You going with Musk to Mars or you going with Bezos to the Moon?

why the fuck would you go to the Moon. Mars has more potential

>>129959956
Helium 3, so it would be cheaper to fly to the moon refuel, pick up equipment and spaceship modules then continue on to mars

>>129959337
Yeah they can go. I'll stay here on Earth, the place that has everything I need readily available. Enjoy living in a desolate box with nothing to do faggots.

>>129959337
Neither. Building a space services business to cover the whole sector.

>>129959337
Fuck Bezos, that dude is a queball faggot.
>i dislike Musk as well but id rather party out on Mars and mine for alien tech with him than that amazon faggot

>>129959337
I'd love to go to Mars away from 99.9% of Humanity.

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>>129959337
>if i make my public goal completely unrealistic, no one will be disappointment when i make next to no progress getting there.
genius conman

>>129960488
Only with fusion candles.

>>129960803
>with nothing to do
>never played in the sandbox as a kid

Fuck, I bet you grew up playing dumbass games with structured story lines that walked you through the entire story.

It's literally a fucking planetary sized sandbox, you can do anything you want, anything.

>>129959337
im going to uranus
XD

>>129959337
>not venus
baka

>>129961335
Just move to a nigger ghetto, no humanity for miles

>>129959337
neither, they're both retarded. Mars is retarded it offers nothing of value over the Moon and the Moon is closer. Go out their and grab and asteroid and crash it into Earth if your demands aren't met.

>>129961752
Yeah, wearing a ridiculously bulky suit that depletes of it's oxygen supply. By anything do you mean bounce around in a fucking wasteland with nothing in it? Just go out into the desert and take some drugs.

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>>129959337
Good point.

>>129961887
There is nothing to get from venus.

>>129962410
Literally you would be creating a new world.
It would be similar to colonizing the US. Opportunity abounds if you know how to exploit it.

>>129962647
I don't think anyone knows how to exploit it.

>>129959337
"Fun." It's suicide.

>>129962647
Yeah where are you going to get oxygen, water, food? What about building materials? Shipments when it's a huge endeavor to get there in the first place? What happens if one doesn't make it? It's a pipe dream right now. These fags are only talking about it to enrich themselves even more. Also the US had native resources like flora and fauna and a breathable atmosphere, the two are not comparable at all. You techno-religion fags are the fucking worst.

We'll never leave the solar system. Enjoy your probes.

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Mars would make a better base for asteroid mining which is probably the biggest incentive for businesses to invest in the colonization of space

>>129959337
Hard to say who I'd like to work for less. Musk I guess, at least his work isn't soul-crushing.

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>>129959337
I'll wait for the KANGZ to show up. They should be here anytime, amirite white boiis?

>>129962647
>It would be similar to colonizing the US.
US already had air, water , fertile soil. Travel to America costed like several thousand bucks in the today's money. If want it "similar to US" you need to wait till mars has air and trip costs $10K.

>>129966098
>better base for asteroid mining
>jumping down gravitational well
>better

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>>129959337
I think I'll stay home and beat off.

A moonbase is more feasible.

>>129966282
>Hard to say who I'd like to work for less. Musk I guess, at least his work isn't soul-crushing.
I was literally talking to a guy today who knows a former Musk employee that decided he had to quit because his life was a stressful hell.

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>>129959337
>moon
>mars
I cant stop laughing at you fucking plebs. What we NEED is a colony on the night side of the sun.

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I choose Bogdanagrad

that's cute kids now let's get serious.

cloud-top colonies in Venus is the only sensible choice.

similar Gs, comparable temp range, comfortable pressure

get it done faggots

>>129959337
Hyper wealthy and "smart" Jews still trying and failing to convince the goyim that space is real.

>>129967808
This guy knows what's up.

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>>129959337

I'm going to 16 Psyche.

Its a solid metal asteroid theorized to be the core of an ancient Mars sized rocky planet that was destroyed during the formation of the solar system.

Its mineral worth is estimated at $10,000,000,000,000,000 or 93,500 times the world GDP. That's a lot of latinum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbYnpm6GGAk

>>129959337
I'm going to live on the planet my species evolved on and enjoys its bounty.
Have fun dying in a wasteland worse than anywhere on Earth for absolutely no gain.

