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I'm a Russian. And I want to be natsoc. I agree with a lot of their ideas. However, you guys have to admit that Hitler did lowkey hate the Slavs.

> inb4 he called them a great people
he meant to compare the small Jewish class to the numerically huge Russian peoples. The word "groß" can mean huge or great, and it seems like in this context he meant "huge" because he contraposes it to a "small" group of Jews.

Also the addition to the Nuremberg Laws in 1942 (which classified Slavs as not tribally related to the Aryans) as well at Hitler's table talks "As for the ridiculous hundred million Slavs, we will mould the best of them as we see fit, and we will isolate the rest of them in their own pig-styes; and anyone who talks about cherishing the local inhabitants and civilising them, goes straight off into a concentration camp!" suggest Hitler wasn't a big fan of my race.

How do I resolve this cognitive dissonance?
> inb4 read more /nsg/

yes, but why did he write what he wrote above then?
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>>130061382
look he was germany first and that is the point of national socialism just like a russian natsoc would be russia first
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>>130061382
>natsoc
he wanted to germanize Croats and some other

It is not possible to generalise on the extent to which the Slav races are susceptible to the Germanic imprint. In point of fact, Tsarist Russia, within the framework of her pan-Slav policy, propagated the qualification Slav and imposed it on a large diversity of people, who had no connection with the Slavonic race. For example, to label the Bulgarians as Slavs is pure nonsense; originally they were Turkomans. The same applies to the Czechs. It is enough for a Czech to grow a moustache for anyone to see, from the way the thing droops, that his origin is Mongolian. Among the so-called Slavs of the South the Dinars are predominant. Turning to the Croats, I must say I think it is highly desirable, from the ethnical point of view, that they should be Germanised. There are, however, political reasons which completely preclude any such measures. There is one cardinal principle. This question of the Germanisation of certain peoples must not be examined in the light of abstract ideas and theory. We must examine each particular case. The only problem is to make sure whether the offspring of any race will mingle well with the German population and will improve it, or whether, on the contrary (as is the case when Jew blood is mixed with German blood), negative results will arise. - page 473


The Hungarians are better governed than the Rumanians. What a pity they can't instal Croats instead of Rumanians! The Hungarians are wildly nationalist. They assimilate the Germans at extraordinary speed, and they know how to select the best of them for posts of command. We shan't succeed in preserving the German minorities in Hungary except by taking over control of the State—or else we shall have to withdraw our minorities from Hungary. - page 338
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Hitler must've seen Slavs as weak subhumans because they were taken over by the Jews and their communism. Then, by Hitler's logic, we non-Slavic whites are also subhumans.
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>>130061382
So, because Hitler said some mean things about your people, you going to disregard the main ideas of National Socialism? Stay divided Ivan.
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>>130061382
A slavic nazi is a cuck, it's like being a black confederate.
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>>130062050
It's almost as if Mein Kampf and much of Hitler's logic and rhetoric was pseudo intellectual contradictory garbage?

Mussolini > Hitler
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LOW KEY?!?!?!?!

He downright wanted to exterminate them. And for good reason they are swindlers and tgugs and have round pasty faces with derpy eyes
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>>130061382

he wanted to resettle us to further the east and make lebensraum for germans. now that was the nice option, there were people in the NSDAP that wanted exterminate us all together. now that was his idea, from a germanic etho nationalistic standpoint, it made sense. we can still use nat soc ideas to fuel the greatest of OUR race and ultimately, depending on the successm, who knows maybe make some lebensraum in the west.
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>>130061382
Of course he hated slavs, take a look at poland here. You have to admit, if you are retarded you are retarded and deserve to hated for being a walking half asleep zombie
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>>130062303
>Mussolini
>a former socialistic cuckold

stop it right there.
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>>130061382
Hitler’s mature attitude towards the Slavs, however, especially after 1938 or 1939, evolved and became nuanced. He recognized, for example, that there were large segments of the Czech and Slovenian Slavic peoples that were racially valuable, and he eagerly anticipated incorporating them into his postwar Greater Germanic Reich. In other words, he felt that not all Slavs were created equal.
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>>130061382
What emerges from such an examination is that Hitler treated the various Slavic nations depending on their attitude towards Germany; those that were friendly towards Germany, he treated as friends; those who were hostile to Germany, he treated as enemies. Is there anyone, anywhere who finds this policy unreasonable?

Poland: In 1936, National Socialist Germany and the Japanese Empire signed the Anti-Comintern Pact, in which they pledged to support each other against communist aggression by the Soviet Union. Other nations were invited to join, including Poland. Some Eastern European countries with large Slavic populations did come aboard, including Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Slovakia and Hungary — but Poland declined. Hitler later made repeated entreaties to the Poles to join him in a common front against the USSR, but to no avail. Poland, goaded on by the Jews, the British, and the French, instead chose to adopt an anti-German stance. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind!

Slovakia: After the break-up of the artificial state of Czechoslovakia, Hitler granted the Slovaks complete national independence, for the first time in their history. The Slovak Republic (Slovenska republika) under Jozef Tiso lasted from 1939-1945.

The Protectorate of Bohemia-Moravia: The Czech-populated territory of the former Czechoslovakia was re-organized as this Reich’s Protectorate. In it, the Czech people essentially sat out the Second World War, unmolested. The menfolk were not required to fight in the War, their economy prospered and the Czech capital, Prague, was spared the ravages of war.

Croatia: Fascist Italy and National Socialist Germany granted the Croatians national independence, like the Slovaks. The independent State of Croatia (Nezavisna Drvara Hrvatska or NDH) existed from 1941-1945.
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>>130062679
could it have been that he used "racial politics" are purely political means of gaining favor? Like it started off well-intentioned (against Jews and preserving whites) but then as the War started and the communist leadership cucked out to the Jews it became a political tool?
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>>130062814
I think that it is inconsistent. Once people change their mind it automagically means that their "bloodlines" became pure again?
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>>130061382
>I'm a Russian. And I want to be natsoc
You proved to be a retard right here.
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>>130063202
sauce?
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>>130063202
National socialism is not equal to being a german national socialist.
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>>130062679
didnt germans along with italains tried to exterminate slovenes
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>>130063443
I agree, but to common people national socialism mean one thing only. And there's plenty of other ideologies that a slavic nationalist can follow without the need to submit to people who wanted to genocide his ancestors.
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>>130062884
>could it have been that he used "racial politics" are purely political means of gaining favor? Like it started off well-intentioned (against Jews and preserving whites) but then as the War started and the communist leadership cucked out to the Jews it became a political tool?


he did change his views from the early days to the war times, basically he didn't hate the slavs so much he liked those that sided with him more he hated some mostly Russians because of communism
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>>130063908
>common people national socialism mean one thing only

no need for these mental shortcuts on a annonymous dicussion forum. of course saying irl "im a national socialist" is a different thing and then you might be as you describe, "misunderstood".
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>>130064179
what about ostarbeiters (probably butchered the spelling)?
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>all the false flagging ITT
The choosable flags were a mistake
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Makes me wonder what Hitler's views would have been on the Irish, Scots, Welsh and other Celtic peoples

I know the Nazis collaborated with the IRA to a small extent but I'm thinking more on racial terms not political, he doesn't seem to mention anything regarding them
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>>130064594
>ostarbeiters
they had laws against mixing with them but they werent effective the thing is you could go thru Hitlers words and he was inconsistent about slaves at one point he hates them all at the other he says some are better and shouldnt be treated badly

germans even took slavish kids that were blonde because there wasnt enough germans for their blond standard

so you see the inner racial guestion was more of a propaganda that he used to create the idea of germany uber alles but he just wanted to rule europe and defeat the jews and bolsheviks
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>>130061382
>>Hitler did lowkey hate the Slavs
There's a reason for that
>Susceptibility to Jewish tricks
>Many were willing participants/supporters of (((communism)))

Seriously, how hard was it to just turn around and genocide the (((Bolsheviks))) and go 14/88 with Hitler?
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>>130064179
>he didn't hate the slavs so much he liked those that sided with him more he hated some mostly Russians because of communism
The slavs that sided with him were given special treatment in the nazi propaganda. For exaple croats were supposed to be of gothic origin, and bulgarians were supposed to be turks. Nazis were bending backwards trying to deal with this doublethink and rationalize the use of slavic meatshields.
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>>130061382
National socialism is not about the hate for others but the love for your own. Keep that in mind and you will embrace it
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>>130065170
pretty hard considering if you didn't keep your mouth shot you were in a grave by 1939.
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>>130065170
In 1939 only one slavic nation was communist, that is the russians. And Hitler didn't have any problem with working with bolshevik russians to destroy for example right wing and rather fascist Poland.
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>>130065403
so one can be a natsoc and hate hitler for genociding his race?

