The Putin Interviews thread

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>>130087361
>the true redpill
Da

>>130087361
Watched the first part, def gonna watch the rest.
I'm trying to be objective when watching, but keep falling for Putin's charisma. He's got style now. He used to look like a douche and have a body language of an autist when he just started his political career, but over time he's become quite a likeable alpha male, makes you wanna grab some beer with him.

Surprised more people haven't seen it desu.

>>130087361
People who watch with open mind will see Putin is coldly rational and not the dangerous character of the western press invention at all

Stone comes across as a typical sloppy moron, but Putin is always in total command. He plays the part of world leader exceptionally well, almost never breaking character

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>>130087604

>Girl looks cute....then I see dat bulge....

>>130088578
He has a talent for explaining things in a reasonable way. His interviews are usually pretty good.

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>>130088581
>not sure I'm happy you pointed that out or not

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link or nah

also Monroe

He's a very good speaker and knows how to deflect actual criticisms of Russia.

It's the only thing he won't openly mention, which tells me Russia isn't as all powerful as American Media would have you believe.

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>>130088581
>>130089359

You guys never grab a girl by the pussy or what? Some girls have puffy vulva.

>>130089697
Russia is a shithole mate.

I only saw the teasers.
Hyped but can't find it anywhere
SHOWTIME a grabbing them shekels and won't release it full length on their channel

Stone is the perfect man for the job, for he hasn't a flaming asshole for Russia and unlike libshit shabbos boys like Megyn won't fail with the worlds most powerful man embarassingly

>>130089848
>>130089547

I found it on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuxmPaNZmik

>>130089848
>what is the pirate bay

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>>130089836
T.ive never left my desert and get geographical impressions by /b/ Slav hate threads

Kill yourself mate

>>130090025
Ty fambalam

>>130088558
You have right, hes got his homework done, his body speech shows lots of charisma and power.
>>130087361
As much as i appreciate that Russia oppose USA freedom of projection of power in middle east, you must understand he does not do it beacose of duty or justice. Its just politics so in my opinion hes not ,,based".

>>130087361
If Putin brings down the petrodollar he's a hero.

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>watched the first two
>If you watched Stone's American History series, this is a lot of the same.
>Stone plays the long game and really tries hard to illustrate how these political games keep getting repeated. No doubt, Amerifags will be completely oblivious to it.
>Putin is cold and calculated, but that doesn't make him a bad guy. It just makes him not a fag.
>You come away with a greater appreciation of what he had to do to keep Russia afloat and come to a more profound realization of how big of faggots American leaders are

>>130090025
Thanks a lot

>>130089835

I hope it's vulva (love some roast beef taco), but you never know on 4chan...

>Be America
>Country gets attacked
>"We stand with the democratically elected government of country."
>Translated: "We stand with the publicly popular but no less US controlled government of country"

Putin is pure evil. It's the charisma, you can tell.

I have been looking forward to the interviews for some time, but are they available now? I have only seen short clips.

>>130091874
Read before posting.

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>>130091874

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx0GwIKHnTk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zHHkUeWim8&

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQiv5SLOIIY

>>130092484
Thanks.

>>130090025
Thanks fampai. Great interview, great guy.

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>>130087361
>Putin says something reasonable
>[OMINOUS COMMIE MUSIC INTENSIFIES]
Fucking American documentaries

>>130091793
>Poo10 is EBIL. EBiiiiiIL I tell ya

Nope.
It's that libshits and cuckservative, used to politician without a backbone since their childhoods feel that he's absolutely intellectually ,emotionally (controls them 100%) and politically superior to them and that scares them shirtless.
Literally noone has ever bested him 1to1 in an argument
Noone.

Regardless on his political views , which I for one condemn doe example his fairly libshit interior policy (even.g open border with neighboring Muslim STANS who overwhlmingly drug dreal and rape ) you can't deny his personal qualities

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The left is actually right about him. He is the epitome of goddamn corruption.

https://phys.org/news/2015-07-sochi-winter-olympics-billions.html

Half of Russia hates him and cannot do anything about it because he has absolute power. He was president from 2000 until 2008. In the next four years the law was changed and that has annulled his previous terms; the term length was increased to 6 years for a total of 18 possible years. I am pretty sure the Russians have a way to keep him young and energetic. Enjoy.

>>130087361
Great leader. He should do the world a favour and retake Constantinople.

>>130087361
>Russia isn't the bad guy

I am concerned for this brit and the whole thread

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>>130094489
needs to be more like America when we 'democratically' elect


> BUSH
> CLINTON
> CLINTON
> BUSH
> BUSH
> NIGGER/CLINTON
> NIGGER/CLINTON
> CLINTON LOSES

>>130094489
>The fucking rpesident has the need to steal PERSONALLY
Neck yourself brainlet

I don't deny Russia has a corruption problem , which is way way less damaging that OUR actual corruption (aka just genociding your native population by opening your borders for Dem SorosBUX) but this is just pure lunacy

Not only doesn't the president need to steal but he can literally make 0.00 and still will be fed by volunteers who admire him and will get a six figure job by advising , holding speeches etc after retirement

>>130094489
>Half of Russia hates him
1-3% isn't "half" by any stretch of the imagination, whatever faggot apologist tell you.
>In the next four years the law was changed and that has annulled his previous terms
Idiot. The law states that president can't be in power for more than two terms in a row. That's it.

>>130094929
Was the original bush a one term president?

>>130087361
When is the torrent coming out

>>130087361
>aggressive imperial state

you do realize that of any extant country, Russia has aggressively expanded into the most kilometers?

as far as i can recall it's also the only country to forcefully take territory from another this century.

stop betraying your country by being stupid enough to buy into Russia's Pysops, ideological subversion bullshit.

>>130088581
>the permavirgin meme is true

>>130095247
Yes, after Reagan had been in power for two terms.

>>130087361
>tfw he will never have a worthy successor or a similar leader in the world

>>130095679
Why did people vote in a second bush if the first was a one term loser?

>>130095695
He's had enough time to groom a suitable heir.

>that America is actually an aggressive imperial state hiding behind the veil of a democratic republic.
Duh.

This is what makes him sound so reasonable--that he points out something virtually every country in the world notes (hence why we're considered the biggest threat to global security by far, and rightly so).

What Stone has always been so good at pointing out in both his nonfiction and fiction work is how America reacts with a sledgehammer to problems it itself has either created or deeply intensified. Expanding NATO into former Warsaw Pact countries, which have historically been the crux of invasions into Russia (including twice in the 20th century) is further evidence of the central tenet of American foreign policy: hegemony or survival.

I don't like Putin at all and for good reason: he's acted like a totalitarian and his crimes against the Russian people are pretty easy to establish. However, he is not the great threat to world peace that NATO, i.e. the U.S., is intent on making him out to be. He is simply another example of capitalism's failure across the globe.

>>130095799
They almost didn't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000#Florida_recount

>>130095325
> you do realize that of any extant country, Russia has aggressively expanded into the most kilometers?

How so? The Russian Empire was smaller than the Western European Empires and largely inherited from its own colonizer the Mongol Empire. Russia was just lucky enough not to settle near niggers.

>>130095325
>you do realize that of any extant country, Russia has aggressively expanded into the most kilometers?
Yes. So
Ethnic Russians are white and we're destined to dominate the lesser race. U mad kike slave?
Also
>That flag
>Complaining about territorial expansion
Oh am I laughing. What's up with them injuns and the whole foundation of your country faggot

>as far as i can recall it's also the only country to forcefully take territory from another this century.
You can't take your your own territory "away" from someone.
Crime is and always was Russian
A commie dictator hailing from Ukraine just "gifted" it to his buttbuddies.
Ergo illegal null and noone cares


>stop betraying your country by being stupid enough to buy into Russia's Pysops, ideological subversion bullshit
.
Not falling for corporate Jewish fear mongering of le Enemy™ to further their geopolitical aganeda is unpatriotic.
Good fucking goy

>>130095325
>as far as i can recall it's also the only country to forcefully take territory from another this century

What is America and Kosovo. Fucking hypocrite, I can't wait for your degenerate nation to die

>>130095325
>you do realize that of any extant country, Russia has aggressively expanded into the most kilometers?
Of uninhabited wasteland, centuries ago. So what?

