Why do you oppose the legal union of two consenting adults

>>129991293
I don't. I oppose the political agenda behind divisive politics.

Why do they NEED a legal union?

>>129991293
When did legal unions involve love? I thought it was about creating more human beans and having someone support you?

>>129991293

What's next, BDSM marriages? There's no reason to cater to people with degenerate sexual fetishes

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>>129991293

Because they spread AIDS and fuck kids.

>>129991293
Because the government shouldn't be involved in marriage with draconian contracts.

>>129991293
Cause fags cant give birth, so no need for them to be in a union that was made solely for child raising.

>>129991684
The benefit of a legally recognized relationship, such as for tax purposes, name changes, inheritances, job benefits, insurance beneficiaries, etc.

>>129991293
I don't. I oppose gay marriage, but unions are acceptable. As long as the left's push for homosexuality in all forms of life and media stops, however.

>>129992044
So for money, right?

>>129991293
marriage is a religious institution. Why do so many libfags care about being apart of something they dont believe in the first place.

>>129991293

I don't. I was initially very against them having the right to marry too. I thought it'd be the end of the world. Six years later I can admit that I was wrong.

>>129991816
Everybody spreads aids and fucks kids, your points invalid.

>>129991293
Cause it's gay. It's a very simple concept, anon. Nature abhors faggotry.

>>129991816
Actually it's straight men who fuck kids.

>>129992511
It's both. You do see a significantly higher incidence of pederasty in the homosexual community, though. Plenty of accounts of homosexual men having their first homosexual experiences in their childhood/early teens with older men.

>>129991293
Fuck i always want to bash all you faggots but then i remember NPH and get sad :(

Why can't you all be proper homosexuals like him? Fucking faggots.

Also, there already was registered relationship. Only faggots want to get 'married' because they are fucking sick in their mind.

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>>129992511
Mudslimes and priests are especially bad

Most of the time we could give less of a shit, but if you guys want to keep waving the rainbow flag and bragging how gay you are into our faces... well were gonna say fuck you and fuck off

>>129991293
because I dont like faggots

>>129991293
Because in Finland legally married people are allowed to adopt.
I don't mind homosexuals registering themselves as degenerates but that shouldn't come with the right to adopt a child.

Homosexuality is a perversion.

>>129993103
We get tits and heteros shoved in our face everyday but we don't cry like babies and tell them to fuck off.

>>129992044
>such as for tax purposes,
>job benefits

this should not be included. Why should it be included?

>>129993408
>We get tits and heteros shoved in our face everyday
>97% of the population is hetero
What an injustice!

>>129991293
Because it's state promotion of perverted behavior. It also accelerates the break down of the family unit. If you want to see what that leads to, take a look at any area with a high population of niggers.

>>129991293

Because widespread homosexuality lowers birth rates, raises STD rates, encourages men to act like weak effeminate sissies who cant defend their country and is also tied to higher rates of mental illness, domestic violence, promiscuity, child abuse and general degeneracy.

In other words its just plain old bad for society so why encourage and reward it? I want to encourage and reward white nuclear families. Not men licking whipped cream out of each others arseholes in a club.

>>129993725
>97% of the population is hetero
Who are you kidding?

>>129991293
It doesn't matter what /pol/tards think, it's already a reality, just get over it.

>>129992238
the libfags as a whole just wanted to spray salt into the wound of christians

your point is very true for the individuals who actually believe it though. Total sheep.

>>129992240
Yes? Because it doesn't really affect you when the homosexual population is in actuality very small?

It's not natural.

>>129993902
Sorry, 1.7% in leafland, according to national statistics.

>>129991293
I don't. I oppose pride marches and gay's adopting children though.

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>>129993906

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>>129991293
Why do you oppose the legal union of third consenting adults in love, /pol/?

>>129991684
Spot on with this.

Modern marriage is a legal document between you, your spouse, and the government.

Marriage is between you, the adult consenting, and your God/Family

I am against all forms of marriage which is mostly a change in your tax filing status

>>129991293

While you're wasting your time on /pol/, Islam just slaughtered 29 gays in the Middle East. Legally.

>>129992238
Because marriage is a legal institution. It was originally and it still is. The ceremony was co-opted by the church, but you still have to file at the courthouse. Likewise, to get a divorce you have to go through a legal proceeding and not a "religious" one. Get a clue.

>>129993699
For the sake of equality and equity. Check out this court case, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Windsor

>>129991293
Pederasts

I've never been against gay marriage BUT what happens in your bedroom should stay in your bedroom, there is no straight pride crap, there is no straight flag, there is no nothing there are strip clubs but keep in mind they do gay shit too... all I'm saying is keep it to yourself's, nobody wants to see you lick a dildo in public (P.S the last time a straight guy bragged to me about how straight he was... he turned out to be in the closet)

>>129992044
Marriage is an institution made specifically for hetero couples. All the benefits created for couples to make having children easier. They can't have children. Why should they keep the benefits?

>>129991293
>pro gay marriage thread
>flag
Why am I not surprised

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>>129994454
tell him to stop making a fool out of himself

>>129994422
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Windsor The ruling addressed the issue head-on.

>>129994321
>For the sake of equality and equity. Check out this court case, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Windsor

If they are actually a couple and don't get any rights, they're worse off than they usually would.

If it's 2 men and they get THE SAME benefits as what was traditionally a housewive and a man, it's more than they usually would.

Yeah, yeah, DINK faggots are also a problem. But they didn't need to change the law to cater to them.

>>129991293
because it's gay

>>129992044
Most countries already consider gay couples (or anyone living together in an intimate relationship for more than a year) commonlaws, which is just about the same as being legally married.

>>129993847
Yes finland, because there's masses of straight white men that are lining up to take the gay pill if homomarriage is legalized.

>>129994778
>just about the same
Is not the same.

>>129994680
Your argument is not clearly stated. I have no idea what you're even trying to say.

>>129993725
The actual percentage of gays will be higher than that. Like 7-8%.

>>129995035
>Your argument is not clearly stated. I have no idea what you're even trying to say.

Why do you pay less taxes when you're married?

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>>129991293
B-but I want to marry my qt bf.
We love eachother so much, is it so bad that we get married?

>>129993388
Nice digits

>>129991816

oh no, frowny face ginger whore found somebody to judge.

>>129991684
Why do you NEED the right to own firearms?

>>129992238
because conservative gays want to adopt and live basically conservative lives.

>>129995300
because I'm not a faggot

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>>129995100

>>129991293
>being a sodomite

Hell is for ever!

>>129992720
and that has been debunked. "plenty of accounts" is about as credible as CNN at this point.

gay men have brain changes that make them less likely to hurt children. there are tons of studies on this.

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>>129995349
>conservative gays
>gay
>conservative life

>>129995408

being gay is a built in evolutionary adaptation. it allows clan units to save orphaned children and to increase the productivity of the clan.

go gas yourself.

