Why not tax food that makes people obese? Solve two problems at once.

I could get behind this... I really hate fat people

How would that help? It only gives government more money to steal or squander on useless spending.

We should weigh people at the counter and if they're over a certain weight then charge them more. That way i don't have to pay more because some fatty can't control themselves.

>>130084107
Taxing things doesn't do anything but further fill the pockets of useful bureaucrats, why else do people still smoke cigarettes?

>>130084107
I unironically support this. Even though I agree the government has no business sticking its nose into ppls private lives.

Here, they made smoking harder and more expensive to do year after year. Over time, people quit. Eventually, I did too. Thank God.

Sometimes, the ends justify the means.

File: test.png (42KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 640x480px

>>130084107
please no

>>130084546
Because fuck fat people... The money should go to a health care pool for people that aren't over a certain bmi.

Any food can make people obese. Food is calories. Calories can turn into fat. You can lose fat regardless of what you eat. Even if you exclusively eat chocolate cake, you will invariably lose weight if you eat the proper amount of calories which matches your lifestyle. Sumo wrestlers get fat by eating rice. Poor peasants are scrawny and eat the same rice, except less.

>>130084107
First off that doesn't make you fat, so youre taxing things off feelings, not facts right off the bat. Then what about people with good genes who stay fit and active and want to eat that. Then ~70% of it will get wasted on inefficiencies and overpaid administration. Then that remaining ~30% will probably go to some other meme government program where it wastes even more to accomplish a questionable objective.

Sounds great

File: 1497553218401.jpg (124KB, 600x1000px) Image search: [Google]

124KB, 600x1000px

>>130084107
NO

>>130084107
Fast food does have tax though

>>130084704
>useful bureaucrats

Oops, useless* bureaucrats. Freudian slip.

>>130085488
A few states/cities do, but most don't

fuck off /ck/

File: 1407290138067.jpg (44KB, 550x449px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 550x449px

>>130084107
>There is a problem!
>Let's tax it!
This shit is getting ridiculous. People can choose, and if they choose to be obese fucks, then that's fine by me. Just don't expect me to pay for their healthcare. Consider suicide.

>>130086207
>People can choose, and if they choose to cut off their dicks, eat shit and then kill themselves fucks, then that's fine by me
>Just don't expect me to pay
I agree that taxing fast food is retarded and I still think your lolbergs are fucking retarded.

>Food that makes people fat
People are fat due to a lack of self control.

File: drymac.jpg (24KB, 650x432px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 650x432px

>>130084107
Why not let people get obese and not have the government pay for their healthcare? The problem would sort itself out.

>>130085999
Oh. Here in Vegas it is. Thought that was all around.

>>130084107
why do you hate freedum

File: 1477369459811.jpg (29KB, 600x487px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 600x487px

>>130084107
>paying an extra 50 cents on my jug of soda

>>130084107
Taxing only hurts people. You should reward positive activity.

Those who weigh less should receive discounts for food at department stores or for medicare/medicaid coverage. Nobody is going to lose weight to save $.10 on a burger, but people sure as hell will to save $10k on a surgery.

File: 1483386208075.gif (337KB, 500x375px) Image search: [Google]

337KB, 500x375px

>>130084107
>Why not tax food that makes people obese?
why not tax the rich instead of holding the poor underfoot...?

>>130084107
Why not make healthy food cheaper it's like $1.00 for a burger and $8.00 for a fucking salad.

File: choice.jpg (130KB, 625x614px) Image search: [Google]

130KB, 625x614px

>>130086207
>People can choose
pick your poison

>>130084107
Because it doesn't make a difference. Any food will make you fat when you do literally zero exercise and eat all day while you play wow you fucking faggot.

File: NvW07go.png (600KB, 640x662px) Image search: [Google]

600KB, 640x662px

>>130086527
>expecting fat/poor pieces of shit to take personal responsibility

PAY MY HEALTHCARE!!!!!!

>>130084107
you'd just be taxing poor people.

side note you can't eat this garbage and be able to
work. each time i eat this trash i need a nap.


their chicken thing I'm good with but all red meat is
garbage food that gives you cancer and gout

File: twin towers maccas.png (83KB, 1190x1200px) Image search: [Google]

83KB, 1190x1200px

>>130086415
>sugar
>more addictive than cocaine (*empirical lab studies)
>is sidled into everything (e.g., "All-Bran" = 16.5% sugar)
>burgers hold W.H.O. to ransom (*should be 40gm per day intake -- burgers force W.H.O. to stick with "100gm")
>"fat goes in -> fat pokes out" Homer J. Simpson "nutritional knowledge" pollutes minds
>junk food indoctrinated into kids, from morning to night
>school canteens full of bilge
>junk food sponsors everything
>junk food dumpsters on every street corner
>home economics more arcane than hieroglyphics

self-control

File: fat_Cat_wtf.jpg (124KB, 960x960px) Image search: [Google]

124KB, 960x960px

>>130084633
>weigh people
sinew is x3 the density of fat -- what do?

>>130087698
Yes, self control. Things existing doesn't mean that you're incapable of exercising moderation, fatass.

File: drain_the_simpletons.jpg (225KB, 594x555px) Image search: [Google]

225KB, 594x555px

>>130084704
>Taxing things doesn't do anything
shabbat, moshe!

>>130084107
>i need the goberment to tell me what to eat

everyone in favore of this should be executed emediatly

free market nigger

>>130084107
Why Mcdonalds don't put objectively superior pork meat from their McMuffins into the burgers?

File: 1491370860234.jpg (2KB, 125x117px) Image search: [Google]

2KB, 125x117px

>>130084818
>Even though I agree the government has no business sticking its nose into ppls private lives.
yet, they watch everything you do, do whatever they want and even literally dictate who you can fuck and marry, and when

>>130087698
take your fat ass to the gym and quit making excuses

File: 2Bc0823.png (478KB, 610x266px) Image search: [Google]

478KB, 610x266px

>>130084107

Why eat that shit in the first place?

