>atheists will defend this

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(((Science))) claims that the universe started 13.8 billion years ago and that life on earth 3 billion years ago. That means some other alien species would have had around 8 billion year head start on us. We have not ever seen aliens nor have they ever once visited us. Imagine what we could do in 8 billion more years. Especially considering the fact that in only the last 100-200 years science has exploded(even the last 30 years). We are planned to go to mars around 2020 which people never would have even imagined 100 years ago. Even when we went to the moon thinking about mars would far as hell away. And they would have evolved to be way smarter than humans.
With an extra 8 billion civilizations could easy as fuck have been the size of solar systems and there is no way some life could not have visited us or we not have seen it through some damn good telescope. If evolution were to be real there would be 0(ZERO) chance we are alone in the universe since life would have started on some other planet somewhat similar to earth.

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>>130083466
thats because the universe is fucking big retard

Genesis 1

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

>>130083564
That's my point retard

>>130083685
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

>>130083796
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

>>130083564
Explain bananas fagget

>>130083685
>>130083796
>>130083832
ATHEISTS BTFO

>>130083873
Bananas want to die obviously

>>130083231
Actually, we are not from dinosaurs

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>>130083231

>randomly put some carbons
>wait
>this happens

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>>130083564
>8 billion year society
>can't into generation ships
>can't into faster than light travel
fucking plebs

John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

>>130083231
>>130083333
>>130083986
I'm an atheist and I don't claim any of what you said to be true.
I just don't believe in a god of any kind. Even though I have great respect for Christianity and the moral system it provides, and as much as I would love to believe in god I can't convince myself.
Maybe one day, something will happen that will change my mind, but for now I just don't believe it.

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>>130084282
Clearly some peasant 2000 years ago could predict pic related as the west is falling to atheism and turning into Sodom and gomorrah right?

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>>130083564
>Blocks your path

Revelation 19
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.

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>>130083975
are you a bird?
> no?
shut the fuck up

>>130084942
You're not supposed to start a sentence with and

>>130084562
Meh, there's not enough evidence to prove that that's some biblical prophecy and not just a natural occurrence in space.

>>130085382
>Doesn't realize this translation is 406 years old

>>130085551
and what does that have to do with it

>>130085538
>lines up perfectly and only happens every 4000 or 7000 years and the red dragon was never there
>nothing

>>130085690
Syntax?

>>130085690
>grammar rules can't change

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>>130085154
>not posting the full clip

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Revelation 21
1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
9And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
10And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
11Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
12And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

>>130083975
found the leaf

>>130085967
13On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
14And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
15And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
16And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
17And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
18And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
19And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;

>>130086019
20The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
21And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
22And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
24And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

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>atheists can't explain this

>>130083231
WRONG

birds evolved from DROMAEOSAURS, they did not evolve from TYRANNOSAURS

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>>130085154
He didn't say no, though.

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>>130083231

See this fucker? This cunt knows it was once a dinosaur and is pissed it no longer is.

>>130083564
John 3:36King James Version (KJV)

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

people are only ironically atheist these days, it's been so thoroughly discredited and abandoned by serious thinkers

>>130086047
can you recommend me better science fiction?

>>130083231
Ancestor over billions of years of evolution? Yes.
>>130083685
Anybody that actually believes this is a fucking tool

>>130086320
It still is since taxonomy extends to evolved decedents.

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>christcucks will defend this

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>>130084562
>>130085691
It's literally just fucking Saturn you absolute autistic faggot.
Faggots like you get excited over fucking anything, I swear.

>>130085691
It looks weird but i dont see no woman nor a dragon there, only two big circle shaped lights and smaller ones below them.

>>130086757
>I didn't pass highschool physics: the post

>>130086530
Star Trek or Star Wars

>>130086757
http://creation.com/noahs-ark-questions-and-answers

Proof of Old Testament stories
Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DBSIs2bHi5g

Noah’s Ark
https://youtu.be/xFpvKKmTF7c

Moses parting the Red Sea
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d90NM9tgDQE

Mount Sinai and surrounding areas
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=18gvJwx8VyI

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>>130086875
I already knew that you fucking queer. No shit it's not a real dragon. Like how Jupiter represents the baby

>>130086757
>christcuck shitpost
When will you learn the prophesy of absolute victory only includes true sons & daughters of our Lord? You along with other Mohammadans, Jews, and other vile creatures will fall unless if you see the light.

