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>>130147975
she will be found guilty of manslaughter, be given 5 years with probation after 2 with 150 hours community service. that or 3 years with probation after 6 months and 100 hours community service

>>130147975
>It's not illegal to bully someone into killing themselves and more importantly it shouldn't be

It is, though. This case is not the first of its kind. The precedent has already been set. She will be found guilty, and rightfully so.

Now delete your shitty thread and fuck off.

>>130147975
She's not mentally ill, she was 17 and experimenting.

>>130147975
Do you know which kind of homicide she was charged with by the prosecution?

ugly whore needs life sentence

>>130148091
How do you know this? Or are you sucking this out of your [insert orifice]?

>>130148235
>ugly whore needs life sentence
This.

>Girl

Not guilty my friend.

>>130147975
Deserves life in a work camp. Unfit to live as a free human being.

Did she break any real laws. Persuading him to do it for her gratification is probably wrong but not illegal. She felt guilty isn't that bad enough? There is no need to victimize her for helping him commit to what he said he wanted. She was just his death coach.

>>130148614
No she didn't from what I understand.

>>130147975
well thats what good ol fashionend vigilante justice should kick in

>>130148235
this
>>130149045
>flag
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME

>>130147975
She's pretty and deserved better than a suicidal beta. Hopefully, soon after exoneration she'll find a tall alpha with a massive dick to make her forget all the trouble that beta caused her.

>>130148398
educated guess from how the courts work for women, especially young "white" women

>>130147975
I hope they give her life.
Hope you die too faggot.

>>130147975
Remove those genes, feminism needs to die so they know their place. I'm 100% sure she's a sociopath and therefor feminist so remove it.

Every girl I've ever dated long enough to hear their "dark secrets" has told me a similar story to this.
A "suicide pact" with some highschool sweetheart or college sweetheart, where she'd instigate a mutual overdose and "wuss out".
All girls have done this at some point in their life.

>>130148403

>ugly

she is a solid 8 m8

For once I agree with libshits about something. It's one thing to troll and tell someone to kill themselves anonymously, but it's a different ballgame when people you know, love and respect do it.

>>130149722
What the fuck kind of girls are you dating

>>130148500
Kinda this. Put her parents there along side.

>>130149722
I proposed to commit suicide together to my gf but she politely declined. This was after I read Luther.

i understand the "slippery slope" thing..but reading her texts...shes kinda evil

>>130147975
I wish I could bully 95% of the subhumans on this board into suicide
Inept permavirgins are scum

>>130147975

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Found her article, her name is Michele Carter

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/mass-woman-charged-boyfriend-death-life-article-1.3232114

The prosecutor charged her with involuntary manslaughter, which is the unlawful killing of another human being absent intent. In order to get a conviction, the prosecution must show the death resulted from a high degree of negligence.

I think she will not get convicted because the prosecutor charged her with the wrong form of homicide when she clearly had intent to kill that guy. However, no other form of homicide works in this situation because there was no factual or proximate causation linking her physical actions to his death due to not being present at the scene.

I could see the prosecutor trying to argue assisted suicide, but she did not materially aid him in committing suicide. She would have had to set the car up for him or actually be present.

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>>130147975
kind of looks like an uglier version of cara

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>>130147975

>>130151179
That is my point. If you look up involuntary manslaughter cases, the charge appears to be reserved for things like accidental death via DUI. It's not even close to being the same caliber as what Michelle Carter did on an objective level. She will walk free

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>>130147975
It better be guilty or else....

>>130147975
She'll get off. While she's a piece of shit, she broke no laws.

Lansky will probably having her filming for BLACKED by the end of the month.

>>130151291
Kek

>>130154002
I fucking HATE niggers! They are dumb, unkind, aggressive, violent, idiotic, unimaginative, sub-human retards.

>>130154542
That was random...

what was the message?

>>130151291
That's a man.

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>>130147975
She is diabolically beautiful.

If I was the judge I'd sentence her to 10 years community service at an animal welfare organisation.

Let's be honest here: putting her in jail isn't going to help anyone. Not her, not society, not her dead boyfriend. She can be rehabilitated by caring for vulnerable creatures and her natural caring instinct rekindled.

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>>130147975
Pic related is what she would look like after she's been 5 years in jail.

>>130147975
>The liberals are now trying to crucify her under the charge of "involuntary manslaughter".
But she's an oppressed woman and the "victim" was a fucking white male!
How come liberals are not on her side?

>>130147975
Was at the grocery store yesterday and saw this on the cover of a magazine in the checkout line: maybe People, dunno.

All I could think was, "Why is this cover-worthy?"

Niggers do shit x10 worse than text someone to kys. Killing each other over chicken, putting babies in the oven, raping the elderly, raping animals, setting animals on fire, etc. NEEEEVVVVER would the nog be the cover story mattering not the degeneracy.

Theories other than 'jews'?

>>130156582
lol this slag isn't getting rehabilitated retard

>>130147975
So what happend?

>>130148213
kek

she looks mildly cute in that pic. would rape.

8 years

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>>130147975
Good on her!

>>130149906
What kind of fucked up FAS mutants (and how many) do you have in your country that would make her an 8 by comparison?

>>130147975
She looks like a soulless evil bitch.