>as far as i can recall it's also the only country to forcefully take territory from another this century.
Assume the US falls apart: some of the states seceded from the union, including Virginia. Twenty years later, Virginia decided to become vassals of Russia and say "fuck you" to the remaining of the United States. Would the US take Norfolk back before the Russians claim ? Yes, without a second thought. Would it be justified? Yes, totally, as the military base was built by the whole of the US, not only Virginia, and because giving it to the Russians would be dangerous for the US. If you believe otherwise, you're a fucking idiot.

>>130087361
you can't think or say something like that. now you are on the list.

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>>130087604
>>130088581
>>130089359
>>130089835
>>130091221
Puffy or pee pee?

Putin also trolled Comey by offering him asylum for being a leaking piece of shit. Western press... Silent.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-15/putin-offers-asylum-leaker-comey

>>130095325
Fuck off. What is Manifest Destiny and the Munroe Doctrine? The US unilaterally declared that all of the Americas is its sphere of influence.

>>130096088
>Yes. So. Ethnic Russians are white and we're destined to dominate the lesser race.

that's not a valid argument so i'm just going to pretend you weren't stupid enough to say it.

>Oh am I laughing. What's up with them injuns and the whole foundation of your country faggot

the fact that America did some bad shit 100+ years ago is again, not really a valid defense of Russia.

>You can't take your your own territory "away" from someone.

being on /pol/... not knowing what casus belli is, god this page is a joke.
everyone has an excuse to start their war, read a fucking book dude.

>>130096185

last time I checked Kosovo wasn't part of America so try again.

Anyway from what Russians are saying, he's competent he loves his country but he's not motivated enough to go all the way and introduce radical changes, especially to root out corruption and improve goverment efficency

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>>130087361

Putin is a true statesman, and unlike the treacherous, Zionist-owned monkeys that call themselves the "leaders" of the West, he speaks openly and plainly about the objectives of Russia.

Have you ever heard an American politician talking openly about strategic things?

They do everything veiled in secrecy.

>>130096848
> only country to forcefully take territory from another

This is what you said. America forcefully took Kosovo from another country and made it it's vassal state essentially, with American military bases and puppet politicians.

>>130096848
Try to take it away from us you fucking nigger.

>>130096848
>last time I checked Kosovo wasn't part of America so try again.

What is a vassal state? The whole reason Kosovo exists is as a big "fuck you" to Russia and the Serbs, and to establish yet another NATO stronghold close to the border of Russia and its aligned states.

>>130087361
im unironically convinced that Russia has actual paid shills here

"If you say Jews run the banks you're blaming them for your poor decisions!" Vladimir Goodgoyin

>>130096400

yeah, back when painting maps with your country was still a thing.

All I'm saying is that if i had to choose one country to establish a hegemony over the planet it sure as hell wouldn't be Russia.

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>>130087361
I loved it. Putin is the only viable future for Europe.

>>130094489
>Half of Russia hates him and cannot do anything about it because he has absolute power.

They elect him every 4 years, lmao. I think he has 80% approval rating or something.

>The left is actually right about him.

The left is by definition never right.

>>130097142
you'e a retard
there are literal government shills from all over the world
corporate shills from media to entertainment
unpaid shills part of some sort of ideological cult (islamic, antifa shills)

>>130096988
oh boo fucking hoo

"Mommy plz give hug, America is winning so that makes them bad"

vassalization and expansion are related but not quite the same thing. it's the civilized alternative, it's not like we we're gonna just sit there and let the USSR rival us.

>>130097683
how does that make me a retard if you're not even refuting my point

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>>130097695
>and let the USSR rival us
>(((us)))

you forgot where you are, Shlomo

>>130097695
>it's not like we we're gonna just sit there and let the USSR rival us
...Kosovo happened in 2008. Fucking Amerilards

>>130097024
wait what?
What is anyone trying to take away from you?

if you're referring to Crimea not only could America absolutely do that if Nukes didn't exist but it's also not really "yours". As in it doesn't belong to you the person and you don't really stand to benefit as an individual.

but yanno, sick nationalism dude.

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>>130097206
The difference is that the US enforced Manifest Destiny, and then used the Munroe Doctrine as a basis of all further intervention in the Americas (choose a Latin American state whose democratically elected government was overthrown by a brutal US-backed dictator). Remembering, this has all happened within the last 50 years.

>All I'm saying is that if i had to choose one country to establish a hegemony over the planet it sure as hell wouldn't be Russia.

Granted, but Russia's foreign policy is based around sovereignty and independence - they are are pure "realist" state. Which is why they are so hostile to the idea of the EU and NATO gobbling up all of their borderland.

Maps like the picture attached give a good example of why the Russians get so defensive.

>>130097695
You've invaded Yugoslavia in 1999, a decade after the USSR fell. And while bombs painted with US flags may seem civilized to you, I can assure you they do not to those whose cities they fall onto.

>>130097695
>What were the Balkan wars
>NATO bombing of Serbia
>Kosovo War

You can't exactly call the vassalization of Kosovo civilised.

>>130092484
Can we get english versions? It's difficult to enjoy the documentary when you can't understand the questions being asked.

>>130088578
Highly intelligent, so... Yeah. I guess coldly rational is accurate. He is clearly having much fun toying with the feelings of many obtuse bobbleheads in our mainstream media. For that alone I'd buy the man a drink.

>>130097982

Russia*

and the fall of the Union didn't change anything. the reasons for us being opposed didn't really shift very much. It's just that America has a pretty strong lead now.

Just because you've started to win doesn't mean you just call it an end and stop trying. Haven't you ever read Ender's Game?

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>>130097987
>if you're referring to Crimea not only could America absolutely do that if Nukes didn't exist but it's also not really "yours"

>>130097783
because you figure there are russian shills based on the fact people side with them over US rhetoric, singling them out amongst a sea of shills

>>130087361
>What does /pol/ think of the Putin Interviews?
Gay.

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>>130097982
>>130098208
>>130098214
That guy is obviously a Kike. Everyone with basic educating advocating for US imperialism is a Kike or a shabbos goy. Just look what he says in the next post (>>130097987)

>but yanno, sick nationalism dude.

Obvious Jew-talk is obvious. According to the (indirect) polls I've seen, around 10-15% of /pol/ are Kikes. Just be warned.

>>130098041
yeah man, I was an 18 year old RT shill at one point too so... been there, done that etc.

i'm not saying the US isn't trying to take over the world. I'm just saying I want them to succeed. obviously I'm a little biased as an individual but I think our ideology will keep humanity away from dystopia and from ending up as the bad guys in a Sci-Fi Novel.

>>130090323
Wow you guys have bridges?? Hey everybody, he has bridges!!

>>130087361
Putin is ruthless and intelligent yes but he leads a shithole country. It's a shame because he would be the perfect fuhrer.

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>>130087361
The thing that scared me the most if when he said "I don't understand why our partners do these things"
If one of the most powerful men on the planet with spies and regular meetings with other world leaders doesn't understand why our leaders do the crazy shit they do then we truly are run by insane people

>>130098732
it's not as if there's any way I can prove that i'm not Jewish.

It also doesn't matter since the entire "hur dur dah jewz" thing is pretty much the ultimate bluepill.

you get to feel right, like you know things everyone else doesn't. you also get to simplify all of geopolitics and history down to a single conspiracy instead of actually having to know anything.

>>130097987
>>130096848


>When a libshit ventures into pol

JUST

Fucking hell you are embarrassing.
It's the same level of traditionally libshit BuzzFeed tier post, with unimaginative sarcasm, petty sm
Narkiness, houlier-than-thou,, hisoric revisionism, political illiteracy and plain derangement that make one cringe

Like literally one can't muster to begin on even how to reply to the "arguments" you're making, they're so uterrly retarded and bizzare

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im only half way through but from what putin says about how he raised russia from being a laughing stock seems to be what trump is doing now.. putin just had to do it 17 years ago.