>>129991293
yes

sodomy is a sin, sodomites don't love they lust

stop sinning

>>129995300
The right to own firearms is not a positive right. In order for it to be upheld, nobody has to lift a finger. The "right" to receive government benefits and privileges as a married couple, homosexual or otherwise, requires the government to create these benefits and privileges, and others to pay for the government to do so.

>>129995494
>increase the productivity of the clan.

by fucking around.

No.

>>129995464

Go die. liberal-fag ideology has done nothing but kill off most gays. It spread disease and stupidity.

There are plenty of gays going back to the church and to monogamous relationships.

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>>129991293
M8 I don't oppose it because in my country two transexuals can adopt a child and fuck it all day long. They skipped the wall on the slippery slope that was marriage.

Protestants: "marriage is instituted by God and the gays are trying to take it away from us!" *As they took the sacrament of marriage from the Catholics who took it from the Jews who took it from basically every single religious and non religious civilization before them*

>>129995189
to help you have children that will ensure your country will go on, something these degenerates can't do

>>129995362
If I only had things I strictly need, I wouldn't have many things that I like.
Why are Americans so much for freedom in all aspects of life EXCEPT when it's not about loving whoever you love because Pastor John told them they go to hell if they do it.

You're not going to hell if I marry my boyfriend, I am. So quit your bitching and let me love and marry whoever I want.

>>129994229
this

marriage can't be redefined

>>129995414
No there isn't you retard. Most people that are gay were fucked up by an adult when they were a child.

>>129995545


Sorry, I didn't realize you had shit genes and can't understand math or evolution.

>>129995656

I was never molested you inbred neet.

>>129995414
See
>>129995389

>>129991293

Marriage isn't about love. Marriage is an insurance policy for a woman's children to prevent them going without in case their biological father leaves.

And if two people love each other, why would they need a legal union?

>>129995574
Don't use that flag you degenerate. What's next? Are you going to complain about us wanting to execute drug dealers because some of them go to church? Burn in hell fag.

>>129991293

but I don't oppose it.

>>129992044

So a corporation then?

>>129995873

Go kill yourself. You live in a trailor and have only your sperm to contribute to society.

Society deserves the most efficient social structures, and its clear form evolution that gay people are apart of that.

Go buy some scissors and do the right thing.

>>129995389
Well if you look at the most lgbt tolerant places in the world such as the Netherlands and Brazil the percentage of gay people tends to be around that number. With the world becoming more accepting of homosexuality there has been a steady increase of people identifying themselves as as gay or bisexual as well, especially amongst the millenials and gen z.

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>>129994778
>there's masses of straight white men that are lining up to take the gay pill if homomarriage is legalized

You're not seeing the long-term effects as usual, canacuck. It's not directly tied to increase in homosexuality, but it is a causal effect. Ever since homosexuality became less of a taboo, the amount of homofags increased in 1900's.
>society becomes more accepting of homosexuality so much so that parents have to explain that "some married people are the same sex"
>this normalizes homosexual behavior
>homosexuals feel at ease walking outside hand in hand
>children who grow with the influence of their surroundings will see homosexuality as a choice
>massive increase in youth homosexuality

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>>129995670

>why are people gay
>let's make up a constellation where it might have been useful

I swear, the gay faggots are cheeky cunts

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>>129995955
Get aids and die you but blasted deviant.

What most of you leftist homosexual-worshipping faggots don't understand is that the meaning of marriage has changed, it's not the same it was millennia ago. In ancient times there was no overpopulation problem, rather the issue was underpopulation. Virtually every single civilization, hence, promoted the union between a man and a woman, two people who can BIOLOGICALLY produce offspring together. This was the main reason marriage was invented in the first place. Now times have changed, and so has the meaning of marriage and its socioeconomic implications. Should gays be able to engage in what today is considered "marriage"? As for me, I don't mind. But you must understand that the reason gay marriage never existed until recently is not because people were "bigots" back then: as I said, times were different. As an example, homosexuality was widely practiced and reasonably tolerated among the ancient Greeks and Romans, yet in over one millennium they never legalized something like gay marriage. Marriage between two people who can't have children simply made no sense to them.

>>129992238
>Why do so many libfags care about being apart of something they dont believe in the first place.

Because liberals love to ridicule traditional conservative morality. Liberals are trolling them. Or they want to play pretend, play house. Homosexuals in general are incredibly vain (pride parades) and obsessed with social status. A marriage is a way to show off social status, and be the center of attention.

The fact is that the majority of homosexual men are not monogamous. 43% of gay men have had over 500 partners. 1/4 gay men in America have had over 1,000 sex partners.

As for lesbians, lesbians are twice as likely as straight women to be stalked or physically abused by their partners. And married lesbians are 2-3 times more likely to divorce than straight couples.

>>129996140

Monogamy doesn't cause aids. Don't hold your breath.

>>129996184

Because gay men were targeted by Bolsheviks. Younger gays that have been raised to think of themselves as normal are throwing this crap away and they are returning to traditional values.

>>129995634
If you're marrying your boyfriend, my children will have to look at you degenerates, and I'm not having that, and any healthy society shouldn't.

You need legal benefits to love your gay friend? No. No one tells you who to love, you can love anything you want. But don't come and demand money which is for the couples that contribute to a society by having children. You want the free money without contributing. Fuck off.

>>129992728
>Why can't you all be proper homosexuals like him?

He's not. NPH and his buttbuddy David are both cucks. The children they have, they don't know who is the father of who. And they're raising a woman's child (who sold her child to those two faggots).

>>129996203
See >>129996184 you degenerate freak

>>129996288
But we want to adopt a white child and raise it with 1488 values.

Too many cucks adopt nigger kids, now it's our chance to do our part and adopt a white kid.

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>>129996149
>As an example, homosexuality was widely practiced and reasonably tolerated among the ancient Greeks and Romans

ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT

Plato even demanded the death sentence for sodomites.

Marriage has always been between a man and a woman, united before God.

>>129996288

Your children aren't harmed by men in monogamous relationships. Grow the fuck up and stop teaching your children to be triggered.

Beta.

>>129993408
>We get tits and heteros shoved in our face everyday

Just further proof that homosexual men are all women-hating misogynists who think girls are "icky."

>1Corinthians 6:9-11
9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

That's why homosexuality is wrong. But I see no reason why they shouldn't get married if they want to. It's still sin either way.

>>129996275
>Homosexual relationships
>In any way traditional

>>129996332

Gays in the Left aren't any worse than Straights in the Left. THey are all degenerate.

Conservative gays act differently.

/yawn

we need to start putting the dunce caps back in school so people like you know your place.

>>129995973
>look at these degenerate places, they must surely represent the demographics of every nation!
Amazing.

>>129993906
>it's already a reality, just get over it.

Gay marriage is make believe. In 1,000 years the "union" means nothing, it has no impact at all.

>>129996376

This is so retarded I think you might have to stop talking forever.

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>>129996376
don't mind me here dropping truthbombs

This is the guy that according to gay lobby agitprop was pro-homo. My exit-only ass he was.

