NK Thread

Hillary looked better getting dragged into a black van.

I'm surprised the Norks even have prisons rather than wholesale executing anyone who commits a crime

>>130082835
Yeah dude was in a coma I think

>>130082581
hes not in a coma, hes brain dead

>>130082581
What did the do? Shock him untill he had some sort asphyxiation or heart attack that caused loss of oxygen to the brain?
>no signs of trauma
>no botulism

>>130083603
he's not brain dead, he's in a permanent vegetative state.

brain dead is when you need life support to keep your organs running. Otto doesn't need life support.

>>130082581
Don't communists have universal free healthcare?

Shouldn't have fucked with their shit.
Though there's always the infinitely small chance that he was forced to do it.

>>130082581
wonder what USA gave NK to get this piece of shit back

>>130083904
Probably got tortured with electroshocks, yes.

This is why you don't go to NK.

When the fuck are we gonna nuke that shithole anyway?

>>130082581
Otto is not Otto, he's an empty shell.

I wonder if they had him displayed for everyone to see after they destroyed his brain?

Just think. the lot of that is pure psychological induced. This is why it's important to be keen on your surroundings. The imagination and mind is easily swayed in the right cirumstances

>>130085663
fix your life brother

>>130083288
Unpayed laborer better than dead criminal

>>130082581
Is that how you transport coma patients? Just drag them from place to place?

>>130085663
I thought some basketball player went over for a tour or something

>>130082581

Fuck this cuck.

I'm happy he went from metaphorically being retarded, to literally being retarded.

Hope his friends and family are weeping.

>>130086225
You're stupid

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>>130082581
Fuck guys, is this what feels feel like?

I wonder what they did to him.

>>130083288
How do dead people mine coal? The Nork economy is based on slave labor just like the Soviet economy was.

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>>130082581
>Warmbier
Gross.

>>130086290
?

>>130086943
I wonder what his last thought was before he lost his mind

>>130086943

Doctors are now saying he suffered from "extensive loss of brain tissue in all regions of the brain" caused by deprivation of oxygen. They probably either strangled him half to death or waterboarded him half to death. Fucking Norks.

http://www.witn.com/content/news/North-Korea-releases-US-citizen-Otto-Warmbier-428190993.html

>>130085399
>>130085663
>>130086762
>>130086225

Did you see the evidence against him? A forced confession and a potato quality security cam that has no face or person visible. None of the people on the trip said he did it.

NK just picked some guy to fuck with.

You people are retarded if you believe the North Korea party line that this bight kid on vacation through China went to NK to steal a propo poster for $10,000 to give to a friend's mom. Fucking christ

> what is evidence
> what is a trial
> what are witnesses

>>130087119
He means you're the stupid piece of shit, not Otto.

>>130087165
What a delusional cuck
Newsflash nk plays a different game
Ur dumber than bush

>>130087165
I'll take your word for it without looking anything you've mentioned, norks are disgusting subhumans.

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>>130087155
So they turned him into a brainlet?

>>130087155
>waterboarded him half to death

haven't you heard, waterboarding isnt dangerous

drink the koolaid and you will agree

>>130086225
KYS faggot. Goddamn it. Faggot anarchist. Go suck a shotgun you lack basic critical thinking skills if you think organic brain damage is psychological.

>>130087165

This. It's quite likely the "tourist company" was actually a N. Korean scheme to get an American tourist that they could hold hostage.

The Norks lied about his brain death being caused by botulism, why should we believe they were truthful about him stealing from N. Korea?

>>130087123
probably "I cant breathe"

>>130087344
>plays a different game
And what is that? Torture? Kidnapping? Murder? Outside of your garbage country these are not normal, acceptable things.

>>130082581
There's speculation he attempted to hang himself but was stopped before he succeeded. I don't buy that pic. I saw one of him on a stretcher completely covered by a sheet being transferred to the hospital.

>>130082581
If you're literally retarded enough to want to vacation in North Korea then you absolutely deserve shit like this

>>130087165
>go to NK
i don't care what happens to anyone stupid enough to do this.

>>130086980

Sure but they can just go to any citizen and say "Your job is to dig coal now". They don't need to rely on convicts.

>>130082581
WTF? He isn't in a coma. He's catatonic. He probably just lapsed into a severe catatonia from demoralization. He looks 100x healthier than I ever imagined. If he really was in a coma, if I'm ever in a coma please send me to Best Korea because they apparently know how to manage comas perfectly.

>>130087463
Have you ever wondered why no one likes you?

>>130087542
Yup. NK knew Obama is a weak cuck who wouldn't do anything about this, and it was an easy way to get some leverage and payback. That people are defending NK of all places is pathetic.

>>130085663
What good is Otto to them if he's a vegetable?

>>130087633

That's a possibility. Maybe he tried to kill himself and they resuscitated him after there was some brain death. It would also make sense from N. Korea's point of view, since a dead hostage is worthless.

>>130087768
It seems he's in a PVS not necessarily a coma. Coma was the excuse NK gave to cover they tortured him brain damaged.

This isn't fucking catatonia from demoralization. No doctor has said that. His brain is literally shrunken and damaged.

>>130082581

>implying us didn't do that

>>130087165
It is not the usa. In a foreign land you MUST adhere to THEIR laws and customs, not ours. He fucked up and paid for it. That should be a lesson to others. Do never fuck around on foreign clay.

