WTC 7 collapsed due to office fires.(official explanation). See

Well, I guess the resulting structural weakness from high temperatures combined with thousands of tonnes of concrete and metal falling down next to it could have contributed to it collapsing.

>>130013669
you guessed wrong. try again

>>130013786
k

>At approximately 2:00 pm, firefighters noticed a bulge in the southwest corner of 7 World Trade Center between the 10th and 13th floors, a sign that the building was unstable and might collapse.[37] During the afternoon, firefighters also heard creaking sounds coming from the building.[38] Around 3:30 pm, FDNY Chief Daniel A. Nigro decided to halt rescue operations, surface removal, and searches along the surface of the debris near 7 World Trade Center and evacuate the area due to concerns for the safety of personnel.[39] The fire expanded the girders of the building, causing some to lose their structural integrity. This led column number 79, a critical column supporting a large part of the 13th floor, to buckle, causing the floors above it to collapse to the fifth floor; however, this could not be seen from outside the building. The structure also developed cracks in the facade just before the entire building started to fall.[6]:21[40] According to FEMA, this collapse started at 5:20:33 pm EDT when the east mechanical penthouse started crumbling.[5]:23[41] Differing times are given as to what time the building completely collapsed:[41] at 5:21:10 pm EDT according to FEMA,[5]:23 and at 5:20:52 pm EDT according to NIST.[6]:19, 21, 50–51 There were no casualties associated with the collapse.[40] NIST found no evidence to support conspiracy theories such as the collapse being the result of explosives; it found that a combination of factors including physical damage, fire and the building's unusual construction set off a chain-reaction collapse.[42]

a fucking plane flew in the wtc retard.

>>130013508
Different design and construction probably. Plus it was much much taller so more mass above the fire damaged areas.

>>130013508
Different construction type, this one has a reinforced concrete frame as I understand it, way smaller building too.

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>>130014087
you know damn good and well that logic is illegal when debating a conspiritard.

>>130014072
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv7BImVvEyk

>>130013508
Stel bemz

>>130013911
>911
nice

>NIST
top kek. try harder

>>130013911
>Daniel A. Nigro
That's highly descriptive.

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Really reboots the old head computer doesn't it?

>>130014227
Yeah the WTC was made of balsa wood and tissue paper

>>130013508
Did a secound larger tower collaps next to it causing a massive amount of structural damage to one side of the London tower?

Oh... you think WTC 7 collaps just from fire and not because it also had rubble carve out the back end of it...

>>130013911
That is all fine, I can totally buy wtc 1 and 2 collapsing due to fire / melt etc

What I cannot logically accept is for BOTH towers to fall so neatly and accurately within their own footprint so perfectly... that shit is shady as fuck, you've got to be a dumb cunt to think fire did that

>>130014227
and the fire was a lot hotter and burned for a lot longer.

>>130014296
Nah it looks more like he should be hot-dogging her

>differently built structures

WHO WOULD HAVE FUCKING THOUGHT?

>>130014668
>That is all fine, I can totally buy wtc 1 and 2 collapsing due to fire / melt etc

no you can't.
you are missing the fact that there was no rubble.
there should have been 110 million tonnes of twisted steel and debris.. there wasn't.
the towers literally turned to dust.. watch the footage..
the towers blew away in the wind mate

>>130013669
>thousands of tonnes of concrete and metal falling down next to it could have contributed to it collapsing.
I sometimes fall down too when someone drops something near me

>>130014783
I saw big chunks of the building fall within its own fingerprint then turn to dust even before hitting the ground yes... but the rubble is there , a lot of it as dust on the Hudson and in to the air

>>130015034
No George W Bush sucked it all up in his WTC Machine of Doom Holographic Device that CNN covered up

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Daily reminder that no plane hit this building.

>>130013508

Firefighters did a nice job. Saved the bottom of the building and the surroundings.

>>130013508
im willing to bet if a commercial jet liner crashed into this building it would probably collapse

>>130013508
Maybe Indian build quality isn't as shitty as Mexican?

I solved the riddle.
The London building had no steel beams to melt
It's structure was pure concrete

>>130015472
WTC was also concrete.

The heat from the fire made the rebar soft so the concrete failed..

>>130015034
>but the rubble is there
???
no its not.. it turned to dust.. thats not the same thing.
its either rubble or dust, you can't say they are the same thing.

>>130015321
thats how indoctrination works

>>130015748
nonsense !

>>130013508
Delete this goyim

>>130015440
>indian build quality
>in a discussion about WTC from a country without nigger-tier construction standards
What the actual fuck, kanker

>>130015321
I'm willing to bet no commercial airliner crashed into WTC 7.

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AE911TRUTH.ORG

3000 red pilled architects and engineers. Join us. Non professionals can sign the petition too in a different section.

>>130015136
>what is sympathetic demolition

pick up a book for once

>>130016030
>3000 red pilled architects and engineers

shilly as fuck. thats the counter conspiracy
look into it.
Its the equivalent of 'the men who killed Kennedy'
made by the CIA

>>130013508

even more fucked, the owner of your pic related is a jew who lent larry silver a bunch of money to secure the lease for WTC

>>130013911
>>130013669
Ntsc cites fires from burning office furniture as the cause of the collapse. Just how high temp do you think chipboard desks and wheely chairs burn Mr swecuck?

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>>130016094
Care to link me to something about "sympathetic demolition"? Nothing on Google about it

>>130014660
Actually the official report does not blame the cosmetic damage caused by debris for the collapse, it blames fires. So there goes your snide remark.....

>>130016804
there's a video of the first recorded instance here

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1497530373778.gif

>>130014087
Actually that makes a lot of sense. Concrete columns actually sway less if they have more force applied to them from the top. Sometimes meaning that you have situation where there's more rebar in the top than the bottom.

