The Holocaust happened.

>>129965631
It did. Over 100,000 people died.

>>129965835
Way more died. Post proof that only 100,000 died. Oh wait, never mind it was millions

>>129965631
and those are Jewish people?
Look like Polocks to me.

Oh. This thread again. Demanding proof while providing none and saying you are correct is kikery 101.

>>129965985
He said people not jews. Learn to read.

>>129965631
Don't be stupid.

It did, but no one here wants to submit to reality do they?

>>129965631
Showing people starving during wartime proves nothing you kike faggot. Blame the allies who bombed railroads carrying food for Germans as well as prisoners of war.

>>129966907
You show me proof and I might believe you.

>>129965631
Are you retarded?

>>129966907
You are the one who is blind. How have you not been red pilled yet?

>>129965631
Thank God

>>129967108
Umm, no?
The burden of proof is on you sir, seeing as you disbelieve the widely accepted narrative?
I bet you can't prove your 'theory' without memes.

>>129967719
Because I haven't seen anything concrete to change my opinion. To be honest, I never really thought twice about the holocaust until I saw its a shit storm topic on here.
Bro, educate me. I'm open to it. Give me the pill. No memes.

>>129965631
Apparently didn't do enough, they're still around doing the same shit as ever.

>>129968139
>6 million
>Germans failing to exterminate the jews

>>129967108
The testimony of survivors, perpetrators, and the the physical existence of mass ovens at camps like dachau. The existence of camps that held tens of thousand but only had adequate plumbing for hundreds. The transportation records that show millions sent to those camps. The war crime trials should be enough, anon.

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>>129965631
Nah

>>129965631
why are there only like 3 kikes in that pic

u sure this isnt a holomodor pic?
where they actually starved to death instead of the supposed gassing

>>129965631
Why would they be posing and smiling if it were real?

oh man.... just recalled.......didnt the same people who came up with all the so called holocaust evidence via torturing nazis actually perpetrate the holomodor....wtf........

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>>129968345

>>129966578

Since when could we select our nationalities?

>>129965631
I wish it did

WTF..... i just found this thing where the LITERAL KIKES who perpetrated the holomodor and also THE LITERAL KIKES WHO ACTUALLY DEFINITELY did mass executions actually blamed it on germany at the nuremburg trial!!
what the fuck !!!!! this is so confusing!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre

>>129965631
It did....

....and that's a good thing.

>>129968139
having watched over a dozen david irving/david cole youtube vids, I can say conclusively that it did happen but the figures are exaggerated substantially/no gas chambers @ auschwitz and the like
blowing it out of proportion was probably a group survival tactic and isn't necessarily evidence that jews are conspiring to take over the world . Some dirty jews might be, but just like some dirty anglos like you and dirty germans and americans might be etc etc. still pretty firmly believe that jews are more successful generally nowadays because of the higher IQ thing.

>>129965631
I don't believe it. The camps were under resourced because the Allies specifically targeted the resources.

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>>129965631
And it was glorious.

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>>129965985
Here is independent proof from the Red Cross stating 170,000 died no gas was used

Do you have any proof it did happen besides hearsay?

The problem with holocaust education is that there is an absurd overfocus on jewish victims. Yes, jews suffered immensely, but the crimes against Russians, Ukrainians, poles and Yugoslavians were just as terrible.

Germany literally planned to starve basically the entire population of Moscow and Leningrad to death rather than capture those cities. Can you even imagine?

HOLY SHIT THE SOVIETS HAD MASS GRAVES ALL OVER THE PLACE
WHAT THE FUCK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_graves_from_Soviet_mass_executions

>>129965631
Is there any proof?

>>129969565
hey son have u got a source for this information about hitler planning on starving moscow?

>>129969565
Starving your opponent out of a city is a basic siege warfare tactic going back centuries.

>>129969565
Why jewish casualties in European theatre should matter at all? They are like Middle Eastern immigrants, who cares

what if the russians just killed all these people and then blamed the germans for it

The Bykivnia graves (Ukrainian: Бикiвнянcькi мoгили) is a National Historic Memorial on the site of the former village of Bykivnia (Ukrainian: Бикiвня, Russian: Быкoвня, Polish: Bykownia) on the outskirts of Kiev. During the Stalinist period in the Soviet Union, it was one of the unmarked mass grave sites where the NKVD, the Soviet secret police, disposed of thousands of executed "enemies of the Soviet state".

The number of dead bodies buried there is estimated between "dozens of thousand,"[2] to 30,000,[3] to 100,000[4] and up to 120,000,[5] though some estimates place the number as high as 200,000[6][7] or even 225,000.[5]

>>129969666
Look up any history book.

>>129965631
everyone responding to this thread is a fucking idiot

sage

>>129965631
>The holocaust happened.
>Around 5 million Jews died.
>The vast majority died through Einsatzgruppen.
>Gas was used to kill Hungarian jews

>>129969565
>starve the entire population
That's what the Allies did to Germany.

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>>129965631
fuck h*tler and fuck drumpf

>>129966746
My god that flag

Again who gives a fuck about some Middle Eastern immigrant casualties? They are not Europe's natives. It's not a genocid

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>>129965631
>>129965985
>>129971002
Yeah the holocaust happened just like the Earth is flat.

Conspiracytards get off my fucking board, the holocaust is fake as fuck.

>>129972662
>middle eastern
>he doesn't know about how most Jews in the world are descended from Euro converts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars#Judaism

>>129972412
Poor little Germany.

I think it's pretty clear that fucked up shit happened to Jews, perpetrated by nazis, BUT, there is also clearly a very strange (or not so strange, perhaps) coordinated resistance to any sort of questioning about the details of the official 6 gorillion gas chambers story.

The official story is pretty mind boggling and the coordinated attempts to shut down any questioning should tell you that ((they)) are hiding something. My thought would be that they are trying to hide the atrocities of Jewish communists in some way, though I'm not sure exactly how the lie achieves that.

