Has Trump destroyed european nationalism?

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Wilders

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UKIP

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Le Pen

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AfD

>>130033804

>nate carbon is still posting

Yes. Drumpf shouldn't let his administration crash so hard

>>130033804
Nah, Europeans just can't understand individualism, freedom, nationalism, and pride like Americans can. It's too deeply ingrained in the mind of the European. They mocked us for decades for being like this, but now they are paying the ultimate price.

My understanding is that trump was very unpopular in the states and as a result became the president. Maybe some new poll numbers could help clear up the confusion.

>>130033804
>Nate bronze

Trump is not responsible for fixing our own problems.

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>>130033804
Heh, he is a Trojan horse.

At least in Germany he certainly did. People see Trump's chaotic white house and flock to the established parties because they're scared of what a big change might bring. Reliably boring is suddenly not so bad.
Also his lukewarm committment to traditional alliances like NATO and general isolationism made people wary to cut ties with the EU for example, something most rightwing nationalists in Europe oppose - "if we can't rely on the US, maybe we shouldn't leave our other strong union of nations".

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>>130033992
you do realize all of these are red flags that the election was co-opted, especially given the terrorist attacks

these are just signs that europe doesnt have democracy anymore in those states

>>130033804
Nate is fucking terrible

1. Correlation =\= causation

What a fucking idiot right off the bat

These trends can equally be the result of propoganda during the election season

Muslims vote. American niggers and beaners don't. That is why.

>>130034731
What's funny is other than the media circus over the nothingness that is "muh Russia". Nothing drastic has occurred in the states and what has been occurring is certainly not the fault of trump

>>130034799
How do I know you ask? Every single graph follows the same behavior which is some scary shit when dealing with meta patterns like country level polling.

Really nice find Anon, proves that the cartel has stolen democracy like they tried to do in America with those polls.

America's so far still to chaotic to control and hopefully remains the nest of chaos the world needs.

>>130033804
NATE PLASTIC IS AT IT AGAIN

>>130033804
He's correct in his assertion that trump getting involved in European Nationalism would hurt it but that simply hasn't been the case so it's irrelevant.

>>130034799
What keeps surprising me is that leftists take these numbers to mean a loss. The PVV is the second largest party in this fucking country. The "respectable" parties are excluding them from any potential government, and that's exactly why they've been failing at forming one. We might even get new elections because of it.

How the fuck is that a failure of anyone but the left, who's most prominent party was reduced to total irrelevance by its own radical voterbase?

>>130033804
Oh noe, they'll call us Trumpists and Russian shills now.

As opposed to being called nazies all the time.

How will we recover?

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>>130033875
You're forgetting the Sweden Democrats, Shlomo.

>>130034985
Stuff like Flynn being dismissed or the excessive leaking is certainly unprecedented in recent times.

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>>130035662
he said nationalist movements.

>>130034985
Yeah, the media bullshitting actually works here. The people believe it. People will only wake up if the US ends up successful under Trump.

It's definitely true, however it has little to do with the way Trump acts.
Whatever would Trump do he would be reported in the worst possible way. At least in the US there are local ways for news to distribute so people know that the MSM is lying to them.

In Europe though they actually believe a new Hitler has arisen, they believe that Trump is being investigated and that he calluded with Russia to hijack the elections.

That's what the MSM tells them. Most of them don't bother to read the finer print or watch the occasion where the MSM is proven to lie.

How many Europeans actually watched Comey testify? And how many were fed whatever MSM lies the media shoved down their throats.

So you see, no matter who or what kind of right wing person would have been elected in the states, and no matter what policy lines he'd pursue, the European propaganda would make the devil look nice compared to him.

Lastly, right wing parties often under performed in the actual elections, see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_regional_elections,_2015

Where LA PEN lost everywhere due to a media blitz against the "neo-nazis". (compare to pols and the result in the first round). Certainly cannot be attributed to Trump.

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>>130035955
>Ukip
>le pen
>afd
>pvv

>nationalist

>>130036138
you're, right, they aren't. none of them are except MAYBE le pen.

>>130033804

trump doesn't have any effect on what you idiots decide

>>130035955
Israel is a bastion of nationalism.
Most of the other nationalistic parties you cheer for were/are also supported by our gov.
That includes FPO, PVV and others.

Our goverment was one of very few that came out against Germany's policy in 2015 allowing for a mass population transfer and called it out for what it is.

Here is an article our defense minister published in a leading German newspaper, against the Muslim invasion:

https://www.welt.de/debatte/kommentare/article147295871/Millionen-weitere-Asylbewerber-werden-kommen.html

Use google translate, you won't get such harsh language against "refugees" anywhere in European politics.

Or maybe hans can assist? >>130035960

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>>130036425
None of those parties want to deport brown people.
They just want to have a tiny little breathing room between guzzling refugee cum.
It's about choosing the lesser evil and pushing the other parties to the right.
SD has been doing that recently.
The opposite is true in all these other countries.

>>130033804
European right wingers never had a chance. It doesn't have anything to do with Trump one way or the either.

>>130036745
Although I will say the one thing that may have impacted it. After trump was elected the CIA etc. got worried about Europe and started working there to ensure that right wingers failed. Maybe Trump made them take their job a little more seriously. But remember, the intelligence agencies basically admitted in front of congress that they needed to take Russian interference and they needed to expose what happened so that Europe knew better how to defend themselves against Russia, Putin and fake news. So maybe Trump and Brexit made the establishment sharpen their game.

>>130033804
>What really happened was that our nationalist/right wing partys have lost EVERY election since Trump became president.
Contrary to the years before 2016 where right wingers usually won?

>>130033875
Wilders never had a chance to begin with.

>>130036736
Like there is any point running on such a platform in modern Europe.
Had I been a nationalist and realist in Europe, I'd first try to improve things slightly and only then, small step at a time move things back to the right.
Unlike the US, most European countries could actually manage this if an actual right wing government got elected and started the process.

With current platforms the right can't get enough power, what good would it do to escalate (for politicians)?

>>130033804
>Blaming others for the failure of your own people to get their shit together

Sounds like a cuck move bro.