File: f7nKu.jpg (95KB, 741x663px) Image search: [Google]

95KB, 741x663px

>>130087876
>Yes, self control.
therefore, why not legalise all drugs then... and all military grade firearms... and let people create religious ghettos... and let everyone govern themselves...

...because, you know -- "self-control"

Tax fat people, not the food

File: an_hero_selfie_stick.jpg (32KB, 480x475px) Image search: [Google]

32KB, 480x475px

>>130088189
>asinine ad homs to anons

>>130088190
Pink slime-into-nuggests is a fake meme. There was a lawsuit over it.

>>130088325
this

>>130084107
((((they)))) cause obesity deliberately.
have you seen healthcare costs in the US?
the cause of obesity is well known to everyone but the retarded masses.

>>130084107
if taxation wasn't theft...
but it is.
Instead. How about everyone is responsible for themselves and pay for their own consequences for their own actions.
Less government, less taxes.
Lefty tier logic.

whoa we have custom flags now?

>>130084107
but it's so cheap to produce

>>130084107
>things Rush Limbaugh predicted way back in the 90's when they were pushing Hillarycare.

>>130084107
What exactly am I looking at here goys?

>>130084107
What the fuck is even going on there.

>>130088190
>implying thatchicken is somehow disgusting because it's ground into a paste before becoming a nugget

Literally who gives a fuck thats like saying hamburgers are disgusting because theyre ground beef

>>130084107
None of the fast food or junk food companies would allow it. Their word is worth more than any health advocate.

File: Disgusting.jpg (159KB, 621x621px) Image search: [Google]

159KB, 621x621px

>>130084107

>>130084107

who gives a shit about the obese

just dont give free healthcare to obese related illnesses, solved

File: 1354213115909.jpg (224KB, 444x270px) Image search: [Google]

224KB, 444x270px

>>130088732

>Implying McDonalds is food.

>>130086415

Came here to say this. There's no such thing as a "food that makes you fat."

File: us_cordon_bleu.jpg (64KB, 696x513px) Image search: [Google]

64KB, 696x513px

>>130088190
>Why eat that shit in the first place?
taste is malleable -- if it weren't, all cultures would eat identical foods

you can acquire a taste for literal SHIT, if you force it down enough

>grandfather
>magyar
>owned farm + convenience store
>russki slav slimes enter hungary
>confiscate hard-earned wares
>send him to gulag (3 years)
>lives off of potatoes and water
>returns
>feast prepared in celebration
>eats only potatoes

that, and it's all about DOPAMINE:
>dopamine is the pleasure chemical that governs everything we do
>low dopamine = depression = an her0
>sugar releases a rush of this stuff
>hence, it addicts people
>put sugar in everything (be it perceptively sweet or otherwise)
>get plebe peons hooked
>hooked plebes buy your shit
>profit

g[ood]g[oy]

>>130084107
There's no possible way to do it unless you tax individual ingredients some how. Even if that did happen manufacturers and retailers would find a way around it.
Millions of people who eat fast food rarely, occasionally or frequently aren't obese. It would be unconstitutional at very least based on the 14th IIRC.

>>130084107
Christ. How the fuck do people eat this shit?

>>130088325

Also, THIS

>taxes

no.

File: amerifat_beautification.gif (1MB, 320x180px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 320x180px

>>130088427
>Pink slime-into-nuggests is a fake meme.
>There was a lawsuit

pick one

>implying "pink slime" is the most poisonous shit the FDA allow into burger sustenance sludge

>>130084107
>food that makes people obese
So... every kind of food?

File: wtf_aisan_skater.jpg (8KB, 164x138px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 164x138px

>>130086716
>ingesting liquid sucrose / fructose because "thirsty" (kek)
>not because you want to an her0

>>130084107
why not put lethal poison in it

File: overalschijtaan.jpg (20KB, 475x359px) Image search: [Google]

20KB, 475x359px

>>130084107
>More taxes
>Tax normal people too when they use in moderation
>Fat "people" become poor and obese instead of just obese
>Fast food revenue declines, losing the jobs even niggers and other felons can do, with all sorts of consequences
>It makes you a socialist and someone who views citizens as children

Sure solved that problem, retard.

>>130084633
This would solve some of the problems, but it creates more: what about muscular people? I know very healthy people who weigh near 100kg. I think we should do what we did in the good old days: social ostracism so fatsos just get into shape or become an hero

>>130089381
are you this fucking gullible?

File: 1453634922561.jpg (138KB, 640x640px) Image search: [Google]

138KB, 640x640px

>>130087055
>Any food will make you fat when you do literally zero exercise
fuck off, kike disinfo agent

not all calories are created equal and you obtuse, sugar-shilling semites need to be gassed

File: us_cordon_bleu_2.jpg (42KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 640x480px

>>130089752
are you that fucking subnormal?

>>130084107
My state doesn't tax food bought from grocery stores or clothes. But it does tax fast food/restaurants. Granted you can buy super fattening food from a grocery store. But what you are suggesting is totally retarded because how would you determine what is making people obese.

>>130084107
any food in excess makes people obese, faggot

>>130084107
doesn't work
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty_tax

>>130084107
I'm so fucking sick of these land Wales driving up the premiums on the company insurance group...

File: self-substantiation.jpg (60KB, 652x359px) Image search: [Google]

60KB, 652x359px

>>130089741
>normal people

then do what you're doing anyway, by ingesting bile, card-carrying normie

>>130084107
Because there would go all of the McBux bring stuffed into their back pockets. C'mon goy...

>>130090037
>eat some fries every once in a while
>have to pay extra because Fat O'Lardass can't contain his gluttonous, disgusting mouth

Yeah nah m8

>>130084107

Christ you chimps are pathetic.