> e.g. Jewish natsoc
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>>130065003
>I know the Nazis collaborated with the IRA to a small extent but I'm thinking more on racial terms not political, he doesn't seem to mention anything regarding them


Nazis thought Celtic people were also fellow Aryans

during WWII, a French Celt - Olier Mordrel collaborated closely with the Nazis that supported his Breton Independence Party.
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>>130065003
he spoke admiringly of the Scots as being the only peoples, other than the ancient Germans, who stopped the Romans in their tracks ... remember Hadrian's wall? Well, that was put up, because the Scots could not be pacified nor beaten, and Hitler noted how greatly the British in his time relied on the Scots for putting backbone into their armies. It seems he had great respect for them.
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>>130065630
thats because poland didnt accept them


n 1936, National Socialist Germany and the Japanese Empire signed the Anti-Comintern Pact, in which they pledged to support each other against communist aggression by the Soviet Union. Other nations were invited to join, including Poland. Some Eastern European countries with large Slavic populations did come aboard, including Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Slovakia and Hungary — but Poland declined. Hitler later made repeated entreaties to the Poles to join him in a common front against the USSR, but to no avail. Poland, goaded on by the Jews, the British, and the French, instead chose to adopt an anti-German stance.

and the brits and france dumped poland after
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>>130066215
So we can all agree that the epic struggle against communism was just bullshit right? Nazis wanted power and everybody who did not meet their demands was considered the enemy.
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>>130065634
Haavara Agreement - an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist German Jews signed on 25 August 1933. The agreement was finalized after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany, the Anglo-Palestine Bank (under the directive of the Jewish Agency) and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany. It was a major factor in making possible the migration of approximately 60,000 German Jews to Palestine in 1933–1939.

The Haavara Agreement was thought among some Nazi circles to be a possible way to rid the country of its supposed "Jewish problem." The head of the Middle Eastern division of the foreign ministry, the anti-Nazi Werner Otto von Hentig, supported the policy of concentrating Jews in Palestine. Hentig believed that if the Jewish population was concentrated in a single foreign entity, then foreign diplomatic policy and containment of the Jews would become easier.[21] Hitler's own support of the Haavara Agreement was unclear and varied throughout the 1930s. Initially, Hitler criticized the agreement, but reversed his opinion and supported it in the period 1937-1939.[22]

After the German invasion of Poland in September 1939, the "basis of its existence [was] removed", and the program was ended.[18]

The agreement was controversial both within the Nazi party and in the Zionist movement. As historian Edwin Black put it, "The Transfer Agreement tore the Jewish world apart, turning leader against leader, threatening rebellion and even assassination."[23] Opposition came in particular from the mainstream US leadership of the World Zionist Congress, in particular Abba Hillel Silver and American Jewish Congress president Rabbi Stephen Wise.[24] Wise and other leaders of the Anti-Nazi boycott of 1933 argued against the agreement, narrowly failing to persuade the Eighteenth Zionist Congress in August 1935 to vote against it.[25]
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>>130065634

The right-wing Revisionist Zionists and their leader Vladimir Jabotinsky were even more vocal in their opposition.[26] The Revisionist newspaper in Palestine, Hazit Haam published a sharp denunciation of those involved in the agreement as "betrayers", and shortly afterwards one of the negotiators, Haim Arlosoroff was assassinated.
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>>130066671
nope he hated bolsheviks because they to him represented a revolt against the old traditions that would burn it all, yes there was a power question but its everywhere.

he truly thought about Russia as the great enemy since he linked them to jews
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>>130066684
>>130066716
My question was more about something else. Is it possible for 2 nations with the same natsoc ideology to fight against each other without creating cognitive dissonance? Because one usually allies with the people they agree with. So does natsoc actually prevent this because you should put your own people above everybody else?
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>>130067010
so what would you think happen to me if I showed up to his house and said "I'm Russian and I'm natsoc!"? Would I be gassed on the spot cause I'm slav or sent to a hard labor camp or what?
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>>130067062
It depends yes it can lead to war between them but its mostly to cultural links example like portugal and spain would probably be closer then the French to them

Poland wouldnt go to war with fellow V4 countries just like Germany and Austria sided together in ww2

no country can have the same natsoc ideology since it is about your nation but they can be friendly towards each other
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>>130067010
And yet he had no problem working with them. He hated bolsheviks yet divided central Europe together with them. Because he didn't give a shit about "old traditions: or whatever, he just wanted more land in the east, even if it meant allying with bolsheviks against the only people who stopped them before from rampaging all over Europe.
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>>130067194
Of course not a commie russian would, nat-soc is closer to me then random ideology guy from that country.

and besides nat soc isnt about hate of another natsoc nation but loving your own
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>>130067476
>true but it was mostly about convenience since he was on a bad side with poland with them being with France and Britain that fucked them over in WW1

later it has been shown he did want to get rid of them as well

he even like england but the jew influence was too much for him
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>>130061382
i hate slavs too but not as much as niggers and kikes and indians and muslims
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>>130061382
>Russian
>Natsoc
choose one
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>>130067414
What bothers me is that there is no "but respect other nations" clause. If it was like "care for yourself, but let others be" I would be totally on board. But otherwise, it's only gonna further a policy of violence against people who just wanna fucking live.
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>>130067876
lol why you should hate your own country even more

you created degenerate youth the sjw movement with hippies as the base for it all

you created civic nationalism

while most of slavs suffered under communism
but still kept their culture and traditions

you are the ones that are removing confederate statues ashamed of yourselves...
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>>130067981
> tfw anecdotal evidence.
> also tfw using a neo-nazi skinhead degenerate as an example of "natsoc"
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>>130067981
you do know that was propaganda for the upcoming war times ?

Russians can be natsoc its just its highly unlikely since they are influenced by communism too much bagage
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>>130068117
until ww2 communists were like modern sjws. But necessity made them go tribalistic and bring back many of the old traditions. Without bringing them back, they would lose the war, and we all would live in the Third Reich.
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>>130067414
Poles attacked Czechoslovakia twice. In 1919 and 1939.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Czechoslovak_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_occupation_of_Czechoslovakia

> Some parts (e.g., Zaolzie, Southern Slovakia) were annexed by Poland and Hungary in the fall of 1938. The Zaolzie region was directly joined to the Third Reich after the German invasion of Poland in September 1939.
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>>130068117

>Implying we did it
>not the ((((()))))
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>>130068378
we would all live in third reich if Hitler wated a year or two and not attack Russia in winter
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Jozef Tiso was a Slovak Catholic priest and was a National Socialist sympathizing politician. He was also a friend of Hitler. In this link, you can find a picture of him shaking hands with Hitler:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jozef_Tiso

Hitler granted independence to the Slovak Republic under Jozef Tiso. He did the same thing with Croatia, another Slavic country. Why would he do that if he had goals to exterminate Slavs?

There were also Slavs fighting for Hitler from Ukraine. They were called the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Galician)
Pic related is a celebration in Ukraine for this division.

See this video for footage of Slavs fighting for Germany:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GG9U1A-3rSI&t=0h0m0s

I've read the Stalag translation of Mein Kampf, and Hitler definitely had a hatred for Slavs in it. I think it was mainly due to their acceptance of communism and submission to the Jews. Slavs willing to help him were accepted by Nationals Socialists.
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>>130068516
kek in his table talks and the like, he said he didn't want a war.

