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No, I Don't Have To Tell You I'm Trans Before Dating You

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https://www.theodysseyonline.com/no-dont-have-to-tell-you-im-trans-before-dating-you

>In 2014, Jennifer Laude, a 26-year-old Filipina woman, was brutally murdered after having sex with a U.S. marine. The marine in question, Joseph Scott Pemberton, strangled her until she was unconscious and then proceeded to drown her in a toilet bowl.

>Understandably, this crime triggered a lot of outrage. But while some were outraged over the horrific nature of the crime, many others were outraged by a different detail in the story. That was because Jennifer Laude had done the unspeakable. She was a trans woman and had not disclosed that information before having sex with Pemberton. So in the minds of many cis people, her death was the price she paid for not disclosing her trans status. Here are some of the comments on CNN's Facebook page when the story broke.

>As a trans person, I run into this attitude all the time. I constantly hear cis people raging about how a trans person is "lying" if they don't come out to a potential partner before dating them. Pemberton himself claimed that he felt like he was "raped" because Laude did not come out to him. Even cis people that fashion themselves as "allies" tend to feel similar.

>Their argument is that they aren't not attracted to trans people, so they should have a right to know if a potential partner is trans before dating them. These people view transness as a mere physical quality that they just aren't attracted to.

>The issue with this logic is that the person in question is obviously attracted to trans people, or else they wouldn't be worried about accidentally going out with one. So these people aren't attracted to trans people because of some physical quality, they aren't attracted to trans people because they are disgusted by the very idea of transness.
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>>130113180
>Disgust towards trans people is ingrained in all of us from a very early age. The gender binary forms the basis of European societies. It establishes that there are men and there are women, and each has a specific role. For the gender binary to have power, it has to be rigid and inflexible. Thus, from the day we are born, we are taught to believe in a very static and strict form of gender. We learn that if you have a penis, you are a man, and if you have a vagina, you are a woman. Trans people are walking refutations of this concept of gender. Our very existence threatens to undermine the gender binary itself. And for that, we are constantly demonized. For example, trans people, mainly women of color, continue to be slaughtered in droves for being trans.

>The justification of transphobic oppression is often that transness is inherently disgusting. For example, the "trans panic" defense still exists to this day. This defense involves the defendant asking for a lesser sentence after killing a trans person because they contend that when they found out the victim was trans, they freaked out and couldn't control themselves. This defense is still legal in every state but California.

>And our culture constantly reinforces the notion that transness is undesirable. For example, there is the common trope in fictional media in which a male protagonist is "tricked" into sleeping with a trans woman. The character's disgust after finding out is often used as a punchline.
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>>130113246
>Thus, not being attracted to trans people is deeply transphobic. The entire notion that someone isn't attracted to a group of very physically diverse group of people because they are trans is built on fear and disgust of trans people. None of this means it is transphobic to not be attracted to individual trans people. Nor is it transphobic to not be attracted to specific genitals. But it is transphobic to claim to not be attracted to all trans, people. For example, there is a difference between saying you won't go out with someone for having a penis and saying you won't go out with someone because they're trans.

>So when a cis person argues that a trans person has an obligation to come out to someone before dating them, they are saying trans people have an obligation to accommodate their transphobia. Plus, claiming that trans people are obligated to come out reinforces the idea that not being attracted to trans people is reasonable. But as I've pointed out, not being attracted to trans people supports the idea that transness is disgusting which is the basis for transphobic oppression.

>The one scenario in which I would say a trans person should disclose their trans status is if they are going to have sex with someone and are unsure if their partner is attracted to whatever genitals they may have. In that case, I think it's courteous for a trans person to come out to avoid any awkwardness during sex. But even then, a trans person isn't "lying" if they don't come out and their partner is certainly not being "raped."

>It is easy to look at the story of Jennifer Laude and claim that her death was due to the actions of one bigot. But it's more complicated than that. Pemberton was the product of a society that told him that disgust towards trans people was reasonable and natural. So when he found out that he accidentally slept with a trans woman, he killed her.
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>>130113305
>Every single cis person that says that trans people have to come out because they aren't attracted to trans people feeds into the system that caused Jennifer Laude's death. And until those cis people acknowledge their complicity in that system, there will only be more like Jennifer Laude.
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>>130113180
someone with HIV doesn't have to tell you they have HIV

a 12 year old doesn't have to tell you they're 12

a married person doesn't have to tell you they're married
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The article subheader is

>Demanding trans people come out to potential partners is transphobic.

Let's play a game: "Demanding X come out to potential partners is Xphobic."
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>>130113246
>Disgust towards trans people is ingrained in all of us from a very early age.


>Age 0, in fact
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>>130113180
If I'm going to have sex with someone I'm expecting to fuck a vagina, not be stimulating someone else's dick
I am not sexually attracted to penises
I do not want to see a penis
It has nothing to do with your snowflake status
I came to fuck a vagina, not a penis
Fuck off
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I want them all to die
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>>130113430
Well then there shouldn't be any complaint once bodies start to drop
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>>130113180
This is why they always kill themselves eventually.