If you can't make fellow Europeans understand that the EU has stripped them of their natural rights AND they're committing cultural suicide through a muslim invasion, then I'm sorry but we cannot help you.

>>130035905
People being fired in the executive branch and leaks are not new or unprecedented

What was watergate? What was the pentagon papers, what was. Snowden and manning, what was scooter Libby, what was drudge and Monica lewinski, what was fast and furious and Iran-contra

These were all the results of White House or federal government leaks.

Just because you are a good and easily led by the nose doesn't make it actually unprecedented

>>130033875
>fuck yourself over by not participating in debates + Turkey fucking
>>130033923
>goal achieved and no longer relevant
>>130033959
>achieved the highest vote ever achieved in history of the FN with 34% of the population voting for her.
>>130033992
>protest voters went to Schulz and massive infighting

But no, all of this must be because of Trump. And they never had any winning numbers to begin with.


SAGE

>>130035960
Dude it has nothing to do with Trump. The AfD has a lot of infighting and there was Schulz who siphoned from them. Now they are recovering.

>>130037343
he was first in the polls for a year until he started supporting drumpf

>>130033804
europeans have been cucks for decades, white europeans will disappear within the next 20 years and there is nothing you could have done about it for the last 70 years

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>>130037524
>>130037637
>t. kekistani trump fanboy

>>130037755
No, he fucked up massively by not participating in debates and the cuckservatives had help from Turkey fuckery.

>>130036698
Jews are only a problem as a diaspora, they never did any of their shit before they left Israel, if they can go back there and exist as a normal nation there is literally zero problem.

>>130037788
We're less than 65% white you fucking retard
Trudeau is a closet muslim who just fired his immigration minister because he wouldn't open the flood gates

>>130037884
You have absolutely no way to refute me hence you resort to ad hominems. Just shows how retarded anti-Trump people really are. Just go back to your "day of muh rope" faggotry which will never happen (see SA).

>>130033804
Trump isn't really right wing. he is just a master thief, giving stolen money to his friends and fellow billionaires.

But the rejection of the right wing since Trump is a symptom of decent human beings going out to vote.

>>130033804
I think Europe destroyed it themselves by failing to challenge the problems that plague them.

>>130038141
Oh look another frog communist

Even though trump isnancronyist billlionaire he is the least crony-billionaire we've had running the show since carter

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>>130038027
wtf i love based black guys now

trump is a retard and a globalist

>>130038288
>6 months in and this much concern trolling

If we actually start a new war I'll be worried

And he's already given major fuck yous to the globalists in many different ways

How do people still believe this Nate Silver's jewish polls?

>>130038288
>wtf i love based black guys now
You probably do since you retard voted for Labour.
>MUH ANTISEMITIC LABOUR XDD BASED IMPORT MORE NON-WHITES
>trump is a retard and a globalist
He's smarter than you and all of his opponents and a nationalist who does think about the long term game, which is stabilizing whites at a constant value.

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>>130033804
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>>130033992

Nationalism only works when your male population is uncucked to death. Western Europe is fargone and the male population is numale-tier. In Eastern Europe however you see a rise in Nationalism. Hungary, Poland and Czech Republic are telling to EU to fuck themselves. Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia are becoming more nationalistic due to proximity with Russia. In Kosovo the Nationalist party (Vetevendosje) DOUBLED their votes and became the #1 party from 3rd. A new big war is coming soon. Hold on to you butts.

No, Europeans and their own cuckoldry did.

>>130038141

>being this deluded

He lives a pretty humble lifestyle, at least compared to the Saudis that fuck your wife.

>euros are cucks
Not our problem

>>130033804
Its very likely. I thought about this myself. He is a stooge thats for sure.

>>130038457
It's not even a polls at this rate.
>https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
Has 47% approval amongst likely voters, and between 40 and 42% amongst all Americans/registered voters depending on the polls (except for Gayup which is standing out again).
>https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval_economy-6182.html
His job approval on the economy is even better at +5.

>>130035662
>Sweden Democrats
>a party of civic nationalists that literally doesn't want to kick out anyone
>wants to work with right-wingers to dismantle the last of the welfare state that actually made Sweden good

Sure sounds great. I just hope they get power so everyone sees they're not changing a fucking thing.

And the funny thing is that their policies are pretty mainstream in even other western European countries.

>>130038288
Troll harder faggot.

>>130033804
>Euroshits open hells gates to muzzies and nigs to virture signal against Trump

please be true, I want my vote for Trump to be responsible for the destruction of Europe

>>130033804

They were going to lose anyway. It's too soon for europe to become nationalist. And the right wing is doing fine in europe. It's the left wing in europe that's getting fucked.

>>130037921
I agree, diaspora mostly revolting in their views.
People should just stick to their countries. Tourism/ time limited work visas etc are fine But not more than that.

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>>130033804
Trump became an old meme.

>>130033804
>Or was he a shill to make european right wingers look bad?

nah, he is just a retard and people worry that other politicians like him will also end up being incompetent morons

>>130039193
no its not
The left is stronger than ever in the important European countries.

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>>130033992
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHAT THE FUCK

Yeah, Europe was quite perfect before Trump was elected.

>>130039289
I honestly think VERY small scale immigration (like measured in dozens per year) is okay too but nothing beyond that.

>>130037884
> Falling for the divide and conquer tactics

Im no fan of the Kekistan shit, I think it destroyed the fun in Kek. But that was the whole purpose of it anyways, Sargon wanted to take Kek away from us.

But why on earth do you fall for this ridiculus shilling tactic? Pic related is not the most self-asserted person but its painfully obvious that he was around this place when you were still told to lurk more newfag.

Spreading this dumb Kekistan are loosers meme will only shut down any person who is not a 10/10 chad. Let them do their thing, it helps the cause in the end SO many normies have been pilled, not red pilled but whatever pill sargon is giving out, and its better than no pills at all.

>>130039651
no thats the whole problem right there

Need to think in terms of NATIONS and NATION STATES
These are our countries.
If someone wants to marry a shitskin, they can go live in the third world

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>>130038446
the only good thing he's done so far is mess up western relations (which he didn't mean to do)

he's already got the us involved in syria supporting the kikes of course
>>130038483
>You probably do since you retard voted for Labour.
huh? i didn't vote labour
>He's smarter than you and all of his opponents
dont question anything trump does he's smarter than you!
>stabilizing whites at a constant value
what has trump done to do this?

also why do you have a kekistan flag? are you autistic?