And there is evidence for that. For example, in the secretly recorded conversation between Hitler and Mannerheim, Hitler admits that his armies were unprepared to fight Russia.
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>>130061382
The thing is if you really are Russian you would see that most of you DO belong in pigsties. You have to believe that you're one of the special ones.
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>>130061382
Well, to be honest, vast number of us Slavs are degenerates and idiots...Let's not kid ourselves, we have smart people of course, but in Hitler's time, on average Germanic and Nordic people were better than us. That's why he had mixed feelings about us and said he will take the best of Slavic people and leave the rest in their pig dens or whatever. Also, his major reason for disliking Slavs was the Slavicization of Austria. There were too many Slavs migrating there and influencing the country for his liking. Just like we hate niggers now for the same reason, so I don't blame him. 100 years ago, Jews pushed Slav migrations, now they push Nigger and Muslim migrations.
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>>130068631
Are the Table Talks valid though? They don't seem like a good source to use, even though I agree with a lot of their contents.
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>>130068459
they even warned you so its like you did it to yourselves

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/freedman.htm
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>>130068631
>nt a war.
still he should have waited it out but got carried away
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>>130068755
We weren't degenerates or idiots.

Russians were, because communists sent people with actual intelect into gulags.
West slavs weren't bad on it economically or anything.

Hitler even like one Pole a lot. Józef Piłsudski.
He was at his funeral.
>https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrzeb_J%C3%B3zefa_Pi%C5%82sudskiego
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>>130068516
Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union was preemptive:
https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/stalwarplans.html
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>>130068784
"Although the table talk monologues are generally considered authentic, contentious issues remain over aspects of the published works." from wikipedia. I think that they are valid, at least we should pretend to convert normies because they dispell many of their myths.
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>>130068248
So neo nazi skinheads are not nazis? then what are they exactly?
this is awfully familiar with the "it wasn't real communism" narrative
> tfw anecdotal evidence
I'm not a nazi and i never claimed to be
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>>130061382
If you can't separate the policies and economics of Nazism from Hitler I understand but that's on u famalam
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>>130068722
Mehmet, pls.
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>>130069099
the only thing I know is he needed the gas and oil reserves also the USA involment complicated things and the Japs werent of much help with it
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>>130069119
Are there different translations of them like Mein Kampf has multiple translations? If so, which translation is the best?
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>>130069124
neo-nazi skinheads are trying to be edgy and anti-social. They don't adhere and they don't try to adhere to the standards of natsoc, the standards of morality and social good. That's why they are not natsoc, but a subculture that appropriated the images and twisted the image completely.
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>>130069124
dude they are not real nazis they are abominations just likesjw are an abomination of an already abomination called communism
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>>130069236
The Ford translation is the most unbiased based on multiple sources. The guy who redpilled me told me to read the Ford one, and I compared it to some others and Ford is truly the best.
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>>130062679
slavs arent created equal, thisn is true
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>>130061382
And OP please stop with this natsoc thing.
It's not for us. Especially not for you.

We were on other side. Keep it there.
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>>130069236
some say Stalag Edition Officially Authorized By The NSDA
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>>130069099
it was defensive because he knew that the best time to invade was right after stalin's purges, and that he would not win otherwise. Ffs if his war was a justified defensive war, why did he go around killing everyone?
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>>130069557
so what do you suggest then?
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>>130068875
this. Freedman told all.
Most Americans never heard it though, they follow (((mainstream media)))
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>>130069681
*preemptive
not defensive
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>>130069681
he would have had a nuke by that time
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>>130069681
>why did he go around killing everyone?

Please elaborate. Are you talking about Jews? Poles? French? Slavs?
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I'm not gonna lie. If not for the Germans America would have never been a great country, or at least, not as great to the degree it has attained. German stock are a blessing to every nation that has had them. However, they are fucking autistic with regards to following directions and obeying their leaders. Hence, their immensely positive traits have some drawbacks. One only has to look at the cuckoldry that has taken over that race under Merkel. I guess it was a good idea after all, after WWII by the AMerican Intelligence Services, to rid the world of that most peculiar race. They are akin to weapons of mass destruction. In the wrong hands and they'll end all life as we know it. Now the SPanish, of Visigothic lineage, now that is a truly master race.
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>>130069734
true and sad

https://youtu.be/Y44lS_sOtaY
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>>130069695
That is up to you.
But I don't really like seeing someone sympathizing with regime which killed over 20 millions of your people.
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>>130069774
who? Hitler, if that's true then why didn't he simply wait and use said nuke. They didn't even have a nuke by the end of the war.
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>>130061382
Look at it this way
A shitload of slavs died in a camp either way
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>>130061382
Pff, who cares about that? I'm a fascist myself despite disagreeing with Shitler on a lot of things. I would still recommend Mein Kampf as an introductory book for someone who wants to learn about it.
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>>130063202
Mighty words for pussies who got raped at Stalingrad and Berlin, lol.
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>>130069925
No offense, but that's mainly because your leaders hurled their troops at the Germans and focused on overwhelming them after your side won at Stalingrad. Those kinds of tactics tend to lead to more casualties on your side.
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>>130069925

KEK dude
> my great grandfather fought all 4 years of the war
> he earned 3 medals for the soviet union
> was sent to a gulag for 5 years in 1948 while having sustained 2 heavy injuries

thanks Russia
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>>130069869
war crimes against any slavic people. generalplan ost as well. hitler's detest of the slavic peoples is pretty well documented
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>>130061382
>we will mould the best of them as we see fit, and we will isolate the rest of them in their own pig-styes; and anyone who talks about cherishing the local inhabitants and civilising them, goes straight off into a concentration camp!" suggest Hitler wasn't a big fan of my race.
kek m8, society and civilization already does this on it's own. successful and talented people do well - and morons, bums, and addicts live poorly by their own choice or stupidity. hitler himself seems to suggest here that there are slavs that would be welcomed as long as they could culturally assimilate (we will mould the best of them as we see fit).
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>>130061908
whats Mongolian about Czechs?
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>>130070228
there were hundreds of thousands of civilians who died, if not millions.
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Is it not enough for you to have pride in your race, its art, culture, religion, music, scientific and mathematical achievements?
Is it not enough for you to have pride in your great authors, composers and mathematicians?
Is it not enough that you establish your own traditional Russian society?

Forget what Hitler said about Slavs. Focus on what he did for his people, according to global principles and their unique character, and do the analogous thing for your own people according to their own character.
That will be NatSoc enough for you.
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>>130061382
You don't really have to care about what Hitler said to be a natsoc. It's not like a cult or religion, he's just a political leader. It's the ideology that interests you, not the history of a man or some kind of weird nazi uniform fetish.
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>>130069893
>German stock are a blessing to every nation that has had them.
Not really, in Romania they were merchants and made common front with the jews.
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>>130070268
Hitler hated them when he wrote Mein Kampf, read my previous posts about his respect for Slavs. There's some info about Generalplan ost on the CODOH site
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>>130070329
>whats Mongolian about Czechs?
the moustache ;)
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>>130070368
this is the best interpretation of NatSoc itself. but there is a difference between idealizing NatSoc, which is an ideology, and hitler, who is a man, and responsible for many crimes against other white nations.
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>>130061382
If you wanna be a NatSoc and you're Russian then why would you wanna follow Hitler/the Germans instead of being a Russian National Socialist.
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>>130070578
I dont get it... :/
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>>130070368
kek I buy that Russians were a great people before being cucked by (((le merchant class))).

I also live in the US so yeah.
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>>130069952
there was no need to attack russia then even Stalin thought Hitler was good and was surprised by the attack even though he was warned

IMO Hitler could take USA and UK
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>>130070342
There were tons of civilian casualties for Germans as well, not to mention other places during WWII as well. You also have to take into account the fact that there were likely hundreds of thousands of communist sympathizers in German occupied territories that engaged in partisan activity
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>>130070804
>>130070342
It's called war senpai. Civilians die in wars.
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>>130070228
Muge part of casualties were civilians.
>>130070230
(((Communism))) is not any better. We had it here aswell and many war heroes ended without jobs and in prisons. And now because of it we are slaves of germans again.

