Postmodernism

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>>129956868
Low IQ Fluid Gender Blue Gen Ztards getting ready to shit everything up their ancestors gave them.

>>129957452
*Blue Haired

>>129956868
>What is it?
Dysgenics.

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>>129956868
A fashion accessory

Shitposting as an outraged kang because you're bored.

>>129956868
>remembers when post-modern used to be hyphenated, and used to refer to a time when literature was written. le sigh.

Postmodernism is cancer.

>>129957731
essplain REAL post-modern philosophy then please

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>>129957452
That's postmodernity, not postmodernism.
>>129956868
An umbrella term for the architectural, artistic, philosophical notions and critique of the postmodern era. Not to be confused with the (((poststructuralism))) of the Frankfurt School.

>>129956868
>OH MY REASON! MARX'S PREDICTIONS WERE WRONG!!
>Why do workers have political views against their own interests? Are they retarded?
>Oh, no, they are not retarded. It's the SYSTEM! which is built in such a way that they're completely brainwashed and don't question the fact they are constantly going against their interests.
>MUST. CRUSH. SYSTEM.

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>>129956868
I think the early issues of Wired were postmodern. Seinfeld was postmodern. Don't know what else.

>>129956868
When someone says:
>I can do what I want, it doesn't affect you.

>>129956868
Basically that traditions and meaning from the past are useless because you can yourself assign any meaning to anything that you want. Nothing has any inherent meaning or purpose outside of what you understand it to be or mean.

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>>129956868
Symptom 14 according to their own rules
http://www.lacan.com/symptom14/what-lacan.html

dugin rants about it a lot.

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>>129957943
Wow, he isn't saying what you think he's saying. You watch alot of Jordan Peterson, don't you?
Retards will retard.

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>>129957769
The definition hasn't changed.
>>129958149
That's called Marxism, you idiot.
Can't you at least try and be consistent?

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>>129958643
Wow...a non idiot.

>>129958043
I fuckin love this
The guy in the right panel should be holding a sculpture of a paintbrush instead of a paintbrush though

>>129958643

This dude nails it well

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>>129959356
I knew that English degree would come in useful one day

Pic related: a post modern think tank

>>129958992
then what is he REALLY saying?

>>129956868
A fancy way of saying there is no "right" or "wrong". Just different perspectives on things.

>>129957747
How weak these people must feel to take photos like this. I could not imagine any of the girls fighting a man armed with a similar implement. Do they believe this, or is it just larping?

>>129956868
It's the true enemy.

Not LGBT, blacks, or orthodox marxists. Everyone hates postmodernists. Even trans people are starting to hate them.

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>>129960508
That Peterson doesn't understand postmodernism (especially since he frequently espouses it in the same breath as reviling it). You clearly disagree, which accounts for your uppity nignog response.

>>129956868
Divide and Conquer

>>129956868
Societal decay

Shitposting on /pol/.

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>>129957943
Read this and quit asking for handouts

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>>129957731
this is the most retarded fucking picture I've seen on here. Please sort yourself out communist faggot

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>>129960544
Closer, but anon already solved this little mystery. It's the concept that we can't really know anything outside of meaning, and that meaning is applied to things (things are DENOTED) by us-- and it follows that without giving the meaning to said things, the attributes we're told denote said things only give a limited and incomplete understanding, and thus prevents true knowledge of thing; hence why things "change", even apparently static concepts. Because people try and attribute their own meanings to things, in order to comprehend them. Anon put it much more simpler and concise, though, and i'm just expanding on what was already said, to help clear things up. But it's really not so simple as "postmodernism means like there is no truth or right or wrong, there just IS, man". No, that's just hippie talk.

the swapping of our perception of reality from objective to subjective

>>129956868


premodern = truth is inherent, natural, divine, etc

modern = truth is discovered through the application of reason, scientific method, rational thought, etc

postmodern = truth is created and valued according to its utility, ie "untrue" things can be truth so long as that truth has value (irrational numbers for example)

>>129956868
>What is it?
The real question is what is Google?

>>129956868
new-left bullshit.

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https://youtu.be/Cf2nqmQIfxc

Sort yourself out bukko!

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>>129961265
You are an offended idiot. LOL

>>129956868
The belief that tradition means nothing and that modern day edgy beliefs are the way to go

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Its nothing to fear goy

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>infinite interpretations can be derived from text
>therefore infinite interpretations can be derived from the world and objective truth is a unicorn
>relativism for everyone one! no one is right no one is wrong don't argue or else you're engaging in a power struggle

As I understand it.