They lie to themselves so hard they for other to not see the truth. Then when they start hitting their late 30-40's their body starts to turn on them. And they realize they fucked up their chances for passion, true love, trust and good health.
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>>130113473
Demanding fugitives come out to potential partners is criminal
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>>130113180
obviously murder is above and beyond a proper response, but the delusion of someone dressing up and passing themself off as something, changing into something they are not then expecting everyone else to accept their story? really, be serious trans people. perhaps you'd like to be safe in knowing the person you are dating isn't 'transphobic' before you fuck them. it's a win-win to share the info
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whatever just fuck her/him/it in the ass like averyone else

whats the big deal??
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>>130113430
If someone has HIV and has sex with you they do have to tell you or take the proper steps to prevent spreading the disease or else it's considered knowingly spreading infectious disease.
Being married and having an affair can result in loss of assets.
Finally, a 12 year old is not considered a responsible adult. Therefore, it's not their responsibility to tell you anything other than to fuck off. It's your responsibility to not be a pedo faggot.
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>>130113180

i wonder what would they do if we do the same to them

>dress normally
>find a qt lesbian and act lesbian
>she thinks im just a tomboy who crossdress
>gain her trust
>and in the moment of truth reveal my dick to her
>"No, I Don't Have To Tell You I'm straight Before Dating You"
>mfw
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>>130113180
>choke a tranny for not being girly
>drop him in a toilet and drown him with a swirly
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he didnt actually strangle her either

she chocked on his cock

besides aren't we assuming the gender of the poor marine
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>>130114015
it was sarcasm (as in legally or at least in terms of free will they don't have to tell you in most cases but they damned well better tell you, get it?)
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>>130113180
Maybe not, but if you try to trap me I will punch you in the dick, you damn dirty degenerate.
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>>130113180
i'd tap it if they look 100% female lbut i'm not taking any dick from you
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>>130114133
Is it sad that lefty/pol/ and the SJWs believe that shit though? I would have never known it was sarcasm unless you said something.
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>>130114196
no ones gonna know
why not just try it
so what you sucked a cock
its just a piece of flesh
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>>130113180
D-did he fuck her dick?
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Retards like OP are the reason why islam is a thing. OP is a terrorist.
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>>130113430
a person with a gun in place of a penis with a vaginal fluid sensor at the tip that sets off the trigger at the appropriate level of vaginal fluid density doesnt have to tell you that they have a gun in place of a penis with a vaginal fluid sensor at the tip that sets off the trigger at the appropriate level of vaginal fluid density
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>>130113555
i like you
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>>130114492
op of the article that is, unless op actually believes this.
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>>130113180
Isn't there a movement to classify lying to a woman to get into her panties? For example pretending to be wealthy when he's not? Those mental gymnastics that people can do are amazing.
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The same outrage is experienced when gays pass themselves off as straight and marry a victim
The gay gets to become a parent using the victim's body to achieve that
The gay gets his workmates, family and parents off his back about not being married
By marrying a victim, the gay 'proves' he's not gay
The gay very often gives the victim (and children) STDs
The gay deserts his victim wife and victim children and returns to gaydom
Such calculated deception and destruction of the victim's life, opportunities, career, normal family life etc
Deserves death or life in prison
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>>130113324
>And until those cis people acknowledge their complicity in that system, there will only be more like Jennifer Laude.

Yeah, what's the problem? More dead brainlets
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>not realizing she's a dude within a short encounter
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>>130113430
What about a married 12 yo aids kid?
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>>130113180

it's akin to rape, you rape a marine and expect nothing? lol hang em high .. this man should be freed when the war begins

100% justified killing
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Traps are gay
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>>130113180
trannies know they're playing with fire when they attempt this

the response is not out of the ordinary and nobody feels sorry when they get burned
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>>130114829
This. What a typical jarhead inbred.
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>>130113180
Will somebody please drown this piece of shit in a toilet?
>Thus, not being attracted to trans people is deeply transphobic.
Is that supposed to shame us into having sex with trannies?
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No, I don't have to tell you that I drown trannies before dating you.

Their argument is that they aren't not attracted to people who drown trans people, so they should have a right to know if a potential partner is going to drown them before dating them.
The issue with this logic is that the tranny in question is obviously attracted to people who drown trans people, or else they wouldn't be worried about accidentally going out with one.
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wouldn't you notice the dick?
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>>130113180
I'm just fine with dead trannies!
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>>130113180
> Twin brother comes around when brother isn't home, proceeds to sleep with his wife pretending to be his brother.
> "she was attracted to me and it was consensual."
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>>130113726
no
demanding fugitives come out to partners is fugitivephobic
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>>130114675
used to be law against this, called it seduction
>>130113180
Screechy feminazis always say "informed consent" or it's rape.
If you don't INFORM your partner you're trans you're a rapist.
Hypocrisy as usual.
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>>130115198
best argument itt
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You can lie to yourself, but you can't lie to others.
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>be drunk
>tranny seduces you because you're belligerent
>Go to his place
>Make out
>He sucks you off
>You finally take each others pants off
>He reveals his cock
>You reach for the door but he beats you to it
>"Denying me sex because of my transness is a crime you know"
>You know he's correct, you'll face a decade in prison if you don't fuck him
>Close your eyes and do it
How long til this is reality?
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>>130113180

from the comments:

> ... I'm sorry for the woman. I don't believe anyone deserves death unless they're threatening another's life of physical well being.

>However, if not having an attraction to a trans person is transphobic then not having an attraction to your own sex is homophobic. Of course, that also means, being a lesbian is Heterophobia.

>What you're saying is you're an awful person who is using an awful tragedy, along with other awful people, to make an awful point.

