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Why does /pol/ believe that all muslims are responsible for what a few (not real muslims) do?

What if I said all christians are terrorists because of the Crusaders?

See how your logic is flawed?

Idiots.
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I don't blame all Muslim's, but I blame Islamic teachings which are terroristic in nature.

And sure Christian can be terrorists too, just that there is not that many.
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>Why does /pol/ believe that all muslims are responsible for what a few (not real muslims) do?
We don't. We do think terrorists are definitely real Muslims though. Read the Q'ran.
>What if I said all christians are terrorists because of the Crusaders?
I would probably like Christians more were that true.
>See how your logic is flawed?
No, because this is a strawman argument.
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This is delusional. No prominent Muslim has ever apologized for any terrorist attack ever.
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Ok watch me get shit all over, but i'm a muslim londoner, and i feel like people who blame islam and 'all' muslims have never actually met one. If you personally know a normal muslim person; its impossible to have those idiotic views about how all muslims want to invade etc...
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>>130106020
Sorry, it just means that you're mentally challenged and are not invited to the Kill the Kafir meetings.
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>>130105929
i'm sorry what? why should we apologize for the actions of a few idiots? do all americans apologize for the mass genocide of native americans? Do all germans apologize for hitler and the nazis?

also for people who say that muslims don't condemn terrorist attacks:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8BjMW36CMNc4-qc9UNQku0blstZSzp5FMtkdlavqzc/edit

thats 712 google doc of cases where islamic institutions have condemned terrorist actions
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>>130105439
>>130106020
we don't. it's a a good pretext for deporting them and stopping the flow of 3rd world immigration. it's a shame the US decided to rape your countries but you have oil and weak governments so it's unlucky for you.
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>>130106501
>Do all germans apologize for hitler and the nazis?

Have you ever met a German?
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>>130105439
Might wanna read up on them 'ole crusades ma boy
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>>130106501
Based muslim anon bTFO /pol/

/pol/ loves loli, does that mean /pol/ is pedophile?
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Post proof of muslim saying it's sorry
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>>130106859
of course i have, i have visited Germany before; its a beautiful place. What's your point?
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>>130105439
Poor muzzies. They shouldn't have to take responsibility for murdering people and they shouldn't even have to apologize for it.
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>>130105824
>just shut up and die you cunts
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>>130107101
You can't reason with brainwashed morons who think it is ok to watch and see images of 2D children and think they are not pedos
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>>130106501

Hey fuck Mohammed and fuck you shitskin nigger.
No one in the world likes you.
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Most Germans were not Nazis but they tolerated it because it benifitted them same with Muslims
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>>130105439
If you have a bowl of 100 brown m&m's and you know 30 of them are poisoned, are you going to eat a handfull or throw it all away?

Muslims hold the same premise. There's too many shitty ones to trust any of them.
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>>130107233
lmao yeah, i think more than half of /pol are T supporters, so reason is out of the window anyway
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>>130105439

> Retarded baiting
We exchange the word islam by the word nazi
shall we?

not all nazis
nazisim is an ideology of peace
nazis that gassed the jews were not real nazis
most nazis never had anything to do with murdering someone
"Mein Kampf" and other nazi literature are not to be taken literally. Anyone that takes them literally is not a real nazi and thus should not be defined as one.

fuck yourself ahmed
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>>130107335
>false equivalence
If Muslims are so shitty why are they,
A)Productive
B)Condemn ISIS
C)Actually read the Quran
D)Smart
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>>130105439
>all muslims are responsible for what a few (not real muslims) do
I'm not trying to be responsible for that shit. Why are the bad muslims our problem? Why aren't the rest of them doing anything about it?
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WHAT THE FUCK
That is LITERALLY what they do to whites. Change all those things to
>slavery
>crusades
>Jim crow
>[insert the 4 white supremacist terrorists here]

Want to mention how the 4 white terrorists we all know did a better job than the muslim terrorists combined??? Don't fuck with the white man Breivik did nothing wrong.
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>>130105439
With or without the terrorism, I still don't want them coming to white countries.
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Suck crusader cock, filthy goat fucking mudslime.
Allah will gag on hog cock.
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>>130106501
Amusingly, the answers to your rhetorical questions are yes. Germans and Americans pay large restitutions to the populations they savaged. Of course you knew that. Just as you know no Muslim will do anything other than say "sorry. "sorry you're dying kafir. Where's my welfare check?"
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>>130105439
Not all muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are muslim.
Refute this.
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>>130107407
It's all of them. 4Chan should be banned. Can't risk a few bad M&Ms
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>>130107335
>too many shitty ones to trust any of them
>1.8b muslims
>30,000 members in isis
>less than 0.0006% of all muslims are shitty ones
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>>130107718
>>130107718
by the same logic as the "some muslims are bad so all muslims are bad"

some 4channers have killed people for bants.
all 4channers are automatically shitty now?

lol
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too bad, if you want your host country to trust you you have to make extra sacrifices just like they made sacrifices to bring your miserable exploding ass over here.
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>>130108038
nearly all of the terror attacks that have taken place in america are carried out by american born citizens. should america make sacrifices?
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>>130105439
>(not real muslims)
Someone made this into a not real Muslims one
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>>130106020
Your idea of a normal Muslim person is a farce. You guys will ultimately go with the path of least resistance and that is a big part of the problem with so-called "normal" Muslims. You're "moderate" and "normal" when you are outnumbered, but once you outnumber the others and once the sharia extremists start declaring Sharia-zones, where do your loyalties lie? The smart money says with other Muslims. Unless you are willing to violently oppose and remove your extremists, we cannot safely consider you not to be sleeper cells. Condemning is not enough. Words mean little in the face of such actions. Those of us familiar with your book know why you won't cast them out entirely. Because no matter what, Muslims will always support other Muslims before an infidel.

>>130107407
>>130107717
>>130107233
>>130107930
>>130107718
Look at these douchnozzles trying to astroturf. Lel
You fuckers are so obvious. "4channers," amirite, guise?
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>>130107718
As if only the ISIS ones were shitty.
Is Islam itself what is pure trash and Muslims are the biggest victims of it. The less a country has of Islam the better.
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>>130105439
I don't view all muslims this way, but at the same time, when I visited Istanbul, my Muslim friends would point out immigrants from Syria as "Muslim, but NOT like us." The emphasis they put on me returning back to the states and not mentioning them as non-Turks was serious. Without jumping too far into the shitstorm, there definitely is a "us vs them" self-awareness that a lot of Muslims go through, that Christians and Jews probably don't.

I like the Muslim girls who like to drink until the bars close at 5 am, though. They're cool.
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>>130108038
Funny because I am a Copt and guess what? Muslims protected my family from terrorists. And funny enough, whites are the ones who always act racist towards me and any other Copt I see. Arabs and Turks on the other hand are actually bros
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>>130105439
ALL muslims refuse to condemnd and hunt down what "a few (not real muslims) do".
That's a fact.

Try get the imams of a country to rat out the ones planing shit - Never!
Try to get the imams to condemn in papers and actually protest - Not in your lifetime!

End up staging "100 imam", actually actors, praise peace at some bridge while filming - Fake news and it's real.

So basically it's like a group of bullies - one of them may do the beating, but all the others cheer him on.
Fuck mohammed and "moderate" terrorists.
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>>130108404

go to turkey then faggot
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I don't hate all Muslims. I do hate all Arabs.
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>>130107714
sorry to burst your bubble, but terrorism has been a thing throughout the ages;
the people who are going through very extreme socio-economic situations, take their existing ideology and warp it for their own agenda. Take for example burma. Buddhism is the most peaceful ideology ever, you cannot even hurt a fly if you are Buddhist, and yet the Buddhists in burma commit mass genocide.
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>>130108539

as you should
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>>130108520
We are not your scapegoat. We are not White Christians.