>>130099228
>trump is doing now
Lmao Trump is wasting this time with typical neocon bullshit
He should have fired everyone and let Assad kill whoever he wants

>>130098750
I think we're in agreement. My points aren't anti-US or pro-Russia, particularly. It's just very easy to fall into the trap of saying "Putin is evil and wants to take over the world" or "the US is evil and controls us all", without considering the perspective of either side, and seeing what drives that perception.

The US and Russia could easily co-operate, and did so very well with Bill Clinton initially, then Putin with Bush (even despite the Georgia intervention). Unfortunately, the neoliberals in the Democrat party spent 8 years undermining the good relations that had been built with threats, sanctions and bellicose language towards the Russians.

The world I would prefer to live in is one where sovereignty is respected, and no one nation behaves as if it has the right to tell, and threaten, another nation what to do with its own people.

>>130098918
Do you have a job or any friends? (Facetious question.) I'm sure you've had people you trust fly off and do the stupid, self-destructive, alienating shit, and didn't understand what they were thinking. "Important" and "powerful" people are still people. I wet my pants over that realization loooong ago. I'm here for you if you need a tissue or a hug.

>>130098918
He clearly knows why they're doing these things. Remember, it's an interview that is going to be released to the world - not his personal diary.

Part 2 in English

https://youtu.be/qKoWPGMZ_MY

Someone find 3 in English

>>130099109
I'm glad I'm not so ignorant that I have to just pretend the person i'm arguing with is crazy instead of saying anything of value.

Nothing iv'e said is even related to liberalism in any way.

maybe if you read some books and come back you'll have to mental capacity to have an actual 2-way discourse about an issue. just saying "wow this fucking lib/kike/shill/etc doesn't even make sense so I don't have to produce a valid argument" is fucking childish.

>>130099660
He wins chess by playing black.

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>>130087361
stone is a ignorant jew scientologist vowing for the nwo
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Stone

WTF I love Putin now

>>130100366

To defeat the Jew, you must use the Jew.

>>130099499
good to see someone acting civilized here.

my perspective is a little different in that I agree with sanctions against Russia any time they try to take back the territory they lost. This isn't a game yanno, you don't just say "okay guys we won and it's over now so just reconquest everything you lost and we can do it again in 50 years"

personally I don't think it will end until Russia is too weak to compete on the same level as the U.S. Too close geographically and too close in fieldable military is a flawless recipe for rivalry and eventually war.

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>>130087361
You're out of your fucking mind.

>>130088578
>People who watch with open mind will see Putin is coldly rational and not the dangerous character of the western press invention at all
He was a fucking spy you dipshit.

>>130087361
looks like russian propaganda is working

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>>130099049
>It also doesn't matter since the entire "hur dur dah jewz" thing is pretty much the ultimate bluepill.

kek, looks like I was right

>>130100973
Dogshit. Remember the "American Spring" Russian trolls were promoting on here?

watched the first episode, but I've seen this stuff before in this video

It's more redpilled, names the jew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Cl8lSv9Is

>>130100973
it really is.

some day people will probably look at this as the first pysops operation to reach such massive scale and effectiveness.

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>>130100777

The digits make a good point.

>>130101034
you do realize that saying you're right doesn't actually make it so?

just keep pretending that the rest of that post didn't hit your proverbial nail right on the head.

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>>130099499
This a million fucking times

>>130087361
This is pretty much what I think - Putin is among a small minority who get it.

>>130100973
More like American propaganda stopped working. America has countless countries and billions of lives, and even Americans aren't buying the bullshit anymore,especially since the life of the average person has been getting worse and worse


>>130101212
>it's just like [pop culture refference]

You will fit right in at reddit.

>>130095325
>as far as i can recall it's also the only country to forcefully take territory from another this century.
Have you been asleep? The US has invaded and installed puppet governments in several nations in the last 20 years.

>>130101212
It's just the Russian soft power engine that these retards are fueling.

>>130099499
>>130101414

Like this is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Putin dindu nuffin we can be frends. :)

Yeah, expect Putin is an authoritarian leader who is ideologically opposed to the west and is actively and overtly running an anti-american, anti-western and anti-liberal* foreign policy. This is not news, Russia has been doing this for a LONG time. He doesn't want to be friends, but he sure loves you useful idiots eating his shit up.

All americans who unironically support Putin are nothing but traitors.

*(that's freedumbs for you dictionary corrupting burgers)

>>130101166
This documentary is superb. It basically sums up what happened in 90s Russia: The currency tanked and Russian Jews borrowed money from their American counterparts to buy up the entire Russian industry at a bargain. Those became the oligarchs, and when Putin started clamping down on them they cried "muh political freedom", "muh free press". Since then Putin has been known as the dictator, even though he is democratically elected every 4 years. As the Polish proverb goes:

>The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you.

>>130090025
Ty britbong
Hard Brexit tfw!

>>130096258
>Assume the US falls apart: some of the states seceded from the union, including Virginia.
lol, in this analogy, does the US starve millions of Virginians to death or are you just really full of shit?

Incredibly good content.

Glad to be reminded that Oliver Stone isn't cucked to the bone.

Bummed that there's only 4 episodes. I'd love to watch a new batch every year as world events progress.

gtfo you russian shill


Putin murders his adveseries, their government controls the media, and they kill off trap loving faggots like you everyday. You got a crush on a manlet ya fuckboy

>>130091007
Wasn't the American history series just one big apaology to communism?
I could only watch an episode and a half before he went on and on about how FDRs VP would've worked with the USSR and everything would've been great, even though the VP in 1951 admitted he was wrong about how great the USSR was.

>>130100744
I'm a Russian American, so I understand both points of view. US always was full of shit, but relative to other countries it had good balance of freedom/safety. Now it's a literal police state with propaganda basting from every mainstream outlet. It happened after 9-11. I fucking hate what the country has become, and it gets worst every year. Not only is the freedom slipping away, economy is collapsing too. It's centrally controlled economy by now. The cronies malinvest like crazy, and even though the mechanism of non market control is different, the results will be the same. People our money in non economic activity because crony capitalists through government provide high returns. Economic activity is all based on these scams. Basically the market forces are not working in this environment. I wouldn't be surprised if the food will be gone given the shit that's happening. It's already non economic to run a supermarket. The food quality has gone to shit too, and good food is expensive. The quality of everything is shit as well. Everything happens over the fucking propaganda through the media. It's like a convoluted USSR praising capitalism, yet engaging is a weird form of fascism where the beneficiaries are people with visible defects.

Russia is also a piece of shit. Putin is like Clinton, but actually qualified to the the president. Navalny is literally what the establishment accuses Trump of being, yet they all support the guy to be the president of Russia. The anti-foreigners stance the guy has doesn't bother them, and the fact that he hang out with russian nationalists (not even neo nazis, they are a mix of communists and nazis at the same time) doesn't bother anyone. But Russia now has some future. Would I want to live there? No, because they can be nuked by our loonies. But they do improve. We just get worse and worse.

>>130087361
I don't really have an opinion of the guy, he's just like every other politician. But man is it ever cringey to see American flags/slav diaspora in America worship this guy like he was the second coming of Christ. It's almost as bad as the Trump daddyposters on reddit. Pretty funny how people have billed Putin out to be some kind of mastermind, he looked like a bitch during the Syria strike

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>>130095799
The election came down to one county in one state that was disregarded and decided by a single supreme court judge who literally appointed G.W. President.

People voted for G.W. again because "9/11" and you were a terrorist sympathizer or didn't "support the troops" if you questioned this.

It was an utter fucking shit show. That also says nothing about how the neocons fucked every American in the ass and drove our economy into the ground.

>>130098774
Also the best picture he could find of Russia is a 3d rendering. Thats not even a real place LOL

>>130087361
Putin is a corrupt oligarch that sells off Russia to his buddies in exchange for their support. You directly bought into his propaganda.