That said I still think it would be wrong to say the holocaust did not happen, lots of innocent Jews who weren't evil bankers or communist agitators were wrongly kicked from their homes and honest businesses to die from disease and starvation in camps.

>>129972923
Are they pure European, even if that fake theory is real? No. They are immigrant descendant population

>>129968659
And that's ignoring maintainence.

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>>129965631
NOT!!

>>129965631
It really didn't tho

>>129973040
Pure? I wouldn't call Khazars PURE anything but their genes aren't Semitic.
In the last few centuries they have however intermarried more and more with Semitic and Mediterranean Jews.

>>129965631
I wish I could believe you because then I could believe it would happen again in my lifetime and we would finish the job
On a more personal note I am available to round up and kill jews, commies, race mixers, and other enemies of my folk

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>>129971002
What like this fine book?

>>129973180
Immigrants from the Middle East any way you figure. So who cares. No genocide can be done to them in Europe. They are not natives

>>129972969
The numbers may be disputable, as the history behind some of horrors, but its not dificult to imagine a genocide happening in that era. The soviets had years early than the nazis concentration camps, labour camps, reeducation camps and did a lot of extermination around (only by famine 6 million ukranians, on the whole as high as 20 million people during stalin rule). The jews nowadays use it as a political card in their sleeves, but it dosent mean that it didnt happened, only means that the jews like the commies and so forth use it for political purposes without any second thought.

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>>129969565
It's called a siege. You cut off their supplies and starve them out until they capitulate. They "literally planned" it because that's how fucking sieges work.

And Jewish Communists starved ~7 million Ukrainian peasants to death from 1932-33

>>129969594
Seeing how the Sowjets covered up Katyn and blamed it on the Germans, it makes me question massacres supposedly done by the Nazis in places like Vinnitsya or Babi Yar

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>>129965631
>The Holocaust happened.
in the cinema

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>>129965631
>In my mind it was real

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>>129973731
>Soviets
Funny you mention them.
Waited 16 days after Germany invaded to roll in so Britain and France would declare war on Germany despite agreeing to go at the same time.
Massacred native Poles and Germans and pretended they dindu nuffin (later blamed it on the Germans during the war crimes trials which are one of the highest cited sets of documents for muh holocaust)
Built up an invasion force on the German border and cried when the Germans preemptively broke it
Later cried about "muh clay" and became bitter enemies of the western nations where they tried to break down their rivals via espionage


Nice people. Totally not liars.

>>129965985
Post proof that it was millions.

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>>129965631
It did not happen.
Prove me wrong.

>>129974203
UUUHHHH WIKIPEDIA MUCH?
JUST LIKE GOOGLE IT

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>>129971749
It gives people a good reason to drop redpills on the JQ for any newfags or shills to look at

>>129966684
KEK

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Holodomor was worse.

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>>129974492
Way worse....

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>>129965631

Himmler and Reinhardt whacked about 300,000 people in the Red House and White House outside the camp. Slavs, Gypsies, maybe a few gays, and some Jooze. Hitler did not know nor sanction it. He intervened on the Jews behalf many times. Hitler was instrumental in the establishment of Israel.

The kikes have made an industry of the Holohoax.

>>129972969
Who invented the gas van? A jew.

Who were gassing people in Poland? Jews gassing germans.

Who did a coup in both germany and russia to gain power? Jews.
(Germany coup failed, russian coup killed royal family but Stalin manoeuvred for control)

Who started world war 2? Jews.

Who got US into world war 2? Jews.

Who was supposedly the big victim of the 20th century? The twenty million dead in Russia, as a result of jewish ideals? The hundred million dead in China, as a result of jewish ideals?
Or the supposed 6 out if 11 million dead in Germany, where every fact is so circumspect it requires defense by law to keep a superficial veneer officiality.

>>129974264
nice source

Quick Goyim, post all of your nonsensical info graphics trying to disprove the greatest tragedy of all time.

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>>129974526
I wonder (((why))) no one has made a movie about the Holodomor

How do you know it happened?

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>>129975122
>The Germans killed 6 million Jews goy, take my word for it!

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Holocaust fashion...so hot right now.

>>129965631
how do i get legs like this

>>129968345
The equivalent today is when some SJW cuck get punched for assaulting someone and cries victim, try again cuck.

>>129975122
>Greatest tragedy of all time

Not even in the most exaggerated accounts does it come close to what white female slaves in the arab slave trade endured, or the chinese under Mao (burying people alive to save bullets), or the russians under communism (so much famine they had to make propaganda reminding people that eating their children is wrong).

These dwarf holocaust stories in numbers. Yet can you name me one movie or documentary highlighting this? No? Hmm strange!

>>129965631
>The Holocaust happened.
Yes of course, and anyone who thinks otherwise is retarded.

>>129975700
>keeping your phylactery on your person
>this lich is dumb af

>>129968345
Dachau isn't a death camp. Why would it have mass ovens?

>>129965631
Show me millions of dead bodies with names and dates or gtfo.

>>129969451
>*pebble falls and echoes in distance*

>>129968345
>It all rests on one tortured man's confession.

Wow so believable

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>>129965631
>The Holocaust happened.
"(((The))) Holocaust" did not happen.

A (i.e., ANOTHER) holocaust did happen.

As it did with 8 million Ukrainians.

As it did with 20 million Russians.

As it did with 22 million Chinese.

As it did with 5~6 million Germans.

As it did with 150,000 to 1.5 million Armenians.

As it did with 1~2 million Chinese in Indonesia.

As it did with 1.5~5 million Vietnamese in Vietnam.

As it did with ~1 million Iraqis in the Iraq War.

...and so and so forth, ad infinitum.

no, allies bombed supply lines and pows starved

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Jews even pissed off Jesus off.

>>129975836
i smell poindextrose.
i bet you have a d20 within 2d4 inches of your hand right now.

>>129965631
No it didn't, I was there.

>>129965835
Mate, the records from the einsatzgruppen alone exceed that number. They kept score for fuck sake. And even if by some miracle you disproved the gas chambers, it doesn't erase the firing squads.