We are Copts. We are not white. We come in peace
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>>130108404
>whites are the ones who always act racist towards me
>Arabs and Turks on the other hand are actually bros
Achmed please.
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>>130108718

shut the fuck up queer
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>>130108347
"sleeper cells"
"declaring sharia-zones
"outnumbered"

lmao is this a scifi novel about zombies or some shit? this is real life where muslims are human beings, they have lives, jobs, and families. They are just like you - they just believe different things.

i can almost guarantee that you have never met a Muslim in your life.
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>>130108745
I am a Copt you retard. None of you morons know what we been through. We don't have white privilege
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>>130108843
>they have lives, jobs, and families
And terrorists and they will have children and vote and vote for things you will not like.
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>>130105439
image is bullshit. muslims aren't even capable of apology.
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>>130108404
>Arabs and Turks on the other hand are actually bros
Oh yea? So they aren't charging you that special protection tax just for Christians?
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>>130106501

>i'm sorry what? why should we apologize for the actions of a few idiots?

A few? See this for reference, Abdul.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s

>do all americans apologize for the mass genocide of native americans

Yes. We do. We pay it in the forms of our taxes to institutions like the Bureau of Indian affairs and Indian Health services so that Johnny McRedcloud can go buy booze and drugs with his welfare check and then get checked into a socialized healthcare system who takes care of his every need while he's obese, chronically drunk and probably diabetic, and then goes to his hovel on the rez, beats his wife and smokes his peyote.

> Do all germans apologize for hitler and the nazis?

Its practically habitual at this point. But then again, most Germans are servile to their leadership to a fault, which is what allowed Hitler to seize power.
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>>130108908

fuck off, everyone thinks you're white anyway. quit being special snowflakes
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>>130108959
apology for what? we dindu nuffin wrong
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>>130108818
I am tired of Trump using us as his scapegoat to spread Islamophobia and help ISIS. We Oriental Christians are fine with Islam. ISIS are the ones who we are fleeing from, the same monster you made
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>>130108908
>I am a Copt you retard
>We don't have white privilege
Yea, that's what's holding you back
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>>130109038

you fucked your cousins and now you're all retarded
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>>130108908
>white privilege
You give yourself away too easily.
The Muslims are killing the Copts right now you retarded ignorant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Copts

Stop fucking roleplaying when people lives are being killed in the name of Islam.
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Islam, what it stands for and preaches, is a cancer.
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>>130108843

I worked in Chiraq for a few years for an underwriting agency.

Muslims are awful people to make deals with.
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>>130108965
That is what ISIS is doing, not Turkey.
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>>130105439
>What if I said all christians are terrorists because of the Crusaders?

You just triggered my trap card because yes, all religions are autistic mind poison.
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>>130109093

fuck islam
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>>130109191
>no straight white physically-able man in the image

absolutely degenerate
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>>130109160
but muslims are the biggest victims of terror. Isis have killed more muslims than they have killed non muslims...
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>>130109262
And fuck libtards Islam lovers
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>>130105439
>Why does /pol/ believe that all muslims are responsible for what a few (not real muslims) do?
We don't think they are responsible or we would punish them.

We think they enable and supply. No Muslims no Islamic terrorism.
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>>130109160
We are not your scapegoat. Sure some terrorists persecuted us but many Muslims helped us out when these things happen. We aren't jacking off to anime unlike you
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>>130109309
And yet libtards insist that Islam is a religion of peace.
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>>130105439
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Her head cover is either

A. forced

or

B. not a value I want in the West.

Tough shit lady, your sons are the terrorists.
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“We have appointed a law and a practice for every one of you. Had God willed, He would have made you a single community, but He wanted to test you regarding what has come to you. So compete with each other in doing good. Every one of you will return to God and He will inform you regarding the things about which you differed.” (Surat al-Ma’ida, 48)
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ITT: idiots who have never met a muslim and have never been to an arab country in their life.

muslims are the real victims of terror, none of you americans who are killing yourselves with your mass shootings and what not.
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>>130105439
Why does UNfags believe all NatSoc members are responsible for what a few (not real NatSoc) do?

kys
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>>130105439
>Western Media
>blaming Islam
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>>130109399

holy cuckold. are you canadian or something
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>>130105439

Sage slide threads
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>>130109399
Stop crying little bitch. Muslims persecute and kill the copts right now as they kill Christians everywhere, Centroafrican Republic,Nigeria, Siria, Egypt, Somalia, Iraq...No western country has killed any copt retard.
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>>130109093
>We Oriental Christians are fine with Islam
Good for you, it's kind of a problem over here in the other direction though
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>>130109504

Yeah tell that to the people on London Bridge.

Muslims want to escape Islamic terrorism but then refuse to assimilate in the UK huh? Doesn't make sense mate.
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>>130105439
They don't

Criticism of Islam isn't criticism of individuals.

Idiot.
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>>130105439
Why do you assume that all of /pol/ thinks that? just because a few of /pol/ do? They're not real-/pol/.

See how easy that is?
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>>130106020
Sorry to burst your bubble. I work with two muslims, and I have this view. I buy from their stores and I buy lunch from them once a week. They do decent work and they are good educated people, but as a group I trust them less than the democratic party with a ballot box.
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Wait. One post by OP. We've been had. Sage and move on.
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The true servants of the Gracious One are those who walk upon the earth with humility and when they are addressed by the ignorant ones, their response is, Peace; (25:63)
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>>130105439
Why do muslims blame people hating terrorist muslims, instead of blaming their own people who are terrorists, and therefore allegedly ruining it for them?
Instead of #notallmuslims, it should be #fellowmuslimswtfAreWeDoingToPeople
And it's great that they don't turn their own terrorists in. Yeah they're to be trusted.
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>>130109554
I am just stating the truth. Most Copts are fine with Muslims. We are scared of ISIS and terrorists like them.

When I was in class, white guys will always mock me for being a virgin all because I wanted to save it for marraige. I remembered one guy who said "I am going to plow every Coptic girl I see" and mocked my penis size for no reason
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>>130109741
the London bridge attacker was reported numerous times to the authorities by THE MOSQUE that he went to, for holding extremist views. If that doesn't highlight that this is a people thing and not a religion thing, then i don't know what does...
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>>130109504
>muslims are the real victims of terror
Implying terrorism is the only problem with Islam
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>>130109826
Individual Muslims are to be judged individually but you can make judgments of them as a group and about their religion. And they are a problem wherever they go. How many more deaths are needed before libtards realize this?
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>Go to Bahrain and UAE, Indian slaves everywhere
>Go to Egypt, muslims are shifty and dishonest
>Go to Saudi Arabia, just forget it
>Omanis are backstabbers
>Somalia is fucked to high hell
>Yemen is a true shit hole
>Iranians never learn their lesson
>Iraqis are cowards
Muslims are trash no matter what muslim country you go to. I have been to a few both nice and shit and they are all the same.
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>>130107711
No Muslim would ever say sorry, the picture's a fucking farce in every regard.
ONLY white men are taught to be like this. Only white men are convinced so thoroughly that they are worthless.
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>>130109038

Oh contraire, mes ami. You did something wrong by letting the mongols kick your ass.

You did something wrong by failing to seize Europe beyond Spain and Sicily and parts of the Balkans.

You did something wrong by failing to take Vienna and being driven off by pollacks for fuck sake.

You failed to effectively move into the industrialized age. Your writing and science languished because of religious law.

You failed to take important shipping lanes in the Mediterranean.

You failed to stop your "empires" from being carved up by western powers.

You failed to stop the rise of reform islam in the form of Wahabbist and Salafist sects.