>You're just awful.
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>>130113305
A woman not being attracted to men is deeply heterophobic. The entire notion that someone isn't attracted to a group of very physically diverse group of people because they have a penis is built on fear and disgust of hetero people. None of this means it is heterophobic to not be attracted to individual men, but it is deeply heterophobic to claim none can be attractive to you.
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>>130113180
i cannot think of one good reason not to genocide trans people

sitting here playing devil's advocate with myself, not one fucking reason not to lampshade them
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>>130113246
>tries to blame Europeans (whites) for the "learned" transphobia

They always use whitey as a scapegoat
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>>130115972
>heterophobia
sums up the whole lgbtyecgaa thing
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>>130113180
>No, I Don't Have To Tell You I'm Trans Before Dating You
Then don't be surprised when you get punched in the front butt or worse. I know many people that would instantly beat the piss out of you for something like that, so.....take the hint from your own post, if you dont wanna be fucking murdered, have a brain, and some respect faggot.
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>>130114133
>>130114015

Not in California. You can donate HIV-riddled blood here without saying anything thanks to Jerry Brown.
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>>130113180
How could he possibly not know that the tranny was a tranny? He must've been drunk as all Hell.
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Murder is not justified, neither is assault

But isn't it true that feminists constantly claim that sex undertaken under certain conditions which then turn out to be falsified therefore nullify the consent and make it rape? For instance if a man lies about his identity, job, etc?

If you consent to sex under certain conditions which are build on lies does that not indicate rape?
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>>130114728
I agree, this is absolute haram and should be punished with death.
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>>130116434

If there was alcohol involved then the Marine was raped.
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Disgusting freaks
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>>130113473
Demanding kikes come out to potential borrowers is shekelphobic... Interest Ratecist.
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>>130113180
IS SEX UNDER FALSE PRETENSES RAPE?
YES! YES IT IS!
That doesn't justify homicide, but he was, indeed, raped.
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>>130113180
>what makes a person at tractive?
>what kind of social status does a travestie usually enjoy?

It's like women not dating short men, or men not dating ugly women. They lack a certain asset: social mobility.
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>>130115851
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This is exactly the same thing as that bullshit feminists were crying about called Stealthing where guys pull off their condom mid sex. Consensual sex with a biological woman is what I agreed to and if you're not a woman that's rape
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>>130116867
Jesus
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>>130116867
STOP.
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>>130115070
>>Thus, not being attracted to trans people is deeply transphobic.


I am gay, and i recently had a straight girl try to pressure me into sex. It felt very very uncomfortable.


If trannies/gays/whatever want you to "respect their sexuality", then they should to the same in return. Most straight people are not interested in trannies, dont force your shitty pre-op microdick on them.
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>>130113246
>The gender binary forms the basis of European societies.
WE
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I like to suckle on girlpenis.

It's fun when it gushes on my face.
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>>130113473
>demanding furries come out to their partners is furphobic
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>>130115851
>Close your eyes and do it
fucking strangle it?
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>>130117234
>The gender binary forms the basis of European societies.

How many societies does it NOT form?! Did ancient china or japan or egypt or the mayans have 500 genders?!
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>>130117146
The great irony is that people who ARE specifically attracted to trans people are derided as "chasers" by trans people. If you were straight and you were disgusted by every single woman who was attracted to you, opting instead to pursue exclusively lesbians... It'd be like choosing to be miserable.
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>>130113180
Gtfo tranny
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>>130114041
that would require you leaving your room though
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>>130113180
There are a lot of assumptions involved in dating and attraction; I assume my date is a good person, I may lose my attraction to them if I find out they are not. I assume they aren't a serial criminal, I would likely cease to be attracted to them if I found out they where a criminal. I assume they are honest, I would lose respect and interest if I knew they where lying to me. Similarly, I assume my date has a vagina, and is in fact a woman. If I found out they where actually a man who was pretending to be a woman and was lying to me about it...yeah, that would certainly affect my attraction, and whether or not I would beat them to death with a hotel ice bucket.


The golden rule for trans is pretty simple. You are free to play pretend with your own body, and those who choose to join you in your make believe. But you do not have the right to force others, or deceive others into partaking in your silly games.
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>>130113180
First off don't worry trannies aren't fooling anyone