>>130087806
I like him, fuck off.

This is likely an unfortunate accident. North Koreans living near the border (Snorks) are well-known for their friendliness and ability to breathe for long spells underwater. They probably took him to a beachl party and overestimated his swimming abilities.

>>130087165
WHy on earth would any american willingly go to NK?

>>130087268
i'm not the one who went to NK

>>130088384

You're right. Glorious Leader would never let any harm come to this American tourist's head. He probably had an accident repeatedly for several years.

>>130088247
Ok where is the proof? This is the problem I have - no one has provided any proof of a crime other than a NK security video. Oh yeah thats super trustworthy coming from what is arguably the most corrupt and human rights abusing country active right now.

You are believing the king of propaganda - Kim Jung - over your own life experience in America re: justice, evidence, and law. Think about that.

>>130088467

Thrill-seeking. Same people who free climb skyscrapers. They're not smart, but they exist.

>>130082581

>be Otto Warmbier
>travel to North Korea
>steal propaganda poster
>get "tried" and sentenced to hard labor
>end up in coma/persistent vegetative state
>return to USA strapped to gurney
>now known as Otto Kaltbier

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>The faint chirping of small birds outside the window and the occasional beep of some machine beside me
>my mouth is so dry and my ass feels all bunged up
>I slowly open my heavy eyelids and they are caked with ray charles-esque boogers
>"Honey oh my god my baby is awake" my mom runs over and hugs me
>I cant remember anything.. something about a trip to Chynah or something.. suddenly my ass feels like it's been foot fucked with a wool sock on
>wtf? run to the bathroom on my emaciated legs
>tear down my pants as I'm running to the bathroom but it's too late
>BRAPPP
>feces is projecting me forwards causing me to run even faster
>suddenly tripped up by some sort of cloth and I fall in a heap of hot coma shit and a tangle of red cloth
>It's a fucking north korean flag
>"You did it anon! You got the flag!" my mom crys tears of joy.

>>130086762
>metaphorically
the word you're looking for is figuratively

>>130088467
Ostensibly because it is forbidden fruit, and it is a popular place for Russians and Germans. Americans are rare and it was likely he was picked off for that reason. It is unwise to go to NK, sure, but this is beyond that.

>>130088562
Ammelican so clumsy
we have big laff
ho ho

I really feel like he otto know better.

>>130089226
Day of the rake when

>>130088384
what a soft cunt, if the water was full of stingrays I could understand how he would go into shock and drown himself

>>130088875
>expecting americans to speak proper english

>>130086391
Stretcher probs doesn't fit on the ramp, gotta get that dumbass out somehow kek

>>130085663
I think Dennis Rodman gave Kim a copy of Art of the Deal. Not even joking

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>>130082581
We can all agree he has been a CIA asset for some time now right?

>>130088786
>German humour attempt

How much you wanna bet this kid was co-opted by the CIA. You don't just fucking go to NK, we still have the DMZ up and NK hates us with a passion

>>130083924
He's just on Otto pilot.

So is there any chance he'll wake up?

>>130087729
the fuck is wrong with him that he thinks going to norkland is a reasonable thing to do. It's like going up and literally begging to be used as a hostage.

Like that old fucker that got "kidnapped by pirates" off the coast of somalia, ransomed out for millions and then kidnapped again while "vacationing" in afghanistan where he was eventually killed.

>>130082581
Watching this on FOX now. This kid is monarched to hell. Wonder when the Norks will trigger him and have him start sending them information.

You think he took the nork shrimp while in jail there?

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>>130090332
CARLOS!

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>>130090418
Oh, he'll wake up.
Just needs the right signal.

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>>130088618
>no one has provided any proof of a crime other than a NK security video.
Believe me, i know a lot about proofs. And how are you imagine to get any not-NK proof that you would accept if that happened in NK, whos word you don't trust in principle. You just reject their proofs, but at the same time damand proofs. You act like a flat earther siriusly.

>>130090418
the brain damage sounds really bad

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>>130087155
>He said he and his wife grew frustrated with the lack of word about their son from former President Barack Obama's administration, which they said instructed them to keep a low profile to avoid upsetting the North Koreans.

Fucking pathetic

>>130086980
>The Nork economy is based on slave labor just like the Soviet economy was

Are you that there are some states in "the land of free" that "pay" inmates 0.03 an hour for woking in mines? put your gurbby fwt gingers down and dont point at other people if your pants are off. Americans are like a whore that is always preaching of virtue

>>130082581
>be American christcuck
>Go to Best Korea
>wave bible around
>get lobotomy through JongUNcare

>>130082581
Can we fucking steamroll these subhuman fucks yet?

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>>130082581
Otto Warmier is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

>>130090418
Doubtful. The Norks probably tried to turn him into some kind of sleeper agent, but fucked it up

>>130083963
Underrated

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>>130085663

>>130091399
>put your grubby fat fingers

>>130086768
Yes. That person really ought to know that his/her writing screams "stupid."

>>130091217
>He said he received "a very nice phone call" Wednesday evening from President Donald Trump, who said Secretary of State Rex Tillerson worked hard to bring Otto home. Warmbier said the family was "extremely grateful for their efforts and concern."
That's disgusting, how could anyone vote for this hateful bigot?

>>130090029
As good as Bad As I Wanna Be was, I would like to read Rodman's full disclosure autobiography.

