De Facto German colony

pay dents

>>130068102
Gregorios, if you can't pay denbts just sack some turkish territory

>>130068102
Pay detnbs Papadopoulos, we need to pay Ahmed and Mbumbos benefits

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>>130068102
>Borrowing money and thinking you don't have to pay it back
>Letting yourself ever think that Germany had abandoned its goal for Euro domination.

They just had to do it through economic means. Now you're a German colony. Deal with it.

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>>130068102
>made to pay for unending cycles of bailouts

>>130068102
Germany will never agree to debt relief because than other countries will ask for the same treatment, like Ireland, Spain and Portugal for instance. Problem is this is actually the right solution instead of austerity but Germany and France will never allow it. Its not a good thing to have a huge trade or government budget surplus either, surplus countries need debtors. If it wasn't for the Greek bail out than Germany's big banks would have collapsed most likely and Germany being the ruler of Europe would never allow that to happen.

>>130068947
It's the sad sad truth but I just can't stand being disrespected. It would have been better to collapse as an economy and get back on our feet after 5-6+ years than this whole thing.

>>130068102
Stephanaculous are fucked, pay up bitchez.

>>130069573
Would be better for all of us, except too-big-too-fail banks.
I'm feeling you greek bro, the German and EU leadership make me want to get out the ol' guillotine.

>>130068102
Muh glorious Mediterraneans

>>130069573
It's not about being disrespected. It's about setting an example as the Eurogroup to the other countries. Namely, change your Economies according to our model meaning getting more productive by lowering wages instead of using inflation as you used to rely on. Greece is doomed for generations. You should have kept Varoufakis in charge.

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>>130068947
Good thing us and our glorious ally America have military bases all over Europe. Making sure those Krauts get BTFO instantly should they decide to fuck with us again.

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>>130069573
As a greek, what are your thoughts on the Golden Dawn party?

>>130070533
They won't, they're in NATO and have found a better way of putting their will on Europe, economical dominance.

>>130069979

Find your guillotine, I am grabbing my gun.

>>130070395

When Tsipras first got cucked he just kicked Varoufakis out of the equation. That's how cucked my country is right now and it's the fucking worse. Day of resistance when?

>>130070960
Didn't Varoufakis quit on his own terms because the Greeks voted YES for a bailout by the Eurogroup? Or was it because the Greek banks were held hostage?

>>130070705

Too much hassling for nothing, meaning that they make a lot of noise without actually contributing. Almost close to Antifa levels of violence without meaning, it's like they want to trigger the public opinion just for the fuck of it. Although nowadays quite a few people do support them but they hide their true power level.

They are the openly vouching though that they will stop the refugee influx but you know...Tsipras promised that he would get us out of the EU and did nothing. They are even less serious so how can I take them seriously? I believe that if they weren't scaring people away they would have many many more votes generally. They really could

>>130068102
We have bought you honestly.

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>>130068102
pay denbts.

>>130071440

>Didn't Varoufakis quit on his own terms because the Greeks voted YES for a bailout by the Eurogroup?

Tsipras actually called him to his office and they had a dispute over how to handle things, Varoufakis wanted to do things differently and further challenge the EU and bargain etc.

Tsipras had already started backing away from challenging anyone anymore, he got scared of the economic consequences of leaving the EU, so word on the street is that he simply kicked Varoufakis out of the party. Of-course the media made it look like he left on his own terms but that wasn't the real case.

>>130071738
Show yourself Europe-fag

>>130068102
I am sad for greece also bro. A once great nation, now reduced to the degeneracy of communistic marxist ideas.

I see alot of vids on greece, and so much 'anarchists' and 'communists' are everywhere running rampant in the streets. It is a fucking shame. Greek bros stand up and start a militia or something.

>>130072082
Surprise.

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>>130071440
Greeks voted for Grexit basically. He had to either turn greece into somalia for the next 50 years, or agree despite what the Greeks voted for, which would hurt his reputation. So he quit and blamed Tsipras for pussying out.

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>>130072222
A wild ahmed appears.

>>130072097
>I am sad for greece also bro. A once great nation, now reduced to the degeneracy of communistic marxist ideas.
People get desperate in desperate times you know. I can't blame them for hoping for a better future even if the one they believe isn't the right one.

>I see alot of vids on greece, and so much 'anarchists' and 'communists' are everywhere running ramant in the streets

These people know they have no future whatsoever in current day Greece and will not have one for the next 30 years at least. Again they get so desperate even anarchism looks better than the current situation.