Hell, I'd take Baathist dictators and their cronies over you. Ataturk was right in purging Islamists from his government.

You failed to stop Islam which was effectively marginalized at the time into becoming a global threat which preaches violtent Jihad.

Beyond colonial transplants, you fail to assimilate in western cultures.

What don't you fucking fail at?
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>>130109504

This isn't a hard concept. Some Muslims being "Good" doesn't change the fact that large populations of Muslims are associated with causing a lot of issues in countries.

Meeting a Muslim, which I obviously have, doesn't change the fact that importing 100s of thousands of Muslims produces too many problems to be worth the effort. It does not fucking matter if most are productive members of society if even .05% are potential jihadists. Too high a number.

And the total isolation of their communities is absurd. Assimilate or get the fuck out.
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>>130109939
Such drama. Such a heartbreaking history.
Meanwhile Copts are being killed in Egypt by Muslims and so Christians everywhere.
What are you 12?
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>>130109697
It is called terrorism. Whites tend to look down on us but when it comes to Islam we are suddenly these brave martyrs who held on to our faith against Islam. Just fuck you
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>>130106501
>checks flag
Convincing
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Not falling for it OP. Take your CTR kike ass back to Clinton's basement.
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>>130110210
>ignores what i said
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>>130106020
>people who blame islam
What's not to blame? What's good about it? It's like someone made a religion out of all of the worst human qualities imaginable and I'm supposed to trust someone who thinks it's the word of god?
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Also, having 8 kids while leeching off white people's taxpayer money is fucking despicable.

Fuck off with your attempted ethnic takeover by popping out shitloads of kids while you sit on your ass.
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>>130105439
Make one where the fingers are brown. Because that would be far more accurate.
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''If someone kills a sparrow for sport, the sparrow will cry out on the Day of Judgment; 'O Lord! That person killed me in vain! He did not kill me for any useful purpose.''' (an-Nasaa'i (210/2), Ibn Hibban in his Sahih (1071), Ahmad (389/4))

''Whoever kills a sparrow or anything bigger than that without a just cause, Allah will hold him accountable on the Day of Judgment. The listeners asked, O Messenger of Allah, what is a just cause? He replied, That he kill it to eat, not to simply chop off its head and then throw it away.'' (An-Nasaa'i and al-Hakim in al-Mustadrak)
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>>130105439
>Crusaders

got damn you must have went to public school and did no self study.

The Crusaders didn't do anything wrong faggot.
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>>130110058

Of course you can judge all muslims, they are a collective and they see themselves as such.
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>>130110196
"large populations of muslims cause issues"
>has an american flag
every terrorist attack in your country since 911 has been committed by US born citizens
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>>130105439
Crusaders did nothing wrong.
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>>130105439
Fuck you man, the crusades happened 800 yrs ago. Your vermin has spread for 1300 years. And you all say that each other isn't following "true" Islam.
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Those who believed, and those who were Jewish, and the Christians, and the Sabians, and any that believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, they will have their reward with their Lord, on them will be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

-- al-Baqarah 2:62 as rendered by Bilal Muhammad
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>>130105439
>that picture
>implying they have ever apologized
>implying they have ever done anything to curb radicalization in their own community
>implying they even want to
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>>130110217
Do you know what all the people with some skin color thinks? Woa
And yet you make sweep negative judgments of people with some skin color because some of them told you a few bad words while you demand not judge all Muslims the same despite that they are raping and killing people by the tens of thousands. Are you 12 a moron or both? Probably both. Fucking egocentric idiot.
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>>130105439
Nobody believes that there are over a billion Muslim terrorists. However, most 'moderate' Muslims aren't openly opposed to terrorism and are still backwards 3rd world savages that have no business coexisting beside people who don't shit in sand latrines.

It's fucking infuriating when Muslim apologists and ignorant liberals like yourself portray your average Muslim as being analogous to Presbyterians or Unitarian Universalist in terms of zealotry when that is obviously bullshit to anyone with eyes to see
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>>130110488

fucking lies. Allahs word is only bound on the LAST fucking thing he said. Don't fucking play games on /pol

CTR jew shithead.
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>>130110542


Yes.... from Muslim communities... if they weren't allowed to immigrate those communities wouldn't exist. 2nd gen Muslims tend to be the nutjobs and a lot of that is caused by the 1st gens refusing to assimilate at all.
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>>130109504
why the fuck should anyone want to go to an arab country

i semi agree with you. people here overinflate aspects of the issue. but don't sit there and tell me any of these things.

a) that islam isn't a disgusting religion/belief system
b) that the quran doesn't promote terrorism
c) that poor muslim immigrants in the west is a good thing
d) that terrorists aren't muslim
e) that arabs shouldn't all be nuked and removed from humanity

because that would make you a bullshitter or a retard.
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>>130106501
>apologize for the actions of a few idiots
No no, ha, we don't want an apology. We want you to make it fucking stop before we have to do it ourselves.
>712 google doc of cases where islamic institutions have condemned terrorist actions
Lot of fucking good it's doing! "Boy I sure do which ISIS would stop killing all these non-believers! Gosh!"
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>>130110308
What you said was a demonstration that you are a egocentric idiot that puts on the same level people murdering others with a few bad words if those bad words are directed to (you).
Because your fragile child ego is more important that other people lives. Amrite?
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>>130105439
>What if I said all christians are terrorists because of the Crusaders?
Are you a fucking faggot? The crusades happened because Islam INVADED Europe and Jerusalem you dense fucking queer. Christians havnt been openly hostile to anyone in 2 fucking centuries.
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>>130110350
wait so you accept Christianity but not Islam? i don't see /pol condemning Christianity when the bible has some pretty radical shit in it

>“I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)
gender inequality

>“This is what the Lord Almighty says... ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Samuel 15:3)
Mass genocide

>“Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18)

slavery
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>>130108843
Oh, look. You don't address any of my points and then moved the goalposts. No true scotsman ring any bells for you? I laid it out right in front of you, but just like the subversive little shit I know you are, first you toss out the "lmao" to try to make it look like you're above that kind of discussion and then you pull out the emotional hook with the just like you bit, and finally you throw the subversive cherry on top with the closer. I'll take a cue out of your own playbook now. "lmao!" That shit doesn't fly here, faggot. We can see through that bs. More do everyday.
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>>130110519
Reread what I wrote.
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>someone was so bluepilled they took the time to draw that comic
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Christians stopped following the radical bullshit.

Islam still embraces it. Go stone some women for showing ankles, fucking Muslim faggot.

Stay in your own shithole countries where you belong. Get out of white countries, they are not yours.
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>>130105439
the crusades happened because we were sick of muslims invading. the muslim invasions are why the crusades started.

their book openly states to kill and rape non believers. theres parts about denying your faith when its convenient to avoid persecution. every majority muslim country is a shit hole and everywhere you bring your ideology becomes a shit hole.
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>>130105439
Islam is a fanatical death cult and should be treated like one
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>>130110912
err us British Muslims stopped embracing it

but then /pol comes along as says
>"well you're not REAL muslims"
so all christians are not real christians?
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>>130110912
So all the arabs can stay if they just become atheist?
you sure?
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>>130110631
This is a valid statement.
Even the "real" muslims let a 3rd world inbreeding retard woman-fearing pedophile manual influence every decision they make. That alone makes them not compatible with Western civilization.
muslims are developmentally 1000 years behind the rest of the civilized world, at best.
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>>130110649

Whoever is teaching you about the Quran holds terrorist ideology. You are being trained with the same influences that the terrorists are. The wrong way.

