accurately be put on a very limiting left or right chart.

>>130153612
Please show me where Hitler disvows Christianity and says everyone's equal, look up the definition of Egalitarian. Nazi society was not egalitarian if you were poor you had a harder time getting rich then a factory owner born into riches

>>130153614
The example you gave isn't even an example of private law enforcement. Again, look up Citizen's Arrest and the Hue & Cry. Hell, look up Celtic Law while you're at it.

>>130153580
My original argument was that they are based on left wing ideologies.
>>130153531
Most of their policies come from socialist platforms.
>>130153658
Then I'm right on calling them a derived form of left wing politics since they are heavily left wing in regards to a large part of their internal affairs
>>130153681
>Look I admit you're right BUT YOU ARE SILLY

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>>130153735
>The people who killed communists were just "racist commies".
God you people are fucking dumb.

>>130153836
No most of their polices come from traditionalism and tribalism. Modern capitalism which yellow snake niggers love didn't exist back in the 1400's

>>130152454
kudos

>>130153657
Actually I'm not replying to it because I already replied to the exact same point earlier in the thread.

>>130153836
What's wrong with deriving certain good left wing policies to further your people and nation?

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>>130150027
This is true. There were generous programs under NatSoc for white mothers. Welfare should be entirely abolished. Libertarianism may not necessarily naturally weed out the niggers, but it would certain radically thin the numbers of those who are dependent on welfare.

>>130149390
You know that majority of people on food stamps are whites tho? There's more poor whites than there's poor niggers. (cuz blacks are just 14% of population, proportionally there are more poor blacks)

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>>130153890
Except you were, bunch of socialist boot licking faggots. Too beta to compete on your own so you need your guaranteed monthly hand out instead of just working for a paycheck. Killing people doesn't mean you can't have the same or similar ideology as them. Look at how many monarchies have went to war with each other. Fuck you're stupid. Nazis just base things on race instead of class, otherwise exactly the same.

>>130154020
The post I replied to was the fourth post of the thread, and you didn't post any earlier than that.

>>130154081
And you know those white mothers had Husbands right? and were ecnouraged to be them

Libertarian's and capitalism wants mothers working because that's 50% of your population not working in factories and buying whore shoes

>>130154040
Nothing. Too bad no good left wing policies exist.

>>130154116
Point 10 of Nazi's first doctrine

The first obligation of every citizen must be to productively work mentally or physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all.

No work no welfare
If you don't work your welcome to starve to death in natsoc

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All you larpers (especially we Americans) who think it would be glorious to live under some Racial / Nationalist Facism better pray you aren't too degenerate because living under a dictator means you can become the enemy at the drop of a hat, by decree.

>>130154201
Actually I looked back and realized that I I fact did reply to that post.

>>130154313
Actually read fascism and how the one party state works your so uneducated on the topic it's funny

I agree.
And I gotta say, their followers are just as obnoxious, thin skinned and autistic as leftists.

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>>130154105
34% are non-hispanic Caucasians in a country composed 63.7% of non-hispanic Caucasians.
Non-hispanic Africans are 12.2% of the population, but make up 22% of SNAP participants.

>>130154081
>promoting white birth rates is bad
>>130154237
Unless you think being completely on the right on the political spectrum is optimal for a society then you just contradicted yourself. Left right spectrum is kind of a meme but if you were to plot fascism it would be around authoritarian centrism

>>130150657
>why do ancaps strawman
oh yea because no one strawmans ancaps ever. Now if you cancer-post again it would be pollution my screen aka violating my property rights. You just broke the NAP. *teleports behind you*

heh nothing personal kid.
*uses recreational mustard gas*

>>130149924
>>130154379
Well this isn't an argument. You're ignoring his, just as I stated.

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>>130154205
I'm a traditionalist and a Libertarian. Some may say they're incompatible, but Libertarianism places the ultimate authority in the home. Find a wife who wants to rear your children and hold ultimate authority in your home. Plus, under Hitler there was TONS of women that were party members, many whom held high positions.

>>130149252
I think he is cute... Is something wrong with me?

>>130154205
Actually, I want mothers at home raising their children, as employers will not be forced to hire liabilities, and there will be no state funded daycare.

>>130154457
In a fascist society they would be revoked of citizenship and deported and the whites on welfare would be required to work
But you would rather dismantle the welfare system because the nigs would hopefully leave

>>130150477
>another pleb who thinks libertarian = anarchy

fuck off. we want LIMITED government.