Also maybe if you don't want to get strangled and drowned in a toilet you might want to tell the person you plan on dating... just a thought I don't care if you get whats is coming to you tho
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>>130114041
>find a qt lesbian
This is where your story became implausible.
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I'm not sure why an activity that maybe 1 in 200 people engage in, if that -- transgenderism -- warrants such a healthy share of public discourse.
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>>130113180
Top kek. No one is attracted to trans, the same way no one would be attracted to schizo, however.
>Schizo is on meds, acts seemingly normal
>Schizo has a rack and nice ass
>Schizo is eager to gobble to cockle
>Schizo convinces you she's relationship material
>Going well until..
>You find schizos empty med case
>Schizo tries to cut off your dick because voices
>Offended schizo didn't at least give you a heads up
>Move on to actual sane woman
Now imagine yourself as a hardened marine who takes no one's shit and has killed a few people
>Meet sexy bitch in club
>She grinds your dick until it's diamonds
>Feelsgoodman
>Fuck her till she's twitching
>Taking postcoital legend piss
>Sexy bitch tells you she had an operation
>Sexy bitch is no bitch, but infact another man
>A man just tricked you into sex with faux vagina
>How would I treat a man if he went after my trouser treasure
>Beat that faggots ass
After he chocked that faggot out he came (no pun intended) to the conclusion that this dude did more than grab his junk, he convinced him to also be a faggot by pretending to be a woman, this faggot had to die in his mind.
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>>130118259
Dude, I can guarantee you that there are people attracted to trans men and women. You name it and people fap to it.
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>>130113180
Doesn't this happen all the time though? Traps get beat up all the time.
Look, if a mentally ill guy somehow tricked me into fiddling around, I'd kick his ass
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>>130118198
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>>130113180
They don't have to tell you they're trans. Nigga if you meet a tranny, get to know them, develop a relationship to the point where you start dating them and you haven't figured out it's a dude that's on you.
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>>130114041
Only if you play one of this while you do it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnrd4MkY0Go
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>>130118259
And quite frankly he isn't wrong. It was practically rape. Because if he would have know about this guy getting his dick tucked inside him and pretending to be a woman, he would not have fucked him. The faggot was just horny and saw an easy win, and paid the ultimate price.
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>>130118366
Those are not people.
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>>130113953
just like a leaf
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>>130118517
Also plenty of guys will just go with it. I don't know why. I have a gay friend who's supposedly been with tons of married guys who would never admit to faggotry. Trannies like to take that gamble.
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>2027
>Woman strangled to death after revealing that she was not born with a penis
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>>130113180
If you are not a biological woman but in fact are a dude that cut his cock off and takes hormones, and you don't tell potential suitors before the first kiss, you deserve every single ass-beating you get. Not everyone shares your delusions.
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>>130113180
a trans having sex with someone without disclosure is literally rape in the SWJ's logic. the hypocritical shitholes can't even see that.
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>>130113180
So...lying and deceitfully attaining sex isn't rape?

How do the feminists feel about this logic?
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>>130118667
>Married guys
Married gays*
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>>130116609
Yes. The man who identifies as a man has to be completely honest or its a crime. But not to for a transexual man or woman, or CIS woman or any other protected groups. You're catching on goys. There's a lot of material here to study as the OP has shown.
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>>130113180
>The issue with this logic is that the person in question is obviously attracted to the rapist, or else they wouldn't be worried about unknowingly being raped.
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>>130113180

Feminists say all the time that sex on false pretenses is rape. So the trans raped the marine who suffered from a case of temporary insanity from just being raped. Set him free.
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>>130116867
>> /x/
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>>130113430
>I don't have to tell you I have murderous intent, before i kill you
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>>130118259
did he fug the gaping septic hole? I assumed the fag did a saucy strip tease and his dick popped out and the marine saw red. He must have been extremely drunk to mistake a tranny hole for a real vagina.
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>>130119036
No but see it doesn't work that way though. Becuase of thousands of years of oppression, a large part of this is revenge not true equality.
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>>130119154
Either really drunk, or hasn't seen many vaginas. Maybe the faggot came up with a convincing story? Idk I wasn't there, but I understand the mindset and why it happened the way it did. Or I'm completely fucking wrong. Up to you on which way you think. either way he didn't want to fuck another guy, hence the death of the faggot.
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>>130113180
Thank God I'm a permavirgin.
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>>130113619
what if benis=bagina?
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>>130119559
>really drunk
>lights are dim/off
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>>130119798
Everyone on this site needs to start studying photos and videos of good traps, because they are never as good in real life. If you are fooled after you hear their voice and see their movements, thighs, shoulder width and fake tits, you are hopeless and should KYS.
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>>130118259
>the same way no one would be attracted to schizo
are you fucking kidding dude? crazy chicks fuck like animals
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>>130115323
The joke is that it'd be a criminal offense to demand that
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>>130119798
Oh shit... That's so obvious ty anon hadn't even considered.
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>>130116609
Because it's not a lie, they are a WOMAN!

In their heads of course...
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>>130120103
I can attest to the fact that girls in mental institutions are freaks. They mostly want the docs/workers but will also go for other patients.
t. spent time in one
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>>130120103
Until they try to cut your dick off, or fight your mother for sending a text saying "XoXo luv you sweety" I'd rather keep my dick and fuck a beta female then lose it all together.
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>this was a clear case of deception on the trap's part...we need laws to protect normies from these predator's.
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>>130120343
Truly? Maybe the one I got was broken. She was gusher but probably only redeeming trait in bed.
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>>130120079
Imho blaire white does one of the best jobs at "passing" and with good lighting and photoshop can almost look female. But that's only in pictures, in video when you can hear his mutated voice the illusion crumbles. I've yet to hear a tranny with a convincing female voice.

example and relevant: HOW TRANNlES GET BEAT UP (TRICKING MEN)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wve1coCbSNw
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dead faggots are great, thanks based burgers. I hope you do this annually.
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>>130120620
She's pretty good and I'll give her the dignity of she, because I don't think she's a larper. Still a literal male, and it's obvious in many videos.
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>>130113180
Then again, who the fuck doesn't recognize trannies?
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dead tranny is a good for us. one less faggot in our society.
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>>130120584
>Get a girl who goes full ahegao when she cums
>Can get her off in five minutes with one hand
>Every other sexual act ends up being like fucking a pillow

:(
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>>130120584
I can't say they were good only that they were horny. I do think it's mostly because they were desperate for attention. A lot of them were addicts in recovery who were also either mentally ill or who had induced psychosis and suicidal feelings with drugs. 100% daddy issues.
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>>130120822
Have you ever told her, maybe delicately, that she does that? She might not realize she sucks in bed. She may have been told that men want a dead fish. I'm not joking. She might think that women who show how into they are, are freaks that men will dislike because it makes them seem whorish.
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>>130120450
>Until they try to cut your dick off
Did this actually happen? Story time!
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>>130113180
should females have to remove THEIR masks before dating...?
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>>130121094
She's my ex anyway, so it doesn't matter too much. It was just disappointing. It makes me diamonds when they lose all composure like that.
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>>130113180
being LGBT is a mental problem, these people can't even rationalize what they are, let alone discern what's reasonable and morally correct
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>>130113324
>And until those cis people acknowledge their complicity in that system, there will only be more like Jennifer Laude.