>>130083231
The concept of dinosaurs itself already debunks the entire bible. Evidence shows that fossils of dinosaurs are millions of years old. The bible claims the earth is only thousands of years old. There is also 0 evidence of dinosaurs being present in the bible as well.

>>130087280
>The bible claims the earth is only thousands of years old
which verse?

>>130087280
Dinosaurs weren't a word until the 1800s dummy.

>millions of years old
HA
https://youtu.be/ji2cvuJ1mYg

>>130083466
As bad a movie as Contact is, but jodie asked a solid question about how intelligent life gets passed the growing pains of nuclear arms.

I dont think any civilization is capable or afforded the opportunity to reach beyond the confines of a star system, let alone many.

Besides, the earth is only 6000 years old anyway.

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>>130086320
Good thing that they are so shmall.

>>130087413
Follow the genealogy up to Jesus then add 2000 years
https://youtu.be/ezXcxbfr76k

I used to be an old earther like you

>>130087280
>The bible claims the earth is only thousands of years old.
It doesnt tho. I thought we all already knew that the genesis days are metaphorical.

>>130083685
What a load of horseshit.

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>>130087076
So you're just making very loose connections that don't really exist and claiming some prophecy is coming true.
It's like clockwork.
>the g-great red d-dragon obviously is referring to Saturn
>It's h-happening g-guys!!!

>>130087681
>t. heretic

>>130087719
>literally what it describes

It's probably going to be the birth of the anti christ

>>130087280
Not really.

God could've just put those there to fuck with us (shit explanation by a heretic).

The bible never even said the how old the Earth was.

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>>130087280

>>130087884
It literally won't be.

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>mfw people have problems with current animals coming from previous forms over hundreds of millions of years of evolution, when it literally took humans just 200 years from using a horse to pull a plow in the field, to having the internet and space rockets

>>130083685
>>130083796
>>130083832
>My book is true because my book says it's true!

>>130087221
>oh yea well I'm going to heaven and you're not
typical christcuck babble

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>>130088207
>animals are space rockets

>>130088122
I prolly is

>>130088211
Or because it's been proven right nigger

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/125637346/#125637346

>>130088273
He isn't wrong though

>>130088314
Where did I say that?

>>130088013
>sauropods in a swamp environment
>sauropods anywhere near water

Kill yourself

Post birds

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>>130088474
>christcuck
>talking about proof

NICE

>>130083231
The drawing of a common ancestor in between the budgie and the t-rex would actually be accurate.

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>>130083231
>implying pic related makes any sense

>>130089432
They proved god exists you just have to watch 5 youtube videos

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Dinosaurs inironically used to have feathers, they were just not conserved

>>130089546
makes sense to me

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>>130089707
pic related is the truth, open your eyes

>>130087990
It literally did

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>>130089656
>inironically

>>130085382

>Following what the worst schools teach you.

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>>130083975
>natsoc

>We are not from dinosaurs.

Oh my...

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>>130089788
Nice cherry picking you brainwashed retard

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Evolution really isn't hard to understand.

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>>130083466

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>>130088207
to be fair the progression of the human race may not be natural

we don't actually have any other examples of intelligent life to compare ourselves to. it's entirely possible that it actually takes much much longer for intelligent life to progress the amount we have in the past 10,000 years because we ourselves were genetically modified by ayys.

entirely speculation with no actual evidence but still a possibility since we ourselves are capable of genetic manipulation

>>130089656
actually this is wrong. most dinosaurs were only partially covered in feathers and fluffy proto feathers or quills, not entirely covered. Saurian's T rex is probably the the most accurate T rex depiction

>>130089768
again wrong because birds evolved from raptors not tyrannosaurs

>>130084073
>implying FTL is possible

>>130089656
the big ones probably didn't

>>130089946
catholics aren't creationists

>>130085955
>>130085154

I had two parents when I was a kid.