>>130014660
>causing a massive amount of structural damage to one side
>uniform collapse at free fall

pick one

>>130016094

Sympathetic demolition... jesus christ. Blow it out your ass dude.

>>130013508

The London building was reinforced concrete... WTC was just exposed steel beams.

Reinforced concrete doesn't become much weaker in high temps.

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>>130017033
Sympathetic demolition sure does work in strange ways

>>130017217
that still doesn't account for much though does it.
where was the rubble?
why the dust?
why the thermite?
what about the free fall speed down to 2 stories,
there should have been about 50 stories of rubble and the 'collapse' should have slowed down significantly.

too many questions there for you to simply say
>muh heat

>>130013508
US building codes != ROW building codes
just look at those disposable one-generation sheds they build.

>>130017033
>>130016094
Congrats you're now a 911 truther bevause thats not the official explanation.

>>130017702
good goy, questions are for the ignorant!

>>130017398
>where was the rubble?
>why the dust?
>what about the free fall speed down to 2 stories

Concrete floors crashing into each other at high speed pulverizing everything (domino effect).

>>130017398
>50 stories of rubble
You think every story is about 50% concrete and steel in volume? Do you live in some sort of bunker?

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>>130017824
nigga please.

stay off the anime, kid

>>130013508
SUPERIOR

BRITISH

ENGINEERING

>>130017898
>as apposed to literally no rubble
do you even have eyes?
and wouldn't that counter
>>130017824

wake up boys.

>>130014668
>buildings get hit halfway and 2/3 of the way up
>conspiratards expect the building to fall over like a fell tree

Watch some of the videos. There's clearly the upper half of one of the towers collapsing and falling onto nearby buildings.

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>>130018013
No rubble?

>>130017930
Concrete when reaching breaking point just cracks, unlike many materials it doesn't go through some elastic deformation process, which is why it "pops". So if the concrete goes and you have some rebar bars it can go fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp6WwA6ikC0

>>130013508
>not understanding basic civic engineering
>not understanding concrete and steel

School yourself gypsy

>>130014668
>What I cannot logically accept is for BOTH towers to fall so neatly and accurately within their own footprint so perfectly.

Because it was the floors crashing into each other on the way down (the top part actually tilted over).

Just like domino the floors fell where the builders put them (pretty logical)

>>130018476
thats like 4 stories of rubble
>inb4 its in the basement

what all 110 fucking stories or whatever it is?
nah mate, I dont buy it.
the towers blew away in the wind - how does that happen?

Whether 911 was an inside job or not. Who cares. Let's just say it is to fuck the globalist. They do the same to us.

>>130014783
Wait a second, I definetly understand it now

The buildings were fake friends, they never even existed. They were made from SuperGlued dust and supported by Jewish magic. The planes were actually small drones that just looked big (seriously take a closer look at this youtube vidya I'm going to show you)

Think about it, the buildings were probably always empty and made to look real inside. The cheap Jews probably didn't even make the floors they just made a giant hollow box.
KILL YOURSELF BRIT FUCK

>>130019295
did that hurt?

>>130019084
>the towers blew away in the wind

Some parts of them actually literally did just that because of pulverized concrete floors.

>>130013508
The bottom is intact and can easily support the top

>>130014668
>he thinks skyscrapers made of a hollow skeletal system of metal and concrete will mimic the behavior of a falling tree when collapsing due to a critical failure in structural integrity

Brainlet

>>130019366

I honestly don't know what you are suggesting happened

What is your genius idea as to what happened

>>130019393
and what about the steel?

>>130019568

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPRYu98CCgc

>>130019084
Don't know the exact dimensions, perhaps you should make a drawing and calculate the volume.
Of course there will be some compression perhaps like 10-20%?
And a floor is 1/25th of the length of a floor and the colomns are like 0,4x0,4m2?
Then you prove to the world you're right.

>>130013508
i don't know what they teach in gypsy schools but there is that discipline called "classical mechanics" and it says that in case of an inelastic collision, which was the case the plane didn't bounce off but rather got absorbed into the building, then most of the kinetic energy the plane had(and it had a lot considering its mass and velocity) must've turned into heat, spread around a relatively small area of the building where the plane hit it.

>>130019492
im not telling you.
its better for you to learn these things by yourself.
If you are actually interested, you will.
4chan 9/11 threads are just for people to berate one another, no one actually learns anything.

>>130014072
Youre flag is fucking gay

>Thinking all Americans don't already know this
Might shock you all, but we do not trust whatever the government says.

>>130019618
Im not even going to dignify this with a response.
please would you give me an indication of your age?
I hate talking to teenagers

>>130019634
I take your point but It doesn't do much to sway me as there are so many other factors to consider.

Other countries should sell their non-collapsing tower technology to America.

>>130019835

Your main "argument" seem to be that there was no debris?

You really should take a look at that video again. Also, why did these domino towers fall vertically into their own footprint?

>>130019699
>let me open your eyes m8
>where did the concrete go after 911
>Where is the rubble man ???

I've heard many viable conspiracy theories but this has to be the worst. People who believe
911 was staged don't deny the fact that the building actually collapsed

You on the other hand are suggesting not only that it was all staged, but that the buildings were fake too

You should really consider killing yourself
>>130019835
>teenagers
Says the man who believes that twin towers never even exited

>>130019655
WTC7 was not hit by a plane. It got detonated. However, I don't really care. What exactly was the function of the WTC and WTC7 again?

>>130013508

https://youtu.be/TJNzaMRsN00?t=586

>>130013508
Everyone knows that it wasn't the planes impact that took all the buildings down on 9/11, but rather an extremely potent nerve gas that exploded when in came into contact with the air. It caused the buildings to get eternal bleeding and die. We all watched it live.

>>130020068
>You really should take a look at that video again.