>>130091780
I wonder how Trump took the news that the norks fucking lobotomized one of ours and lied about it.

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>>130090332

>>130092052
Hopefully he'll take some kind of action.

>>130092052
he probably was just sitting in a blank room with white walls and nothing, ate only rice and had no contacts with outside world. That can lead to brain loss. Hello robots from r9k, you are getting dumber without social interractions with people, believe me

>>130087768
His doctors stated publicly that he has brain damage.

>>130087165
>go to NK
>don't follow rules to the T
>get shit on by worst government
>wonder wtf happened as you realize malnutrition in NK is just that bad

Also
> what is evidence
> what is a trial
> what are witnesses

It's north korea, they don't give two shits about your rights

>>130091217
>state department: Don't go to North Korea.
>state department: Really, don't go.
>state department: Seriously, don't fucking go.

>Warmbeers: Our son went to North Korea! Get him back!

Not sure this is one to peg on Obama. Still, I too would've liked a bolder stance from the U.S.

>>130092366
Not true. I spent a whole month in solitary in December of 2005. I didn't really get any dumber when I came out though, in fact it was a pretty nice experience.

>>130092366
Maybe his brain melted when he realized communism doesn't actually work

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Do we attack North Korea over this?

the amount of lol what did he expect going to nk you see from the contrarians on this board is sickening

they knocked him into a coma after like a fucking day, this should be completely unacceptable

>>130094096
Someone needs to update that with Mattis

>>130093003
what crime? Ive always wanted to be in solitary confinement to reflect on life for a bit. It would be a kino experience

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>>130090332

Why him? Others on the tour were fine

I don't buy the political banner theft, that was bullshit. I guess they just wanted some political leverage?

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>>130083904
Holy Fuck!!

>>130095084
The ultimate answer is this.

Jackasses need to stop going to North Korea and getting surprised when something happens.

It sucks that this happened to him but holy shit, don't go there.

>>130095269
He'll never have any gay thoughts again.
Nor will he have any thoughts :^)

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>>130094499

Kek has spoken

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>>130094499
Call him and have him do it.

Check theses digits

Metal bed spring, a truck battery and some jumper cables

>>130082581
Kid messed up. Now he on Otto Pilot

If this dumb retard was your son, would you pull the plug on him?

>>130090332
Include me in the screen cap

Hola /r/4chan

>>130099776
I'd pull the plug on you right now if I could.

>>130091399
Don't break the laws of the country you live in, or ones you visit, and you won't become a slave and/or vegetable.

>>130100613
Bet you'd go ballistic if this happened in any country other than NK.

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>>130090332
I should not laugh

>>130100772
Not when someone does something as stupid as this kid did.

I didn't give a fuck that Singapore whipped the kid who spray painted cars. When you go to other nations respect there rules and do not do stupid shit.

>>130100989
Should you ever offend me, I'll lobotomize you. Though for you it might be an improvement.

>>130087729
He was doing it for instagram likes.
Wanted to out-do his buddies and impress some insta-whores with selfies from NK.

>>130100772
Well I wouldn't steal in a country that would chop my hand off for it, because I don't want to lose a hand over a snickers bar. I also wouldn't feel bad for some arrogant brat who decided to test if they would really do it or not.

>>130083330
Had she been in a comma she would still be sleepingm.

>>130094277
Summer fags are unbearable this year.

>>130091062
The proof presented is potato quality cam footage that does not show his face, skin, size, gait, etc. It shows someone putting a poster on the ground.

When I say proof I mean anything that actually links him to the crime. All NK has given is a forced confession (in b4 that amounts to anything) - no eyewitnesses, no actual evidence, no fingerprints, no photos showing him, etc.

>>130101240
He was a thief.

>>130090029
State Department, not CIA.

>>130101271
Irrelevant

>>130100989
You goddamn faggot there is no proof he did this. Holy fuck.

The SG kid is completely different story. Things like evidence, witnesses, truthful confession, rule of law, etc. NK lobotomized this kid over a video they most likely produced after the fact.

>>130101470
And now he's a lobotomite. If he even commited the crime he's been accused of in the first place.

>>130092755
Obama's foreign policy was limp-dicked.

Even then I don't blame Obama for retarded Americans who don't listen to State Department travel warnings.

>>130101470
> thief
What are stolen goods
What is possession of stolen good
What is evidence

They never even said he stole the poster. They said he put it on the ground. Goddamn it, if you are going to comment on things at least read the fucking article and news about it!

>>130094277
Kid probably tried to strangle himself and almost succeeded.

Don't expect a numale to not pussy out of 15y hard labor. It probably wasn't even that hard.

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>>130090332

you cheeky motherfucker

>>130087633
oi

>>130099776
Pull the plug on your whole family you faggot.....

>>130101693
Just because you say there is no proof doesn't mean their isn't and doesn't mean he wasn't found with the poster in his possession.

You don't visit NK as an American unless you're Dennis Rodman or Bill Clinton. Some shitty countries can tour to give NK money and sometimes NK will allow people who do pro NK propaganda.

He ignored the risk and paid the price. And he probably did steal the poster and probably tried to an-hero and was resuscitated with brain damage.

>>130094096
China's looks like a pretty ineffective desk jocky to me.

>>130102003
NK prison labor is some of the most brutal in existence. Mortality rate is 40% per year. They will imprison you, your siblings, your children, you parents, and your grandparents if you are deemed a political dissident.

