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Donald Trump is now under investigation

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/robert-mueller-donald-trump/index.html

Mueller just put Trump in check.
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>>129948317
Archived https://archive.is/LhJT6
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>>129948317

so?
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Conflict of interest, and leaks. Mueller must be shut down, he is politicizing this investigation.
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>>129948373
Thanks Sven.
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The neocons/neolibs are going to keep flinging shit until something sticks. These investigations stink of corruption.
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if Trump had kept is fucking mouth shut he wouldn't be. hilarious watching people who think he's playing 4 dimensional chess, he's just fucking up the way only a 71 year old landlord whose over his head can.
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>>129948317
Wow another failed dem bitchfit campaign in the works.

This sure looks great for them. What will they fuck up next I wonder?
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(((special counsel)))
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>>129948835
Kept his mouth shut, you know this is a setup right. There is nothing Trump can do. Mueller's investigation will take at least 4 years, 8 if Trump gets re-elected. This is political bullshit, not an actual investigation.
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>>129948835
>keeps fucking up
>also became president
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>>129948500
>>129948674
>>129948894
And you think his investigation is not valid because...?
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Hasn't he been under investigation since he said he was running for president? Like christ just admit you can't find anything damning enough. This is getting embarrassing already.
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Good. Trump yanked his chain and Mueller over reacted. Why couldn't "ind" Muller show more restraint and not leak?
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Anonymous sources from Washington Post, try again OP faggot.
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>>129949353

>MUH GOD EMPEROR

That's why
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>>129949263
The world we live in.
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>>129949353

Because shit stinks and can be smelled from far away. Look at who is involved in this farce. The Russian narrative was used as a political tool to shut up enemies, and now this is just furtherance of their agenda. I do not buy it.
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>>129949353
A complete absence of any crime or evidence of a crime.
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>>129949649
>>129949711
Where is your evidence?

You do realize the FBI has more complete information about Trump's behavior than what is publicly available right?
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>>129950380
I haven't trusted the FBI since they murdered 18 children at WACO, but I'm sure they're great people. lmao
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>>129950380
Ohhh shit!

Trump btfo for good this time!
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>>129950626
>>129950911
not an argument
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>>129950380

And they probably have dirt on many other politicians that will never be released to the public. They control the context, and I do not trust them. Why would you?
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>>129948317
>Anonymous sources say
no thanks
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>>129950380
>You do realize the FBI has more complete information about Trump's behavior than what is publicly available right?
Did your anonymous insider sources tell you that?
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>>129951060

No, but true nonetheless, as well as being quite funny.
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>>129950380
>the FBI
they aren't investigating trump tho
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>>129948429
>s-s-so?
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>>129948317
>>no evidence whatsoever at any time ever
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>>129950380
How about asking a subordinate FBI director to "let go" of an ongoing investigation? Surely that would be obstruction of justice for any other president before this one. I'm not convinced that Donald is smart enough to realize he tried to obstruct justice and there possible a way to use that as a defense.

The evidence is said FBI director testifying under oath to those facts. If you don't think that's evidence, you need to reevaluate what you honk evidence is.
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>>129949353
Mueller is close friends with Comey, he has to recuse himself from the Obstruction of Justice investigation. This is totally improper on the part of Mueller. Mueller wants Trump to fire him.
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>>129949353
>wow just because the democrats have fabricated every lie and consiracy theory to explain how they got btfo so hard up to this point doesn't mean they are still doing it with this latest story that has absolutely no evidence whatsoever
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>>129948317
Open/Shut case. There was no obstruction.
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>>129950380
They do, and they said before election day that they found no evidence of collusion between Trump and the Russians, and Trump and the hackers.
No evidence found.
Let that sink in.
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I'm so goddam fed up with all this fucking bullshit. Trump needs to go scorched earth on these motherfuckers.
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>>129951060
It is an argument, actually. You are using the reputation and practices of the FBI as a defense for why you have no evidence of a crime, or even an idea of what crime you think happened. The reputation of the FBI is garbage. Its a garbage agency staffed by garbage people. At no point in memory has the FBI conducted itself in a manner deserving of any respect what-so-ever.
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>>129948317
"obstruction of justice" aka they have jack shit on russia and now are trying to pin this on him. lel, lame as shit if you ask me, this is their whole hand their throwing at trump so early, i think theyre going to regret this.
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>>129951060
You have to make a good argument if you want an argument for a response.
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>>129948373
Reminder to report bots.