>>130033804

fleeing now is just proof of innate beta cowardice - terribly unfortunate that the population is so passive, and averse to displaying strength and standing up for themselves (however, I'd be lying if I said I was surprised)

>>130039788
But that would also be immigration. You do realize that immigration on that small a scale, distributed throughout both country of origin and location of destination, is completely incapable of making any impact on the genetics or culture of a country?

>>130039693
He's just an edgy teen going through "reee muh secret club". Because in the adolescent mind being original and unique is more important than actually effecting change in the society.

Don't you remember being a teenager?

>>130033804
They haven't lost popularity, it's just the retarded winner-take-all election systems of western Europe that denied them their rightful share of power.

>>130036698
Except Israel purposely destabilising Syria and caused the migrant crisis. Israel is the problem, not Jews. All of this bullshit in the middle east is a result of Israeli influence in western politics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHmhf_wrcrM

>>130039798
We've already been involved in Syria you fuck!

Also Good what has letting the Western Europeans leach off us and use us as defense done for the USA? What has giving countless billions to the UN and IMF and countless others done for us?

It's helped "the us empire". And the globalist oligarchs that profit from it but it doesn't help the peole of America

This is exactly why I elected him, I want to see the us withdraw from the world it was never part of our identity to lead he world, we aren't good at it and it will destroy us if it isn't already to late.

>>130039798
>huh? i didn't vote labour
What did you vote for then?
>dont question anything trump does he's smarter than you!
>question
>"hurr globalist and jew"
>question
Retard.
>what has trump done to do this?
Deporting illegals, intimidating liberals.
>also why do you have a kekistan flag? are you autistic?
I find it fun.

>>130039996
Except it does make an impact and matter
This is how it all started with "lets have a small amount of non-white immigration, we need it, low unemployment, it won't change demographics we promise!"

50 years on and you are a non-white country

>>130040755
Did you hear the part about "Measured in dozens per year"? Because I meant that. ~60-80 people a year is meaningless.

>>130037473
When was the last time a president was advised against making an appointment and then that appointment not even lasting a month in office? Obama's national security advisors kept their post for years.
When was the last time crucial information was leaked to the point of foreign agencies saying they will no longer share information with US officials?

Even if you support Trump, you can't say his White House has been a tight ship.

>>130039034
>calling someone a troll on 4chan
sure is summer
>>130039693
kekistan is self defeating cringe that only makes you look like an idiot and NO it does not redpill normies
>hey what this kekistan thing
>wtf im redpilled now
kek worship was always cancer and you should kys
>>130040288
dont be fooled, trump is still up to his neocon ways in the middle east, why do you think he hates iran so much? because he's a kike

the best outcome is that trump will fuck the us up with his incompetence and bring us closer towards race war, you can bet the next president will be an anti-white lefty
>What did you vote for then?
ukip, even though they're a joke party these days
>Deporting illegals
yeah, "criminal aliens", anchor babies and other illegal rats can stay though
>intimidating liberals
how exactly does this help white demographics?
>I find it fun
you must be over 18 years old to post on this website

>>130040279
>Except Israel purposely destabilising Syria and caused the migrant crisis.
That's a lie.
Israel did zero of anything to destabilize Syria and you have exactly zero evidence to support your claims.
Syria got destabalized mainly by the Arab spring, same as Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen and Libya.

inb4 Arab spring was orchestrated by Israel. Don't forget that Iran supported the Arab spring in Libya, Egypt and Yemen.

The refugees were living in Turkey by the millions for a couple of years since the civil war started in 2011. 4 years later Merkel called them to come and they came.

If only you could reason instead of literally basing your views on nothing at all.

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>>130033804
Europeans like to differentiate themselves from ameripigs, so they decided nationalism wasn't cool anymore.

>>130040279
Your vid supports my point, you don't have anything to support that Israel was involved in Syria in any way.
So you bring up a vid about Iraq a decade prior.

So Netenyahu was wrong.
Are you suggesting no politician ever made a mistake in his life?

Netenyahu wasn't even a politician at the time, our PM, Ariel Sharon, at the time of the invasion to Afghanistan was against it and more concerned about actions towards Iran.

>>130033804
European nationalism was already dead you faggot larper.
If you are going to try to claim alegiance to a country or region, then post with your real flag

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>>130040154
Isn't the problem usually the opposite? Its a strong or a juggernaut right wing party and an opposing leftist party that manages to win by cobbling together all the other sub faction parties that are afraid of change.

Not a bad system because it prevents drastic changes but gives people options but the problem is people are ruled by a larger EU bureaucratic system they don't control that makes MASSIVE changes very fast.

>>130041487
> invasion to Afghanistan
That is invasion to Iraq

Most nationalist options in western Europe are Russian and Israeli operations, or controlled opposition, so they're being obstructed at every step of the way.

>>130041268
Usually there are appointments that don't even get through their congressional reviews. Not to mention most candidates are long time contenders and government officials and therefore their teams are long time coming and they know how to play the game.

I didn't want another politician that knew how to play the game.

Why to fuck are you trying to into us politics when you don't even know?