>>130159081
I bet her masculine browline got you excited. Fag

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GET READY

ITS HAPPENING

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/teen-text-killer-livestream-video-michelle-carter-verdict-suicide-boyfriend-conrad-roy/

>>130162500
https://livestream.com/accounts/18968940/events/7476095

better link

>>130147975
She's hot and evil, I like her.

Holy shit she is having a meltdown

>>130162836
>>130162500
Not guilty.
Noice. Maybe she'll have a chance to not act like a retard.

>>130154542
Where there are niggers, the blame lies with kikes. Without kikes in the USA there'd be no niggers at all.

Remember, ever nigger problem is really a Jewish problem.

>>130147975
Here's the thing, there's not federal law that covers this so it's state legislated. She's not being tried in a state where it's illegal, so she won't get convicted on a murder charge but, she will most likely get a pretty heavy guilty conviction and sentence, for the additional, lesser charges.

All and all, it's so fucking disappointing that THIS is even a story, or a case. I mean, whether he killed himself that night or 3 weeks, months, years or decades later, most likely he'd have done it if he really wanted to but, who knows when?! And not for nothing, but who the fuck was SHE to do what she did, to help him along?! It really pisses me off that whether or not this bitch knew he had depression or suicidal thoughts prior to this, she AT LEAST KNEW 100%, that anyone stating they are even thinking of killing themselves, absolutely has problems today. She didn't do what she did because SHE'S been proven to be mentally ill, unable to think clearly, make rational decisions, suffers from a disability, etc., right?! Nope. She's just a dumb, spoiled, teenie-bopper cunt bag, who used this "boyfriend's issues", for HER OWN entertainment and enjoyment.

In my opinion, what she did was WORSE than 95% of the premeditated murders committed in this country because she slowly, methodically and calculatingly, made several conscious, promotive, purposeful and intentional attempts to drive him over the fucking edge. Could you imagine you found out about this, knowing your daughter was actually friends with a girl like this?!? During what's already probably the WORST social times, for a majority of pre-teens and teens, knowing how really mean kids will be to eachother, as a parent, I hope she rots inside her straight jacket from a fucking cell in a max security, for the rest of her life, so that my kid, yours or anyone's isn't caught having a bad day, by this whore. I firmly believe in eye for an eye/making societal examples to set the tone/expectation. Hope she's 1st.

>>130163341

It's not even over yet.

But guilty.

>>130163767
Yeah I spoke too soon. The judge is jewing us out by taking forever.

Innocent Tbh, she's just a victim of American culture that forcefully medicates people starting in childhood. Tom Cruise was right about psychiatry.

>>130163851
K...KEEP ME POSTED

Guilty. As she should be.

>>130163851

Judges are good at jewery.

He made it seem like not guilty, but then spent 4 hours listing all the elements of manslaughter.

going by what the judge is saying this is a guilty verdict and the court will let a higher court sort out the law.

ITS HAPPENING. FOX IS CARRYING IT

WOMEN BTFO. TIME TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS

Hahahaha fuck that psychiatrist.

JUSTICE WAS SERVED. MAY SHE BURN IN HELL. AMEN.

GUILTY OF MANSLAUGHTER

>>130163851
Can't believe she's guilty. Dark day for free speech

>>130163851
>>130164205
Fuck Jews.

I hate this girl but I hope she isn't jailed for the ceime of being mean. Slippery slope and all that.

>>130147975
Bullying someone into suicide is murder....
Tard

>>130147975

http://www.strawpoll.me/13205417
Do you like the flags?

>>130164198
I asked to be kept posted. Is she guilty?

>>130156582
Fuck off Steve Irwin!

Sooooo...

No more kys on 4chan? :(

>>130164307
Yeah

>>130164205
nice ID

>>130147975
kys

Just came back as guilty.

>>130164205
>>130164262

Don't worry, they'll appeal to the state supreme court, and them petition SCOTUS if that doesn't work out, and end the end she'll do like 2 years.

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HAHA
Never waive your right to a jury.

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>>130164334
nope.

actually, YOU can fuck off and kys right now ya fucking faggot.

>Stunning decision

Wtf fox lol

>>130164337
Good. Evil fucking bitch. Sentence; stoned to death.

wew
>bully a tranny online
>he kills himself
>involuntary manslaughter
This is not good.

>>130164307
What did I just fucking say?

She's going to get an easy sentence though.

>>130164263
Lmao just turn off your computer haha

>>130164348
Freeze punk! You're under arrest!

>>130163705

Yup, the only cases that the judge cited during the court analysis were two Massachusetts based cases. Looks like it was a difficult choice.

Regardless, I retract my previous statement in the OP. I was not aware of the full details of the case. I did not know she was on the phone with him at the time...literally listening to the coughing and him dying. That's fucked

>>130164415
Nope, free speech will be hit here.
With precendence, they can consider anything they want here to as "bullying" that leads to suicide.

FOUND GUILTY

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>>130164348
>>130164401

You can look at her and tell she still doesn't think she did anything wrong.

>>130164443
>shooting someone with a gun who dies is murder
>lmao just put on your SWAT gear

this is how puerile and ignorant you sound. fuck off you uneducated, gas huffing retard.

No internet, no leaving Massachusetts.
Guys, we're looking at a crack whore in the making.

>>130164562
women are natural sociopaths

>>130164439
You couldve fucking replied to me, you just put it out there you prick.

Keep me posted on the sentence.