>>130154521
Wrong party membership was kept low and women were heavily enocraged to be house wives they even lived by the ww1 motto of Women the three k's (In German)

Children/Kitchen/Church. Capitalism wants women working if you have 50% of your population at home raising kids that's a lot of gdp and shoes and lipstick and dresses and pink things not being sold

>poor people still complaining

'bout to buy your daughters hymen with bitcoin

>>130154116
Your memes are cringy as fuck.
>Except you were, bunch of socialist boot licking faggots.
Hitler wasn't a socialist. And the faction of the party (Strasserites) that could be considered socialist still opposed communism.
>Too beta to compete on your own so you need your guaranteed monthly hand out instead of just working for a paycheck.
1. Welfare isn't socialism.
2. Show me one shred of evidence that Nazi Germany had this type of universal basic income
>Killing people doesn't mean you can't have the same or similar ideology as them.
Yes it does, why would they kill communists if they were in fact communists? That would be like cutting off your own dick. It makes no sense.
>Look at how many monarchies have went to war with each other.
They were monarchies in a different country dumbass. Monarchs would have no reason to purge their own supporters.
>Fuck you're stupid.
I'd personally put every libertarian against a wall if I could. You're lucky I'm not an absolute dictator.
>Nazis just base things on race instead of class, otherwise exactly the same.
The entire basis of communism is class you insufferable retard.

>>130154513
No, nothing about libertarianism implies that. Read "The Case for Free Trade and Restricted Immigration".

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>>130154428
You're* and no...I'm not. A one-party state is preferred under Fascism and Communism alike, because central authority means no opposition. Opposition, in turn, is considered anti-nationalistic or anti-party. This makes you an enemy. I do acknowledge that there were several 1/2 to 1/4 Jews in power positions under Hitler but only because they bought the ideology hook, line and sinker.

>>130154615
Sure you do but coca cola doesn't. Coca cola wants to sell you cheap cola and if getting women into the workforce helps that and seels more coke their going to push that

The free market makes the most profit does it not from your point of view so that's What's going to happen. We're so far into capilism we have people dropping kids off at daycare because both parents need to work

>>130153802
So you haven't read a book.
Gleichschaltung was the process by which '...National Socialism shall replace all Volk attachments to class, region, and religion and have only an attachment to the volk who are all of equal dignity...'
The core concept of the Volkisch was that all Aryans are equal in the eyes of the law as well as equal in opportunity. National Social Welfare systems were put into place to ensure the equality of the Volk.
Broad egalitarianism? No, but still egalitarianism.
The attacks on the Catholic Church by the Nazis are legendary with Auschwitz and other camps holding (and killing) thousands of priests, monks, and nuns. Some versions of Christianity were outright banned.
Look up a good book on the kirchenkampf and educate yourself

>>130154855
Explain it to me here.

you can have a libertarian state if it is designed in such a way that the hardest thing for the federal government to do is create permanent laws or structures. Similarly at the state level. There is nothing wrong with having borders for a libertarian state, its just a matter of what laws can be enforced in regards to those borders. Additionally, if welfare doesnt exist then there is basically no incentive for 3rd world gib seekers to come here.

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>>130153657
Business was segregating nigs and spics perfectly fine until fags like you decided we had to create laws to force business to integrate.

>freedom to hire foreigners
except foreigners are useless trash and most business only accept them to fit diversity quotas

>outsourcing freedom from state regulations
yup, environmental regulation is so atrocious and ineffective its now cheaper to ship stuff to the other side of the world and hire a bunch of useless shit labor than to use your own people. congrats?

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>>130154882
t.uneducated libertarian. See pic related

>>130154902
>We're so far into capilism we have people dropping kids off at daycare because both parents need to work
Doesn't sound profitable in the long term, so the entity of capitalism doesn't support it.

>>130154919
Holocaust meme again. No a core concept of natsoc is people are not equal and those with the drive will rise to positions of power.

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>>130154753
Kept low, but not altogether banned. Why? Because no matter what system you put in place there are some ambitious brawds who will resist gender-normativity.

>>130154922
Nigger, it's like 10 pages and I'm on my phone.

>>130155172
Show me one women with any sort of power in Nazi Germany.

One

>>130154882
>No opposition
Wrong

>>130155038
>foreigners are useless trash and most business only accept them to fit diversity quotas
Not today. The de facfo language of the construction force isn't spanish because of affirmative action. It's because spics will work for cheap while native whites have a much higher cost of living. This won't change when affirmative action gets repealed.

>>130155121
>Doesn't sound profitable in the long term, so the entity of capitalism doesn't support it.
Explain how having a larger labor pool which in turn increases competition for jobs and lowers wages isn't profitable

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>>130155040
Well aware of those laws. Show me where in the laws it permitted the Jews to be exterminated? It doesn't. That wasn't written into the law. Why? Because, historically, written law is above a leader. It protects the people from an authoritarian.

>>130155458
And Jews weren't exterminated. Or are you going to actually prove the holocaust

Shitposts are just as bad as bait threads

>>130155372
Because it damages the birth rate, you just said that.

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>>130154484
Looks like he hit a nerve w/ you, faggot. So delicious.