>>130041338
>neocon

He is a 90's democrat and us politics don't shift that way, we just spent decades under lefty dominance they won't be back in power for some time

>>130033804

ukip went down because they didnt want to compete with tories and risk brexit.

tories didnt do as well because may though it would be a good idea to censor the internet and take freedoms away from native british because her and labour imported non whites into britain and those non whites are fucking things up.

austria almost elected a far right president.

germany will always be cucked.

france will always be cucked.

netherlands too. they are mini germans.

the only europeans with a shot are the british and eastern/central europeans.

the rest are cucked, and will likely form the new axis in WWIII against the allies (USA, Britain and Russia)

>>130037524
>protest voters went to Schulz and massive infighting
You haven't paid attention, have you=

>>130033804
the nationalist parties all increased their share of the vote pretty dramatically (except for UKIP, which already got what they wanted a year ago anyway). they just didn't go all the way. see: PVV second biggest party in NE parliament, hofer taking just under half of the vote in both elections, le pen doubling what her father got in 2002 despite underperforming. and keep in mind that italy kicked out their globalist PM in december, and there could be new elections in austria this fall. if macron blows it with his reforms, we'll be quite possibly looking at a le pen presidency in 2022. the real problems are that the FN are getting cucked in the french parliamentary elections (they're not the leading opposition party, only the second biggest) and the collapse of the AfD

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>>130042148
>the rest are cucked, and will likely form the new axis in WWIII against the allies (USA, Britain and Russia)

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>>130041796
Happy merchants play both sides of the fields at all times senpai. Your damned if you do and damned if you don't. There were always be kike influence in every European and American party until there is an anti jew one. Whites need to maintain balance until it becomes acceptable to want to remove them again. Be patient that time is coming and from voices on both sides of the isle. Though its coming from the left for the wrong reasons *cough* Islam *cough*.

>>130041487
>Israel did zero of anything to destabilize Syria and you have exactly zero evidence to support your claims.
Why did Israeli intelligence falsely claim Syria used sarin in 2013 and again in 2017?
Israeli intelligence has been actively trying to destabilise Syria for decades. Even you can admit that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeyRwFHR8WY
I'm not saying Israel did everything but its quite clear that US foreign policy and media is heavily influenced by Israel fanatics who want to destroy any government that stands up to Israel. Without western propaganda and support for the jihadists in Syria it would have been over before it began. Without TOW missiles from thee US.it would have been over by now.

Netanyahu knew exactly what he was doing. The Iraq war was to destroy a rival. The war in Syria is a direct result of the Iraq war.

>>130042685
>and the collapse of the AfD
AfD was never big to begin with, the only thing that can collapse the regime in Germany is an economic crisis and nothing else.

>Silver voodoo statistics
>understanding continental european politics
Get out loser

>>130038678
He gets billions of dollars from the Saudis. He lets the Saudis fuck his wife, too.

No such thing as European nationalism. Only Anglo nations feel it (minus Canada)

>>130033804
What are you talking about? /pol/s expectations were far to high, all of these movements with the exception of UKIP have done FAR better than they have in the past. Yes, we need more, but this year we have seen the fire is rising. It's only a small brush fire now, but the more these terrorist attacks come, the more the fire will erupt into an inferno.

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>>130033992
SD is still going strong.

Face it /pol/tards
Drumpf is a disaster

>>130043882
>but the more these terrorist attacks come
These only provide temporary bumps in popularity of nationalist options in Europe, western EU regimes can only be brought down by an economic crisis.

>>130042776
>2776
I'm not sure what your digits represent.

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>>130033875
>polls indicate a serious trend
Last I checked polls were inflated to (((signal))) this very trend and Wilders actually gained seats.

>>130033804
Yes that makes sense. Or, and follow me here because this is really out there, the passing of Brexit and election of Trump caused the entrenched globalists to quadruple their efforts in holding on to power and employ every trick in the book to crush nationalism and populism.

>>130043196
>I met British officials
At this point everyone should know exactly what this translates to.
It's BS he invented.
Why did he say nothing then, no hint, nothing?
Why does he have no names?

Come on, anyone can use the "unnamed sources" BS, not just CNN.

>Israeli intelligence has been actively trying to destabilise Syria for decades. Even you can admit that.
Why should I admit something that has no basis in reality?
Why would Israel want to destabilize Assad in the first place? Syria was our most peaceful border for 30 years thanks to him. Safer even than the Egyptian and the Jordanian ones.
Makes no sense.

> US foreign policy and media is heavily influenced by Israel fanatics who want to destroy any government that stands up to Israel.

Really?
Iran.
Israel has been whining about Iran since the fricking 90's.
Our PM was begging the US to go into Iran instead of Iraq in 2003.

What really happened?
The US basically handed Iraq to Iran by removing the Sunni government and installing a Shia one.
Obama dropped all sanctions against Iran, including one's present since the 80's revolution which had nothing to do with the nuclear program.
US policy in Iraq was to work with Iranian proxies.

Are you sure the US is doing Israel's bidding? Because the opposite appears to be true.
Syria was never a threat to us, not even in 48. On their own they are nothing.

>Netanyahu knew exactly what he was doing. The Iraq war was to destroy a rival.
Learn history, Iraqi army was destroyed in the gulf war. The US was regularly flying over Iraq as it was.
How is putting pro Iranian Shia in charge of Iraq and Israel interest?

>>130041975
Yeah and you got one that doesn't know how to play the game, thus chaotic white house.

>>130033923
I don't really think you can compare UKIP. Once Brexit won, the party no longer has a purpose.
The rest is accurate though.

>>130033804
Is there anything these faggots won't blame Trump for? Holy fucking shit

>>130041338
> kekistan is self defeating cringe
What arguments do you have of this other than a few examples of cringeworthy mediawhoring millenials? Its the Atheist fedora meme all over.

Do you seriously think that they don't watch Sargon of Akkad videos? I know that you don't, but the context is pretty much in line with the general consensus of this board. Like it or not. Neckbeards and betas are your allies.

>>130044732
Good

>>130043196
>Why did Israeli intelligence falsely claim Syria used sarin in 2013 and again in 2017?
Falsely?
We have no way to conclude certainly one way or the other. I know you're a cheer leader so immune to facts. But a real investigation never took place.

Read:
France:
>On 2 September, the French government published a nine-page intelligence report blaming the Syrian government for the Ghouta attacks.

Germany:
>The Bundesnachrichtendienst said it intercepted a phone call between a Hezbollah official and the Iranian Embassy in which the Hezbollah representative criticised Assad's decision to attack with poison gas, apparently confirming its use by the Syrian government. BND President Gerhard Schindler told them that based on the agency's evidence, that the attacks were carried out by the Syrian government.

Turkey, UK, US also had their own reports.
So you see, nothing special about Israel providing evidence for this being done by the Syrian government. Whether any of these reports are true, and if there is compelling evidence? We'll only know if/once they are published.