>>129968135
>Its mineral worth is estimated at $10,000,000,000,000,000 or 93,500 times the world GDP.
ANY asteroid has thousands times of world GDP in minerals (gravel).

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>>129966098
>earth companies want to make money
>mine asteroids
>bringing them down to earth is a loss
>why did we invest in this again?

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>>129968482
>>129968135

This is a 130 mile diameter asteroid made of nothing but heavy metals. I'd like to see you build a Dyson sphere out of gravel.

>>129967808
Is it still 96.5% carbon dioxide at that altitude?

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What is it with tech guys and Mars, anyway?

>>129968793
Why would anyone bother to make a dyson shell or sphere?

If they have the energy to do it, they don't need to do it.

>>129969263
Too many science fiction books.

>>129968793
Who needs Dyson sphere when i monopolize construction market of the world undercutting gravel prices?

(BTW Dyson sphere is mechanically impossible).

>>129969114
yeah i mean you're going to have to bring your own atmosphere, anywhere you go - that's a given

but since atmospheric pressure would be similar, 'leaks' would be no more rapid or dangerous than here on earth.

>>129968135
There is no platinum on 16 Psyche, it's $10 Quintillion of iron. Do you have any idea how long it would take to sell that much iron?

>>129959337
What is Musk going to do start up another welfare based company.

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>>129959956
because it fulfills my 80's/90's sci fi fantasies

>>129969497
You could never sell it at a profit. There's simply no way to recoup the losses.

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>>129969428
>Too many science fiction books.

>>129960488
There's no point in mining He-3 when we still haven't worked out D-D fusion.

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>>129969449
>company brings an entire asteroid of gravel to earth
>still can't get the truck full of gravel to the work site

>>129969497
fuck, I misread. $10 Quintillion in iron alone, I guess there could be some platinum in there, it's 200km across.

>>129964069
>where are you going to get oxygen, water, food?
Water's easy to get on Mars. It only looks dry because it's cold. The ground's full of ice.

Oxygen's not hard, since there's water, it just takes energy. Food's a similar problem, since the soil is rich in the nutrients plants need. You have to build airtight greenhouses to grow crops in.

>What about building materials?
Just like on Earth, you can get building materials from the ground.

It's not going to be easy. It'll require advanced technology and a large initial investment. I'm not really convinced people are actually going to go through with it in the next couple of decades, but it's clearly possible.

>>129969683
lol

>>129969683
Delivery is not in my plans.

>>129969717
we're nowhere near having that kind of thirst for iron.

not yet.
but it's nice to know we got a little bonus chest waiting for us as soon as we get to that level.

gonna feed off that for a long time while we stretch our legs

>>129969497

If its a planet core then there's platinum, gold, all the heavy metals that occur naturally in planets.

The iron and nickel are what you'd dig through to get to the good stuff.

>>129959337

Like choosing between the Easter bunny and leprechauns.

>>129960488
>>129969674

Also 3He on the moon is 50 parts per billion. 150 million tons of regolith per ton of 3He.

Just use tritium to make it.

>>129969930
it's not a planet core, that's retarded.

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>tfw when space isnt even real

>>129969746

Yearning destinations you'll never reach while the Jew picks your pocket daily. Fuck off.

>>129963892
No, it's risky but it's not suicide.

>>129970212

>but it's not suicide.

You first fatty.

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>>129969717
>$10 Quintillion in iron alone
The fuck are we going to do with all of that iron though? The only thing successful mining and return will do is make iron ridiculously cheap- the whole prospect of profiting off the venture will be impossible.

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>>129959337
Internet ping to the Moon is one or two seconds.

Internet ping to Mars can be up to 45+ minutes.

You niggers need to be taking into consideration the important things.

>>129961611
> This ^
> I thank Elon for his pronouncement. Based on who is substantially moved by his pronouncement, I can more readily identify brainlets and know who not to talk with w.r.t to real science/engineering.

What's the magnetic field game like on Venus?

Feckin belta loada hea feggit

>>129969746
all of which you can just get on earth. Why not build places to live in Antarctica or other places that aren't developed on earth?

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>You going with Musk to Mars or you going with Bezos to the Moon?
Nah. I'm going to hell in a hand basket with Trump.

>>129970366
>tfw instead of bitching about third worlders playing online games and clogging up the loadtimes with their abhorrent ping, we'll be mad about third planeters and their even worse ping

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>>129969957
>when your country didn't exist during the space race

>>129970329
Build cities in your space colonies. Materiel weight isn't as much of a concern when you have less than half of earths gravity on Mars.