>>130164261
Kys
Just kidding I don't want to go to jail. But really,kys

Its most definitely illegal to bully someone to commit suicide lmao

>>130164545
>no hilarious tabs

ya blew it.

>>130147975
hmmm... she have fetal alcohol syndrome?

>>130164205
>guys gf telling him and goading him into killing himself is a dark day for free speech
Fuck this cunt,she 100% deserves this

Guilty. Woah.

>>130164205
fuck off gawker

>>130149906
>8
Are you even serious? Please don't be

she's gonna make a nice pretty little jail bitch

she better start stretching her asshole now so it's easier

>>130147975
Guilty... of being beautiful. OMG I think I'm in love

>>130164625

It's going to be like a month before the sentencing hearing. The Jew judge wants to get back to his bagels.

This is an infringement on freedom of expression, prove me wrong.

>>130164522
She literally told him to get back in the truck and finishing killing himself, and he did it.

Telling someone to kill themselves online isn't the same thing. They went through it live if you watched it.

>>130151291
>>130151341
>uglier version of cara
cara is fucking ugly, the only reason she has any popularity is because she looks like a barely passing trap

>>130164663
In a regular situation, yes. In this case, the dude was a weak faggot who made multiple suicide attempts and would get her attention through them.

Sort of like how the "cutting" whores do it for the attention.

She got involuntary manslaughter.

>Attention whore standing on a ledge
>Holding up traffic for hours on end
>"JUMP ALREADY FAGGOT"
>Arrested for attempted murder

>>130164522
I disagree. This bitch talked him into it for months and demanded he get back in the truck. Big difference to saying "kill yourself faggot"

>>130164618
>stuck in MA
She will be an addict on the street in 1 year after her sentence

>>130164522
THERE WAS ALREADY PRECEDENCE FOR THIS IT'S NOT A FREE SPEECH MATTER RETARD

>>130164614
>words you voluntarily listen to can kill

>NE accents

is there anything worse?

>>130147975
>I am confident she will be found not guilty.
that didn't go well

>>130151291
>dat nigger nose

She isn't attractive at all.

>>130164825
>did it for the attention
>actually did it
Pick one

One thing to say "kill yourself", not very polite but not really illegal.
It's another to know somebody is trying to actually kill themselves, and is texting you after they stopped, and then you pretty much tell them "finish what you started". Especially after trying to help him in the past.
I don't think she had a duty to stop him, but she did something stupid and did it in a traceable way. Being a dumbass is a crime in its own right and she's paying for it.

>>130151291
Half of girls in the UK are trying to look like Kara and when I visited 3 months ago I was paralyzed by my disgust. Women were looking hideous. And UK girls are not pretty for the most part either way

the host on fox is trying to prove how she didn't help him.

Fox is fucking dead

>>130164765
Ill give you my home number. Give me a bell when hes done eating bagels and sucking baby cocks.

>>130151291

She is fucking ugly.

>>130164846
No, she didn't convince him for months, he had been making attempts for years.

>>130164990
He took pills, tried drowning himself (from what I could here) and a few others. She showed up and provided moral support for a while, and he took advantage of it. Eventually, when he did it again, she told him to actually kill himself.


>>130164869
This. I don't like her, but what I hate even more is seeing someone who could live a normal life be turned into an animal, let loose on the streets.

>>130156381
She is ugly man

he didn't agree to revoke bail, and he was very firm about saying the presentencing investigation is to remain private, so I'd be surprised if she gets time beyond a short sentence and lengthy period of probation.

>>130158342
Reporting on nigs nogging out is like reporting that water is wet. Plus muh narrative.

>>130164522
That would really suck. Imagine all the trans that kill themselves over being psychotic, they would pin it on the last normal person that tried to shake them out of it and tell them it's a delusional fetish.

I am ok with Hitler and I'd still rather see Trans return to a normal life than die. Many of them just need real help instead of being encouraged to go deeper into mental illness. A lot of them never had partners so they aren't even gay, just really fucked up. What's happening to them is sad but soon it will be dangerous to even try to help them.

>>130164825
Its all a matter of the timing though.

I saw a story one time where a girl was walking her boyfriend through the steps to commit suicide via text and he did it. That girls gonna go away for a long time, had she told him to kill himself like months before, maybe she would be okay. But idk

>>130164767
Freedom of expression is not being free of consequences. She was allowed to say whatever she wanted to whoever she wanted, how much she wanted and in every way she wanted. Her actions, falling under the freedom of expression banner had led to the death of a person. When a person dies, the law will investigate. She is not charged for saying or doing what she said/did, but for the consequences of those things. She does not get 20 years for saying KYS but for the fact that the KYS message killed a person. The message was the weapon and she was the wielder. May she rot in Hell.

>>130148398
Because our justice system is horribly biased in favor of women.

>>130165172
And she had been texting him for months trying to convinve him to do it.

Again, theres a difference between telling someone that they should kill themself and actively encouraging the act.

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>>130164879
>lethal poison placed by someone else into a drink you voluntarily is not an attempt to kill them

give it a rest, misprinted russia retard. go play with the village fuck-goat or whatever it is you 3rd world, shit stained mongrels do for fun in your useless little shit hole "country".

weakling killed himself over women
good thing his genes aren't going any further.

>>130159081
She looks like her head grew at twice the rate of her face. I guess you shitskins are into the whole birth defect look.

>>130147975

Nice try crapbag. She pressured him into doing it, and then cried layer for sympathy and pity fucks from other blokes.