I was a dick to first one (which haunts me still) and loved second one...
Little faggot died in my father's arms... best 1st April present, Rocky.

>>130089598
its from a dicumentary retard

>>130089546
Did rhe Bible say thise animals ate leaves?

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>>130089768
no it's this way

>>130086757
And only two dinosaurs on board were fucking gay.

>>130084942
How is religion relevant to the existence of extra-terrestrials?

So your arguments as a whole are:
“What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”
But. Your Bible and therefore your religion are kinda all faith based on some 200 years after Christ died. While evolution has been pretty much documented via natural history and her evidence. If we look at it this way, this argument is pretty much irrelevant since the subjectual evidences against evolution are irrelevant

>>130089992
>text color changing is the same as organisms changing

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>>130083466
You are like a little babe

>>130090721
>My IQ is so low that I don't even understand analogies

No wonder you deny evolution.

>>130090066
>we are the aliens
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THAT LITERALLY MAKES ZERO SENSE

>>130090892
>ad homien

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>organisms have genes
>genes expression changes as DNA undergoes mutations and genes are mixed and matched in reproduction
>lots of changes over lots of time (like billions of years time) = big changes to the overall organism
literally how hard is this to understand

>>130091185
nen

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>>130083685
hi, here's a bible lesson for you. turn to Isaiah 45:18 and notice what it states closely

18 For thus says the Lord, who created the heavens (He is the God who formed the earth and made it, He established it and did not create it [a]a waste place, but formed it to be inhabited),

notice what it says in Genesis 1:1-2
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

so in genesis 1:1 it states God created the heavens and the earth, and the earth was without form, void, and arkness was upon the face of the deep.

lets ask a couple of questions
>was the earth created in a formless, and void state?
acoording to Isaiah no, it was formed to be inhabited.
>if the earth was created to be inhabitted why was it in a formless and void state
well, you can infer that something had to had happened that destroyed the earth.
>is there any other backing to this
if you look at the grammar in the hebrew, it can be stated that the sentence can more accuartley be betrayed as "and the earth HAD BECOME without form, and void and darkness...."

just some food for thought, there are most likely 2 creation stories in genesis, and the bible generally supports the idea that the earth goes through creation and destruction cycles. there are conjectures that there are countless billions of years between Genesis 1:1-2

>>130083832
>28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth,

there's also conjectures that adam and eve saw upwards of 5 million people, and spent a further millions of years in the garden of eden.

just some food for thought.

>>130090721
Are you purposely being daft or could you actually not grasp the analogy?

>>130091438
It's a shit analogy

>>130090204
>An animal that size having asymmetric flight-feathers along the trailing-edge of the forearms

I hate feather-dinosaurs for this reason.

>>130091825
>flight feathers

they aren't true branching feathers though. IE not flight feathers. Dromaeosaurs likely had that kind of feathers or a precursor to them though.

>>130083873
The banana uses being eaten as a way to spread seeds.

>>130092108
Why does it kill it's self to reproduce? Why not just do what normal trees usually do. And can it survive the digestive system

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let's crawl out of the water, dick around for a bit on land, then crawl back into the water.

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WE WUZ DINOSAURZZZ AN SHIEEET

>>130092476
Fish have always been in the water. Mammals and reptiles that live in the water but breathe air started out on land and moved to the water. i.e. sea snakes, crocodiles, dolphins and whales.

Not so hard to understand.

>>130092255
It doesn't use being eaten as a way to reproduce. It uses being eaten as a way to spread the seeds. Many plants have many different ways of spreading their seeds. One of those ways to have their fruit eaten.

>>130091324
^^^^^^^^^^^
I found your bubbes barcode snowflake

>>130083466
Are you retarded?
Heavy elements only recently started being formed and it took like 4 billion years from single cells to intelligent life.