>>129948568
...or at very least not talk to them like an idiot.
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Give Dems a break, this hoax is all they have.
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>>129951585
My thoughts exactly
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>>129951819
Shut up fag, you homos should be archiving clickbait websites anyways, he's just doing your job for you
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>>129948317
>Five people briefed on the requests, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly, said that
>Five people...not authorized to discuss the matter

What a fucking shitshow.
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>>129951628

There wasn't, until he fired Comey and said to Holt in a public interview it was over the Russia investigation. Reports about the counsel today stated as such.
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>>129951557
>i hope
Ftfy
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This is pretty much the GOP shitting their pants after the shooting and blaming Trump for all of angry people who want to off them and their families.

That and them being royally pissed off at Trump for stopping them from scamming people with their shitty health bill.
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>>129951557
t. internet lawyer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7WnauFiafY
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>Comey says he didn't obstruct
>UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR OBSTRUCTION
someone fire thsi loser
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>>129952181
Kys
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>>129951742
This. There's simply too much hate for them *not* to impeach him sooner or later for whatever trumped up bullshit they can dream up (though removing him is still impossible). If they blow their load on this literal-nothing Trump will have effective immunity for any small to medium scandals for the remainder of his term.
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>>129951274
Read the OP

>>129951557
You misread my post. I am asking for evidence that the FBI's investigation is invalid.

>>129951585
Comey was his subordinate. That argument is dumb. and leads to a scenario in which no one in Washington can investigate anyone in Washington.

>>129951640
>before election day

You do realize that was 8 months ago, right?
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>>129951557
The President can order the FBI to drop any activity he wants, for no reason, you fucking retard
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>>129948373
Damn you're fast
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Time for the leaking criminal Comey's con job to end. Fire Mueller.
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>>129951683
You have provided no relevant argument as to why their investigation is invalid. "The FBI has done some bad stuff before," is nothing.
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>>129948317
So Bill Clinto and Loretta Lynch not under investigation for Obstruction of justice? Since that is the only evidence we got of it from Comey.
If they oust Trump its gonna be simple - CIVIL WAR.
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>>129951742
this
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>>129952666
Unfortunately he didn't do it for no reason.

He did it to obstruct justice.

Jail incoming.
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https://youtu.be/yry9PV3DNfw?t=24m2s

haha but this doesn't count haha
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>>129952058
If japmoot wanted to ban non-archived links he could add a new filter in about 15 seconds. Just use a fucking adblocker and you'll cost *them* money when you open their articles.

The last thing we fucking need is this place overrun by bots written by people who think they're "helping". Considering how often Norway gets banned and/or his posts purged I'd say the mods agree with me.
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>>129952949
There is no evidence of a crime, the FBI is garbage. You are garbage. Your thread is garbage. Your life is garbage, and it should end.
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>>129953036
He can't obstruct justice you fucking retard
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>investigating
>possible
>obstruction of justice
Let me know when they're pressing charges instead of making a media frenzy for people to screech at each other about
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>Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller is investigating President Donald Trump for obstruction of justice, The Washington Post reported Wednesday evening.

All the media reporting on a story from jeff bezos personal blog from "anomymous sources". What the fuck
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In all honesty is he probably the lowest IQ president in modern history? He is so bad at writing and speaking.

Getting impeached within the first year of being president would only cement his place as the worst president ever. How fucking incompetent do you have to be to control all branches of government and be unable to pass absolute dick? All he does is golf and masturbate to his memories of winning the election.
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This is good.
Dems are over playing their hand.
People are sick of hearing about this bullshit. Only the echo chamber left is still clinging on, but echos get softer the further out they go.
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>>129953299
Sure he can. What do you think Nixon was impeached for?
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>>129940388
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>>129953498
Bribing and coaching witnesses? Destruction and witholding of evidence? Using the CIA to help himself get reelected?
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HOLY FUCK, THE FLAGS ARE BACK
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>>129952972
>civil war
Yes goyim, fight!
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>Washington Post
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> Something happens putting bad name on Dems
> Hours later this changes the narrative

Never change Democrats. Never change.
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>>129949353

Because we're not retarded. The cons and libs hate his guts because he's not their puppet, so therefore they're going to throw every bullshit accusation they can at him, with two purposes, one to potentially remove him, the other to waste his time.