A lot of the Greeks were proud fags memes come from two notoriously unscientific works, Dover and most notoriously Samiakis. The last one is a homo himself and his work is liberal propaganda.

Dover was an academic, but his mistakes were based on a mistranslation of έραστής which did not have a sexual meaning but rather an educational one (younger male is guided by older male). Greeks made very clear distinctions between love and lust, both natural lust or unnatural.


The truth is, Dover is the only academic who made such claims through his mistranslations, and Samiakis didn't just copy Dover, but added all sorts of plain lies to it, as a propaganda book. He even claimed that Plato was a homo, or pro-homo while he asked the death-sentence for them. And Salmiakis was later quoted by an American "expert" in ancient Greece who can't even read ancient Greek. Of course the gay lobby loved all this and spread it like wild-fire.

Also I want to add that when I mentioned the work of Dover here the full credit goes to Dover & co-author (((Reinsberg)))

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>>129996556
Oh yes, well I'll drop some Athens law for you, but here have some more Plato first.

>>129992240
>I thought it'd be the end of the world.

I call this "refuting the hyperbole."

That's black and white thinking. There's all kinds of things that have negative impact that aren't "the end of the world."

The fact is, I doubt gay marriage is all that prevalent anyway.

>>129996454

Jesus never once spoke against gay people and the few homosexual sex acts described in the bible happen in the context of temple prostitution.

Go take a logic class you mouth breathing crotch farmer.

I do not oppose it. Let states decide. You cannot force a church to do it either.

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>>129996556
>>129996556

Here we have Aeschines quoting Athens laws protecting boys against pederasty. Note that even mere companionship of males that are not immediate family over 13 years old to the students before sunset or after dawn was enough to be punished with the death sentence no less.

So far for the myth that Greeks allowed pederasty, or that only the receiving part would be punished.

>>129991293
i can make people depressed by focusing all of their time on unimportant things like legalazation of gay marriage. you think they are happy? fuck no, their lifes entire focus is on stupid shit and inted to keep it that way

if they get their way, they cannot get their way because i still keep them focusing on unimportant things, and those are found limitless numbers in the universe

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>>129996372
>Trusting faggots with kids
If you had völkisch values you wouldn't be a homosexual in the first place
>>129996507
Heroin addicts in the Left aren't any worse than straight edge people in the Left. THey are all degenerate.

Conservative heroin addicts act differently.

>>129994321
>Because marriage is a legal institution. It was originally and it still is.

Actually, you're wrong. Marriage existed long before marriage licenses.

>>129995494
For ever!

Hell is for ever!

Hell is for ever!

>>129994422
>They can't have children. Why should they keep the benefits?

This is where infertile and barren people whine and moan and say "So you're saying I can't get married?"

The fact is, if you can't have children, there is no reason to get married, or be monogamous.

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>>129996676
Fuck off heretic, sodomy is considered mortal sin. Love can only be between man and woman. You confuse love with lust. Repent, faggot.

Also, here, here we have Xenophon quoting Socrates on the subject matter.

>>129996521
In America and UK, around 7 percent of millennials identify as LGBT also. It's not rocket science that as society becomes more accepting, the more people will be open about it.

>>129996656

Wow. I didn't realize Plato was the king of greece.

Also... you realize all of Greek history isn't a unity right?

/facepalm

secondly he was only discussing between free men, they had no problem buggering slaves men or women.

platos teacher, socrates had sex with men and women.

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>>129996676
Oh well if Jesus didn't explicitly prohibit it, it must be fine then

>>129996850
Monogamy makes you a happier person so there is totally a reason to be monogamous and marry the person you love.

>>129996752
Sorry but no, I can't stand roasties. They are disgusting and I have zero interest in them.

>>129995349
>conservative gays

Oyxmoron. It's probably why The Advocate disowned Peter Thiel.

>>129996376
Wrong translation pal. http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0166%3Abook%3D8%3Asection%3D836c

>>129996704
Plato described homosexuality as 'utterly unholy' and 'the ugliest of ugly things
>>129996850
Infertile people can adopt and raise healthy children

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>>129991293
This is not a rights issue, they can do whatever they want. It's a personal issue for the homosexuals. It's not disgusting merely because it defies the bible, it's disgustinf because anal sex is filthy, especially if attempted in regularly and spontaneously with no time to make the act as clean as possible. Supporting this behavior is harming the individual more than opposing it does. Pic related is inly one of many examples of the regular bedroom accidents gays have and you'd be appaed to discover how many of them brush this kind of thing aside just to continue with their brave progressive march. It's a cancer.

t. ex-homosexual

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>>129996676
And here we have the coup de grâce, Aeschinus citing Athens legislation on homosexuality in general.

Note the law not only deprives the offender (whether giving or receiving) of all his civic rights, but also reduces him to nothing, from a social and political point of view, and, in some cases, leads him to the executioner.

This is revealing of the contempt Athenians showed to such deeds, of the fact that they wanted, by all means, to send lewd persons away. They didn't harm someone who declared such a preference, but they denied him the possibility to be a part of the city's life. He was no longer treated as an Athenian citizen , but as an alien resident in the city of Athens (μέτοιχος)

And since I'm in the mood and always willing to defend the birth-cradle of European civilisation, I'm going to dig up Spartan law as well.

>>129996823

And it is filled with false teacher and idiots like you that can't understand what is actually being said.

>>129996454
>Homosexuality is wrong because God said so.
That isn't a justification. Where does God explain WHY homosexuality is immoral?

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>>129996752

Heroin addiction =/= evolutionary defined gender roles

go fucking try again dunce.

>>129995414
>there are tons of studies on this.

Cite one.

Oh, and if a gay man is attracted to males, it doesn't help that prepubescent boys and girls both tend to have boyish bodies.

>>129996971
>implying wrong translations are an argument

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>>129996914
Want me to drop some more facts on you?

Here we have more Xenophon, and it shows that one engaged in unnatural lusts, and as the giving party, wasn't even considered worthy of the name Greek anymore. If you did this you were considered a barbarian, doesn't matter if you were born and bred a free Greek before.

A barbarian. And with that all the contempt they had for barbarians. Subhumans.

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>>129996956
>Implying you can love the white people and hate the gender that brings them into the world
>>>/r9k/

GO AWAY FAGGOT

>>129996886
7 full percent!

Good thing society finally has understood it needs to be whipped into shape by the 7%.

>>129995494
>being gay is a built in evolutionary adaptation. it allows clan units to save orphaned children and to increase the productivity of the clan.

It isn't, because nobody is born gay. Sexuality is imitative. If you're arguing that gays are larger providers to children than straights, you're wrong. Gays tend to lead vapid shallow selfish hedonistic lives.

>>129996886
>as society becomes more accepting
Yes goys, homosexuality is good and every white person should be on the lbgtqwiop spectrum. Also, open borders for refugees, and more programs and reparations for your oppressed minorities!

>>129997051
A degenerate is a degenerate

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>>129997137

>>129997155
No.

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>>129996962
lolno, why do you think I include the original every time? fuck off m8 look here have some more Athens law.