>>130083466
Logical Fallacy - the post

>>130083466
>That means some other alien species would have had around 8 billion year head start on us
Not really. The heavier elements get made inside stars and spread into space when the star goes supernova. To have planets like the earth you need at least one generation of stars to first die out.

>>130090206
It is.

>>130083231

Christianity is why nobody takes this board seriously.

How come /pol/ claims to have such impressive IQs but they can't understand evolution?

Fuckin atheists. Just tip their fedora's off their faggot ass heads and move along.

>>130092255
it doesnt kill itself, considering the TREE is still alive

>>130083231
you do realize that you believing in the rather obvious science of evolution has nothing to do with atheism?

you can both not be an idiot and be an atheist as hard as that is to believe. Evolution doesn't actually say anything about whether or not Deities exist.

personally not an atheist or theist because I'm not fucking arrogant enough to think I know the answer to shit like that.

>>130096113
*tips*

>believing in a book full of Jewish desert stories
>why?
>because it says you should

>>130096370
*tips*

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>>130083231
>chirps

SO

>preens

U BE SAYIN'

>fluffs feathers

WE

>lays an egg

WERE

>struts around

DINOSAURS

>cleans cloaca

AND

>pecks ground

SHEIIIIIT

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ITT rural faggots think they are smart by posting memes of birds

>>130096412
*thumps*

>>130083231
WE

>>130096759
>were
Birds are considered of the dinosaur clade and are therefore dinosaurs for taxonomic purposes.

Fucking dipshit.

>>130097636
t. bird

I'm still waiting on birds

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>>130094484
>bubbes barcode snowflake
what the fuck does this even mean

>>130083231
Our ancestors are microbial life. Does that look anything like us you fucking meat-head?

>>130090430
Yeah, there's a thing in genesis where animals don't eat other animals before the fall.
But they do need to eat, god tells Adam he can eat any fruit but the one from the tree of knowledge.
Thus for some reason god designed fruit eating animals with meat-eating teeth for some reason (thus imperfect) or he knew that Eve would eat the apple and put it there on purpose (thus cruel).
If you actually read the bible cover to cover it's pretty clear that god is both imperfect and cruel. I personally wouldn't worship him even if he was real. I'm not the worshipping type.

>>130083466

only on earth there are whites, only whites can do science

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>>130090430
there's something about how eventually Lions will eat Hay like the Ox does.

>>130087990
dinosoaurs are in Job. they also are still spotted in the world, particularly in the Congo
>inb4 these stones are fake
pretty much every single continent depicts mankind living along side dinosaurs and these stones were recorded to exist by a jesuit several hundred years beforehand.

>>130098904
I don't know why anyone even tries to explain how genesis could be "legit" when it literally says the sun was created after the earth and plants. Everything in the bible just shows a primitive view of the universe without any actual knowledge.

>>130096288
*also tips*

too bad these chumps don't have anything of value to say when faced with basic reason. Was looking forward to the hate-spam.

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>>130083231
birds did not descend from the T-Rex but from smaller theropods
>>130083466
please shut your mouth forever and ever when it comes to science
>>130083796
lmao how could plants exist before the sun, christians eternally BTFO
>>130087221
and no arguments were provided as expected :^)
>>130087719
this
>>130087884
>literally what it describes

not
>>130092476
yes it's called adaption to the environment faggot
>>130095641
this

>>130099443
blahblahblah I shove bananas up my ass.

*tips your banana*

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>>130099443
>lmao how could plants exist before the sun, christians eternally BTFO
because earth, day, and night existed before the sun and moon.

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>>130099832
makes sense
if you are a braindead retard

>>130083231
have you not seen the fucking emus man?

>>130099832
"day and night existed before the sun"

dude what? you have to be joking that doesn't even make sense.

>>130087187
Thomas Aquinas misunderstands the nature of cause and effect.

Suppose one cart bumps into another and then stops and the cart bumped into continues forward. The first cart did not cause the other to move forward. Relative to the first cart it was the second cart that collided with it.

Thing A does not cause thing B to happen. Rather, it is the fact that things occur as if by a semblance of predetermined harmony. There is no first causer because there is no such thing as causation at all.