I'm ok with this...
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>>130113180
this is literally why trannies get murdered. take home drunk guy, dont tell him youre a bloke, pull yet cock out, get stomped to death. that and many are intravenous drug addicts and theres a massive venn diagram with "drug addiction, violent sexual liaisons aka street prostitution, transsexualism"
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>>130121315
If it's a good girl maybe assume she's been told that expressing her sexuality will turn a good man away. Girls really depend on guys to make them comfortable and dictate what's acceptable. If a girl loves you, she'll generally want to do anything to please you.
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>>130121407
I can do all 3 of those things actually.
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Who gives a fuck faggot ?
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how do you not realize? i assume she sucked him off and then wiped it out
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Finding out that my date isn't
>she
had been my secret fetish for years.
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>>130113180
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>>130121459
Nah, she ended up being kindof a cunt. The second I start having health problems she makes up nonsensical excuses, dumps me over the phone and has someone drop my shit off IN FRONT of my house where anyone could grab it (minus some stuff she decided weren't mine anymore). She calls me five days later because apparently pushing away the only person who gives a shit about her didn't make her situation any better. I told her that I wasn't taking her back but I was taking the 30$ or so of electronics she neglected to give back. What's hilarious is that she had worse health problems than I did, lol.
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>>130121705
My guess would be he did notice, but his dick was thinking instead of his head until he finished. I would definitely punch him if I brought a "girl" home and he turned out to have a dick. Not kill, but at least a black eye. That's attempted rape by deception.
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>>130117860
tranny strangled
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>>130116867
been about a week since something has truly shocked me, made me look around the room for a second
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>>130121801
Fuck that's cold. My sister in law divorced her husband while he was dying of cancer, then he died and she told his senpai she's give them the life insurance money, and then she didn't and spent it all partying and getting fucked up.
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>>130121987
fucking senpai - I said his family/parents
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>>130113796
>>>/reddit/
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>>130113180
Any half awake person would recognize a trans from body odour alone
Real men can tell a real woman by her body chemistry
I've never seen a tran that convinces in close quarters. Not ever
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>>130116609
The tranny raped him. Only a nu-male would not respond in force
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>>130113324
>Every single cis person that says that trans people have to come out because they aren't attracted to trans people feeds into the system that caused Jennifer Laude's death. And until those cis people acknowledge their complicity in that system, there will only be more like Jennifer Laude.
That's the idea!
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>>130120103
sure good sex but thats how they get you have fun with that anon, ive done my time with a crazy bitch witch was a drunkerd too, no fun, totally "forgot" shit she would say or do, didn't sleep sometimes she would keep me up and act a fool sometimes without the crazy makeup sex, thats when i knew id have to be careful with the opposite sex
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>>130113180
https://www.theodysseyonline.com/yes-you-absolutely-need-tell-youre-trans-before-dating

Same website.
Whats going on?
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>>130113180
I hate /pol/, trying so hard to always be edgy. That tranny was just having sex and obviously passable enough for that retard to buy into it, then she tells him that she isn't really a woman and you think murdering someone for that is justified? Oh it's because he tricked me, now I am gay, omg omg.
Fucking cunts. Hate niggers and refugees, I like it, but why do you pretend to hate this human being for merely having sex, there was nothing done wrong by them, if the guy had fun, and he obviously did, what does it matter if his vagina was a dick before.
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>>130121987
>Fuck that's cold.
Clearly nothing compared to your sister in law, but hey. At least in my story the guy ends up being better off than her, not dead of cancer... At least not yet.
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>>130122528
>The author, a transgender woman, used a terrible tragedy and terrible people, to make a terrible point: trans people can sexually assault other people because its transphobic to not want to sleep with trans people and they dont have to accommodate your transphobia by telling you theyre trans knowing damn well you may not be into sleeping with trans people.
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>>130122573
found the tranny fucker
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>>130122528
A lot of those shitty websites are like that, they post only to see how many views and stuff they get for money, they don't actually care about consistency or spreading any information at all, just reaction bait.
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>>130113180
>gain someones trust while lying to them the entire time
>finds out you have a dick
>finds out your dick is small
>rage smashes your faggy face


but who could have seen this hate crime coming?
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>>130113646
That's cruel.
Just exile them.
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>>130113180
oh my god if only you knew how many of us early transitioners actually do this on tinder on a regular basis
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>>130122724
Hmm you're probably right. The comments are a goldmine though. So much hate.
>transgenders calling bisexual guys ciswhitemales
>woman saying that actually guys thinking they can magically become women and then tell women and the rest of normal people what to think and do is the real male privilege

>transgenders calling women who dont agree with them 'angry lesbians'
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>>130113180
>The issue with this logic is that the person in question is obviously attracted to trans people
What? So if I say I'm not attracted to members of the KKK and sleep with one without knowing that they're a member of the KKK I'm actually attracted to them?
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>>130113180
You're not obligated to tell someone you're a tranny before starting a relationship with them or even just a casual encounter, in the same sense that you're not obligated to tell someone you're married or have kids or have an STD before doing the same.