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>>130155242
There were several in charge of prisoner camps. Not power, to be sure, but not gender-normative. I think it's important to understand, I respect NatSocs. I respect people with an ideology. I don't think it would be altogether terrible, particularly if you're a party member. However, I prefer a written law to a dictator's decree.

>>130155357
To add to this, there are many work forces like construction that are nearly 100% spic. This isn't affirmative action, this is the corporation maximizing profits.

>>130150849


Socialist-tier 'we need people to be a certain way' faggotry.

>>130155572
>inb4 the lolberg shows his true kike colors and starts whining about muh 6 gorillion.

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>>130155572
If you truly believe that then well, I respect your opinion I just don't share it.

>>130155597
And capitalism doesn't care about the far future just the next hundred years. Capitalists want cheap nigger workers they don't care about the people who live near them or the cities they slowly take over they'll be dead by the time whites are south Africa tier.

>>130155357
Looks like someone bought the Jewish "Mexicans are hard workers who do farming, construction and cleaning myth."
they concentrate in cities and sell drugs and abuse welfare

>>130155814
Hello r/donald newfag joined after trayvon or the election which one.

Muh holcaust was real, fucking cuck 101 right there

>>130155930
Can you address to this post as well please.
>>130155700

>>130155917
How many times am I going to have to tell you to stop constructing straw men before you listen?

>>130156168
Hoppe already does in "the case for free trade and restricted immigration".

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>>130155597
That's why capitalism promotes mass immigration

>>130156368
Well I'm mobile too right not, but I'll read it in bit. Probably after this thread is gone sadly.

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>>130156168
the only reason they are over represented in low end jobs is because they forced hire for diversity and then they are too stupid to ever advance into management

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>>130156118
Hahahaha. Okay, Breh. Good one. You certainly can't say NatSocs aren't original. Like I said before, I don't hate NatSocs I think Nationalism is good I just don't think Authoritarianism is. True cuckoldry is the us vs them mentality that Communists and Neo-Leftists hold. It's absurd. Pick your dick up, Pussy. If you're secure in your ideology, my words make no difference to you.

>>130150168
You are a dickhead, and uneducated. Even a mudslime like me understands that you must be severely disabled, and I pray for your parents. Libertarianism has many different sects, with retards like Gary Bum Johnson, and pragmatists. Pragmatist Libertarians believe that purism would not work. I would advocate for three things.

1. Keeping government ran agencies and departments, but slashing the budget 70%
a. Get rid of stupid no bid contracts and lower military budget to essentially equalize it with how much it is now as you will save money when NBCs are erased.
b. Possibly, I would support (Begrudgingly as fuck) Universal Basic Income. Ultimately, automation is coming, and tons of skill-less people will be fucked. We need a solution to that, if it is not UBI.
c. Get rid of all welfare and socal security if UBI is adopted.
d. Increase the infrastructure budget
e. Cut regulations, and disband the FCC.
2. Demolish the C.I.A.
3. Keep the F.B.I.
4. Cuck the Congressional and Executive branch (probably should be done last) and restore the fucking 10th Amendment.
5. Exit any existing wars, and immediately declare war on North Korea.
6. Embrace Nationalism, and a respect for your motherland.
7. Demolish the NSA
8. Get rid of the 14th and 15th Amendments, and prompt states that want them to put them in their Constitution.
9. With the 30% budget left, which will be approximately 1 trillion dollars (little less), make the military budget half of that.
10. Keep any social programs cost low, or else abolish it federally and prompt states to do it.
11. Build the fucking wall.

>>130156423
There ya go

>Capitalism wants women in the workforce being good goy buyers and looking at fashion magazines and buying $2000 shoes
>This hurts birth rates
>Therefore bring in cheap labor who work for even less then the whites would of
>If these whites want to live and work they can't have a family or they have to have both parents working
>And repeat.

>>130156423
I'll just tell you to look at "the case for free trade and restricted immigration" as well since I need to go. Btw, the title is misleading as he also makes an argument for using tariffs in some cases.

>>130156662
natsoc is original it was /new/ which got shutdown (for being natsoc the board) then turned into /pol/.

It's funny how many people think entire economies can be so simply managed...ideologies lead to some pretty facile beliefs. I can't wait till "degenerate nigger whites" are a thing.

>>130156702
And anyone with a brain knows this is suicidal and doesn't support this. Nothing to do with capitalism, unless you'd like to tell me internationalist communists are also secret capitalists.

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>>130156702
>tfw you use a statement by a natbol to back up a point
Capitalism wants none of this. Some luxury markets are fine but women abusing welfare so they can aford useless shit is not a capitalist system.

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my dudes i do not know whether I fall into nationalism or libertarian-ism

i considered myself both but am told they are incompatible

any advice appreciated

>>130157069
>Capitalism thinks in the long term

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>>130156836
I meant that "cuck" is unoriginal. I have to reiterate I like NatSocs. I thoroughly approve of Nationalism. I want there to be some middle ground between us. Infighting is for Communists. We need unity.