>>130072439
*Sorbian

My people have lived longer in Germany than Germans.

>>130068102
dooooooooooooooooooooo ittttttttttttttttttt

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>>130072222

Wew lad

>>130072475
left ideolgy is what put them in that situation in the first place. calling for more left ideology is just making things worse. Literally, left ideology is the shared misery of the people equally.

nationalism is the only cure for such things. whatever happend to golden dawn?

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>>130071585
You mentioned that many are now supporting the party, could you see them being a serious contender in you next national elections?

>>130072475

While it's true what you are writing, Germany didn't create this situation on purpose, but was sorta dragged into it.

>>130068102
What are you talking about? EU just confirmed another € 8,5 billion for Greece

http://www.telegraaf.nl/dft/nieuws_dft/28402186/__Miljardensteun_voor_Athene__.html

>>130073003
Bassically Greece gets free money from the EU so it can continue making payments to the EU

>>130072953
Germany knew damn well that that Greece wasn't going to be able to pay it back themselves before the bailout plan. The biggest creditors of Greece are both Germany and France and they are the ones that refuse debt relief because it would affect them negatively even though they know that debt relief is the only solution for the Greece problem. The debt to GDP ratio just keeps on rising and rising, foreign investment in Greece is nothing and is decreasing every day because there is no trust in a better future.

>>130072367
>He had to either turn greece into somalia for the next 50 years

Leaving the Eurozone would drastically lower your purchasing power ... but so did staying in the Eurozone. It's a desperate situation.

>>130073237
It's not free. It's still a loan. It's a loan that will be used to repay other loans.

>>130072950

Not yet leaf-bro, not yet. As I mentioned above, they are gaining momentum since they have something to build upon and argue since the refugee influx happened.
Now since leftist ideology is still quite ingrained in a large number of Greeks I do not believe that they could be a serious contender yet.You will be branded and pointed out if you mention that you support GD out in the open by other Greeks<<< It is still like a taboo.

The good thing now is that people trusted in Tsipras and he let them down, the hard way. This means that nobody buys the "we did our best but they did not back down excuse". If things get more tight with the immigrants I could see this happen in the future.

>>130072367
BRAAAAP

>>130068102
But Germany is a de facto globalist colony, so you are actually under globalist NWO rule.

>>130072891
Nationalism isn't an economic model, retard. What you probably mean is fascism, state-management of the economy, which is, actually, more of a left wing idea, and it offers no solution whatsoever to Greece's problem or any country because everywhere is locked into global markets.

>>130073434
At the point we knew that Greece needs a bailout, our government started acting immorally, that's true.
What I meant is that we couldn't foresee how Southern Europe would trap itself in a debt spiral.

>>130073931
It's true what you're saying. But that doesn't make it right to punish Greece for your bad judgement on a bad investment namely Greece or southern European countries. The banks in Germany get bailed out for having made bad decisions while Greece stays bleeding on the ground.

>>130073931
>how Southern Europe would trap itself in a debt spiral
Should have never been let in and things might be way less of a mess for everyone.

>>130068102
Greece is slowly dying out and this is happening to the whole Balkan with each passing year and we are next.
Touche.

>>130073525
It's free

De eurogroep keurde de nieuwe uitbetaling goed nadat de baas van het Internationaal Monetair Fonds (IMF), Christine Lagarde, deelname van het IMF aan het Griekse steunprogramma had beloofd, onder voorwaarde van -> toekomstige schuldverlichting <- voor de Grieken. Het IMF meent dat de schuld onhoudbaar is.

http://politiek.tpo.nl/2017/06/15/85-miljard-euro-naar-griekenland-pvv-opmaken-aan-souvlaki-en-ouzo-en-vervolgens-om-bijstand-vragen/

>>130074105
Portraying it as if we were the only creditors is wrong, as well. We're only one of several main creditors in Greece and Ireland and actually play a very minor role in the Italian or Spanish bond markets.
I would also argue that both credits and debtors made bad decisions. Like, no one forced the Greeks to take so many loans.

>>130068102

> while my country is being held hostage and made to pay for unending cycles of bailouts.

wwwwait wait wait. See whos failt is it, that u greeks threw your money out with open arms and ran into dept like idiots ?
Germay's or Greeks ? The answer is Greek(s politicias ).
Aktually it's pretty kind of whoever, if they lend u money ( and stupid, since : see what u did before ).

nevertheless, stop poiting fiders at EU's or Germans or whoever people.
Point it at the real source of the problem : politicians. It's not the people; not your's, not other coutries.
the problem is AAAAALLLLLWWWAAAYS the same : politicians.