I've been watching videos and reading for 10 years.
all angles, all theories

the debris is one of hundreds of points. thats why you just screaming dominos over and over again makes me laugh.
my top 3 would be
1.dust
2.debris
3.supposed lack of planes

although there are many many other interesting angles to the story.

not trying to change anyones mind but I'm simply not having people moronically repeating
>muh heat
>muh concrete
>muh pancakes

>>130020103
>You on the other hand are suggesting not only that it was all staged, but that the buildings were fake too

great reading and writing skills there!

I love how they say they found the terrorists passports on the streets on NYC

Ya know cuz they fell out of their bags and out of the plane when it exploded

>>130020233
>Ok, guys. This presidency isn't working out, what should we do?
>How about we crash commercial jets into the pentagon, the twin towers and one straight into the ground for good measure? That should really get the public fired up and give us a blank check to do anything we want.
>Nah, that plan seems lacking.
>How about we also demolish a nearby building?
>Yea, that's the plan.

>>130015136
You can see the fucking penthouses at the top collapse before the exterior of the building enters freefall. Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFJa9WUy5QI

>>130013508
Hopefully this will lead to tearing down all the shitty office in apartment blocks put up in the 60s and beyond and replacing them with actually good buildings

And then the natural response to a terrorist attack would be to send troops to a country that was fighting the same enemy, like Iraq right?

If you ask me, in a War on Terror, I would have started at our nations haunted houses...

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>>130020535
>lack of planes

Are you suggesting planes were fake too ? Is anything real ? Is life real ? Is consciousness real or just a trick ?

>>130013508
wat

UAF had 2 PhDs and one PhD student make video recreations of what NIST did and it appears NIST got everything completely wrong https://youtu.be/EKN4qilUOfs

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>>130015014

WTC 7 had direct structural damage from WTC collapse.

Conspiracy fags always use photos that angle it out of the picture.

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>>130021003
the thread will end when i say this but yeah..
Im not convinced there were any planes.

If there were then Im almost sure they did not cause the free fall collapse of 3 buildings.

>>130021175
looks like 3% of the building.

why did it fall directly into its own foot print at free fall speed??

if i took out one of your legs, you would expect to fall to the side r-right?
careful now, dont defeat your own point in the process of trying to answer me

>>130021276

Im almost sure you're and idiot.

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>>130013508
Stop being retarded.

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>>130021276
Someone should screen cap the entire conversation

This is gold
>911 was staged
>but
>there were no buildings
>there were no planes
>It was all fake, the whole package

Some of you fags need to start using Occam's razor ASAP

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>>130021276
>There were no planes
>Yet somehow 4 planes full of passengers disappear

>>130021515
I totally understand but what we both need to realise is that I could be right in tern, making you the idiot.

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>>130021447
>buildings are the same as people

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Because the WTC buildings were American engineered and collapse after an hour of a small fire.

British engineered commieblocks are resilient and can withstand 48 hours of fire and still stand.

>>130013508
this is a concrete building, not a glass tower with a main central bone like wtc.

>>130021607
how is that impossible?

>>130021447
>not understanding how buildings collapse

It is physically impossible for a building to collapse as a tree

You said that you analyzed the videos for 10 years
I say that you should have spent that time watching cartoons like the rest of the children

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>>130021667
>physics isn't physics

>>130021276
>Im not convinced there were any planes

So they faked everything, even they eye vision of thousands of people in New York?

Or maybe these people are fake? Maybe New York doesn't really exist? Maybe the US doesn't exist.

Btw, you don't exist either. You're just AI in my little universe simulation I've got running in my toilet seat in the future (I like to have something to look at when I'm pissing)

>>130021447

My weight is not distributed like a building. It's not gonna collapse to the side because that is not where the weight is pushing down on.

When buildings are constructed they have load bearing pillars, It was damaged during WTC attack and all the weight it was holding up came down on it.

>>130021838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMQWzdc175A

All fake of course... kek
Planes doesn't exist. Everyone know that things heavier than air can't fly.

>>130021834
let me correct that

>physics isn't my understanding of physics

>>130013508
a-any minute now, j-just you wait

>>130021834

Fuck how do you function at this level. You must be clinically retarded.

>>130013669
>falling down next to it
Man swedes really are gullible.

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>>130021760
>You can't disprove something because it has a non-zero chance of being true.

>>130021974
correct your life before you find the gulag, PUSSY

>>130021838
>eye vision of thousands of people in New York?
HAHA
only people to witness that shit are CNN reporters and executives

fake news.

>>130021789
jesus wept lad.
why do you keep ignoring how it fell.
theres a hundred videos of it..
this is the problem with you people, you focus in on the tiny particulars of what someone said and desperately avoid the whole picture.

you can't have it both ways,
he posted that to try and suggest the building was damaged on one side. you can't then move on from that and say that cause a UNIFORM collapse starting with the air con unit on the roof about 1000m away.

stop with the specifics please, dont you think its strange how MULTIPLE buildings fell down (at free fall speed directly into thier own foot prints)
after being hit but 2 planes?

yes or no
strange or no

>>130013508
>American architecture

>>130013508
Just goes to show that American engineering is pure shit

Fuck off bluepill, go back to whatever shithole you crawled out of
This was all settled years ago, there's no reason we need to talk about this again

>>130022181
this
>>130021838
there were many people who specifically said that they didn't not see or more importantly HEAR any PLANES.

theres even footage of reporters and agent looking types putting words in peoples mouths..
once again, look into it if you want. its all there right in front of you

>>130013508
Youcan't really compare two.
Don't forget Americans build houses out of cardboard

>>130022250
>A building gets hit by a plane, the crash and the resulting fire cause the already shitty support to crack, the building collapses
>this happens again
>two buildings fall and weaken the third one the has the same weak structure and collapses after a long fire

I see nothing wrong here

>>130021891
thus proving my point.
>down on it

>the corner

not 100 fucking % of the entire structures into its own grave

>>130019713
Kek

>>130022250

You talked about a person before. What if a person was holding up a 200 pound ball standing there. Then you his his leg out from under him. That ball is going strait down. Understand?