>>130157129
I already established ITT that I'm not a nazbol
Are you going to say I'm a pirate now?

>>130157285
Correct. Or at least, I support it and I do.

>>130157069
That implies capitalists care about society. They care about profit, who cares if 300 years down the line whites are a minority as long as coca cola gets to make cheaper cola because there's competition trying to do the same thing. Even in ancap the free market is harsh so these companies want to sell the cheapest best goods available and having 50% of your population sitting out is not cheap. But i forgot all capitalists are actually hyper nationalists and put the nation over profits

>>130157129
Capitalism wants profit at all cost as long as it doesn't effect them in their life time that's fine. It's why the boomers sold off industry to China

>>130153272
hi, guy who originated the lolbergtardian meme here. glad you appreciate it but i try to use it sparingly these days so as to not wear it out too much
some guns you only take out to the range on special occasion, you know?

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>>130157321
>I want there to be some middle ground between us.

There can be no middle ground between those who extol their race and those who extol the individual. You are wrong and that is all there is to it.

>>130157485
I'm arguing for what's best for my self and my genes, this would involve looking into the future. The industry was exported and because of that we suffer, any intelligent businessman would learn form this and not make the same mistakes. Importing third world laborers is incredibly short sighted, you don't even need to look forward 300 years, try 50.

>>130154313
>as if the state hasn't declared me an enemy at birth for being male, "white", having too much intelligence, and having illegal opinions
i'd rather be killed by an actually white ethnostate i helped to form than to toe any line with you fucking kikes
die

>>130157451
Capitalism cares about immediate profits more than the long term effects on society. Do businesses do things to protect workers and the environment of their own volition? Sometimes, but what is generally required is legislation.

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>>130157843
That's a ridiculous assertion. I believe in some legitimate role of government. If, written into the law of the government, are race protections so be it. There is a middle ground to be had, no matter how hard you cling to your righteousness (to your determent) like a Commie.

>>130157485
boomers did not sell off industry to china, industry was forcefully pushed out by environmental regulation and unions run by a bunch of communist jews.

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>>130157857
You are not the owner of coca cola or several major industries your opinion doesn't matter to them. in Ancap. If you want the true (((Free market))) that's it. Mexicans will work for dirt and this will lower the cost of your goods.

If Microsoft had big competition it would use super cheap slave labour tier chinese workers to produce it's things and that would make their products cheaper meaning the would succeed in the free market.

Karl Marx is for free trade for this very reason. Pic related

>>130158083
What legislation forced Ford to better his working conditions?

>>130158274
What legislation makes McDonald's not make people work 12 hours straight with no overtime pay or get fired. Oh wait a lot of them

>>130158274
I didn't say there weren't exceptions
And Ford's workers worked a lot harder than most

>>130158272
>>130158418
I'm not always for international free trade, hence the National bit of National-Libertarianism. Free trade refers to the domestic. https://mises.org/sites/default/files/13_2_8_0.pdf

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>>130158272
remember we all most do the exact opposite of what marx said. and since marx was against jews, we must all now go out and suck jewish dick

>>130158754
Like I said it doesn't matter if there's a local store owner conservative christian what matters is what the big corporations do.
>National-Libertarianism
Contradictory as fuck your society would split within three decades into people who want more economic freedom, people who want more authoritarian measure put in place. Libertarians are Self>Society that's hardly nationalistic.

The large companies would be for opening up the borders for cheap labor and with the media's backing these laws would pass
If a company could get away with not paying overtime they would.

>>130159013
So what Marx's points still stand free open international trade unites the workers and destroys homogeneous cultures and society's. Free trade brings in Mexicans and ships American jobs overseas because it's cheaper

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>>130150027
>>130153074
Soooooo, you think that in an An-Cap society you would be able to be 100% self-sufficient, living a lifestyle of subsistence free of taxes. That's cool, I get the appeal. But let's say Joseph and Cletus and their friends down the road (LOL) decide to violate your NAP, raid you and take your land and wealth. Obviously you're going to need help with some sort of sophisticated defense network. How are you going to even compensate these people? Raw charisma? Daily rations? Free ammo? kek, you just started a fascist micro-government to protect your opium plantation. So you've got to choose your party of An-Cap employees, who will you hire as your right hand man?

Juan Pablo de Salamanca-Alvarez, a man whom speaks little English who brings his family that breeds small, lazy dependents?
Tyrone DeShawn Lamarkus IV, a tough inner-city fellow whom speaks English, but does so with a dialect of guttural slang and has a ravenous sexual appetite and gets your female staffers pregnant. He has no formal gun training, has no sense of urgency until the gunfire starts, and fires his glock 18 full-auto, sideways.
Or Michael Schaffer, a man who has been firing guns with his father since he was eight and is already a self-taught expert, speaks English fluently, and always has valuable input on tactical security measures.