I notice you left that out though.
I wonder what agenda your pushing.

>>130147975
>It's not illegal to bully someone into killing themselves

It is though. Why do Americans always talk like they're an authority on every subject, but know absolutely fuck all? Leftists do exactly the same thing, they mouth off non-stop like they know what they're talking about and we're all aware of exactly how much they know.

>>130164707
She deserves a lot of bad things including being forced into sex slavery but society doesn't deserve this terrible precedent. I don't care about this white trash slut or the gutless faggot not letting social justice take away rights is the issue

>>130164767
>>130165335
BTFO by a gypsy
does that violate the NAP?

>>130165335
kys

>>130165456
I hope she takes this to a higher court.

>>130165372
I'm not sure I'm getting across.
He had been suicidal, years before meeting her.
Then they met at a resort, and bonded because she was also going through some personal problems.
He never outgrew his personal problems, despite encouragement from his parents, her, and friends. He continued making suicide attempts like a weak little faggot.

She did something wrong by getting tired of this and convincing him to continue something he had already started.
Despite that, it's not like he was sitting down happily, and then she started assaulting him with mean texts.
He set up the car, started poisoning himself, THEN texted her. I have no respect for defective humans like that.

OP Here.

The court found her guilty.

Contrary to what I had originally thought, they did not find her guilty based on her actions - but rather her lack of actions. I did not know this at the time, but apparently they were on the phone and she was able to hear him coughing and also hear the sound of the water pump motor running. According to the judge, this incident during the chain of events resulted in her being consciously aware of what her actions are doing/have done thereby rendering a legal duty/obligation on her part to reverse them or find a way to stop them. She did not make any effort and instead let him die

So I must say, these courts are smart. That is a perfectly reasonable and logical analysis and I can see why they found her guilty. Maybe that is why I am just an autistic NEET retard that posts on /pol/ instead of a judge. This case was not as simple as saying "kill yourself faggot" and actually doing it.

Well here we go. Now we're responsible for other people's problems.
>This case
It shouldn't be illegal to be a cunt. It's his mental illness that really lead to his suicide. Now saying "kys" can actually be illegal.
>Peanut allergy case
The restaurant owner is an ignorant mudslime, but people with peanut allergies that will literally fucking kill them shouldn't even eat at restaurants ever.
>Seizure gif case
If you have epilepsy, you should be aware of the risks when looking at any screen.
Now we all have to fucking babysit people with problems.

>>130165335
kys
so now if u die does it mean im in trouble

>>130147975
She won't do any time. Sentencing has been stayed. This will be appealed and she'll do probation.

>>130165335
>>130165658
She is not to blame because he lacked the mental fortitude to ignore her.

>>130165804
>I did not know this at the time, but apparently they were on the phone and she was able to hear him coughing and also hear the sound of the water pump motor running.
From what I read earlier, I don't think she did. She just texted her friend that she did.
He had called her shortly before getting poisoned as a cry for attention.

>>130147975
She looks like an actor not actress who's name I can't remember

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>>130165905
Surely men will receive equal treatment by the court!

She's been found guilty but allowed to remain free on bail until sentencing. What kind of bullshit is that

>>130165803
Im not sure youre seeing the distinction here.

There is a difference between actively encouraging someone to kill themself and being mean.

The fact the guy was suicidal is neither here nor there.

>>130165569
>Why do Americans always talk like they're an authority on every subject
This is a domestic American case, so that's actually exactly what you're doing, faggot.

>>130165684
>>130165847
FBI OPEN THE FUCKING DOORS, WE HAVE A WARRANT FOR ARREST, YOU FAGS ARE SUSPECTED INTO BULLYING A ROMAN DESCENDANT ON 4CHINX INTO KYS.

>She will be sentenced on August 3. Her sentence could range from probation to 20 years in prison.

Probation imminent.

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>dumbass white males on /pol/ refuse to see the positive implications from a murder charge here

Males would officially be able to absolve their self of all personal responsibility by claiming a woman told him to do it

>I didn't rob the store, my girlfriend texted me for 3 days telling me to

>>130166085

Was he in suicide squad with her?

>>130165976
She lacked the mental fortitude to ignore him.
If he killed himself then that's on him, and still is ultimately his fault, but she was being retard and egged them on.
They seem like they were a good match for each other, both stupid. He's dead and she's going to prison.
Both aren't reproducing, society wins.

>>130166285
Literally british and canadian speech laws

>>130151291
Lmfao, that's the first thing I thought too. Holy shit, she is ugly.

>>130166325

What are you supposed to do when there's no evidence of the girl texting you to do it?

Literally killed a man and going to jail for being a stupid bitch!

>>130166231
>The fact the guy was suicidal is neither here nor there.
Yes it certainly matters.
It was not out of the blue, he was a faggot that "taunted" (so to speak) people who cared for him.
Most regular people would choose to ignore him, but she very likely got tired of it and wanted him to follow through to end it.

It's not like cold-blooded murder.
He wanted to die.
She got tired of it, knew this, and pushed him over the edge. He already took himself 90% of the way there.

I don't admire what she did, but it is a good thing that he died.

>>130147975
>the city of OP

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>>130166541
>when there's no evidence of the girl texting you to do it?
iphonefaketext.com

>>130147975
Nah, bitch deserves manslaughter.

Send a message to all the other psycho bitches out there.