Is there a single thing on this planet you are capable of doing without having the government hold your hand?

File: kys.jpg (49KB, 480x640px) Image search: [Google]

49KB, 480x640px

>>130090006
>any food in excess makes people obese
>falling for the 'one pill / poison' to dupe them all meme

then go eat three, square Macca's meals a day for a year, and get back to us with your findings... you 3.14-D underwater chess-playing kike cock puppet... (or leave it in your will)

>>130084107
Fast food doesn't make people fat.

http://www.fathead-movie.com/

>>130084107
>Why not tax
aaaaaaaand dropped like a hot sack of shit

>Taxing anything

kys

File: big_mama's_hoochie.jpg (20KB, 258x273px) Image search: [Google]

20KB, 258x273px

>>130090297
>eat some fries every once in a while

this conversation is not about eating happy meal tranny fat fries once a month, smegma sent

your cancer will come too -- rest assured... save your derps for when your diagnoses comes in

>un-ironically implying that those who eat FOOD, will want to eat shit as a "treat"

File: vomit.jpg (82KB, 680x680px) Image search: [Google]

82KB, 680x680px

>ice cream with ketchup
All of my fucking vomit

File: 1463613572360.jpg (136KB, 565x803px) Image search: [Google]

136KB, 565x803px

>>130090414
>Is there a single thing on this planet you are capable of doing without having the government hold your hand?
no - because the very gov't that controls them, has dumbed them the fuck down

>literal autists who need their hands held, lest they devour each other together with their junk food

>>130084633
>muscular people eating shit food
Get /fit/ you dyel FAGGOT

>>130090706
autism

>>130084107
Why not just tax fat people more? Or hey, how about fat people pay more for insurance?

Guess what? Fatties already do pay more (although probably not nearly enough) for insurance.

The insurance problem just isn't fixable. Too many old people/fuckers that will wait until they need a transplant to get insurance. Not to mention doctors feel entitled to make a shit-ton just because they studied.

File: BBy5Nx6.jpg (62KB, 1019x657px) Image search: [Google]

62KB, 1019x657px

>>130090907
>tfw ketchup has more sugar (~50%) than ice cream (<30%)
>tfw burgers souse their already sugarised (((foods))) in the former, while blaming their toothless teenager diabetes on the latter

>>130084107
even the raw ingredients are processed

>>130090609
>>130090630
Social engineering through taxation worked on tobacco here in leafland, it would probably work on shitty food too.

File: small-penis.jpg (70KB, 1200x630px) Image search: [Google]

70KB, 1200x630px

>>130091052
>implying "muscular" automatically = healthy

you're projecting your rectal prolapse, cock squatting homo faggot

>>130084107

get rid of medicare would solve the problem faster, and you wouldn't be a fucking commie interfering with businesses

>>130091318
>being this much of a jew

File: poe-faced_among_the_tards.gif (2MB, 270x148px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 270x148px

>>130091080
>a
>fucking
>windmill

>>130090416
why are you being such a faggot? This idiot went from a normal diet to eating 3 a day. that was his failure. I've been eating fast once once a day for like 10 years now. I am 190, 6'5"

>>130084107
It's easy.. But muh freedom burgers would rather doom themselves than risk the profit of ze jews.

>>130091542
>20 posts

oh I see why you are being a faggot. FPH. how the fuck does this belong on /pol/? cause you said something about taxing people? well guess what faggot, I am not paying aus taxes so kys

File: 1391295727990.gif (12KB, 501x585px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 501x585px

>>130091454
Countries with universal healthcare have an incentive to make sure the population is healthy just on saving money alone.

>>130084107
What's going on here?

>>130084107
because food doesnt make people obese, lack of activity and over indulging makes ppl obese, i can go eat mcdonalds right now, a shit load of it, and i will never be obese

File: wtf_clint_eastwood.gif (1MB, 200x190px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 200x190px

>>130090019
>land Wales
>oblivious to unconscious, vicarious complaint about lack of basic public health care
>"First World" education / society
>"superpower"
>"freedom"

>>130084107


What the fuck is this

Heard Japan was going to do this.

Haven't read into if they actually did or what the results were.

Japan is skinny land, so it was likely going to be a preventative measure.

>>130084107
>Why not tax food that makes people obese?
In Canada they do, all 'prepared', 'packaged to eat on the go', and junk food and soda is taxed. Shit that's in the grey area (like a whole cooked and seasoned chicken from the supermarket) but still maybe healthy, gets the tax as well, just because liberal faggots love tax. I'm quite sure this doesn't prevent welfare skids from hitting up McDonald's on check day though

>>130091752
which is exactly why one should not have universal healthcare

>>130084107
whaaaaaaaat in the absolu motherfucking unbelivablely absolutely fuck

wuuuuuuuuu uh uh uhhhhhu uh uh uh uh AH uh ah uh ah uht the fuck

whhhhhaaaaaaaaaa uh uh uhhhh uh uh uhu uh uhhu uhu u ah auh ahu aht the fuuuuuuuck

>>130091924
>was

you fucking idiot they did this in like late 80's early 90s

File: good_one_dumbf.jpg (81KB, 475x540px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 475x540px

>>130091725
>cause you said something about taxing people?
where?

taxing won't do shit for those who are already hooked of pink slime -- they don't even WANT to be helped and are all already dead, anyway... so, fuck 'em

however, pushing those purveying the carcinogenic shit to perhaps recoil from inculcating infants to be junk food junkies, isn't not a bad thing

>"think of the children"
>poisons their bodies with (((food)))
>poisons their minds with jew sky-god worship
>poisons their lands with /pol/lution

gg

>>130084107
>Why not tax food that makes people obese
not food but soft drinks. make one coke cost 25 bucks.