And again, gonna be more of the same witch hunt bullshit. A bunch of accusations without an ounce of evidence.
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>>129953498
>>129953498
>Sure he can. What do you think Nixon was impeached for?
You can google it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_process_against_Richard_Nixon#The_Impeachment_Inquiry_investigations
"An impeachment process against Richard Nixon was formally initiated on February 6, 1974, when the United States House of Representatives passed a resolution, H.Res. 803, giving its Judiciary Committee authority to investigate whether sufficient grounds existed to impeach Richard Nixon, the 37th President of the United States[1] of high crimes and misdemeanors, primarily related to the Watergate scandal. "

He was not impeached for obstruction of justice.
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>>129949362
Are you retarded? Investigations can take time. And he's not the one under investigation since that time. It was Russian interference. If he hadn't told Comey to stop the investigation and fired him when he wouldn't listen, he wouldn't be looking guilty to anyone with half a brain. He should keep his mouth shut and let the thing run its course if he's not guilty.

America is not 1/100th as corrupt as you think. Otherwise, Hillary would have won. Just let them run their investigation. Why would you care if you think he's innocent?
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>>129952662
You do realise this whole obstruction of justice thing relates to an investigation that for over 8 months and then some has failed to produce evidence against Trump despite the FBI having all of his files, his company's files, the files of some of his workers, and the files of his entire campaign team including several current members of his staff?
Because that's the situation we're looking at here. Obstruction of justice in a case where there is nothing left to obstruct, where the feds can do whatever they want and have still found nothing, nothing back then and nothing today.
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>>129952662
They wiretapped Trump for months before and after the election. If there was collusion it would have come out already.
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>>129953460
>In all honesty is he probably

> question someone's IQ and writing skill
> can't even construct a goddamn sentence

really activates my almonds tbqh senpai
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>>129954245

So you're in favor of PRISM I see.
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>>129948317
cool maybe our awesome President will get impeached and mike pence will electrocute all the gays and open up concentration camps. fucking retard.
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>>129948317
>"possible"
>"officials"

>(((say)))

>((((((cnn))))))

Nah.
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Surely this will be the end of Trump's campaign
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>>129954509
Actually, yeah. Nothing to hide. Helps capture traitors, criminals, and terrorists.
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>>129948317
literally fake news to distract from the shooting
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this isnt fair bros
we have to take mueller down NOW
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>>129948317
>"sources"
>"officials"
>"grandma's cousins friends neighbor"
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>>129954064
People hate Trump because he's incompetent and a horrible human being.

You seem to think there's some set timeline an FBI investigation has to follow. That is not how it works. That they're still investigating means there is something they believe to be there. There does not need to be direct evidence of Trump colluding for someone to reasonably suspect that Trump had done something wrong.

>all his files, company files, files of entire campaign

No, they do not.

You do not know what evidence they have.
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>>129951557
its heresy and inadmissible
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>>129954879

Makes all the sense in the world. Leftists have always wanted a police state.

>inb4 'I'm not a leftist'
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>>129955026
>People hate Trump because he's incompetent and a horrible human being.
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>>129948317

Bring it on deepstate

>Nearly 200 Democratic lawmakers are suing President Donald Trump, arguing his global business empire has illegally accepted payments from other countries without their approval.

>Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) is leading the charge, insisting Trump is making it difficult for them to do their job.

Bring it on Dems. Trump is going to keep you so distracted with this petty nonsense you can say goodbye to 2020.
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>>129955130
I am a leftist. Now what, fatty. You think I give a shit that you can't look up how to make a bomb or some shit? Go live in North Korea for a decade, then come back and call the US a police state without laughing.
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Guys....