It's not like America has the rural high ground, but Putin isn't exactly a good guy.

>>130102711
>rural
I meant moral obviously.

>>130097670
This

>>130097670
You do know he rigs elections right? Russia basically has no opposition. Even the official "opposition" just rubber stamps whatever he says. It's a puppet to create the appearance of democracy.

Fucking hell this is pretty good

The best interview with a politician I've ever seen

>Presents very considerate yet crusicsl histoicsl background
>Never before peeks into the mind of Putin
>Decent Bantz
>Down to earth, simple "as is" style

I'm halfay trough the first part and this is stellar.

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>>130103154
>>130097670
>They elect him every 4 years, lmao. I think he has 80% approval rating or something.

He assassinates his opponents.

>>130100744
>good to see someone acting civilized here
Thanks.

> any time they try to take back the territory they lost

See, this is where it gets hazy. They never really "lost" Crimea. The Ukraine SSR was afforded autonomy and then independence under certain provisions. The Russians took most of their nukes back, but I believe there was a level of understanding that the Crimea military base, which is hugely important for Russian naval access, would be shared. (Despite it being a mostly ethnically Russian area).

Now, put yourself in Russia's perspective. Ukraine is continually promised the world by the EU and NATO, whose borders are getting closer and closer to Moscow, year by year. There's then a highly suspect election and half of the nation, which is ethnically Russian, is in uproar about the prospect of joining Europe.

Alongside that, your main naval base of operations for the past few hundred years and houses your nationals, while technically being in a foreign state, is under threat of passing to a rival that draws its borders closer to you, and is your economic and political competitor.

Seriously, what would you do? Support the Crimean wish for annexation into Russia, or just lose your last buffer and largest border to Europe, as well as your gateway to the Mediterranean. Really, it's a no-brainer, and it surprises me that people act so shocked.

Use Cuba as an American equivalent example. You have your playground and military base overthrow its shitty dictator and replace them with a populist, who you oppose, and that person then aligns the whole country with your sworn enemy - right on your doorstep. Enter Bay of Pigs, Cuba Missile Crisis.

The difference is, the US failed in retaking its land.

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>>130101404
The malign influence of Jews on Western Christian society has been discussed and proven at length on /pol/. From the media, the banks, to socio-political (feminism) and geo-political movements (neoconservatism was founded by Trotskyite Jews). For any /pol/lack who has been here for at least a month there can be no doubt in his mind regarding the Jewish Question, may the media lie as much as they like about it.

>>130103249
again, he's a trained spy you fucking retards.

Some of you idiots have that mentality that makes you susceptible to joining cults.

>>130103299
This too.

I definitely believe that most people approve of him, but an 80% victory is just ridiculous when young people clearly dislike him.

>>130103154
>>130103299
>You do know he rigs elections right?

Every Russian election has international observers as in every European country.

>He assassinates his opponents.

Wouldn't that lower his approval rating?

>>130102033
I never said that he "dindu nuffin". I said that there can be a level of co-operation, particularly if it's based around non-intervention in another power's internal affairs.

He's played the cards he's been dealt well. The collapse of the Soviet Union, the rise of powerful oligarchs and Russian mafia figures, would never have allowed for a soft democratic/"liberal" leader. See how well Gorbachev and Yeltsin did.

He is what he is because of the nature of Russian culture.

>>130103634
You underestimate how easy it is to fuck with elections. We have observers here and they do it all the time.

As for the approval ratings, Russian media obviously doesn't cover these things. And what do most Russians watch.

>>130103564
>I definitely believe that most people approve of him
Stalin took great pleasure genociding Russians and there are still grandmothers who kiss his glass coffin in his monument.
>>130103634
>He assassinates his opponents.
>Wouldn't that lower his approval rating?
lol, no. Russians like being conquered by their own rulers, ruled with an iron fist and generally destroyed. His approval ratings probably went up when that guy was shot. Why? Russians admire people that are brutal and more powerful than them.

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Putin is legit, it's your MSM that is ruining every goddamn naratives. The media(kikes) needs to die.

That moment where Stone asks Putin if he thinks the US could beat Russia in an armed conflict and Putin says "no" gave me chills.

>>130103900
Pretty much. Patriotism breeds strong feelings.

>>130102491
Pretty much. First term, people who were already outside the mainstream media bubble became aware of 'election anomalies' and Diebold became a meme associated with rigged ballots. By the time the second term came around, there was a prominent liberal agenda to get the youth vote out... even registering new voters on the street . It wasn't enough, however, probably because Diebold was still a thing perhaps. Ohio was in 2004 what Florida was in 2000, albeit, a lot less well-known. Ohio had its fair amount of voting problems, but John Kerry and George Bush were both Skull+Bones klansmen so alls good in da hood as they'd say.

Voting machines still feature closed-source software, and independent inspections continue to be verboten almost 20 years after the questionable results in 2000 and 2004. It triggers me that no liberal remembers this shit when they scream their heads off about muh russians. There's no way Bush had a legit ability to be re-elected as he was already really unpopular in pre 911 2001, 2003, and 2004. Before you call me a libshit, there's no way Crazy McCain and all-milf/no-brain Palin could've beat Obama and Mitt Romney and his atlas-shrugged running mate was similarly unelectable. Rigged voting machines or not for those election seasons, Obummer had it in the bag both times. Either they fixed the voting machine bullshit by 2016, some miracle fucking happened, or someone tipped the scales in Trump's favor (not the Russians, but perhaps the MIC). Voting in USA has been rigged one way or the other since the 20th century.

>>130088578
I don't give a fuck what he's like. I don't like Russians. I don't want them having power. I don't give a fuck if they have good qualities.

>>130103504
Says the retard brainwashed by MSM bullshit.

>>130087361
>listening to a former KGB
>trained to make people believe what he's saying
goy stop it

>>130104003
>Patriotism breeds strong feelings.
That's a nice way to say that Russians are hopeless submissives that love misery.

>>130103900
>Russians admire people that are brutal and more powerful than them.

That's why they revolted in 1917. The mental gymnastics of you people is amazing.

>>130088578
stone is a vietnam vet who was wounded twice, directed/co-wrote some of the greatest films ever made and now is one of the few people asking questions with an open mind.

he comes off as sloppy because he smokes weed a lot.

>>130087361
How does Oliver fucking Stone not have more twitter followers? This man is a human red pill dispenser, lefty or not. Great for converting normies.

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>>130087361
putin is a dictator, not a leader

>>130104229
I'm saying that glorifying your nation, even if it's pointless, is an easy way to drum up support.

>>130104254
Their leaders at the time were utterly incompetent. When they revolt they always turn to another strongman.

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>>130104375

>>130087361
power hungry and delusional, his country is practically in ruins while he plays around with war.

>>130104375
Hi Mr CIA/FBI/MSM/Liberal Man.

Go away you're not fooling us anymore.

>>130104375
You're either with us, or with the terrorists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpPABLW6F_A

Sorry, but they're all dick taters.

>>130104105
>Diebold became a meme associated with rigged ballots
The first time I realized the elections were fucked was when I was cashing a check at Bank of America (shit bank, but someone wrote me a check to it). There was a man servicing an ATM machine. When he pulled the unit out of its casing, it said DIEBOLD.

That's right, the same people who were making our voting machines also made ATMs for the largest banks in the world and America. How the living fuck could that be secure? How the fuck could they be impartial?

>I'm not a woman I don't have bad days
Ahahahahahahahahahaahanaahaaha
Ahahahahahahahahahaahanaahaaha

Putin bantz is top tier

I can sense the collective feminist hivemind internally screeching in abony

>>130104375
>It's a dog not a canine
BRAINDEAD retards like you only accomplish the opposite, make Russia more popular

>>130104174
>Says the retard brainwashed by MSM bullshit.
>Nuh uh! Putin wasn't in the KGB! Everything he says is nice and I like him!
Get Putin's dick out of your mouth before you speak, cuck.