You are worked 16+ hrs a day and given 200g of corn to eat if you are lucky. Rape and beatings are common.

Sound funny now you edgelord faggot?

>>130101945
>>130101759
Look, if they kidnapped him and did this, it would be one thing.

Kid went to fucking NK and did something stupid. He had it coming.

>>130101412
Then shit, I wonder what they did to him in that camp

>>130102416
>Mortality rate is 40% per year.
that seems high

>>130102359
So you think a trial for 15 years of prison is to be taken at the state's word? And we can have proof but hey doesnt matter if we dont show it - the kid must be guilty.

He was not found with the poster. Do basic research on this case. His roommate said he never saw it either. The poster was not removed.

You just assume someone is guilty. People like you are what allows corrupt governments to thrive. His risk was going to a shithole country. Not the wisest choice but for the 1000x time there is no actual evidence he did anything.

>>130085663
That's an American citizen not a piece of shit

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>>130082581
K E K
Kid got what he deserved

>>130087410
Worse - a Canadian.

>>130102416

source on that?

>>130102734
Obv Ive never been in a NK prison but people who have escaped claim this number. I will take their words over NK govt. To be fair they have redone much of the prisons there after they got in too much shit for their conditions. After NK gets glassed maybe the truth will come out.

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>>130102964
Shin Dong-hyuk - some of his stuff I think he recanted.
"The Aquariums of Pyongyang"
"Eyes of the Tailless Animals"
I know some of it gets politicized but I trust the just of it.
I have been following NK prison stuff since Bush. Got onto it one day at random when reading about gulags and its been a hot button for me ever since.

>>130087165
>willingly going to NK
>get a taste of real socialism

Its like going to the Congo and wondering why you got enriched.

>>130102416
When did I say it was funny?

The kid was retarded to visit NK and he won his stupid prize. I have no tears for a numale cuck who thought nothing bad would ever happen to him.

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>>130102450
Pretty sure they did in fact kidnap him. Only difference is that they gave an excuse.

>>130102734
That's the point anon. Work people to death, kill "dissidents" and get free shit from their labors. This is how the USSR built almost all the infrastructure in Siberia.

>>130102450
It was likely just that tough - a kidnapping.
Some sketchy tour operator advertising for American youths to be edgy and check out NK. Guaranteed to not get in trouble. That was their ad. It was likely a scam to filter in Americans, run some background on them, and see which ones could be easily turned/kidnapped/used as leverage.

NK govt is unbelievable levels of corrupt. They make African govts look like angels. Murder, torture, brainwashing, kidnapping - been doing it for decades.

>>130102776
>>130102776
And you think he's innocent with no evidence.

15years isn't a reasonable punishment, NK isn't a reasonable country. I challenge you to tour NK with your self-righteous attitude and see what happens.

Would you tour a prison without escorting guards and expect nothing bad to happen? Oh sure it is entirely likely that the prisoners won't do anything, because many are regular people. But don't be surprised when the wrong person gets near and you get shanked.

>>130103419
>When did I say it was funny?

> "Don't expect a numale to not pussy out of 15y hard labor. It probably wasn't even that hard."

> "a numale cuck who thought nothing bad"

Looks and smells like edgelord jokes to me.

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>>130103858
>cimb down into a tiger enclosure
>get eaten by a tiger
>+8Eab7i9 blames the tiger for being violent
Since you've obsessed over the NK gulag so much why do you justify idiots to visit NK?

>>130087545
Kek

>>130103840
Yes I think he's innocent - with no evidence - because this isn't clown world where reasonable entities punish people for baseless claims.

But you said it yourself - NK isn't reasonable. So what's more likely? They made it up, and you can add it to their laundry list of complete lies they deal with for 50+ years - or he did it so he could get a used car from his friend's mom?

And fuck no Im not going to NK. because it's a disgusting shithole. But if (you) did go I would argue just as hard that you deserve justice and to not get kidnapped by them

>>130103987
>addtext.com
Get a better pic, and don't add watermarks. This can be done in paint.

>>130086980
>The Nork economy is based on slave labor just like the Soviet economy was.

Are you retarded? The incarceration rate in the USSR was miniscule compared to the US.

>>130103343
Defectors are often pressured and paid by imperialist scum to exaggerate their stories so westerners have a reason to "liberate" the DPRK, meanwhile stories of defectors who wish to return home are never shown in the media.

>>130104136
I dont justify anyone going there. Tourist money goes right into the pockets of one of the cruddiest administrations to exist. It's a terrible practice and the sooner NK is glassed, removed, or unified the better.

But - if someone goes to a foreign country, I expect the government to not kidnap and lobotomize them. Crazy idea right?

>>130103737
This is true but they aren't in the habit of returning hostages with severe brain damage, it sorta ruins their value.

>>130104473
> commie flag
> "imperialist scum"
> defending NK
> trash.exe

>>130104679
you hurt my feelings

>>130104532
Exactly. They fucked up big time. Trying to turn a young white American kid was a stupid idea. I think the only other Americans locked in NK are of Korean descent.

I think they realized they screwed up and just tried to hide it under the rug, Obama played along with it too.

>>130104746
Sorry m8. Just riled up.

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>>130094841
>"Behn ?"

>>130104245
>not my OC
>you're welcome

>>130104914
What makes you think he wasn't actually a spy then?