If you picked Schaffer, you're more of a NatSoc then you'd think, not that you would ever cut it as a bonafide anarchocapitalist businessman/fascist/feudalist. Be brave, stop being a closeted right-wing authoritarian. You're either not getting out of the house enough to see how people work, or you've got a leftist GF.

>>130154081
No welfare is a good goal, but largely unachievable, I'm afraid. Every society has dependents, and weak-minded people will pay or lobby whoever's in charge to fight the harsh reality that people DO starve. However, I agree the wasteful bureaucracy and gimme-dats in this country are out of control.

>>130159309
The interest of myself is the interest of society when we're all the same ethnicity. And Polish Coca-Cola's CEO gets one vote, and probably a boycott for his immoral business practice of trying to destroy out nation.

>>130159309
>Free trade brings in mexicans
No it doesnt. the only thing that brings in mexicans is welfare. If they where coming over to work they wouldnt be gathering in cities with the niggers. Ive worked construction and restaurant management
1 white person = 5 mexicans = 20 niggers
doesnt matter if the mexican costs half the price its still a shitty deal

>>130159502
Polish coca cola ceo gathers up all the other ceo and lobby this gets past under the guise of more freedom and more efficient trade and a open market for more opp unities for polish workers since this will supposedly create more jobs.

You idiots say it all the time "the free market finds a way"

>>130159652
Don't forget higher paying jobs and higher standards of living compared to whatever Central American shithole they came from

>>130150477
>thinks libertarian = anarchist
gg faGGot

>>130159652
A Mexican will landscape your house for half price compared to whites. Even if he didn't get welfare he sends some back home to this other Mexicans and the free market just made a profit for the homeowner who hires the Mexican more

>>130159748
More freedom for who, foreigners? He'd have a very hard time arguing looser borders In a nation where roughly 70% of the population support a complete immigration ban on all Muslims. I just don't think we need a welfare state to keep the niggers out.

>>130159752
>higher paying jobs
except no one would hire them if it wasnt for diversity quotas. and if people had a choice of who they could rent to they woildnt even be able to get homes. if i own property and i had the choice of renting to either
a.) white people
b.) mexicans who will destroy my property
who the fuck do you think i would rent the property out too

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>>130159371
I agree welfare is a good goal. I just don't believe the government are the people to provide it. Private charity already does a better job than bureaucracy (which you did address so I appreciate that).

no welfare would be great

>>130154533
That is the reason this picture is posted. It's functionally equivalent to posting a thread with a hot girl.

>>130160138
>no one would hire them if it wasnt for diversity quotas
You know how many whites apply to be construction workers and or farm hands in California?
Also kikes gladly rent to spics by making low cost housing that even if gets shit up is still profitable

God Tier
>Integralist Fascism
>Radical Humanism
>National Socialism (political - Gaddafi)
>Discordianism / Accelerationism
>Mammalism

High Tier
>National Socialism (ideological - NSDAP)
>Fascism
>Transhumanism

Mid Tier
>Greens
>Reactionaryism
>Democratic Socialism

Low Tier
>Neoliberalism / DNC
>Libertarianism
>Bolshevik Communism
>White Nationalism

Trash Tier
>Anarcho-Socialism
>Anarcho-Capitalism
>Authoritarian Capitalism
>Neoconservatism / GOP
>SJWs
>Authentic Communism
>Zionism

>>130160133
More freedom since not being allowed to sell and create goods how you want is statist and it impacts the biggest companies.

You want more job opportunities and more gdp don't you. They'll be the good ones goy they won't be Muslims they'll be christian Africans or Catholic Hispanics and you'll get cheaper food and goods.

national liberarism is a walking conriditctrion a free market does not mean your a nationalist since shit like porn,drugs,fast food daycare,women working all impact on profit making the goods cost more meaning they'll fail in the free market

>>130150370
That's totally possible. Libertarianism believes in a legitimate, limited role of government. If, written into the laws of that government, is a dedicated peace-keeping force, Libertarians would accept it. It may be more like the wild west where a sheriff uses Posse Comitatus (the power of the community) and recruits deputies to deal with a threat the community agrees is a threat.

Dont see whats bad in having a free market, closed borders and a state to set laws

>>130160742
Free market
closed borders
Pick one

>>130160502
You can sell goods the way you want domestically, but there will be tariffs placed on foreign countries, as to insure the development of the nations industries. Importing foreigners decreases job opportunities, that wouldn't fly, completely basic supply and demand. And I have no clue what you're trying to say with the last point.

>>130160864
Hoppe already picks two, not my fault you refuse to read anything by people that disagree with you.