Also when Irving went to court in the 90's, Auschwitz still had not had a full forensics done on it, and it has now had that done.

The proof is all there if you go look for it. It probably needs to be made more accessible and easy to understand so you idiots stop LARPing and acting like dindus.

>>129965631
Not seeing star of david on cloths, not seeing tattoo on arms... which story am I supposed to believe again?

>>129976122
> vietnam and iraq
> conflating WARS with systemized murder of their own people

i thought you might be clinically retarded, but then i noticed your flag, and now i realize youre just a degenerate liar.

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>>129965631
the jews nightmarish fantasy. it's going to happen. screencap this

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>>129976511
>trust me guys it happened they kept score!!!
Okay show the document and tell where it came from.
Call me a LARPer all you want, I mean I can't be mad at you I was taught this garbage as a kid too.
A rumor made propaganda made a vicious-cycle-lie.

>>129976609
>majority of camp PoWs were occupied territories' inhabitants and captured soldiers
>their own people

Ah the smell of newfags in the morning.

>>129976511
the gas chambers were EXPERIMENTAL.
history denialists insist that if 6 gorillion jews didnt die in gas chambers, then ZERO jews died by any method.

the nazis experimented with a vast array of execution methods.
shit, they used the guillotine more than robespierre ever did.
they used diesel exhaust piped into truck boxes, drownings, strangulation, firing squads, entombment (burying somebody alive), electrocution, hangings, and eventually settled on starvation and exhaustion on work gangs as the most efficient method of elimination of judens

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>>129977051
>wacky and insane killing methods
All this conspiracy theory and no fucking evidence

Also the only source for the gas vans is a "Soviet found" document from an officer stating he placed orders for "carbon monoxide" bottles.
If shit like that doesn't make your neurons fire you might be mentally retarded.

>>129968345
>The testimony of survivors

I don't see how testimony of survivors of ruthless extremely-efficient murder camps that murdered dozens of thousands a week would have so many survivors to talk about them.

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>>129977243
"Carbon monoxide bottles"
Fuck me I'm tired.
Where the fuck did the other dudes go

The Germans were so meticulous (as Germans will be) that they kept records of the number of people killed, records of ways in which they attempted to optimize the killings, records of the shit they stole off their bodies and records of how to make the ovens hold more people.

Cmon...

>>129965631
*In Armenia.

>>129976940
> specifically talks about "POW camps"
> pretends the concentration camps were POW camps too
german, polish, french, czech, belgian, etc persons were rounded up BY THEIR OWN PUPPET REGIMES to be shipped to german extermination camps.
do the math faggot.
the german govt rounded up german jews, the german occupation appointed puppet regimes to round up jews in the occupied territories

also lets not forget the homos, catholics, gypsies and other undesirables

Vergasungskeller was just a buzzword
nazi's dindu nuffin

>>129977243
funny how the germans kept meticulous records of their experiments, and some of these experiments were used to advance medicine after the war.

ejection seats, high altitude O2 delivery systems and G-suits all owe their genesis to nazi death camp experiments

artificial blood was developed by jappo POW camp experiments

try to pull your head out of your ass.

>>129977435
>records of the shit they stole off their bodies
SS officers have been executed for this, I doubt it was an official procedure.

>>129966684
Underrated

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>>129976609
.

>>129977881
>THEY METICULOUSLY RECORDED THESE HORRIBLE THINGS BUT I CAN'T POST THEM
Go back to
>>>/x/
conspiracy tard.

>>129977600
>concentration camps aren't a type of PoW camp
Jesus fucking Christ
You dense hick

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>>129976609
..

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>>129976609
...

Why would you waste time tattooing something that you're going to destroy anyway?

>>129965631
Just what I need. A bedtime story.

>>129978328
BECAUSE THEY JUST DID OMG
WUT IN TARNATION?
THE NAZIS WERE SICK AND EVIL AND MADE SKIN LAMPSHADES AND SOAP OUT OF THEIR VICTIMS

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>>129978047
>>129978148
>>129978199
>>129978259
Who cares, killing communists is worth it

>>129977318
Shhhhh.

>>129965631
If it happend then why are the people in your pic alive? I thought it meant people died in ovens? Not very slowly from disease & sickness like any prisoners of war?

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>>129976609
....

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>>129976609
.....

I'm getting tired. Someone tell me about the tale of the milking machines.

>>129978175
> go source these things because i never even heard of shuch shit before...
> make sure you get back before the thread 404's so i can NOT read that shit though....
if i thought you were worth a squirt of piss i would source these diocuments for you, but youre just trying to run out the clock.
go fuck yourself.
you put yourself forward as an "expert" but havent read the german documents detailing their experimentation?
never heard of mengele?
eat a sack of dicks.

> POW camps are a type of concentration camp...

no, they are entirely different, and any claim to the contrary proves youre a despicable shitstabber who knows nothing of the issues, but you sure do have a shitload of opinions on the subject...

neck yourself.

>>129969960
More accurately: Several thousands of years.

>>129965631
I agree

to the deniers and antisemites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh2Icd2Eu9k

>>129978328
the scheme was a massive experiment in eugenics.

they needed to track individual subjects to determine the results of their experiment

the stated aim was to "eliminate the weakness of the jewish race" and breed a new jew who was suitable for inclusion in the europe of the future

Protip: hitler was absolutely nuts. he thought "aryans" were germanic supermen who came from ATLANTIS BY WAY OF TIBET for fucks sake

Bonus Protip: aryans are poo in loos from the indus valley who endure today as gypsies, persians and afghans

>>129968661
Since before 2014

They took it away and gave flags ala /int/

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>>129976609
......

Did Hitler kill children too?