Tax sugar.
Make obese people pay for their own health care out of pocket.
Don't allow obesity to be classified as a disability.
Make "feeders" criminally liable for abuse.
Make childhood obesity a potentially criminal offense where the parent is liable.
Give tax incentives for being healthy.

People are fat as fuck not because of portion sizes, not because of saturated fat, not because of transfat, or anything else. Its sugar. People consume absurd amounts of sugar every day. Type 2 diabetes would be ridiculously rare if it wasn't for the sugar industry.

The saccharine Jew is a drain on our society.

>>130084107
Hurts the economy and causes more jobless people on EBT. People on EBT get obese.

>>130092051
what? that makes no sense.

>>130084107
The fat people (and their "caretakers") you are targeting live off government assistance from their self inflicted disability and would not change their diet one bit.

Protip: caretakers for the obese get govt checks for living with the whales and taking care of them and by taking care of them I mean keeping them fat so they can keep collecting checks while paying no rent.

Pretty much disabled fat people should be left to be eaten alive by wild animals.

File: 1456810065887.jpg (15KB, 205x205px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 205x205px

>>130092051
...and be like Burgerland.

amidoinitrite, retard?

File: interadasting.jpg (52KB, 250x362px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 250x362px

>>130092418
>self inflicted disability
only in action -- not in inculcation

>shilling for junk food on an anonymous image board
>implying it's wholly the plebe's (((choice))) too become fat fiends

>>130092419
>...and be like Burgerland.
>is even worse got it has a shitty half assed form of universal healthcare at the moment
>Most obesity is not even white people, but hispanics and blacks on top

See if you remove certain groups things will get better.

>>130085737
>Freudian slip
commie loves the bourgeoisie

>>130084107

>let's make the garbage food more expensive without reducing the cost of actual good food

Great idea. But until flaming hot cheetos are less expensive than lettuce, Shantae ain't getting rid of that front butt.

File: image.jpg (41KB, 634x634px) Image search: [Google]

41KB, 634x634px

>>130084107
Taxation Is Theft, kekistani faggot.

>>130092392
If a country does have private health care, people will not pay for the unhealthiness of others.

>>130092829

aren't*

File: high_fuctose.png (324KB, 970x514px) Image search: [Google]

324KB, 970x514px

>>130092336
>not food but soft drinks
not [just] soft drinks -- SUGAR

>>130092363
I agree for the most part, but also make trans fats illegal. They only started getting used in the 50's. Guess when people started getting really fat?

burger is the backbone of the american economy

File: an_hero_jesus.jpg (24KB, 228x197px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 228x197px

>>130092749
>twisting everything into a race debate
>...again

A
WHITE
FUCKING
ARAB

>>130092848
if you don't like it you're free to leave

>>130092901

that can't be real.

>>130084107
All food can make you fat except some vegetables and all food is taxed dumbest thing I've read today

>>130084107

>tax food that makes people obese
>other food prices raised because they can
>all food more expensive

yeah nice idea faggot

Keep the government out of my food. Already Berkeley imposed a "soda" tax. Let the fatasses eat themselves to death.

>>130084107
>The answer is more taxes!
Fuck off, liberal.

healthy food is expensive as shit in burgerland. fix that first before screwing over poorfats even more.

>>130092901
>crustaceans

>>130084107
What if I'm not fat and I want a burger? Can I get an exemption or refund?

Why should I have to pay more just because some people are irresponsible?

>>130085170
You are scientifically illiterate if you believe calories in = calories out
It is, unfortunately, way more complex than that.

>>130088303
I don't see anything wrong with what you have said though.

>>130084107
Why you faggots always wanna tax shit? Leave it alone.

>>130084107
>supertax McDonalds
>McDonalds becomes a luxury expense
>politicians and other high-class officials eating burgers while regular folk have to eat carrots and celery but they're still fat because every product--LITERALLY EVERY FUCKING PRODUCT--causes an increase in body weight if you don't eat responsibly.

Are you going to start taxing eggs next? Bacon? Bread? Bread is fattening. Tax sugar while you're at it, even though sugar is essential for the human brain to function. Tax water, too, since the estrogen in the water supply causes increase in body fat around the stomach area.

Saged because you need to think before you post.

>>130094009
bacon, bread and sugar should be taxed

>>130094009
oh and eggs if they're not free range

>>130093593
>>The answer is more taxes!
This
>Liberals don't give a shit about anyone's health. It's a money making scheme to fund their degeneracy.

File: 1483259466799.png (169KB, 683x686px) Image search: [Google]

169KB, 683x686px

>>130084107
Why not just send fat people to concentration camps?

>>130084107
Good point take notes

>>130084107
Nature is self-regulating. People are part of nature. Given enough time, people will also self-regulate without the need for clumsy interference by some disconnected government.

>>130084107
Fuck you. I'm hungry now but I've drunk too much to drive to mcdonalds

For fuck sake four chans

>>130094617
lol
the government is that process

>>130084107
Tax people who are obese instead.

desu I'm pretty hooked on the McDonalds Jew since it's the only fast food place in my city with somewhat acceptable burgers (Burger King is utter shit)
and 1 simple (ham)burger like cheeseburger or chicken burger is only $1 there, so...

>>130094743
grab a kebab

>>130084704
smoking is a bad model for your argument. if obesity rates dropped the way smoking rates did that would be great

>>130094811
Free market, son.

>>130094617
>just give it time and let conditions worsen
>its totally fine with my no step on snek ideals
>who cares if hospitals become crowded and over all care worsens because the nation is burdened by millions of morbidly obese people for 100 years
>it'll just sort itself out eventually
>whatever happens in the mean time doesn't matter

Stop

>>130084633
This tbqh

>>130084107
It's already taxed...Every single thing in the world is taxed

>>130094743
>no McDonald's® home 3D printer
what year is it in bongistan?

>>130093096
did I violate your NAP? (Negroid Australian Pussy)

>>130094967
What arbitrary number of smokers is an acceptable amount to you?