>>130150878
The current system is regulated as fuck. Name three things you can do that aren't regulated or illegal. I'll start you off
1. Breathe

>>130160326
How it used to work:
you have two options
a.) hire white people who do a good job and work hard, but cost more
b.) hire shitty niggers and mexicans who 1/15 of the work for 1/3 of the pay
hmmm such a hard decision.....*hires white people*

how it works now :
you have two options
a.) hire keshia la'ftysniekjbrv
b.) face heavy fines.

>>130160864
>unironically having a nazi flag

Ideally it would be better having open borders for a free market if the government werent out to give free shit to migrants

>>130149252
Yes you are right /thread.

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>>130160959
If walmart wants to import cheap Mexican workers it can do so. Ancap is a retard ideology made for and by actual Jews.

>>130160907
Importing foreigners grows the job market since more workers = more consumers = more jobs.

>>130161116
a.) hire white people who do a good job and work hard, but cost more
b.) hire shitty niggers and mexicans who 1/15 of the work for 1/3 of the pay
hmmm such a hard decision.....*hires mexicans * since mexicans do simple labour for cheaper and putting a lid on a bottle or something dosn't take skill it just requires you to sit there

Ask all those children in Indian sweatshops if they have to be skilled

>>130151803

> Taxes

That's why libertarians are shit, if you go for deregulation fucking man up and go for anarcho-capitalism

>>130161470
>If walmart wants to import cheap Mexican workers it can do so.
No, it can't. We already went over how short sighted this is. If ancapistan had open borders it would be flooded by mexishits that immediately made it have welfare, nobody is stupid enough to support this without a sinister motive.
>Importing foreigners grows the job market since more workers = more consumers = more jobs.
Neat theory, but empirically false. Demand side economics are definitely not Libertarian.

>>130149252
If welfare didn't exist blacks wouldn't even be 4% of the US population.

>>130159752
Yeah but hitler was a big fat faggot

>>130161828
>No, it can't. We already went over how short sighted this is. If ancapistan had open borders it would be flooded by mexishits that immediately made it have welfare, nobody is stupid enough to support this without a sinister motive.

And capitalists are short sighted. Oh but I forgot capitalists got to the top by being nationalistic and friendly and not trying to save every penny they can. Ancap will import non whites since it's ANARCHISM and unless your whites want to work like the Chinese their going overseas or bringing Mexicans in

You seem to think the average ceo actually cares if you have to live next to niggers, he doesn't he lives in a mansion with his own pmc and gets to sell cheap goods. It's happening all over the place

For instance the Australian milk industry is being fucked by international companies making their own branded milk and because they have buying power they can take out other Australian dairy farmers with $1 for a liter of milk compared to 2 or 3 of the normal farmers.

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>>130150248
Progressive in that we leave drug addicts and fags to destroy themselves, physically removing them from our all white communities.

>>130161470
>tfw you realize you are arguing with a 15 year old who has never had a job
Even jobs you think of as easy factory work generally require a good amount of competence. Hell, even fast food, it makes better sense to hire some white kids for a dollar or two more an hour than to try and replace them with a bunch of spics and niggers. Nigger and spic work is always split
20% fucking each other
20% drama/fighting over the fact that they are fucking
55% on cell phone they cant afford
5% actual work (done poorly)
anyone who has a choice would not hire them. Sadly if you work for someone who is even moderately big they will have actual quotas that they give you
Alright, I'm done

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Divide and conquer faggotry.
1 post by this idea.
LET THIS SHIT DIE
SAGE

>>130162345
>And capitalists are short sighted
But I support capitalism and have made these observations, most of my country has made these observations.
>You seem to think the average ceo actually cares if you have to live next to niggers
Some do, some don't, but the consumers do care, and the consumers decide which companies flourish.

>>130162481
A spic digging a hole doesn't take skill
Flipping burgers does not take skill if a 16 year old can do it for his first job
Your making it out like a job at McDonald's requires superior team work and co-ordination to flip burgers, mop the floor and take orders

Ancap would end with Whites and ironically Jews at the top of the rich pyramid with the rest of society being populated by Spics and Whites unfortunate enough to not succeed slaving away at easy to do manual labor for chinese wages

>>130151333
>nazbot saying this

>>130162798
No it is your religious population that has made these decisions, not your capitalists.
>Some do, some don't, but the consumers do care, and the consumers decide which companies flourish.
Yeah and the cheaper goods succeed while the nationalists good paid workers one failed since it's $4 dollars more.

If your average middle class or poor pole was buying a tv or some shit they would buy the $150 dollar cheaper one made in China rather then the one made in Poland

Daily reminder Paleolibertarianism is the masterace.

>>130162834
>Your making it out like a job at McDonald's requires superior team work and co-ordination to flip burgers, mop the floor and take orders
And this is how i know you are 15. Go try it. Or better yet try and manage one. See how much work gets done when jamal is fighting with tyrone because he fucked la'keshia.

