BREAKING FEDS RAISE RATES AND DUMPS BONDS ALONG WITH 4.5 TRILLION

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>SOON

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>>130117429
what kinda jewery we looking at?

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>>130118022
pretty damn bad jewery if im correct this is the 4th rate hike this year

i never understand this shit, please explain

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Happening

>>130118022
Fed continues to hike rates after propping king negro up for 8 years

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>>130117429
OY VEY

>>130117429
I hope so, time for the bull market to crash so I can finally invest

>>130118103
>fed raises rates while we are shitting ourselves over bubble and chinese bubble
>we pop and china pops harder then before
>everyone dies possibly war on the way if we are super desperate

Thanks for granting my people power.

Trump is on you :)

>>130118103
Increase in interest rates = less loans = less spending = less economic growth

>>130118172
a guy can dream cant he?

>>130118084
lol what? the rate hikes are long overdue

>>130118103
this is why jews control everything because you dumb fucking goyim won't take the time to learn about the bond markets and basic shit about money

>>130118172
what bubble? housing or internet or student loans? and what is going in China?

>>130118227
this isnt true.

increased interest rates = more defaulted loans = goyim shoah

>>130118209

>Shitty Tripfag Unicode characters
>Commie flag

this is why no one takes you seriously.

>>130118227
We've had artificially low interest rates for too long though

>taking financial advice from /pol/

>>130118227
the real problem are the pension funds that rely on low interest rates to stay solvent... this is basically going to blow them all up, get ready for mad max thunderdome soon.

>>130118274
>>130118343
what a (((coincidence))) that they were kept that low for so long

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>>130117429
Yeah thats OK its time for a financial clean out.

>>130118362

>Taking financial advise in the first place.

found the fucking jew.

>>130118280

>housing bubble
Already back to normal, though when you look at California and Colorado prices you might suspect another is emerging.

>internet bubble
wat? You mean bitcoin?

>student loan bubble
its coming

>>130118280
china is a massive fucking bubble, of everything and we are on a bubble currently in student loan, auto loan, housing not really sure and oil is fucking our asses because people are signing shit to russia and china instead of us like iran and a few others along with a new chinese world bank and currency being established. So we are going toward bad times

>>130117429
i have too much cash. what do i buy? gold/silver? wait for market correction?

>>130118387
explain this in more detail please

>>130118315
You are both right dumbass.

>>130117429

Please God, let this pass for two years so the value of my mutual funds don't tank while I'm in grad school. I can't take the money out now without being fucked by the government so they can steal my money.

Two years, then the economy can go to shit all it wants.

>ameriniggers can't pay off their 150K vodoo magik studies (((degree)))
>the entire world will end up going further down the drain, again


thanks america

>>130118494
jews are going to steal your parents retirement money.

hope u enjoy living with ur parents.

>>130118463
how does one protect themselves against this? I have a job but at the end of the day I don't make much money after paying for rent, car, internet, food, etc.

>>130118571
jokes on u buddy i already live with my parents

>>130118442

Internet bubble is referring to the huge number of completely unprofitable tech companies in SV right now, eg Reddit, Twitter, Pandora, and a bunch of unknown startups like the Juicero. Venture capital flows so freely there and because Amazon was completely unprofitable for 15 years, they get floated by unreasonable amounts of venture. Also by selling data to the government.

>>130118550
If we get a world depression your mutual funds will be the least of your worries. Buy a gun

>>130117429
This is announced because our stock markets have broke records. All of them. We are now at an all-time market rise. Since we are flourishing now, its a good time to raise rates.

>>130118442
I think any housing crash will hit the inner cities Here in Australia Its Sydney city and Melbourne City that will be hit the rest of the outer suburbs not so bad.

>Popping bubbles
>Bad

Meh it has to happen or the bubble gets to big and the downfall is too much

>>130118579
if you want to be super safe buy food, water, find or buy or build a bomb shelter and when shtf get in the thing and dont come out make sure to get entertainment and other shit so you can have fun. Make sure to get alot of food and water some state walmarts dooms day food is sold but sometimes you can get it cheap online. Dont forget your generator aswell

>>130117429
Yeah, we already know. The plan is to crash the economy to protect the pedo ring from President Trump and AG Jeff Sessions.

Now stop being such a newfag. We've got slide threads to deal with.

>>130118551
>They don't offer Underwater Feminist Magic BA degrees in Tacoland

I only pity you

>>130117429
Finally.

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>>130118276
unironically this

mmm depression and recession

about time

hope everyone who made Sydney shitboxes $2m loses fuckloads of money

>>130118722
lol wut thats fucking propped up, remember 2008 we were doing so damn well and then it popped because china lost there asses and so did we. China loses we lose aswell. Look at dbk as an example 20 trillion in derivatives and its being propped up fucking hard

>>130117429
if this doesnt kill the trump loyalists I have no clue what will

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>>130118745
Don't forget your Vitamin Mineral Fusion or Bone Broth

>>130118729
afaik there isnt a big shitbond conspiracy like there was in 07, so it cant crash as hard as it did then.

Now, what is the consensus on DeutchBank? Are they still using jew magic to stop themselves from crashing?

>>130117429
The crash will coincide with a wave of protests led by (((them)))
Civil war is coming

Hopefully the crash will finally lower the housing price where I live

>>130118912
>afaik there isnt a big shitbond conspiracy like there was in 07, so it cant crash as hard as it did then.
you wouldn't even know if there was so this statement is pointless.

>>130118882

>Trump has any power what so ever over the FR.

Faggocrats will try to turn him into a modern day Herbert Hoover, it will fucking backfire.

>>130118550
With those shitty digits you are getting nothing, goy

The real question here is: what will happen to Canada
Should I stock up on opiates before shtf?!?!