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>>130104413
Holy fuck how did you even manage to type that message in with retardation this severe? Ignoring the fact that you somehow brought US into this, the pic related alone is enough to prove how dumb you are.

>>130087542
>his brain death being caused by botulism

This should be easily provable. Test his blood for botulism antibodies. If positive, he's had botulism, which is exceptionally rare.

>>130104219
>Tiger cage says "don't enter, tiger will eat you"
>State Department warning says "Don't enter, you might be imprisoned and used as a political hostage"
Going to NK is exactly as stupid as climbing into a tiger's cage.

Has anyone made the coldbier joke yet?

>>130104487
>But - if someone goes to a foreign country, I expect the government to not kidnap and lobotomize them. Crazy idea right?
which is why you don't visit NK you goddamn fool.

Which is why you shouldn't go to a plethora of other shitholes in the world. You're the one with child thinking here. This isn't about right and wrong, it is about the way the world exists. It is about accepting reality and understanding danger and risk.

>>130105422
It's a possibility but the backstory doesn't fit. Specifically that he went on the tour last minute while having forward travel plans, wasn't a full college grad I think so not hired by an agency yet, and that he was surrounded by fellow young American tourists and roommates + NK handlers the whole time.

If he was a spy, there was little to gain by running a blatant young American tourist cover story. That's sticking out like a sore thumb from the get go.

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>>130104245

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>>130082581

>when you finally get woke about the lies of capatilism

>>130105837
Saved. One of these days I'll remove other watermarks.

>>130105497
Tested negative for botulism. Yet another NK lie.
>>130105766
Fair enough, yes. I would expect skullduggery from actors other then the host government though. And I would certainly expect the US govt to actually bother to help out for things this rare and shitty. Obama told the family to keep quiet. No one bothered to help this kid out.

>>130105575
yeah but he made it in German so no one laughed

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>>130091062

>>130106122
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/19/north-korea-defector-change-story-shin-dong-hyuk
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/18/asia/north-korea-defector-changes-story/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/famed-north-korea-defector-changes-key-parts-of-story-1421641124

u better explain this, this is an outrage!1

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best korea experts at turning fruits into vegetables

>>130106122
You need to stop your shitty belief that somehow justice will be served. Because NK isn't going anywhere, even if sanctions are successful. Its still going to be a communist hellhole for years to come.

Maybe in the distant future NK might unify with the south and become a free society, but don't hold your breath, because there are a lot of steps between here and there.

>>130106783
As I said on my source post Shin Dong-hyuk has recanted many parts of his story. His is older testimony and newer stories have come out. Its quite difficult to get the whole story and I go off the best info I can find.

>>130105796
>If he was a spy, there was little to gain by running a blatant young American tourist cover story

Could you explain what you mean? I don't follow. I actually think it fits quite well. Did he steal a poster? I don't know. Was he snooping on a restricted unmarked hotel floor? Stranger things have happened. Certainly, I think they expected him of espionage which is why they tortured him into this state. It cleanly explains why the US govt is quiet on the matter.

>>130107118
defectors want that book money my man.

>>130105575

Check back to: >>130088786

>>130106981
I know there's no justice to be served sadly. Obama was a weak cuck to NK and this was just part of the deal. I agree sanctions won't do anything. NK needs glassing or a complete leadership change with China's help.

A reunified Korea is the best outcome but requires China to play ball there too.

WTF? Shouldn't they have used a stretcher or something instead of dragging him?

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>>130106981
>south
>free

>>130107450
trash isn't taken out on a stretcher.

>>130107383
NK won't be glassed. You're fawning over a fantasy.

>>130107498
Still an improvement over the gulags.

I heard he was in shackles and cuffed for 15 months straight? Wouldn't that have some kind of effect on him?

>>130100613
>implying that the kid broke the law and NK didn't just make a story up

>>130107792
no, nothing to see here.

>>130107194
Ok. Meaning the cover story of your spy being a young American kid with NK handlers following him around is a weak cover story. I would expect either a Korean/American or someone appearing as the classic Russian/german tourist and passport - not American passport - to be used as a spy.

And no he didn't steal the poster. They claim to have footage of him putting it on the ground to steal later. NK torturing all prisoners for a month or so at first is a common theme in all stories of people who left due to health issues.

I think Obama did nothing because he was a weak effeminate leader who couldn't wrangle the Chinese or Koreans into doing anything other than laughing at him for the last year of his presidency.

>>130102780

So it's actually the same shit?

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>>130094499

>>130106981
>Maybe in the distant future NK might unify with the south and become a free society
I can guarantee that NK would never make a compromise like that. They are the proudest nationalists in the world. They don't even refer to themselves as North Koreans, they just call themselves Koreans since they see the south as a bunch of wannabe-American subhumans brainwashed by western propaganda.

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>>130103987
>I don't understand politics.
Ok.
Here's the Norwegian guy who actually serves the role that defense ministers serve in third world countries.

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>>130092366
You got it backwards Ivan, social interactions are what's making you dumber.

>>130082581

So why isn't he in a wheelchair?

Why was he dragged off the plane like that?

>>130102958
What did he mean by this?

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>>130098614

I respect him way too much to call him.

>>130108015
There was one story about an American prisoner who had to explain to the guards/handlers that people can own homes and cars in the US and that it is common. This runs against everything norks are told that America is the poorest/shittiest/worst country.