>>130163444
>Flipping burgers is hard
Found the actual welfare leech

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>>130149986
not when they see my free market engineered recreational gun

>>130163109
>No it is your religious population that has made these decisions, not your capitalists.
I'm a Catholic, too. I don't understand what your point is, can someone only identify with one thing?
>If your average middle class or poor pole was buying a tv or some shit they would buy the $150 dollar cheaper one made in China rather then the one made in Poland
Depends if there are tariffs or not. I also already try to buy from Polish companies. I also want to step back and ask you what exactly you have a problem with when it comes to what I suggest, as far as I know the only difference between us is the fact that my economy would be more privatized, with lower taxation and less redistribution, and a smaller government. What exactly makes it so my government and populace are corrupt and nationally suicidal, but yours so perfect? Why trust your authoritarian government to uphold you? China's certainly doesn't have the best interest of it's populace at heart.

>>130152154

Fun part is that if it WERE as Nazi/Authoritarian as they would claim it is they wouldn't be out there

They would be splattered against the pavement behind the police station Honduras style

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>Nazi LARPers calling other ideologies "cringe"

>>130163894
And China is communist for starters
Yours allows degenerate shit to exist, drugs,porn,racemixing,women in the workforce not raising kids,prostitution,gays etc. Libertarianism tries to imply people are smart enough to actually look out for themselves when that's clearly not the case.

You do not exist in a vacuum your actions effect the whole community and nation. And as much as you will hate to admit race mixed kids can function in society as do gays and of course working women do as well. Your society will slowly degernate and kill itself once the companies realize the can get more profit by importing non whites

>Depends if there are tariffs or not. I also already try to buy from Polish companies
Sure you do but your average poor pole just wants cheap goods since he's struggling already

>>130149252

>leftism

what the fuck is leftism

i suppose you support muh fuhrer?

>>130164501
ctrl+f
Cringe

One result found, it's yours

>>130150521

>Just talk to any libertarian

few in this thread all saying the opposite schlomo

>>130164501

i love how you can't be a national socialist without it either being a meme or LARPing

this is /pol/, some faggots here are actually nazis. and that's fine, that's the point in the board you retard

>>130150248
>>130164661
Try again, boy-o.

>>130164961
Okay there was one result that wasn't yours. One person said this therefore all x.

You said Larpers that implies more then one person.

>>130165171
I also never said "all", so stop putting words in my mouth.

>>130164850
Kek

>>130164541
China stopped being communist the second they privatized their economy, this made them fascists.
>Libertarianism tries to imply people are smart enough to actually look out for themselves when that's clearly not the case
Libertarianism implies that degenerate activities are just that, they degenerate themselves. Homos die of aids, druggies die too, no socialized healthcare to protect them. And you can't racemix if there's only 1 ethnicity in the nation.
>Your society will slowly degernate and kill itself once yadda yadda yadda
Ok, cool we both believe this, clearly we can get other people to believe this and not engage in degenerate activities. Streets are public property though, and that means no degenerate activities in public.

>>130165351
Nazi Larpers you see that on the end of larper it's an s that implies more the one was calling out cringe

You overreacted at one guy calling the movement cringe at the beginning of the thread which is ages old now.

>>130165625
Jesus, a single fucking letter is all it takes to send you guys over the edge? Autism at its finest.

>>130165351

>kek

nice way to refute an argument

typical Gadsden snake LARPers

>>130166208
What argument? I never said that Nazis couldn't lost on /pol/, all I implied was that people that fetish Adolf Hitler are cringey LARPers.

>>130164501
Libertarianism is the definition of cringe.
You want immigration, niggers, spics and kikes in your country, fuck off.

>>130166425
Post*

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>>130164501

>>130165625
>>130166445
There you go, officially enough Nazi LARPers to justify the "s" on the end.

>>130165837
Gets mad at the word cringe from hours ago.
lmao

>China stopped being communist the second they privatized their economy, this made them fascists.
Im not even going to argue this retarded point China is not fascist. Lets say it is fascist then for the sake of arguing it's going pretty fucking good then it's the biggest economy and set to become the next world super power and it's cucking it's neighbors out of the rich oil seas

Libertarianism implies that degenerate activities are just that, they degenerate themselves. Homos die of aids, druggies die too, no socialized healthcare to protect them. And you can't racemix if there's only 1 ethnicity in the nation.

Exactly the vast majority of homosexuals do not die of aids, and the vast majority of drug addicts don't actually die and if they do it's after 20 years of the shit. And the free market will open the gates if you can show me a society that didn't do that well good luck with that.

Conveniently ignoring the working women point. If you want more profit and cheaper goods which is the whole point of the free market your going to want around 50% of your population buying shoes, and working as teachers and daycare's since the children now get dumped in them.