>>130118912
>afaik there isnt a big shitbond conspiracy like there was in 07, so it cant crash as hard as it did then.

Income to debt ratios are higher than ever in history arent they? That means interest rates rises will spark the fire

Plus now the fed is releasing all that trillions of USD into the market the USD will inflate

Lucky for those debtors their $1m debt will only be $800k in real terms!

>>130119045
stock up on weed unironically.

>>130118362
> mfw qualified Financial Adviser

Uhm....

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>>130117429
https://youtu.be/lZX1_SYtYlU

https://youtu.be/xcG9mzbgFZ8

>>130118981
>Trump has any power what so ever over the FR.

muh drain the swamp :(
muh right wing death sqauds :(
gb2 r the donald faggot

>>130118882
Absolutely nothing will. The kikes shall be forced to make peace with Trump eventually as he been more than accommodating to their interests while not being a slave to their lies.

>>130117429
NWO whores are trying to fuck up our economy to try to turn the populace against Trump.

Rope!

>>130118103
The fake money Obama printed to prevent a crash is being removed from the economy

The interest rates are being raised which makes borrowing harder , slowing the economy

Basically the fed is crashing the plane

>>130118976
youre right im retarded

>>130117999
you think this will happen in LA?

>>130119266
>HER DAUGHTER IS LITERALLY GOYED

top kek

>>130119176

Are you fucking retarded, I just negated your stupid fucking implication that Trump has any power to stop the Reserve from doing anything.

God I swear reddit has fucked pol so hard than now normies mistake pollacks for fucking redditors. its one of the reasons why I fucking hated the 2016 election, they stole our memes and fucking flooded the board with shills and retards.

Still my point still fucking stands, read it again, just because I claim what they're going to do to Trump does not make me a supporter,

I clearly dislike both, and for the time being you're more of a bix nood judging by your comment anyways.

>>130117429
I hope you are right weird flag, I'm ready to get rich on cheap stocks.

>>130118343
Should've been decreasing the debt while they were low.

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>>130118833
>trip d u b s

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>tfw have 6 gorillion in the bank and will be able to buy the house i've been looking at for half the price

>>130119346

Lol if it still exists.

>>130118882
>actually thinks one man can control the economy
retarded shit liberal detected

>>130118463
>oil is fucking our asses because people are signing shit to russia and china instead of us
the u. s. is practically oil independent so I'm not sure what you mean

>>130119432
You can only decrease debt if you have a budget surplus

King Nigger was spending like it was a stolen credit card

>>130119476
>having money in the bank
larping faggot no way you're a kike.

>>130119408
you can change your flag click the arrow below im not a robot
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-15/jpmorgans-kolanovic-13-trillion-sp-500-options-expire-tomorrow

also look at this

>>130119303
Theres a whole lot of things to say fuck Obama about, but he has no control over printing money.

>>130118981

>Faggocrats will try to turn him into a modern day Herbert Hoover, it will fucking backfire.

You're implying that Americans are actually intelligent enough to notice FR kikery.

If they were, Herbert Hoover wouldn't have gotten landslid by FDR.

>>130119517
the saudis are knocking on your door
http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/01/investing/saudi-arabia-buys-largest-oil-refinery-port-arthur/index.html

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>>130119350
>GOYD
The term you're looking for there is JEWD you plebbit retard.

>>130119640

Conservative opinions will be the only ones that fucking matter, the democrats and their incessant spending welfare bills got us into the fucking problem in the first place.

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>>130118227
I'm not good with numbers.
But this guy/girl/it just told you a blatant lie here. It is LITERALLY the opposite of what it just said.

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>>130119476
>I have money in the bank
Should we tell him ?

>>130119746

>Conservative opinions will be the only ones that fucking matter, the democrats and their incessant spending welfare bills got us into the fucking problem in the first place.

I think you're deeply underestimating just how many people voted with their pocketbook for Trump. Unless there's a concerted effort to lay the blame at the FR (there won't be), Trump is going to become the scapegoat for them.

>>130118976
Sure there is, look into auto loans.

>>130119918
there's an auto-loan conspiracy?

how do you know?

Let it end already. Been waiting 8 years for this and we're due for a business cycle downswing.

>>130119599
>money is created by printing it

no

money is created by lending. When money is loaned out, it then exists as a debit for the borrowing party and a credit for the lender.

It's jew magic and after hundreds of years people still dont get it

>>130119168
was that a really difficult tafe course lad?

>>130118912
It will crash even harder. Like in the 30s.

>>130119803
Isn't the dollar a safe haven in a recession?

>>130117429

All part of the plan to make sure Democrats take the house & senate in 2018 so they and the establishment GOP can try and execute Trump for daring to even vocalize a threat to put an end to their mafia of influence peddling, insider trading, and extortion racketeering.

>>130120025

>implying the dollar will be a safe haven in the long term

Between all the looming pension crises over here and China and Russia cutting into our dollar-denominated oil contracts, you'd be a fool to not consider options outside of dollar investments.

>>130119476
Good job. It was a wise move to buy gold and silver but I would not store it in the bank. Still, much better than having your wealth invested in currency, because dollars are not money.

>>130119918
Well what about them nigger?

>>130120025
Is Kratom a safe haven from lethal heroin withdrawals?

>>130119862

Are you kidding me? This entire conversation is like saying WW3 won't be blamed on all current world leaders when in reality its been bubbling in the backroom for nearly Seven Decades.

This is common knowledge, even the democrats know we're already in debt. Stop being so fucking pessimistic, the evidence that Trump doing good with the economy on the very day he was inaugurated shows consumer confidence and if anyone remembers it (Which they fucking will, if they're alive and still act like they hated him) they'll definitely condemn the democrats for being welfare vote farm whores.