>>129956868

shit

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>>129961389
Again, subtle close, but still vastly misunderstanding the concept, a la Peterson, the Christcuck.
>>129961438
>postmodern = truth is created and valued according to its utility, ie "untrue" things can be truth so long as that truth has value

There anons, a more accurate picture is being drawn for you minute by minute.

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>>129961502
It's funny to see how a supposedly intelligent man can be so confused and uppity all at the same time about his own beliefs.

>>129961505
and you're a faggot that needs to kill themselves, please go back to whatever cesspool you came from

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>>129961493
Only an uneducated idiot could think that. Just do a little reading. Leftism has nothing to do with postmodernism, and it certainly isn't new.

>>129958992
Answer the question dumb fuck

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>>129961667
Only retarded people do the power struggle argument in that way. Power struggle is GOOD. It's the bond of all relationships. I'm gonna go cuck some fuck now, and that power struggle is immense, control over two individuals instead of just one! (Not really, but just making a point about relationships, and not very subtle.) And the infinite interpretations thing...that's not it either...that is simply Gadamer-ian hermeneutics.

>>129956868
>Objective reality does not exist
>Logic and reason are obsolete
>All human activity is a power struggle
>Humans ought to concede to the groupthink of the identity to which they feel they belong and act in their self-interest
>Most societal institutions work in the interest of straight white males, and thus should be dismantled
>Do not engage in dialogue, as dialogue is simply another construct meant to benefit the straight white male

>>129956868
Sounds like something a jewish social anthropologist made up.

>>129961774
Jesus died for our sins so if we don't sin he died for nothing!

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>>129962016
You're seriously unable to back up anything you say, aren't you? (Pic related)
>>129962115
Already did, shitlips.
>>129962643
Wrong again.
>>129962788
Yeah, a single Jew invented everything wrong with the world, his name is Jesus.

>>129962643
>Objective reality does not exist
>All human activity is a power struggle
>Humans ought to concede to the groupthink of the identity to which they feel they belong and act in their self-interest

I agree with these, the rest can fuck off and die in a hole though

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>>129962927
Flawless logic flowing from a true wellspring of genius.

>>129961774
Fuck off you pretentious cunt.

>>129956868
Advanced triplenigger ebonics

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>>129963284
I'm not the retard who conflates SJW postmodernity with a philosophic theory borne from decades ago, that has nothing to do with
>Most societal institutions work in the interest of straight white males, and thus should be dismantled
>Do not engage in dialogue, as dialogue is simply another construct meant to benefit the straight white male
>Logic and reason are obsolete

You people have been eating up Peterson's shit, just like always, /pol/ lapping up bullshit cause it sounds good to you. Postmodernity in action!

>>129963055
Should all Kekistani flag users be branded as Reddit shabbos goyim?

>>129961438
kek this couldn't be more wrong, that would imply that postmodernists would say that things like religion and morality are true which is the opposite of what they do

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>>129963523
The classic thinkers in Greece diddle kids, and roved about naked, drunk on watered down swill wine.

Contrary to popular belief, postmodernism isn't causing society to rot, it's simply trying to explain the rot that's happening on its own.

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>>129963801
>they
>plebbit retard assumes self-proclaimed feminist "postmodernist" SJWs are actually studied in anything but Gender Studies
>doesn't fathom this post with conflation of poststructualism and postmodernism
>could do with more education or age

>>129956868

Garbage

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>>129956868
Degradation into a uniform amorphous mediocre type - the "rhizomatic" schizomass.

>>129964266
Fuck it's been a while since I've seen this comic

>>129960806
In any group of trans folk a bunch will be postmodern inclined because it provides a scapegoat to ignore their own problems and a school of thought that they think accepts them. In any trans group there will also be a few silent people who have more absolute hate towards postmodernism than any pol user.

They can see that they are being used by it for it's own agenda. They can see it reinforcing the worst behaviors. They can see it stopping wider society from accepting them. And they recognize that the goal of postmoderism as relates to trans people isn't "a female brain in a male body should be regarded as female". That would be a modernist assertion of biology causing gender. Rather post modernist fetishize and use trans people as the first step to trying to eliminate gender as a concept entirely. That's why it's "identify as" instead of "am". That why post modernist recoil at research into for a biological marker to see if someone will be trans. But it doesn't matter because if thr trans people who see this point that out than they are hated by both the in group and the out group.