>>129970329
It won't make iron cheap because you won't be able to make a profit selling it at market rates when you have to get each ton from the fucking asteroid belt and Rio Tinto and BHP Billington already pull A BILLION TONS OF IRON ORE from the earth EVERY YEAR.

Space is for autists.

>>129970725
>Build cities in your space colonies
Cities for who? The robots? What do people do that earns them their keep?

>>129970609
>Speed of light is a constant

>>129970625

Germany doesn't exist at all...it's a much a country as the notion that humans have trespassed beyond LEO.

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>>129959337
LEAVE MOON ALONE!!!
IT"S ORBITAL IS TOO CLOSE TO THE EARTH
IF SOMETHING HAPPEN IT WILL FALL TO THE EARTH!!

>>129970201
The German had aspirations once, with colonies just like other European powers. He once demanded greatness and sought to better his people. He held a presence in Africa as well as Asia and the southern Pacific.

Look at him now: the caged German. No dreams or aspirations to escape the sinking ship of Europa while the vermin pour in to your borders and eat the corpses. You deserve your fate.

>>129959337
right, because the moon could never be a staging area for a mars journey.

>>129970625
US didn't exist during ships race too. So?

>>129970833


Robots that are programmed by Bosley Medical Group implant technicians.

The moon is a cluster fuck die to political shit. We cannot go back there because we do not own it and the other countries would just get upset.

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>>129969263
Drugs.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertglatter/2015/11/27/lsd-microdosing-the-new-job-enhancer-in-silicon-valley-and-beyond/#49c9a6fd188a

http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/07/09/hacking-the-brain-silicon-valley-entrepreneurs-turn-to-fasting-and-smart-drugs/

https://techcrunch.com/2008/07/15/how-many-of-our-startup-executives-are-hopped-up-on-provigil/

http://www.mercurynews.com/2014/07/25/use-of-illicit-drugs-becomes-part-of-silicon-valleys-work-culture/

https://www.altamirarecovery.com/blog/cocaine-addiction-amongst-tech-workers-in-silicon-valley/

It's why so many of them seem tweaked out and have such shoddy speech patterns.

>>129971037
We also have the most powerful navy on earth. Not sure what you're driving at

>>129959337
>mars
>fun
Its a barren desert of a planet much farther away from earth than the moon. If anything the moon is more fun because of the lower gravity.

>>129971139


>https://forbes com/sites/robertglatter/2015/11/27/lsd-microdosing-the-new-job-enhancer-in-silicon-valley-and-beyond/#49c9a6fd188a
https://archive.is/EiyI8

>>129970958

I'm not German but I am rich. Fuck off with your spurious bantz.

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>>129966098
cutest 40yr old salaryman!

>>129970555
You can't (((inspire))) or fleece brainlets which such straight forward endeavors.

>>129971186

LSD helps you to dehallucinate.

>>129971021
Why make a separate landing? Landings are risky and burn a lot of fuel. It would be more efficient to just use the Moons gravity well to deflect trajectories. In many cases, it would be much simpler to have an orbital waystation in earth's orbit. Hopefully with a space elevator for efficient movement of supplies.

The moon would not be able to support such infrastructure without a ridiculous amount of capital injection. Everything is cheaper to build on the earth.

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>>129959337
Psh, the moon is too easy. Also, more gibmedats for Mars.

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elon's gonna need to move to mars by the time that bitch amber heard is through with him

Automated space ship factory on the moon first. Then we probe and mine every planet from there.

Simple order of operations.

We don't need humans to go anywhere.

>>129962525
Metals, terraforming gasses, and new engineering and material sciences, as you'll have to figure out how to make shit that wont fucking melt

>>129959956
The moon is a 72 hour trip. Mars is 180 days at best.

>>129971408

Born in pain on earth and you die in fear on earth. Those are your ultimate limits.

>>129971094
to be fair, there's nothing stopping other countries from joining us up there. China already wants to plant potatoes on the moon.