( and just fyi : i hate and spit o EU, Merkel,... and ALL politicians; THEY steal and waste OUR money.
So pls ret the problem right. So u will also get the soolutio right )).

Greetings

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>>130070533
We wouldn't even need those bases tbqh
Hold them off for 48 hours so the US fleet could mobilize and we win

>>130074298
Wat is die Geert ook eigenlijk echt een onbenul op het gebied van economische zaken zeg.

>>130068102
germany is a colony of the usa.

>>130074170
Italy was a founding member and Greece one of the early members of the EU as well.
What you mean is probably the Eurozone, though. Whoever enters the EU is also guided to enter the Eurozone as well.

>>130074453

I agree with you, I have no faith in politicians whatsoever. I loathing the whole political scene but I keep coming back to it. More people need to be awakened.

>>130074666
>the Eurozone
yep that's I meant.
How do you see the chances of European countries returning to their old currencies in the future?

>>130074968
Probably the Euro crashing one day...

>>130072620
>My people have lived longer in Germany than Germans.

Did they thaw out of the glaciers after the ice age?

>>130075247

I wish my country can collapse so we can finally get a chance to get on our feet and along with everyone else to give them a huge middle finger, you are welcome to join us. I would be glad

>>130068102
Your literal only option is to go full Hitler. Not gas Jews necessarily, but cut yourself off from the global economy, make the necessary domestic changes to provide for your own food, clothing, and construction, then use a new currency backed by not much besides nationalism and cultural celebration to create a modern industry that makes money and train your work force.

Put on a facade of Helenistic traditionalism or whatever instead of fascism.

>>130075613

This is going to happen before or after we get invaded by every other country surrounding us?
Burger please....

>>130074996

Extremely low. This would require:
1. Around five years (optimistic estimate) of law and digital infrastructure adjustments, since the ECB is deeply ingrained in every monetary operation, which is mostly digital. It took us years to adopt this currency, and it will take years to drop it.
2. MASSIVE, UNIMAGINABLE capital flight into the remaining strong Euro countries, like Germany and the Netherlands. Since absolutely no investor wants his lifetime savings to be converted into Drachma or Lira, which will devalue into oblivion the first day they're announced.
3. Bankruptcy. With a currency that's weak and constantly dropping against the Euro, it'll be (even more) impossible to repay the debt denominated in Euros. Bankruptcy means you won't get any foreign currency as a loan or exchange anytime soon, since your obligations are worth nothing.
4. This, in turn, means that the bankrupt state won't be able to buy anything to abroad. The end for the Italian industry, which imports most of its energy and raw materials. Catastrophic for Greece, which imports almost anything necessary for survival.

This is what Tsipras feared, ultimately. It would turn Greece into Albania.

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>>130073914
Yes, well I mean National Socialism to be honest.

Germany was in the shit after ww1, look at what Hitler did for the people there.

>>130068102
The reason you don't get a cut is because the market would shit itself like back in 2008... muuuh our ritch vulture fond which bought this bond at 5% will never buy European bonds again.... Portugal and Spain would once again get butt fucked with ridiculous interest..

So please Greece... just suffer a little more so the rest of the west can pretend everything is fine for some moments more....

>>130068947
LoL ask your finance minister he's even more rabid about this issue than schäuble.

>>130075597
he is talking shit

while it is true that Sorbs live for a very long time in Germany they actuall came with the slavic migration phase which started in the 6th century

meanwhile the germanic migration in modern Germany started probably around 1000 BC

>>130076480
dont destroy my truth

If you love Europe,you hate EU.
Period.
Bankers and politicinans knew this would have happened,they made greece enter EU with tricks.
fuck the eu

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Germany eternally BTFO, U.S. & U.K. bases all over your country!!!! wewewewewlad!

>>130076368
I don't agree with Dijsselbloem either if you are saying that.

>>130076009
>look at what Hitler did for the people there.
Got them killed?

Hitler was the Man Against Time. Expecting or even wanting a repetition of that mad, crazy, impossible dream is retarded. The US is a military-state serving the interests of its multinational corporations, and the EU is diplomatically the same thing. The reason Hitler is impressive is because he almost accomplished a miracle by defying finance and bankers, so to say Greece should do the same you might as well recommend they use alchemy to turn their debt into bars of gold.