>>130087361
If anyone want to see how a loser talks, listen to Putin. He may be right and he may be wrong, but he is a loser and talks like one.

Like how there is a sub convo over puffy pussy

>>130104254
>That's why they revolted in 1917
An aggressive Fascist take over, that executed their former government and lead to the fucking over of the entire population? Russia wasn't France you retard, even then Napoleon took full advantage of the enraged public to insert himself into power which was worse. Same for Russia.

It wasn't some organic, "people's" revolution. It was a fucking power grab.

>Putin won his elections with 80%! It was fair!

Their election observers came from the Commonwealth of Independent States. It's a joke.

>>130087361
Fuck off
Russia has always been source of major shitty problems and always been a pure evil.

Russians are worse than niggers,
literally Satan.

>>130104416
It's true. We saw G.W. Bush do that. People were terrified to question it.

>>130104500
Even if we assume this to be true:

If Russians love Putin for killing his opposition, then what is wrong with it? It's the will of the Russian people.

Shiiiiiieeeeeeeet
Interview watch update

Pooten named the Achmed

"Islamic Fundamentalism" instead of saying simply "terrorism"

This would end the career of every cuckeuropa politician instantly

>>130104540
Putin is easily arguable as a dictator because of the "President for Life" shit.

Was the interview good. Oliver Stone is one of those few lefties that I considered Redpilled. He has spoke out against ant Assad rhetoric and has named the Jew in the past.

>>130104254
>(((they)))

>>130105020
>It wasn't some organic, "people's" revolution. It was a fucking power grab.

The 1917 revolution was a 5-year civil war. You are uneducated.

>>130105102
T.deranged libshit/brainwashed ZOG slave/butthurt belt

Compare the "feats" of Russian Federation since its inception in 91 with US foreign policy .
If Russia is Satan then the US is Satans Father

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I've watched three parts so far. Vlad is a true leader in character and personality by the book, always putting himself in the up most position in every question without getting too proud and calculating exactly how a counter question could affect his answer. I can't paint him as a good or bad global actor due to actions from the different factors always running in favor or against the interests of Russia but I can't deny the genius of how to respond accordingly in the latest military escalations. Oliver stone seems naive most of the time and he could have prepared a bit more in how to formulate his questions to put Vlad a bit more in the heat but his research on him is not that bad. It has been delightful to watch this Russian manlet with his witty rhetoric convince many that he's a victim when all he does is to protect is own ass behind his courageous nationalism which comes legit in appearance but doesn't fit the reality of the socio-economic Russian population.

>>130105249
I never said they love him for doing that. Basically the only news in Russia is state run or owned by oligarchs that are pro-Putin. They don't talk about it. They're not gonna air stuff that's anti-Putin.

>>130105545
>thinks his comment proves it wasn't a power grab.

The truth is a couple months after the American revolution was won, the parasitic globalist banker class came over anyway, and began the slow process of converting the country into Hell Prison

Putin doesn't allow GMO's,
Chemtrails or poison vaccines on his people.
He also got baptized Christian when Russia was communist and being Christian was against the law.
And yes, I believe him to be the most sane on the world stage.

>>130105577
hahaha

>>130105957
You do know that a lot of Europe banned GMOs too? It's a pointless comment to make.

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>>130087361
shit am I late to the thread?

>>130105696
Yes, that's what it means. Go do some reading kiddo, before you try to discuss things on /pol/ again.

>>130105652
>Basically the only news in America is state run or owned by 'moguls' that are pro-Neocon.

fix'd

>>130105957
>Putin cares about his ppl
hhahahaha

>>130106103
Europe did, but trade agreements seek to pry the GMO door back open every time someone isn't looking.

>>130087604
дa

>>130105294
I don't think anybody is contesting that. Still, he is working within the constitutional framework of the Russian Federation, which stipulates that the president cannot serve more than two consecutive terms.

I don't think anybody is seriously contesting the nature of their 'democracy', but he isn't exactly a textbook dictator that seized power in a violent revolution or coup d'etat.

Even further on that point, if he were massively unpopular, he would have been deposed early in the game by the oligarchs and/or the military.

What would be a fairer assessment, if you're not content calling him a "president", is calling him a chief oligarch in an oligarchy.

Now, getting into the subject of modern democracies and oligarchy is where all of our democratic systems start to look a bit shambolic.

>>130106176
Sorry, I forgot this was a pro-Putin thread.

The people chose glorious Marxism and revolution. Yadda, yadda.

>>130105652
>Complains about muh lacking freedumbz of press in russia
>In 2017
>In fucking 2017
>Era of western literal fake news where CNN is a swear word
JUST
U
S
T

>>130106176
Most actual news in the US comes from AP or Reuters, which are jusy information based without opinion. Even CNN, ABC, and FOX take their actual news from them. The partisan stuff is clearly marked OPINION on most publications. Stop talking out of your ass.

>>130106500
who really cares about semantics, even Putin realizes it's who wins and loses.

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>>130105957
>>130106378
>muhh GMOs are scary because i failed biology class

>>130106539
What does CNN have to do with lack of press freedom in Russia?

>>130106500
>Still, he is working within the constitutional framework of the Russian Federation
lol, he made it meaningless by remaining in power. You act like laws and constitutions can't be made into bullshit and they are divine documents or something. It's just paper to prop up those in power.

>>130087361
>smeks
calls snowden human rights acticist
offers asylum to comey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IZDiDurZdc

>>130106743
Yes, that's why I said, twice, that nobody is contesting the contention that he is behaving as a dictator.

>>130088558
Do you realize how gay & stupid you sound?

>>130106723
Absolutely jack fucking shit, you've been the target of a classic whataboutist rhetorical fallacy by Putin fanboys.

>>130106636
>The partisan stuff is clearly marked OPINION on most publications.
This has largely fell apart in most major news media. There is little difference between opinion and "news" now. Most news is mostly opinion.

>>130090025
Test

>>130106722
If your muh corporate genetics are so good and beneficial, then forever and irrevocably give up your muh intellectual property rights over them. Otherwise you're just another evangelical shitball who thinks they have a right to create a property right where there previously was none.
Kill yourself, corporate shill. I really mean it.

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>>130088558
TFW YWN get to sit cozy and watch Stanley Kubrick's"Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb" with Vladimir Putin

Why even live desu?

Is the ultimate pill that most of anon are closet fags?

>>130107136
Suck my dick commie, it's the only food you're gonna get while you're waiting in the bread line.

>>130107120
fail

>>130107048
Either way, even if you think CNN or whatever is garbage, you have easy access to pro-Trump outlets if you prefer, like Breitbart, which is one of the most read news sites. You can't really say the same in Russia.

Why do any of you put this much trust in Putin anyway

You're following him as blindly as the left follows Hillary

Don't be sheep, this /pol/ for fuck sake

Russian media makes new-wave American media look like school kids. I had a student-worker job some twenty years ago at a univeristy teaching conversationlational English. Got me and them "woke" way back when. I wanted to know why they were always angry. They wanted to know why I smiled at everything.

>>130106636
Having worked in a newsroom for the better part of ten years, it is true that the majority of news comes in on "wires" direct into the newsroom software.

It's then the editor and director's discretion as to what they include. Additionally, the news wires are generally used for anything that isn't covered within the locale of the newsroom.

So, say your newsroom is in Washington, and you're covering federal politics, the wires more or less become totally irrelevant as you have the boots on the ground to cover that content yourself.

Additionally, while the news wires (AP and Reuters) cover a HELL of a lot of content from all over the world, it's clear that editorial decisions are made at a higher level on what is released to the newrooms. Mainly due to the sheer scale of content that could be reported, but at some point an editorial decision is made about what "is" news and what "isn't". A chief editor makes that call.

>>130107309
So that's a "no" on IPR renunciation?

>>130107318
>Either way, even if you think CNN or whatever is garbage, you have easy access to pro-Trump outlets if you prefer, like Breitbart, which is one of the most read news sites.
Those are my choices? Being lied to or being shamelessly lied to? Telling me "Russia is worse" doesn't improve my lot either.