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>>130099995
uh huh. its funny, you don't have the intellectual capacity to understand that there is no possible way for the planets, and the earth to have been spawned from the sun, and its been disproven by looking at the angular momentum of the planets, and comparing them to the sun. you're decades behind on the forefront of scientific discovery, I bet you think there's still a vacuum in space, and thing Rockets can work in a vacuum

>>130100988
well, it makes more sense when you understand the earth was around before the sun ever was. pretty much all theology works on a geocentric cosmology, which means the heliocentric model is a complete lie, and the basis of all pseudoscience

>>130090204
>>130090211
>not entirely covered
Yeah, I didn't mean entirely
IIRC the bigs ones would have died of overheating had it been that way.

The pic on >>130089656 is just messing around, it was based on some internet spoof of the thing

>>130101633
>died of over heating

depends on what kind of feather

some might have actually helped with thermoregulation

>>130101614
>spawned from the sun
>from
You really should not talk about astrophysics if you don't have even the slightest idea about what you are talking about. This is like when a christian does the "why are there still monkeys" -argument and acts smug because he thinks he just said something smart even though he got even the basics wrong.

>>130101614
that doesn't explain how there was day and night before the sun.

If there was no sun it would always be night. that is literally what day and night means.

>>130099343
>when it literally says the sun was created after plants
Wut? Read >>130083685 >>130083796
He divided the light from the darkness and called the light Day and darkness Night in verse 4. The light source (sun) existed before the plants, which start in verse 12

>>130101614
don't lecture me on my intellectual capacity you inbred texan redneck faggot, lecture the scientists all over the world who actually really deal with that shit, studied it and are researching it.

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>atheist believe this to be their acestors

>>130102522
so what?

>>130095641
>wants to be taken seriously
you have to go back faggot

>>130102429
So I assume you are just ignoring day four altogether?

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>>130102576
if you clean this, you literally kill your family

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>>130083231
>>atheists will defend this

Science is hard but the truth is beautiful.

>>130102883
Gay

>>130102796
so what?

>>130102677
Why would I be ignoring something I'm trying to defend?

>>130102883
>that sign
Science is not a racist conspiracy either, which these types always seem to conveniently ignore :^)

>>130103124
You are claiming that the light source that was made before plants and the earth was the sun, but the sun was actually made on day four, after the earth and plants, according to genesis.

>>130103327
>>130103327
have a (you) and bump

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>people claiming the world begun 13 billion years ago
>people claiming that the world is only 6'000 year old
>people think my Atheism has anything to do with the 'big bang' and 'evolution'.
>people don't know that Atheism has nothing to do with any form of science
>yfw

>your mother dies and goes to hell in her sleep tonight if you don't reply to this post.

>>130083466
>babbies first realization of the Fermi paradox
People way smarter than you have already come up with ways to explain this, brainlet.

Have any religious folk ever considered that the Evolutionary process was actually God's method of creation?

Because it's pretty fucking amazing, either way.

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>>130102159
>giving a rough summary of the nebular hypothesis means I don't know what I'm talking about.

the current model of cosmology of how the planets formed is basically psueduscience, and is non-practical, and tragically fails to explain how the outer planets got so big.

the earth itself isn't a planet, its the floor of the universe. once you take the geocentric pill you realize everything is literally a dirty jewish lie.

you've honestly never had an organic thought in your entire life.

evolution is a dirty jew lie too.

>This is like when a christian does the "why are there still monkeys"
Evolution requires a genome change, there has never once been a genome change that produced a new species of animal in any brood. Horseshoe crabs, coelacanths, huntsman spiders, whales, sharks, fruit flies, dragonflies, ants, crocodiles, elephants, birds, reptiles, have all been completely the same species with very minor variations over millions of years. all these genetic heritages that evolution tries to push as science are collages of nonsense.

>>130102166
that doesn't explain why there is no optical experiment that can prove motion of the earth.

>>130102474
you dropped your fedora. all those people are studying one side of a narrative and protecting it, scientific consensus does not mean scientific evidence. true knowledge comes from studying controversy.