>>130076755

Based Italy, well spoken and checked

>>130076755
Greece entered with falsified numbers and an artificially lower debt created by Goldman Sachs. Goldman Sachs actually bought Greek bonds knowing they were crap and insured against them at AIG making huge profits. Goldman Sachs is not the one to blame for this crisis, but definitely one who extended it for an unnecessary amount of time.

>>130076786
I just don't like it how other northern Europeans hide behind us even though their stance on Greece is the same or worse.

>>130071738
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>>130072222

checked

>>130076755
Germans wanted to prolong the alignment phase for Greece... because of their structural deficits.... Great Britain, France and the Us pushed for fast tracking the process..

Greece is actually a lost cause.

There are of course good, intelligent , hard working Greeks but most of them move out of this shithole because it is not worth it.

My half-greek uncle started a business there and failed because he often did never see the money from greek clients. He later moved to Germany and opened up another store, this time a tattoo shop and he is flourishing. He said it would have never worked that way in Greece.In Germany people pay in advance if you know that you are good, in Greece you can be glad if you get paid at all.

It is filled with corruption and nepotism and the majority of peoples there lived for decades under the illusion that having huge private debts will have no consequences in the future. I was there many times before the real crisis started, lots of people bought brandnew german cars like they think they could afford it and mimic richer western countries.

Now that the crisis hits them hard, many act like it is Germanys fault for all the misery while the nucleus of the problem was greek actually.

Once again, I feel bad for the righteous, hardworking Greeks but I feel not too much pity for those who contributed to this mess.

>>130076939
Had it not been for war they would have been great. I am talking pre ww2. Hitler made the economy amazing. The people had a purpose in life. Everyone was happy and reclaimed themselves after the treaty of versaille and the treatment of germans in general after ww1.

NatSoc doesn't have to involve war, remember. It was France and England who declared war on Germany. It was self defense facist bro.

The 'invasion' of austria and western poland was only to reclaim the ethnic germans, austria complied and endorsed Hitler, it was not an invasion. As for Poland, the polish government was persecuting and killing ethnic germans because of ww1. Hitler told them to stop, or give them back their ethnic Germans. Poland did not stop, and continued persecuting them.

The war was in self defense.

>>130075918
Wow...ok. So in other words they got themselves trapped real good. It's either slow death or instant total crash.

>>130077797
It's a crash for any could try daring to leave the EU or Eurozone. The only reason why the UK takes so long to leave the EU and why they got that fine is to set an example for other countries of what happens when you leave the European Union.

>>130077719
It's not. There just is no easy solution.

>>130077719
That's a silly line of thought. Should we simply give up on the world because it's unfixable and let everybody live in Germany?

>>130077797
Ecb baught many Greek bonds... they could void them. This would still lead to moral hazard and is technically illegal.

>>130078046
>>130078320
should have said for short term

so at least for the next 10-20 years will be very hard for Greece

>>130068102
Heads up. Devils aiming at the sky.

Rolling

>>130078497
But the thing is is that that's the only thing that will create more trust in Greece as an economy for foreign investors. The only solution will be debt relief and everyone knows it. It's already not able to pay back the debt currently and the debt keeps on rising. Within 5 years the debt to GDP ratio will be 200%

>>130078320
He said hard-working greeks. Don't see why anyone would want to live in a country where everyone's trying to fuck you over.

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You know what's good for a shitty economy

War

Start a war with a shitty country like Albania or Malta or something and watch those dollars flow in

Make Greece Great Again

>>130075599
We have hopped on the train and the next station is the EU, unfortunately. I just hope we won't do the same mistakes you did aswell. You Greeks really need to upstart something, I hate to see you slowly bleed out.

>>130078951
This is not true. The only profitable war is one you fight not on your own territory or close to it.

>>130078951
Albania,if they attack malta we have to intervene.
i don't want to attack greece (last time retarded decision were taken)

>>130068947
French banks had the biggest exposure to Greek bonds followed by Italy.... However the crater PNB parisbas would have created would have fucked European banking for good...

>>130068102
the rescue measures where forced not asked by greecs nor their goverment.
Germany literally fucked you in the ass to rescue their banks.

>>130079321
Obviously. But again, German and French banks were already showing signs of moral hazard by lending Greece so much money even though they knew Greece wasn't able to pay them back. If Europe came together and bailed Greece out, France and Germany would have been saved, but Greece wouldn't have gotten any further. Just debts going from one place to another but the end situation remains the same. But yet no one is punishing BNP Paribas or Deutsche Bank for these malpractices.