The Quran:
“Serve God, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbors who are near, neighbors who are strangers, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess [the slave]: For God loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious” (Q:4:36)

places that “Return evil with Kindness.” (13:22, 23:96, 41:34, 28:54, 42:40))

“Whoever wishes to be delivered from the fire and to enter Paradise”¦should treat the people as he wishes to be treated.” (Sahih Muslim)

“None of you truly believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself”(Forty Hadith-Nawawi)

“None of you is a believer if he eats his full while his neighbour hasn’t anything.” (Musnad)

“Do unto all men as you would wish to have done unto you; and reject for others what you would reject for yourselves.” (Abu Dawud)

“Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you.” (Farewell Sermon)

“There should be neither harming nor reciprocating harm.” (Ibn- Majah)

There are thousands more like this in hadith and the Quran however sadly the terrorist ideology has a firm grasp throughout the world and the true peace inside the Quran is corrupted by those spreading corruption and hateful ideology, the hateful ideology that is shared by both extremes.
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>>130110543

This. Deus vult faggots, get out of our countries or another Crusade is coming.
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It's not flawed, religion is just fucking cancer
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>>130110799
>don't see /pol condemning Christianity
>gender inequality
>Mass genocide
>slavery
I don't see Christianity actively doing any of this shit either. I see plenty of it coming from Islam though.
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For me, personally, if you angle is "all christians are terrorists" I wouldn't give a single fuck about that. I know that people are vile and I know that I can be vile so making a generalization like that won't turn more people into terrorists unless they are already climbing down the fence.

This #notallmuslims things is dangerous because it creates a sense of ultimate good in a community. You can protest and hashtag all you want, once isis is knocking and your door and asks you about your beliefs; you aren't gonna say "you're not my islam" you are gonna comply because you have integrated the shadow.

Our western muzzies are reformed according to isis and what do they do against reformed muslims? Same as they do with everyone else who don't share their belief
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The fuck are these flags?
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>>130105439
>Why does /pol/ believe that all muslims are responsible for what a few (not real muslims) do?

Because the vast majority of muslims in the believe that what their kind are doing is right.

Because they try to impose their retarded customs onto everybody and, when the situation allows for it, they will try to force you to submit through violence.

>What if I said all christians are terrorists because of the Crusaders?

Then by your logic, America's involvement in the second world war was also an act of terrorism.
It wasn't?
That's called a military conflict.

>See how your logic is flawed?
See how your perspective is limited?
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>>130111275
they used to lmao take a look at the Romans and such
the kkk literally used Christianity as their basis for white supremacy, stating that its a god given right to have slaves.
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>>130111046
>So all the arabs can stay if they just become atheist?
How about whoever can draw the best picture of Mohammed?
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I'm not really worried about muslims in the long run. They still have low IQs, only Pakistan has nukes, Saudi Arabia is to easy to strike, every country in the world from the US to China hates muslims and would gladly fight them, muslims themselves hate each other, and the US has the nuclear option.

Our problem is the guilt riddled cucks who are so sorry for something they never did.
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>>130111112

So close :(
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>>130105439
>Implying Crusaders started the Crusades read more.
>Implying that mainstream Christianity hasn't made some pretty drastic changes since the formation of western civilization read more
>Implying logic is flawed using flawed logic priceless
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you know, there are many many americans who are contributing to this thread, like they have a right to input into this conversation. America is one of the sole reasons for ISIS's and radical Islam's existence. They raped and pillaged the middle east for their oil and natural resources, and left it in a shit condition afterwards. The very poor socio-economic situation gave birth to a poisonous ideology that spread because people had no alternative.
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>>130110799
>Gender inequality
>bad

>mass genocide
I want to cleanse the West, and if nonwhites won't go, this is the only option.
>slavery
Social institution at the time, not comparable to (((slavery))).
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>>130105680
>And sure Christian can be terrorists too, just that there is not that many.
every american soldier that identifies with christianity is a terrorist. and there are alot of those dumb fucks

sage
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>>130111768

Can't blame Americans for their poor socio-economic situation. It's how the plutocratic system is run while these race wars keep the masses distracted from their own real situation.
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>>130111494
We all know that eventually, some radicalized Nationalist group will just start taking down muslims by the hundreds. When that happens, they'll scatter like cockroaches, because they know their taqiyya isn't going to help them anymore.
They're only spreading because they haven't been properly BTFO yet.They're pretty cowardly in the face of any kind of real diversity of opinion.
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>>130111768
>and left it in a shit condition afterwards
That's why Saudi Arabia is such a shithole.

The West brings prosperity to sandniggers
Let's fund terrorist groups against the west!!!
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>>130111768
in the same way communism was popular in russia, people turn to exremism when they have no hope. This is proven with the Nazis, or way back - take a look at the french revolution
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>>130111372
newfag

>>130105439
So much to be proud of
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>>130111922

You KKK fellows had the same ideology over blacks and jews.
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>>130106020
>have lunch with Muslim coworker
>cool guy shared lunch once when i forgot mine
>tells me all the shit about his life and having to pay for his own education but still pay his parents for some reason but that what god wants.
>one day a gay couple walk through the food court
>he spend the whole lunch raging about how they are walking sins.
>ends lunch tell me he would kill them all if he could and who knows maybe one day we all will.

Cool cucumbers but some with ice in their hearts man and you will never know till they snap or get a place of power.
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>>130111768

Muslims have been fucking with my country since the beginning. Your Barbary pirates messed with the wrong people. All you had to do was leave our country alone and we would not have been having this conversation. But that is okay, muslims never learn and are destined to be punished until they give up or die.
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>>130111768
What?
NOOoooo

>iraq
>afghanistan
>libya
>iran
>palestine

americans are the good guys
>>130112045
woah
those images truly prove the inferiority of the arabs
i wonder why you chose this period in particular and not some other period
maybe because it would show that almost all people have had ups and downs
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>>130112051
Not KKK, but muslims obviously are milking sympathy for everything it's worth. That's what the whole #notallmuslims thing is. When they lose that sympathy, they will run, knowing that their taqiyya isn't going to work anymore.
The only thing keeping them afloat is the SJW mindset.
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>>130107718
Isis is the only mohamadian terrorist group? Right...
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>>130112161
lmao, acting like muslims are ruining your country when your country is ruining itself. Mass shootings, wealth inequality, expensive healthcare, racial inequality, a shit show of an election - and the icing on the fucking cake: pulling out of the paris climate agreement like that will somehow be a good thing.
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>>130112309
>That's what the whole #notallmuslims thing is.
It's a fact of reality.

It's simple logic.
>>130112415
It will be a good thing for Canada, Russia, neutral for China and Europe.
For the US - not so much.
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You know muslims are shit when Buddhists, FUCKING BUDDHISTS, hate their guts and want to kill them.
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>>130112309

So you are saying that Muslims speak the truth 100% of the time unless its not the truth in which case it is taqiyya?

You are telling me that in order for them to lie they have to get permission and only in certain cases about it?

Wow these people must be insane if they need permission to lie.
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>>130105439
I don't care about responsibility I care that they are racially inferior.
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>>130112556
tfw idiots don't understand that taqqiya is a shia concept and does not apply to sunni islam. .>10% of muslims are shia
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>>130105439
Most Muslims wouldn't cut my head for insulting Mohammad, but I think most Muslims wouldn't mind living in a society where someone else cut my head off for insulting Mohammad.

>What if I said all christians are terrorists because of the Crusaders?
Ignoring whether or not the Crusades were justified, no one denies that they were a product of Christianity and that the Crusaders were Christian. Contrast with every time a terrorist attack happens, apologists crawl out from every corner with THEY WEREN'T REAL MUSLIMS THIS ISN'T ISLAM REEEEEEE.