>>130108015
they wouldn't be wrong.

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>>130086225
based

>>130086290
well said

>>130102450
You're a cuckold who makes excuses for backwards third world shit holes walking all over our people. Its time for America to behead Kim Jong Un and destroy the country's leaders and those responsible.

If you dont agree get the fuck out of my country, cuck.

>>130108015
South Koreans don't refer to themselves as South Koreans either. SK is technically the Republic of Korea. NK is DPRK Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

SK call themselves hangooken, which just means our people. And they have a few other fancy ways of saying the great and powerful hangooken nation.

We are nowhere near any kind of reconciliation between NK and SK. That's a long road, don't hold your breath.

>>130108466
but america is a backwards shithole walking over its own people

>>130108466
Go suck John McCain's dick.

>>130108749
too far man.

>Trump declares war on North Korea
>Otto ""wakes up"" from his ""coma""
>He winks at his good friend Mr. Shekelstein
>More white American boys are sacrificed to fight a yellow man's war
One step closer to white genocide friends!
G E N I U S

>>130107912
Its only a weak cover story in a context outside of receiving some intel anywhere but that building. If the government wanted something from that building then its a great alibi.

Look at the poster he allegedly stole. It is at least the length of both doors adjacent to it. How would any young "bright" fellow expect to smuggle it out of the country? If that is him in the video, it looks much more like he is removing the poster to inspect behind it because he places it on the ground.

Both President Obama and his wife ran campaign and policy on nothing but personal image all 8 years. You think our beloved OB would waste an opportunity like this?

Even the kid's courtroom theatrics are forced.

>waaaaahhhhh boo hoo i just stole a little bit let me go.
some entitled little shit who doesnt think he has to follow the rules, classic millennial. rest in piss

>>130082581
anyone going to north korea is brain dead anyway, so there is very little difference for this guy
his father crying on tv should be in jail for treason, why the fuck do you send a student there....
hopefully this will remind libtards not to go in shithole countries

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>>130088384
Underrated.

>>130090332
The madman

>>130087165
Simple enough fix, don't go to NK.

>>130109204
>this will remind libtards not to go in shithole countries

What do you mean? They should all defect to the DPRK to be with their Marxist comrades.

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>>130098614
Who on God's green earth would have the balls to call Mad Dog up and tell him to "Go kick the shit out of Best Korea." Second thought, it's probably been his wet dream since he was twelve.

>>130110073
well yea, but i meant as a parent, why the fuck do you let your kid go there? are you retarded?

>>130110073
i don't want liberals near me

>>130110142
>let

>>130110142
Imagine this. You are upper middle class and have isolated your child from danger its whole life. You pay for your child to have a trip to China. When in China, your pillow padded idiot gets lured by a tour group touting trips into edgiest Korea. They never "let him" go there. They didn't buy his ticket to Pyongyang. They just gave him way too much crop on his world tour.

>>130110444

We're tired of dealing with them. It's you're fault they're this way. You should reeducate them. Please, take them all with you to the DPRK and live happily ever after.

>>130110579
ok sorry i did not know this was the story, but in any case the kid got what he deserved, no difference in brain activity before his nk trip and now

>>130109040
I dunno man, you seem like you're working backwards from a conclusion you want to be true. It's fairly common for police/prison guards in any country to fuck up and give somebody brain damage and then deny it.

>>130082581
they gav him stinky kimchi lol

>>130110673
no i insist that you take them, they have capitalistic interests and smell funny.

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Whether or not you like this guy, at least respect the fact that he was sacrificed for a good cause. Not a quick sacrifice either, but a slow and hellish one.

Don't go to NK if you don't want bad shit to happen to you. /thread

>>130110924
>no i insist that you take them, they have capitalistic interests and smell funny.

How about this: ditch them when you all get to the DPRK. Inform on them the first chance you get. Lie if you must.

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>>130085663
this guy was literally kidnapped and put on a show trial...

>>130090332
exploding_sides.jpg

>>130110676
If you believe the NK state description of the events as well as the western media's color then yeah he got what he deserved.

>>130110744
It's fairly common for chemists since 1989 to work backwards from a conclusion they want. I noticed that one anon was playing Occam's razor, and I asked him to show how my scenario was more complicated. It was more a challenge to highlight his own inconsistencies than to get confirmation bias on something I don't necessarily believe. I thought I did a pretty good job. I guess you don't.

>>130111189
i refuse to breathe in the same air as them, i don't want to catch liberal ideology; you should take full responsibility for fellow capitalists in need, friend.

>>130111608
>If you believe the NK state description of the events as well as the western media's color then yeah he got what he deserved.

It takes neither to believe that he got what he deserved. Any Americunt that steps foot in the DPRK, a country still at war with the US, demonstrates a level of ignorance that is deserving of a darwin award.

>>130108134
He's a dumb yankee with a gut filled with fermenting mayonnaise and ranch, pay him no mind.

>>130111733
>i refuse to breathe in the same air as them

I will personally pay for your scuba gear to ensure their delivery to the DPRK.

>>130111873
Ok so then we go back to the hypothetical that he was a state actor and knew exactly what he was getting into. You don't know, I don't know so why talk shit on the guy? Do you strive for the same social capital that leftists do by circle jerking on /pol/ about how cool it is that someone got lobotomized for doing a thing?