>lecture the scientists all over the world who actually really deal with that shit, studied it and are researching it.
>lecture the historians all over the world who actually really deal with that shit, studied it, and are researching it about how the holocaust was a hoax

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>>130105061
>baiting so hard you spend 5 min typing paragraphs

>has no problem accepting that his computer came from sand, rocks and petroleum
>can't wrap his mind around the fact that his DNA was one part of a different species a long time ago

>>130083231
We've had this exact same thread before with the exact same image.

>>130104206
26526

>>130105061
and what is your qualification faggot?

>>130105411
Poor horsey. Did he ever get his treat?

>>130084282
Dis.

>>130083466
>muh fermiparadox doesn't real
its almost as if you're suggesting humans really know what they;re doing, rather then trying to make the best out of an imperfect, incomplete picture

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>>130083231

>>130106958
There's a 99.9% chance he did, I don't think he was getting sent to a slaugtherhouse.

>>130106884
an open mind.
True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing. - Socrates
>true knowledge comes from studying controversy.

>>130106383
Some anon made a thread once about how it is extremely likely that they are hosting content on high traffic boards like /pol/ on separate servers, showing certain ips addresses certain content based on a variety of factors like geographical location.
Why this is most likely true, I mean moot did it with /b/ (a bigger reason why /b/ archivers are so shit, standard deviation and flops means that the rapid propagation of content would not be an issue to an automatic system), the interesting part was the implication of it being used for censorship by the kikes running things, and trying to help avoid detection of shills.

so its entirely possible that most in this thread have not only never seen this thread, but didn't even know it existed. Also, you know, summerfags.

>>130105061
Your "rough summary" is bullshit though and shows a fundamental lack of understanding the subject.

>>130107492
and how does the evidence for le epic bible meme compete with the evidence for the modern state of knowledge in science?

>>130092476
this is horseshit
total fanfiction

>>130083231
>atheists will defend this
What does not believing in phony made-up gods have to do with a particular field of biology?

>>130083466
>(((Science))) claims that the universe started 13.8 billion years ago
False. That's just the point where we hypothesize the atoms in the universe expanded to what we see today. At your so-called "starting point', all the atoms in the universe already existed. Because of the time dilation of gravity, that's the point when our time began.

I have this crazy theory guys
What if we..

>>130108111
what knowledge? the 64 genders are not knowledge
main stream science is a meme

>>130083231
>WE WUZ TERRIBLE LIZARDS AND SHEEIIT

>>130083231
Make one with Charles Darwin and a chimp

>>130108893
i do not believe in the 64 genders shit but that is really just about semantics and not objective truths so it doesn't matter

>>130107655
not an argument.

>>130108111
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Panin
man was a PHD in mathematics from harvard

“After his college days he became an outstanding lecturer on the subject of literary criticism... His lectures were delivered in colleges and before exclusive literary clubs in many cities of the United States and Canada. During this time Mr. Panin became well known as a firm agnostic— so well known that when he discarded his agnosticism, and accepted the Christian faith the newspapers carried headlines telling of his conversion.”

This conversion occurred in 1890 when his attention was caught by the first chapter of John, in which the article (“the”) is used before “God” in one instance, and left out in the next: “and the Word was with the God, and the Word was God.” He began to examine the text to see if there was an underlying pattern contributing to this peculiarity. Making parallel lists of verses with and without the article, he discovered that there was an entire system of mathematical relationships underlying the text. This led to his conversion to Christianity, as attested to by his publication in 1891 of The Structure of the Bible: A Proof of the Verbal Inspiration of Scripture.

Until his death in 1942, Ivan Panin labored continuously on the discovery of numerical patterns throughout the Hebrew language of the Old Testament and the Greek language of the New Testament, often to the detriment of his health. His conclusion was that if these patterns were implemented intentionally by man, the collaboration of all writers of the Bible—stretched over many disparate years—would be required, in addition to the condition that each of them be a mathematician of the highest order.