>>130147975
Damn, I'd let her bully me into suicide tb h

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>>130166205

She needs to go back to her job as a suicide hotline receptionist.

she is a piece of trash but on the other hand I don't believe in blaming people for the actions of others
I do feel very bad for the poor sonofabitch who died in misery but we all reach that point sometimes in our lives and its up to us all to pick ourselves up and fix shit

no one forced him to kill himself...
if you tell your broke friend he should rob a bank and he actually does it are you responsible?
come on guys

>>130148213
she was finding herself
we all did it at her age bro why you gotta hate

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>>130147975

>tfw she will never be your bully gf

why even live?

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>>130147975
reminds me of the brain.

how mentally ill do you have to be to think she's good looking?

>>130149325
>yet you hide yours

Kys nigger

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>>130147975
She was simply helping to remove beta genetics from the gene pool.

>>130166951

GTFO faggot

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>>130147975
dat fucking 6 head

>>130165569

>OP expressed an opinion.
>Bitch avatar hiding: KEK AMERICANS THINK THEY R SMART N SHEIT

Yeah he knows probably jack shit. It's very likely his opinion is no more or less qualified than that of your average /pol/ user. Take it into account and assign it the value it has, don't bitch and whine about it in public like no one else has opinions.

Faggot.

>>130165804
Good job on the courts

>>130166966
No one is "hiding" their flag, stop being such a newfag.

>>130166915
>brain
>leaving text messages as evidence
Na. Just a stupid selfish bitch.

>>130149941
Yes it's worse and serious, but it's not homicide.

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>>130165819
such a euphoric post.

>>130166951
Fuck you nigger,
I'd impregante

>>130150182
>reading Luther
You should definitely kill yourself.

lol why does /pol/ care about THIS story. This board is fill with soft emotionally retarded spergs it seems.

what's wrong wth her forehead?

>>130167200
pretty sure he was referring to her massive cranium

>>130167236
Kill yourself my man

>>130167448
Nothing. It's an aircraft carrier for flys.

So does this mean if someone, say Rachel Maddow, calls for the assassination of the President or Congress and some nut from IL actually goes through with it that people like her in the media or famous individuals could be held liable? I mean words kill after all.

>>130166815
I agree with your sentiments. I was trying to think of a case where someone was successfully prosecuted with homicide based on their words and the only example I could think of was Charles Manson. His situation was more than words, though never direct action in regards to murder. I still don't see him as a murderer in the absolute sense of the word.

>>130148119
Whatever happened to "If someone told you to jump off a bridge, would you?"

>>130164817
no. cara has a career because her family is rich & connected

sorry late to the thread, any link to a transcript?

>>130165819
I'd say she went a little ways beyond just saying ”kys"

>>130164205
>>130164361
>>130165606
>>130164522

Not social justice.
Something people in this country forget about free speech:
You have the RIGHT to say whatever you like
this means that you have an OBLIGATION to face the consequences.

>>130164439
She might not because her guilty charge od involuntary manslaughter, is actually the highest charge in the state, she could be convicted of. It won't ever be expunged from her record, as she ages out of juvi. Now here's what's concerning... the judge knows, this has grabbed the attention of the nation. When cases like this come about based on legal state jurisdiction, yet its "nationalized" enough, that the court of public opinion weighs so heavy in the outcome, the judge has a few options in terms of publicly appeasing conviction and sentencing. The option he chose, was to drop the hammer by ruling on the biggest charge he legally could (whether she was a minor OR an adult) but then, he chose to sentence her as a minor. Here's where it gets interesting... that conviction gets her up to 20 years, standard. BUT, by determining she'll be sentenced as a minor, there's two ways this can go. She's absolutely old enough, that he could've justified sentencing her as an adult, on an involuntary manslaughter verdict. She'd have rode out the first years of her sentence in juvi then, the judge has flexibility to decide whether or not he'll transfer her to a state women's correctional facility at either 18 y/o, OR 21. Depending on the offense and time being sentenced and served, a judge has the option to extend the juvi stay, until the max out age of 18 or 21. So, let's say you've just turned or are almost 17 and you are convicted with a moderate offense that carries a max sentence of 5 years. If the judge knows he's probably only going to reduce your sentence to a max of 4 years, w/ eligibility for probation (no "parole" for minors) at 24 mos., then he'd sentence you as a minor and because you could end up serving the total 4 year sentence, but will probably get out on probation after 2 years, he's going to sentence you to a juvenile detention center and extend your "age out" eligibility, to 21 y/o (21 is the max ext. allowed, in every state).

>>130149906
The only 8 she has is her eighthead.

Combine with with Cara Delevigne's eyebrow parasites and she looks like a composite sketch.

>>130167650
>So does this mean if someone, say Rachel Maddow, calls for the assassination of the President or Congress

This is already illegal I believe

>>130147975
did they give her the death penalty

>>130168672
And yet, nothing is done about it.

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>>130149906
This is an 8 in the land of Oz

happening lads
http://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-announce-verdict-today-texting-suicide-case/story?id=48003147

>>130165192
I'm not a man. I'm a duck.

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>Found guilty


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That bitch is toxic, but she had to walk free - a weakling killing himself is nobodies concern.