For a russkie, both natsoc and (((communism))) are bad.
You russians got fucked hard. Horrible monarchy, communists killing most of intelectuals, germans killing rest. We had communism for 40 years, you had it for way longer time.
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>>130070784
I'll say it again. Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union was preemptive:
https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/stalwarplans.html
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Dehumanizing your enemy is part of war and Hitler's end game all along was Total War.
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>>130070918
I would say Russian Monarchy was the best we've ever had. When the monarch was not cucked, the country was essentially natsoc.
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>>130070896
That's what I was trying to say. Once bombing raids became a thing civilian casualties are pretty much guaranteed. Rape and intentional murder is unjustified, but those still happen on all sides of just about any war
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>>130061382
Hitler was retarded

You're probably retarded as well
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>>130070922
>I'll say it again. Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union was preemptive:

AND THERE WAS NO NEED FOR SUCH A MOVE

even when they were in war Russia had to rely on USA for tanks and equipment
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>>130061382

You are a fat Amerikan Jew.
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>>130062170
Are magapedes the new leafs? You be the judge.
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>>130071108
>Hitler was retarded
Yeah sure go away Tito lover
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>>130071080
Early and mid monarchy was really good. But then it all went to shit.
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>>130071108
> tfw Ustase missed a person
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>>130071115
And they still won because they had an overwhelming force and Hitler made some tactical errors once they were deep into Russia. But the initial invasion was still justified. Attack your enemy before they attack you. That's common sense
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>>130071154
Way worse, most of the leafs were joking when they shitposted.
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>>130071270
>Yeah sure go away Tito lover
If he had crushed Britain befor he would have a chance but he though he can fight on both fronts and that was a mistake srly its ww1 all over again
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>>130071211
I'd say it all went to shit after Catherine the Great. She let the french egalitarian ideas in. Paul 1st tried to repair the damages, but was killed by (((them))) instead. After that the corrupt nobility, in debt to (((le merchant))) slowly degraded russian society, leading to the eventual collapse.
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Funny thing is that a person here called a fascist isn't even natsoc, just socialist. He and his party members many times praised Slovak State and Tiso.

But i'll vote for him.
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>>130071115

Because they were all captured in rout due to being postured offensive formations.
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>>130062303
That's a valid assessment of Nazi ideology.

Yet the pan Slavic ideology fits into a socialist nationalism that replaces the Fatherland ideal with the Mother Russia ideal.

So there are Russian nationalists who claim pan Slavic ideology is superior to the failed Nazi ideology. However, that contrasts to the color blindness of social democracy.

However, this is only my opinion and I ask of the Slavs, be merciful in correcting me.
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>>130071442
I didn't call you a Tito lover wtf
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>>130071489

Tito was a fraud.
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>>130071535
sorry wrong refrence I thought i posted to the croat partisan shit
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>>130071523
I think we Slavs should form a pan-slavic country under the leadership of Russia (due to being the strongest atm). We should also help Germany reclaim their history and ideals. Germany and Russia historically worked close together when (((they))) did not provoke wars between them.
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>>130063202
>the Slavs are a mass of subhuman slaves, who feel the need for a master.
>Germans had Hitler.
>Call Merkel mommy.
>Maybe he was just wrong and Germans are subhumans too.
You know what they say about blondes after all.
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>>130071108
fuckin tito lover

ZDS

We are going to rename the square soon ;)
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>>130071744
>should
but we must get rid of USA nad Merkel and Juncker
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>tfw i think natsoc is great but hitler was a retard
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>>130071869
USA should be reformed to a country a-la HRE.
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>>130071744
I stand for V6
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>>130071618
>fraud
No, he wanted to keep fascist regime as long as possible. If he would betray Nazi Germany he wouldn't call Germans to occupy Slovakia.

Tiso was reason why Slovak National Uprising failed.
Even when Tiso was not part the most natsoc part of HSĽS (leading party). He was part of moderate wing, while Tuka was the most natsoc one.
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>>130071768
Its just them destroying germany, propaganda works wonder alkso east germany was cucked by commies
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>>130071956

1PBTI
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Racists fuck off
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>>130070329

their bucketheads, the lack of certain emotions and when you look into their eyes you can see genghis khan emitting a thousand years old smile. There is only one thing I hate more than Czechs and that is polish and hungarians, I swear the EU was a jew ploy solely to repay them for their endless teamwork to subvert the white man.
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Pan-slavism was mostly in west slav and south slavs nations.

There weren't any "bigger" russian pan-slavists. Most of them are Croatian, Czech and Slovak.

I'd rather have V6 with Croatia and Slovenia in club.
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>>130072047
it's funny, but I've heard from Germans that half of east germans are full on 14/88.
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>>130072171
kek stay mad (((white man)))
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>>130061382
Just read mein Kampf and the Nazi propaganda posters. They hated Slavs and thought they were subhumans. The Nazis wanted to wipe out the Slavs up to the Ural mountains for lebensraum for future Aryan generations. All the naziboo fags in this thread will point to things like Slavs in the SS but they only came late into the war when the Germans were desperate for soldiers as the SS was basically gutted after the first winter and push back from Moscow.
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>>130072322
I agree.
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>>130072248
yeah and natsoc isnt hating others but putting your people and ethnostate first

Hitler would never allow nonwhite migration like we have today
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>>130061382
I'm pretty sure the coming wave of NatSoc won't care. They'll as much whites as possible.
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>>130072443
so what would they do if I showed up to Hitler's house and said "I want to live in Germany, but I'm slavic, but I'm also natsoc"?
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>>130072391
Boomers and gen x'ers didn't grow up with the collective guilt crap.
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>>130072391
well thast what happens under communism but still they gave them Merkel
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>>130072046

He was the bastard son of a wealthy Vienna Jew...who appropriated another (decent and simple) man's identity. When he was dying in excruciating pain as the gangrene ate him alive he would babble endlessly away in Wienerisch.
The deep state of Amerika knew this as the fact it was and dossier'd his awkward rudimentary attempts to speak in the tongues of those he lorded over.
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>>130072171

The Czechs lined up anyone with German blood and drove trucks back and forth over them
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>>130072443
he hated some but he liked the ones that sided with him so it was mostly you either with me or against me
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nazis weren't as hardcore as you think, they were more focused on 1. propaganda against degeneracy and 2. positively reinforcing good racial policies (by giving rewards to people who were particularly nordid in the form of money, if they had a certain amount of children they would be rewarded money + prestige etc.)

slavs were generally seen as inferior because they are predominantly reduced cromagnoids derived from hunter gatherers but infantilized to an extent where opposed to the nordid human they lose in every way possible except maybe energy saving (aka surviving cold winters)

if you are interested in this topic read the books from Hans F.K. Günther, he was obsessed with the nordid race and also the leading physical anthropologist as well as the highest nazi anthropologer of the time , and you'll understand very quickly why blonde is not equal to aryan for the nazis in many cases
pic related is a woman who won a racial contest for being an ideal example of the nordid woman
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>>130072676
Aren't you mistaking Tiso with Tito?
Tiso's father was peasant from slovak village.
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>>130072867
Based as fuck.But if that is the case why are some of them LARPING as Germans?
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>>130073449
yeah he mixed them up
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Hitlerian racism is a joke.

Why? Because the actually greater race is the Mediterranean race.

Proof: both Salazar and Franco had long and prosperous administrations. Mussolini had a long and prosperous administration before Hitler too.

Hitler was the only fascist to fall. All of the others managed to stay up, except for Mussolini, precisely because he united himself with Hitler.

Curiosity: Salazar did so well that, some ten or fifteen years ago a Portuguese television channel made a poll for the people to choose the greatest Portuguese person of all time. They could have chosen Vasco da Gama, Fernando Pessoa, Luiz de Camoes... But they chose Salazar.
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>>130073577
fascism and national socialism arent the same thing
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>>130061382
sharing the natsoc ideology and sharing hitler's opinion on literally everything are two things

the liking or disliking of slavs have nothing to do with core natsoc ideology
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>>130073342
i've seen pre-op trannies who look more feminine than that woMAN
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>>130073554
maybe cause Czechs are essentially germans mixed with slavs but still more german?
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>>130072867
Best thing in history of Czechoslovakia.
You Germans didn't deserve a good life after war. We treated you well, as part of nation wich wasnt inferior to us. You betrayed us, we kicked you out.