... but if you don't, don't be fucking surprised when they completely lose their shit after they find out.
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>>130113430
I wish I could get me some 12 yo JC cunny.
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>>130122262
Pheromones of someone on HRT who has had their testes removed and all that will probably be different from your typical guy. They probably wear perfume, if he's a marine I bet you he smokes and if he was drunk, he probably wasn't all that perceptive at the time even if the pheromones were the same.
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>>130123512
all you have to do is look around you, Diego.
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>>130113180
Wait, didn't some guy get charged with rape for lying to a girl about how rich he was in order to fuck her? Or the another guy who was actually convicted for pretending he was jewish to hook up with a jew girl?

Class and religious discrimination?
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>>130113953
Some people aren't fags like u
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>>130114565
LMAO underrated AS FUCK
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Wouldn't this technically be a "violation" of a persons sexuality if they only wanted to date naturally born sexes?
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>>130124026
Yes
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>>130114089
Underrated
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>>130122306
>This
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>>130116768
Rape justifies homicide, you fuck. It's an instinct.
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>>130116723
>Ratecist.
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>>130122573
Trap lover confirmed, back to /b/ faggot
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Quick question: is it possible to identify a tranny woman by looking for the adam's apple?

If so, it's imperative that it's made common knowledge.
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>>130123046
The mentally ill need to be euthanized at birth.
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>>130116867
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Putting on black pants, a blue shirt, and a belt carrying a pistol, two magazines and a can of pepper spray doesn't make me a cop does it?
If you don't get arrested for impersonating a woman, I shouldn't get arrested for impersonating a cop.
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>>130124483
i'm gonna tell you this now, and you're gonna be skeptical, but i clock people based on their elbows. men have very square elbows and women don't. hrt absolutely can't fix it.

the adam's apple isn't as reliable
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>>130113180
Yeah, i am transphobic.
So what ?

If a man disguise himself so skillfully he looks like a woman, and trick me, i think it is gonna be ugly.

Point is, we want women, we want to breed. We do not want to fuck disguised sickos.
Trans are pests that need to be cured or eliminated.
That marine has my full support.
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It doesn't justify murder, but it does justify a beat down.

It's predatory sexual behavior.
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>>130123466
You are absolutely obligated, maybe not legally, unless it's for revenge. In which case go get em. Except trannies, indulging the mentally Ill is irresponsible.
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>>130124637
A cruel society does not prosper.
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>>130121222
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Lorena_Bobbitt
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Have fun with your herpes because by that logic I don't have to tell you about the STDs
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Tldr : Virgin marine got mad because he can't make the difference between a trans and a woman.
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>>130113180
You don't have to tell anyone you are trans. They already know. Only people trying to be nice to you act like they don't know.
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>>130124687
Can confirm. Nice one anon.
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>>130124730
disagree, murder is fair.
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>>130125058
if you want to spot a tranny, ask a tranny
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>>130124730
Trannies are not people, if a dog raped you, you would end that fucking dog. This faggot got what he deserved.
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>>130113180
Can you sue a woman for giving you an STD?
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>>130125133
here is the definition of murder with the focus on human being
A murder is the unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse, especially the unlawful killing of another human being with malice aforethought
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>>130124687
Elbows? Weird, but I'll keep that in mind.

Would the adam's apple check be more effective if the person in question is drinking something?
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>>130125163
>Jennifer Laude
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=jennifer+laude&id=4D8E5B0381C3B945259FEC5AE6A9073C1DD6E7E2&FORM=IQFRBA

Even with myspace angles it would take a blind person to not see that thing is a dude.
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>>130113180
Wouldn't that count as rape in some way ?
It should be easy enough to prove in court that lying about the circumstances led to a fake consent.
Nowadays the definition of rape is broad anyways.
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>>130115851
Murder time. If I live in a society where I get a decade for not banging a tranny then at least I know there will be fellow "bigots" in Prison.
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>>130124782
Tell that to Romans, or the Vikings. Maybe the Mongolians? Creulty is an excersize of ones power, ones power will bring about fear to his enemies, fear will bring complacency. The mentally ill carry genes that threaten human evolution, look at Muslims for example or liberals if you prefer. Being Detremental to ones species is a crime against nature
>Detremental
>Etremental
>Remental
>Mental
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>>130125367
P O I N T Y elbows. Chins can be shaved downs. Nose bridges are huge give aways but maybe Asians can get away with it. It's pretty hard to hid a male nose and brow ridge except with contour makeup which only looks right in photos. Look past tits and pussy and it's not hard.
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>>130125539
I don't mean cruel to foreigners.
I mean your own people. Did Romans or Vikings kill crippled people?