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>>129997203

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>lolbertarians always being pozzed as fuck.

Nothing changes.

>>129992044
>inheritances

kek, are you really this dumb?

>>129996972
It's Hell. It's for ever.

Hell is for ever!

>>129997235
Because you wrongly assume people here don't know ancient Greek, you dumb fuckshit.

>>129995609

Marriage exists to care for genetic children. Gays cannot produce genetic offspring with each other. And if gays want children, it involves them taking those children from other heterosexual people.

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>>129997241

>>129996963

What is your fucking point?

Do you think they understood evolution, or neurology?

Either way Socrates makes multiple references to being attracted to men.

He was repressed like you.

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>>129997106
Do you even know Greek you dumbass? The original is right there in front of you, next to the translation. Filthy sodomite. Show me exactly where is the wrong translation, professor.

>>129991816
straight people do both of those things too. DO you have another reason?

>>129997311
Surrogate moms exist.

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>>129997256
says the nazi

>>129997256
The free market WILL fix it. Homosexuals and other degenerates wouldn't last very long in a free society with no government to prop them up.

>>129996971

Why does ancient greece determine what we do today?

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Because if I can't be happy then nobody should be.

>>129995634
>loving whoever you love

Love isn't some metaphysical reality. Love is a chemical that exists to bond parents to their children, to ensure the survival of children. Gays cannot make children with each other. And if gays want children, it would involve gays stealing children from straight people.

It's not even about hell. In 1,000 years, you playing "house" with your boyfriend will have no impact on humanity (except maybe the spread of diseases).

>>129997311

gays just want to larp as heterosexual couple. Should the government subsidize this and the answer is no.

>>129997108

And Socrates repeatedly refers to men that caught his eye and that he was attracted to... what is your point? They were were repressed and so are you.

do you think quoting philosophers from an age before science matters to me?

you only got these from a seminar class at aquinas anyway.

>>129997168
It's a significant portion of the population is all I'm saying.

>>129997195

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Love can only exist between a man and a woman and the fruits that they produce through the miracle of reproduction.

Between gay couples there is only LUST.

Pure evil

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>>129997293
lol try me faggot

here have some more (((mistranslations))), Κιναιδος

>>129995770
Single mom then?

Hate women then?

>>129997155

No. I've already contributed more to white people than you ever will. My genes are superior, as is my brain.

You would be honored to kiss my feet.

Go strike your testicles with flint.

>>129997451
Artifcial insemination and surrogate moms exist. And adopting children isn't exactly "stealing" either.
You're just really upset that someone would want to love a person of their same gender and raise kids with them.

>>129997504
go away christcuck. go masturbate to jesus, you know you like it.

>>129997178

Its defined by the sexually dimorphic nucleus in the brain.

Work in a brain lab and increase the supply of human knowledge before you spout off baseless assumptions and leftist developmental ideology.

>>129997474
Socrates you say, See >>129997334 on exactly what Socrates thought about Κιναιδει

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11501300

>In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than did heterosexual men and women.
>Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation.
>Twenty-two percent of lesbian women in contrast to 1% of heterosexual women reported homosexual molestation.
>This research is apparently the first survey that has reported substantial homosexual molestation of girls. Suggestions for future research were offered.


But wait, there is more!
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3358676

>About a third of all child sex abuse cases involve men molesting boys--and in this study, 86% of such men identified themselves as homosexual or bisexual.

Men become gay when they are molested as kids, and they further their kind by molesting kids as well.

They need to be all fucking gassed.

>>129997343
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/cdc-gay-men-2-population-67-all-new-hiv-cases

>>129997328
>Either way Socrates makes multiple references to being attracted to men.

no, not at all. either proof you claims or fuck off, shill

I proved the contrary of your statement here : >>129997334

>>129997494
this love/lust dichotomy is totally artificial. I feel comfortable as who i make myself to be, and my interactions with different people contributes to it in a way that cannot be defined in objective terms

>>129992044
you shouldn't get benefits if you cannot have childrens

>>129997626

"[Charmides] gave me such a look that I was helpless…and all those in the palaestra gathered around us in a circle, then indeed, my good man, I saw inside his [Charmides’] cloak and I was on fire and no longer in control of myself.
"

You are all repressed betas.

>>129995955
>Society deserves the most efficient social structures, and its clear form evolution that gay people are apart of that.

What the hell are you talking about?

First off, homosexuality is an act, a behavior, a choice to engage in behavior.

Homosexuality is not how mammals reproduce. Sexual reproduction has existed for maybe 1.2 billion years, and all of your ancestors during that time reproduced heterosexually. Homosexuality also led to the HIV/AIDS crisis, millions have died from AIDS, and blood infected with HIV has even tainted donated blood supplies and has led to straight people dying from AIDs. Men-who-have-sex-with-men are the demographic most likely to have HIV. Gay men are 60x more likely to have HIV than straight men. 43% of gay men have over 500 partners. 1/4 gay men in the US have had over 1000 sex partners. Gay men are 10x more likely to use heroin than straight men. Between 24% to 90% of lesbians report being psychologically abused by their partners. Lesbians are 2.5x more likely than straight women to be obese. Lesbians are twice as likely as straight women to be stalked or physically abused by their partners. Married lesbians are 2-3 times more likely to divorce than straight couples.

Please tell me how that's an "efficient social structure."

The fact is that gays are merely efficient vehicles for viral transmission. Your maintrain is a transport for viruses, not humans.

>>129991293
I don't. You are a massive faggot if you care about what other men do with eachother.

>>129997671
>>129997725
(((statistics)))

>>129997494
>something every organism does to propagate it's own species
>miracle

>>129991293
I don't, faggots can be faggots. Faggots can live together, can sign a civil contract and live happily ever after. I just don't think it should be called marriage.

Gays are gross, I only have sex with my straight friends.

>>129991293
Because the purpose of marriage as a social institution with legal support is to promote the ideal of the family as the base unit of society. It has nothing to do with love or consent.

If you start handing the benefits of marriage out to any random two people who love each other, then the entire point of propping up the institution as a society becomes moot, and it instead just becomes a free tax break for any two dudes who happen to enjoy blowing each other.

GAY PRIDE WORLD WIDE

There should be a legal equivalent of marriage with all the same perks but I think that forcing a priest to marry two people against their conscience is wrong. They do not owe anything to those who want to get married, neither did the bakers and they got fucked. Society is fucked

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>>129991293
5 gay men went to hang out

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>>129997822

>>129996149
>Marriage between two people who can't have children simply made no sense to them.

Which is just as true today. The meaning of marriage hasn't changed, merely leftists insisting the meaning of "marriage" has changed (like leftists insist the meaning of "gender" has changed). They live in a land of make believe. And their problems now have no bearing on human problems in 1,000 years, 10,000 years or more.

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>>129997567
Truth hurts, doesn't it, filthy one?

Even your lauded Greeks despised faggots, took away their citizenship.

Look again at Athens law, even slaves were legally protected against homosexuals.