And some of you.. died in "accidents".
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>>130073342

relate this woman to a more reduced cromagnoid metrical gorid , which is the typical slavic racial type and you'll see immediately the differences:

they are both white, but they have extremely different amounts of neoteny (childlike features, nordid one has a perfectly aquiline slightly convex nose , fully leptorrhine and high rotoed, compressed zygomes, mesocephal skull) , she looks more socially dominant as opposed to childlike , she was selected much greedier than the gorid woman


pic related a good looking gorid woman
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>>130073696
Nationalism is a type of fascism.
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>>130074074
National Socialism*
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>>130061382

I'm a historian here in germany and the "anti-slav" stance of us during WW2 is widely overblown and full of lies.
I could show you a transcript of Hitler talking at the Berghof with some other important people about the topic, it's german though and several pages long.
Hitler basically differed between
>Actual Slav
>Subhumans who moved to slav lands and call themself slav
>pic related: Russian volunteers of the Wehrmacht
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>>130073911
this
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>>130073342
>>130074023
Nice psuedoscience.
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>>130074120
please do i'm interested.
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>>130062050
>Hitler must've seen Slavs as weak subhumans because they were taken over by the Jews and their communism
How do I know you're American?
Before the end of WW2 only one Slavic country was communist, and most Russians aren't even Slavs.
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>>130073739

well she won a prize from the fucking nazis for being an idealtypical representative of the nordid race

here is her side view and you'll see immediately that she was so greedily selected, she is almost perfect in every way except maybe her eye regions


you could put her in a knight armour and she would be able to lead a whole army , while an infantilized gorid will have a hard time convincing others to follow him/her
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>>130074120
Some slavs looked more aryan than Germans.
Pic related, Slovakian pilot aces.
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>>130065332
In summary then, a person may have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to make Nazi ideology fit into the current political landscape of social democracy.

In place of genocide, substitute a fascism that uses racist and sexist means to the betterment of a beleagered race.
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>>130074117
>volunteers
The Fascist conception of the state is all-embracing: outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have any real worth. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian, and the Fascist state — a synthesis and a unit of all values — interprets, develops and potentiates the whole life of a people…It is not the nation that generates the state…Rather it is the state which creates the nation, conferring volition and, therefore, real life on a people…In the Fascist conception, the state is an absolute before which individuals and groups are relative…”

The Fascist conception of the state is all-embracing: outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have any real worth. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian, and the Fascist state — a synthesis and a unit of all values — interprets, develops and potentiates the whole life of a people…It is not the nation that generates the state…Rather it is the state which creates the nation, conferring volition and, therefore, real life on a people…In the Fascist conception, the state is an absolute before which individuals and groups are relative…”
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>>130074074
To the National Socialist, on the other hand, it is our Race, not the state, which is all-important. In Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler wrote:

“The state is a means to an end. Its end lies in the preservation and advancement of a community of physically and spiritually similar creatures… States which do not serve this purpose are misbegotten monstrosities in fact.” (II:2)
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>>130074302
>you could put her in a knight armour and she would be able to lead a whole army

That's because she literally looks like a man. Why you purport this to be a high-value quality I will never understand. If you are a closeted homosexual and seek a partner to alleviate your desires in a socially-acceptable way, she is ideal.
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>>130061382
you're retarded. Hitler hated the Jews because he viewed them as a serious superior threat but he hated Slavs because he regarded them as dumb cattle occupying valuable land.
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>>130061382
Hitler hated slavs in the same way that we hate Swedes. Because they were degenerate communists, not because they were slavs. The entire non-communist slavic world was allied with Hitler and were inducted into the racial elite SS, including well over a million Russians and an entire division of Ukrainian SS. Hitler hating slavs is an anti-white meme.

>the Nuremberg Laws in 1942
Meant that slavs were not classed as German. Are you denying that slavs are not German?

>table talks
This is not Hitler's direct speech or writing. It was heavily edited by Borman and numerous passages are now known to have been forged by translators. It's not reliable.

>why did he write what he wrote above then?
Again, he didn't write the table talks. He didn't even read them, let alone sanction them as they are now.
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>>130074599
not all slavs just does that didnt side with him
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>>130061382
>I'm a Russian. And I want to be natsoc. I agree with a lot of their ideas. However, you guys have to admit that Hitler did lowkey hate the Slavs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Fascist_Party

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Rodzaevsky

Welcome aboard.
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>>130061382
>>130074120

A polish Waffen-SS volunteer
Don't show to any poles, they seem to love their role of being victims that were seen as subhumans by us Germans
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>>130074661
what about ostarbeiters?
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>>130074329
Some?
It's because there's no such thing as Aryan.
Some Slavs are blond,some Germans are not blond.
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>>130074754
did he hate russians yes- did he hate all slavs no

did he like some slavs better then others yes

the world isnt black and white
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>>130074329

nope , all slavic racial types (gorid, baltid , dinarid etc.) are racially completely inferior to northern europeans in every way

there is nothing which nordids lack that other races on this planet have


the nordid human is the most beautiful, graceful and ingenious to bless this planet

>>130074574

she doesn't look like a man, she has socially dominant features. she is also wearing 0 make up


you are just spoilt by modern media with infantilized underage cheap underdeveloped slavic garbage


here is another nordid woman, although this one is not fully unreduced (and has slight cromagnoid influences) as the former , you wouldn't refuse this one in your bed, and she is still better than 100% of everything slavs have to offer (racially)
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>>130074754
Ok i'm not a fan of people like Vlasov who *served* in the soviet army and defected. that's called treason.

But I have total respect for Russian people who volunteered willingly for the ROA and who actually fought for their beliefs.
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>>130074737
no, he was aware of the low IQ of the Slav races. literally the only thing of value you have are (some of)your women, as demonstrated by this thread. Aryan women do often look too severe
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>>130074942
please we all know your intent that is to divide and conqure, slavic people arent inferior if you want to talk about nordics the hell mediterans are better then you
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>>130074976
this is what he said about croats

If the Croats were part of the Reich, we'd have them serving as faithful auxiliaries of the German Fuehrer, to police our marshes. Whatever happens, one shouldn't treat them as Italy is doing at present. The Croats are a proud people. They should be bound directly to the Fuehrer by an oath of loyalty. Like that, one could rely upon them absolutely. When I have Kvaternik standing in front of me, I behold the very type of the Croat as I've always known him, unshakeable in his friendships, a man whose oath is eternally binding. The Croats are very keen on not being regarded as Slavs. According to them, they're descended from the Goths. The fact that they speak a Slav language is only an accident, they say. - page 95

nut of course for national socialist his people come first
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>>130074329

Exactly, also see this polish Waffen-SS volunteer:
>>130074768

I have no idea who started the
>Germans see all slavs, especially poles as subhuman meme
but it's utter BS

>pic related: Russian Luftwaffe Volunteers
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>>130066215
>1936
>Croatia
>country
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>>130074976

slavic women are largely a trap, keep in mind almost every woman looks good when she's young and wears make up

and slavic women look younger by default because having infantilized features is their characteristic trait (and is what defines their race)

>>130075091

there is nothing to divide, slavs need to stay in their own fucking countries wehre they can keep on breeding babyfaced faggots squatting 24/7 , while nordids need eugenics and make sure to breed quality over quantity liek they did 70 years ago


slavs are zergs, nordids are protoss
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>>130074976
Again, that is Soviet Union.

People in Russia with higher IQ were mostly killed by communists because they were danger for regime.
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>>130074599
Well, in his book he say's it's because they're both degenerate. Then he specifies by saying that the best "slavic" elements were those built by the Germanics.

In other words, Germanic groups like the Varangians and peoples of the Nordic migrations into the east are the reason for it's success. Examples would be the entire Russian nobility from beginning to end. He added the caveat that a slav is essentially a mixed thing. It combines eastern and western (and Jewish, if you're wondering) elements into one thing, and that thing is overall below average. This was at a time where the USSR was trying to close the 30 year infrastructure with the west and was the first loser in WW1-so his assessment is definitely one of his period, but I can't say it's wrong either.

I think today we associate Slavs as being more Germanic and western than they used to be- and it's petty true. The Jewish element is a fraction of what it used to be there as well, so Russia has ironed out the elements that Hitler would have disdained last century.