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>>130022100
good lad, someones learnt something ITT at least

>>130013508
>WTC 7 collapsed due to office fires.
Invisible office fires.
Plus they stored a lot of jet fuel in their offices.

I'm so tired of the official-narrative BULLSHIT!

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>>130022108
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>>130020535

>there were no buildings
>there were no planes
>there were no witnesses
>all the footage is fake

I think you two need professional help

>>130022510
then were done here.
thanks for playing

>>130022547

yes it goes straight down you idiot, the weight is distributed.

>>130022662
and you specifically said that buildings are not people so why are you now trying to turn this around on yourself? lol

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>>130022684
>TFW you're a brave jihadi who sacrificed himself punish the great satan only to get some retards on the internet to blame it all on bush

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>>130022735
thanks for the (you's) gentlemen

>>130022805
yeah, when its rigged with fucking boom sticks it does.

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>>130016094
>sympathetic demolition
/thread

>>130022905
this is another thing..

do you think that some fucking arabs who have been documented to be the worst student the flight school has ever had.. managed to bank 2 jumbo jets perfectly into specific targets at speeds the plane can not handle at that altitude? twice in a row?

coz I fucking dont

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>>130013508
>16 years later
>dude wtf do you mean they said they were pulling the building?
jet fuel can't melt steel memes.

you revisionist official story fags need to be shot.

>>130022735
This

I just think there is something basic in human nature to try to find other (weirder) explanations for things. It's basically just like some fanatic religion (you can't tell a religious fanatic to stop believing in his God).

I'm 100% sure these people don't believe in the moon landing(s) either.

>>130023270
we WUZ HIGHLY TRAINED AVIATION EXTEPRTS AND SHIT ???

>>130022832

Hoping you would understand that a building is a pillar with weight on. Seems you are to dumb.

>>130019699

anon5 pls stay in your larper containment thread.

>>130013508
Strong independent British building who don't need no steel beams, that why.

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>>130023391
>I'm 100% sure these people don't believe in the moon landing(s) either.

Lets save that for another /thread, anon

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>>130023442
top kek

previous thread to (((dig into)))

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>>130023270
I will come to your house, rape your wife, behead your children and sodomize your asshole. And after it's all done I'll tell you that's it's for insulting Islam.
>Well actually it's because I got too close to the truth when arguing the official story of the 9/11 events on the internet and you're merely an agent of the deep state sent to silence me.

>>130023423
its a big rectangle, I was trying to defeat the previous anons point trying to say that people are looking at the building from the wrong angle..
thus suggesting the damage there alone caused the uniformed collapse. remember?

stop going round in circles anon, there is much to discuss

>>130023038

ok retard, if it was a controlled demolition with dynamite, How exactly did the windows not get blown out?

An explosion large enough to bring down a building that big would have blow out all the windows for multiple floors

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>>130023748
Gee, I hope not. Ive got work tomorrow

>>130023915
thermite or maybe it was something unknown.
I do entertain the underground nuke theory a little bit as there are cases of it being used IRL.
really not sure, I'm just saying 'Hell No' to this silly little 2 planes/3buldings into dust crap.
Its fine if you believe this but i dont.
you have all done a seriously shit job of trying to convince me and indeed, yourselves of this.

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Hate to be that guy but these were the only ones I had on hand

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>>130024166

Any of you fags know what a demolition is

>>130024166
I guess that settles the
Concrete vs Steel fight

>>130024240
>a picture of a steel beam
>WHAT DID THIS !!?!?!?!?!?!

A building collapsed moron

>>130016120
Nope. Just people asking for another investigation. What would you suggest Muhammed?

>>130013669
You guess. You guess. Shut the fuck up.

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>>130024273
hurrr I guess it do
>pic related is you thinking you have won a non existent internet battle, right?

feels good, am i right?

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>>130013911
>daniel a. nigro

>>130024396
suggest?

personally id like to see a plane fly into a building and then the building turn into dust with my own eyes.

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>>130024166
B-25: 9000kg
767: 86,000kg minimum operation weight

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>>130024391
>>130024391

Are you fucking dense

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>>130013911
>mfw "fire damage"

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>>130024391

Since you chinks probably don't have access to google

>>130015034
>but the rubble is there
the fact that the french film crew wasn't crushed to death disagrees

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>>130015136
>Daily reminder that no plane hit this building.

Was Building 7 demolition meant to be coincided with the collapse of WTC 1?
The pyroclastic wave (the tsunami of debris) from collapse of WTC 1 was meant to hit Building 7 hard enough to cover the sound of demolition, but it never came because someone fucked up the demolition of Building 6.
Building 6 just melted from the core (thermite), but sturdy outer walls remained intact and blocked the debris wave.

So the guys with their fingers on the demolition buttons had to ask the higher ups in the command chain whether to proceed.
The higher ups decided things could be covered with censorship and propaganda and decided to "pull" Building 7 several hours behind schedule.

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>>130025029
>BUT MUH $0.2's
>MUH REALITY!!!! ITS TOO FRAGILE I TELL YOU
>FOR THE LOVE OF COMFY - NOOOOOOO

Im not sure what side I agree with more.
BUT
Pentagon gets hit but no one was working that day. This is the part that can cause a conspiracy to form.

>>130014072
not wtc 7 retard

First one to throw the word around, is usually looking at himself

>>130013508
Makes you think huh?

>>130024752
You got me there senpai but I didn't have any other examples

>my point being that even if the plane size was different the building was specifically made to withstand collisions with lare aircraft, that's how we know for sure that it wasn't because of compromised structural integrity

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>>130025707
Uncommon.