>>129978953
>>129979032
> unreadable low res images with a wall of hyperbolic text that proffers no sources while making outrageous claims.
wow, you sure showed me.
SOLD!
im now a leftist radical with a burning desire to "Smash Capitalism" because communism is so much more successful!

youre so persuasive!
you should be the head of the anarchist steering committee

>>129965631
IT DID
6000000 JEWS DIED
AT THE HANDS OF JEWS
GOEBBELS WAS A JEW
HE WAS THE JEW NIGGER IN CHARGE
HE IS THE ONE THAT PUSHED TO EXTERMINATE ALL THE SHIT JEWS
THE JEW ELITES WANTED THIS TO HAPPEN
THE JEWS WERE CLEANING RANKS
--THE JEWS STARTED WWII
--THE JEWS KILLED THE JEWS
--ALL PART OF THE PLAN

>>129979990
imma take the quad anyway

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>>129965631
No it didn't.

>>129969451
Fun fact
The redcross' job was never to count the amount of victims. That list you have there only details the amount of victims they personally dealt with. Infact they debunk it themselves because too many people were using this misleading document.

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>>129979990
> goebbels was a jew...
stopped reading right there.

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>>129965631
>pic related


/thread

Herb.

>>129965631
it did happen, but the amount of people slaughtered was much lower than stated, and the mass execution in death camps is suspect due to...well maybe lurk here a bit?

>>129976511
>They kept score for fuck sake
kek. I learn a new fairy tale every day

>>129979812
These memes suck. The font is nearly unreadable, there's no sources (not even fake ones), and it seems like it's written by a child.

>Napalm - to scourh the earth
Did you mean scour, or scorch?

>>129979362
>> go source these things because i never even heard of shuch shit before...
Nice sources. GTFO
I've read so much more than your troll ass on the subject but if you want to make grand claims you provide grand proof. Expect it of me if I claim something.
And don't you fucking say
>LOL PROVE IT DIN HPPN
You can't prove a negative with positive-information. Burden of proof is on the accuser. Make your claim and SOURCE IT

>>129980471
https://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/document/document.htm

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>>129981106
> posts link to nazi death camp research documents
> pic related

>>129981106
Better than nothing. Series of short excerpts from different works, most are parts of testimonies the authors recorded and compiled.
By posting this you've actually opened up an avenue for which YOU can learn a thing or two. Take a random instance, like the gas vans. What excerpts are used, what book is the excerpt from? Who is the author? Read the book. Who did the author cite? Read up on the witness. Read the WITNESS' testimony.

Wiernik was cited 5 times in Hillberg's "Destruction of the European Jew" and is THE source for all the
>ebil nahzee brutality
in Treblinka.
Read his memoir. "A Year in Treblinka". You'll see why I come here saying the holocaust is a conspiracy theory.
It's the same thing with all of them.
Also recommended read: Rassinier's works.
"Crossing the Line" Will change your life. At least in regards to your perspective on WW2 and the Gerries and their prisoners.

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>>129965631
guy on the left is over it already

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>>129976609
.......

>>129965631
Why do libs always post these succinct little sentences with a dramatic picture accompanying it in that buzzfeed-esque way where you're supposed to go "wow, that's so POWERFUL"
It's such a smug way of getting your point across
Have you ever considered that people don't hate the things you're saying so much as the way you're saying them, you faggot?

>>129965631
(((Yes)))

>>129979812
Laos was obviously used by the enemy.

Couldn't have happened to nicer group of people.

>>129981974
>invasion of Iraq
>illegal
How?
Also Sadam did have WMDs, his chemical weapon stockpiles can still be found around the mid east.

>>129965631
well you say that but they made it against the law to question the holocaust in europe

why would you need to do that shortly after the war ended if it happened ?

it would be like "hans stop being a faggot you know you burned those jews... we all know you did it and we are not saying it was a bad thing but i mean come on you not a nice guy"

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>>129982494
>"anthrax"
lie
>"mobile chemical labs"
lie
>"WMD's"
lie
>9/11
nothing to do with it

Vs.

>wanted to trade oil directly with customers using gold -- i.e., bypassing Jew.S. dollar
true
>no longer played warlord ball with the MIC that installed him to police the oil fields
true
>post cold war "enemy" required to fill void
true
>part of Wesley Clark;s "seven sands" prophecy
true

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>>129982327
>clinically certified imbeciles who've never read anything besides /pol/lution

>>129966684
fucking kek

>>129983351
>"WMD's"
>lie
true

>>129965631
>The Holocaust happened
in a dream a Jew had.

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>>129983801
you gormless goyim are pathetic that it's sad

>>129965631
>The Holocaust happened.
right after the Jews stopped by the brothel, hit the theater, took a few hours for swimming and ran through the rotating knife blade obstacle course then got executed by delousing gas to get burned in an oven for 5 mins.

So what about the Nazi and SS guards who testified that the Holocaust took place?

Larp all you want but it's only neo-Nazis and Natsocs who deny the Holocaust decades after the fact in an attempt to salvage moral legitimacy. Not a single real Nazi ever denied it in testimony or complained that evidence of the Holocaust was being fabricated or invented.

>checkmate nazis

gringos, if you can, would you gas all mexicans in fun camps?

>>129965631
Yeah the Natsocs put Jews in concentration camps to learn how to do manual labor after they spent years getting fat collecting rents in postWW1 Weimar while Germans worked themselves to death.

Then the allies cut off supply lines to try to starve that Natsocs, so Natsocs kept food to feed their people while the jews in the camps starved.

Meanwhile, a number of Jews 'escaped' to America and left all the other Jews behind.

Then the Soviets invaded Germany, took a look at the concentration camps, realized they'd have a legal shitshow if they let these jews live because they'd all claim ownership on Germany, so the soviets executed all the jews in the camps and blamed it on the Natsocs so the Soviets could take full control over Eastern Europe without having to wade through a zillion legal claims from jews that it should go back to them.

Stalin knew jews, he knew what they would do if he let them live, so he ordered them all killed and blamed it on Natsocs, so they could then execute their remaining leaders and have full unhindered control.

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>>129965631
Um, no sweetie. It didn't. The future belongs to those who deny the holocaust. Better get on the right side of history, bigot.

>>129965835
About 270 000 - 290 000, actually

>>129988071
Kek, that's a good muh right side of history troll.