If we even make it though the next one, if the democrats so much as even oppose bi partisan bills aimed at supporting the economy with a republican majority, their party will die

PERIOD.

>>130119173
Schiff's entire family are (((race))) trators. He'll die in jail for this kind of talk, just like daddy.

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Are Jew vampires going to steal all of my bank account money

>>130120280
you could withdraw it or turn it into gold

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>/pol/ not understanding rate hikes and bonds

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>>130118442
*perk* who said Student Loan Bubble????? When

Let me start you little kids on a quick rabbit hole you can learn about on your own...
>housing bubble
Get ready for the retail bubble, kids. Have a look around your town lately? Awful lot of empty stores, ain't there? Get ready. tick tock.
>internet bubble
"Silicon Valley" is the biggest house of cards anyone has ever seen. It's an entire industry built on nothing. Fucking nothing but 1's and 0's. inb4 "that data is worth something to someone, man!" Listen, you can't build an entire industry based on "oh we'll give it away for free to get users and then sell it to advertisers or who gives a fuck" and not expect everything to go ass end up. It's literally every stereotype of what Wall Street banking was in the 80's but on steroids.
>china bubble
Fucked. Oh well. Nothing new. Difference is, this time, they convinced money hungry dipshits to buy in. They're gonna bring a lot of people with 'em when they tank this time. And they will. They have since the beginning of time.
>student loan bubble
It's actually sad how blatantly out in the open everyone is about this. This one will be the least surprising and probably the least damaging. There's nothing anyone can do about it. Everyone knows it. It's just the waiting game.
>pension bubble
lol. boomers are fucked. soooooooooo fucked. I mean, so is everyone else, as consequence. hard to feel bad for them considering they did it to themselves but meh, I feel bad for my mom and dad. 13 states could declare bankruptcy fucking tomorrow.
>euro bubble
See above. They did it to themselves, really.
>third world bubble
God damn it, for the last fucking time. Stop fucking. Stop. Fucking. Stop. jesus fucking christ you can barely wipe your own ass let alone feed 237 kids. Stop fucking.
>russian bubble
literally the entire russian government is russian mafia and they've been stealing every last ruble out from under their people. only a matter of time before october revolution 2.0. Hopefully, this time, they don't go full retard.

>>130119967
>get in car
>turn on radio
>"come on down and buy your brand new car! just bring $25 and proof that you have a job, and we'll approve your loan!"

What's the possible out comes for all this?

A). ?

B). ?

C). ?

>>130118647
don't forget Uber "valued" at $60 billion but loses more and more money every year, Snapchat which was supposed to be the return of the big tech IPO and which has crashed below IPO price, headed to zero, and Tesla which despite having a larger market cap than BMW can't earn a profit and their cars cost more to make than they do to produce and are only profitable because of tax credits.

There are a lot of good companies in SV, big ones and companies whose names you've never heard. But there's also a huge number of overvalued gimmicky unprofitable money burners that are only being kept alive on VC life support.

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>>130120628

A) World War 3

B) The Destruction of the Welfare State and declaration of Martial Law and Curfew.

C) The Day of the Rope for anyone who is considered 1%


all 3 possibilities could occur in the same timeline.

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>>130120471
Fucking hell!
Nothing hits home worse than an economic downturn.

>>130120628
A). literally nothing

B). trump starts ww3

C). china starts ww3

>>130120025
Usually yes, but this time the petrodollar is at serious risk from the petroyuan and petroeuro

If the US loses the petrodollar , our currency will sink like a stone

>>130120716
lol I meant Tesla cars cost more to make than they sell for. that's what I get for not proofreading before clicking stumbit

>>130120628
Domesticated housecat millennials and NEETs experience a dramatic living standards and shock to their system and Ted Kachinski unabomber runs free bare-naked into the the woods.

is there literally nothing anybody can do about this? even Congress or the Executive branch?

>>130117429
>don't raise rates at all for 8 years and keep at 0
>trump gets in and raise them 3 times in 5 months.

Still not seeing the hallmarks of disaster.

>>130120953
Meanwhile countries like Japan are going negative interest rate because of how wesk the economies are.

>>130118912
DB is - as always - still about to crash

>>130120929
No. The global economy right now is analogous to a Xanax junkie about to go into a seizure after throwing off his homeostatic balance for so long and confuses his body.

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>>130120953
Speculation: were the rates at 0 due to some Islamic reason?

Pls no bully, just curious.

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>>130120471
Iffffffffff this is NOT Chris Rock, I will eat my hat.

>>130120628
Lots of people lose their homes/cars. Families end up homeless. People lose their jobs. The government will end up having to help families find temporary housing and there will be lots of back to work programs. Most people will be working temp jobs for awhile, bouncing around. Churches will be overflowing again. Crime will go up as people will need shit. You will see 3-4 generations of family living in 1 house. In fact due to the last housing bubble bursting, we already have 2-3 generations all packed in 1 home already. Retail stores are going to go bankrupt. It will all slowly recover, but the idea of getting work, working there as a career and retiring to live comfortably at an old age will be dead completely.

All of these corporations that are draining the economy, fucking over the American people by sending factory work overseas and now trying to open borders to get $10 a day workers selling their products are going to pay, big time. Going to see many companies flail and claim bankruptcy and try to be bailed out by the government. You will see some suffer, ask for bailouts, yet the CEOs will pocket most of it anyway. Personally, this is the part that makes me happy - big corporations trying to destroy the Bill of Rights and fuck over Americans are going to get fucked.

>>130120953
Are you tired of winning yet?