>>130015136
Daily reminder that WTC 7 had multiple large fuel tanks inside the building that fed the fire.

>>130015136

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYyeaTKaANo

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>>130025707
Saaaaddbutruuuewww

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>>130025029
So your telling me that an explosion inside of a beam would destroy it but also make a clean cut ?

How do you even get a charge inside of every beam on every floor ?

Wouldn't the beam be destroyed by the then collapsing building if it were a supporting beam ?

It just looks like random rubble, doesn't look like a steel beam even. And certainly doesn't "prove" anything

>>130013508
....and a couple of planes crashing into it..
But you know..what could that possibly do?

>>130019655
>having to invent an entire plane crash to muddy the waters around WTC7

Globalists in panic mode.

>Already know that Israel and Saudi Arabia were and still do co-operate in covert and clandestine matters
>Neither country, especially Israel, was new to terrorism in the US
>Known arrests of israeli secondary attackers in vans filled with explosives
>Known information on the Saudi terrorists and their links to Mossad
>Collapse of enormous 110 story WTC towers even spawns massive changes in the architectural world for super skyscrapers from a single "tower" of cores to several individual towers of cores (i.e. burj kalifa and several others built on this principle)
But then
>NO
>I DON'T CARE IF THE EVIDENCE IS REAL OR THAT WE KNOW ISRAEL DID IT
>IT WAS A PLANNED DEMOLITION
>AND ALSO THE PLANES DIDN'T EXIST
>AND ALSO THE TOWERS DIDN'T EXIST
>AND ALSO THE FOOTAGE IS ALL A TWO DECADES AHEAD OF THE TIME CGI EDIT AND ALTERATION

Maybe "trutherism" was the tried and tested Jewish trick of poisoning the well, because any call to expose Israel for their terrorism gets pulled up next to this bullshit

>>130026092
>having to invent TWO entire plane crashes to muddy the waters around WTC7

Globalists on suicide watch.

>>130026024
look into thermite and nano thermite and all will become clear to you.
the beam would not be 'destroyed' in the simplicity way you keep eluding too.

maybe if you try and be specific with your words we could help you.

simply saying 'dominoes' 'pulverised and 'destroyed' means fuck all in an investigation.

and if that doesn't look like a steel beam to you then you must be some sort of lesbian.

>>130013911
So basically they were built even more shittily then other buildings of the time and actually would collapse due to fire, why wasn't anyone sued due to this.

>>130026127
I think you are in the wrong thread sonny jim. This is a discussion about WTC building

S E V E N
E
V
E
N

...which collapsed into its own footprint (ie: the path of greatest resistance) despite having not been struck by any planes whatsoever.

>side of building is damaged by debris
>building's center falls down first, followed by both sides at once

>>130026092
wtc 7, not the 9/11 attacks idiot.

>>130026024
Don't forget that if it were detonated, it wouldn't be that clean (only cuts that clean come from human hands holding torches), and would be instantly mangled by the collapsing building above it. How did it escape so cleanly and without getting mangled?

Oh, thats right. The debris, refuse and metal scrap was immediately disposed of within a few weeks after the WTC collapse.

watch this documentary it explains it all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M

>>130026092
No planes crashed into WTC 7.

>>130026490
>(only cuts that clean come from human hands holding torches)

thermite does the exact same thing but better.

>>130026517
>5 hours

>>130013508
Lol @ invisible office fires. It's ok Santa Claus still thinks you're nice.

>>130016094
good thing all those explosives were already placed before wtc 1 and 2 were hit by planes

>>130026350

Wait, I thought that the buildings aren't real ??????????

>>130026487
>wtc 7
>not the 9/11 attacks idiot.
Kys retard

>>(OP)
But jet beams can't melt steel fuel

>>130026794
and I said I do not enjoy talking to teenagers

>>130026024
Yes that's exactly what I'm telling you because that's exactly what happens

>you don't need charges on every floor, with most buildings one or a few lower floors are enough to cause the building to collapse on itself at a speed that fast

>>130026218
>>130026518
And? The crashed into two massive towers beside it, catching fire amd recieving massive structural damage from the shockwave caused by the collapse of the two towers

>>130027005
read the thread you fucking retard.
we have already been over this.

>>130026640
yeah but how didn't the beam get destroyed ?
It was a supportive beam right ? So that means that if you would destroy it all the above weight would destroy the now "cut" beam completely. The cut would not be clean at all, it is questionable weather you would be able to see the cut at all after 125 floors falling on it

This just looks like
a)random debris that is not a structure beam
b) someone cut a random beam for some reason (rescue ,whatever)

>>130019084
>it all blew away!

Yeah , remember all the dust and the giant plumes of smoke?

>>130013669
he only talked about half
the other half he poisoned the well and didnt even FUCKING ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN SHIT
the fucking building wouldnt of fell
the others didnt fall from PLANES
GO TO HELL FUKCKER WHY DO YOU BOTHER TO GET ONLIN FOR?! FUCXK U IF U THINK ITS OK

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>>130020710
that is the main reason why i dont believe the official story. its so fucking ridiculous

>>130013911
nice digits mate

>>130014072
>wtc 7
time to kys

>>130026860
>on most buildings only a few floors need to collapse on itself for a building to collapse

Didn't a plane crash into the building and literally destroy 4-5 floors ?

>yeah you need to destroy only a few floors to collapse a building
>it must have been some sort of thermite or explosive on the beams
>what ? A plane hit the building ? FAKEEEE NEWWWSSSS! !! ! ! !

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>>130024147
>underground nuke used on WTC

Nigga what the fuck are you smoking

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>>130013508
Have you actually watched any film of those buildings coming down and the immediate aftermath. It's like Godzilla went 12 rounds with Mothra with NYC as the octagon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJbGm7GE1tA

>>130013669
Why would metal falling down next to it contribute to its collapse?
More to the point, why would metal falling down next to ti contribute to it collapsing vertically?