>>129965631
>Yes goyim
>Did you know that six thousand googol joos died at Auschwitz?
>if you disagree with me you are a evil nazi
>The holocaust was so real that we have laws imprisoning people who say otherwise.

>>129968345
There was two ovens at Dachau. The gas chamber/oven rooms were built after the war.

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>>129987411
Nuremberg defendants were tortured/coerced into giving admissions. Hell half were delivered via letter not even by the defendant
Pic related

>>129965631
not really

>>129965631
but were 6 million jews killed? i think not.

>>129969565
>killing commies
>bad
you tried

>>129965631
It happened to Germans and ethnic Russians. That is it. Both of which were because of anglos obeying Jews.

>>129974280
(((goggle))))

>>129965631
how do we know all these pictures we see are not just pictures from the russian gulags?

>>129975123
There is.
I'm Not sure if it's been realesed yet but I definitely saw the trailer for it.

>>129965631
What's that?

>>129965631
Seriously, how can you look at these ugly inbred fucks and not want them to be Shoah'd?

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>>129980104
>i heard somewhere that this document is false
nice proof there cuck

how about pic related (its Auschwitz)? tiny lil ovens next to showers (or gas chambers if you have single digit IQ and believe that). doors aren't even sealed so the gas would escape if there was any. if zyklon b did escape it would ignite from the furnace 6 feet away and destroy the place. doesnt add up

how come the west never discovered any concentration camps? the only ones recorded were taken over by russians who years ago lost their country to jews in the bolshevik revolution.

how come every french inmate interviewed said on record that there was no mass murdering going on?

how come historians keep revising the death toll and its now down to a few hundered thousand, which correlates to the red cross numbers, and most of which were not in fact jewish at all?

how come no ashes were ever found?

how come no mass graves were ever found?

how come hitler deported jews if he was supposedly killing them all?

how come the only confessions they got at the nuremburg trials were all beaten out of the nazi leaders and forced? (some even said they killed 25million)

how come general patton said they defeated the wrong enemy when he took germany?

how come you can't use your brain?

>>129989537
Why is it that none of the defendants in Nazi war trials ever denied the holocaust? They claim things like "I didn't do it" or "I was just following orders", but never "It didn't happen".

And I mean NEVER, to my knowledge at least. Not even once.

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>>129977318
Stop making so much logical sense, goy

>>129968659
Have you ever read an opposing view in your life? There was more than one camp, as well as mass graves.

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>there are people in this thread that think the Holohoax is real

>>129965631
Best joke I've heard all week, thanks bro I needed that.

>>129990854
The initial claim was 6 million dead, with at least 4 million dead at auschwitz alone. The revised figure for auschwitz is now around 1.5 million. Which camps were responsible for the 2.5 million death discrepancy?

>>129965631

Well shit. A picture of around 20 emaciated looking people who may or may not be Jewish is certainly damning evidence that 6 million Jews were turned into lampshades.

>>129969565
killing slav untermenchen
>bad
no

>>129991118
"In reality, more than 3,000,000 died in the camps (the rest behind the Eastern front and in the ghettos). The two worst camps were Auschwitz (about 1.3 million victims, 1.1 million of them Jews) and Treblinka (about 800,000 victims, nearly all Jews but also about 3,000 Gypsies). "

http://www.nizkor.org/features/qar/qar36.html

>>129990854
no, there aren't any mass graves. Most pics you see with piled up dead bodies are dead -get this-
germans from dresden.

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>Starving PoWs proves the pedal-powered brainsmashers and pic related existed.
Yawn.

>>129991424
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2087735/British-archaeologist-discovers-fresh-evidence-mass-graves-World-War-Two-death-camp-Treblinka.html

I recommend google next time.

Its been one day and the LARPing as an SJW with a faggot or BLM flag is already way out of control.

>>129991423
The jews admitted to lying about other ethnic groups dying in the holocaust, so your source is already wrong. So the initial claim of 4 million dying at auschwitz meant 2 million died in the other camps and ghettos. So that means when they lowered the auschwitz figure to 1.5 million, they simply redistributed the deaths amongst various locations with no records, evidence, or methodology for doing so, correct?
https://www.jewishjournal.com/news/nation/214283/remember-11-million

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>>129965631
>The Holocaust happened.
yea it happened, to no more than 500k Joos

>>129965631

Yes but 6 GORMILLION?

>>129991983
>4 million dying at Auschwitz
see >>129991423

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>>129992138
Are you retarded?
>believes the holocaust happened
Nevermind.

>>129992466
That's not what the current best evidence suggests. By the way, the concept of revising your view of reality based on the current best evidence is what makes science and especially medicine work.

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Does that mean that we have to apologize to bars of soap ?

>>129992647
Just like how there "were" gas chambers at Dachau now there weren't any such chambers =)

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>>129965631
LOL!
STFU you lying sheenie!

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>>129965631
nope

>>129992905
In the sense that tens of thousands of people were starved to death and sporadically killed in it, yes, Dachau was a death camp. The term "extermination camp" should probably not be applied to Dachau, because that is generally taken to mean one of the large camps in occupied Poland where mass gassings were performed (see question 3).

What is not in question is that the gas chamber did exist. The Allies captured the memo sent from Dr. Sigmund Rascher at Dachau to Himmler, which read (see Kogon et al., Nazi Mass Murder, 1993, p. 202):

As you know, the same facilities [gas chambers] have been built at the Dachau concentration camp as at Linz [Hartheim]. Whereas the "invalid transports" end up in certain chambers anyway, I ask whether we cannot test some of our various combat gases on specific persons who are involved in the action. Up till now there have only been animal tests or accounts of accidental deaths in the manufacture of these gases. Because of this paragraph, I have sent this letter marked "Secret."

http://www.nizkor.org/features/qar/qar04.html

Maybe you should read this one source with references to primary sources that responds to all of your claims!