>>130119972
This. For those who aren't aware, 90% of the money in circulation isn't actually physical money, it's debt. If a big enough bubble bursts or SHTF, then a bank run could happen, meaning more people try to withdraw their money than the bank actually has, and then either the government steps in or shit gets really nasty.

>>130120863
>but this time the petrodollar is at serious risk from the petroyuan and petroeuro
how? US just signed a major deal with Saudi Arabia, its not like they would begin to move away from the Petrodollar

>>130121103
I'm with this Anon, I'm still trying to make sense of it all and how this is actually bad.

>>130118119
The fucking noses. As if it weren't obvious enough.

>>130120929

No, Democrats have ignored fiscal conservatives since 1946,

Now its time to pay the price, and just like every other country, we're all connected economically. meaning the moment one goes down, we all go down.

all I can say is the following,

FUCK YOU NIXON (Took us off the gold standard)
FUCK YOU FDR (Boomer pension and SS)
FUCK YOU CLINTON (Loop holes for CEOs)
FUCK YOU WILSON (Started shit with the banks that boiled down into the great depression)

>>130120245
>>130120927
>>130121068
Forgot to take your meds Leaf?

>>130121233
>FUCK YOU WILSON
i honestly believe he is one of the worst presidents to ever take office

>>130121178
So this is about to happen?

And yes I'm a fucking sperglord when it comes to stocks and finances

I have a sneaking suspicion that the left has tapped the Federal Reserve to pull this shit now, to try to force our government to go to war with some country to re-bolster the economy, but to use it to make Trump out to be a warmongering Hitler.

>>130121274
I'm not a leaf. I am you.

seeing as this thread is comprised of people who know a lot and people who know jack shit, please help us retards out
youtube links, pdfs, book titles, anything to learn more about bubbles and the fed

>>130121381
this

>>130121233
>>130121295
>FUCK YOU WILSON
You anons reeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaally don't want to look up Edith...

>>130121219
Raising the rates stifles the stock market, but increases bank profits.

>>130118119
I don't see the problem. They seem harmless enough to me. And a Interest hike means more money in circulation, which means that they are actively thinking about the common man and helping to reduce prices. You people are not economists, what do you know?

>>130121299
It's hard to say, but the Fed has been putting this off for 8 years. So if there is a bubble to burst, it would be happening soon.

>>130121381

Look at the follow presidents economic and welfare incentives

Wilson
Nixon
FDR
Clinton
Obama
Van Buren

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>>130117429
Well the Russia narrative is dead on arrival, so may as well try to give Trump the Hoover treatment.

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>>130117429
Gosh. I absolutely adore America. I feel so blessed to be, by no fault of my own, born in the USA. At the same time, I literally own nothing. So that market going down doesn't mean shit to me. I OWN no part. But this is my home, these are my raggedy az peeps. And sheet we all feel froggy. Glad I practiced Frogger so much KEK

>>130121503
Why would raising rates help this bubble to burst?

and I appreciate those who are patient enough to answer.

>>130121557

That's what I've been saying.

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Press S to spit on grave

>>130121381
Youtube and read George Selgin.

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America's economy has been fucked since 2009. I'm surprised you managed to last this long pretending everything was fine.

>>130121614

Because the moment you start adding interest rates back into loans, banks start wanting their money back, and people can't pay with current values of the dollar being 60% less than what they were a century ago, there's no way to live with a big loan, so no cars or houses, no cars or houses means no buyers in the markets, no buyers in those markets........ literally everything else continued in domino fashion.

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>>130118276
wouldve been nice to have learned the shit in school desu

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3WhLcTs_00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3WhLcTs_00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3WhLcTs_00

>>130121673

Fucking dick, ruined America before it even reached the 20's

>>130120471
>states could declare bankruptcy fucking tomorrow.
you were doing so well too.

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>>130121136
so, everything stays the same?

>>130121614
Basically high interest rates means that banks are less willing to lend money, which slows the economy as a whole. This normally is fine if the economy is doing well, and helps curb inflation by increasing demand for dollars. If interest rates are high, you would rather have dollars to lend than spend it on shit. If interest rates are low then you might as well spend it. If the economy is being artificially propped up, then a shock like raising the interests rates in a short period could cause enough of a slowdown to trigger a chain reaction, making "the bubble burst." I'm not too knowledgeable about exactly what sort of bubble we may be in, but that's the basic principle.

>>130120471
When can we expect all this to go down?

>>130121782
non-existant money going no where when everyone wants it, right?

>>130121381
Basically, we knew it would happen eventually, and it's why Trump chose to run when he did.

>>130121918
that is impossible to predict, but odds are very high that it will be less than 5 years

I fucking knew I needed guns 8 months ago.
Hopefully this thread isn`t made 80% by zerohedge faggots predicting for the 900th time an economic collapse.

>>130121614
>rates are low loans are cheap
>loans are cheap more money is spent
>more money is spent people feel better
>people feel better because they know the money they spend will be replaced by people giving them money for things
>fed raises rates
>rates are raised loans are more expensive
>loans are more expensive less money is spent
>less money is spent people start to feel worried
>people start to feel worried because they don't know if that money they spend will be replaced as quickly because there are less people giving them money for things

>>130121918
Typically there's a delay of a few months, but there will be short term popping effects as markets seal up like a nun's cunt.

>>130117429
It's not doing great, but it's not the worst either. This could cause a recession, but probably not as bad as 2008.

It only really bad if you start raising rates during a recession like Hoover did.

>>130122010
so Trump can fix this?

>>130120471
Ding ding ding! This muhfuckah knowz!
>das rite

>>130118489
MSFT/MU/ORCL/BABA/AMZN/GOOGL if you want guaranteed long term gains

>>130118103
The central bank can manipulate the economy into a deprssion at will. They have a history of it doing it and admitted it. Jackson killed the bank. Now we need Trump to do the same.