>Ok, cool we both believe this, clearly we can get other people to believe this and not engage in degenerate activities. Streets are public property though, and that means no degenerate activities in public.
And gays fuck in the sheets doesn't mean it's good for society

>>130166425
>all I implied was that people that fetish Adolf Hitler are cringey LARPers.
Nice try faggot, but your ideology was actually created by a bunch of kikes, pic related.
Also, what's wrong with liking Hitler?

>>130166572
I voted for Trump.

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>>130166796
Forgot pic.

>>130166755
>>130165525
I missed linking you

>>130149252
100

>>130149252
You're right, it destroys the folk, whether it be intentional or not and allows degeneracy to be tolerated within society whereas it should be spurned and stamped out

>>130166796
And people don't fetishize hopp since he's the one ancap who isn't actually Jewish

>>130166425

i never said you said nazis couldn't post, i said that people, like you, seem to assume they are all LARPers and not genuine national socialists

>>130166425
>>130167235
Linked the wrong person

>>130166755
"at the national level the state recognizes one and only one organization (say, a national labour union, a business association, a farmers' association) as the sole representative of the sectoral interests of the individuals, enterprises or institutions that comprise that organization's assigned constituency. The state determines which organizations will be recognized as legitimate and forms an unequal partnership of sorts with such organizations. The associations sometimes even get channelled into the policy-making processes and often help implement state policy on the government's behalf."
Is this describing Fascist Italy or China? you tell me.
>Conveniently ignoring the working women point. If you want more profit and cheaper goods which is the whole point of the free market your going to want around 50% of your population buying shoes, and working as teachers and daycare's since the children now get dumped in them.
Okay, but this destroys the nation, doesn't it? So it would be quite easily argued as a destructive lifestyle, of course my wife will be staying at home, homeschooling the children cause I'm no statist.
>And gays fuck in the sheets doesn't mean it's good for society
Ask Ernst Röhm.
Oh, and just because the state doesn't criminalize private homosexual activity doesn't mean private entities can actively discriminate against drug addicts and homosexuals, meaning that most likely they'll end up being physically removed.

>>130168179
doesn't mean private entities can't actively discriminate against drug addicts and homosexuals*

>>130149252
Nice argument.

>>130168179
Okay, but this destroys the nation, doesn't it? So it would be quite easily argued as a destructive lifestyle, of course my wife will be staying at home, homeschooling the children cause I'm no statist.

Your going to get women in the workforce with a society that treats money as God, capitalists are going to be pushing for women to buy all the things they do now that's billions and billions of dollars worth of profit not being created. You also pretend a moral society can exist without anyone enforcing that morality a gay couple who doesn't go out and have blind sex every-night will exist in libertarian land. Unless you want to be statist and ban this your not a nationalist but just someones who likes a little economic freedom and doesn't really care about the big picture.

>Ask Ernst Röhm.
Yeah you can ask his skull it's got a bullet in the back of it, you can also ask or the homosexuals in the concentration camps if they enjoyed their typhus and dying of starvation

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>>130149721
>freedom to outsource, freedom to hire foreigners, freedom from state regulations

Outsourcing is driven by unreasonable minimum wage and employment regulations, foreigners are attracted by the promise of benefits, the state bleeds white families dry while subsidizing having a dozen niggerspawn and then brings them forcefully to their schools and streets. (while the politicians enjoy private schools, private healthcare and private security in gated communities)

What you imagine you need laws and regulations to promote used to be simple common sense and instinct, and still is. Only leftists need the state and corrupt media to enforce their insane concept of a society where you punish the productive, reward the lazy and annihilate cultural and ethnic bonds. As it is, all western governments are firmly anti-white, and yet you'd prefer to see whites remain under the boot than return to freedom.

>>130168886
*all

>>130168969
So unless Whites work like the Chinese they'll bring in mexicans.

if a company would they would stop paying overtime and treat people a lot more shit. Because lol if you don't work for me you starve to death along with your family

>>130166755
Actually the last person that said "cringe" was like two minutes ago. And what is this fucking rant?

>>130166796
Nothing in particular, but at this point most people that do, don't like him for his political ideologies but more for the fact that he killed Jews. It's basically the ideological equivalent of walking around in a Darth Vader shirt and talking about how think the Sith are actually the good guys.

>>130154484
You're a meme even when you try defending yourself

>>130168886
>Unless you want to be statist and ban this your not a nationalist
No, that would make me an extreme authoritarian, wanting my country to only consist of one ethnicity is what makes me a nationalist.
>Your going to get women in the workforce with a society that treats money as God
Well actually I'll continue advocating for most women not being in the workforce, and raise my children with these morals. We'll never come to an agreement though, as I will continue to believe on classic Catholic theology and believe I can argue and prove the superiority of my lifestyle and have people voluntarily follow it, and you will continue to desire to force people to follow your lifestyle. I'll be going to the gym now, bye bye.