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>>129993062
hey faggot why dont you address my post
>>129990320 here
dont just ignore it because you got btfo

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>>129965631
Everybody needs to learn the truth about jews And their pathological lying:
https://murderbymedia3.wordpress.com/2016/01/01/antisemitism-is-not-a-pathology-it-is-based-firmly-in-truth/

>>129981933
guy behind him is rocking out

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>>129990854
Mass graves?
Where?
Any proof??

>>129993170
The gas chambers were used to kill lice. Typhus is carried by lice, and typhus has a nasty habit of breaking out during war time.

From the United States Holocaust Museum website:
>In 1942, the crematorium area was constructed next to the main camp. It included the old crematorium and the new crematorium (Barrack X) with a gas chamber. There is no credible evidence that the gas chamber in Barrack X was used to murder human beings.

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005214

>>129993579
playing air guitar...everythings ok.

>>129988320
He did say OVER 100 000 didn't he?

>>129972613
sez the petty little yid.

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>>129972934
you poor little jewish faggot.

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>>129965631
Nobody cares!

>>129993626
HCN (hydrocyanic acid, the gas released by Zyklon-B) has a "side effect" which the SS found very useful: it kills human beings quite well.

In fact, the same concentration kills humans and other mammals much faster than it kills lice and bugs. The concentration used for delousing, 8-10 grams per cubic meter, kills humans very quickly, though it takes up to 32 hours to get rid of bugs and clothes moths. Even when a lower concentration is used, death comes swiftly.

In fact, HCN is used to kill people in gas chambers today, in the United States.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/qar/qar28.html

I'm still just copy and pasting. Yawn.

>>129993612
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=holocaust+mass+graves

>>129965631
Not many people deny it completely. Most deniers believe that it wasn't six million, or the gas chambers existed. We can all speculate on how the holocaust happened, but we have no first hand information. Best to leave it to the experts.

>>129994045
So the Nazis shaved people from head-to-toe and took their clothes because they were just THAT evil, right? Give me a break.

>>129966082
In fact most jews were prussian, which now is poland, so yeah they killed a bunch of polander, nothing of value was lost, thank you based SS.

>>129994045
Nobody is going to read your shitty source because you have a poverty tier PC and security. My antivirus flags that shit as a phishing scam. Nice try, faggot.

>>129975123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_dnRA5NFhs

This is all you Need, Hollywood is shit anyway

>>129977881
Funny how they kept meticulous records of everything yet neglected to record the alleged holocaust.
LOL!!
Why are jews such audacious liars?

Hmm, look like recently deloused interned communists that were starving after Allied bombers destroyed the rail lines into the camps to me...

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>>129994169
Ah yes, as we can see the Zyklon B has emaciated their bodies. This couldn't possibly be due to starvation and disease.

>>129979718
https://murderbymedia3.wordpress.com/2016/01/01/antisemitism-is-not-a-pathology-it-is-based-firmly-in-truth/

Who should I believe? A bunch of neckbeards with MS paint images on the web, or professional historians widely validated by the academic field?

really makes you think.....

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10008193

>>129979726
More wacky jew slander.

>>129965631
Ok, over 100 million died because of communism but you don't see third gen russians asking for special privileges or reparations. They are exploiting something terrible for monetary gain

>>129993295
I think he's ignoring you because you're full of shit

>>129994883
>Professional historians who would most likely go to jail and/or get fired if they dared question it
ftfy

>>129994883
Look up Commandant Höss's testimony at Nuremburg and compare it to current Auschwitz numbers boyo.

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>>129994169
holy shit you are retarded. here. pic related. do i need to go thru every camp for you?

>>129994883
((((((historians)))))))) validated by other (((((((historians))))))

>>129994883
one of the "professional Historians" you talk about working in that Museum
https://www.ushmm.org/remember/office-of-survivor-affairs/survivor-volunteer/rachel-mutterperl-goldfarb

what could that mean ?

>>129968345
>The testimony of survivors

Oh like that one woman that claimed she ate her family jewels every day in the camp so they wouldn't find them, then she'd shit them out and clean them with dirt?

Or that (surprise) same woman claiming Mengele himself tattooed her and she watched him change the eyeballs of the people in the room?

Or those that claimed that after gassing, the bodies were dropped in a secret room where the floor opens and the bodies fell to an escalator to be transported?

Or the testimonies from other non-Jew prisoners that they actually had a pool, football field, music band, theater plays, canteen and cigarettes.


It happened, but it was NOT to exterminate the Jews. They were just war prisoners that sadly got trapped during the war and most starved to death along with the guards from food supplies being cut due to bombing.

If they wanted to exterminate them why go through so much trouble, sacrificing even their own guards?

>>129995079
>>129995121
>>129995247
>>129995379
It's not my fault that your bias and twisted world view keep you from seeing the truth

https://www.hdot.org/

>>129968345
You mean the same war crime trials that claim the Nazis had a WMD capable of vaporizing a town full of 20,000 jews without leaving any radioactive waste? Gee, that would have been convenient to have during the war.

>>129965631
I counted 24 Jews, doesn't look like 6 millions to me.

>>129995438
>They were just war prisoners that sadly got trapped during the war
This is a trap. The Nazis weren't perfect and their internment of Jewish civilians was wrong.

>>129995672
Did you look up what I mentioned or are you too afraid to confront dissonant information?

>>129965631
As if this needs proof.

I ignore all the stupid little dumbshits from Iran that try to say otherwise on here.

>>129995748
I mean they got trapped in a way that all the supplies getting to the camps couldn't reach them anymore due to train lines being bombed. I mean the entire camps being trapped without food, including guards, medics, and other staff, and of course, the prisoners. That's why we see the malnourished pictures.

ALL countries had war camps where they'd take the groups of people rebelling and being a threat towards the country itself. Judea declared a war on Germany before WW2 happened. Yet no one talks about this, or other concentration camps across the world. Only muh (((((feefees)))))

>>129993964
Huuurrr Durr
> regularly posts about the evil of the jews
> then posts cartoons about how the joooooooos are at fault everytime is called out to be full of shit

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>>129996019
>ancap sucking up to his jew overlords

>>129995672
complete fucking bullshit

The jews were seen as a dangerous fifth column after the brutal uprisings in 1918 and 1919-1923 which caused a civil war in Germany with up to 5 Million fighting on both sides.
9 out of 10 of the rebells who wanted to creat a communist state in Germany were fucking joos, so Hitler saw them as enemies and basically wanted them out of the public sphere when he started his war

Do you realy think gassing them and burning them was a economicaly Sound decision in a war where you needed every last ressources you could get ?