If it's okay to kill a defective person why not kill elderly?
Why not lazy men?
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>>130125323
If it's life threatening I think so.
>Can't confirm
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>>130125359
In this case there was justification.
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>>130125733
yes they killed defective babys at birth
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>>130125367
some chicks are high-T naturally, especially the tall ones you're already going to be suspicious of. if the adam's apple has a definite spike in the middle, it's more likely to be male. also, a small horizontal scar above it indicates a trachea shave. look for wide knuckles around the metatarsals, square elbows, protruding knees, large canine teeth.
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>>130125811
well i was going to say its not murder if they are sub-human but sure your way works just the same
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>>130113180
If I can't tell the difference, I wouldn't mind.
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>>130125823
Thats Spartans.
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>>130113180
some Amerilard needs to start a petition for this.

You HAVE TO reveal your birth/scientific gender before persuing a romantic or intimate relationship with anyone

If you don't it's sex by deception. i.e. rape

Hiding your identity and grooming people through deception is sickening behavior.

>pls pls some yank make a carefully worded petition

It's fine to call yourself anything or self-identify as anything. I don't give a fuck. But when you try force your crap on other people it's obviously wholly wrong in so many ways.
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>>130125733
Actually yes. Yes they did. Lol
Because lazy men can be reconditioned to work hard
Elderly can teach and pass wisdom
White knighting for tards and trannies.
Why are you here again?
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>>130113180
>No, I Don't Have To Tell You I'm Trans Before Dating You

Honestly, if you can fool me by looks, I don't care.
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>>130125937
KEK.
You went full retard anon.
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>>130125937
In some periods of Roman history it was traditional for a newborn to be brought to the pater familias, the family patriarch, who would then decide whether the child was to be kept and raised, or left to die by exposure.[39] The Twelve Tables of Roman law obliged him to put to death a child that was visibly deformed. there you have it also if it was ilegitimate or wrong gender or a burden
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>>130125475
>Wouldn't that count as rape in some way ?
>It should be easy enough to prove in court that lying about the circumstances led to a fake consent.
yes, you can't give consent if you've been misled. It's a definition of rape

>>130125945
>pls pls some yank make a carefully worded petition
and link to it and possibly a new thread
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>>130113180
It was rape and killing the rapist ist justified. I don't care if you don't like that, but jews were killed as well for their treacherous ways.
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>>130124687
>>130125595
Right, okay, I see now. Thanks for the tip.
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>>130125937
Yeah, and Spartans also let women own everything and made it illegal for men to have sex with women. It's the feminist utopia, with strong and retarded men competing with foreign men and themselves.
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>>130126157
i did use wiki its convenient but i already knew this infanticide used to be common around the world human sacrifice and the rest yes curelty helps you survive and weed out the weak
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honestly i wanna fuck a trap but if some bitch lied to me and didn't tell me she was one i'd hate her more for her sjwism than anything else
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>>130114836
They're fair game
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>>130126048
>>130126149
>>130126157

They apparenlty saw the errors of their ways around 300 AD. Romans lasted a thousand years.


>In some periods ofRoman historyit was traditional for a newborn to be brought to thepater familias, the familypatriarch, who would then decide whether the child was to be kept and raised, or left to die by exposure.[39]

>TheTwelve TablesofRoman lawobliged him to put to death a child that was visibly deformed. The concurrent practices ofslaveryand infanticide contributed to the "background noise" of thecrises during the Republic.[39]

>Infanticide became acapital offensein Roman law in 374AD, but offenders were rarely if ever prosecuted.[40]
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>>130113180

Sucks for Pemberton; he'll be forvever known not as a murderer but as a man that fucked a tranny.
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>>130126258
you're seeing different sides of the same bit. trust me there's a difference. look here's a picture of my tranny elbow, you see how it's different from your picture?
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/pol/ and everybody else wouldn't give a shit about trans without the schizophrenic liberals.

>small percentage of the population crossdresses
>even smaller percentage of that percent gets the operation
>nobody asks any questions, we use he/she as they prefer out of courtesy

And that's it. We never talk about them again. But here we are in the timeline of the kike. The timeline where John Lennon was murdered but Barry Manilow continued to push out albums.
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>>130119742
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>>130126638
well they did not fall because they were too cruel in fact if they were more cruel and clean out the place they might not get overrun with germanic tribes so to your point cruel empires last long until they lose the ability to do so and go away killing people for land resorces and your own to preserve the gene pool works and makes some sense
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>>130126922
man hands.
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>>130127141
this is exactly the arrangement we were good with, we wish people would stop painting targets on our backs

>>130127309
lolok
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>>130113180
IF I HAVE SEX WITH A PERSON WHO HAS AIDS, AND THAT PERSON DIDNT TELL ME THEY HAD AIDS, IT DOESNT MEAN I AM ATTRACTED TO AIDS
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>>130127516
i my country you can kill that person also they can go to jail for attempt at murder for not telling you they have AIDS
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>>130118595
no true scotsman people will fap to all sorts of god-awful bullshit

trannies are disgusting but so is someone shitting on your chest and that's not even that weird anymore
>>
I don't want to sleep with genetic dead ends. Sexual cues are often built around signs of good breeding and qualities you want your children to have. The fact that someone is trans nullifies all these things if undisclosed.

The trans-panic defence is nonsense though, murder is murder.
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>>130127628
based romania
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>>130113180
dumb frogposter
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>>130113180
The last paragraph

>the person is obviously attracted to trans people, otherwise they wouldn't say that they aren't


wut????
>>
>>130126922
Only mildly. I think in a real life situation I'll check the throat first, but I'm gonna keep looking at different pictures to get a better idea of the difference.
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Okat but if the tranny is right wing then she's BASED because Mike Enoch said so and we can't punch to the right guys
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>>130113180
You can't have kids with a tranny. Big fucking deal that I don't see people focusing on. If you date a tranny and they don't tell you they are such a creature, you have essentially wasted your time being with them because you can't reproduce with them. You can't get back lost time, so the only compensation is taking their life honestly.
>>
You'd think if they would want to disclose that information to see if their partner is in fact transphobic, especially if it was a psycho like Pemberton. You think she would have been killed if he had known before they did the deed?