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>>130027115
>This just looks like
>a)random debris that is not a structure beam
>b) someone cut a random beam for some reason (rescue ,whatever)

whatever indeed. You're fucking painfull stupid, anon. please stop speculating without anything to back up your drivel, its a huge waste of everyones time.
>inb4 you're on 4chan
Do you have anything to contribute apart from your own ideas and fantasies? its late in the thread and you have provided NOTHING that can be backed up


>The cut would not be clean at all, it is questionable weather you would be able to see the cut at all after 125 floors falling on it

exactly. one of my earlier points that you completely ignored. well done, we got there in the end :)

>>130027502
It didn't
Address here
>>130013911

>>130027151
never forget

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>>130014660
like this one here wait its not collapsed but hey yea just throwing some shit out htere

>>130027232
Yes, because it passport are know to be brittle and easily damaged and could never survive a fall from ~100 stories.

>>130027397
>Didn't a plane crash into the building and literally >destroy 4-5 floors ?
>and literally destroy 4-5 floors ?
>and literally
>destroy
>and literally destroy 4-5 floors ?

fucking gas yourself


no

>>130027437
look it up.
they have been used before

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>>130027602
(((dressed it here)))
>NIST report

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>>130027536
>you're fucking painfully stupid
>stop speculating without anything to back you up
>fantasies
>your own ideas

Says a man who believes
>there were no buildings
>there were no planes
>no witnesses either
>all footage faked
>underground nuke

>>130027655
fyi that's also a government op

>>130013669
There were buildings closer to the collapse zone, why weren't they torn down?

>>130027868
im sugesting these things are not impossible.
where as you are TELLING people what definitely did happened because your definitely not a 16 year old faggot or anything.

see the difference?

>>130027655
>15 story building vs 50+story building
>one was built to withstand a tornado, the other is fragile and not as structurally sound

>>130013508
i live within a mile from the tower i can smell the burnt plastic and ashes will i get cancer

>>130028061
nah, just more immigrants mate.

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>>130028027
>fake buildings
>CGI planes
>underground nuke
>NOT IMPOSSIBLE

>>130028027
Bro I can tell you right now there was no fucking nuke, that's fucking insane cart lady talk

>>130028027
Personally I think that the planes did a sick barrel roll before crashing into the towers. You can't disprove me.

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>>130027005
WTC 7 didn't catch fire.

>>130028054
HEY FAGGOTS NISA OR WHATEVER THE FUCK IT IS DIDNT ACCOUNBT FOR STRUCTURAL DAMAGE IN THEIR CONCLUSION.
AND WE DONT HAVE TO GIVE YOU ANY ANSWERSR ON THIS SHIT
GO SUCK JEWS DICKS MORE

>>130027768
can't tell if you are a fucking idiot or just plain fucking idiot.

>>130013508

Wasnt WTC hotter? Im pretty sure debris from the towers being hit is what started the fire in building 7.

>>130028202
then explain why for fucks sake lad?
>>130028201
there are real examples of both you melt!
and I didn't say the buildings were fake, what the fuck does that even mean in your mind?

>>130028241
>google "WTC 7 fire"
>get pictures of fire inside the building
???

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>>130028217
good for you mate.
>>130028201
forgot pic

>>130026385
>Discussion of WTC 7
Open your eyes nigga, I am clearly referencing those who posted about, with pictures, and comments about, the fucking twins.

>path of greatest resistance
Least, actually. It's not a solid, rigid structure, not a solid cube of concrete. Taking out a bit at the bottom doesn't topple it because it doesn't have a center of gravity over the centroid of the space, which wouldn't cause an OUTWARD fall but a pivot around the point it contacts the ground. Which is impossible. Because y'know, foundations. This ain't china.

Regardless, not enough was "taken out" to cause that, even if it were some kid's enormous toy block of wood.

So where would this sideways force pushing the debris out come from?

It was a compression structure, where all the weight of the building, the "load" is being carried in compression by the structural columns.

Considering;
>Debris striking so hard it caused structural damage to the columns, and took several out
and
>Simultaneous uncontrolled fire IGNORED BY FIREFIGHTERS FOR HOURS
Any concrete, or similarly brick or masonry, compression structure in those similar situations would eventually collapse. Extended exposure to high intensity fires causes severe structural weakening and cracking with concrete, especially as trapped and cured water with in the concrete superheats, expands and forms cracks internally within structural members.

>>130026127
YOU BLAME THE PERSON SAYING IT AND NOT THE IDKOTN KNOW WHATBUT ITS A SAYING ANDTHATS WHAT UR DOINGBLAMINGTHE MESSAGECARRIER NOT THE JEWS PERVERTING IT
GODAMN CONVERSATION IS FUCKED SO MANY SHILLS JOINED IN WITH SO MANY DISINFO POINTS
THIS IS WHAT THE ANTI-TRUTH PEOPLE WHERE
THEY DEGENERATED AT THIS TIME INTO THIS
into what this video is about and it DOES call out (((them))) just u need to take it literal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpxrGZlGpxw

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>>130028305
>replying to Europeans

>>130028372
>>130028460
>I didn't say buildings were fake
yeah you did faggot, you said there was no rubble or steel only dust. You said that
"buildings were made of dust and got blown into air, there was no rubble or steel except the first 4 floors"

Right here
>>130020535
>>130019568
>>130019084
>>130018013
>>130017398
>>130015758
>>130014783

>>130013669
Totally. Trained pilots in simulators couldn't even come close to hitting those buildings at that speed, but yea.

>>130028692
jesus fucking christ.

Syrian Refugee named among victims.