>TL;Dr Hitler would prefer Russia today than the Soviet Union of his time or the Russia previously, aside from being a Republic.
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>>130074942
She's beautiful, the first chick was 98% sure a man wearing drag to dodge the draft. Joke was on him because he won a beauty contest.
Your phrenology ideas are complete retardation and have no association with any physical reality. If you knew the first thing about biology and neuroscience you'd know how fucking dumb you sound. The zygomatic arches are not associated with alleles supporting more efficient or capable brains. You're an embarrassment. Spend more time reading actual neuroscience and less time jacking it to black and white 1930's trannies. Trust me it will help you.
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>>130075361
he even admired the beauty of their cities

in 1935 Germany changed the term "aryan" in official state documents and used "person with german or similar blood" instead, partly to suck in its finno-ugric speaking allies (Finland, Estonia, Hungary).
Hitler once said "its unforgiven, that Budapest with its Attila-breed Huns is the most beautiful city along the Danube, and not one Niebelung city"
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>>130075361
this is the type of person that posts "slavs are not white" threads.

I bet you're a jew m8.
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>>130061382
Yes, Hitler was not a white supremacist. He was a German Supremacist.
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>>130075374
checked
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>>130074926
>the world isnt black and white

It is black and white to us right now. Jews are instituting Multiculturalism to destroy all races and
our unique rich histories. Communism is there favored political party that they use to do this.
Capitalism offers no defense.

National Socialism keeps people distinct instead of mashing them together.
National Socialism Fights off Freemasons and other cults instead of spreading them.
National Socialism Stops Jewish Centralized Banks.
National Socialism Recognizes Jews are a threat.

The choice is rather simple. I don't care about being liked. I care about telling the truth. When many
more people stop being so shy around the swastika we will advance against Jewish interests.
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>>130075416
>>TL;Dr Hitler would prefer Russia today than the Soviet Union of his time or the Russia previously, aside from being a Republic.

well that is true he would probably see a great ally in Putin
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>>130061382
>Hitler did lowkey hate the Slavs
>lowkey

Hitler said full on that he hated the slavs. They weren't genocidal material, but slaves for the superior aryan race.

But he was also a retarded politician that changed his mind whenever it was to his advantage. But yeah, slavs would've been better with a nazi regime compared to the communists
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>>130075455

no, you are just wasted by modern media and overstimulation of simple sexual features (red lips, cutified rounded faces , rounded foreheads etc.)
so basically you are trained to go for the least socially dominant woman
phrenology = belief that certain areas of the brain/skull are responsible for certain characteristical traits/intelligence etc.
physical anthropology = evolution by sexual selection
you can't deny the reality of sexual selection for certain traits, unless you are retarded and blind
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>>130074942
>he nordid human is the most beautiful, graceful and ingenious to bless this planet
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>>130074236

>1/3
>page 6
>Hitler talks with General Keitel about russian volunteers and about how we shouldn't promise too much for these volunteers to avoid the same mistake as during WW 1
>He talks bad about Alfred Rosenberg who he calls an aristocratic baltic-german
>Makes clear that Russian volunteers are entitled to russian lands
>Also makes clear that russian volunteers from Estonia etc. should NOT be promised anything relating to Estonia, Latvia etc.
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>>130075730
I could see that. Putin's a traditionalist and we all value social cohesion

Also I meant to say "30 year infrastructure gap" if that looks weird
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>>130074236
>>130076020

>2/3
>page 7
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>>130061382
i had to work with slavs
no, just no
your one step above jews but it's not enough
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OMG seriously the only thing they have against us is inner conflicts thats why the your noth white enoigh is brought so often


just look who is behind bolshevism, nazi movies
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>>130075361
Tesla>any german scientist ever. Response?
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>>130074236
>>130076020
>>130076124

>3/3
>page 8
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>>130076020
>>Makes clear that Russian volunteers are entitled to russian lands


well its only logic of course you reward the loyal ones that side with you
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>>130076298
is there a translated version out there? I'm trying to learn German but this is a little too advanced for me.
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>>130075361
You're disgusting.
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>>130061382

Hitler was unaware that the Slavs were one branch of the Aryans he idolized. Genetic research on archeological remains shows that the Haplotype r1a, which is most common in slavic counties among other areas. The Aryans were the original speakers of the Proto-Indo-European language and domesticated the Horse, invented the wheel and spread from modern day Ukraine.

Genetic research on Hitler's relatives (who would have shared his haplotype), shows Hitler was type E, which was a branch of neolithic Mediterranean farmers most common in Ancient Egypt and Modern day Greece. So Genetically Hitler was not Aryan, nor even similar to most German people. His prejudice against the Slavs was his racial inability to recognize the Aryans because he was not one. Furthermore, he was confused by the fact that there were so many Jews in Poland, the Slavic country he had the most problem with. Secondly, even Russia around that era had a bunch of Jews running around pulling bullshit.

So long story short, the slavs are one branch of the Aryan race, of which Hitler was not part of, but Hitler did recognize the Jewish probelm but unfortunately confused slavs and jews. Probably because he saw a bunch of kikes LARPing as Slavs calling themselves such.
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>>130076484
a jew probably
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>>130076491
>Genetic research on archeological remains shows that the Haplotype r1a ARE THE ARYANS, which is most common in slavic counties among other areas.*

sorry, fixed.
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>>130075804

> EU flag

>>130075583

slavs are white, should you breed with them if you want quality over quantity , definitely not

>>130076212

Tesla couldn't even do basic math without german inventions lol even less feed his retarded pigeons because the only reason he had food was because of fertilizers (german invention)
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You guys are pretty much the spics of Europe/Eurasia.
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>>130076491
he would be proud of greek/med lineage after all he idolised HRE
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>>130061908
Our mustaches are a proof that we're mongloian?
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>>130075792
>you can't deny the reality of sexual selection for certain traits, unless you are retarded and blind

You've randomly chosen a few phenotypical obvious traits and assume, without reason, that they are reliable indicators of acumen and brain function. It's hilarious because the ONLY phenotypes you chose are the ones that are VISUALLY APPARENT because that's all you have to go on, literally photos. You have no actual brain studies, no fMRI, no testing of the efficiency and utility of volumes and densities of the brain regions. The reason you don't do this is because you're so uneducated and amateurish you don't even know that they exist or what they do. You have no conception of the study of neuroscience and the faults we have found within these regions which allow us to study which regions do what and how they work together. Do you know what the amigdala does? Hippocampus? Frontal cortex? No I'm sure it's the fucking septum cartilage, ear shape, and eyebrow thickness that matters...
You're basically the equivalent of someone looking at a rice rocket car and saying "well it has a spoiler, and race cars have spoilers, so it's probably fast". Instead of looking under the hood and examining engine displacement, compression ratio, forced aspiration, brake size, transmission capability, center of gravity, etc. You don't even know what those things do or how to analyze them. I'm laughing my ass off at your retarded child like analysis.
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>>130076664
ok jew just stop it the divison wont work this time
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>>130076664
fair enough
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>>130076212
I bet you believe he invented space lasers and free energy the government is still hiding.

Meanwhile the Germans invented synthetic fuels, blaugas, helicopters, every major innovation in aircraft design(NASA recently tried to pass of the work of Adolf Busemann as their own recent invention),rocket engines(no, the British did not build them or get them working), etc

Any single great German inventor is better than Tesla. Tesla didn't even invent AC by the way-he was just a proponent of it.
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>>130076674
he thougth so still today he would probably consider all EE Aryan
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>>130076691
sexual selection repeated over a long time leads to development of certain traits, that's all, it happens every where in every branch of life, with plants, with animals (by controlled breeding as well as isolation) etc.

stop shit talking to me with your unfounded retarded opinion you brainlet

the hominizations of humans is a fact, and you won't deny it by getting triggered you cucklet
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>>130076673
Makes sense from a biological perspective as that was the same type he was. But most Germans were not like him.
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>>130076664
lol retarded response, Tesla > any German ever. Germans didn't "invent" math, it exists independant of humanity. I.E 1+1=2 with or without humans, assuming 1 and 1 are both of the same sort and can be added. Fertilizers? Oh you mean like manure/compost? LOL great invention there Hans.
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>>130076829
dude still Tesla>German scientists
modern world woudnt be possible without him

not saying germany isnt to be praised but one man to do so much
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>>130076829
please go back to plebbit with that spacing...lmao HELICOPTERS hahahaha
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>>130077020

you ahve no clue about mathematics if you think 1+1=2 is obvious, well that is , but 1-1=0 is not obivous and you need to prove a lot of shit to come to this point

it's also only true for certain number systems , f.e. in a residue field you can have 1+1=0 , or 1+1 = 3 ; depending on how you define it


please stop talking if you have no clue about anything
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I wonder (((who))) benefits from Germans and Slavs fighting each other?
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>>130077285
mathematician here, can confirm
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>>130076664
I've gotta say, I like your exposition.
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>>130076406