America news media is like North Korean, only messier and with Doritos commercials.

>>130106723
>>130107002
Lol
>Being this BRAINDEAD
In the sense that western press is in an even worse state. There is absolutely no freedom of press here
Contrary to Russia where the press is controlled by government, which at least pretends to care for it's people, it's controlled by corporations headed by Kikes, who have their own gloablist agenda.

NORMIES get the fuck out , you're embarrassing

>>130107763
Holy fuck. In the US you have your choice of whatever you want. You can't say the same in Russia. Russian press is not better. It's literally a mouthpiece for Putin.

>>130107729
There's more. I'm just saying you actually have choice.

>>130107640
That is true. But it still beats Russian press.

>>130106723
there is no point in having a free press in 2017, too many lies and propaganda is everywhere, you can't really find anything outside a few lone wolfs journalists
trust, brazil ''free media'' is shit, their opinion is led by money and propaganda for the cattle

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>>130107691
>How dare Monsanto copyright a corn seed formula
>It's like, nature man
>It should be like, everybody's right to use it
>Fuck corporations n shiett for doing research and trying to make a profit off ideas
>IDEAS ARE FREE MAN

>>130087604
Nice trap commie faggot

>>130108150
It's more that journalism has become lazy these days and relies a bit on wires, but mostly on PA agencies and "social media" reporting.

Due in part to cost-cutting and massively lower revenues, but also because why bother doing the hard work of finding out for yourself, when it's spoon feed to you, apparently, from the source.

And we all know how easy it is to manipulate social media "storms", media reactions, and then political pandering.

>>130087361
Questionable.

1) The camera work is abysmal. The parts where Putin is clearly giving straight answers but not the ones that Stone wants to hear the camera moves all around to make you think he's uncomfortable.

2) There are quite a few things that he has done that are clearly very good. (Clamping down on unregulated monopoly, raising the poverty level, keeping their debt low, etc) But he's very obviously just as much of a liar as every other world leader. He has an agenda and it's tough to tell what it is.

3) There are a few scenes in there where you get to see him genuinely uncomfortable. I found this very interesting. I'd like to see Stone catch him in some lies and see what is really going on there or get a window into his agenda.

In summary, I could see why Trump would admire him and how his (at least superficial) plan quite similar to what Trump seems to have promised.

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>>130108279
Again, if GMOs are so inherently beneficial, why can't they sell themselves? Why do they need gene PATENTS (not copyrights, PATENTS) and tons of paperwork to generate repeat custom? Why do they need to use trade agreements to force their way into countries that don't want them?
Are you going to kill your corporate cum-gargling self yet? When will you be starting the livestream?

>>130096309
nice

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>>130108074
>There's more. I'm just saying you actually have choice.
I've been reading the news for years and years and in the past five years I've seen a complete degradation of the quality, ethics, truthfulness, objectivity, easy access to information, and content of American news.

All I see now is astonished bimbos with makeup, snorting about their opinion. I read news articles written by venomously biased college grads who do their journalistic "research" on twitter before they turn an important article into their personal fucking blog. It takes me hours to read very little news.

All I have left is to watch these cunts talk on CSPAN because they think no one is listening. But honestly, I don't have the time to watch those bastards in our government shamelessly plot and arrogantly speak for hours and hours.

When it comes to getting news in America I am defeated. I used to be "informed" and now it's impossible. So much for choice. What a crock of shit.

>>130108686
The issue with those GMOs is that they've been deliberately created to not be able to reproduce, forcing the buyers to be reliant on one source to get a crop that will have higher yields.

From the seller's perspective, it makes total financial sense. For the buyer, it's a death warrant. It's got nothing to do with their organic safety, but more the farmers getting screwed down the line.

If you invented a new kind of dragon dildo that did nothing like anything on the market, you'd also patent it. It's the same with GMO crops.

GMOs can be made beneficial, so long as they're given the ability to reproduce.

>>130104544

Yes, but what did he mean by this? :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at56A5eg3vs

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>>130106636
>Most actual news in the US comes from AP or Reuters, which are jusy information based without opinion.

Why do they never report on the US-backed Jihadists in Syria then? Or the "refugee" terrorists. Almost all media only reports "just information", but that doesn't make them neutral. What matters is which information you show, and which you omit.

>>130108074
>Holy fuck. In the US you have your choice of whatever you want. You can't say the same in Russia. Russian press is not better. It's literally a mouthpiece for Putin.

>Unironcally believing this

Spot the CNN lemming
Lemme guess you just parrotted whatever Wapo CNN or Fix said about freedumbz of press in russia right?

Have you ever been to to Russia?
Of course not you sheltered retards.

They literally have leftist Kikes spouting their agenda and swinign shit at Putin 24/7
And that on national TV .
See the TV network "dozhd" or "radio svoboda"

>>130088578
This. He knows it'll make him look good, and he's playing a really good part.

>>130109222
what this picture trying to prove?

>>130108279
>Defending the biotechnical archjew
Just neck yourself you hopeless ZOGcuck

>>130109109
This and mono-cropping is simply dangerous.

Look at the banananananaananana. They mono-cropped bananananas like...forever. Back in the like...50s or something some fungus killed literally every single tree of the the strain they were selling so they made a shittier hybrid and sell that now. Now the same fucking shit is happening again.

So, we'll probably have an even SHITTIER bananananana in 5-10 more years once all the current trees die off and we'll have learned fuckall.

>>130087361
>Offers Comey asylum

The absolute fucking
S A V A G E R Y
A
V
A
G
E
R
Y

>>130109156
that one's a classic

I don't care much for "president for life" Putin, but I can respect him as an adversary. I know he is a dangerous man not to be taken lightly.

>>130109109
>The issue with those GMOs is that they've been deliberately created to not be able to reproduce, forcing the buyers to be reliant on one source to get a crop that will have higher yields.
Terminator is one problem. Farmers that save seeds from crops that don't self-terminate risk forfeiture and damages.
Honestly, I probably wouldn't.
>>130109359
I thought Svoboda were right-wing kikes in alignment with Pravy Sektor?
>>130109488
Fuck it. Beat the rush and switch to plantains.

>>130109670
Svoboda is libshit Kikes who of course support their fellow (((,tribesmen)))) since Pravy Sector is headed by the Arch Kike with the name of Yarosh


Do you sincerely thing goyim dichtionomies of left vs right override blood for the chosen people?
If you do you're a retard

>>130109670
Well....there are other "GMO" related issues that we have here.

For instance, Monsanto makes their corn seeds resistant to "Round-Up" brand pesticide (which conveniently they also make) so you can spray all your shit with weed killer and pesticide and it doesn't kill their corn.

Well if you're a neighbor farm and you DON'T monocrop with monsanto, then the monocrop farm next to you just kills all your shit with the insane quantity of overspray round up they put on their farm. So, it basically is FORCED mono cropping.

So, if something kills the monsanto corn, it will pretty much kill ALL the corn.

>>130109918
Nah, I just hadn't heard all that much about Svoboda at all, not even very much at the beginning of the Ukraine coup when they were supporting militants of some or other stripe. Thanks for enlightment.
>Do you sincerely thing goyim dichtionomies of left vs right override blood for the chosen people?
Of course not. I've been here for at least a month.
>>130110128
I hadn't thought of herbicide drift. Wow. GMO really is a pollutant on so many levels.

>>130110128
>>130109488
Yeah, glad we're in agreement here and it's not a goddamn hippy debate about GMOs being toxic, but a more ethical point about the GMO creators trying to monopolize.

>>130087361
certainly seems to be -A- redpill

Putin should offer asylum to Hillary and Obama

>>130099499
This.