Why don't we just ban usury so none of this shit ever happens again?

>>130121918
This year fall. Next year at the latest.

>>130122086
3 rate hikes in 5 months, i think there will be a burst during Trump's administration

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This is it isn't it!?!?

>>130122135
If anybody can, it's him.

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>>130122097
Thanks for the answers Anons. I think I understand

>>130122211
how? killing the fed?

>>130122158
>Why don't we just ban usury so none of this shit ever happens again?

Jews keep "bribing" our politicians.

>>130122296
>how? killing the fed?

Oh HELL YES!

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is there any chance the fed is punishing Americans for not towing the line in November?

>PLEAZ RESPOND!!!

I hope you goyim are ready to bail out millions of rainbow haired dykes and their cuck numale enablers! They've gotten their 6+ years of marxist reeducation, they hate you and america, and now YOU'RE going to be the ones to pay!

>>130118274
You are oblivious as to what this actually means..

>>130122375
is there anything he can do outside of that? killing the fed seems pretty fucking hard considering the people who occupy congress

>>130117429
Thanks niggers for causing the next crash you lazy ghetto assholes.

>>130120953
he's not the one that raises it it's the federal reserve. the rate is literally decided by janet yellen.

>>130122398
Would've happened either way because of globalism.

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>>130122296
This happened before.

There was a wealthy enterprising man who tried his best, and managed to deal with what he could. Eventually it all came too much and he signed power over to somebody who was willing to go further.

>>130122399
You wish. They may have the support of Evil Corp but we have the common sense of the masses.

>>130122484
but couldn't they have delayed a couple of quarters?

>>130121918
It usually happens in the fall. October. Usually on Tuesdays or Fridays.

This is deliberate. They do it in October because they count on the Christmas season to minimize the damage as much as possible. Cauterize the wound, so to speak. They don't want to lose ALL their money, of course. They can afford to let it correct itself, though.

The big ones are different. We're approaching a century without a big one. We're approaching a century without a global revolution. Last time they tried it in Russia, Germany, France, UK, and the USA. It was only fully successful in Russia. Some would argue UK, too.

Everyone gives the millenials shit but...I think...when all is said and done...they're going to be a generation that has seen some shit. From 9/11 straight on through.

Buckle up. Gonna be a wild ride.

>>130122464
>he's not the one that raises it it's the federal reserve. the rate is literally decided by janet yellen.
I know, I'm saying they raised it 3 times going on 4 in 5 months since Trump got in. In hope to stifle the economy.

>>130118209
The bull is dead.

>>130122434
right, because we should have 0% or negative interest rates forever

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>>130122373
>About that, anon...

Post your face when you realize the bible was a jewish psyop telling you not to stand against the moneylenders, even if you are GOD, or his son.

or they will trick your followers into nailing you to a fucking stick.

>>130118280
China has been on the collapse just recently. It's so bad even Apple almost 6 months ago had to calm down their investor's. I would not be surprised if China collapses really worse than we will.

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>>130117429
glad I bought bitcoin

>>130120471
My man, you did good, but you left out that $2 quadrillion derivatives bubble that is like 25 times bigger than the worlds GPD combined.

>>130121614
It essentially causes a price floor in money. Banks can't charge lower than the FFR, they won't make any money. As a a result, ALL interest rates rise (with some exceptions). Take out a fixed rate mortgage now. If anyone has an adjustable rate anything, DUMP THAT SHIT NOW.

If you are dumb enough to have your money in a bank, move it to a credit union instead. They are more likely to be George Bailey types.

Quick question

if ALL countries markets crash, will this lead to a complete restart of currency as we know it?

>>130117429
Soon the economy will collapse and the race wars will soon commence

>>130122797
there would be massive conflict on a global scale in between, but yes

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>>130122155
>Jackson killed the bank. Now we need Trump to do the same
Not gonna happen. Chump is gonna do whatever his jew masters tell him to do.

>>130122542
Not really, you can only delay it and keep the illusion going for so long.

Housing prices are at an all time high and we have twenty trillion in debt and getting worse.

>>130122745
glad I'm not entirely opposed to gay prostitution, easy money bitchez!!!!

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>>130122086
It's about time to purge and create a new society. What type? Sheeeeiiit who ever controls the nukes and black budget project R&D advance weaponry.
THE GREAT CULL WHEN!

>>130122745

Bitcoin has no fucking value when everything else crashes. There's no way to fucking spend bitcoin since you need a non crypto currency to actually have value in a market that doesn't involve cyptocurrency, which there will be no market, so tough shit, even cryptojews will feel the burn.

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>>130122745
but bitcoin dropped like 20% today.

bears have been predicting a crash for 8 years

>>130122855
>Not really, you can only delay it and keep the illusion going for so long
which is why the last one popped under W, right? Seems to me that if they could, they would have delayed it until Obama

>>130122849
Why does a crash mean all out war? I would've assumed it would be the opposite, trying to rebuild what we could in our own countries

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>>130119575
Not just the US' debt has increased, but personal debt.

Or you can simply ignore everything that is written on this thread because these are just russian bots trying to convince people into buying "muh bitcoin".
Can`t trust anyone nowadays.
And by the way, the guy who said people should stop fucking, how about you get out of your house and find a woman?
>but she need to be blonde-blue eyed in front of playboy magazine and at the same time a nun
The first world fell for the Malthusian nigger joke and are now getting outbred by muslims and niggers, while their leaders now import these people because there`s not people enough to make loans.
Seriously.
What a fucking cruel joke.

>>130123036
as communities collapse other communities will seek to take over the people and resources left behind

>>130122909
?
I`m not a revolutionary, I`ll pass.