Also, the Crusades happened centuries ago. Muslim are massacring innocent people today.
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>>130112639
>"racially inferior"
now who has the toxic ideology huh?
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>>130105439
Because the belief system is the enabler. Crusader christians don't have the same beliefs as colony christians.
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>>130105439
This would also be fucking HILARIOUS if it were actually true, but in reality the shitskins never apologize, they just say it wasn't them.

They're doing it because they want to win. They're going to win and they're going to kill you in your country. They've said that they want to rule you and they will because you have no will.
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>>130112702

(it was sarcasm)
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>>130111422
>they used to lmao
>Muslim Londoner implying that two wrongs make a right
Yea, you're definitely a London "Muslim" with that pragmatism you are displaying...
and now you're cherry picking who to reply to because you were so thoroughly btfo already

>>130111768
and here we fucking GO! You want Americans and other Westerners to roll with your notallmuslims scheme, but you don't even acknowledge that the American citizens and other Westerners really have no fucking say whatsoever when it comes to matters that are ultimately decided upon by the deep state! You ignorant fuck! Do you think the citizens have any control over Personal Mercenary Combat Units? CIA? ANY of the Intelligence Community?
You stupid fuck. You think you understand. You wish to point out the sliver in my eye, but you neglect to remove your OWN first!
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>>130112702
This taqiyya thing is a response to the #notallmuslims argument.

It's basically "actually, #allmuslims, since they are deceiving you, naive goodhearted white man, you have to deport them all"
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>>130112556
No, I'm not saying that, and I've no idea why you would think that is the case.
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>>130112760
If facts are toxic to you, you have no real business talking about ideology.

The average Syrian would be considered developmentally disabled in a western country.
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>>130112415

Its not that bad, we don't have to leave our country like you left yours.
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People following a dogma that encourages the slaughter of non-believers and acts of terrorism

vs

People following the dogma that basically states it's better to be killed than take a life

hmmm.....
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>>130109309
That's because there is a kill apostate command from Mohammad. Isis is following orders just like the Muslims after Mohammad died.
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>>130112760

fuck off goober. you can't even have a non ironic discussion because you get wrecked speaking honestly. now say some more ironically toned bullshit to prove me right, faggot.
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>>130112782
oh no no no, i'm simply highlighting the irony. Moreso than the fact that all of the american terrorists after 911 were US born. so thats the "anti immigration" stance out of the window.
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>>130105439

fuck all muslims

have you ever actually heard a muslim say sorry for anything?

theyre filthy subhuman trash
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>>130112838
>>130112844

Yeah lol.
It's like, "You make a very strong case for peace, this must be taqqiya."
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>>130112921
>India 82
fake stats taken from richard lynn

http://www.iapsych.com/iqmr/fe/LinkedDocuments/wicherts2010b.pdf
even black africans have an average IQ of 82, in Africa
i'm sure indians have an average iq of 82 lol
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>>130112782
oh no no no, i'm simply highlighting the irony. Moreso than the fact that all of the american terrorists after 911 were US born. so thats the "anti immigration" stance out of the window. >>130113047
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8BjMW36CMNc4-qc9UNQku0blstZSzp5FMtkdlavqzc/edit#gid=0
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>>130106020
I knew a lot of Muslims back in high school. They were all very respectful, polite individuals. They rarely caused trouble, except for some of the boys, but then again they were all black.

Oh, and I still want to put you all in death camps. All Muslims should be executed on live TV
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>>130105439

The difference is Islam actually preaches murder, rape, genocide, etc. You goat molester.
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>>130113047

Want to say sorry for slavery?
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>>130112769

>Build schools, for all
>Build infrastructure, for all
>Feed all
Colonial Christians are still a net positive wherever they go.
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>>130112931
Whose life do you think should be taken?
>>130113234
And what does >>130113189 preach?
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>>130113234

>>130111112

I call your bs and raise you Quran quotes.
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>>130113189
"hey look at those sandniggers, they are violent and toxic"

"lets muder 1.8b people"

"ofc we're not violent or toxic at all!"
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>>130105439
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>>130113064
More like "Your actions do not match your words, and your religion itself states why this might be."
It would only make sense to ignore this if one were delusional, complicit, or a fool.
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>>130113047
I met a owner of a local hookah bar in my town one evening on a date. He was Lebanese and walked with a limp. He was an apostate and drinking a glass of scotch. He said candidly when I was talking with him, "Fuck Islam, all that matters is family, friends, and good food."

Straight from the horse's mouth. Chill dude tbqh, but I think that's because of his apostate status.
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>>130113307

An individual isn't a religious text, you fucking moron. ISIS has even openly mocked leftists spewing nonsense about how it's our fault they're attacking the west and we're so evil by saying in their own words, that they kill us because their religion says to and they feel it's their duty. They aren't "fake moslems" they're religious moslems practicing what their religion teaches them to do.
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>>130110799
Why do you say slavery is bad when Mohammad owned slaves?
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>>130113369

Difference being that "moderate" muslims do not recognize radicals as muslims so for someone looking from the outside in that may be the case but anyone looking from within does not accept those people.
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https://youtu.be/OSvXCVoeMjQ

>love Muslims
>bitch about wanting Muslims in our country
>not willing to provide shelter
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>>130113453

So it say's in the Quran that there is no compulsion in religion and taking a life is like taking that of the whole of humanity but when radicals do this they are not doing it because the Quran said to lie about itself?
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I know a couple of muslim apostates, they are good people.

They told me they all celebrated 9 11 in their community.
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>>130105439
>western media
Huh?
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>>130113520
slavery got outruled later but different islamic leaders.
He used to free slaves, and the ones he did keep were treated better than regular people. The reason he didn't outrule slavery was because it was the accepted practice at the time. he set out a groundwork for how slaves should be treated; fairly like normal service workers
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because all the mass murders are arabs
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>>130113568
thats a pretty shitty argument. i support hospice care, doesn't mean i'm going to house and clean cancer patients in my house. see how vapid and shallow that kind of argument is?
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>>130113537
Yet they only say this to avoid "oppression." They do not go out of their way to stop these radical acts, and most polls show that they do agree with them- even if they may not do all of these things themselves.
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>>130105439
>Why does /pol/ believe that all muslims are responsible for what a few (not real muslims) do?
Nobody is saying that you retard, there's over a billion Muslims, of course not every single one of them is going to be a terrorists, but a grand majority of them either supports the actions of those "few" or supports the political system that puts islam first above all.
That's why we don't like them.
Besides the grand majority of terrorist attacks are performed by Muslims.

>What if I said all christians are terrorists because of the Crusaders?
You're using an event that happened 800 years ago as an excuse for modern Islamic terrorism?
There has been over a dozen Islamic terrorist attacks in the last 4 months alone.
Last Christian terrorist attack, performed in the name of the religion, happened YEARS ago

>See how your logic is flawed?
It isn't
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>>130113459
>"Fuck Islam, all that matters is family, friends, and good food."
This is correct

>"Fuck race, all that matters is family, friends, and good food."
Is also correct.
>>130113706
>an analogy
>a lotr analogy
>literally humans vs orcs meme
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>>130113693
It does not say this about "infidels." Quite the opposite.
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>>130113734

So does freeing slaves and refusing to take them make you better than mohamed?
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>>130108843
Jobs? Less than 1% of refugees are employed. All on gibs. You're working for their life while they fuck your shit up. Total cuck
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>>130113776
Okay Adam Lanza, Elliot Rodger, Anders Brevik, Timothy Mcvey, etc.
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>>130113867
It's shitty because your hipocracy was just called out
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>>130113520

Owned before and free'd after.