>>130044339
I don't think that's true. The more commonplace these become, the more the bumps will feed off each other.

But we have an economic crises coming, so that will likely be the final piece of kindling.

>>130034731

Americans do not watch or trust the media past entertainment level. Hence - the DOW. You all ate some WWE level material.

>>130035905
So now Trump is responsible for Deep State traitors, who are trying to undo the will of the people?

>>130044700
So why were our governments supporting rebels in Syria but not Yemen?

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>>130038288
This is what I voted for and it just keeps getting better and better every day since the election.

>>130043330
but AfD is doing much worse than it was like 9 months ago. i think they're polling at the same level as the greens now

Is this a thinly veiled "hitler is an idiot because he killed European nationalism" thread?

>>130034480
This.

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>it's an "americans think they're the centre of the world" episode

Generation Identity are going from strength to strength, and things like Justice4Chelsea in the UK show an ethnic awareness is being awakened.

>>130047206
>but AfD is doing much worse than it was like 9 months ago
The only thing AfD can accomplish is cuck Merkel out of chancellorship, in which case you're getting that African dictator type and a social democrat, Schulz.

>>130046269
Actually Obama did fuck all to support rebels in Syria.
Seriously read the reports on the numbers trained, in the hundreds.

Most of the heavy weapons including the TOWs were supplied by the Saudis and the gulfies.
Have you ever wondered why the rebels never got anti air missiles? It was due to US pressure against the Saudis.

Just compare US assistance to the Taliban in the 80's and this? Or even the Iranian support for the Yemini rebels. supplying everything from AA missiles, to ballistic rockets and anti ship missiles.

>>130034566
I doubt it. It's her turn

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>>130047575
go to bed gramps

>>130033804
mmmmya LARPing as a Trump supporter yet talking shit about Trump.. That's not new at all.

>>130047853
I would argue this, but you'd just claim that as evidence of its argument; even the writer understood that paradox.

But instead I'll ask this: if America is the centre of the world, why does America always do Israel's bidding?

>>130033875
gay kike
>>130033959
kike witch

>>130047600
exactly. thankfully schulz for chancellor is dead in the water now

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>>130048513
they rely on us to exist

All mainstream politics in Europe can be assumed
to be as corrupt as the Dem party in the US. There is no telling how much fraud is going on. But considering how much these governments hate their own people, and what went on in Austria, anything is possible

>>130033804
Meh I don't know. I don't think these candidates would've won either way.

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>>130033804
trump is a deep cover german agent like lenin

>>130047803
Yemen's rebels stuff all came from the Yemen government's stock. Nothing from Iran because there is no supply route.

The US and EU put a lot of sanctions on the Syrian government and a lot of diplomatic and propaganda attacks, all of which hurt it a lot. The US did give a lot of intelligence and training to rebel groups too as well as some weapons. All of this caused the war to drag on. I know the US didn't want the rebels to win but they wanted Syria to be seriously damaged and the only logical reason for wanting that was to help Israel. Also rebels weren't given AA because that would endanger US/Saudi aircraft too much.

>>130033804
hes inspired poland, hungary and few others to stand up to the EU.

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>>130048925
>we do what they say because they need us

Wouldn’t it be the case that, were they dependant on you for their survival, that they would do what YOU want them to?

America is just the wallet and the army for Israel and Jewry.

>>130049236
allies help each other out.

Nationalist/Eurosceptic movements are being discredited or rendered irrelevant all over Europe right now. Ruling parties are kept under tight control and anyone who might hinder the upcoming EU federalization are ejected from any position of power. See the recent upheaval in Finnish government; that was a ham-fisted job but it follows the general direction where Nationalist parties are being pushed in Europe: down and out from decision-making.

Federalist/globalist forces control the media and public opinion; they have no problem handling few disorganized wannabe parties.

It obviously has nothing to do with Trump idiot. The nationalist movements you're highlighting are all a joke. UKIP was literally a one issue party who lost its issue. A nationalist is never going to succeed in Germany where they will always be compared to the Nazis. In Le Pen's case she was only polling so well because she was expected to go vs a conservative, vs a moderate she never had a chance because all the leftists voted against her. Wilders still gained seats compared to the last election and became the second largest party.

Basically, the issue is you're focusing on western Europe where nationalism is always going to face an uphill battle (muh nazis). If you look at other parts of the world it's still going strong.

>>130038288
This is accurate

>>130049463
Jews don't have "allies" you chump.

>>130049584
It's going to start spreading when the Western Europeans see how the Eastern Europeans behave, and say "Hey, why don't we do that?" The narrative will blow back in their face because of about 60 years of "plucky little Poland" narratives.

Though the real thing that there'll never be a democratic solution to the issues of Western Europe, so to focus on elections and parties is totally futile; focus in movements and the things normal people are saying.

>>130049134
>Yemen's rebels stuff all came from the Yemen government's stock.

Please...
https://news.usni.org/2016/04/04/u-s-navy-seizes-suspected-iranian-arms-shipment-bound-for-yemen

Pentagon monitoring another Iranian cargo ship headed toward Yemen
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/12/pentagon-monitoring-another-iranian-cargo-ship-headed-toward-yemen.html

>a ship carrying hundreds of weapons, which was captured by the French Navy in the Indian Ocean, originated from Iran, and that the cargo was destined for Yemeni rebels through Somalia.
https://intelnews.org/2016/03/31/01-1879/

>Photographs recently released by the Australian government show that light anti-armor weapons seized from a smuggling vessel near Yemen’s coast appear to have been manufactured in Iran
>The weapons, a selection of at least nine rocket-propelled grenade launchers, were among thousands of weapons seized by an Australian warship, the Darwin, in February from an Iranian dhow that was sailing under the name Samer
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/world/middleeast/yemen-iran-weapons-houthis.html?mcubz=0&_r=0

How many got through?
Not even counting the half dozen or more the Yemenis, Saudis and UAE claim to have captured (some with photographic evidence to back it up).

>>130050219
דו זאלסט נישט

>https://nytimes com/2017/01/10/world/middleeast/yemen-iran-weapons-houthis.html?mcubz=0&_r=0
https://archive.is/2k2AT

>>130049584
France uses runoff voting.
A milquetoast cuckservative would have been even worse than Macron, a deranged commie with a mommy fetish.