File: soon.png (479KB, 580x653px) Image search: [Google]

479KB, 580x653px

>>130084107
Why not just tax everyone and have free healthcare?

>eating fast food more than once a month
>eating at restaurants more than twice a month

Cooking is gratifying and not terribly expensive if you're smart. What's your excuse?

>>130087698
yeah i remember the last time i ran out of donuts i sucked a guy off for $20 behind the wal-mart.

fuckin sugar, my guy.

>>130095350
>free healthcare in the state with a billion illegals

Surely nothing can go wrong. I fucking hate my state.

>>130095170
In PA (Reichsylvania) Clothing and Groceries are not taxable because they are considered necessities

Property is taxed though,
still trying to figure that one out

File: juicy burger.webm (2MB, 640x360px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 640x360px

It's one of these threads

>>130095305
fewer is betteer, obviously. same with useless fat fucks

>>130095487
Hes probably referring to some rat studies.
If rats are given the choice of drinking water with cocaine in it, or socializing with other rats, they'll choose to socialize.
Though if isolated they will drink the water until the OD and die.
When sugar water is used rats will choose to drink the water, abstaining from socializing with other rats.

Why not tax fat people? Or force them to woodcut?

>>130095856
>fewer

Than what?

>>130084107
>Why not tax food that makes people obese?
Because you are taxing healthy people who literally did nothing wrong for bad habit's of fatties. What need to be taxied is excessive weight directly.

>>130084546
this
>>130084633
That'll just encourage them to have kids and keep them skinny to order it.

>>130084107
>Why not tax food that makes people obese?
Because who and what is to say what things make you fat?

>>130084546
Tax food more and property and income less

>>130096122
than we have now.....it's not that hard to conceptialize, i swear.

>i dont care if ppl are fat so long as they dont decrease my qiality of life or cost me more money on healthcare

>i dont want the government to introduce policies that make some of the most obesity-enabling food more cost prohibitive for poor fat leaches

choose one

>>130088189
>take your fat ass to the gym and quit making excuses
Fat ass realistically can burn maybe 1000 calories through one day of training without heart attack. This is 3500-4000 per day total. He can easily eat 6000-8000 calories of high density food per day. tl;dr you can't out train compulsive eating.

>disproportionately punishes people of color
>muh disproprotionate
>muh regressive taxation
>muh people of colour

It shall never happen.

>>130096540
>than we have now.....it's not that hard to conceptialize, i swear.

So one person stops smoking cigarettes and there is a net loss of one person in the smoking industry. Do you stop now?

>>130095350
Cause we don't want to pay medical expenses for fat fucks too lazy to take care of themselves.

>>130085170
It should be based on nutrient density. That would make whole grain, meat and greens cheaper than refined sugar loaded garbage

ITT: Brainlets. utter retards


There is no such thing as food that makes you more obese.

There are calorie dense foods, but if that is all I ate that day, I wouldn't gain weight. I may in fact lose it.

>>130096666
checked

>>130096649
anti smoking policies and the insane tax have absolutely caused smoking rates to plummet at least indirectly. you must be in high school and dont remember 30 years ago to deny this. i would love to see the same thing happen with fatties

>>130096936
Again you will end up taxing food fro everyone. Just tax fat directly.

File: .png (267KB, 624x717px) Image search: [Google]

267KB, 624x717px

No.

>>130084107
They do tax food that makes people obese, fast food all is taxed. Here in California it's just barely below 10% tax even.

>>130093868
So what you're saying is that fat people's stomachs are nuclear power plants, able to change the amount of matter inserted through their disgusting maws?
You should post this in the energy conservation threads, it sounds like it could be an amazing power source.
Mass in - mass out = change in mass.

>>130096936
Fuck off you retarded chink. I asked you what number of smokers is an acceptable number, you say

>fewer
I ask fewer than what? (what number)
And you say
>fewer than we have now

>>130097094
>tax fat directly
>implying eating fat makes you fat

Russian education, everyone.

>>130084107
(((They))) want people to be sick and unhealthy.

>>130097094
so what would that be? a ''lifestyle'' tax? i cant think of any precedent for that and im sure it would be even more difficult to convince ppl thats ok than it would be to instate a micky chicky tax

>>130097329
ok. zero smokers is an acceptable number.

A big mac by itself does not make you obese. It's the 5 big macs you fat American fucks eat in one sitting.

May be a good way for the govt to make more dosh. But I doubt it would help with obesity, sin taxes never work.

>>130084107
I got a better idea. Democrats love raising taxes, they think taxes fix everything. Let's tax democrats. All registered democrats have 100% income tax.

You fuckers are missing the obvious.
Eating fattening food won't hurt.
Once in awhile.
>It's all or nothing with /pol tards.

>>130097632
There you go, I revealed you to be the sniveling little weasel I knew you were.

>>130084107
>solve two problems at once
I assume you mean fixing the debt and fixing obesity
but you wouldn't get both with this

>people stop eating junk bewcause tax too high
>debt unsolved

>people eat so much junk debt is fixed
>obesity rages on

File: HOW CAN ONE MAN BE SO FUCKING SMUG.jpg (62KB, 800x430px) Image search: [Google]

62KB, 800x430px

>>130097727
this thread is a pretty good testament to how stupid /pol/ can be about basic logic.

The only smart users in this thread are those pointing out that eating fast food or certain foods doesn't make you fat, it's the habit of over eating in general.

>>130085074
BMI has been outdated for for decades.