They imprisoned them, used them for slave labour and once the war went south for the natsoc Regime in Berlin, they didnt have Food and other stuff to Keep them healthy and just let them starve, since the Germans themselves didnt have any Food left at that Point

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>>129965631
I want holocaust 2.0. No half-measures this time.

>>129995854
I looked it up and you'll have to point out what your saying because I don't see anything that would contradict me.
>>129996192
>Do you realy think gassing them and burning them was a economicaly Sound decision in a war where you needed every last ressources you could get ?
The Nazi regime was fundamentally opposed to the idea of Jewish people. You're projecting your own sense of strategic logic back onto historical leaders... lol

>>129996381
That's why they paid Jewish people to move into what-was-then Palestine, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

Wasting fuel and other resources to fulfill some lofty goal of exterminating the Jewish race in a grandiose way while fighting a 2-front war would be retarded.

>>129996648
this is a typical tactic I see from deniers. They ignore mountains of documented, well researched evidence to focus in on one little point and say "Well clearly if this is true, than the holocaust couldn't have happened!" I've done a lot of unbiased research because of my curiosity on this topic, and it takes a lot of logical distortion to get to a point where you are denying the genocide.

>>129975899
because even though it wasn't a "death camp", thousands of its inmates were killed by the SS or died of starvation and disease. There is even a (relatively small) gas chamber at Dachau. The crematorium provided a relatively hygienic way to get rid of the bodies.

>>129997242
>implying that it's documented
I've done a lot of unbiased research on this myself back when I was an AnCap and I arrived at the opposite conclusion

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>>129997242
>>129997506
holy shit...both been debunked. please read my earlier posts

also people joining the thread, please read...hate repeating myself

>>129968916
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
suprised no one commented on this.
Soviet union takes over poland post war. tells world germany was responsible for murdering all those poles. rest of world accepts it because they need to make germany the bad guy to push all bad shit that happened during the war as only germany's fault

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>>129975899
>>129997506
i wouldn't call it a "mass oven" at Dachau, it was relatively small, but I think if people here are honest to themselves, they know what purpose it served.

>>129965631
it's amazing how successful a movement can be if it allows you to blame your own failures on someone else
>didn't win the world war?
just blame the jews
>couldn't get into art school?
it's because art has become jewified and degenerate
>can't get the girl you want?
clearly the jews have subverted society

remember, always blame the world instead of facing your own failures

>>129997242
I'm moderate and haven't gone through any of the research. Can you enlighten me with any sources. Usually I just see your side using adhoms like you used yourself against the deniers side claiming they are uneducated or looking at it from a biased approach. The only few good things I have see against the deniers just target a few of their sources and that is all stuff from years ago. I have yet to be given a good argument from your side that I haven't already heard from when I was in high school. Enlighten me I am actually curious on your data and conclusions.

>>129998098
just google "debunking holocaust denial"

>>129998355
I'm too lazy, I've seen this argument for 5 years and don't want to do the research. Give me sources and info-graphics.

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>>129965631
Yep and what the fuck of it.
>Failing to see your point OP.

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>>129998098
read thru the thread, me and some other nazi's posted actual real proof, and there is infinate circumstantial evidence that it never happened

these guys have no real evidence proving anything did happen
>>129998355
>>129994169
these dummies just keep saying "google it"

>>129998465
https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/
https://debunkingdenialism.com/2013/09/14/the-intellectually-barren-wasteland-of-holocaust-denial/
there i saved you a few clicks

>>129998916
I want unbiased shit man. This stuff is obviously made to disprove denialism, which I don't buy into to begin with. This entire thing is going at it assuming your conclusion is correct. Give me data and facts not skewed into a conclusion before it was even formulated.
>>129998709
At this point I have been reading through these threads since /pol/ was a thing. Its a hard redpill to swallow and I don't want to be wrong when I do. I lean towards you guys simply because everyone that argues for it has done it poorly like >>129998916. Still I have yet to do my own research in all these years. The one day I started I stopped because I wasn't sure if I wanted to know the truth be it either side.

>>129999281
do you doubt the systematic murder and disposal of the bodies in the camps and by the Einsatzgruppen or do you just question the number of victims?

>>129998709
Also if you could disprove the few info-graphics I have seen against your own info-graphics I would be much more inclined to believe you guys. They are the merchant guild info-graphics. They are the main reason I have not accepted either side.

>>129999444
Neither I have no conclusions to be made. I have seen you fags argue it out so many times I am unsure and have hard opinion on the matter.

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>>129968659
>and hour
DELET

>>129999565
but you do recognize the existance of gas chambers and crematoriums in the camps?

>>129973108
don't post that shit here, are you 12

>>129999666
I've seen arguments against the gas chambers and arguments for. Crematoriums I'm pretty sure even denialists believe in just don't agree what they were used for. Like I said I am skeptical on both and have no concrete opinion because of that.

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>>129965631
Daily reminder

Wew

>>129965631
prove it

>>129999281
Every interpretation of facts has a certain degree of bias, but there is no "opinion" or "argument" when it comes to historical evidence. It's up to you, the reader, to see what the bias is. The reason I accuse deniers of lacking education is that historians apply the same Aristotelian, scientific logic to the world that all other academic disciplines do. It's relatively impartial. All "sources disproving deniers" I've read follow that logic far, far better and more comprehensively than anything I've seen shared by a denier. If well validated evidence proving the Holocaust is a hoax emerges, I'll accept it.

>>129999820
besides books and internet articles i can't say anything about the extermination of jews, pows, sinti&roma and the like, so if you question the credibility of these articles i can't convince you there.