The Islamic prophet Muhammad encouraged manumission of slaves, even if one had to purchase them first. On many occasions, Muhammad's companions, at his direction, freed slaves in abundance.Muhammad personally freed 63 slaves, and his wife Aisha freed 67. In total his household and friends freed 39,237 slaves. The most notable of Muhammad's slaves were: Safiyya bint Huyayy, whom he freed and married; Maria al-Qibtiyya, given to Muhammad by a Sassanid official, whom he freed and who may have become his wife; Sirin, Maria's sister, whom he freed and married to the poet Hassan ibn Thabit and Zayd ibn Harithah, whom Muhammad freed and adopted as a son.

Y'all had slaves legally 200 years ago, we freed them over 1400 years ago.
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>>130113867

The argument is apt. You may not house them directly but you still have to pay for them. You don't get to say you want something but refuse to pay for it.
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>>130105439
>Why does /pol/ believe that all muslims are responsible for what a few (not real muslims) do?
What ISIS, AQ etc. are doing and saying is correct from the perspective of Islamic Law, that is it finds support in Quaran, legally binding Hadiths and Ijma(scholarly consensus).

Not a single one of them can be changed(yes, including scholarly consensus) and every single muslim that doesn't apply the rules laid down by them is an apostate, therefore should be beheaded. They can lie about it tho. Even more, even if they would be wrong(they aren't), terrorists are only sinners if they interpreted those basics of Islam by themselves, and usually we can read about perpetrators being "radicalized" in a mosque, by some(saudi or qatari sponsored) iman.
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>>130105439
>crusades ended hundreds of years ago
>hadji murdering people as we speak
Whos logic is flawed?
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>>130105439

Dont care. Europe is a white continent. Fuck off.
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>>130106501
At the end of the day, Mohammed was a notoriously demon-possessed child-raping warlord and Jesus Christ was at the very least the greatest human being to ever walk the earth and at most (and most accurately) the living Son of the Almighty Father sent to Earth to be sacrificed to save the sins of humanity from the demonic blood god that both your people and the jews worship. We win.
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>>130113995

The terminology has a historic context and anyone telling you otherwise is a radicalizer or a terrorist.
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>>130114290
ISLAM ISN'T A RACE SJW BTFO
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>>130114319

Salam Christian brother.
Peace to you.
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>>130109875
>implying I dont want to be in that position when I'm dead
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>>130105439
funny because in her religion they would throw those stones on her
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>>130114345
So, a muslim, then?
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>>130105439
The most recent Crusade attack was hundreds of years ago. The most recent Muslim attack was last week. Hell, maybe this week.
KYS
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>>130114177

They cannot change the quran because it would undermine mohamed (who was "perfect") and the faith in whole. The only option for muslims is to double down and get rid of anyone who calls into question the whole situation. The problem with islam is that they put themselves into this situation and refuse to change it like the Christians did. All branches of Christianity changed the scriptures and rituals because they knew there where problems. Muslims are either too cowardly or too proud to change.
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>>130108965
turkey isnt america m8. all religious groups have same rights.
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>>130114403
Vast majority of Muslims are brownish though
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>>130105439
1 post by this complete faggot
Remember folks, sage goes in the options box.
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>>130113734
Only freed slaves when Mo didn't know better.

The Islamic View of Black Slaves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4KMOfN0Oeo .
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>>130109304
Straight white men don't put themselves in the lion's den with mudslimes
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>>130114445

Nope
A radicaliser usually an ideologist who is looking to recruit for their violent cause.
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>>130106501
>b-b-b-but muh injun genocide
every fucking time
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1a) No one blames all Muslims you retard, they blame Islam's teaching

1b)They are real Muslims. They're following the teachings of the Quran

2)If you said that you'd be retarded.

3)Not really, since your arguments were almost entirely based on fallacies
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>>130114703
So, a muslim. Gotcha.
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>>130114553
Quaran can't be changed just like Decalogue can't anon. It has the same status.

The thing is, that majority of Islamic law stems from mentioned consensus and this can't be changed(which is ruled by internal logic - texts consensus is based off don't change, how could the consensus itself change then?). So rules of apostasy, warlike nature of jihad etc. are set in stone.
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>>130114319
nice; what do you make of all the extremism in your religion?

>

Exodus 21:20-21 – "If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property."

>Leviticus 20:10 - 'If a man commits adultery with another man's wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

>Deuteronomy 22:23-27 - If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you. But if out in the country a man happens to meet a girl pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. Do nothing to the girl; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders his neighbor, for the man found the girl out in the country, and though the betrothed girl screamed, there was no one to rescue her.
Stoning to death

>Chronicles 15:12-13 - "They entered into a covenant to seek the LORD, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul. All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman."
killing nonbelievers

>Leviticus 24:13-16 - "Then the LORD said to Moses: "Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him. Say to the Israelites: 'If anyone curses his God, he will be held responsible; anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death."
more killing non believers
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>>130112250
kek
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>>130105439
Why does everyone let a few Germans from 70 years ago give fascism a bad name?
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>>130114762

I don't think you are getting my point.
I will send you a written letter explaining this.
Not sure what the postage time is gonna be.
Just keep an eye on your mail.
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>>130112250
>some other period
Except others when during their "downs" they typically don't strap explosives to themselves, crash planes into buildings, cut heads off, throw people off roofs, try to acquire nuclear weapons, etc etc etc
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>>130114904
theres a whole host of 'em. The bible has way way more fucked up shit than the qur'an.
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>>130105439
Didn't you post this exact same shit yesterday with the exact same pic? Fuck off shill. At least look like you're trying to be creative and not just copypastaing what your boss sends you
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>>130105439
why are all european christens looked at as Nazis in the eyes of jews because of Nazi Germany?
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>>130115055
really
they just threw the witch into the fire and if she burned she was guilty

amen logic
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>>130114116
So there was no Islamic slave trade that existed throughout history and it wasn't until the 20th century that many Islamic nations outlawed slavery? Come on if your going to lie do a better job
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>>130114904

Nice, but how many Christians are doing that today?
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>>130105439
>Why does /pol/ believe that all muslims are responsible for what a few (not real muslims) do
Why does the left believe that all whites are responsible for what a few (not real whites) do?
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>>130114904
This would have been an excellent point 500 years ago or so.
Literally none of this is preached, followed, or even talked about as anything more than an embarrassment now- let alone referenced while killing and raping women and children.
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>>130115158
not the 2b+ that are alive today.
there are at most 50,000 members of terror groups around the world today.
thats less than 0.0006% of all muslims. Nice.
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>>130106020
I just think your prophet is a fucked up example of a human to worship. That's my deal with islam.
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>>130105439
because it's in the book you shilling fool.
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>>130115261

You got a citation for your numbers there?
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>>130114116
And you still have slaves.
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>>130114904
>what do you make of all the extremism in your religion?
Christianity introduces new set of rules since Jesus, theologically speaking(note that all your quotes come from OT). It's also important to understand that proddies can interpret it in any way they personally want while catholics and orthodox don't endorse sola scriptura.

Islam has a rule of abrogation which means that chronologically older verses of Quaran(it's not structured chronologically, just saying) can be discarded if later verses conflict them. And it gets more extreme the newer the verse is.
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>>130106501
yes all germans willfully become victims because they think they should for the false hitler propaganda .. do you not know what's going on in Germany?
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>>130115141

By definition, they would be un-Islamic slave trade and un-Islamic nations then?

There is a strong divide between the religious decree and practical application.
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>>130109939
which country are you living in? just curious!
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>>130115357

Implying people living in Muslim countries fully support Islam. Also implying that Saudi Arabia is an Islamic country...
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>>130105439

The problem is the hordes of Muslims that are invading our countries wanting to change our life to suit them. Including Sharia Law and terrorism.
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>>130105439
Crusaders never did a single thing wrong.