>>129997856
why should gay people get the same perks as normal people ? they cannot have children

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>>129991293

I don't, here is a pic from a gay wedding I attended. It was fabulous.

>>129997781
Why won't you admit you were molested as a kid? Why won't you kill yourself to prevent this abomination from perpetuating itself?

You have no idea how bad I want you all dead.

>>129996275

You can't be gay and have traditional values, it's a contradiction.

Every single one of their ancestors going back 1.2 billion years engaged in heterosexual sex. That is traditional. Being gay is a new, untested, social experiment.

There is no reason for two people who can't have kids to be monogamous. Which is why only about 4% of gay men are monogamous. Which is why men-who-have-sex-with-men are the demographic most likely to have HIV. And why gay men are 60x more likely to have HIV than straight men.

>mfw faggots still use mistranslations as an argument despite having been caught

>>129998119
>Being gay is a new, untested, social experiment.
Are you actually retarded? Homosexuality has been a thing since we've been a thing mate.

>>129991293
Because they want rights such as adoption

>>129991293

Why do you want to force churches to marry them?

>be gay
>control the global population crisis

You should encourage or atleast tolerate homosexuality to ensure a sustainable future

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>>129997396
Now suddenly you change your tune?

Aren't the ancient Greeks our shining examples anymore? Or is that only when you thought it was a paradise for faggots?

>>129991379
this

>>129991910
Fucking A

>>129996372

You mean steal a white kid. And people who adopt are the literal meaning of cuckolds, raising a child that isn't theirs.

If you didn't make the child, what gives you the right to steal the child?

>>129997991

Ever heard of the Sacred band of Thebes?

Greek history is not a Unity.

Finish your classes at Aquinas and then go to a real school.

AIDS, the african disease spread into the United Satetes by Gay men

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/america-hiv-outbreak-origins-nyc-gaetan-dugas/

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>>129998265
Based deus vult, never seen the faggots get btfo so hard in a thread.

>>129998265

And if there were only some way of contriving that a state or an army should be made up of lovers and their beloved, they would be the very best governors of their own city, abstaining from all dishonour, and emulating one another in honour; and when fighting at each other's side, although a mere handful, they would overcome the world. For what lover would not choose rather to be seen by all mankind than by his beloved, either when abandoning his post or throwing away his arms? He would be ready to die a thousand deaths rather than endure this. Or who would desert his beloved or fail him in the hour of danger?

“”
—Plato, Symposium[1]


It was called the band of thebes.

Seriously. Finish your classes.

>>129997370
have you already seroconverted pham

>>129995195
you dont "love" you dont even know what that is. What you are experiencing is just being very horny

>>129997811
>Because the purpose of marriage as a social institution with legal support is to promote the ideal of the family as the base unit of society
Says you. Traditional family is old and busted.

>>129997856
>but I think that forcing a priest to marry two people against their conscience is wrong
nobody did that ever, expect when the church was owned by the state.

>neither did the bakers and they got fucked
I don't get why would you refuse to sell a fucking cake desu.

>>129997991
Who cares about your revisionist version of history you little shit? What matters it that, for example, great emperors like Nero were gay and used execute semitic worshipping scum like yourself. That makes me very happy.

>>129998093
You sound like you were molested, now you want to get revenge against all gays (of course you're too ignorant to realize not every guy who rapes a boy can be considered gay, but I already see you're too limited to understand that).

>>129998384

>According to Plutarch, the 300 hand-picked men were chosen by Gorgidas purely for ability and merit, regardless of social class.[17] It was composed of 150 male couples,[15] each pair consisting of an older erastês (ἐραστής, "lover") and a younger erômenos (ἐρώμενος, "beloved").[18] Athenaeus of Naucratis also records the Sacred Band as being composed of "lovers and their favorites, thus indicating the dignity of the god Eros in that they embrace a glorious death in preference to a dishonorable and reprehensible life";[9] while Polyaenus describes the Sacred Band as being composed of men "devoted to each other by mutual obligations of love".[7] The origin of the "sacred" appellation of the Sacred Band is unexplained by Dinarchus and other historians. But Plutarch claims that it was due to an exchange of sacred vows between lover and beloved at the shrine of Iolaus (one of the lovers of Hercules) at Thebes. He also tangentially mentions Plato's characterization of the lover as a "friend inspired of God".[17][18]

>>129997491
don't get me wrong it's good when individual needs are met better. What I don't like is when LGBT is used as a way to demoralize everyone else

>>129998384

simple minds are easily amused.

>>129992044
>tax purposes
stealing
>name changes
different legal process. single people can change their name as well.
>inheritances
Why would my family not leave me stuff if I stayed single?
>job benefits
discrimination
>insurance beneficiaries
My sister is my beneficiary for my life insurance.

In sum: Marriage is stupid and overrated. It also shouldn't be something the government regulates in any way shape or form. If you're in love and want to be married, go to your church, do the stupid ritual, and then tell everyone your married. Or skip the ritual altogether and just decide you're married.

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>>129998434
Someone who engaged in unnatural lusts, a Κιναιδος, could not represent his city, in no case and in no way. Contrary to the (((generally accepted opinion))) of recent years.

In exactly the same fashion, people nowadays also generally assure anybody who wants to hear, that Homer describes Achilles and Patrocles as a notorious homosexual couple, although they have never read a single Homeric rhapsody.

Unfortunately, this happens also on many sites in the internet, where Achilles is celebrated as the first known homosexual hero. Although Iliad is but the epic relating the grieves Greeks suffered from Achilles' wrath, because Agamemnon took his concubine, Vreseis, away from him.

Pic related we have Plato speaking about the love between men, where he clearly defines it as a sort of love that is entirely free of lust, termed by him as "the celestial Aphrodite", in contrast to "the vulgar Aphrodite".

>>129996402
>Your children aren't harmed by men in monogamous relationships.

Could that be because only about 4% of men with men are in monogamous relationships? You're talking about what's rare, we're talking about what's common. The vast majority of homosexuals are not in monogamous relationships. And why should they be? At no time when they have sex can it lead to children. However, it can lead to the spread of diseases if they have ever had any previous sex partners. And straight people have died from AIDS they got from blood transusions after HIV infected men recklessly donated blood. And monogamy is about ensuring that a child, who gestates for 9 months, and takes about 13 years to reach sexual maturity, and 18 years to reach legal adulthood, will survive long enough to reproduce. There is no reason for gay men to be monogamous, because they're in it for sex, not children. So about 96% of them are not monogamous. Which is why there are so many diseases in the homosexual "community."

And if gays were monogamous, there would be no need to identify with a larger LGBT "community."

>>129998573
>Traditional family is old and busted.

And the plummeting native population seems to confirm this.

>>129996507
>Conservative gays act differently.

There's no such thing. That's like saying "dry rain."

>>129998715

Gay culture is going through a massive shift. the numbers have changed and are changing more.

>>129998191
Yeah but not the homo acceptance of today. That's pretty unique and new.