>>130088247
100% I mean he deliberately brought his "quietest boots, the best for sneaking" to help him accomplish his "crime-task" of stealing a poster from a hotel in exchange for " a used car worth $10,000".

With a confession like that how could you even have a doubt that he was guilty.

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>>130112115
i regret to inform you that im scheduled for a hysterectomy on whatever day that you wish me to ship the liberals to nk, you must be the one to take care of them in your own country.

>>130098614
Why would he have a Tampa number?

>>130112346
>You don't know, I don't know so why talk shit on the guy? Do you strive for the same social capital that leftists do by circle jerking on /pol/ about how cool it is that someone got lobotomized for doing a thing?

I doubt your state actor conspiracy theory on account that it would be the dumbest fucking mission known to mankind.

Why talk shit on the guy? He is yet another example of burgers being retarded. In this case, the consequences are severe. Did he deserve his fate? No, of course not, but what kind of sheltered existence did that stupid cocksucker have to live to think that going to the DPRK as an Americunt was a good idea?

I don't think it's cool that the stupid fuck is a vegetable, but I do think he should serve as a warning to other burgers that the DPRK ain't nothing to fuck with, unless you espouse marxism, then please go there immediately.

>>130088247
Literally just watch the video. It absolutely reeks of NK level hollywood AND you can't even tell if it's even fucking him.

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>>130112748
>hysterectomy

Shit, I can't compete with that. Maybe it will be easier to convince them to send themselves to the DPRK.

We're gonna start bombing the shit out of north korea again!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryongchon_disaster

AMERICA FUCK YEAH.

>>130086762
KILL YOURSELF

>>130092197
What the fuck can he do?

>>130092366
Everyday I pray to be unable to comprehend my suffering

>>130112974
Your expression of doubt means that you don't know. So you also don't know that he wasn't retarded. State actor or not, he still becomes a warning sign, so why even bother believing that he got what he deserved?

>>130112883
SOCOM and CENTCOM are both at MacDill. Not his number, but still a reason why.

>>130087165
>US Government: We advise you to not go to NK

>Otto: It's cool, I'm a millenial and we always get what we want. I'll have Kim Jong Un eatin out of my hand

>US Government: No, serisously, they will imprison you and we cant help you

>Otto: Nah, check this out. These backwards stone age idiots wont even notice me taking their propaganda poster. I will be a hero on reddit for posting this

>>130113404
i doubt that will work unless you tell them that north koreans just need a strong talking to about how socialism doesn't work and that they should finally accept western liberals as their moral superiors.

>>130090418
Zero. It's like what happens when someone has a heart attack and isn't defibrillated within a few minutes: Brain gets so hypoxic that it starts dying.

He's "alive" and probably has enough brain function that he can't legally have life support withdrawn, but yeah, he's toast.

Honestly it sounds like someone tried to Burke him: Kneeling on the chest to keep him from breathing. Good, low-trauma way to suffocate someone. Even smothering causes more damage.

>>130113967
>Your expression of doubt means that you don't know. So you also don't know that he wasn't retarded. State actor or not, he still becomes a warning sign, so why even bother believing that he got what he deserved?


I just said that I don't believe that he got what he deserved. Whether or not I know if he is a state agent is irrelevant. I'm entitled to my doubts. You're the one who has to prove the claim of the most retarded spy infiltration of NK in the history of the world.

>>130114325
>about how socialism doesn't work

Ameriburger liberals are marxist socialists. I wish liberals thought that centralized economic planning doesn't work.

>>130114846
you take that back.

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>>130115024
>you take that back.

The truth hurts.

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>>130115422
infinite gulag wouldnt even be enough for this atrocity

>>130114566
>It takes neither to believe that he got what he deserved
>Did he deserve his fate? No, of course not

The free market can't solve this one, and you expected me to do it?

>You're the one who has to prove the claim of the most retarded spy infiltration of NK in the history of the world
>Non evidence countered with non evidence
>N-no! The burden is yours! I'm right because I say so!

>>130102776
>So you think a trial for 15 years of prison is to be taken at the state's word? And we can have proof but hey doesnt matter if we dont show it - the kid must be guilty.
What does it matter? It is NK soil so NK laws apply. If their law states that anything from a fine to a death by firing squad is lawful even in a case of where only proof is somebody's words, then it is both lawful and righteous to cause brain damage to somebody for being on their country.

>>130115663
>The free market can't solve this one, and you expected me to do it?

Where is there inconsistency. Just because neither needs to be believed to suggest that he got what he deserved doesn't therefore mean that I think he literally got what he deserved. I'm just not sympathetic. While he didn't deserve his fate, he seriously dun goofed and I don't feel sorry for him on account that he ought to have known better.

>N-no! The burden is yours! I'm right because I say so!

The burden of proof rests with the claimant, senpai.

>>130115589

Now will you take them to the DPRK?

https://youtu.be/w1uyzOe4Smk

>>130116061
why don't we shove them onto a rocket and into the sun?

>>130116316

The DPRK is more capable of that than I am.

>>130116481
i thought capitalists like you have a lot of money, surely you can afford your own rocket?

>>130116569

Technically, I'm a market anarchist. I'm actually against what you call capitalism. Also, I'm nearly a pauper.