>>130097775
found the proud smoker

File: james.jpg (59KB, 901x509px) Image search: [Google]

59KB, 901x509px

>>130092666
>There are people in the world right now who actually believe obese people didn't have any choice in becoming morbidly obese and it's all just muh ebil corporations fault

I'm shilling for the freedom to eat what we like. Most people aren't obese fucks that need Dr. Younan Nowzaradan to run our fucking lives and diet choices. Most people can be exposed to shitty fast food while having the self control to not eat 8 Mcburgers in a row you fucking faggot. We shouldn't have to live under ultra strict diet laws that change literally nothing and just rob us of EVEN MORE of our hard earned money because some reckless piece of shit and it's enablers would do anything to keep living for free.

pic is who you *actually* think is a victim

>>130086207
who the fucked is asking you to pay for healthcare? You make the mistake of assuming fat people area broke. Be obese and be rich, fuck the skinny broke cucks crying about paying for others..
Broke ass nigga..

>>130098035
The guy has a Kekistani flag. As you can tell, he's probably not all that smart.

>>130098064
I don't even smoke, I'm just not a pussy like you that wishes he could say to the guy smoking next to him "UGHHH, COULD YOU LIKE, PUT THAT OUUUUUT?"

or how about get rid of government assistance and let people take care of themselves

>>130084107
>Why not tax food that makes people obese?
And you trust the corrupt businesses, lawyers and Deep State to decide what's good for you?

FDA calculates daily potassium need to 4700 mg.
Congress received reports for about 70 years that the soil doesn't contain enough minerals-
As all produce is designed to gain weight (and not minerals) fertilizer do contain a lot but not enough.

Now here's the kicker:
Yet there are laws in place so you can't buy supplement of potassium with more than 99 mg per pill.
So you would need to eat "a bottle" of pills per day instead of eating 3-4 500 mg pills.

They claim it's because it's dangerous, but potassium has about the same LDA50 as regular sodium salt, and you can buy that as much as you want.

(References: Wikipedia)

>>130098371
first of all i dont like smoking because it causes massive suffering, is a massive drain on the healthcare system, is cruel and potentially harmful to children, and generally decreases the population's ability to be healthy and well. theres not really many other habits so unambiguously bad for you as smoking.
when the government started banning smoking and hitting people in the wallets, we saw a decrease, and thats a good thing collectively.

i think something similar can be done for fatties and the most fat-enabling foods

>>130099149
First of all I don't care about your feelings. There's more to worry about that someone you don't even know smoking a cigarette.

The air of Hong Kong must be like smoking 5 packs a day.

>>130084704
>>130094967
>>130095305
>>130095856
>>130096122
>>130096540
>>130096649
>>130096936
>>130097329
>>130097632
>>130097775
>>130098064
>>130098371
>>130099149
Jesus you guys.
Get a room
>not a smoking thread.

>>130084107
Why not tax obese people? Solve all problems.

>tax sugar
>tax any food prepared by somebody else
>subsidize generator bikes
>pay cash money per power generated

>>130100077
>don't talk about the same concept but different objects REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>130084107
because mcdonalds doesnt make people obese. ice cream doesnt make people obese. dont tax me for having a burger once a week you dickhead. Be gone with all higher forms of government. I dont need the state.

>>130084107
Because taxation is theft.

>REEEEE TAX PEOPLE BECAUSE I SAID SO DESPITE THE FACT THAT I CONSTANTLY PREACH FREE MARKET ECONOMICS AND REDUCING TAXATION FOR EVERYONE

gotta be an idiot

File: retarded.jpg (17KB, 480x360px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 480x360px

>>130093644

No it isn't.

Lazy niggers literally cannot even cook for themselves.

This is what happens when you subsidize sub-humans.

>>130092901

>263 grams of fucking sugar alone.

>>130096585

Sure you can, if you aren't a pussy.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIXOo8D9Qsc

>>130084107
Because one big Mac won't make you obese. CICO

>>130084546
see, i was thinking this too at first. but if even 1% of the tax revenue goes towards paying for health insurance subsidies, i profit.

>>130093868
Hey guys. Found the fat person.

This is Tumblr fat acceptance logic, even if you are coming from a different direction.

File: 1416615009943.gif (289KB, 400x225px) Image search: [Google]

289KB, 400x225px

>>130084107
Food doesn't make people fat. Sloth does.
Tax people one cent for every 15 minutes they aren't moving. Stop taxing pay.

Education regarding nutrition needs to contain more chemistry and less fads, scares and "Global Warming Science".

Rice, Potatoes, Sugar, Bread - is pretty much identical as far as your metabolism is concerned.
It's all get turned into glucose.

The amount of vitamins and minerals vary considerably, and what pathway it takes to turn into sugar, but it's still "sugar" - All of it!

What most people really need is lots of exercise. (Nutritious food helps too, but it's mostly secondary if you just exercise a lot.)

>>130100712
Isn't it past your bed time?

>>130088303
Do you realize that there isn't a policeman or some other ambiguous personification of the government on every street corner?

People generally live ungoverned every single day.

Notice how gun laws in several US states are relaxing and there isn't any noticable uptick in crime. Notice how there isn't a 100% obesity rate even though there's cheap carbs everywhere.

You fail to realize that, generally, people aren't the stupid idiots your narrow mind makes them out to be.

>>130102388
Last time I heard that joke I laughed so hard I fell off the trebuchet.

>>130092091
>80's
>90s

So which the fuck is it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_tax#Japan

>>130102518
who stands on a trebuchet? thats how you get forcefully sent into God's glorious arms

>>130103131
This trebuchet had some wood planks for me to stand on.

>>130103339
thats a sweet trebuchet

>>130084107
You should be sensible enough to control your own food intake. Eat enough for one person not 5.

>>130103424
Thanks :3

File: logo.png (291KB, 270x362px) Image search: [Google]

291KB, 270x362px

>>130103339

>>130084633
Oh looka retard who doesnt know about fitness, this means all the /fit/ people would be paying the tax too you retard. Muscle is heavier than fat.

>>130084107
Higher taxes/prices to deter behavior and choices, especially health choices, has not, does not, will not ever worked.

They raised taxes/price of cigarettes, didn't work. People would rather pay less for food than smoke less.