>>130050219
>How many got through?
None because Yemen is completely blockaded. They barely even allow food through. The Yemen rebels stormed the capital Sana and that's how they got their advanced weaponry also lots of defections.
Now tell me why the US-Iran deal was bad for Israel?

>>130034731
I doubt it. These people would have always voted for Merkel.

>>130050355
>Macron
>commie
bruh he is anything but a commie economically

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>>130045530
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/11/the-syrian-sarin-false-flag-lesson/

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/06/nyt-retreats-on-2013-syria-sarin-claims/

CANT MOSSAD THE ASSAD

DEUS FUCKING VULT

>>130048947
What went on in Austria?

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>>130050219
cry more sunni-loving shill

>>130033804
Trump is the example of how well right wing politics work.

>>130050782
You base this claim on absolutely nothing, Honestly it seems you know very little in regard to the Yemen war in particular and the ME in general.

If none were getting through Iran would have stopped sending them, they wouldn't send a dozen and more.

Take for example the C-802 anti ship missiles, the Yemenis never had them, but lo and behold the Houtis somehow do have plenty of those.

Look at the list of operators:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-802#Operators

>>130042424
Oh enlighten me then, Mr. I know it all.

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I told you fuckers from day one:

(((they))) are behind the sudden rise in Nationalism, and especially, white Nationalism. They're attacking Nationalism on these fronts:

>make it look weak, stupid, hateful and dangerous using queers like richard spencer
>make it pro-Israel using TRS/richard spencer through the spreading of Zionism
and the last front we have not yet come to:
>allow white Nationalism to rise to the heights, in a controlled manner, only so it may fall hard and never again rise
>all while you make whites the minority

this all results in a deep hatred and distrusts for not only white people but Nationalism, and when whites become the minority, the new majority is now conditioned to accept globalism while rejecting their empathy towards white people.

it's time to either start playing 1488DD chess or start listening to people who are.

>>130052624
People hating non-whites will never go away and these parties who represent that always have a solid voter block. The jews have ridiculed as for a hundred years now and we're still becoming more right-wing instead of falling for their tricks.

>>130052912
>People hating non-whites will never go away
true. racism is innate in all peoples. but when you fan that racism and nurture it, what happens?

>>130053011
Bye Bye non-whites.

>>130051013
Read it in full (the first one). Which I doubt you have.
As with the western reports it offers zero evidence one way or the other. mostly just a lot of propaganda.
It's one key piece of information offered is the Turkish MP testifying that the rebels somewhere in Syria had access to Sarin.
This is no conclusive evidence that they ever used it, much less so that they have used it in Ghouta.

It mostly convinces those who chose not to follow facts.
I am unconvinced one way or the other, as there is no sufficient information either way..

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>>130053218
We must be Nationalists. Indeed: National Socialists.
You see them co-opting Nationalism and injecting Zionism in it.
You see them spreading the idea of "white sharia."
This is all deception.

National Socialism is impervious to this deception; the Jew cannot co-opt this system.
Anything which is not NATSOC is either co-opted already or will be in time.

Good luck in the upcoming race war, goys.

>>130051494
lol, look at you recoiling at the presence of hard facts.
Still you will cling to your completely unsupported in the real world claims as if they were god given gospel.

>>130033804
In the west on the short term maybe.
In the long run depends how he does.

Nationalism will rise from eastern Europe, not the cancerous West.

>>130033992
>Trusting polls ever

>>130053510
Why is Israel against the US-Iran deal?

>>130053959
AfD actually overperforms slightly everytime.

>>130045872
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

My fucking sides!

>>130033804
France was never supposed to be won. They are most cucked nation and Le Pen was never set to win. Austria and Sweden are our next stops

>>130054220
Problem is that people consider voting the FDP for their form of protest, which means the 1% will get additional benefits at the end of 2017

>>130033804
You do understand the "Right wing" was almost non-existent in Europe till recently.
And dont point at there "Conservatives" and go "Hey man thats right wing!"

Europeans generally pick between a Socialist and a communist every election cycle.

If you're more "Right winged" than a socialist, You're literally Hitler In Europe
But now we are seeing more right wing political parties/leaders form and gain a lot of followers.

So 2016-2017 was a success. Yeah we didnt take every seat but we came close. prior to 2013 a real right wing politican in Europe only averaged at like 3-7% of the votes bro. Now its like 40-48%

Moral of the story.
>stop being a lame defeatist

>>130033804
He actually isn't, just that the European media is liberal just as in the states so they push the narrative.

Nate wrong again.

>>130054156
Iran woes to destroy us.
They fund and arm proxies against us (Hamas, Islamic Jihad etc).

Why don't we want our enemies to have more resources?
I don't quite understand the question, but perhaps it's because I don't speak Canadian.

>Cam convince a continent that one man killed 6million people by moving them all to a camp and gassing them.
>Shocked when they can get those very people to vote a certain way

Sucks to suck, EU.

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JEWS have always banded together as a tribe, infiltrated governments, monopolized financial systems of nations, instigated wars, and intentionally created chaos in societies. Jews mass murdered tens of millions of non-Jews over the last century but they've seized control of the media so you won't find out.

http://youtu.be/CEAmtWd6aD0

>>130054709
They can do that if they want, I just hope we get even more violent niggers from Africa shipped into their neighbourhoods to make them "reconsider" for 2022.

>>130033804
Trump has also destroyed American nationalism. Russia, Saudi Arabia and business interests now come before the will of the american people.

>>130035067
I never really thought of it that way, but you're right. Those patterns are very fishy

I wonder how much (((they))) skewed the polls to push their narrative

>>130055024
But without the deal, how would you stop Iran developing nuclear weapons?

>>130044905
>Is there anything these faggots won't blame Trump for?
It's not 'blaming' Trump, it's praising him. He alone managed to destroy the nationalist movements in Europe, that's exactly what they want.

>>130055979
The deal doesn't stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons either. At best it delays it for 15 years.