>>130028692
I have not once said ITT that
quote "Buildings were made of dust"

fucking kill yourself.
If I'm talking to a canadian right now I'm going to be pissed

>>130026640
Except thermite immediately becomes molten once lit, then falls, because its a fucking liquid and that's what liquids do.

Even if it somehow manage to not drip away and magically CUT HORIZONTALLY, it still wouldn't be that clean. It fucking melts indiscriminantly.

You're still ignoring why it is somehow pristine and intact and it and so many other beams that were totally-not-cut-by-torch-and-later-recycled/dumped never got those "clean cut" ends mangled by all the debris collapsing on it.

The loads and forces would definitely lead to plastic deformation of a steel structural member.

>>130028692
im gonna argue about the buliiding disappearing to a guy who thinks that everything is fake on everything and argues that and makes the dumbest ideas to blow away the idea ofseptember elevth

please you godamn mother fuckers should be hunted downand killed
get off the GODAMNINTERNET WE DONT CARE your worng and wasted space
i dont knw what makes u think its ok to do this on the intenret
im just going to go out and just start KIlling people
why?
id ont know do I need a reason? your a fucking IDIOT.

SSTOP wasting everyones time its not an arguement or even anyone cares.

>>130028522
>ignores that I named the jews to begin with
You also need to fight the traitors and the gullible members who drink the fucking kool-aid too

>>130015748
The concrete failed in exactly the same way over every foot of the building. Okay.

Do people really see this as anything other than a controlled demolition.

>>130013508
Fires below, burned for 92 days,under water. Molten steel visible to all was outright denied by Gov. officials.

>>130029094
I thought it was instantaneous?
also are you implying you are aware all technologies know to man..
nano thermite was found on the scene and there is no reason for it to be there so I'm just putting two and two together... at least its a start.
we can't prove it either way but its good that it was mentioned.

as to you r second point id argue that not all beams required termite or (whatever they used) to bring down the building. that would be ridiculous.
hence only some examples of beams cut cleanly at 45 degrees

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>>130029094
we dont owe u no explanation for any of this shit>>130028245
>>130014424
>>130016945
this is what the arguemnts about
thats why they are making ridiculous claims>>130026127

>>130027005
>NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
>The impact of the planes caused shockwaves which de-stabilised one building in the surrounding area so much it collapsedd in onto its own footprint, but did nothing to any of the others at all.

Well, that's a new one.

>>130015136
How many people died because of wtc7 collapse?

>>130029745
not sure, they evacuated the building in advance.
some pretty fishy footage from inside there.
really made me think

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>>130029685
THEY ARE SHILLING OUT EVERY FUCKING TOPIC ON THE BOARD THATS WHY
>MUH NEW FLAGS
DONT TAKE ANY THING FOR ANYTHING IF HTEY USE A FAKE FLAG cause theyre probably a jew
>readme.jpg
it has some of the stuff they're doing on this site in it.

>>130029848
>ILL BECOME A TRUTHER ONE DAY GUYS SO dISTRACT AWAY FROM THIS TOPIC AND SLIDE IT DOWN MY ASS

>>130029934
In English, please

>>130028485
>Least, actually


A building with support beams affords less resistance than thin air now.

The bat shit insanity of the globalists is just disintegrating before our eyes now.

>>130024938

this looks like a staged demolition.

I cannot comprehend how Americans still think 9/11 is not shady job. Literally stupid nation.

>>130013508
WTC 7 was obviously pulled. I'm not entirely sold on the 9/11 conspiracy theories, but it's crystal clear that 7 was brought down on purpose. Lucky Larry even admitted it on film, for fuck's sake.

To the guys telling because the british one had concrete,look up what concrete does when heated.Pro tip: it expands,producing cracks and exposing the steel that its supposed to protect.

>>130029463
>nano thermite
You realise that essentially equates to particles smaller than the size of dust motes and sand, right?

Even if this magically gravity defying thermite exist, you would find very obvious and sizeable nodules of aluminum/iron oxide alloys (the product of burning thermite) at the site, and clear deposition on the steel beam.

If you want to go confirm this, you can go test it for yourself how much thermite residue is left over and how much thermite you need in the first place. You can even go find the blueprints and buy essentially the very same sort of I-beam yourself.

Unless again, its also technomagic controlled by the illuminati government.

>>130030116
They are called dumbfuckistan for a reason,mate.

>>130020710
Yes, it's one of the least brought up parts of the story, but one of the most revealing.

Why don't they make the entire plane out of the passport!

>>130029094

A hillbilly succeeded in replicating horizontal cuts with falling molten debris in his back yard. What's your excuse?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO7SvhYI_0Y

American building standards...

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No. WTC 7 collapsed due to a new phenomenon known as (((thermal expansion))). Everyone knows that. This article here from Popular Mechanics (pic related) written by Arianne Cohen says so.

>>130021175
Haha and you think that will cause the building to collapse into itself like that? Jesus Christ. Hey my friend knows this Nigerian Prince who needs some money, but he will triple the money you give him. You game?

>>130030161
>You realise that essentially equates to particles smaller than the size of dust motes and sand, right?

I dont see how that relevant?

>you would find very obvious and sizeable nodules of aluminum/iron oxide alloys (the product of burning thermite) at the site

and they did, didn't they?

>>130021276
It's a distinct possibility. Would explain, for example, why the engine landed so far away, and why that engine did not exist in those models of planes.

>>130013786
the conspiracy that they would blow up wtc 7 doesn't make any sense either. it was an irrelevant building and 99% of people don't know or care about it compared to the real WTC buildings.

especially if we assume the pretext was to invade countries for Israel.

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>>130030161
You mean something like this,mate?

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>>130026092
warrior of kek huh? wew lad

>>130030454
yeah the FACT that the engine they dropped off wasn't ever used in the type of planes 'used' is hilarious.