They raised taxes and prices on soda pop, didn't work.

>>130084107
This isn't a good enough solution to tackle obesity. We need to reduce consumption of soy, processed carbs and processed sugars like corn syrup.

File: maxresdefault[1].jpg (87KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

87KB, 1280x720px

>>130084107
WHAT DID THEY JUST DO TO THAT BURGER

Jesus christ. Suddenly when it harms fat fucks you guys are FOR taxation.
Fucking whiny little inconsistent reactionary bitches all of you.

>>130084107
The problem is that the food that makes people obese is not what most people think it is. Grains,bread, carbs, sugar, diary. Those are the *real* problem. People eat way too much bread and cheese. The solution is not to tax them, but rather to not SUBSIDIZE them. They're only cheap because of subsidies. We do this to support farming and agriculture, which is useful. Instead, we should be focused on increasing production of whole foods like fresh vegetables and banning factory farming of chickens and such. We should be raising livestock outdoors, and feeding them the corn and grain and grass that we're subsidizing. Vegans and idiots make a lot of claims about meat production being destructive but that's foolish and a policy choice. Large-scale livestock production is a problem but it's entirely possible to return to a smaller, localized farming economy by simply removing the barriers we set up to create our present situation.

>>130084107
The same food that makes people fat is the food poor people eat. Unless those taxes are going to subsidize healthy food fuck off.

>>130084107
Good idea.

>>130101442
I will help my countrymen, thank you for this video!

>>130104354
made an ice cream treat out of it.

File: Auscucked.png (463KB, 1302x1056px) Image search: [Google]

463KB, 1302x1056px

>>130088190
>>130089752
Your kind are the worst

>>130084107
>Big mac is 800 kcal
>Eat three a day
>Meet recommended amount of kcal a day
How's it making you fat? What that because you stuff your fat face with other food items besides those burgers? So it's the burgers fault? Impressive!

File: 2Mhbrag.jpg (1MB, 2560x1600px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2560x1600px

>>130084107
Tax sugar like alcohol. Fucking two liter bottle of coke is what $1 - $2? 1.5 L of the cheapest wine is at least $12 bucks. It should cost about that.

Libertarians out.

>>130084107
>raise tax on fatty foods
>inadvertently cause blacks to start rioting due to increased cost to feed dey yungins
>profit???

>hardees/carls jr
>2 for 4 sausage biscuits
>40g of protein
>800 cals
>work out daily and adjust the rest of my diet to take this into account
>most fit dude in my office
>always told "Fast food's going to catch up to you! and you'll get fat"
>morons literally just don't know how to count calories and do basic workouts to account for it

File: anorexia-bryan-bixler-4.jpg (17KB, 400x307px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 400x307px

>>130084107
I'm very Skinny but I eat Fast Food & drink Soda regularly since early childhood.

Perhaps I'm skinny because I also eat veggies & jog (run/walk) daily. I have Low fat. Low blood pressure. No diabetes.

I'm a college student and I need to eat fast food for save me time & give me enough energy calories to study for long hours in a row.

The only health issue is just that I'm too skinny.
I too skinny that look like a holocaust survivor anyways. Without Fast Food I would just starve, become a skeleton or disappear.

I need these caloric foods for survive. Please don't ban it.

what do you guys think about making it so stuff like EBT only usable on healthy foods?

>tax fatty food
>mom and pop shops suffer because all food seems more expensive
>meg corps take this into account, lower prices to counteract it
>more people go to fast food places since they now seem cheaper
>everyone lobbies to have their shit classified as "healthy alternative" to avoid taxation

>>130106362
Regular user of stims here. Same.
5'10, 135lbs.

>>130088074
I have literally no problem with this so long as it's a just dictator who actually wants the best for their citizens. Individualism is a false god that eventually led to the civil rights explosion in America. Living for hedonistic, momentary pleasure is fun and all, but ultimately not conducive to a well-functioning population.

>>130084107
i think it was reagan actually who set the usa to go on a policy that would push small farmers off of their farms in favor of big industrial farms and subsidizing those farms to grow wheat and corn. So the food that makes people fat (ie wheat products) are actually getting money from the government to produce their goods to sell to people so that small farms that grow actual healthy food like green veggies will go out of buisness.

so the answer to
>Why not tax food that makes people obese?
is because the government decided it was more efficient to grow as much food per acre as possible rather than look into the potential health side effeects of that food.

"bad" food doesn't make people obese. drinking calories and overindulgence and sedentary lifestyles do

>>130106362
>>130106746
Listen up fags.
I used to believe this too.
You want to gain weight and muscle mass?
Eat lots of "table food"
My grandmother straightened me out.
Just because it's high calorie or fat doesn't translate to weight gain. Lots of sugar and salt keeps your digestive system working overtime to process it. i.e. burning up even more calories.
Eat sensibly, load up on meat, potatoes (not fucking french fries) bread, assorted veggies, etc. Stay off jelly donuts, etc. Once I started doing this years ago I gained 25 pounds of solid weight and muscle. Granny was right.

There should be a fat tax not on the food but on the people.

>>130106997
So you want-
>so long as it's a just dictator who actually wants the best for their citizens
Without individualism? Do you know what the fatal flaw is in a dictatorship?

>>130107668
The fact is that the civil rights movement was predicated on the American concept of liberty/individualism.
>"why shouldn't i be able to abort my babies? MY baby, MY choice"
>"why shouldn't i be able to slut around my whole life until i'm too old to have children? MY body, MY choice"
>"why shouldn't i be able to get married to another dude? MY life, MY choice"
You can keep going on like that for almost every issue that currently plagues society. If the US was instead a nationalistic dictatorship, these things wouldn't be allowed just by virtue of "b- but i want to!!" because they're harmful to the nation as a whole.