Postmodernism is a fucking cancer holding back progress. It will undue centuries of hard labor.

>>129959256
This is where I call bullshit. The non-hyphenated, new word "postmodern" means something entirely different now. Gone are the days of applying it to art.

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>>129963768
LOL. Whatever you think is good to think, you go ahead, there's no need to justify this with any further reply. Keep getting your ass handed to you.
>>129963983
Indeed. Peterson explains this all very well,...just unintentionally, and by example, all while misapprehending his own postmodernist thought with something "more", and yet simply undefinable. Call it Postmodernist Christian Philosophy. Conflate gender studies SJW crap with postmodernism (cause you can) and watch the gorms imbibe.
>>129964578
At least you've made an argument. yes, it's changed. Things change. Doesn't mean the concept of postmodernism has, though, it simply has more gainsay to level at reality, especially thanks to the fools whom A: conflate postmodernism with poststructualism (and then refuse to research what is told them, in lieu of ad homs to save their skin, and B: retards who proclaim themselves to be postmodernists, when they are really either just a dumb millennial who doesn't comprehend the difference between the philosophy of postmodernism (the art, the literature, the philosophical) with the notion of postmodernity (muh 300 genders, muh oppression, muh equality, muh multiculturalism, ect)--- OR they are dumb teacher (a la Peterson) who conflates the two for the dumb pleb millennials.

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>>129956868
a death sentence

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Come one guys, what is wrong with you? Why has no one posted this yet?

http://www.stephenhicks.org/explaining-postmodernism/
>Explaining Postmodernism: Skepticism and Socialism from Rousseau to Foucault By Stephen R. C. Hicks, Professor of Philosophy
>free pdf and audioversion

Very good book honestly and very condensed. Also Jordan Peterson approved.

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>>129965456
>posts wiki of Western Canon andtries to pass it off as postmodernism
Postmodernism=/=Poststructualism
You prevaricating fuck. Marxist thought pervades Poststructualism, as that is what the theory is based on, but postmodernism isn't just a theory. I know I'm throwing pearls before swine here, but what can you do.

>>129956868
What's the difference between post-modernism and nihilism? They seem quite similar to me.

>>129964578
It refers to a time in history as well as an art movement, same as "modernism".

Really the postmodern era is over now. I say it ended at 9/11. This is why SJWs are desperate and look ridiculous, they're desperately trying to preserve a dead ideology.

Postmodernism is the mindset of the post-WWII west (and post-Communist left). Modernism was associated with fascism and communism, totalitarianism. Modernism was associated with a certain optimism in utopian destiny of technological man. But that led to totalitarianism, so postmodernism was a skepticism towards that attitude. But skepticism as your entire worldview is self-defeating, paralyzing.

So new movement in reactionary tries to solve the problem from a different angle. Instead of being vaguely skeptical towards modernism while still trying to preserve many tenets of modernism, we go back to before modernism, to classicism or traditionalism. I don't know if this is doable either since no real examples of the new reactionaries have taken power. The problem is you can't really go back. You can't uninvent technologies, you can't undo mass communications and so on.

>>129965895
yeah man you got some real insights like
>>129963877
wow ur so smart I'm glad you've even tried to define it in this thread even once instead of just shitposting 18 times about how smart you are.

>>129962091
>Leftism has nothing to do with postmodernism
It just so happens that the majority of postmodern philosophers were radical leftists.
Foucalt was a memeber of the Communist Party in France, Lytoard did work for "Socialisme ou Barbarie", Derrida associated closely with a group focused around Tel Quel (a far left journal), Rorty cites Socialist Party candidates and union leaders as his greatest heroes...
Just pure coincidence, the philosophy has absolutely nothing to do with radical leftwing politics though.

>>129966094
Post-modern was the birth of self-reflective metafiction, which basically took a big giant SHIT upon identity politics or heard-mentality politics before it became the big crybaby monster we see today.

>>129956868

10000000000 genders

this is why postmodernism is stupid

>>129956868
Disingenuous concern trolling masked as moral outrage.