>>130147975
Didn't she prompted her boyfriend knowingly, and he did try to do the suicide?
After he failed, she still keeps demanding him to kill himself-until he succeed?
Free speech is different to condoning a suicide

>>130169733

It is one thing to tell somebody to kill themselves, but he was in the act of killing himself..got out of the car to call her and she told him to go back in it. lol. She should be guilty of something. Not to mention she exploited his death later on social media for attention and donations.

>>130165335
Literally kill yourself. That's not how freedom of speech works

>>130165569
Any European is the last person that should have any say ITT. We have good reason to fear becoming your level of fucked.

>guilty of involuntary manslaughter

what is a likely sentence for this crime?

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>>130168967
Duck all you want, but
you can't dodge the hodge!

>>130167961
you wouldn't be found guilty for that. It would have to be constant harassment in telling someone to kill themselves.

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>>130164817
never said she looks good, only that Cara is slightly better looking than OP pic

>>130149428
>t. Smalldick beta

I can't believe we still have dipshits like this in the human race.

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>>130170117
no video games for a whole weekend

>>130168405
Alternatively, say you're a 13 year old, you murder both of your parents and then set your entire house on fire... you'll probably get max charges, convictions and sentencing, you'll serve your first 4 years of sentencing, from 13-17y/o in a max security juvi center and on your 18th b-day, you're transferred up with the big boys, to a max state facility and as an 18 y/o in state max, you're just a walking peg hole, until you've hopefully filled out by used your daily rec time, to finishing out puberty by working out. Because at some point, you'll want to defend yourself and start pegging an 18 y/o for the rest of your 20+ years until your first eligible parole hearing (this is actually exactly why they will try to keep the minors in juvi corrections, for as long as they can, cause they end up as targets if transferred. It's not worth it to the courts and state DOC's if they can justify avoiding it). Now, today, the judge slapped her w/ the heaviest ruling he could, but then, he chose to sentence her as a minor. Because he DID NOT decide to proceed w/ sentencing today, what he's probably going to do is let verdict ride out w/ the public for a little to gauge the reaction and depending on the response/backlash, he's going to decide if he ONLY sentences her and keeps her detained to a max juvi facility. If he does, then she'd be looking at a max sentence of years up to age 21, which he'll have to grant her an extension for, with probably her first probation eligibility at 19 or 20 y/o. I'm not exactly sure how old she is, but say she's 15, that would mean she's sentenced for 6 years total with first eligibility for probation at 4 or 5 years. If he really wants to throw the book (and I hope he does) he'd give her a full 6 years in juvi, then he'd sentence her to state PAROLE (because upon release, she'd NOW be an adult) for the next 14 years, which for me and my personal "public opinion", would validate his want to extend and age her out of juvi w/o...

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>>130170388

>>130170117

5 years maximum wich she won't serve, she will probably spend 2 years in jail then get probation.

Killed by texting.
BAN ASSAULT TEXTS!

>>130170695
... BUT, technically, she's still paying heavily by serving out the rest of what could've been a 20 year max sentence, on full blown parole. See what I mean? The fact that he didn't proceed to sentence her today, means that he's waiting to see what the public backlash is for the hefty charge on a minor (especially considering the state doesn't have an accessory or premeditated charge for provoking and perpetuating suicide, which ironically, is still legally a watered down murder charge, like she got, for aiding/not reporting a known suicide attempt, in advance. Because he's waiting it out, he probably thought, I'll hit her with the more controversial bigger charge to appease the public, but I'll sentence her as a minor which will give me the flexibility to extend her juvi eligibility if I need to, to 21, but then, I can walk back her sentence, play with post-juvi parole sentencing, and hopefully everyone will be happy enough that I keep my job while saving my face and won't have to deal with a shit ton of appeal attempts that drag out for the next 3-5 years. If he was going to make her an example by sentencing her w/ anything heavier than I've described as best case, he'd have done it today by hitting her w/ the heaviest charge conviction like he did, then confirmed she'd be sentenced as an adult and he'd have read her sentence, right then and there to show that he wasn't dicking around with his ruling in the bigger charge.

At the end of the day, y'all better hope that if you ever find yourselves in some nationally controversial trouble, you get a judge, just like this. Speaking of young dumb kids making really shitty choices that end up with someone dead... I can't WAIT for the rulings/sentences to be passed on those Penn State frat fucks! All carry charges as adults... hope they serve max time allowed.

>>130147975

THAT evil cranium and forehead shape. Is she a supervillain?

>>130167961
That's not a good argument...

The victim was suicidal so it's unlikely that he would react to such a question the same way as a sane person would.

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>>130147975
>not having some malcolm in middle-looking qt that you can play mindgames with to see who gets the other one to suicide first

why even live, lads?

If there's any justice in the world she would be found not guilty.

>>130167539
not an argument, you fedora tipping retard. lmao.

>anons defending some roastie whore
?????

/leftypol/ and reddit ITT

>>130149722
>dates crazy women, they all have suicide pacts where they chicken out
um...i think you might have been their target, brosef...why do so many crazies want you dead?

>>130168597
her 8brows you mean. those things are legit fucked

Not guilty imo. This is how it is supposed to work out. You get fucked in the ass and you either kill yourself or try to work your way out

>>130147975
>tfw anyone who tells someone to kys on here is now subject to arrest

great precedent. the girl belongs in a nut house for a year not prison

>text a boy to kill himself for like a week straight
>finally does it, pussies out, call him on phone and tell him to stop being a pussy and get back in the car
>he does and is killed dead
>brag about it to 2 people who don't even know I exist

She's probably not going to get sentenced, but damn, gl finding a job or anyone who will even talk to you that isn't some dumb nigger that doesn't read the news.