>>130116024
>Where is there inconsistency
"Did he deserve his fate? No, of course not" doesn't make it expressly clear that this is a statement of fact or how you feel. If you had said, "Did he deserve his fate? No, of course I don't think so" then it would have been more clear that you weren't outright reversing your original stance instead of injecting appeals to emotion into it.

>The burden of proof rests with the claimant, senpai
Which claimant? The claimant that claimed this burger was non-literally retarded or the claimant that claimed that you can't know that he wasn't retarded?

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>>130082581
Koreans Fried Crispy!!!

>>130116894
My god man!!! You are a Trans Capitalist..........

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>>130116894
we're both peasants then, so there is nothing we can do to get rid of all these liberals.

>>130116895
>outright reversing your original stance instead of injecting appeals to emotion into it.

My opinion on the matter is literally not an argument nor was it intended to be as such.

>Which claimant?
The claimant of the US intelligence agent theory. It's a cute pet theory, but that is all it is.

>>130117135
>My god man!!! You are a Trans Capitalis

I lol'd. Don't tell the ancaps that I'm a better representative of their beliefs than they are or else they'll sperg out with Hoppe and helicopters full autist style.

>>130117222
>we're both peasants then, so there is nothing we can do to get rid of all these liberals.

Can't argue with trips, but I have a feeling that there is potential in social engineering them into the DPRK like lemmings off of a cliff.

>>130090332

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>130117495
seize their belief system, quasi-comrade.

>>130117337
>My opinion on the matter is literally not an argument nor was it intended to be as such

There has been nothing but non argument in this entire chain. That's what I've been trying to get across to you this entire time. Now if you will please tell me which non argument necessitating a burden of proof chronologically came first with respect to our conversation: any American going to North Korea needing a darwin award or state actor pet theory.

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>>130117698

cheers

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>>130090332
so bad but so good

>>130117850

A claim that he was an intelligence agent is a claim of fact about the world.

Technically whether or not he deserved his fate is also an argument with regard to moral claims having objectivity, too. I just don't feel like defending them, so I'm simply considering them my opinion at this time.

>>130108635
You're a backwards shithole and should be removed from this existance post haste, my man.

>>130118311
A claim that he was retarded is a claim of fact about the world.

Moral and objectivity don't fit into the same framework of logic without a divine being, which I don't believe in, so I can't place any input on that technicality.

>>130118800
if u kill yourself first i will join you swiftly thereafter trust me on this

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>>130082581
>TFW in a persistent unresponsive wakeful state

>>130087165
>went to NK to steal a propo poster for $10,000 to give to a friend's mom.
Never underestimate the power of pussy, kid probably thought it would get him laid.

Still, that sucks though. Is he in a coma because of shit nutrition, exposure to the elements or from getting his ass beat by his fellow inmates?

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>>130118932
You have a hammer & sickle in your flag. You some kinda commie? Commies are gay, nobody likes em.

Bump-a-rump

>>130118879
>A claim that he was retarded is a claim of fact about the world.

You're right. I'm just not willing to defend it right now.

>Moral and objectivity don't fit into the same framework of logic without a divine being

What if, instead of deferring to a divine being and the notion of the supernatural, we instead appeal to the logical structure of reality itself? It seems to me that you can have an objective morality in such a case and avoid irrational misgivings of divinity. Otherwise, all atheists are moral relativists, and that doesn't sit right.

>>130107498
This is what happens when men opt out of society to focus on gaming/anime - literal fucking feminist death cults.

>>130119302
im whatever you want me to be, baby

>>130086507
*basketball-american

>>130086225
you should drink some bleach to make sure your mind and imagination doesnt get swayed

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>>130090332
Ayyyyyyyyyyy

>>130087165
no he def did it, I would be tempted to too.

Best Korea is just batshit insane and there is no way to justify his punishment. I literally do think we should go back to war over it. No fucking way any american would be treated that way and get away with it if I were in charge. If i was a congressman I would be very publicly advocating for war against NK today. its long overdue. It should never have gotten this bad.

>>130090332
broke my month long lurk streak just to comment on this

if you guys love this shitty country so much, live in it faggots

enjoy eating rice and water everyday, salt is a luxury there

>>130119328
I don't know exactly. I would have to read more literature because its beginning to get outside of anything I've been exposed to. For now, I would say that I can't know that reality is purely logical because there are yet aspects of it left undiscovered. I just don't believe in sky daddies. Maybe there are supernatural forces at work just not "gods" if that makes any sense.

>>130082581
get lobotomy
wait 12 months soo that theres no torture marks,
send him back
profit.

>>130091467
Shitskins do worse tha this almost everyday in america

>>130087165
I agree they deff probably set him up or something. But also like everyone is saying just to drive the point home:

if you travel to North Korea you get whatever is coming to you

>>130119928
>if you guys love this shitty country so much, live in it faggots
we are not worthy anon, we klnow it.
we are not somalis that are destroying europe.

>Be taken off steady diet of carcinogen-filled burgers and fluoridated tap water for first time in life
>Brain panics and flat lines

Poor Americans.

>>130087165
first of all are foremost, if you travel to NK you deserve it.
one cant look at best korea and think
oh looks like a promising land of freedon vey
i want to go on vacation there.

if you have half a working neuron you would not go there.
>if you go to another country you need to obey their laws.
you're subjected to all this shit as soon as you get out of the airport.

>>130088801
Wut

>>130107825
>implying it wasent still his fault for being there in the first place