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>>129965686
Also complete ninnery. Anyone can write a book, you absolutely gormless faggots. Take it from the people here who know what the fuck they are talking about...Hicks' book doesn't comprehend postmodernism. Egalitarianism? Maybe of a sort, not that that denies individualism; but it's certainly not complete equality, not universal equality, because that is antithetical to the notion of ideas being able to compete, which is core to postmodernism. Epistemology? Do you even know what that means? Social subjectivism is Ayn Randian crap that is no espoused in postmodernism. Metaphysics? Postmodernists deny metaphysics as reality? And so many people like to say Kant was a preeminent postmodernist. But no, again, a blanket assumption. On human nature, yeah, that's about right, we make up the world through the war of ideas and of economy and of power, why do you think the power elite got where they are...they wouldn't be there if it wasn't for this general rule. God did not give his will, or at least, it's not in evidence. In the economic realm there is also disagreement, so no again for the socialism- there alot of non-socialists whom would ascribe (probably unwittingly) to postmodernist thought. Why oh why must you fags have such low ability to comprehend forms of thought? It's baffling.

>>129966530
That literary movement was related to the SJW movement. The "all viewpoints are equally valid" or "there's no ultimate valid narrative" idea leads to "how do we implement this in reality? we must raise up the viewpoints that people scorn, since those viewpoints are equally valid but are being treated as worse"

Look at the Sot-Weed Factor, classic postmodern novel, it mocks a classic story of American history and turns it into a gross sexual farce. It's typical thing that SJWs would love.

>>129967043
This is where I admit I am lost. I see le SJWs slinging "postmoderism" around as though it is a modern movement to make any belief or behavior legitimate. Your prior posts confuse me. I admit I am here mainly to bitch about how some of my favorite literature is now in hindsight with writers dead being politicized.

In other words, the slippery slope of hyper-individualism as Panacea, instead of dead end..
atomization of humans AND values into fungible units.

>>129966926
Sorry.

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>>129966441
Foucault was poststructualist (denigrator of society-critical theorist), so you're missing the mark in not identifying that fact. Derrida is a deconstructionist (bloviator) and hence isa bit of an idiot. Rorty is OK. And yes, Lytoard and him proclaimed socialism -- i'll give you that, it's a fact, but that doesn't conflate the two concepts (postmodernism and socialism) together, as you said.
>Just pure coincidence, the philosophy has absolutely nothing to do with radical leftwing politics though.
>>129967457
Good, you`re approaching freedom.

>>129957731
KIKE

>>129958212
I like watching (((Seinfeld))).

postmodernism basically means "lets ignore science"

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>>129967043
In order to knock down bad ideas. Also you read the Sot-Weed Factor and took it literally and personally? You're part of the problem, plebbit.

>>129965686
Literally triggered by the pre modern definitions. Enlightenment was a mistake.

>>129967682
Completely unironically: What books or writers would you recommend on postmodernism?

>>129958666
>digits
All those confirmed satanic

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>>129967488
It's always been that way. Your values have always been traded. They were traded all across the western hemisphere, but not before being assimilated by Rome.

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>>129956868
bad

>>129958643
Thiiis

>>129956868
Jewish

>>129956868
nobody knows

>>129958992
Peterson is mainstream? Shit, I cant be a n-normie

>>129961438
Dont listen to the replies, this is accurate af

>>129967796
>liking a show about nothing

>>129956868
Whatever you want it to be. Your feelings determine reality.

>>129967682
What???? Who are those people???? Seriously. I am talking about literature.

>>129966926
My fucking sides

>>129963801
they worship gender ideology and other garbage instead.

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>Do words have any Meaning?

Think of the mindlessness of that question. If words don't have any meaning what did the question mean?

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>>129967921
Martin Heidegger, Ludwig Wittgenstein, Wilfrid Sellars, Edmund Husserl -- the prevalent ideas come from here. Really postmodernism isn't even the current theory being assembled, that'd be post-postmodernism, like Ken Wilber.

It should be noted that postmodernism itself is becoming dated nowadays. In recent decades there has been a partial return to some of the ideas of modernism.

In a larger sense the real trend in western culture has been a back and forth love affair with science and technology and with "reason" applied to human affairs more generally. The transitions between these periods are based on a combination of major scholarly works, technological transformations, and important historical events. The Enlightenment gave way to a counter-Enlightenment that produced Romanticism, which gave way to Modernism, then Post-Modernism. And now you can almost feel things starting to turn back towards an almost positivist direction. It is being driven by the information age, by the perceived urging necessity of climate science, and by advancements in genetics.

I suspect in the long run the scientists will prevail over the romantics. We are headed towards a technopoly. Science will prevail over nature, and in doing so man himself will be transformed into something new.

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>>129969261
Words are DENOTED meaning.

>>129956868
The willful destruction of Western culture.