How did this lad off himself?

>>130170515
Le greasy angry commie youtuber

>>130178633
Sat in his truck with one end of a hose attached to the muffler and the other end in his cab. Tried bitching out, but the girl called him and told him to get back in, and he did, then he ded.

>>130164522
>not knowing the case law
>being knowledgeable on the subject matter

gonna need to pick one, m8

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>>130164371
Wait she waived her right to a jury. I would sue my lawyer. Didn't she realize that she would have better chances with 12 ignoramuses who just want to go home?

>>130178858
wew lad, RIP in peace

>>130148119
>>130147975
Told you faggot, OP.
GUILTY.

>>130178246
She's liable.

https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.08.020

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>>130149999
liking those numbers boyo

>>130180740
Idk if it happened in Washington though, although most states do have similar laws like that, just worded differently.

>>130178246
Don't underestimate beta thirst, she will find a poor orbiter whose fully convinced that she's sorry about it.

>>130147975
kick rocks guilty bitch...
One less soulless bitch on the street. Billion to go.
BYE.

>>130181876
Nothing of value was lost

>>130147975
>Obviously it's a despicable act and this girl is mentally ill herself, but the precedent set by such a thing is too slippery of a slope and can and will be cited to defend a myriad of other cases in the future.
Yeah, that's basically my approach as well. She's clearly the lowest form of scum and deserves to be raped with a broken glass bottle in all her orifices, but making an online message along the lines of "kill yourself" a crime would be just insane.

>>130179789
>RIP in peace
>rest in peace in peace
only an australian

>>130147975
I hate women as much as the next guy, but the responsibility of suicide should fall on the person who did it - and they're dead, so no fault.

I don't care how much an external action is what influenced you to act upon yourself, a text is not a knife. While I'm sure this chick was a cunt, this whole anti bullying thing and the fact that you, /pol/ are supporting it, is a disgrace to the values we should be trying to plant in society.

We should create less mentally unstable people who even consider self inflicted harm, death, or sex changes, we should have a society that shuns the idea of being so easily influenced or weak willed, even in a vulnerable state, that you kill yourself.

While it is sad that people off themselves it's also sad that we take the same logic that applies to debt in death to the law regarding suicide.

>>130182829
She knew he was in the car trying to kill him self and did not contact the police or his family. She's guilty.

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>>130147975

Did she bully him cause she just wanted him dead and was pure evil?

Or because she thought it would end his misery/depression/etc.. ?

>>130183199
I don't accept that "guilt by nonadmission or inaction" bullshit

I believe in a situation like that you let him or his family contact the police. They weren't married, she sent him some fucked up stuff, and apparently abused social media for donations, but when do we get to the point where we're smart enough to realize suicide rests on the person who suicided

Guilty of texting boyfriend he'd be better off dead...this is bulllshit she we win in appeal

>>130183272
I remember reading somewhere about her wanting attention from it? One of her classmates, a girl she barely talked to, testified and said that the cunt texted her about how she told him to get back in the truck and shit like that.

>>130183272
Her defense was that she was "calling his bluff" but if you read the texts it's pretty clear this was her way of causing death. Sick bitch was working her way up to full scale murder, I guarantee it.

>>130147975
It was only a prank bro

>>130183403
I'm not saying she murdered him but her conduct resulted in a death. Manslaughter is appropriate here. She could have told him to kill him self 100 times a day and told him exactly how to do it and not be guilty of anything. The fact that she stayed on the phone with him and took no action is the crime. And yes, I agree he is responsible for his own suicide attempt but she was complicit in not attempting to render aid.

she's a sick bitch, egging him on and telling him to get back in the death chamber is shocking behaviour. I know today's women are fucked, but that's way beyond.

To think she'll be free in a couple of years is depressing, she's some kind of sadist.

>>130183272
shame about the skin condition
actually cute otherwise, for an african

This sets a disturbing legal precedent. I expected to see a lot more anger from you all.

>>130166815
>if you tell your broke friend he should rob a bank and he actually does it are you responsible?
No, but if you sit down with them and plan how they're going to break in, research how it's done and give them tools to do it, then yes you are partly responsible.

>>130147975
Why are you defending this trap, OP?

not sure about prison though, that's mental hospital shit imo

>>130147975
>anon asserts a position over something he clearly doesn't understand and gets BTFO

>>130185000
this. a few years in a padded room would do her some good.

>>130183272
I think it had nothing with the actual act of him dying but her own personal ego stroking to see what she is actually capable of doing to another person with just her words.

It's legit pure fucking narcissistic evil.

>>130185117
plus women's prisons are a joke, they just lez off and do each others hair and make up all day.

It's literally a holiday camp, the only punishment is being away from their kids, the rest is a cake walk.

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What's she thinking?

>>130148091
I agree. She’s guilty but because of her youth, they believe she can be rehabilitated. Prison will be tough, though. All that black pussy she’ll have to eat . ..

>>130184143
>She could have told him to kill him self 100 times a day and told him exactly how to do it and not be guilty of anything. The fact that she stayed on the phone with him and took no action is the crime.