>>129991293
Marriage was created by men for men with the intention of raising children with a suitable mate and in short gays dont qualify as men, men commit and make sacrifices everyday for their dependants (see wife and children) faggots just party and have sex. I personally know 10 gay men and 3 gay women 4 being related to me. I have yet to even observe one that has those required traits.

>>129998573
>You sound like you were molested
>I don't have any argument left
>attack ad hominem
Stay mad, faggot.

>>129998599
>>129998637
>If I put a nazi flag up they'll think I'm based even if I'm a fag!
Kill yourself you subhuman piece of shit. Heating up the oven now.

>>129998715

This is false. Humans have psychology adapted to evolution over close to a hundred thousand years.
"
Homosexual animals pair exclusively in many other species, and the same evolutionary drives are present in humans.

>>129998573
>Says you. Traditional family is old and busted.
It's worked just fine for millenia. What suddenly changed in the last few decades that it's no longer a stable basis for society?

>>129998228

because pushing churches around is fun

>>129998941

You're a french piece of shit. You'll get used to sucking Nazi dick again.

>>129998953

Gay people being married actually goes back to the oldest written philosophical discussions in ancient India.

>>129998315
The fact that the parents gave it up for adoption and literally abandoned it?

Are you perhaps a bit mentally retarded?

>>129998599
έραστής does not have a sexual meaning but rather an educational one (younger male is guided by older male). Greeks made very clear distinctions between love and lust, both natural lust or unnatural.

Hence also why Athens laws asked the *death sentence* for males over 13 years old who were not blood relations that merely accompagnied students before sunrise or after sunset.
Again, see >>129996704 pic related

I don't oppose them

It's none of my business what other people do

Only closeted faggots care so much about this

>>129998946
not every animal is fit, it's part of nature

>>129996886
>In America and UK, around 7 percent of millennials identify as LGBT also. It's not rocket science that as society becomes more accepting, the more people will be open about it.

That sounds more like a social contagion, rather than people independently realizing they're gay in a vacuum.

Especially in this day and age, when "coming out" will typically result in lavished praise, popularity, misattributed "bravery", and a whole LGBT mafia online ready to silence any critic of someone as being "homophobic" without actually addressing the content of an argument or criticisms.

>>129999128

You realize Athens and its legal system were in competition with many other city states right?

And that even then their legal structure changed repeatedly...

>>129999080
And did they get a tax break for being married? Was it subsidized by their society?

>>129991293
>don't have kids
>need state to provide for them when old

They can eat a dick, figuratively.

>>129996914
>platos teacher, socrates had sex with men and women.

Are you a great grandchild of Socrates?

because the purpose of that union is to raise a family, stable families are a benefit for society so the govt encourages that by cutting taxes on people that do that, faggots do it to avoid taxes and for pissing people off

>>129999158
you are a useful idiot

you have never considered why benefits for marriage exist and are willing to hand them over to two able bodies men, because, eh, I'm not one of those closeted homosexuals

>>129999158
t. proud reddior


>>129999080
>Gay people being married actually goes back to the oldest written philosophical discussions in ancient India.
>ancient India
POO

>>129991293
>Contract between two consenting adults

I support it. The state should GTFO of private relationships and telling people who can and can't visit them in the hospital.

>>129999271
What harm does it do to me when some people elsewhere in the country marry?

None.
Therefore, why the fuck should I care?

Statists are retards.

Fags getting demolished ITT

>>129999218

It seems to have depended on what form they entered into. Ancient India honored several different forms of marriage depending on how long you wanted it to last after you died. They allowed gays to have the super permanent kind I believe. Though there were apparently some lesser types that were recognized. Gay people were considered good luck to have at weddings and births, they were used frequently as priests, and masseurs, as barbers, and artists. Many of the descriptions seem strikingly modern.

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Serious question for gays, do you get turned on by this? Do you feel anything?

>>129999332
>complains about ad hominem
>does it himself when he has no argument

>>129996956
>Monogamy makes you a happier person so there is totally a reason to be monogamous and marry the person you love.

Then why are only 4% of homosexual men monogamous? It would seem they think that hedonism makes them happier.

Monogamy does not come natural to most people (especially women). That's why marriage exists, to socially condition people to be monogamous, faithful, loyal, have fidelity, in order that a child has enough resources to survive long enough to reproduce. In communities with low monogamy, like any black community in America, children are more likely to grow up poor because single moms are more likely to live in poverty.

And if monogamy made people happier, why does divorce exist?

What is best for society and for children (monogamy) does not necessarily make people happier. That's the problem with modern marriage. They think marriage should be about love and happiness. But it's about the next generation.

>>129999408

they get benefits in society such as tax exemptions that are usually reserved for a man and a woman see >>129992044

>>129991379
YES.and identity politcs which is divisive politics.

>>129996963
>Infertile people can adopt and raise healthy children

You mean steal other people's children, and become cucks to them, raising DNA that isn't theirs.

Do most gay married couples adopt? Because they the opposite sex so much they can't stand them?

>>129999436
So, it was just a ritual that did not offer them any kind of tangible benefits that were costly to their society, then?

No vagina.

>>129999439
I'm hetero and i don't feel anything

>>129999510
>that are only reserved for man and woman
Who
Cares

Plus, the less tax people pay in general the better.
I just don't see what you're arguing for.

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>>129999439
ЛЯГУШКA

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>>129999474
You contributed absolutely nothing to the thread, you just said you didn't give a fuck.
Here, have my upvote and get the fuck out now.

>>129996967
>t. ex-homosexual

Don't let the LGBT mafia know. They'll burn you at the stake.

>>129991293
Simple. It's sick and incompatible. Even biology proves this.

>>129994778

The more society at large is told that homosexuality is not only acceptable, but glamorous, exotic and cool, the more faggots there will be. In a society where the heterosexual nuclear family is championed and the negatives of homosexuality are made clear more potential homos will try their best to keep their degeneracy in check and stay on the right path.

>>129999604


You can't imply that from what I wrote, and its also incorrect. You're trying too hard.

>>129999639

Yeah you are in favor of gays not paying as much in taxes but you will pay your tax in full, or are you a gay anon

>>129991293
you bring shame to our flag

>>129999689
>contributed nothing
Nice opinion faggot
Kill yourself, closeted homo

>>129999732
I'm genuinely asking.

>>129991293
>legal union

they already have that, its called civil union you baiting faggot

>>129991293
I don't.

>>129999740
Or I'm straight and plan on marrying?

>>129991293
I don't.
If they're of the age of consent and want to stick their dicks in each other then it's not the responsibility of me or the state to tell them they should be sticking their dicks anywhere else.

>>129992246
Uhhh. You are one AIDS infected pedo. You should KYS.

IGNORE SODOMITE ORDERS

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>>129998573
>Who cares about your revisionist version of history you little shit? What matters it that, for example, great emperors like Nero were gay and used execute semitic worshipping scum like yourself. That makes me very happy.

YOU are the revisionist. I provide proof with all my claims. With the original text in Greek included.