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>>129969730
You're actually dumb, and just don't realize it.

Im going to scream about how you guys don't understand postmodernism, bait you into guessing what it is based on my pseudointellectial responses, and scream even louder at your continued guesses.

T. (((postmodernist)))

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>>129968738
Thomas Pynchon.

>>129956868
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair

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>>129970423
LOL. Laughably dumb. Postmodernism evolved out of modernism which evolved out of post- and pre-enlightenment philosophy, which evolved out of classicism. They all stem from one another, you dolt. If you can't understand one, you can't understand the other. Clearly you fall on the more idiotic side of the spectrum.

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>>129969649
>>129969649

"But the new rebel is a skeptic, and will not entirely trust anything. He has no loyalty; therefore he can never be really a revolutionist. And the fact that he doubts everything really gets in his way when he wants to denounce anything. For all denunciation implies a moral doctrine of some kind; and the modern revolutionist doubts not only the institution he denounces, but the doctrine by which he denounces it. Thus he writes one book complaining that imperial oppression insults the purity of women, and then he writes another book in which he insults it himself. He curses the Sultan because Christian girls lose their virginity, and then curses Mrs. Grundy because they keep it. As a politician, he will cry out that war is a waste of life, and then, as a philosopher, that all life is waste of time. A Russian pessimist will denounce a policeman for killing a peasant, and then prove by the highest philosophical principles that the peasant ought to have killed himself. A man denounces marriage as a lie, and then denounces aristocratic profligates for treating it as a lie. He calls a flag a bauble, and then blames the oppressors of Poland or Ireland because they take away that bauble. The man of this school goes first to a political meeting, where he complains that savages are treated as if they were beasts; then he takes his hat and umbrella and goes on to a scientific meeting, where he proves that they practically are beasts. In short, the modern revolutionist, being an infinite skeptic, is always engaged in undermining his own mines. In his book on politics he attacks men for trampling on morality; in his book on ethics he attacks morality for trampling on men. Therefore the modern man in revolt has become practically useless for all purposes of revolt. By rebelling against everything he has lost his right to rebel against anything.' (G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy, 1909)

>>129966926
I remember when I was a cunty underclass undergraduate philosophy student. Don't worry, anon, it'll all be okay. Just understand that if you leave academia no one is going to give two shits about your hyper pedantic, unnecessarily granular approach no matter how pretentious and multi-syllabic your assertions are.

>>129956868
A neon sign

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Thing is there are too many philosophers in the kitchen these days. No one should listen to anyone if they believe everything someone says, just because it sounds "impressive". When one can't think for themselves, you've already lost.
>>129971265
Quit school long time ago, nigger.
>>129971221
Nice quote, nigger. Unbridled skepticism is a fine trait, but if it's unchecked, and is simply rebellious and contrarian simply for the sake of being recalcitrant, it's not really skepticism, but being an hardheaded autist. There is a difference, afterall, between a skeptic and being skeptical.

But how does the process of reversing values (just because you think theyre unfairly treated) knock down bad ideas? It's not being critical its just being inherently anti status quo.

The idea that presence is parasitic is retarded and dangerous.

>>129969499
yeah, technology is something you can't resist, can't undo, and rationality, when it's used correctly, is always right.

but there's a sense (and postmodernism realizes this along with previous romanticist movements) that this isn't good. maybe not evil, but not good either. it's just something we're forced into. we can't even conclude that we live happier lives due to it, due to things like hedonic treadmill and useless knowledge leading to anxiety and suffering over things we'd previously ignore, ennui, etc.

and as we make technology, technology makes us. we're in the position of biological beings forced to live in unnatural states, as we're being remade by forces that we thought were under our control. it's actually hellish.

Overly wordy.

>>129964372
The ugliest car fucking car ever, hands down. I remember when it came out and people unironically liked it. I felt like everyone was playing a huge inside joke on me by buying this car.

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Here's a good example of what postmodernism is.

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>>129972513
I'll tell you: It exposes them to the light of day. That's how. I do believe that bad ideas do, inevitably, bring themselves to light, by their mere existence. You might say "Feminism is cancer", and you might be right...feminism (for example) has been a 'thing' for longer than contemporary postmodernism or even dated decades old holdover postmodernism; and my point is that Feminism, being given the light of day, as inevitably exposed itself as the blight that it's destined to be, without said reversing the values that led to it in the first place. Get it? There is just one example. No, not all "postmodernists" are fucking intelligent, some are dumb cucks, there are feminist bitches, there are stark-raving mad idiots-- point is there, it that not all supposedly intelligent people are always right...see Jordan Peterson. Someone whom I generally agree with, but when he starts talking about (and conflating) postmodernism, and confusingly bumbling around rhetorically, trying to espouse his humble Christian thought (he's living proof that Christcucks can be intelligent as fuck), I just have to laugh...