I'd say the bigger issue is that moon dust is like Asbestos on steroids, and the general lack of an atmosphere means constant bombardment from solar radiation to the fullest extent, which i imagine would create a fair amount of wear and tear over time on equipment and shit, compared to mars, which at least has the basics for a fairly livable planet, even if we need to walk with oxygen tanks outside. it has an atmosphere, and it has water, and it has actual soil, which while not really on the level of terrestrian dirt, is at least comparable to volcanic ash. (AKA we could theoretically find a way to plant shit in it)

>>129959337
Well yeah, if youre totally just making shit up, knowing full well we will never get to to either, you might as well choose Mars.

>>129971548

>We don't need humans to go anywhere.

...the old "I didn't want it anyhow" when it was never possible in the first place. Good stuff.

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>>129971673
I'm a stoic. So... this is fine.

>>129968501
mining asteriods is for building megastructures in space
The rare earths you could bring home, but the regular shit you keep up in space for construction

>>129971198
How many refugees do you have to house by being rich? Do your daughters have to give them an extra turn because you have the greater means to pay for the best OB/Gyn? Do you enjoy your wealth as the Angels of Merkel plunder your country?

You stink of the opportunist jew who lives in a land that does not belong to him and would sell his own grandmother for a shekel.

>>129959337
space is boring as fuck and may not even be real (from a solipsistic viewpoint). The real journey is to the outer limits of your consciousness.

>>129970909
in vacuum it is.

>>129961611
Exactly.

>>129971161
>We also have the most powerful navy on earth
In the 1417? No you didn't.

>>129971940
>mining asteriods is for building megastructures in space

What is the point of the megastructure and how does it return the investment of several quadrillion dollars?

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>>129969449
Dyson Swarm is the one we'd be building
a foggy cloud of O'Neil cylinder habitats and solar collectors

>>129971680

>I'd say the bigger issue is that moon dust is like Asbestos on steroids

Much bigger is the issue that you shan't father any children...but considering the flabby brained flight of fancy fagotry you've proffered this may be a good thing.

>>129970555
No minerals or other resources in antarctica
Mars has lots of ore to be harvested
also lower gravity, so I could build yuge there

>>129972130
The ultimate gated community. Elites will pay top dollar to literally not have to breath the same air as you

>>129971820
I guess if that's how you interpret it.

I'd rather start believing that planet Earth is the place we should be concerned about as demonstrated in the Paris treaty than give slack to the idea that signing up for a life prison sentence for the fate of humanity is any more valid.

>>129970329
You'd make stations, ships, and megastructures with it, what else?

>>129972374
>No minerals or other resources in antarctica
Trillions worth of clean water and gravel.

>>129972396
No they won't. It's too risky and they won't be able to afford it anyway. Nobody could.

>>129972557
No point to space infrastructure.

>>129971977

I'm at a m8's house he is also rich. We are 1000% awesome and 0% Jew. Whinge a bit more faggot.

>>129972374

Lots of moon rocks there. Quite the coincidence!

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>>129972638
define no point
do you mean that you cannot comprehend anything other than what furry porn you'll jack off to in the next half hour?

Mars is more hospitable but farther away.

>>129959337
Musk isn't doing shit except taking more money from taxpayers. Fuck him.

>>129972443

The Paris treaty was a scam. Pay the dumb to be sterilised. Anyone taking the loot deserves to dead end anyway.

>>129972806
There's no way to make money, so nobody will invest.

Asshole.

>>129972904

He is a titan of (((MIC))) bunk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=679GFNZGow0

>>129960488
The moon helium 3 idea was debunked years a go. There's literally no reason to go to the moon for research. It'd probably make a nice satellite station for laser communications or even a good place to build spacecraft in the future due to the low gravity and easy launch.

>>129971628
May as well fly into the sun. We don't have materials that will hold up under the Venusian atmosphere for any useful period of time.

>>129973801
No to both because of the dust.

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>>129973338
Rare earth elements are in high demand

Platinum group metals are beloved in industry

Tourism will always be a thing, so a hotel in space would get people flocking

Habitation is the next step for humanity, so real estate has potential

Energy sector can profit through the easily manufactured country sized solar arrays

Solar shades and mirrors would allow us to geoengineer earth itself, the ability to do so would be a very frequent work order

just because you're a short sighted high school dropout doesn't mean everyone else is

>>129973169
Yea, I mean the system of free money is there, but he who controls the proportions controls the wars.

>>129973898
Yeah the magnetic moon dust is a problem, but I doubt materials will be as metal dense in the future. Also there's the benefit of low gravity which means you just build up a few stories and suddenly you're no longer concerned with surface particulates.