I mean, what do you expect? You date, you fuck, you get married, they find out, and then drop your ass like a stone immediately? Same thing happens to people who don't admit they were married before or have kids or have disease or what have you.

Obviously he's not justified in killing her, and I get the logic that if you're attracted to them without knowing, you should still be even if you do. But realistically, but you have to understand that a straight person will feel weird about having sex with someone who was born the same sex as they were. Maybe that will change as time goes on and more people identify as trans, but the idea that we're bigoted if we don't accept a relationship with you after finding out such a major detail, goes against every argument of you're attracted to who you're attracted to.
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>>130116867
oh hey it's this pic again
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>>130114015
Autism
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If a trans faggot fucks someone that doesn't know they're trans then congratulations that faggot is a rapist.
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>>130113180
Fuck what a good cunt. Made a good example out of that trans, let he set an example so that other trans see this and know their place.

We need more people in this world like this marine, not afraid and dont take shit.
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>>130126638
Saw the "error" kek
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>>130114015
I wish, but the marxists are considering it okay to spread HIV knowingly nowadays since 'medicine can let you live a normal life'
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>>130113180
no they are disgusted by the dick you idiot.
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>>130113180
you know people are scared of sex illiness right? just here in italy there was a guy who willingly lied to women and fucked all virgins and even a pregnant woman because he wanted all of them to take the virus.for his perverse idea.
The fact that you lie about something regarding sex when you are dating somebody is bad.period.
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>>130118258
>not gay

which Little Rascal is this? he has the bright smile of a washed up child actor
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>>130127163
turn it inside out then stuff it up inside. job done.
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>>130118258
They're all over dating sites though. Way more than 1 in 200. More like 1 in 10.
>>
>article from Hunter College
>New York City
>nobody posted the rebuttal from BASED University of Alabama roll tide qt
>https://www.theodysseyonline.com/yes-you-absolutely-need-tell-youre-trans-before-dating
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>>130139214
I mean yeah the trannies should come out before things get heated but killing one because he didn't is still unjustified murder that only a US MUHRINE or nigger would do it
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>>130116361
Yeah but they test it and if it has HIV they throw it out
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>>130126922
Eat a fucking burger skeleton
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>>130118198
kek
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>>130122262
>Real men can tell a real woman by her body chemistry
That's what the orchiectomy and estrogen are for.
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>>130114565
What
>>
Stand up and be counted, go with the Ku Klux Klan.

If you hate niggers, jews, spics, arabs, faggots, commie scum as much as we do and you want to raid some tranny server once in a while, you should join the official Moon Central Discord. White people only! Introduce yourself in #introductions to get unkiked!

https://discordapp.com/invite/rDSBTgq

1, 2, 3, 4 I declare a race war!
Join us and lynch a nigger tonight!

14/88,
The Triple K Mafia

P.S Fuck Niggers
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>>130113180
>doing this dumb deceptive thing can get me killed but I don't HAVE to not do it
>So HA, take that cis scum
ok?
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>>130113180
Trannies shouldn't exist. They should have all been casterated and not turned the penis inside out.
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>>130113180
So much for cultural relativism. It's traditional for men to beat trannies after they realise they have been tricked. Double standards.
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no, I don't have to tell you I'm a cannibal before dating you
murdering trannies is easy to get away with
their families are glad their shame is dead
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>>130141783
Honeypot?
>>
>trans people get murdered for not disclosing their mental disorder
>they still refuse to do it anyways
It's like they want to die
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>>130113180
>>130113246
why would i be attracted to a walking abomination? no amount of mental gymnastics will change that fact, and nobody ingrained shit, i made my own conclusions when i first witnessed the existence of these disgusting sacks of human garbage
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>>130113180
>what do you mean you don't like trans people? I lied to you and tricked you into thinking I wasn't trans!

this is literally what this person is saying
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>>130114015
>If someone has HIV and has sex with you they do have to tell you

That's racist.
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>>130114565
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>>130115198
>>130115503

best one
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>>130113180
Rape through deception.
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>>130114334
Trans (((women))) have a gaping flesh wound with a piss tube which they pretend is a vagina. My SJW, kike sociology teacher made our entire class watch a documentary when we were 12. Pretty sure half of us turned into NatSocs because of that.
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>>130113180
Will Anzu tell people she dates she was born male?
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>>130113180
Well that's fine because 99% of the time you can tell it's just a man playing dress up. If in fact that a trans person looked so much like a female I couldn't tell until they took there pants off and a cock flopped out, I'd probably tell them well played and then leave.
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>>130113180
It deserved to die
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>>130116361
It only goes to others with HIV, retard. They're not giving that blood to people just to show how tolerant they are.
>>
>>130113180

It used to be legal here to kill homosexuals who tried to have sex with you or lied via omission about being homo's in a dress.

They changed the law in every state but one this year.
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>>130114015
You're probably atheist as well because "invisible man in the sky"
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>>130113430
You can sue people with HIV I believe if they don't tell you
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