However, two of my family members were killed along with 10.652 others at a place called Grafeneck, which was a mansion that had room for 100 inmates. All of these people officialy died there of natural causes from january to december 1940. There is a room that could be used as gas chamber and a crematorium.

Now you can count two and two together.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grafeneck_Euthanasia_Centre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_T4

>>130000536
It's "put two and two together" you fucking cuck.

>>129965631
>look they were starved thats for sure but 6mil...do you know what would be necessary for such a thing and during the war ?

No doubt they killed some of them but the numbers... + there weren't that many jews left most of them died in middle ages from inquisition

>>129965631
And it needs to happen again

>>130000376
>All "sources disproving deniers" I've read follow that logic far, far better and more comprehensively than anything I've seen shared by a denier.
Just because its better doesn't mean its scientifically done. The website is chattered to proving denialism wrong rather then how its suppose to be done, which is proving it didn't happen then come to the opposite conclusion. That is my main problem with both sides, their unwillingness to set up a null hypothesis and prove it wrong with an alternative. Both of you come at it with a conclusion and attempt to justify it. That is not "unbiased research" which is why I'm still not willing to believe either side doesn't have some agenda to push.

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Yes. Roughly 5,9 millions Jews. Roughly 3 millions Polish. And roughly 3 millions Russians, Freemasons, Homosexuals, Mentally ill, Communists, Socialists, Resistants and Nationalists.
That makes 12 million direct victims of the systematic extermination campaign put forth by the Nazi regime.

>>129968659
>breads
What the fuck?

>>129999666
crematorium yes, gas chambers did not exist.

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>>129965631
y'all know it was just a lie to enslave germany

>>130000950
>Both of you come at it with a conclusion and attempt to justify it
Only the deniers do that. Historians explain facts as they are. It just happens that the best refutations of deniers come from people who are dedicated to spreading information and challenging misinformation.

>>129968659
I agree with the conclusion but the calculations are false :
>15 ovens, it's only for Auschwitz
>1.5 million only for Auschwitz
>not 5 years but less than 3 years, for "historians" say it only began in 1942

>>130001178
>Only the deniers do that.
Your doing that. Also adhom not an argument. Give me something more like >>130000536 and I will believe your not trying to push an agenda.

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>>129999281
>>129999454
honestly, even if by some chance im wrong, and the holocaust did happen, the numbers are at least 1/3 of the claim or lower, even going by the "debunking denial" links that burger posted (yes i read thru most of the impostant parts of the website)

id still side with hitler if the holocaust did happen, id even gain respect for him. jews do run the western world, i dont think anyone argues against that, at least not here. get rid of them, whether by deportation or genocide of what have you.

its no secret that jews are genociding whites and destroying western civilization, albeit very slowly. kill or be killed.

>>130001128
yes they did, you can visit them. Also, in case you claim they were normal showers, it's funny that all of these rooms have airtight doors, isn't it?

thanks, goy

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>>129966684

>>130001277
I have no personal stake in whether or not you believe that the holocaust happened as commonly accepted or was much smaller/didn't happen. I don't care one bit, and it won't effect my life at all. I'm trying to show you the logic I used to think through the situation. The "denyingdeniers" site particularly discusses the logic of the argument. "Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll be fed for life." In the end you have to decide how you want to see the world.

>>130000536
Can you refute this >>129968659
Its the main thing keeping me skeptical about the whole crematorium thing. I just find it hard to believe so many people could be made to disappear in non-war related causalities rather then civilian. I'm interested to see what you have to say since this is one of the main things keeping me back from being against denialism.

>>129965631
Arent you a good goy!

>>130001524
there were several "extermination camps", not just auschwitz-birkenau, also treblinka, sobibor and some more
not all bodies were cremated
almost every "normal" kz had a crematorium
hundreds of thousands of victims weren't killed in camps but shot by the Einsatzgruppen (Babyn jar, for example) or killed in gas vans.
The victims of massacres were mostly buried, not burned

>>130001415
>id still side with hitler if the holocaust did happen
This is what keeps me skeptical about your agenda. It falls into the Jews are evil agenda and even though I think they are liars and killed Jesus I still am wary of your side because its in your interests to prove it never happened.
>>130001513
>I don't care one bit
Don't keep lying to me faggot, if you didn't care you wouldn't have done "unbiased research" on the subject and wouldn't be posting and trying to convince me. Your as bad as the other side your agenda could potentially be more insidious as the deniers if what they are saying is true.

>>130001788
Then where are their bodies and bone traces, surely we most have ample evidence of that if so many were killed.

>>130001791
I don't care about your opinion. I'm just posting for the fun of it and to kill time, which is what I do every time I check out /pol/ every once in a while. I literally could not give a fuck what your opinion is.

>>130001420
funny we never found one cadaver dead of asphyxia out of millions of them

>>130001890
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderaktion_1005

>>130001950
>I'm just posting for the fun of it and to kill time
In that case I'll ignore your posts and look for someone competent to convince me.

>>130001996
can you back that up with some sort of source?

>>130002018
Is there an english version?

>>130002096
sorry, here it is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderaktion_1005

>>130002035
you're a special kind of retarded, aren't you?

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Ah, just in time! I made this image.

>>130002118
>Meanwhile, the secret orders to exhume mass graves and burn the hundreds of thousands of victims instead came directly from the Nazi leadership in April.[7][8]
You see why I'm still skeptical. Even if its true that many were buried, and then burned that goes back to the original question, which is how did they burn so many?

>>130002481
in camps with crematoriums and elsewhere with fuel poured over the bodies

>>130002583
>fuel poured over the bodies
Thats not enough to burn bones.
>After some two hours at 1000′C, the only recognisable parts are the bones, which are in a brittle or crumbly condition.
Bones will not become ash by poring fuel over them and stacking with wood. It takes crematoriums to do that, and that is still my question.

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>>130002744
there where bone crushing machines, you can see that in the article i linked

also many bodies simply weren't disposed of

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>>130002744
also there are picture of the mass shootings of the einsatzgruppen