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>>130110342
You're confusing soem things altough you are on the right track
Ukraine svoboda party is also a kike led movement but different from Radio Svoboda a Jewish (openly) Media outlet in Russia, unsurprisingly they support each other

Pic related

Radio Svoboda is the media outlaet that is pooing on the Pootin 24/7, something which a reasonable person must ask is possible in a supposedly ebil tRussia where all media is controlled by Pootin

Russia isn't a fairy tale but far from the complete twisted image liberals and Jews w force upon us

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alarming shit

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>>130087361
> America is actually an aggressive imperial state hiding behind the veil of a democratic republic.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. Do you think anything will be better off if Ivan or Chang took over?

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>>130087361
the doing all the interviewing is redpilled as fuck.
he named the jews during his appearance of the night show with Colbert, NBC edited out.
it was so cringy how the braindead audience would disrespectfully laugh at him whenever he wouldn't capitulate and say the Russia conspiracy was a legit thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6XQOD-7VhA

>>130088581

> dat feminine bulge muh leddit.

Oliver Stone thinks the Russia narrative is bullshit.
He was on Tucker Carlson tonight and Colbert last night basically saying it's all a farce to hurt Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlVM971Buxs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6XQOD-7VhA

>>130087361

Kinda.

Not nearly as benevolent as he comes across.

But that's the jist.

>>130111477
fuck i mean't CBS.
and yeah i think oliver stone was given the redpill by being around Putin so much

>>130111541
Don't worry it's just a joocey puffy poosay :^)

>>130111771
Best part of the first hour

Thank you for cap.
Saved

>>130111696
We must find the edited out part when he names the Jew. Its got to be somewhere.

>"""Stone"""
>(((Stein)))
No, of course I will not watch it. Fuck kikes

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>>130111016
thanks senpai
>>130111444
I'ma hafta check that rare artifact
Bend over and spread 'em
Anyway, to answer your question, at least it wouldn't be an imperial state anymore.

>>130091007
This, basically.

>>130111887
It's all yours my dixie

>>130090025
whoever did this editing and camera work deserves death

completley ruined the fucking interview holy shit, it's unbearable

>>130096309
>Western press... Silent.

Why do you guys always lie? Normally I'd give the benefit of the doubt since you're quite ignorant, but this is something that can be easily verified. At least it makes it easy for intelligent people to see how wrong you are.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40292739
>Russia's president has joked he could offer asylum to former FBI chief James Comey if he runs into trouble for leaking recorded conversations with the US president to the press.

Inb4 "Great Britain isn't part of the West!"

>>130087361
>It made me realize that Putin is the only sane leader on the planet, that Russia isn't the bad guy and that America is actually an aggressive imperial state hiding behind the veil of a democratic republic.

The truth is somewhere in the middle on both sides and you'd be a fool to truth either government unequivocally.

>>130087361
You ever see a commie drink water? No, they drink vodka. We must protect our natural bodily fluids.

>>130111894
from: https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10529/oliver-stone-response-to-being-laughed-at-for
When film director Oliver Stone could not come up with a plausible response to Stephen Colbert's tough questions about why he gave a pass to Vladimir Putin for trying to influence the American presidential election, Stone resorted to an age-old bigotry: blame the Jews – or, in its current incarnation, shift the blame to the nation state of the Jewish people, Israel. Colbert was interviewing Stone about his new documentary, "The Putin Interviews" – a film comprised of conversations he had with the Russian president over the past two years. The exchange regarding Israel did not make it to air but was relayed to the New York Post's Page Six by a source who was in the audience.

When pressed by Colbert about his apparent fondness of the Russian dictator, Stone replied: "Israel had far more involvement in the U.S. election than Russia." He then said again, "Why don't you ask me about that?" Colbert responded: "I'll ask you about that when you make a documentary about Israel!"

If Stone's absurd response were not reflective of a growing anti-Semitism by the intolerant hard left (of which Stone is a charter member) it would be laughable. Indeed, Stone resorted to the "socialism of fools" (which is what German Social Democrat, August Bebel, coined anti-Semitism) precisely to save face because he was being mockingly laughed off stage by Colbert's audience for giving Colbert ridiculous answers. Some of Stone's bizarre pronouncements included:

"I'm amazed at his [Putin's] calmness, his courtesy...he never really said anything bad about anybody. He's been through a lot. He's been insulted and abused." Stone also expressed his "respect" for Putin's leadership. But no answer was more ridiculous than his bigoted claim that Israel did more to try to influence the election than Russia.

>>130112648
We know for certain that Russia (and that means Putin) desperately wanted Hillary Clinton to lose. We know that their surrogates timed leaks to cause maximum damage to her campaign. All of our intelligence agencies, in a rare show of unanimity, concluded that Russia went to great lengths to try to defeat Clinton.

What did Israel do? Stone hasn't said. He just let the blood libel hang out there for other bigots, so they could say, "See, we knew the Jews were behind this; they always are." There was an old Polish expression that said: if there is a bad outcome, the Jews must be behind it. Indeed, throughout history the last recourse of desperate bigots has been 'blame the Jews.' The modern version – pervasive among the hard left– is blame their nation-state, Israel.

>>130112692

The reason Stone did not provide any proof of his anti-Semitic accusation is because there is none. It simply is not true. Israel did not try to influence this election. The Israeli government took no position and its leaders were probably divided, as were its citizens, concerning the desired outcome. Prime Minister Netanyahu, for his part, remained neutral, emphatically stating before the election that he was "happy to work with whoever gets elected."

Moreover, American Jews voted overwhelmingly in favor of Clinton. To be sure, some, such as Sheldon Adelson, contributed to Trump, but others, including many strong supporters of Israel, contributed heavily to Clinton. I would not be surprised if even in the face of Adelson's huge contributions, more money from Jewish sources was contributed to Hillary Clinton's campaign, but no one keeps track of such matters.

It is important to note that this is not an isolated incident. Stone's bigotry towards Jews and their nation state is well documented. He has said that, "Hitler did far more damage to the Russians than [to] the Jewish people."

And then argued that this fact is largely unknown because of "the Jewish domination of the media...there's a major lobby in the United States. They are hard workers. They stay on top of every comment, the most powerful lobby in Washington." He continued to say: "Israel has f***** up United States foreign policy for years."

Moreover, Stone has also stated that, "Hitler is an easy scapegoat throughout history" and expressed affection for Cuban dictator, Fidel Castro, whom he called "a great leader."

>>130112734

Clearly, there was no legitimate reason for Stone to bring up Israel in the context of a dialogue regarding Russia's interference in the U.S. presidential election. By ducking questions about Putin and Russia, and then bizarrely accusing Israel of wrongdoing, Stone engaged in an old trope: blaming Jews – or the nation state of the Jewish people –for far reaching domestic political issues in foreign countries. By morphing the discussion about Putin's untoward history of suppressing the press, killing political opponents, and engaging in cyber attacks against the U.S., into a polemic against Israel, Stone displayed his own bias.

The essence of anti-Semitism is the bigoted claim that if there is a problem, then Jews must be its cause. This is the exact canard peddled by Stone — and is extremely dangerous if unrebutted. I challenge my old friend (and co producer of Reversal of Fortune – the film based on my book) to debate me on the following proposition: did Israel do more to influence the 2016 election than Russia? If he agrees, he will once again be laughed off the stage.

Alan M. Dershowitz is the Felix Frankfurter Professor of Law, Emeritus, at Harvard Law School

>>130112761
holy kek the audacity of this Jew

>>130087361
Sheds more light in the whole Ukraine situation. Nothing more out of it that pol does not understand already. Putin comes off as a very calculating rational person in his decision making process by the impression he gives off answering the questions.

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>>130087361

how is the weather in Moscow, comrade?

>>130088558

jeebus h christ. the man is a cold blooded killer. ted bundy had charisma too.

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>>130112980
The puppetmaster pulling Merkel's strings.

>>130105577
Fuck off reddit.
Copy post this to reddit to get upvotes from redditor numales who don't know any better.

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>>130089547

>>130112159
it was academy award winner oliver stone

>>130091007
>t that doe

i remember Stone's movie about South America praising Chavez, he was pretty wrong about that dude

>>130107318
Jesus Christ dude -you really don't know about Russian Jew channels where they shit on Russia 24/7?