What if this whole Russian thing is just a tiny part of a much larger plot?

Think about it:

Democrats scream and cry about Russia until everyone is sick of it. They claim Trump is about to be impeached every week. But this is their plan, they want the American people to get sick of it, to give up and to think that it could never happen. Then, when the next election comes along, the Dems WILL actually hack the voting machines (not all, just enough) to swing things in their favor. When the republicans cry foul and begin to investigate, the Dems will use all of our arguments against us and the average person will just think it's all bullshit like this Russian stuff was.

We're playing right into their hands like idiots. We need to ignore all of this crap and stop giving them ammo to use against us in 4 years.
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>>129948317
Thank god, I can't wait until that inbred orangutan faggot gets impeached
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>>129955026
>You do not know what evidence they have.
Umm, actually we probably do since literally everything anyone in the FBI has ever even *thought* about Trump has been anonymously leaked and printed in the washington post. Hell, the story in OP is based on leaks from *five* anonymous sources who were forbidden from discussing this.

Unless you think they're deliberately leaking all the worthless, boring shit and keeping all the REALLY incriminating stuff under wraps.
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>>129955026

>People hate Trump because they've been told to by their masters

FTFY

>You do not know what evidence they have.

Yes, yes we do... Nothing. Because they've been claiming 'he did X' for months now, and can never produce one piece of information to suggest anything.

The left claimed a narrative based on a lie, and now they have no choice but to commit to it and double down, or else everyone will know that they are frauds and liars, in turn ruining themselves even more.

I hope they do keep going though... they're only destroying themselves in the long run, thankfully.
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>>129948317
>Weeks passes
>It's nothing either
>Liberals on Twitter gets mad
>Calls for another investigation lead by another person in the special counsel

Calling it.
This is a never ending circle of bullshit. Which is why Trump completely ignores it.
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>>129953498
haha

I don't think YOU know what he was impeached for.
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(((((((((sources familiar with the matter))))))))))
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>>129955548

Actually I can cuckboi... kek, anyone that knows basic chemistry can.

God this salt from you creatures is glorious.
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>>129955788
Every intelligence agency agrees Russia meddled in the election. If you call that "based on a lie" you're actually retarded.
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>>129955577
Nah, the "investigate the president for years and find fuck-all" thing has been standard in politics since forever. Ken Starr, Benghazi, etc.

The instant the sides flip everyone instantly forgets everything they said and thought the last time around.
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He was obstructing muh Russia which is the opposite of justice
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>>129956148
A) Russia didn't like Hillary and posted mean things on facebook
B) Trump is a russian agent

Stop trying to conflate these things.
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>>129956148
Please define "meddled in the election."
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>>129956125
>claims to know basic chemistry
>confederate flag
nice try fatty fatty hamburger patty
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>>129955684
This investigation has been going on since shortly after Comey was fired, yet we're only hearing about it a month later. So no, everything has not been leaked. They probably intentionally leaked this out of fear Trump was going to try and stop the investigation.
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>>129956148

And yet every intelligence agency can't produce evidence.

And every mainstream media agency claimed Hillary was going to win, and Trump had no chance.

And every celebrity claimed Trumps, and I quote 'Not going to be President'.

Keep nailin on that psychout
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>>129955788
Nobody's been claiming Trump did anything though.
They've been claiming members of his campaign lied about or omitted private meetings with foreign (Russian) nationals on their SF86 and lied further when directly asked about it.
That kind of omission would put literally anyone under the spotlight. You don't just "forget" to put down shit like that.

Given the rest of the nonsense around the elections it certainly looks a whole lot more interesting to the agencies involved.

Trump wasn't even being directly looked at until he made the brilliant move of firing the person leading the investigation into other people he was associated with.
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>eight years of the democrats reminding everyone they're butthurt and impotent

Are you ready for 16 years of Republican government?
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>>129956410
please define define

this is how retarded you look
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>>129948317
Nope. Mueller's investigation is now fucked. Leaking can be shown to be prejudicial.
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>>129955026
>guy gets fired
>he's mad
>he leaks classified information to specifically start a specific investigation
>guy who runs special investigation just happens to be his best friend

Are you really this blind and stupid?
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This is it. Drumpf and Sessions and Pence and Ryan and Flynn are all headed to life in prison. We won.
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>>129949249

Funny how you probably never said the same thing about emails, benghazi, or any other frivolous faggotry over the past few years. Hillary may have been a raging cunt, but if you think those were any different than this, you are delusional and deserve to be gassed.