>>129973886
Untrue
Atmospheric density is a thing
it is entirely possible to make hydrogen balloon lifted structures where it is thinner, and thus cooler
stations at the 101kpa area on venus are high school science exam tier engineering projects

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>>129959337

>Musk does admit, however, that current costs mean such a trip to Mars equates to some $10 billion per person. A cost he remains determined to lower by 5 million percent to “roughly equivalent to a median house price in the United States, which is around $200,000."

Lowering the price of something by 100% means it's free.

How exactly do you lower something's price by 5,000,000%?

>>129974228
You don't even need hydrogen. An earth atmosphere mix is a lifting gas in the Venusian atmosphere.

>>129959337
Neither because man will never set foot on either.

>>129974212

Proportion is always finite.....debt is not.

>>129973971
Short sighted nerd moron

>>129959337
Musk is sending two rich kikes around the moon next year to mark the 50th anniversary of Apollo 8. Personally I hope they have some kind of responsibilities like experiments to carry out or whatnot and they're not just a payload on an automated flight.

>>129974228
It's easy to drum up ideas about "how" to be there some short amount of time, but extended presence requires a surface to put things on. You're not going to have entire cities floating on clouds.

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>>129974923
you can though
if you need more space, add more balloons
seems asinine and overly simplistic, but it does actually work out that way

>>129973971
>Rare earth elements are in high demand
They'll cost more from orbit than from the ground.

>Platinum group metals are beloved in industry
Cost effectiveness is more loved.

>Tourism will always be a thing, so a hotel in space would get people flocking
Sure just like Antarctica right?

>Habitation is the next step for humanity, so real estate has potential
Habitation requires a niche for people living there to exploit. Space has none.

>Energy sector can profit through the easily manufactured country sized solar arrays
No means of transmitting the energy without losses rendering the venture pointless compared to ground installations.

>Solar shades and mirrors would allow us to geoengineer earth itself, the ability to do so would be a very frequent work order
No nation would ever allow another to posses a solar death ray. This isn't gundam.

>just because you're a short sighted high school dropout doesn't mean everyone else is
Dat projection.

>>129974697
Well sure debt is simply a variable in an equation.

Numbers carry weight at some point usually always at the bottom line.

You can have the most complex algorithm in the world but all you care about is what's after the equal sign, usually a single number, a score of some kind. The higher the better right?

>>129970305
>there aren't waiting lists of people who would like to go on this trip

>>129975652
>there are people who understand it'd be a horrible experience and you'd likely end up dying for absolutely nothing.

>>129975723
>(15)

Are you an investor or something, Anon.?

if you chose anything except Neptune you are a fucking faggot, you think our ocean has some mysterious fucking monsters in the bottom of it, imagine what Neptune has, aliens + monsters

imagine an underwater city
>bioshock's Rapture
>IN SPACE

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>>129975146
it doesn't actually cost all that much to get things down from orbit, so once mining stations are up and running, it will not be some insane feat for them to send shipments back to the spaceport to be sent down

There are some things that only platinum and rare earth elements can do in industrial settings, gold for example is vital in electronics, and platinum as a catalyst for certian reactions
plentiful access to these metals would allow such industries to thrive, as well as spawn new ones to discover new things these materials be used for

people don't go to antarctica because it's a frozen hellscape
a habitat in space would be an entirely artificial climate controlled structure, that could be built to mimic a tropical environment

The losses from such an array are infinitesimal, as the shear fucking amount of energy you would be able to gather from these massive arrays would render it a nonissue
even if losses were at 50%, you could just double the size for laughable cost, and ignore the losses completely

and lastly, a solar mirror is not a fucking death ray, it would be designed to focus light over a very large area, enough to warm it a slight bit, or a larger bit if many are focusing on the same spot, but using one as a weapon would be equal to shining 100 flashlights at someone to set them on fire

>>129975940
>if i yell loud enough that means i'm right

Not quite, Anon... Re-read the O.P.

>>129959337
>>129959956
>1 post by these ID

anyway, we can't go to the moon because we're not allowed back anymore by the ETs that occupy it.

>>129976093
what?

>>129975652

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwBOBrF4ukg

>>129976209
fuck ayys
rightful earth clay

Moonbase when?

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>>129959337
Since I make a shit load of money from Amazon, I guess I have to go with Bezos. Pity.