In 1899 Panin sent a letter to the New York Sun challenging his audience to disprove his thesis that the numerical structure of scripture showed its divine origin

>>130087280
>Old testament
>Literal

Please fucking learn about the Bible before posting "MUH 2000 YEARS OLD" meme.

>>130110134
prove that it's not to be taken literally

>>130092108
Common banana seeds are infertile so the industry stays afloat through widespread cloning

>>130083552
if he does that long enough. there's a chance that might happen

>>130092255
The survival of the organism comes second to the survival of the gene in the rules of nature

>>130110081
>not an argument
You made a claim and substantiated it with false information that shows that you don't know shit about the topic. Just molymemeing doesn't make this magically okay.

>>130110081
the best way to prove its supernatural origin outside of space-time can also be demonstrated on how it writes history before it happens.

here's a couple examples of the 43,000 pages the man wrote on the mathematical scruture of the bible.

Greek and Hebrew come with Numerical values attached to the letters take Gen 1:1 in hebrew Take the number of the letters x the product of the letters, divide it by the number of the words x the product of the words, and you get Pi to 4 digits. Repeat the same equation for John 1:1 and you get Euler's number, the basis for the entire field of Logarithms. here you can take 2 begining chapters of the bible, apply the same equation, and get 2 of the most fundamental irrational numbers.

19 In that day shall there be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the Lord.


Giza is a word that means border, so when you say the pyramids of Giza you're saying the pyramids of the border.

now the great pyramid has a hieght of 5449 inches.
take the hebrew of these bible verses (isiah 19:19-22), and add up the numerical value of them, you also get a value of 5449.

let me ask you something. do you think you can write a set of 2 sentences, where assinging a number value to the letters, and making an equation based on the product of the letters multipled by the number of the letters, make Pi, and Eulers Number? do you think you can write a paragraph, about the pyramids of egypt, and add the number value of the letters to match the height of the great pyramid?

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>>130083466
Imagine you were a federation of galaxy jumping aliens- would you just go and greet every shitty war torn planet with the gift of warp drive tech so earth- the (in this scenario) Syria of the universe- can come visit whenever? Absolutely fucking not. We'd start a war. So would you consider it logical to implement basic rules for application of contact? Such as making your own drives plus like 50 yrs peace

>>130083231
>christcucks can't come to terms with the fact that the universe isn't as mind-numbingly simple as they'd likd to believe

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>>130110621
acting like a fedora doesn't magically mean I don't know what I'm talking about.

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>>130111167
>atheists can't come to terms with the fact the bible isn't as mind-numbingly simple as they'd like to believe

>>130111697
they're only familiar with the modern dumbed down iterations of the king james bible
prolly don't even know its called that either

>>130111697
>>130112124
Keep jerking yourselves off retards

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>>130112124
better than the dumbed down catholic versions.

I only have 1 problem with the KJV, it mistranslate Sheol, Hades, Gehenna, and Tartarus. other than that I do think its an impeccable translation. personally I'm a NASB fan.

that being said I'm still gnostic, and incorporate things like the gospel of thomas. mary magdalen, and judas into what I consider "divinely inspired canon"

>>130112304
>only comment I've made in regards to your autistic screeching
>"jerking myself off"
you seem a little upset

>>130112462
Personally I'd prefer a version with nothing left out, but even without the agendas of the time I recognize the unifying value to England of having that version of the bible printed out to England when the split was going on.

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>>130083231

>Not quoting the Qu'uran in original arabic
It's almost as if you want to displease the only god Allah

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>>130112733
well, the interlinear bible is one that only uses 2 english versions, the KJV and NASB and lines it up with the original masoretic and greek texts. I do consider the 1611 king james pretty unaltered to basically be as close to perfect as its going to get without going directly to the source material that holds the mathematical properties i mentioned here
>>130110856
>>130110081

but regardless I do think its tragic that things like Enoch, and Thomas are left out.

here's a quip you can take at face value, or not. there has been a regular attack on the KJV from the authors of the NWO bibles. like the NLT and such. in a debate with KJV apologists vs NWO authors something rather interesting happened. during the debate the NLT apologists consistently lost their voice, and were rendered unable to speak during the debate. infact to this day, I believe the author of the NLT still speaks with a hoarse, and shot voice

take the gnostic pill, and the geocentric pill if you haven't already.