I'll agree with everything you said here except the "took no action" part. I mean, she clearly wasn't going to have a YuGiOh style change of heart and turn around and call his mom or a cop, so I don't know how much this even applies or needs to be applied to her case

What a pathetic whore.

>>130185505
She wanted to make sure she didn't miss the exact second all the life drained from that cunt's eyes.

she looks like cara delevingne if she had fetal alcohol syndrome

>>130147975
so basically she was Dr.Kevorkian light

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>>130185505
>>130185690
That's a vengeance type of look.

>>130148235
this
just look at her dead eyes, she gives no fucks about what she did

as for the rest of the edgy kids in this thread, kys

>>130178246
You forgot
>feign ignorance afterwards and milk sympathy on social media

>>130185669
I'd say it's like watching someone drown (for example) then walking away and not reporting it. Which is a crime as far as I know. Her intent was likely a factor as well. Which is why she got charged with man slaughter and not failure to render aid. All that being said she's being charged as a minor so she'll get off easy.

>>130182423
Newfag

>>130167053
Wanna help out next?

Kill yourself fagots;)

>>130165606

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequences.

>>130187160
>it's like watching someone drown
Nah, that's involuntary, suicide is voluntary regardless of outside influence

>then walking away and not reporting it
Not that I WANT random drowning person to die, but what about getting involved in all the legal nonsense. It's not going to be "Hey officer, saw this guy drowning and thought I'd call, ok bye" when they show up, or that you can call and then leave. They're going to impose on you with questions and inconvenience you

>>130148119
>Rightfully so

Literally go kys

>>130168361
>>130187973
In response to the first guy in particular, freedom of speech as a "right" vs "privilege" is all semantics, and legal semantics at that. The truth is no matter what country you're born in and how you're raised the second you learn to form sentences, you absolutely CAN and SHOULD say (and maybe even do) whatever you want. The only reason we learn to avoid saying things is because of social consequences (like walking into harlem and shouting NIGGER). But, that doesn't mean that people's words are equivalent to the actions that would lead to consequences (and before you argue that speaking is an act, which is deadlier, saying I hate you I'm going to kill you or swinging a hammer at the back of someone's head?)

this is about the precedent, the principle. i bet this chick was a cunt regardless of what people think about the case because statistically women are going to be these days.

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>>130185633
>All that black pussy she’ll have to eat

This is my firmest erection all day.

Seems like the difference point is that the fact that she knew that he was in the process of killing himself and encouraged him to continue doing so.
But if she did not know, nor encouraged him, yet he still killed himself..would it still be strong enough to say that she was liable?

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>>130188113
>they're going to impose on you with questions and inconvenience you
Well, you're not wrong. Anyways here's a transcript of their conversations.

>>130147975
>It's not illegal to bully someone into killing themselves and more importantly it shouldn't be.
bullshit to call this bullying. People in a relationship should help each other, and more importantly people in relationships seek help from their partner, expecting help from their partner which is in the idea of a partnership. He was hanging on a cliff and she stood on the edge of this cliff and made every attempt from him to safe himself futile.
>the liberals
So you are a conservative but don't value a meaningful bf/gf relationship? Kys.

>>130147975
As much as this bitch deserves it, I really don't like the precedent being set here. It's going to have a chilling effect on free speech.

>>130189102
Blurry pic

>>130189028
The most damning thing about this is the length of time in which she continued to try and make him kill himself and most importantly when he got out of truck and said he didn't want to do it she told him to get back in the truck and get it over with.

This will have zero repercussions for the first amendment. This bitch deserves to be locked away from society forever as she is a sociopath

>>130147975
by your logic op, women who convince idiots to kill others for them shouldn't be prosecuted either.

>>130189728
I disagree. She "watched" him die after egging him on then did not report it. Apparently there is president for this already. Your free speech is safe. We can all continue encouraging each others suicides with peace of mind. kys

>>130147975
Bitch should have been lynched, not convicted of involuntary manslaughter. Now even if you ironically tell an anonymous person to kill yourself, you can be charged with the same crime. All of you are fucking idiots being governed by your emotions instead of following cold hard logic.

>>130189728
wot.

>>130190248
This is why I ask about it. It seems people forgetting about the part when she encouraged him to get back in. I think she's definitely liable here since she already made a wrong decision.
But if this scene never happens (ergo, only texts) will this still counts as liable?
Since so many people here defending her 'right of speech' and his 'choices' not to kill himself.

>>130189028
>But if she did not know, nor encouraged him, yet he still killed himself..would it still be strong enough to say that she was liable?
No, she would not be held liable for that.

>>130190248
this

anyone trying to spin this as some kind of fight against free speech is a fucking moron.

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>>130190491

ghost yourself leaf
i agree with you
its in the details, she coerced him over time and was actively involved.
I'm just telling you to ghost yourself randomly thats different.

>>130190248
She didn't make him do anything. He made his own choices without the girl laying a finger on him. The girl is an absolute succubus who deserves to rot in hell and get lynched by her neighbors, but I can't imagine any positive legal outcome from this. What sets the standard for "making" somebody kill themselves? All I can see is the supposed cutoff being eroded over time until saying anything edgy or provocative becomes a legal liability in case you're talking to a nutcase.

>>130191159
Well in this case she 'witnessed' him gassing himself
She encouraged him to continuing the process, instead of helping him
Is this justifiable under the speech rights?

/pol/ is incredibly retarded and hypocritical. This is a clear case of a ruling against free speech.