>>129976033
>t doesn't actually cost all that much to get things down from orbit
How many tons have we recovered from the orbit of the asteroid belt? A kilogram once?

>and platinum as a catalyst for certian reactions
plentiful access to these metals would allow such industries to thrive, as well as spawn new ones to discover new things these materials be used for
If cost wasn't a factor for things like that we'd be using silver for electric wires instead of copper.

>people don't go to antarctica because it's a frozen hellscape
a habitat in space would be an entirely artificial climate controlled structure, that could be built to mimic a tropical environment
>you can do it in space, obviously
>but having that on earth? impossible.
Fascinating. What other compartments do you keep your knowledge in?

>The losses from such an array are infinitesimal, as the shear fucking amount of energy you would be able to gather from these massive arrays would render it a nonissue
No the losses to the atmosphere are quite significant. No matter how big you make it a similarly sized one on the ground will generate more electricity because it won't have to microwave it through 100km of air first.

>and lastly, a solar mirror is not a fucking death ray, it would be designed to focus light over a very large area, enough to warm it a slight bit, or a larger bit if many are focusing on the same spot, but using one as a weapon would be equal to shining 100 flashlights at someone to set them on fire
Which will allow nations to cause droughts in other nations and cause mass death. Not even mentioning that the mirror would need to be dozens of kilometers in diameter to do that.

Science fiction is a blue pill. Wake up.

>>129976033
>antarctica because it's a frozen hellscape
>he calls that frozen hellscape
You didn't see Mars then.

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>>129976612
>we haven't sent things up
>this means we cannot send them down

>we don't use this expensive metal for things now
>therefore we cannot use it at all if it becomes abundant and cheap

>you cannot build something on the extremely thermally conductive earth
>therefore you cannot build it in the non-conductive vacuum of space

>a 10 meter solar panel is better than a 10 meter one in space
>so we shouldn't try to build the multiple 10 kilometer ones space would allow

and lastly
>other nations are going to sit idle while some chucklefuck very slowly wrecks a country
the UN treaty was to not send nuclear weapons into space, not no weapons at all, if China wants to use their panel to fuck the midwest U.S, that panel will eat a missile for their trouble, and they'll eat sanctions

there are problems, I have solutions, if they need tweaking, it is more than possible to do so

if sitting down with our thumbs in our asses, never even trying to accomplish anything is your view of what being redpilled is, than you have a very twisted view of being redpilled, for I don't see the non-achieving NEET life as a prosperous or enlightened one at all

go away with your worthlessness and take a lightning bath with a toaster, if "don't ever try" is your greatest piece of wisdom

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>>129977325
Mars has little atmosphere, thus the only way you're losing heat is into the ground, and by radiating it away
Insulation would be more than able to stop this, just like it does on earth, just even more effectively

Mars may be cold, but that doesn't matter much if you have nothing to actually pull that heat away from you

>>129978034
>we haven't sent things up
>this means we cannot send them down
You said it was cheap when you base that on nothing.


>we don't use this expensive metal for things now
>therefore we cannot use it at all if it becomes abundant and cheap
It won't be cheaper when you get it from orbit.

>you cannot build something on the extremely thermally conductive earth
>therefore you cannot build it in the non-conductive vacuum of space
Yes heat is the biggest issue in space. But you're becoming incoherent so i'm only partially sure that's what you meant.

>a 10 meter solar panel is better than a 10 meter one in space
>so we shouldn't try to build the multiple 10 kilometer ones space would allow
Right because if you built the same thing on the ground you would generate more electricity which is the point.

>he UN treaty was to not send nuclear weapons into space, not no weapons at all, if China wants to use their panel to fuck the midwest U.S, that panel will eat a missile for their trouble, and they'll eat sanctions
Good thing nobody is ever going to make one.

>I have solutions
The less you know the more answers you have.

>if sitting down with our thumbs in our asses, never even trying to accomplish anything is your view of what being redpilled is
Calm down grandma. Just because your storybooks aren't coming true doesn't mean it's the end of the world.

>go away with your worthlessness and take a lightning bath with a toaster, if "don't ever try" is your greatest piece of wisdom, m'lady
lol

>>129972292
>shan't
>saying shit about anyone else

>>129978400
You don't want to insulate in space. You need to get rid of that heat.