If the US had not threatened to shoot down our planes we'd likely had dealt with it the same way as with the Iraqi and the Syrian programs.
Sure they could have rebuilt, and we could have bombed again.
Fact is, the Iraqis for example never rebuilt Nor the Libyans after US bombings stopped their program.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2975207/President-Obama-threatened-shoot-Israeli-jets-attacked-Iranian-nuclear-facilities-year-claim-sources.html

(who know if true, but without him stalling us for half a decade we would have likely went for it).

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>>130033875
>>130033923
>>130033959
>>130033992

Does anyone actually believe that the European elections are not rigged by the Globalists? After Brexit, they won't allow true voting.

People worlwide quickly realized that right wing populists are retarded after Trump got elected. Thanks, Drumpfy! You saved us from a lot of trouble.

>>130034566
He was very unpopular by visuals only; Only what the media chose to show and they love to show a few thousand, in a nation of millions, as the voice of the nation. Silent majority exists, just not on screen, and they're why he won

>>130053269
>Read it in full (the first one)
read the second one retard, I didnt link them both by accident

>>130033804
>When Trump got elected we were all hoping for him to be the beginning of a rise in nationalism.
Only retards ever believed that
Anyone with half a brain knew Europistan was too far gone to do anything short of outright civil war
Get fucked you jelly piece of shit, Europe chose this and now it has to live with it

>>130033923
Nige literally invented UKIP to make Brexit a thing, it was never meant to exist past that hang yourself

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>>130033875
>>130033923
>>130033959
>>130033992
these things take time

>>130035905
>leaking is certainly unprecedented in recent times.
t. teenager

>>130058996
Actually Europe saw what a real man looked like and realized all of their "nationalist" parties were just leftist piece of shit parading around populism for power grabs

that's what i have been thinking all this time. A big cause is Trump. Sad!

>>130060160
>Actually Europe saw what a real man looked like
lmao stop projecting your homosexual opinion of Trump onto the rest of us

>>130059454
filthy mouth you have. Read the second one as well, as suspected it has no additional information at all. I went into the links in this article as well, but they have only lead to the information I formerly referenced in regard to the Turkish MP.
Basically it's a lot of speculation and very little actual information.

>>130059807
1. He didn't found it
2. Brexit isn't a thing yet

UKIP are dead because half of them are idiots and the other half are too busy infighting.

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>>130033804
>european nationalism
No such thing after WWII.

>>130059920
Fuck man that was a JEB like SUUUUUUUUUUUUUURGE

Also the SPD has the same numbers now as they had in 1932.

>>130033804
Yes he has destroyed European nationalism and everyone who denies it is just plain ignorant. The media can spin every story about Trump the way they want it and your average citizen has eaten it up. A friend of mine's parents are quite high ranking local journalists and they told the same, that they felt with Trump dominating the news cycle here people stopped talking about the rising right and started associating them with Trump doing embarrassing stuff. Reminder that people hated Bush for no reason, just because the media told them to. Trump is a thousand times worse.

I would say Brexit and Trump caused a decline in European nationalism, that will flare up with the next migration wave.

>>130033804
europe is a left socialist pit ...

>>130060733
Oh? I was under the impression that until Nige became the head of it they barely had 100 members?
Brexit passed though, which was the whole point of UKIP
>>130060532
>If you respect a man you're gay
So what's it like being a woman?

European nationalism was destroyed by Europeans. The word "European" has no meaning nowadays. Look at my flag. Can you guess what's my skin colour, which language I speak, where my grandma lives, etc?

>>130061572
To be honest when I think of French nowadays the first thought that comes to mind is a guy with dark hair dark eyebrows and dark eyes. I was genuinely shocked to see a blond french girl.

>>130061189
You can't destroy something that was already destroyed. (((European nationalism))) is clown's show.

>>130061334
You're not respecting him, you're admiring his dick you fucking closet homo lmao. Read what you wrote again closely. Unless in your opinion a "real man" is a fat, disgusting, 70-year-old slob who yells in front of a microphone.

>>130033804
No. European nationalism has been rising. Just because they didn't win (which they weren't predicted by anyone to do anyway) doesn't negate the fact that they have advance greatly. And there is the fact that the youth voted for nationalism while baby boomers who are on their death beds voted for globalism.

The future is nationalist and Nate Silver is still a fucking retard.

>>130033804
Trump didn't do bad. Europeans are the problem. They keep shooting themselves in the foot.

>>130061572
>European nationalism was destroyed by Europeans
By Americans actually.

>>130061729
I never said otherwise but when you have Trump spouting stuff like "grab her by the pussy" "climate change is a chinese hoax" and the media doesn't need to twist his words just show them then your average citizen will eat it up. Because let's face it the average worker has no time to spend on political internet forums and the 20 minute news segment at 8pm is all he gets.

Trump works through provocative statements. The same way the new right operates. But Trump managed to dominate the newscycle more than the new right. So from June to now wow, almost one year my local right wing party has almost completely vanished from the radar. Which is why they dropped almost half their voters. And the rest could easily be belittled by comparing them to Trump. When even the talkshows talk about Trump but not local issues anymore it's only a win for the establishment.

The best we can hope is that Trump is kicked out of office before he can complete is term and run for re-election because the same media domination will happen again.

>>130062011
USSR was also part of it and USSR is in Europe.

>>130034846
Liberals love this. Its the same with global warming. They view correlation and causation as the same thing

>>130061189
Do you really think that Le Pen would have won if Trump hadn't won?

It doesn't have any sense.

>>130062280
Just look at how the media here treated Bush. I was only a child when Bush came into power but the majority of people was absolutely convinced that Bush was the new Hitler. When people asked you in 2008 who you would vote for McCain or Obama and you told them McCain then they'd think you were batshit crazy. People like to hate on the Republicans because every single media outlet is left to their positions. If you had a nationalist movement in 2004 that worked with Bush's positions and strategy it would've been destroyed quickly

>>130033875
Hurt by their more moderate conservatives staging the TURKEY IS EVIL thing.

Few months later and they don't act on it, have you noticed it?
>>130033923
Farage left, party didn't have any guidance and died.
>>130033959
Bad debate performance, poor chances in the first place.
>>130033992
Leadership shakeups, after Trump elections the party is only brought up by media when they call them nazis. According to my German friend don't know it first hand.