>>130079626

I was just hoping that an agreement would not be met during the referendum days and we would have to leave on our own, or get kicked out. Whatever worked best, did not happen in the end

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>>130078497
When is the Eurozone bound to crush considering more Brazil-tier economy tier countries will join?

>>130078749
There are other solutions... we could just throw money at them.their econ is smaller than that of the federal state Saarland.... but their has to be some restructuring of the EU and greece..

>>130068102
you and whole southern and Eastern Europe are german slaves

I'm spending 3 weeks in Greece in August, how many women could I buy for 100 euro in cash money

>>130080372
>pirate
are you british?

>>130080140
Throwing money at them is also a solution yes. But then you'd end up with a situation like the United States where richer states are funding the deficits of poorer states.

>>130079978
For Europe and the Eurozone to work we need a United States of Europe. But that will never work because of the low level of solidarity amongst EU countries. People in Germany will not oblige as easy to support poor Greece as California does to support Alabama for example. Cultural differences, language barriers and all that stuff hinders the Eurozone to work. It's not an optimal currency area.

>>130079626
Have you looked at their stock value recently? They took a beating...

>>130068102

The only way to get your dignity back is to achieve Grexit and tell the krauts to go fuck themselves.

>>130080446

no

>>130080372
Whores? They range from 10 bucks in Metaxourgeio to 100+ in other places. Are we talking about greek girls? Hope you are not dark skinned cause they are getting pickier by the minute ;^)

>>130068102
Im glad your country is sucking the krautcucks money.

Please do anything you can to make it worse. Spread fear and misinformation is needed.

>>130078951
Your muh economy isn't worth dying for.
>mom yanks your computer's power cord out of the wall, losing your high score forevar

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>>130080512
So basically everything that is not Netherlands and Germany will be slaves forever?

>>130080788
We are only getting fucked in the end mate, we have to give said money back with interest. I am pretty sure I am not the only one trying to get red-pilled in the economic ways of the EU in my country though..

>>130068102
>waaaah my country is an economic hostage

Maybe if your govt was competent they would have taxed their citizens like the rest of the world.

Enjoyed the failed state, Muslims and forgotten epic heritage Stupidopilopidus.

>>130068102
Hey George, I got some some family over there and on crete. Seriously, what's your daily life like? What do you do for a living? I hear most of Greece relies on farming and Athens is shit cause it's crowded with brown.

>>130068102
The only way to rescue yourself from humiliation is to kick Germans out, kick illegal invaders out, and tell the EU to fuck right off. You used to lead Europe, you fucking created Western Civilisation, don't ever let them shit on you.

>>130076755
Thank you.

>>130080965

Are you a roach flag-fag?

>>130080965
You will get what is coming for you in the end so enjoy what you have right now.

>>130080835
americans are the most cancerous people.
zero understanding of how the world works. the ones that do are out fucking it.

>>130080883
In the current system pretty much yes. We profit greatly from the low valued Euro for our standards but the southern European countries would benefit from an even lower valued currency to boost their export position instead of lowering wages drastically. The only way the Eurozone will work is if countries converge both economically and politically. But this will never happen.

>>130081249

> The only way the Eurozone will work is if countries converge both economically and politically.

Meaning globalism? Or something new and without a name?

>>130081357
Basically a United States of Europe with one government, no borders within these countries and the same tax rates.

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>>130068102

>I am so angry that my country is in this state and is being disrespected by all of you, you just cannot imagine. I do not want to beg for gibs no more, I am sick and tired of all the money-politics games that are being played while my country is being held hostage and made to pay for unending cycles of bailouts.

Find who and what caused the Greek economy fucked up.

1. Tax evasion and corruption
2. Government spending
3. Data credibility
4. Government debt and deficit
nuff said.

Pro-tip: It is not EU. Just Greek (((people)))

>>130081761

You really believe we could all share a common government? We are all coming from different cultures and are ethnically diverse with our own quirks etc etc

>>130081985
No ofcourse we can't. I don't believe in that. I strongly believe a two current system in Europe would work so much better. A N(orth)euro and a S(outh)euro. To fit for both economic systems. A United States of Europe will never work because of the intertwined differences in culture, people and economies.

>>130082187
Current=Currency

>>130068102
OP, I hate to break it to you, but your country's ancient history is just that...ancient. For 2,000 years your nation has only existed as a client state of a larger benefactor.
>Rome
>Byzantium
>Ottoman Turks
Now it's the EU with Germany at it's head. This is keeping with your history for two millennia.