>>130084107
Why not spend reasonably and lower taxes
woah that's too radical

File: image.jpg (71KB, 452x812px) Image search: [Google]

71KB, 452x812px

>>130084107
fat food is poor food.
tax the poor?
while you and your lesbian wife raid the natty coop munching all the tasty healthies? Elitist dyke

>>130108283
And I reiterate. You fail to acknowledge the fatal flaw in dictatorship.

Your problem isn't with liberty. It's with selfishness. Authority does not fix the problem. It makes it worse. People do not learn self-control by having someone stand in the way of learning.
BTW, that isn't the fatal flaw in dictatorship. The fatal flaw is simple. When you create a position of concentrated power, psychopaths will invariably be drawn to that position and WILL invariably take control over it and all subsequent positions of authority.
This is why no fascist/dictatorial regime lasts. The laws of nature do not allow for that much power to last. Humans are too imperfect.

>>130084107
That's fucking gross dude

>>130110083
Yeah I will concede that nationalistic dictatorships are not sustainable in the long-term, however they are good for short periods of drastic change when you have a righteous dictator. It is true that after the righteous dictator dies there is no way to guarantee another righteous dictator, I'll admit that

File: kekistani.png (148KB, 766x783px) Image search: [Google]

148KB, 766x783px

Or gee perhaps make people pay health based rates for healthcare

perhaps that over taxing food that I want to eat sometimes you retarded normie tier faggot that thinks any type of food somehow magically makes people obese and simultaneously wants to ruin a perfectly profitable industry

kys retarded kekistani faggot

>>130110418
>Or gee perhaps make people pay health based rates for healthcare
>letting some government official determine your fate.
Nice one fag. kys

>>130110742
>gee cause healthcare companies could never require a physical exam before you get insurance

are you fucking retarded?

File: live free or kill.jpg (132KB, 437x368px) Image search: [Google]

132KB, 437x368px

>>130110414
>when you have a righteous dictator.
Doesn't exist. To seek the position of ultimate authority requires an ego that will always be entangled with degenerate selfish ambition.

Human society itself is a broken thing. It's not sustainable. It is born, succeeds, then dies every time. It is mortal, if you will, just like us.
The wise man understands this, and cuts himself loose from the pack. He gets wise, stays vigilant, and minds his own business. He flies under the radar and lets society run its course.
Until the species as a whole evolves to a point where selfish ambition is controlled, it'll always be in the shit.
But those of US(as a group) who can recognize this deviant flaw in human civilization, we, as individuals and as a group, can bow out of the game and do our own thing to survive.

You take abortions for example. I agree, abortion is an awful and disgusting thing. But there's a twist. The kind of people getting abortions have no business being parents, or even passing on their genes in the first place.
A rational person understands this irony. It's a useful irony, that abortions are done by people who shouldn't be having kids. Almost like a self-correcting problem.
Same with drugs. I love drugs, but I'm also responsible enough to not fuck my own life up, or anyone else for that matter. It takes planning, self respect, respect for others, and ultimately self control.
Dope fiends dying from ODs are a self-correcting problem. I avoid them like the plague. I don't need their bullshit ill-planning to cause me problems. I have a way of life to represent and others like me expect me to not cast a shadow over them doing stupid shit.

All eyes open, all the time.

>>130084107
>yes goy, more taxation and governmental intervention will fix peoples' problems

kys

>>130111664
>require a physical exam before you get insurance
In a sense they do.
They ask general questions on paper.
If you lie you will be denied payment.
Pretty simple you socialist fag. Why do you idiots need a nanny state?

>>130111732
Well look no further than Nazi Germany if you want an example of a nationalistic dictatorship affecting immense change in a short period of time. Germany was a degenerate hellhole and an economic nightmare before Hitler took control. The Nazis turned Germany into an economic and military powerhouse and that's only because they had a righteous dictator (righteous in the sense that he prioritized Germans over all else)

>>130110414
>when you have a righteous dictator.
having no concept of historical facts. kys

>>130112202
>And we all know how well that turned out.

>>130084107
Um..The foods (HFCS) that makes me obese is currently subsidized.. Remember, it's the government who told people that eating fat makes you fat and that sugar is a good alternative lol.

>>130112360
>the government
They used to extol the virtues of orange juice as "part of a nutritious breakfast".
Until some expert pointed out OJ is just a shitload of sugar.

>>130085074
You are a retard. Be as useful as the drug war or prohibition. You guys in the states have no healthcare; that is enough disincentive in my opinion. Canada should be the same.

>>130112339
Yeah well the world declared war on him because they didn't like how strong Germany was becoming, thems the breaks. Can't really blame that on the nat-soc ideology though

>>130086415
Nah, it is hyperpalatable by design. Using your monkey brain against you.

File: tumblr_of36l8axiP1vdbx3no1_1280.png (565KB, 598x543px) Image search: [Google]

565KB, 598x543px

>>130084107
>food that makes people obese
Oh, so food

>>130084107
if it makes salads at Chik Fil A and Wendy's cheaper than I'm all for it

>>130084107
>Why not tax food that makes people obese?
because freedom

>>130088061
Pork and beef in a burger is god tier. Wife introduced me to that. Mmm.

>>130112711
We have better health care than you. Fuck off leaf.

>>130112711
>You guys in the states have no healthcare
At least we have a country.

>>130084107
because then we will quickly see corporations and government regulation blur the line between what is healthy and what isn't. look at what happened to "organic," the word means nothing now.

>>130084546
>gives government more money to steal or squander
>typical fat person response

I'll rather have that money spend on local parks, of course a better health care system would be more desirable than see you fat fucks get A E S T H E T I C A L L Y unpleasing

>>130115630
>spend on local parks,
snowflake detected.
He's with "Her".

File: 1496228520489.jpg (14KB, 264x278px) Image search: [Google]

14KB, 264x278px

wow cool you're definitely a real person posting a normal thread on a relevant topic that people totally give a fuck about
primo, dude.