>>130030099
Where is this lateral force coming from?
I mean it'd be terrible if I'd somehow missed these magical sideways forces from learning mechanical engineering.

So tell me, where is it coming from?

Also, where is all this solid space for "resistance" when the support beams collapse after being compromised by fire and alleged debris damage?

>>130030128
And then, once you accept that WTC 7 was rigged for demolition before 9/11/01, you have to look again at the way towers 1 and 2 went down and ask whether you are still unable to doubt the federal government and media narrative as it stands.

>>130030324
(((Cohen)))

>>130030478
>irrelevant
>stores all the files in the clinton investigation
Its like you shills arent even trying anymore

>>130013669
good goy

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>>130030666
every time

>>130014718

WTF, I can't unsee it now

>>130021838
Holograms. How did people only notice planes flying that low that close to the building? How did those people hit the buildings dead center when pilots with 1000's of hours in simulators under the EXACT same conditions could not?

>>130025135
The mental gymnastics required to hold this retarded view boggle my mind.

You conspiracy theorists are seriously mentally deranged.

>>130031086
maybe you dont even need the hologram.

you just quickly make it up on TV as it happens...

>>130030676
that's simply not true.

>>130031190
and how the FUCK would you know that?
serious question

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>>130030478
So you are saying that WTC 7 could not have been demolished, because nobody knows what was inside it, so therefore the collapse of a Manhatten tower block would have been ignored by the media and would have failed as a pretext to war?

That is... inventive thinking.

Here is some inventive thinking of my own. The NYC Emergency Management agency was housed in WTC7. Who knows what its work might have entailed in the run-up to the disaster?

>>130027693
litterally in the fucking debris and dust and fire from the planes blowing up and disentigrating into the building but that one little passport survived and was found out on the street. seems legit? occams razor and all that.
how could you believe that? how could it happen. more than likely the passport was thrown on the ground by someone after the crashes and collapses

>>130030495
>1mm
>100 micrometer scales
I'm talking CENTIMETER SCALES, over 10-100 times bigger senpai

>>130030387
>How that is relevant
You'd pretty much get nano-thermite particles at any situation where aluminium collides with steel at high energy.

>They did, didn't they
See the pictures in the above replied post.
These are particles on scales of 1 millimeter and 100 micrometers (0.1mm). Any thermite ignition that would be used for melting through metal would create particles on the scale of 10mm, over ten-100 times bigger. These particles are just too small for that, with depositing on the melted surface

All the pictures of the "45 degree angle cuts" don't have melted surfaces either - they have the serated look of a blowtorch of the guy working on removing the debris so his jewish master can sell it off for scrap after fortuitously getting mossad approved (((insurance)))

>>130031604
hmm you could be right. but Im still not sold.
what about the other 6'000'000 anomalies?

>>130031594
Jewish agents and interests in the government were keen to mop up any thought that it might be israeli, and provide a narrative. Produce a passport, mossad gives you the details, boom, war to stop Russia and US joining hands and achieving peace in the middle east and distract them.

>>130031288
because all of the tenants of the building were irrelevant nobodies except 1 or 2 floors occupied by leftovers of some U.S agencies like the Secret Service.

>>130031604
i think if something should be 10X100 bigger in your view does not mean that 2 planes brought down 3 or more buildings.

its a detail that can be argued but does nothing for the overall question

>>130031190
Go on,funny shill.Its your only purpose to entertain me.Go on,how thats SIMPLY not true,because you say so.
>WTC7
>IRS office
>FBI office
>DoD office
>SEC office
Yeah how would it true that important files were there story in paper format only.

>>130031947
dont be so gullible anon, you know that I know that you know that you do not know what was in that building. just admit it

>>130030128
ok. so how much time does it take to set up the explosives for the demolition? are you saying that they had set up the explosives in mere hours after the happening of the twin towers?or ... maybe they had put it before

>>130032226
the latter.

there was all kinds of 'work' going on on the twin towers and WTC7 in the months leading up to the attacks.

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>>130013669
There is some sort of genetic defect with Swedes.

>>130032396
>>130032226
also there was extensive work updating or removing abstestos during that months before.
could be significant..
i can't fully remember but I think there were reports of many vans coming and going at night with work men inside. unmarked vans, no company accountable. my memory is hazy on this though..

>>130031770
>The other 6million anomalies
Personally I believe most of them are mistaken information, e.g. saying red-hot solid steel was molten because people don't really care to be specific, or wanting to believe.

It's a burning topic because it was important to structural engineering, and the post 9/11 changes get forgotten because of /x/-level theories, when you can explain it in the geopolitical view. Take arrests of the israelis with a van full of explosive rigged to blow heading to the scenic bridges is a clear example of a follow up terror attack to double down the panic. I actually don't think that the tower collapses (twins, 7 or other) were expected, because just think of it

Two planes have just crashed into the towers
Another hits the pentagon and mostly missing because it touched down too early
Another didn't hit anything (but could have)
And one of the bridges in NYC goes up in flames, collapsing as a bomb destroys it

What do you think the effect of that is? The towers collapsing were just an unintended byproduct - the cherry on the top

>>130032545
Sweden has cheap vpns,great % if you buy hundreds for your shills.

>>130032110
the IRS was a MINOR tenant of the building, occupying i think one floor. the DOD and CIA were literally the two smallest tenants and shared one floor with the IRS. the FBI was not in the building at all, and the CIA is not an investigative agency. the secret service had 2 floors.

>>130032112
fuck off shill

I'm sick of this shit, it's been almost twenty years. How long we gonna cry over spilled milk?

>>130032620
yeah maybe but I disagree. Im only interested in how the towers fell to be honest.
not bothered who did it. I just really enjoy a good mystery and you have to admit, no one really knows what happened otherwise we wouldn't be ITT