They fought back a rightful menace.
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>>130115483

Is that why there are still slaves in the muslim world today? Does abolishing slavery undermine your profit?
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>>130115483
>>130115141
>>130114116

Islam doesn't outlaw slavery. It encourages against it and for good treatment of slaves but isn't against it by itself.

>>130115581

If they don't want Sharia law to be law of the land(as in - replace constitution) they are apostates.
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>>130115358
>islam is special because of some theological technicality or other
no
middle east and especially iran(and afghanistan) was well on its way to modernization, both culturally and otherwise not too long ago
turkey is (more like was) a perfectly westernized country that even had female prime ministers
nowdays tunisia is a somewhat functioning democracy

this is not only recorded, but observed history
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>>130115578

>No true Scotsman
You are going down that road now?
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>>130115578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg
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>>130106501
No one is asking you to say sorry. That meme needs to die. We want you all to leave. And if we can't have that, we want you all to Integrate. But let's be honest, if you had all integrated to begin with, no one would want you to leave. What you fuck faces do is move to a new country, and you bring your old shithole country with you. It would be like me moving to France, or some other God forsaken shithole, and never learning the language, and wanting everyone to eat McDonald's every day while watching the NFL. But not just me, thousands of people just like me, moving into the same area, and then having a "small minority" of my people behead, blow up, run over or crash planes into the French people, all while still demanding that they all eat burgers, and watch NFL.
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>>130105439
not ALL muslims.....
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>>130105439
>#OnlyAMajorityOfMuslims
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>>130105439
Your logic is flawed because the Bible doesn't command Christians to murder anyone. It condemns it.
...Whereas the koran commands all muslims to murder Chrsitians and Jews. It even goes as far as to say that if there is a muslim without battle-scars from killing infadels, he is a disgrace to islam.

...Remember this.
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>>130115830
>>130115837
the blue chart is nowhere to be found in the pew research center study

why
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>>130115650

Slaves all over the world.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/25/us/raid-sex-trafficking-thailand.html?_r=0
http://www.alternet.org/environment/walmart-and-lowes-linked-slave-labor-amazon
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/canterbury/news/car-wash-boss-arrested-in-116969/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4592096/Chilling-moment-sex-slave-rescued-police.html

It's people who are corrupt, religion came to try and cure this. If you are a corrupt person then you are not religious.

Shaykhul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah said:

"This is why those who are in authority are of two groups: the scholars and the rulers. If they are upright, the people will be upright; if they are corrupt, the people will be corrupt."
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
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>>130116012

>https://nytimes com/2017/05/25/us/raid-sex-trafficking-thailand.html?_r=0
https://archive.is/r7ehX
>http://alternet org/environment/walmart-and-lowes-linked-slave-labor-amazon
https://archive.is/zOhFy
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>>130115745

There is a logical fallacy for every statement including statements calling out logical fallacies.

Unless you embrace nihilism then all arguements are meaningless.
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>>130113277
fucking retard. google belgian congo. you are mongolian-tier.
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To the muslim using the White Pride flag, if you haven't noticed /pol/ doesn't have white guilt like white liberals do. In case you didn't notice.
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>>130105439
THIS
IS
TAKFIR

DO
NOT
BUY
IN
MUSLIM
APOLOGETICS.
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>>130115979
Because it's a graph using Pew's numbers, Ahmed.
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I like Muslims, they make me a jolly good fellow!
>>130105439
I like Muslims, they help me unwind and sometimes they make me feel mellow

You know it sing it!
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>>130115483
Mohammad is the example for Muslims to follow. He owned slaves. Freeing some slaves because they converted is not a catch all anti-slavery command.
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>>130105439
Islamic culture breeds terrorism at a rate higher than any other culture in the world. If you're a muslin you're statistically more likely to blow children up than anyone else. Not all Muslims are to blame for terrorism but all Muslims are part of the culture that breeds the most terrorism and are not except from criticism by people who have noticed this trend. It's a choice to follow the doctrine of a warmongering, inbreeding pedophile, especially in the west, and if you choose to do so you open yourself up to be criticised by people who don't agree with your decision. If you're a Muslim you're free to ignore any criticism and you don't have to apologise for anything you don't want to, that's how it works for everything, but whining about it won't make it go away. You have to accept that you're associated with the most openly violent culture in the world, currently, and people aren't going to like you for that reason alone. Even Christianity, the religion historically responsible for the most deaths in the world, has been westernised to a point where Crusades will never happen again.
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Quran (3:56)"As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (8:12)-"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
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>>130116137

Okay and? Christians still do more good than muslims ever had.
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>>130116165

What do you have to feel guilty about?
Being wrong or being extreme?
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>>130105439
T H I C C
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>>130116236
It is a pretty powerful symbol especially 1400 years ago.
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>>130115744
Iran and Afghanistan are overrated. People saw pictures from the 70's showing people in Kabul or Tehran and said - look, they reformed themselves!

1979 revolution in Iran was initially started by secular democrats. They were heavily outnumbered by the rural population which, as opposed to them didn't commit apostasy on every step.

Afghanistan was the same. Egypt was the same(democracy came and suddenly fucking muslim brotherhood came to power, who could've expected it!). Turkey is on the road to do the same(Ataturk becomes slowly outdated symbol it seems).

We can do it all day.

What's important is, that Islam has established rules that belong to middle ages but can't be changed and due to massive funding from(mostly) gulf countries, more and more muslims become aware of it, therefore "radicalizing" or should I say - becoming proper muslims.
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>>130105439
I love when people bring up the crusades not realizing the campaigns were a direct response to the aggressive expansion of Islam.
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>>130115979

It's a visualization of the numbers dumbass.
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>>130116262
Islam 101: Wasn't Muhammad Peaceful?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFQ4qAIKJy0
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>>130106020
Fight me.
>living on biggest populated muslim country on earth
Day to day basis I trade with them, and have muslims friends. All of them always says the thing like you. So what? Every radicalized muslims started out as a moderate one. Islamic teaching is the root. And those who always radicalized, most of them comes from lower class. You would not trust them saying shit because they literally will and can be radicalized just with one night due to their small brainlets
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>>130116339

If you don't feel bad about being wrong and extreme then neither should I.
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>>130105439
Are you an actual tard? Christians WERE considered terrorists during the crusades. Then they stopped killing people en mass.
Mudslimes continue to kill people.
Therefore most are considered terrorists.
Make any sense or abandon all hope for you op
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>>130106501
you do realise that 69 of the 712 entries are condemning climate change
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https://youtu.be/I_To-cV94Bo

Jihad v. Crusades
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1. death punishment for leaving islam
2. death punishment for refusing to convert to islam
remove these two laws from islam and see what happens
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>>130116458
>Turkey is on the road to do the same(Ataturk becomes slowly outdated symbol it seems).
you dont know shit. unlike poland turkey is a secular country.
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>>130116707
>remove these two laws
Theologically/legally impossible.
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>>130116458
Well that were the big cities
obviously people in the villages were more conservatives
this has been the case in Europe as well
Afghanistan, Iran both got fucked by the US, in different ways
You are historically illiterate
>>130116198
>>130116513
That's not what it means to put a source there.

To produce this blue chart based on the source you need to say 'I have X data, I use it this way to extrapolate these numbers'
Are they weighing the countries based on population? How is this relevant to western muslims? Does sharia mean the same in russia and Iraq?

the purpose of the 'visualization' is to deceive
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>>130116784
>unlike poland turkey is a secular country.
Erdogan seems to disagree with you.
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>>130105439
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>>130116458

That is just more proof that no matter where muslims go, they destroy. They can't even have nice things because mohamed won't let them.
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>>130116707
iran is full sharia state and doenst have those laws.
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>may the best terrorists win....sips grange.
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>>130105439
>a few (not real muslims)
Looks like you don't know what a real muslim is.
Allow me to help you:

https://youtu.be/PIK8bfeLXSw
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>>130113256
when are muslims going to apologize for slavery?
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>>130116865
all erdogan did is removing hijab ban during his 15 years rule. all our laws are secular. like i said if you are looking for a theocratic state, you dont look to that far. you are living in one.
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>>130111898

No.