It makes sense that you don't because you don't know shit about Russia -as you know is fucking liberal propaganda.

I don't get that. How can a person be so convinced on having all the facts without entering the country there shitting on.

>>130087361
The dude is far more competent than 95% of American leaders. Can you imagine if we transplanted a man of his strategic ability, intelligence, and aggression into our own political system (i.e. he was born and raised here, but had same personality)?

>>130088581
>>130096309
>feminine hands
>feminine face
>perfectly rounded bulge
That is a horny female friends

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>Putin is based

>>130111606

is Stone now kompromatted by Putin's army of Lolis like Trump was?

>>130109359
Those channels gave me beautiful memories of my father yelling antisemetic slurs at the tv.

Im born redpilled

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>>130087361
The most important part is when Putin mentions that despite the repeated transition of US presidents, the foreign policy remains unchanged. He mentioned Bush's disapproval of the CIA supporting terrorists of Chechnya, and Clinton proposing that Russia join NATO, yet despite this the foreign policy and intelligence community's attitude towards Russia did not change.

The documentary also brought up many crucial redpills, e.g. the US promising not to expand NATO or arming terrorists in Russian territory, that the vast majority of people still don't know about. Spread this documentary to everyone you know while it's still up on YouTube.

>>130088571
Link faggot

holy shit Putin BTFO the DNC

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>>130087361
watching episode one. Putins a decent guy. its pretty obvious hes lying about some of these questions though.

>>130114400

>>130090025

ctrl+f jewtube next time my dude.

>>130114400
Posted earlier like 4, times you lazy blind rat


Also currently at the Homosexual Question in part 2
Fucking g hell this apex manlet demolishes homo propaganda

>We want children to grow up WITHOUT outside ((((influence))) on their unenebolved brains
Based
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>>130114660
>>130114660
>Poltard sitting behind a screen in his trousers
>Thinks he can spot a trained KGB agen,specifically in how to circumvent all lie detector test, even under tortureex agent ,lying

>>130114660
Like what? It seems he prefers to speak obliquely instead of outright lie, unlike Clinton or McCain.

>>130113897
Makes perfect sense.
Lurk mooore

Holy shit Putin btfos the us so hard it's sad

>I consider it my duty to uphold traditional and family values

Fucking hell this is based as fuck
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp3qF-3ebEI
From 20th minute

>>130115557
EDIT:
Fuccc
Homos btfo so hard
From 21:00 minute
Ahahaahahaaahahaa
Best thing I saw this week

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>>130115538
The American elite think they can do anything and get away with it. They're drunk with power. Hence their actions are completely indefensible. Reminds me of Toynbee's idea of the formation of a "dominant minority" at the end of a civilization, in this case Western civilization:

>The growth phase of a civilization is led by a creative minority with a strong, self-confident sense of style, virtue and purpose.
>The uncreative majority follows along through mimesis, “a mechanical and superficial imitation of the great and inspired originals.”
>In a disintegrating civilization, the creative minority has degenerated into elites that are no longer confident, no longer setting the example.
>Among other reactions are a “lapse into truancy” (a rejection, in effect, of the obligations of citizenship), and a “surrender to a sense of promiscuity” (vulgarizations of manners, the arts, and language) that “are apt to appear first in the ranks of the proletariat and to spread from there to the ranks of the dominant minority, which usually succumbs to the sickness of `proletarianization.'”

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>>130109419

Oh, so much jew hatred whenever Putin comes up again. May he and his progeny continue to enslave jews for the next thousand years.
He submitted all these kikes in Russia and whenever they see him they are reminded that there is only one god they have to submit to and it isn't YHWH.

>>130109419
The dusty girl was supposedly pulled out of rubble three times, in separate photo ops.

>>130111477
fuck this kike Colbert, god these Jews are always trying to push their narrative

if you havent watched this you should right now he fucking destroys The US. Did anyone know we had a nuclear forces exercise planned with the russian military for 9/12/2001 that got canceled b/c of the sept 11th attacks?

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merkel and mcCain get a shout out in episode 1. Liberals will refuse to watch this.

>>130109222

>Almost all media only reports "just information", but that doesn't make them neutral. What matters is which information you show, and which you omit.

You're good at what you do, m8.

>>130115049
Edit:
First Putin lie
>They were no conflict bewteen Islam in Christians in our history
Yea no.
Ethnic cleansing of Russian kuffar in the Caucasus that set off the Caucasus wars didn't exist.
Caucausus wars in the 18th century in response to shitskin pillaging and constant raids didn't exist.
Crimean khaganate toppling for being a Muzzie plague upon Christians didn't exist

What I don't like about Pootin is his Islam apology

Fuck off Pootin
Shame because other views are based as fuck

>>130113145
Underrated, Putin could probably kill a womans children in front of her and not give a shit

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Putin is such a cuck.

Can't send in the cavalry after Navalny.

Putinfriends, please go back to rebbit.

>>130117410
Merkel is a jew, her birth name was "Kasner", which is a jewish name in Germany.
After her first marriage she kept the name Merkel from her husband, and until recently no one in Germany ever knew that her name was Kasner.
She's a kike, no wonder why no German can understand the way she acts against the interests of Germans.

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>>130117150
It's pretty obvious the Jews are doing the same thing they always do. Seek and destroy and enact "vengeance" on those who would dare to protest their goyim enslavement by their kike overlords. The Jews are mad Russia kicked them out. Just like they're mad about Germany kicking them out. Just like they're mad about Italy and Greece kicking them out of Judea.

It's so obvious to see why they are pushing this anti-Russia agenda here in the United States. Russia is a primarily white Christian nation with relative power which opposes their homosexual anti-Christian, anti-European agenda. Sure Russia isn't perfect by any metric but the Jews fucking hate that Russia isn't completely controlled by them. And so they want to go to war with them and they will use the last remaining white males here in the US to die to fulfill their NWO agenda.

>>130089835
Also, she could have all her fluffy pewbs

>>130117610
its pretty intriguing though dont you think. Hes a charismatic speaker, reminds me of nigel when he rails on nato in the end

>>130117782
Navalny is controled opposition ;^))

>>130117798
Funny thing is, the Jews love Putin for being the least anti-semitic leader in nearly 100 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB7kh-dkhLk

But kikes hate him because >BLAMPF HERP DERP.

>>130117798
theres a part where he talks about the IMF, Putin makes a point to say hes paid back the debt of russia and all its memeber nations, to include 16 billion for crimea...


Show time offers a 1 week free trial, if you havent used it yet id use it for this, binge or record it the cancel.

>>130118068
Just fucking watch it on YouTube. There is like 5 different uploads of both parts right now.

>>130118068
What are you trying to say? Maybe he is trying to appease them so they will leave Russia alone.

You can't honestly tell me they are friends with Russia or Putin, just look at the American MSM and their propaganda. We were literally on the verge of war with Russia at the end of Obama's term. If we had Hillary, it would have probably happened.

>>130118008
He basically expelled all the backstabbing dirty kikes and fully submitted the rest, they now praise him like a god over there.
In the West on the other hand, we haven't submitted our kikes like he did.
These kikes hate him because Putin might give our leaders ideas on how to deal with them and it clearly shows when you read/watch MSM.
Every single fucking article hating on Putin in the West is written by a jew, which is especially significant in Germany and Austria, since here we have much less jews in the media than you guys in the US.
Jews oligarchs even started to convert to Christianity under Putin, for they know that there will be no place at top for jews.

>>130111166
Would go against most modern government security policies. But I guess they could make sales to third-world countries.

>>130118487
>which is especially significant in Germany and Austria, since here we have much less jews in the media
so the holocaust is not a lie after all

>>130118441
To be fair, we should probably still go to war since he made a mockery of our democratic elections.

>>130118707
Fuck off shill, you can die for the kikes yourself.

>>130118441
Im saying not only is Russia aware of that but if you watch it Putin almost flat out says theyre rdy and planning on it.

>>130118692
Oh my dear jewish friend, you have a great future ahead of you.