He was refering to some really stupid promises certain german generals made promising non-russian lands to russian volunteers

>>130076410
Sadly no, i mean, i could spend half an hour and translate it, or you type it into googletranslate which also takes half an hour. Many documents that are freely available for historians don't get much attention, this is one of them.
The document in TL;DR is basically:
>Hitler: We can't make the same mistakes as in WW1 and afterwards
>Hitler: The Russian Liberation Army can't be let completly out of control, we need to apply the same strict rules we put on our soldiers
>Hitler: Rosenberg is too esoteric
>Hitler: the country lines must remain the same, we can't promise russians from estonia and latvia the lands of these 2 countries
>Hitler OCD'ing about how he's afraid of making the same mistake towards volunteers as during WW1 and after

Concerning documents that get no attention
>pic related: Secret document about how Bulgaria etc. fears the Soviet Union occupying them and make them communist

If you ever believed the
>Hitler wanted to rule all the world meme
there are countless of documents showing that the whole cat and mouse game between the 3rd Reich and Soviet Union was about fearing eachother taking over countries inbetween them
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>>130077099
How would it not? The man literally didn't invent a god damn thing.
>>130077141
Heh, I thought you were serious til I checked that flag
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>>130077344
weren't they always the people who started wars between Germans and Slavs?
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>>130077344
this

people forget that was actually ww1 and ww2 and now online..
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>>130071744

Sounds good, brüder!
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>>130076992
Brain function is mostly determined by brain structure. But you can't comment on brain structure because you have no fucking education. You have a child's understanding of the topic and it shows. You can't even tell me what part of the brain is responsible for executive functioning, memory, linguistics, etc. How retarded are you? Go read and stop embarrassing yourself. Broca's area, Wernicke's area, nothing you've ever heard of because you're a retard. Lmao. Your ideas are so dumb it's hilarious.
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>>130077553
russian empire when?
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>>130077020
that's where you wrong. german mathematics blows your mind
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>>130077344

slavs are irrelevant on the larger scale, they have huge lands with enough viable resources (oil, access to seas) but never really made anything out of it , even under the UDSSR they were largely behind the USA at all times and most victories they had were only symbolic

Germans are gods , they created everything you see, breathe and do on this planet and if you don't realize this you are retarded and belong in the oven.

Germans shape the environment to their will, creating infinite food , infinite energy, flying everywhere, destroying whole countries with one press of a button, moving faster than the fastest animals, slavs let their environment shape them and accept their fate as it comes.
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>>130077479
>weren't they always the people who started wars between Germans and Slavs?

Just reminding everyone here (((who))) the real enemy is. Now to continue with all the bantz. Doesn't matter if Slavs or Germans are better, Burgers invented everything.
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>>130077649
Never.
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>>130077447
>
o really

https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents

didnt invent anything...please go back to school
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>>130077432
danke brother. Also, just curious, which university did you get these documents from? I'm currently at UC Berkeley and is there access to them here?
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>>130076664
Listen dog.Pic related is the superior German going off to the Gulag,where he worked for Slavs until he died of overwork together with 200 000 of his fellowmen.

There is no such thing as inherent superiority.There is only stronger and weaker.
Germans were the weaker ones,Slavs were stronger,and that's why they subjegated Germans.

You people are the cancer of any nationalistic movement.
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>>130077602

look, you are talking about brain function, i'm talking about the EVOLUTION OF THE SKULL


do you deny it? or not? that's all thtat matters , i posted you the pic, you can see it, maybe you need to feel it, go to a museum instead of wanking all day long

accept that it happened, and you accept that races exist, that they developed differently based on sexual selection.


stop trying to slide this thread by posting irrelevant stuff you nigger
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>>130077657
nobody is saying they arent amazing but Tesla for one man did a lot more for humanity as a whole
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>>130077730
t. merchant
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Oh it's this Swiss indian guy promoting his shit again.

He always posts shit about slavs in all threads about them.
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>>130071744
With the shills promoting Russia in the Russia vs EU narrative, that's going to be a hard sell. The way around that is to expose that narrative outside Russia.

4chan may just be one of several venues to do so. The theme ought to be "let's ask Germany and Russia to make Europe great again" and involves promotion of friendship between German and Russian young adults.

National socialist ideals promote solidarity within the nation. That's all fine nationally and locally.

But international solidarity requires transcending the insularity of nationalism and limited socialism that promotes a globalist lite ideal.

Yes, I know that mixing and matching natsoc ideals with socialist ideals is fraught with difficulties, but each ideology provides tools to overcome them.

Ymmv
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That's true he did hate the Slavs
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>>130077890
look your supra state is an abomination and is exactly what Hitler fought against
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>>130077285
ya my dude, 1 apple and another apple is too high level for someone to call "2 apples", but ya my dude it's not like the greeks or arabs or chinks were doing math independently of each other...they went to germania to steal it! LOL fucking delusional Germans and their autistic ideas
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>>130077987
kek Hitler actually said that in order to get a movement it must have socialistic elements.

Also Nationalism is not about hating others. You can be a German nationalist and be homies with Slavs.
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>>130077744
Yes, technical improvements. That's not what I'm arguing. He didn't create field bending theory that he get's attributed to by his cult.
>>130077649
As soon as the US balkanizes.
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>>130072629

He could make you an exception depend on any condition.
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>>130061382
He didn't lowkey hate Slavs. He was pretty open about it. You can just take the lessons Hitler teaches and try to carry the torch for us since we're probably going to be niggerized.
Good luck Toвapищ
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>>130077669
>reating infinite food , infinite energy, flying everywhere, destroying whole countries with one press of a button, moving faster than the fastest animals
I think we can all appreciate German innovation, but you just sound like an overcompensating little faggot when you fail to see all the stupidity that Germans are prone to as well. See my post above for greater details.
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>>130078077
What a fuck do I care what Hitler fought against?

His theory was wrong,which is why he lost.
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>>130077925
>
dude a white person is closer to you then any black guy or asian so stop it with slav not human and shit you sound like a jew and by the flag pic you probably are
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>>130061382
Don't you have some hole in the ground to shit in and clean up, Slavi?

OUT, OUT, OUT!
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>>130077987

Russia is a Slave Plantation run by Rich Jew Oligarchs. EU is a Slave Plantation run by Rich Jew Oligarchs. USA is a Slave Plantation run by Rich Jew Oligarchs. And Leaf, where you are from isn't even worth mentioning.
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>>130077926
he wanted to death meme the nazis, idk
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>What a fuck do I care what Hitler fought against?
o really I guess when jews dump the EU project you will see why
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>>130077849

These are documents i access here from Germany via the
>Bundesarchiv
Some of them are documents stolen from the Soviet Union after the war. But Russia made them available now.
You can start here in english:
http://www.bundesarchiv.de/index.html.en

There are many very interesting documents that smash holes into the worldwide narrative
>pic related: a document of Heinrich Himmler that mentions him being informed by the french secret service that certain communist groups are touring Germany right now
>check the date