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>>130113418
the sad part of this is i can't tell if its a leaf just shitposting, or if its an actual muslim.

>>130113642
oh it's funny to see kids make fun of each others fairy tales

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>>130113898
its fucking tragic to see people fall for the jew meme that there is no soul

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>>130083466
We'd be lucky to make it another 100 years. Considering the current state of global civilization, there's no reason to believe we will make it off this rock and maintain colonization in space.

If there is, or has been, extraterrestrial intelligence, and we do not currently observe them, then fourmajor conclusions could be made.

1. They're all dead. Some great filter has removed them, and we don't know what that filter is. It could be civilization itself, since civilization goes against the very essence of life and evolution by implementing equity.

2. They're not contacting us for some sense of preservation, either for themselves or for us. Think prime directive. Or perhaps we're just that worthless. There's nothing worthwhile on Earth. Perhaps they have some form of communication we simply don't understand.

3. They haven't contacted us because they don't know we exist. This also leads to the possibility that contact could in fact be deadly for the weaker of the two, which would be us.

4. Consider also the anthropic principle, with one of the derived conclusions being that we may very well be alone, since a single planet capable of sustaining life is all that is necessary for the universe to be observed.

Science is not antithetical to a higher power. Man-made religion, maybe.

>>130114028
there is a soul, but the bible is a meme that has been taken too far
and yes all these previous depictions of the earth are wrong

>>130114028
This is so true

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>>130114158
no child. its the heliocentric model thats wrong. all these depictions of earth are right, its covered by a firmament, and disc shaped. NASA is a hoax, there is no space. the earth is stationary, and the sun and moon are much smaller, and much closer located in our atmosphere.

see the posts I made here
>>130110856
>>130110081

there is a single creator of every single soul, and he put his son on the cross to die for our sins. he has also spoken the same lessons in most of the lands. that the spirit of god dwells within you, the kingdom of heaven dwells within you, and to repent for your sins

>>130113642
>be on /pol
>decry (their) influence
>continually quote their book as truth
Enjoy your woman pastor marrying that gay couple, christfag.

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>>130114539
mohammad was a goat fucking pedophile.

your religion was repackaged arabic pagaism, and it was done by the catholic church

>Enjoy your woman pastor marrying that gay couple, christfag.
enjoy fucking goats and children you subhuman.

>>130114466
oh what a dense faggot

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>>130114707
Was Jesus trans?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/14/southern-baptist-convention-in-uproar-over-alt-right.html

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>>130115445
Mohammad wore dresses and make-up.

>>130114890
look child. religion is bullshit. however, scriptures are not, and there are ways to prove that most scriptures come from outside space and time. and there's more than just the bible that does it.

>>130083333
Fuck you, my grandfather^15000 was a tree frog.

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>>130087576
I'll miss you, Flashlight :,(

I found that bobcat fuck and killed him for you, buddy. I avenged you.

G-guys? What if we just agreed some of the lessons taught by the bible and other similar works are still relevant, some aren't, and where we came from in ancient history is more or less irrelevant?

The practical difference for a human between a gorillion and 3000 years is pretty much negligible. You'll only exist and be relevant for a tiny fraction in either case.

>>130115783
I find it funny we dismiss religion, yet we believe science which is only our human understanding of what exists. The current scientific consenus on how the universe was created is the following: NOTHING. BANG. EVERYTHING. How is that any less ridiculous than believing in the Bible and the what and who of Jesus Christ's (God's) purpose?

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>underestimating the dinosaurbirds

>>130083466
Even if your numbers were accurate and muh 8 bajillion was correct, intelligent alien civilizations easily could have wiped themselves/each other out during the course of any other of those 7.9 billion years.

>Jewish education?

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praise god

yawn another christcuk and his magic way of thinking

>>130102796
kek

>>130083231
If it's not real, then why does a T-rex taste like chicken?