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>>130123036
rebuild so that the same monsters can knock it down again, naw. War means that people will fear this scenario for a good hundred years

>>130122745
I do not know if you heard but Bitcoin is in deep shit right now as well. You might need to transfer to another Crypto currency soon.

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>>130123216
Like I said, it`s a /biz/ shill thread trying to bait people into their pyramid scheme...
Get a job fuckers.

>>130123112
>buying shitcoin as a hedge against a bubble bursting

Almost nobody is suggesting that. People should be buying goods with real value instead of trusting the numbers in the bank. Stock up on firearms, food, water, silver (if shit doesn't hit the fan too badly), and other useful supplies that would decrease your cost of living in the future.

>>130122797
Yes. We'll adopt a meme standard to guarantee fiscal dankness for centuries to come.

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>>130121427
YouTube some documentaries on fiat vs sound money, it's really straight forward once you get the concepts.

Basically if the Federal reserve increases interest it'll cause all kinds of fuckery in the financial world. Best strategy, imo, is get into crypto currency and gold with your savings.

If you have no savings, put $100-300 into eth/btc, as gubberment money and stimulus lose power - sound money will prevail. Also Iran is talking about using btc officially which will bypass all financial embargos on them.

This could get really weird from here.

As absurd as it sounds, the reason the us dollar is valued, is because all oil purchases must be made in USD. This obviously keeps demand for USD up because oil is what runs the world. And easy credit.

Keywords;

- what is quantitative easing?
- how do interest rates effect the economy?

Also try and figure out exactly how many USD/euros exist as of today, total amount.. it can't be figured out.

>>130122661
Jesus literally crafted a whip and chased those motherfuckers down. It's not the Bible that's wrong, it's this braindead pacifist misinterpretation, probably spread by kikes. So you're right there.

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>>130122296
That or do like Iceland did and tell the bakers sorry it ain't our debt so fuck off (it really isn't our debt) then throw the bankers in jail like they did and we're golden! Iceland recovered very quickly, Greece on the other hand didn't do that and they are still in a word of hurt.

>>130123129
But a collapse means there are no resources. Conquering another populations mass of starving and ill people's doesn't sound logical.

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You guys ready for the return of /COMFY/ market watch generals?

>>130123335
Got most of that in the farm, the problem is, the revolutionaries wannabe always try to shit with people and take governments on my end, if you`re up North it`s all fine, but here on my end...
We`re fucked, unless the military take control, which I wouldn`t complain about since they kill all commies.
>At least here and in Chile

>>130123179
Me neither, but i'll end up being a reactionary (though we'll be good for hunting meat and subsistence gardens in our rural ass area).
The big cities, porra caralho bro... they iz fucked N sheeeeiiiittt.. i hope the military takes over and start a Starship Trooper type of society. I feel sorry for Buenos Aires.

>>130122765
>but you left out that $2 quadrillion derivatives bubble that is like 25 times bigger than the worlds GPD combined.
For me that basically falls into something like the student loan bubble. Everyone knows no one is paying that money back. It's just a joke. A sad joke.

Like, I own a house I bought at the the absolute bare bottom of the market, the absolute bare fucking bottom of the market. It cost me $120,000. I was talking to this sad motherfucker the other day who was struggling to move up at his office and he has $250,000 in student loans. $250,000! That's over 2 of my houses! I HAVE A 30 YEAR MORTGAGE!

Now, tell me...I know how much money I'm making...you're telling me that motherfucker is going to pay off TWO of my houses AND buy his own???!!! How old is he gonna be and what job is he going to have to be working in order to be able to do that?

I mean, it's a joke, dude. A joke.

>>130123036
Resources will become scarce. I doubt there will be much violence from Westerners, but I'd imagine more will flood to the countries.

>>130123467
I miss Dead Man Wonderland...

>>130122373
>file no longer exists (404)
What did they mean by this?

>>130123474
I don`t know what goes on inside the military nowadays, but I hope they point the guns on the commies again, otherwise, we wuz fucked.

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>>130123399
everything that applies to bjorkland does so because of racial homogeneity and low population, two things America is not doing so hot in

>>130123474
I much rather like your flag instead of this one, Sven.

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>>130122158
For a good history lesson, research president Lincoln's GREENBACKS... oh they killed him too.... what a (((coincidence)))

>>130123542
>ends on a cliffhanger
>cancelled
I always meant to read the manga for some answers

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Can't wait to see all that exotic black budget tech we have saved up

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bumpu

>>130123714
>jeg er nei norsk og svenska, jeg er konge av landet av sorgen og dod riket
Spic in Kentucky bruh

>>130123632
There's always balkanization.

>>130118600
GOTT'EM

>>130123776
Glad I'm not the only one who misses it. I never thought about the manga

>>130117429
Just waiting for ths to pop, I've got my money sitting in the bank, waiting to buy the dip

>>130123898
That`s what I call lucky.
But I would try to freeze to death in Montana or other more "flyover" State.

>>130119996
The diploma takes 1 day, the degree is a little different, they're both meaningless here though it's all just legal shit.

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>>130122135
Any president can fix it, but it takes balls.. Kennedy and Lincoln tried, actually Lincoln succeeded with his GREENBACK dollar but then (((they))) killed him. Andrew Jackson was the only president to have succeeded in killing the bank (wasn't called the fed back then).. But there were 2 failed attempts on Jackson's life. So he had BALLS and he was lucky

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>>130123868
DELET THIS!

>>130123901
US won't be allowed to, tptb will just pick a side they like and take out the other one with predator drones

>>130124055
Like a roach, I got family in New Jersey, California, Washington, Idaho and Nebraska.
>NE Idaho is a muthafuckah in winter. Like in the film "The Thing". Polar blast.