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>>129973845
and not because I hate the guy and want to rebel, but because see his conflation, and I see why he goes it, even if it's unintentional-- he wants to return to old ways and he's trying to find a way to summarize this thought he has, in order to espouse it, and teach it; he is a pedagogue, afterall. This is what he does for a living. Thing is, he mixes up shit, and then he tries to explain things away using something akin (though not as daft) as Prager's "muh objective morality from God". Peterson's philosophy is less pretentious though, he's simply anti-marxist, conflates Marxism (ie, poststructualism, often confused for postmodernism, which is also almost always confused for POSTMODERNITY [all different terms, look them up], which is a mistake) with the aforementioned, and then he tries to predicate his self-proclaimed superior thought through a Christian lens (identitarian politics for the win, go postmodernism?); a cultural christianity, with admittedly fine views.

>>129956868
A meme philosophy that is decades old yet people are just finding out about it now because they don't read

>>129956868
Postmodernism is the teenage rebellion of civilization. It is a phase of questioning everything we learned up until this point. Much of what we (collectively as a species) learned is truth, more or less, but there is some untruth there. This phase is intended to discover the untruth, and to consciously understand the truth that we have already taken for granted.

For those playing the home game, post modernism is literally just the reaction to modernism, the thought that comes after/through reflections on modernism.

parts of the Internet are more or less post-post-modernism but there are so many retards with so little initiative to learn anything, that actually shifting gears is slow and there are still plenty of mental children who may never move beyond modernism (let alone post-modernism)

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>>129973845
>being given the light of day, has inevitably exposed itself as the blight that it's destined to be, without said reversing the values that led to it in the first place. Get it?

I hate when I don't complete my thought; I meant, "without said reversing the values that led to it in the first place", that is to say, without the premise, first, of the process of said "reversal", Feminism would be precluded from postmodernist thought, and it would also be unable to be reversed. I am just clarifying, I don't think I worded what I was trying to say, to the best of my ability.

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>>129974363
No.
>>129974300
Yes.

Where reason and logic go to die. It's when you have finally admitted the state is your god and as such need a philosophy based in contradictions and faith in order to justify your insane beliefs

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>>129974979
You should get a brain. It'd be good, trust me.

>>129956868
Post Modernism ended in the 90s.

>THE MORE YOU KNOW!™

Peterson makes a good point about the Soviet Union and the thought processes and legislation which led to the gulags. I'm not so confident that just because I now have the ability to see shitty ideas that were once hidden, that others will think and feel the same. And firearms just mean when they kick in your door you'll take some down with you before you're killed.

>>129958212
>Seinfeld was postmodern.
Pfft, superior "Pee Wee's Playhouse" was Post Modern.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7J-o4oSy_E

Culture killer.

>>129956868
Basically Jewish relitivism. Muh Bantu tribe is just as worthy as Mozart of study

>>129966926
Everything you typed goes into the trash with that flag faggot

>>129966530
Damn, missed this; exactly, anon.

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>>129967833
>>129967043
Also, "that literary movement" has NOTHING to do with critical theory and poststructuralism, it can't be stated enough, because people are retarded, you included. Look it up. Understand. Comprehend. Don't prance around like a tit.
>>129976406
Good. Retards like you cannot be disabused of their retardicity, and do not deserve knowledge.
>>129976655
PS: Read 'em and weep.

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>>129977187
>off by one
>35 posts by this ID
I think it's time to take a break bucko.

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>>129977852
Nice flow chart. Dude, Peterson is sooooooo smart. Color me jealous.

>>129965960
Nihilism = nothing matters, let's just wreck it all on purpose

Postmodernism was really cold-war angst leading to re-examination of anything and everything present in Western culture. Unfortunately it was hyper-critical of civic nationalism and community. It mistakenly relegated many virtuous things to being "cliche" or obsolete.

It opened the door for cultural marxism and anarcho-everything which are all just reverse racism toward whites.

>>129979876
>Postmodernism was really cold-war angst leading to re-examination of anything and everything present in Western culture.
finally someone who understands.