>>129978895
the post was about structures on mars, not orbital stations

>>129979444
Either way. You don't want to insulate.

>>129979532
Nah, just insulate with non-combustible, non-flammable material like dirt.

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>>129978727
Space metals would be cheap because of how much you would have
these are not projects where you only gain 100 kilograms of gold per lone multi-mile asteroid, you would be obtaining literal millions of tonnes of it, and every other rare metal per large asteroid
and with asteroids being loose balls of gravel, not solid rock, mining such things would purely be a matter of hauling chunks of it to the refinery station

>Right because if you built the same thing on the ground you would generate more electricity which is the point.
The point is that you cannot build such a structure on the ground, but you can in space, as well as making multiple ones, and larger ones
The effectiveness is moot when the former is outclassed by simple scale

and the last grand bit
>never going to make one
says who, fuckboi

faggots said heavier than air flight was impossible, as they did spaceflight, and everything behind back to the bronze age and before

challenges exist, and it is scientifically possible to achieve them, and thus they will be done, and no amount of bitching will stop that

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Remember the last time we tried to colonize something?

>>129959956
Mars has no magnetic field. Its dead. Why go to dead world when he have one already so close by?

>>129968135

>muh asteroids

The value of "precious" metals is derived from the fact that they aren't very common.

What the fuck do you think will happen to the price of these metals if you bring in more metal than exists on the entire fucking planet?

>>129981559
the same thing that happened to aluminum
it will stop being some metal for flair, and become something for industry to use the shit out of

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>>129978727
Much of the modern technology we enjoy today is thanks to research done during the Apollo programs. Strives need to be made on earth before they can be made in space. National pride and the pursuit of advancement is what spurred many countries to join the space race in the 60's. Back then cars were still using carburetors and we landed men on the moon. What we could accomplish with modern technology, if only we had the manpower and resources, is astonishing.
Space exploration and colonization isn't logical in the current business climate, but in the spirit of our ancestors we must explore for the spirit of mankind and the betterment of man.

>>129981427
Mars will be the second space ship factory that will construct interstellar drones.

>>129982079
>but in the spirit of our ancestors we must explore for the spirit of mankind and the betterment of man.
Ancestors sat on their dicks until sea travel cots crushed through the floor and only then started exploration and colonization.

>>129959337
Well for one someone needs to be the test subject for these new planets. If I get like an arcade machine all plugged in with 20K games and lifetime supply of my food I be set along with shitposting on 4 chan.

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>>129959337
Mars is VASTLY more difficult to get to. Even at perihelion (closest approach to earth), it's about 55,700,000 km away, versus about 300,000 km to the moon. The rocket equation means that it's not feasible to build a rocket that can carry enough fuel, you'd have to launch pieces of it into orbit then assemble it there, plus fuel it somehow - all insanely expensive. Then if you want the astronauts to ever come back, you'd better have sent a robotic mission ahead years ago to mine and synthesise fuel. Oh, and also they'll all die or at least go insane on the journey unless you can somehow shield them from cosmic rays. Plus Mars is difficult for even robots to land on successfully, since its thin atmosphere makes aerobraking ineffective. The list goes on.

Also Musk is kind of a charlatan who has achieved much of his success through government gibs. That's not to say he doesn't have actual skills and SpaceX have done some cool stuff lately, but he fancies himself to be an IRL Tony Stark who can do literally anything just because he succeeded in different areas. In particular his "hyperloop" makes no economic sense, and their projected costings for building it are a complete fantasy waaaay lower than they'd actually be.

https://pedestrianobservations.com/2013/08/13/loopy-ideas-are-fine-if-youre-an-entrepreneur/

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>>129967808
>Bobbing along on the surface of hell, praying 24/7 that nothing goes wrong and drops you into it
>Sensible
>Comfortable

I mean you're just as dead if you're living in an asteroid habitat that breaches to vacuum, but psychologically the venus scenario is more terrifying somehow.

>>129974923
Energy can be harvested analogously to geothermal by simply suspending pipes below the platform into the hotter layers below.

Materials for enlargement of the platform could conceivably be limited to just whats in the atmosphere: Sulfurcrete and polymers could probably meet the majority of needs.

Heavy metals could realistically be imported via asteroid mining assuming the majority of needs are met by the above.

By the time you have massive cities, surely the inhabitants would simply devise some method of mining the surface.