>>130068467
>sack some turkish territory
This guy got it half right
We have a fuck huge army in comparison with most of EU countries(including Germs) because of Turkish rivalry
I say we torpedo the dams of Netherlands for fun and then land in Hamburg
We also make a deal with Turks, give them the Kastelorizo EEZ and they help us by using their roaches to riot in Germany, split the profit and wifus

>>130081888

In order for a country to work properly both the people and the state have to co-operate. My people stole from the state because there was never a bloody state to begin with. I am not justifying them stealing but nobody was there to police what was going on. And we are not Finnish or Norwegian in terms of respect to other our peers. You can find more solidarity amongst the people in islands like Crete or southern Pelopinisos

>>130077770
And why did America, France, England rattle for war against Germany? Because Germany defied finance, the bankers and the global market. Of course National Socialism leads to war. The bank-controlled, newspaper-manipulated countries were inevitably going to find a pretext for war. Mein Kampf is a manifesto of fighting such an enemy. Hitler knew and prepared for it. You can't have the pre-World War II German peace uninterrupted; they will come for you, and you have to defend yourself. To tell Greece to nazify themselves is retarded, ridiculous advice completely misunderstanding the global situation.

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>>130068102
Greek will pay either way

>>130068102
either pay denbts or grexit already

everyone else is tired of your whiny bullshit

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>>130082324

>I say we torpedo the dams of Netherlands for fun and then land in Hamburg

>Germany, split the profit and wifus

The whole block heard me

>>130082324
No one will touch my goddamn dykes and polders.

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>>130082604
>Eurogroup signs for debt ease

Its over Hans, rest of them got tired of your austerity shit

Join V4 and fuck the EU and Germany.They made it more than clear that they cant be argued with and that Germany sees the EU as muttis reich and is not willing to negotiate on that.

>>130081888
It is not only grreek fault, It is europe union fault too.for the end they need to leave out of this union, the same way for Italy Spain, Portugal etc

Brits were the smartest people here, sadly they gonna get fucked by Germans now

>>130082843
I'm not talking about money gyros.

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>>130068102
In the land of spineless betas and welfare leeches, Germoney is the Cuck King.

>>130083862
Exactly fucking this, when will this train ever crush.

>>130068102
this is the natural order, even in ancient times the germanic man owned the greek people

>>130068102
I understand your anger and frustration.

You put your money into the wrong basket - and faggot with a messiah complex who would rather provoke the people his country owes money to than work with them.

>>130082843
It's not about money or austerity, it's about making sure you guys stay disciplined (and motivated) until you learn to balance your budget.

>>130084346
The demands of the Eurogroup were most definitely austerity of 3-4% a year. Can't remember the exact figure but it was one of the demands of the Eurogroup 100%.

>>130068102
The problem with Greece is that none of you ever takes any responsibility. Your politicians ruined your society. Your voters voted for them because they operated a society on a completely unrealistic basis. And yet you blame the countries that are fiscally responsible for what you yourself did. The only reason northern countries "disrespect" you is your nigger-tier way of running your country. Do you respect how the likes of Robert Mugabe run their countries? If not, stop complaining; and if you do, then you've downgraded from mediterraniggerdom to absolute niggerdom.

>>130076009
>Germany was in the shit after ww1, look at what Hitler did for the people there.

This meme needs to be addressed. I've seen 100 infographics talking about how "Germany was one of the poorest countries in Europe when Hitler came to power," which, even if true (and I doubt that) is incredibly misleading.

Germany was the premier industrial power for most of the 50 years prior to WW1. The penury following the war was an anomaly, a direct consequence of the crushing reparations they had to pay. If Hitler had done nothing else other than refuse to pay, that would have been enough for Germany to rise rapidly back into prominence.

Greece today is not like Weimar Germany. Germany had huge industrial capacity, tremendous scientific innovation and a skilled workforce. Greece has tourism and a civil service that all take early retirement.

>>130084066
Poland gets the equivalent of the ENTIRE MARSHALL PLAN, all to itself, EVERY YEAR

>>130085805
>greece has tourism and civil service
The same with Spain and Portugal, those countries look really fucked.

They better get their shit out

>>130086862
They can't and they are gone, the Balkans are fucked aswell.

>>130086862
Spain and Portugal are recovering pretty well honestly. You should be more alarmed about the Italian economy right now.

>>130077719
>My half-greek uncle
So you must be at least a quarter Greek, right?
I'd call that a Kanake.