Also Caligula and Nero were emperors, and considered divine. That is exactly why Christians were persecuted in Rome but JEws weren't, because Christians didn't accept the divinity of the caesar. Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi. What Jupiter can do, doesn't mean it is also allowed for the ox. Also Caligula and Nero were insane, what they practiced was despised by the general population.

For example, Tacitus who wants to reassure the Romans to go back to their old ways, compared to Germanic law why he lauds their monogamy and capital punishment for shameful acts, stating by this "look even the barbarians nowadays lead better lives than us".

Pic related, Germanics used to tie sodomites to a wooden wicker-like construction and throw them in bogs, to literally bury their shame. The fact that Tacitus cites this says enough about what Romans thought about it.

Also: you will not remain young, you'll grow old and ugly, will be very unhappy, never know love, and degenerate further into a pitiable mess. You are constructing your own prison. If you do not follow the right hand path as God intended, you will perish miserably.

>>129991293
Gas the faggots

>>129996971


Also that word is being intentionally mistranslated. The issue was homosexual prostitution, not gay sex.

Birds are VERY important

Because they act like sucking dicks is a political stance and now go against everything that defines who I am.

They don't just suck dick, they oppose family, they oppose nature, they oppose my freedoms for their "right" to shove their shit into my face, they're destroying all the values and concepts that bind our society, threatening it.

People have been sucking dicks for centuries and it's never been a problem. The problem isn't quite fags, it's everything we that comes with it.

>>129999843
I mean you could argue that "they have it so bad in life" that it equals out. As a fact of matter, gay men are appropriating something here that was never meant to be for them. But of course the gay agenda is too arrogant to ever admit this.

>>129997108

You are completely twisting those translations

The issue was gay prostitution not sex.

Where did you get this shit? You can't have hacked this up this badly without help...

>>129997328
>Either way Socrates makes multiple references to being attracted to men.

Gays love to say attraction is not a choice.

But acting on an attraction is a choice.

>>129999911
Agreed.

>>129999639
>Who
>Cares
Tax benefits and such are incentives for couples to have kids, knowing that it's sometimes not economically feasible to do so.

Faggots don't reproduce and just want the same benefits for jerking each other off.

>>129999998
That would have been a great get.

Also >>129999999 >>130000000

>>129991293
they can't biologically produce children. Their union is useless to the state and is used by enemies of the state to make said state weaker.

>>129991379
Exactly

>disregard this post
>>130000000

>>129997352

Surrogate moms are baby sellers. The DNA of the baby in her womb may not be hers, but you can be sure that her womb and blood and immune system and epigenetics can affect the baby. Like the fact that having a fever during pregnancy increases the risk of autism by 34%.

And until "male eggs" are genetically engineered, two male humans cannot produce genetic offspring. So it usually involves taking an egg from a woman, taking a child from a woman (who probably sold it off), and raising it as their "own", which it isn't, and becoming cuckolds.

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>>129991293
Maybe you should learn the difference between union and marriage, because legal union was allowed and still is allowed.

>>130000077
>never meant for them
Because gays are ebil or they can't have kids? Why does that exempt them from marrying and having the benefits that other married couples have?

>>129992162
Agreed.It is the media pushing homosexuality that is the only problem

>>129999805

The Vedic conception of society was to find a useful place for everyone. They had many places for gays and they describe the unique attributes they felt each contributed in those specific roles.

Some were ritual, but many were just common tasks that gay people are stereotypical associated with today.

http://www.galva108.org/

Has tons of ancient writings and translations on this.

Basically hindu society viewed people like pieces of the human body, each person had a specific place and function and the point of the religious writings were to organize and give meaning to that.

>>129999172
It's still much easier to identify as straight. I very much doubt there are many coming out solely for social status. The reasoning for the increase is because of dying social stigma against it.

>>129998881
That's true.

>>130000131
So what?
Why do I care about other people paying less taxes? How does it harm ME?

In fact, less taxes is exactly what I want so.

>>130000113

Nobody said it wasn't. Marriage is the appropriate choice,

>>130000393
For the same reason a high earning person is not allowed to register at the Job Centre.

>>130000491
Not an argument.
Present something real instead of metaphoring it out

>>129997535

They're not your kids. That's the fucking point.

If a lesbian gets artificial insemination, that's another man's child she's taking from him. If a surrogate mother gestates DNA from a gay man and another woman, to sell the baby to the man, she's taking from the other woman.

And yes, adoption is stealing a child from another person. Raising another person's child makes you a cuck.

You don't need marriage to love someone. And children raised by gay parents are more likely to be gay, which blows the fuck out of the whole "born that way" argument, because sexuality is imitative.

Gays seem to be upset by the opposite sex, consumed with an irrational hatred of the opposite sex. They may want kids, but are too disgusted to actually make them.

>>129991293
Its is against nature + who fucks where they shit ?

>>130000397
yep, you can't stop ppl from being gay. But stop forcing it for kids to see and shit, fucking Hollywood kikes

>>129998265

He was accused of being a prostitute and therefore unfit to be a politician.

You have intentionally mistranslated Greek words on several occasions and then conflated your mistranslations to the whole of Greek history.

You occasionally do the (()) because you know you aren't even giving a mainstream translation.

>>130000408
But I'm not asking whether or not gays had a place in society, I'm asking if their marriage was in any way subsidized by their society. I don't think we should execute gays, I just don't think we should give them the tangible benefits of marriage when they are biologically incapable of forming a family, the historically stable base unit of society that legally-backed marriage is intended to promote.
So, did married gays receive any tangible benefits that came a price to the host society or not? That's central to the argument.

>>129997612
>Its defined by the sexually dimorphic nucleus in the brain.

Oh? What gene determines that?

So your argument is that homosexuals are mutants? What SNP on what chromsome determines homosexuality you fucking idiot?

And if they are abnormal mutants, like you seem to be arguing, why the fuck should everyone else bend over to cater to their genetic defects?

>>130000552
Two able bodied men do not deserve to get tax benefits. Prove me wrong.

>>130000592
Hahaha
>So this child you and your partner raised from birth/for years is actually not your child because it had to, like all children, come out of a pussy

You are retarded

>>130000745

You are a fuckwit aren't you.;

do you even undrstand how the body develops?

The development of masculine and female tissues occurs because of hormonal balances in the body. If the ratio of testoosterone and estrogen are off, then some tissues develop other ways.

The sexually dimorphic nucleus develops in a short window while in the womb. The mothers body can produce hormonal fluctuations that intentionally shift the development during this stage.

>>130000745

"my" argument.

Its called neurobiology you fucking retard. This has been studied in aalmost all mammals and humans.

They can engineer gay mice and chimps in the lab.

>>129997705
>this love/lust dichotomy is totally artificial.

No it isn't. Lust typically involves dopamine, the reward/pleasure/addiction neurotransmitter. Love typically involves loyalty, and oxytocin, the bonding hormone.

The longer people are in a relationship, the lower that initial exciting rush of dopamine (lust), and then they mistake that for love, and say they've "fallen out of love with someone."

>>129997781
Do facts interfere with your ignorant feelings?