From what I also know is that there's massive shilling campaign in whole Europe.

Nate Copper is a fool. The reason why Trump is unpopular in Europe is because nationalism is unpopular in Europe.

What scarier is that with the libtards recent loss a lot have been calling for pure mob rule democracy. They want muh politician with the most votes cast to win. They think republicans are keeping the electoral college in place to make sure they lose and nothing else.

>>130062534
She wouldn't have won necessarily but her chances would have been better. If 100% of the media tell you that Trump is Hitler reincarnated and then you have a local politician that just does the same as Trump then the chances drop massively. Because it motivates the establishment. Europeans like to feel smarter than Americans. How many people support Trump in Europe? 5% or something. Even Le Pen supporters don't support Trump necessarily. And that's bad for attracting more voters.

>>130062011
>Muh pussy hurts, dat be whitey's fault
We've heard this before. Quit acting like a monkey infant and take responsibility for your own actions, or inactions.

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>>130033875
>>130033923
>>130033959
>>130033992
BRAVISSIMO DONALD TRUMP

>>130062339
It was more the CIA than the Soviets. The 68ers in France were a CIA color revolution. And of course Germany has been under American control since WWII.

>>130041268
You mean the illegal unmasking of flynns conversations with the russian ambassador thay had nothing to do with the collusian with the russian narratives the left wing media was pushing? How do you not see that he was a scapegoat in am effort to consistantly undermine the trump administration from the start. Thats the whole point of this entire fucking thing. The liberals just keep changing the narratives and the goal posts to try and get anyone in the trump administration in trouble. We've had a year long investigation with no evidence of collusion to undermine american democracy

>>130033804
>>130033875
>>130033923
>>130033959
>>130033992
No, this doesn't mean nationalism died. It means the governments killed democracy in Europe. They didn't take the nationalist movements as a credible threat until Trump was elected.

Now they're pushing propaganda everywhere and rigging their 'democratic' votes to stay in power.
Every European country has become de-facto totalitarian dictatorships. Europeans just haven't realized it yet.

>>130063067
It's simply a fact. Gaullism was defeated by the CIA because it was a threat to atlanticist power. And since the fall of communism it has been America as well.

>>130033804
As long as European leaders stubbornly refuse to address the problems that caused the rise of nationalism and populism, we won't be leaving the game anytime soon.

>>130033804
>yfw Trump ensured all Europeans will emigrate to America by mid century to escape Islamism

>>130062890
Trump is unpopular in Europe for a little different reason.

I'll give you an example.

I don't watch TV but I regularly buy one of our tabloids since they have 2-pages big(woah) "politics" section which often has quite interesting interviews with various politicians etc. Also Korwin and Miller write columns weekly there so it's another plus. Overall they're quite normal politics wise, you could even say right-leaning. However, after Comney hearing they've printed an article(in later section of the paper, which I only skim through) with huge "TRUMP COLLABORATED WITH RUSSIANS".

In more "serious" papers this thing is probably printed on a daily basis and in the west it is worse. I can only imagine what television broadcasts but it's probably super-fucking ugly.

In the US anybody who kept track on the media coverage of the last elections has seen what kind of shitshow it is, but over here people just don't realize it. Even so-called experts are proven victims of false news on daily basis - just after that recent "gas attacks" by Assad, one expert invited on an interview to the mentioned paper said that "Assad did this before" referencing to that 2012/2013 falseflag by rebels.

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>>130054526
Hows middle school these days?

>>130063055
The French election system makes it impossible for a candidate like Le Pen to win. She never had a chance. You can't blame Trump for this.

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>>130055510
Nice bait

>>130061189
No, the liberal left-wing governments have temporarily prevented people from expressing their nationalist opinions.

The only thing Trump did was trigger massive propaganda campaigns across Europe to manipulate the public into support crazed left-wing radicalized political beliefs. It is going to bite Europe in the fucking ass, and the politicians as well.

To put this another way: The European politicians have kicked the can down the road. They didn't change any of their policies, they just cracked down on dissent. The dissent isn't going to go away, and as the radical left's policies continue to fail, it is going to increase.

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>>130063345
Key stone was laid in Nuremberg trials. When everything that has race or nation in it was stamped as absolute ebil (except when you talk about jews). Everything else is just consequences of it.

>>130064491
>the liberal left-wing governments have permanently prevented people from expressing their nationalist opinions.
Fixed for you.

>>130064491
Do you really believe this?

Just compare todays' politics to politics from 2006. In 2006 there were massive demonstrations against the right, if someone decided to speak out against the leftists he was basically DEAD socially and in the workforce.

>>130061572
Black, French, Algeria

Didn't they make the biggest gains they've ever had (ignoring UKIP)

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>>130065195

Fake news, despite the polls, all the nationalist parties won and anyone who implies otherwise is a jewish shill

>>130064837

lol you must have been a baby in 06

>>130065195
>Algeria
>Black
>The computer club of nazi larpers

>>130065508
Shut up and practice some Spanish mulatto. You aren't able to talk European politics anyway.

>>130033804

They didn't win but they did grow significantly since last election cycles and the trend long term world wide is anti-globalization and anti-government.

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>>130033804
>Has Trump destroyed european nationalism?
What? No. In fact it's the complete opposite. But that's not what (((they))) want you to believe. Simple as that.

>>130064131

In Western Europe, people disliked him even before the allegations of Russian ties came out. He was seen as a bad person the moment he started his campaign back in June 2015.

>>130044039

(((SD))) is controlled opposition

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>>130033804
A much more likely scenario is that the western European establishment is trying to build a media narrative against Donald Trump and Nationalism in general across the globe so they cherry pick certain cases then present graphs with a short time line hoping that some good goy shabboi Neet Soc like OP swallows it whole.

Fact Wilders increased his share of the Vote.
Fact Le Penn increased her share of the vote.
Fact UKIP accomplished their political objectives.
Fact if Trump is responsible for the AFD collapsing he also responsible for the Social Democrats collapsing.

Grow a fucking brain and see how you are being used to spread establishment propaganda you stupid Neet Soc.