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>>130123495
Its awful how they throw a bunch of money at kids for school loans. I got off pretty easy but to here those stories that people who try to go to nicer schools because that what they are told and ect. Its a terrible lesson to teach someone when they dont even live on thier own and think they are making a good choice for their future. But they give you all the consequences for it. It is a constant barrage of bills as soon as get out of college. Phone,rent,car insurance, on top of an entry paying job and if you worked during your schooling most of that money paid for school stuff as well as basic needs.

You make one mistake in that period of your life 18-24 and you are screwed financially. When are you supposed to save or get a second chance. Why should you be penalized when you caused no harm, Just lost some dollars.

It isnt all bad and a lot of people are successful but it starts a rat race right out the gate that people are not prepared for and some are financially sound by parents or family and get help that way but the ones who dont or cant is sad. They will spend most of their time working to get out of debt hopefully finding a job they can like or stay employed at and get paid decent and excel to just pay more bill and have no real money.

>>130124142
>US won't be allowed to
They might not be able to stop it depending on how messy it gets. A two sided civil conflict is bad but a 5 or 6 way one is essentially unwinnable for anyone involved.

>>130119011
Checked, you get nothing goy
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>>130117429

Sounds like a good time for me to get back into forex trading. If that rate hike happens, the CAD will be even worse off against the USD. At least I can protect my purchasing power, and make money in USD, so I don't have to rely on my country's shitty currency.

>>130120953

Just a coincidence goy

>>130117429
>quarter of a percent

Oy

But yeah, today was talking about how there will be another crash soon.

What are the best type of canned foods? I know all those prepper food companies, like Wise Food Company, are overpriced and half of the products are powdered milk or orange drink.

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>>130124263
I got family over there too but just by surname, they moved in the 1890s.
I doubt they even know they got peers around this God forsaken corner.
Mostly in Texas, Pennsylvania and Jew York.

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>>130117429
audit the fed

then end the fed

/goldstandard/ when?

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>>130123961
>money sitting in the bank
>money
that's not money goy, thats debt

this wont be a dip, its a global crash.

>>130122398
Naaa has nothing to do with it. This is pure theft, (((they))) would have done it no matter what.

>>130123391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUyWmmWtcFM&feature=youtu.be&t=1h3m19s
great video on it. it's long but tells you everything.

>>130123316
>shill thread
like 1 mention of bitcoin.

>>130122854
>implying the entire nation of Israel can't choose to turn on the Rothschilds--a single family.

You know not how the world works. The French beheaded their own king, despite their people having a history of excellence far superior to that of the Jew--up to that point of course.

The Jews cut foreskins from their own children. Don't imagine for one second they imagine the Rothschild family to be sacred. They will sacrifice them whenever it serves them to do so, and they shall do so more gleefully than they killed Jesus Christ himself.

>>130121381
Watch the "Money Masters" documentary by Bill Still.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVRm2OAhwsE

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>>130117999

If the US collapses, Southern California will probably become an example of an army acquiring a state. That Army being the US Marine Corps.

>Captcha: select all squares with Surfboards.

>>130124649
There`s several.

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>>130122512
>common sense of the masses
If the masses had any common sense, they would be more focused on gassing kikes instead of bombing muslims because they would know they have been lied to about 911.

>>130121381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUyWmmWtcFM&feature=youtu.be&t=1h3m19s

>>130117429
Good. Hope this country burns

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>>130117429
AUDIT IT

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>>130124328
there are couple of large outliers they would take care of right away. The sportsmen of The Great Lakes region alone are larger than most of the world's armies

>>130122464
Daily reminder (((Janet Yellen)))

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I feel like I should post this video, in case any one hasn't seen it:
Connecting the Dots (FULL) - How the Financial World Will Collapse (1991 Lecture at USC)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUyWmmWtcFM

OK OPTIONS TRADING GUY, WHAT TRADE SHOULD I DO ON WHAT STOCK??

>>130123868
>Can't wait to see all that exotic black budget tech we have saved up

What?

Poorly Photoshopped aircraft?

>>130118022
>what kinda jewery we looking at?

Ultimately another Rothschild sacrifice.
Millions of people will die so that one family can retain their power over money supply during the inevitable global hyperinflation cycle.

>>130124474
Sao paolo or curituba?

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>>130124997
will watch, unless I get distracted or bored, then I'll probly find a trap thread, but at the very least... an attempt will be made, probably

>>130125067
Mato Grosso, but family came from Germany/Russia to Rio Grande do Sul.

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>>130117429
I have a contrarian opinion and that is that they keep raising rates because the US economy is a fucking freight train right now. Its so goddamn good that it threatens the entire narrative of Trump being a terrible president.

The signs are all there, stock market isn't shooting up but its consolidating to explode to 30000, once people stop trying to profit on Bitcoins, money rushes into the markets, explodes. Better raise rates to stem this explosion.

Labor market is returning and becoming hot, millions of jobs are left unfilled, people will wake up and explode the growth.

The money in average peoples pockets is growing and Christmas will be incredible.

Rates are being raised because its needed to keep Trump Economy down. if not it would be at %10 growth right now, watch Trump shock the world when we count it up in January and GDP growth goes to 6% and people have to explain how a supposed idiot reality show star made double the growth of Obama's best year.

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>>130122656
No retard... They are raising the rates to make bonds more attractive to buyers (looking for loans) because there's nothing else they can do at this point. But raising the rates also means that sooner or later will will have no choice but to default, and the all hell breaks lose after that It'[s a catch 22 situation. That is why they have kept rates so low for so long. To keep us from defaulting. Don't be such a simpleton

>>130125200
you can just have it on in the background. a lot of good info in that video. will change how you think about money.