>>130000800
After women got equal rights in everything, they stopped being women and became 100% equal to men in terms of taxation and the workplace. Maternity leave and such makes up for pregnancy, also eliminating that issue.
However, they and their partners still retain married persons tax allowance while gay couples do not.
That is my argument, I hope you can make one of yours

>>130000456
>Why do I care about other people paying less taxes?
The point of said tax breaks is to keep a population growing, why the fuck do you think it was instated as such in the first place? Once you remove having kids out of the picture, all the reasons for said benefits become arbitrary.

If you don't support more white people having kids then you're probably a shitskin faggot.

>>130001066

you mean like the ability of scientists to manipulate the brain physiology of mammals during development and make them permanently gay?

Allah said (interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?

Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins)’”

[al-A’raaf 7:80-81]

>>129998069
>It was fabulous.

And it will mean fuck-all in 300,000 years.

>>130001148

Muslims are inbred. Nobody cares what you think.

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>>130000867
Is it you who writes these comics?

>>130001113
>we can't let this 1% of the population be equal to the 99% in rights cause they cant shit out kids

>>130001236

What gene makes you male or female?

>>129998191

Oh really? So which fossils in the last 10 million years of human ancestors were of homosexuals? Oh, that's right, if they were exclusive homosexuals (a new untested social experiment) then they weren't your ancestors, they had no descendents, they were genetic dead ends.

You can argue homosexual behavior exists, but behavior is imitative, and spreads from person to person. And exclusive homosexuality is biological suicide.

The benefits of a legal union are there to aid starting a family
Gays van only adopt.

>>129998238
>>control the global population crisis

Oh please. Gays may have less children, but it's not like they're devoted to living sustainable lives what with all the wasteful travel they engage in.

Gays just want to live like aristocrats of old, and show it off on social media.

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>>129991293
Because it lead to them wanting to adopt of gain parentimg rights in some other way which causes them to raise the child in a more homosexual environment. Virtue Signallers don't see this is a problem but if the gay pride events are anything indication of public sexual promiscuity, or lack thereof, then imagine how blatantly sexual the faggots are going to be in front of "their" child behind closed doors. Just think about that and then look at how Canada is forcing faggotry and transsexualism on their straight child populace under the guise of "progressive gay parenting".
https://youtu.be/r7T6qU16fT4
That child is 8 years old and look at how over sexualised his "parents" have allowed him to become and so publicly. That isn't normal. There has to be something entirely dubious behind such allowance by that boys "consenting parents" to want to teach "their child" that it's perfectly OK to be overtly sexualised at such a young age.
Homosexuality breeds pedophilia.
Don't want to believe me? Look at pic related and then tell me there's nothing nefarious behind the liberals pushing for more and more degeneracy on conservative populations.

Some extra reading.
http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/04/14899/

>>129999898
>That is exactly why Christians were persecuted in Rome but JEws weren't, because Christians didn't accept the divinity of the caesar.
This just shows how dumb and uninformed you are. Jews also didn't take part in the Imperial cult.

>Also Caligula and Nero were insane, what they practiced was despised by the general population.
He was pretty popular in many parts of the empire. As for the "insane" part, that's just your particular judgment, but I don't think a believer in christianity can talk much about others being crazy.

>Pic related, Germanics used to tie sodomites to a wooden wicker-like construction and throw them in bogs, to literally bury their shame
And they also used to invade monasteries and kill priests, can't say I disagree much with that part.

>Also: you will not remain young, you'll grow old and ugly, will be very unhappy, never know love, and degenerate further into a pitiable mess. You are constructing your own prison. If you do not follow the right hand path as God intended, you will perish miserably.
It's funny, because all the christcucks on the chans seem like sad sacks of shit, complaining about society nonstop. It's really sad desu. As for me, I'm really satisfied with my life right now :)

>>130001406

Wrong dipshit. IN clan units gay people raise their siblings offspring. Giving resources to your siblings kids is the same as giving resources to your own kids children. So in a clan unit it actually still allows you to promote your own genetics.

~math~

Its a thing.

>>130001261
That's right. Nuclear families formed the backbone of society until kikes and their faggot puppets came along.

"Subsidizing" marriage and children promotes healthy families that raise healthy children, and the cycle continues. This has many benefits to society as a whole. Good people, reduced crime, ext. Do I seriously have to explain this shit to you? When no such structure exists you're basically endorsing a society of self-serving niggers. See how long that lasts you before society starts to fall apart and more dominant cultures take over. Not that I'd expect a faggot libertarian to think about anything in long-term or care about his race.

>>129998573
>Traditional family is old and busted.

Oh really? So in 1,000 years we can expect your descendants to be walking the earth, instead of the people who have traditional nuclear families like those that have existed for maybe the past 300,000 years, and those that produced you you insufferable fag? No? So you're like a fruit fly that exists for 50 days?

>I don't get why would you refuse to sell a fucking cake desu.

It's called having morals, not that homosexuals understand that concept. I don't get why someone wouldn't just go to another fucking fake shop.

>you're too ignorant to realize not every guy who rapes a boy can be considered gay

Your argument is that all those pederastic Catholic were straight? What do you think gay is?

Alright neets. I'm going to bed. Try to go easy on yourselves. Learn to translate better and learn to math some.

>>130001511
His parents are straight fucking retard.

>>130001111
life is not 100% equal or 100% logical and so replacing them interchangeable is flawed

a gay man and a gay man will never be like a man and a woman, the fact that they nurture less children on average (and it's not clear if this is even a good thing) adds to the problem

>>130001811
I hope you die in your sleep faggot :^)

>>129991293
I don't and I don't care.

>>129998843
>Gay culture is going through a massive shift.

Towards monogamy? When they have no reason to be monogamous?

Monogamy evolved in certain species due to r/K selection theory.

Many species have monogamous pairbonds for life. It's related to how often she ovulates, how many offspring each pregnancy can produce, how long gestation is, how long it takes until their offspring reaches sexual maturity, and how long it takes until offspring can fend for themselves.

In r/K selection theory, r-selected species put emphasis on quantity over quality, many children who may not reach adulthood. That makes sense in Africa, so it makes sense why black males abandon their kids so often. They are focused on number of children, not quality of children.

K-selected species put emphasis on quality over quantity. Maybe that makes more sense in regions with winter. Or think of China where they were only allowed 1 child until recently. They have to focus on quality of children.

Since humans spend 9 months in the womb, and about 13 years until they can reproduce, and 18 years until they are considered adults, and maybe even longer until they can fend for themselves, it makes sense for humans to form monogamous pairbonds to raise children. But if a species has a shorter gestation period, if their offpsring become sexually mature faster, if their offspring can fend for themselves faster, there is no reason for an animal to be monogamous.

And since gays cannot reproduce with each other, there is no reason for gays to be monogamous, except "feelings" (which are arguably remnants of millions of years of heterosexual reproduction). So homosexuals pose significant risks when it comes to the spread of diseases, due to their typically higher number of sexual partners.