Here's the difference: the US military is not a Christian organization-- it's an organization that contains Christians in it.

Soldiers are not acting on a Christian agenda, they are acting on a political one. And as far as I know, Christianity does not contain a doctrine for a Holy War, or encourage its followers to bring about the 'end times'. Big difference
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>>130116877
nice
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>>130116857

>Afghanistan, Iran both got fucked by the US
No, MUSLIMS fucked up Afghanistan and Iran. The US left Iran and hasn't been back since. If you were as good as claim then Iran would be much better off but the facts say otherwise. As for Afghanistan, the US didn't fuck it up, it was already that way before we got there. Your commie allies destroyed that country but that doesn't matter because they left and Afghanistan had decades to rebuild but didn't.

Stop blaming others for islam's failures.
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>>130117249
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bush-god-told-me-to-invade-iraq-6262644.html
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>>130106020
What is Taqqyia
>>
I hate moderate "muslims"
You pussy faggots don't even follow your quran properly.

ISIS are true muslims, and fuck them too.

All muslims are degenerate fucks, you believe backwards bullshit.

You're all liars too, you pretend to be against jihad to help keep your enemies confused. you're all pieces of shit.
>>
Many of you fail to comprehend what is happening before your very eyes.
This is a blatant case of Takfirism.
I will copypaste the wiki definition but this practice is the reason why you can hear Shias saying Sunnis are not muslims and vice-versa.
But also explains why you can hear ISIS calling everyone but them: hypocrites, while the rest of the muslim world say they are not real muslims (apostates).

A takfiri (Arabic: تكفيري takfīrī) is a Muslim who accuses another Muslim (or an adherent of another Abrahamic faith) of apostasy.[1] The accusation itself is called takfir, derived from the word kafir (unbeliever), and is described as when "one who is, or claims to be, a Muslim is declared impure."[2] Accusing other Muslims of being takfiris has become a sectarian slur, particularly since the outbreak of the Syrian Civil War in 2011.[3][4][5]

In principle, the only group authorised to declare a member of an Abrahamic religion a kafir (unbeliever) is the ulema, and this is only done once all the prescribed legal precautions have been taken.[2] However, a growing number of splinter Wahhabist/Salafist groups, classified by some scholars as Salafi-Takfiris,[6] have split from the orthodox method of establishing takfir through the processes of the Sharia. They have reserved to themselves the right to declare any Muslim an apostate, as well as any non-Muslim.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takfiri
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>>130117296
iran tried to nationalize Oil and had their shit CIA'd - confirmed
it's how it started, muslims came into power and the country is basically still there

still iran > USaudi arabia

not going to talk about afghanistan
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>>130117184

If I look at turkey's laws I won't find religious based laws?
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>>130116857
>the purpose of the 'visualization' is to deceive
the purpose of denying reality is to deceive
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>>130110542
why won't you address his point about muslims not assimilating the local culture of the countries they invade while they force their own culture in foreign land?
>>
Does Islam permit Muslims to lie?

Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences."

There are several forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, the best known beingtaqiyya. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause of Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
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>>130117501

Okay good, but why hasn't it been fixed since?
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>>130117565
>says the brazillian with the largest arab diaspora in the world
most of them converted, forgot arabic and are now brazillians
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>>130117518
nope! some of our laws are more liberal than some western countries. prostitution, medical marijuana, sports betting, abortion etc. are legal. we have brothels, gay bars, nudist beaches etc.
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>>130116857
>Afghanistan, Iran both got fucked by the US, in different ways
Afghanistan is interesting case by itself.

After communists left, Pakistani Taliban took control of the country going full hurka durka. The new afghan constitution, written by "secular experts" from the US states however that Islam is law of the land, which only raises question who were those "secular experts".

It's the same in Iraq. I wonder why there are so few people who know about it

Iran on the other hand didn't really get that heavily fucked by the US. They didn't support the Shah when they've had to, that's all. What happened though shows a precedent that has repeated several times afterwards.
>Does sharia mean the same in russia and Iraq?
Mostly, there are 4 major "branches" of Sunni law doctrine which agree on roughly 75% of cases.
>>130116955
Apostasy is punished by death in Iran and the only religious minority that's somewhat accepted are zoroastrians and in their case it's complicated.

The first son of Zoroastrian family that converts to Islam is lawfully given inheritance of ALL his family's property, for instance. Also they're somewhat accepted because in Iran there's a group of people in the government that are heavy on WE WUZ ARYANZ AN SHEEIT train, so for tradition's sake they allow zoroastrianism.

It is true however that some of those laws aren't taken literally - gays for example are only thrown out of buildings when they diddle kids(so, pretty often).
>>130117184
>you are living in one.
The only area on which church and the state merge here is the fact that Catholic marriages are automatically civil marriages, which is just a fucking convenience.
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>>130117357
do you not have Jewgle?
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>>130117699
idk and idk what you mean by fixed
it's doing much better than afghanistan which has the same racial composition as iran, the same language, the same history

i wonder why
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>>130106020

Most Americans and Canadians see droves of Muslims daily in College/University.

They're worse than the paqis.
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>>130107420
Nazis were the good guys though.
>>
I don't think all muslims are responsible for terror attacks. But I think the everyday types could do a lot more to prevent them.

Also, I think there is an agenda in the media to do whatever they can to avoid mentioning muslims when there is an attack, but naming them freely when there is a story casting them in a positive light. And this manipulation of the truth disturbs me.
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>>130117930
>why won't you address his point about muslims not assimilating the local culture of the countries they invade while they force their own culture in foreign land?
brazil fits that description
that description is absolutist, meaning a single example defeats it
other than brazil there's mexico for example
instances of muslims assimilating to the local culture etc.
bosnians are muslims assimilating to the local culture in europe
lebanese too (not always on paper, since a lot of palestinians that cause problems are counted as lebanese)
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>>130107420

Muslims were allied with Nazis, that is why Israel exists today. They backed the wrong horse in that war.
>>
>>130118269
Going further back, the arabs were allied with the british when they took apart the ottoman empire. Then the british stabbed them in the back by placing the jews in some of the territory they controlled.
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>>130105439
This not all Muslim meme needs to end. In every Muslim country you get the death penalty for leaving Islam in christian countries you don't. Muslims are so peaceful that they'll report their children to the authorities for leaving Islam :P
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>>130118221
>brazil fits that description
it doesn't
muslims don't have power here and they are not immigrating in large droves all at once like in europe
why don't you address muslims forcing sharia law in europe? i just laid down the differences about these kinds of immigrations for you. now stop avoiding and address the point. do it quick or all that avoidance will say just enough for everyone in this thread.
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If more muslims were like her, we wouldn't have any problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWcK99Lh9Ls
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>>130118221

Of course they will assimilate in Mexico, Brazil, and Bosnia. These people don't take shit from others not to mention there is no welfare to take advantage of. Muslims in South America are so far removed they might as well give up the faith.
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>>130118585
If more muslims were atheist, we wouldn't have any problems.
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>>130113367
it's for the best, buckaroo. Muslims are filth that need to, and God willing will be cleansed from the pages of time
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>>130118269
>>130118427
But it was the americans who supported the state of israel, and armed the revolutionaries against the british palestinian authorities
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>>130105680
I blame all people who use an apostrophe when such is not warranted. Such people are mongoloid autist subhuman's
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