France hates the fact that they were more worried about communism in the 1930s and worked together with the Gestapo and exchanged information
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>>130078339
See, this distorted image of slavs is propagated by (((them))). Non-degenerate slavs are actually much more noble. (pic related)
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>>130077969

making sure that you know your place doesn't make me a pooinloo, buddy
The Nordic soul is the only reason everything in the modern world is working and exists. The rest are irrelevant and meaningless.
Modern slavs can be compared to ancient romans, romans would probably win because they had better looking architecture.
The nordic human is on par with alien tier civilization.
Slavs can't understand it, only envy it. Their lives only revolve around comfort. They exist only to exist. They have no ambition, no transcendental feelings (which is also why never a religion was created in a slavic country) of any kind.
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>>130061382
To be a national socialist you don't literally have to idolize the Germans. The ideas can apply to any "nation" / ethnic group.
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>tfw silesian
>tfw hitler considered us aryans
feels good man
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>>130078547
what about Russian empire m8?
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>>130062303
Mussolini was great. Just wish he could been great in the war where these things actually matter. I mean a little help would have been nice.
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>>130077925
No one is denying different groups of people have different phenotypes. The important thing is what the meaning of these differences are. You keep talking about zygomatic arches and brow ridge and septal cartilage. Why? Why do these features matter? You conflate them with intellectual ability, honesty, social success, etc. It's complete retardation. You might as well say "their elbows are pointy so I know they're bad at memory". Uhhh no... they're bad at memory if their hippocampus is atrophic.
The reason you've chosen skull shape and skull shape alone is because you're so retarded you don't have any other knowledge to go on. If you knew jack shit about how the brain works you could comment on it, but you can't because you're so stupid and uneducated.
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>>130061382
just consider yourself part of that "best of them" bit
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try to have it on your mind people
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>>130078547
>The Nordic soul is the only reason everything in the modern world is working and exists.
Can you post picture?
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>>130078629
>tfw Goral blood in me.
>Hitler would spare me.
Feelsgood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goralenvolk
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>>130078721
cream of the crop that is?
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>>130078314

aim higher, don't aim for mediocrity and definitely don't aim lower ; Northern Euro countries are small , they depend on quality, and that includes racial quality, which can only come from strict eugenic breeding
>>130078152

greeks and chinks didn't do math at all , greeks especially were restricted to 2 dimensions (euclidena geometry) and they never fully understood 3 dimensions (hyperbolic geometry etc.)

Nordic humans do mathematics in N-Dimensions. That's the ibig difference friendo.


For an ancient greek , 2 *2 only exists as the product of 2 sides, not arithmetically as a symbolic equation or instruction that you carry out.
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>>130078824
wasnt slovakia in the third reich like us?
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>>130077849

If you need help or documents, you can contact me here, this is a throwaway account i made:
>[email protected]
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>>130078908
Okay,he's a troll.
>>
Anyone who is falling for the slavs aren't white meme, is believing in wartime propaganda. That said, just because the propaganda was false, it was fully justified because the slavic countries were completely run by Jews at that time and anything said to overthrow the Jews is justified.

Now you know the historic reason, you don't have to by into the meme.
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>>130079006
saved :)
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>>130078956
Satelite of Germany.

But part of my family is from Tatras Region. Ždiar.
People there are considered gorals.
They would end up the same like polish ones.
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>>130079142
>satelite
so you were in the reich
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>>130061382

You're a Russian/Slav or perhaps white NatSoc not a Germanic Nazi.

I consider myself NatSoc, I have a lot of respect for the way Hitler organised his nation and helped it rise from the ashes of the great depression. The world would improve greatly if all nations were to emulate his successes and not his, quite frankly, catastrophic mistakes.
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>>130078535
I know, the 12 years a Slav is just too funny to resist! I really mean it about Slavs carrying that torch. The west is in a dangerous place right now. I would rather be in Slavland right now.
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>>130078793

every piece of bread you see was grown with nordic fertilization methods

it's largely the reason why you zergs were able to sustain yourself until now ;)

>>130078675

certain traits have influence on your social impact, most obvious is for example height, and others literally SHOW your "evolutional history" aka "i come from a long lineage which were able to select greedily". stop overthinking this, it's not a system trying to prove anything, it's merely a deduction from simple facts : i.e. certain traits are childlike (similar in form to infants aka infantilized) in their morphology and others are more mature , this exists everywhere in the animal world and especially in the human world


Pic related for example, you can immediately say he is good looking, but you also (secretely or not) know that he could lead any group he wanted if he wants to , doesn't necessarily mean he is a good leader or smart etc. but he LOOKS like it


>>130079034

> t. economics student, because too dumb for medicine or anything that includes mathematics
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>>130078908
troll confirmed, ignores algebra came from arabs...germans are literally KANGZ tier
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>>130078908
what about Ruđer Bošković ? he wasnt nordic

just stop it for every nordic scientist I can find you an equal or better nonordic
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>>130067010
Imperial Germany helped communist in revolution, they shipped Lenin in so he could start shit.

Doesn't that make germans even more linked to the jews? He keep whining about Russians adopting communism, when the gemans were the ones who helped to make it.
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>>130079408
thats the thing they didnt really call themselves nazis they mostly referd to themselves as national socialists
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>>130061382
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THE FLAGS!?!? WHEN DID THIS CHANGE!?!?
>>
>>130079666
"good looking people are good looking, you can tell by the way that they are"


World class deduction there friend. Thanks for your insights. Very powerful stuff.
>>
>>130079966
did he not get rid of the old system in germany ?
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>>130079666
I was talking about picture of yourself,dog.

HAHAHHA about fertilization methods.
You're aware that the fact that Slavs let Germanics live is the reason they survived? :)
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>>130079666
that guy is probably a dumb male model. there's no one that good looking in science, technology, or leadership. the only way he could lead people is if he were a famous international movie star which no nord is.
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>>130061382
Hey, buddy. Commander Rockwell > Hitler
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>>130080024
thought you might appriciate
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>>130079666
>Pic related for example, you can immediately say he is good looking, but you also (secretely or not) know that he could lead any group he wanted if he wants to , doesn't necessarily mean he is a good leader or smart etc. but he LOOKS like it
>>
https://youtu.be/SjD9v9H2UrU
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>>130080215
hah those jews ;)
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>>130079137

Alright good.
Here is also an interesting document that gets zero attention. It is the order of Hitler spread by Göring talking about how any vigilante actions towards jewish people, shops etc. must be punished in the harshest terms because random harassment, destruction of property and violence towards jewish germans is subhuman behavior.
>pic related: the order from 1935
Of course you don't see jewish people in the USA mention this, doesn't fit the narrative
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>>130079966
USA helped Lenin too. Nobody wanted Russia in ww1 Communism was the wonder-weapon that defeated Russia. They didn't want Russia at the table when they divided up Europe. Russia would want a big piece and who would be the one to tell them no.
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>>130061382

This is basically all you need to know, as part of Genralplan Ost

>Russians - 50–60% to be wiped and another 15% to be sent to Western Siberia

>Czechs - 50% wiped

>Poles - 20 million/80–85% wiped

>Ukrainians - 65% wiped

>Belarusian 75% wiped

Any slav who is a serious nazi is an idiot

Source
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost

Further reading
https://forum.axishistory.com//viewtopic.php?t=90383


Inb4 this was all made up, even the documents, for no reason.
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>>130080699
Oh,so Hitler didn't want to harm the Jews,right?
He dindo nuttin?
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>>130080734
if they are natsoc it doesnt mean they are for hitler 100% it means they like the idea of national socialism an ethno state you retarded europhil
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>>130080881
He wanted them gone. Probably didn't care if some got hurt to get it done. This order was about maintaining civility in the matter, and trying to get it done in an orderly fashion.
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>>130080881

I think you misread, try again
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>>130080114
The Imperial Germany which did it collapsed in ww1. He even fought for it i9n ww1. He got rid of Weimar republic.
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>>130078535
>You don't have a culture meme
Open a fucking book ffs.
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>>130081472
do you not think weimar republic was full of the same generals, then it was a familiy thing
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>>130080734
Natsoc can be applied to any nationality. Hell, even Dindus could be Natsoc if they wanted
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>>130081532
? I'm arguing that slavs actually have a culture ffs.
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>>130081354

Exactly.
I even have a couple of documents from certain german courts of the 3rd Reich that sentenced a couple of germans to death for ignoring this civility order

>pic related: 2 soldiers of the 1. SS division "LAH" being sentenced to death in Italy 1943 simply for stealing apples.

Doesn't fit the narrative Hollywood likes to portray of duh evil SS huh?
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>>130081656
true people only think about what the msm is saying about natsoc
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>>130080734
maybe that's cause how many people were at least half-jewish in Russia at that time?
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>>130080312
>that pause in laughing between Hungary and Rumania

am I crazy or is it real?
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>>130081678

>pic related: Page 1 of the same execution document
>it basically warns 1. SS "LAH" soldiers about the punishment if they behave like lawless scum and how this execution of 2 SS soldiers should be a warning to anyone else planning to steal anything from an italian farmer
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>>130081962
this is some solid shit. I should save translated versions to my phone and whip them out when redpilling people.
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>>130081934
its real
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https://youtu.be/gEbX7wIydLo
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