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>starting to get my life in order
>never knew what pre-2008 was like because I was a kid then
>starting my life, job, gf, an apartment
> economy gets JEWD

>>130125605
I have 50k in bonds already

How does this effect me?

>>130124446
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>>130124817
Fuck your stupid audit, tear it the ground and murder all banksters!

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>>130118571
Hihihihihihi!

Schlomo giveth, Schlomo taketh away.

>>130125225
Coolio, from Mexacali & Monterrey of Yaqui/Spanish/French/Lebanonese/Italian descent myself. Latez. Gonna go smoke *HerbaLife* in the woods.

>>130125010
photoshop picture of theoretical aircraft developed by the US, often mentioned in conpiracy larp. The point that seemed to go over your head was that I was implying the military industrial complex has been sitting on technology that has never been acknowledged. modern conflicts are not total war, so why lay all your cards down? "nobody" knew about the bomb until we dropped them on japan. If the world economy goes upside down and ww3 breaks out, we might finally get to see what theyve been developing for the last half century.

>>130118579
Basically my advice is to downsize and be frugal, hold onto an emergency fund at least 2k. If you and your family can not pay for your houses have some family or friends live together and share the rent or payments.

That is how all of us survived 2008 on forward

>>130125605
by keeping the rates low you're just delaying the inevitable and building a bigger bubble which will come back and bite you in the ass

>>130118809

>tfw being an ignorant third world shithole is finally paying off

u jelly, americunts?

there after me shekles!

>>130121381
Look up peter schiff

>>130118647
Amazon may have been floated for 15 years but eventually they made profit. Social media makes no profit just makes little or nothing. Goods and services are always profitable.

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>>130117429
I can't believe it. It's finally happening.

>>130125871
Tell that to Germany and Japan with their negative interest rates. At least the 10 year still yeilds over 2% a year. Granted it does not keep up with real inflation which has been running 10% a year than the 2% Fed mandate.

>>130120716
Tesla will make it's money back over the long term and have been innovating a lot more than other companies have. They have long term goals where it's a lot of money in it and it will take 10 years to see anything back from it but they are diversifying their portfolio. I would be more worried for Uber than Tesla.

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>tfw it's pointless to try and sort yourself out because you know any attempts to escape the perennial shit cycle will be met with systemic larceny perpetrated by the Jude

>>130125600
If the economy doesn't crash by December I can see this happening.
Why kinda backroom jew magic is trump doing?

>>130117429
SO MANY SLIDE THREADS TONIGHT. Wonder if it has ANYTHING to do with people looking at the Fed or Pizzagate (again). BUMP

Tiny houses, solar panels(green energy), downsizing will help with this in case the collapse happens. It's because we Americans live too huge of lifestyles instead of frugality and living by your means.

>>130122623
Agreed and look at the state we are already in people literally fighting in the streets because of words imagine what it'll be like when shtf. Get tough or get run over

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>>130117429
>tfw bailed out 2 weeks ago

>>130119045
You need to stock up on at least 10,000 ibuprofin and learn to crush it and rub it into an open wound while splinting your own broken leg. Survival, leaf. It's all about survival.

>>130126659
I don't even know if this guy is a shill or just a brainlet. Have you ever read ANY of the UN's agendas?

>>130124316
Not only that but the idea is sold as "free money" loans are always owed back on money with interest. There are still people I know at 55 years old close to paying off their debt. I do not understand why trades, community college or Mooc's are not taken as a thing when they are cheaper and teach you to pay for what you can afford.

>>130125064
How to unfuck this?

>>130117999
>LA
beautiful. I want to go to MP school so I can gass faggots at the sector 5 Boston checkpoint.

>>130122661
>realize the bible was a jewish psyop telling you not to stand against the moneylenders, even if you are GOD, or his son.
Being this retarded. What happened when Jesus seen the Pharisees selling goats and not allowing people to bring their own at the Temple anon?

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Usury/

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>>130124661
If it were just the Rothschilds and only the Rothschilds, you would be correct but you're not. Go learn something newfag.

>>130126903
Nah I just came here source?

>>130125721

>I dont know I own human chattle-stock and that it makes me a slave owner.

>>130124739
BrrrraaaaaaaAaaaaAAAPPPPP

>>130123399
Those bankers were released last year anon...

(((They))) should have been lynched with piano wire.

>>130124479
The jews own all the gold, good one.

>>130126193
>muh innabation
>just a battery on wheels.
Fuck off. It's a fucking disaster, depending on "I'll be profitable later, daddy!" while stealing my tax dollars is fucking horrible. Amazon made it because there was nothing like it before and had an amazing (heh) concept. Tesla is just a virtue signaling garment that leftist brag about at parties. My landlord has a tesla and they have to do math every time before they leave
>will we make it to x town?
>maybe, we charged for 5 hrs but we are only at 65%, we might need to change there so bla bla bla. Too much bullshit

>>130125999
trips of truth- been waiting for this for a long time

>>130127343
BRRRRAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPP!!!!

>>130119967
There are also still a fuck ton of subprimes if you're an immigrant or minority. Gotta love migrant econ

https://www.fanniemae.com/singlefamily/homeready

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>>130125609
lasted about 30 mins. Eventually glazed over. I did end up reading Karl Marx's wiki page (was redirected from Weekend At Bernies) and now I think I'm a communist. I've always been pretty weak and stupid, and all I can contribute is music so I'm pretty worthless. I think we should probly share in poverty rather than have a class system. I never really liked old white dickheads to begin with

so what I took from that vid is do and be the opposite of whatever this old douche says and is

>>130122020
>2020
welp..

>>130128188
i just listened to it in the back ground. if you're leaning communist you're probably retarded anyway so no worries.

>>130126571
His son in law is Chabad Lubavich.