To put that another way: to reap what you sow.
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>>129948317
He's investigated for keeping his promises, what time line is this?
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>>129956420

Aww you hurt my fee fees.
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>>129956479
They did produce evidence though. What are you even talking about? You must be living under a rock. There was even a leak of said information.
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>>129956649

you reap what you sow*
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>>129948500

are you retarded?
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>>129956610
The guy who runs the special investigation is the former FBI director who is widely respected and considered the best man for the job.
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>>129956748

>They did produce evidence though

You obviously didn't read through that "evidence".

It was fucking nothing.
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>>129956463
Alrighty then. I guess we'll just have to wait a little while for the TRUE extent of Trump's treachery to become public.

Aaaaannnyyy day now.
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>>129948317
>some crazy bernout shot a GOP politician
>mfw narrative crumbling and le resistance will be evil

quickly! put out some more fake news
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>>129956855

Based on what?
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>>129949711

You do realize that is the purpose of an investigation? To seek and evaluate evidence? You fucking retard. Investigations can also prove innocence, fucktard.
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>>129956855
The guy who runs the special investigation was found out to be colluding with Comey to start this before it even began.

This is clear entrapment. The fact that you can't see this show how low your IQ is.
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>>129953152
You seen awfully defensive of click bait articles getting their clicks. Really makes me think.
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>>129955577
you crazy. kinda. i mean, your theory would make sense, except they have no evidence. if they actually do something, there will be evidence.
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>>129956610
>>guy who runs special investigation just happens to be his best friend

This guy, like comey, has been praised in virtually all circles.

And let's not forget that trump was sucking comey's dick barely a couple months ago. Stay in school you fucking 12 year old.
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>>129950380

>Where is your evidence the investigation is invalid?

Where is your evidence the investigation IS valid. Presumption of innocence until proven guilty. It's on the FBI to show in open court that Donald Trump has committed a crime.

This is a right affronted to all Americans. You prove to US that he is a criminal. We don't prove to YOU he isn't.
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>>129956516
>You don't just "forget" to put down shit like that.

>high level government official
>ten meetings with random people - including foreign diplomats - every day
>forget about that time you met the Russian ambassador at a party a year and a half ago

Yeah, you're right, such a thing could never happen.
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>>129956394
Trump is the one conflating them. He shouldn't have ask Comey to stop an investigation that wasn't over and he shouldn't have fired him because he wouldn't stop the investigation into Russia's election meddling.

If you can't see how this looks suspicious then there's a bridge I'd like to sell you.
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>>129956420
You have no idea of the US gun culture, or you are just shitposting poorly. The people you scorn build weapons for fun and many of us are good at it, and I don't just mean finishing an 80-percent lower at home. Explosives were easy to learn how to make before the internet.

Fucking Syrians with no money make effective seige mortars ("hell cannons") from scrap, and the US has far more technical and metalworking talent.

If you are so confident, please encourage more Berniecrats to violence! Let's put this to the test, bitch. Make it interesting. We need the violence to see who will win. Kill some Republicans and get the party started, because the blowback will be beautiful.
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>>129957048
No one said he is guilty. An investigation doesn't imply legal guilt.
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>>129956125

post reported to the FBI, grats on your V&
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>>129957078

Except that's the hilarious part.

The investigation hasn't been halted. He just fired Comey... as the democrats were calling for a few months back. Hence why we're all laughing at you.
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>>129956649
I agree the benghazi investigations were political horseshit, and if muh russia was just cynical turnabout then I'd be OK with it. Hell, I'd even respect it.

But when your stupid political revenge scheme convinces tens of millions of people that the president's a traitor and provokes assassination attempts, that's a different story.
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>>129957226

You're parading around like he's already guilty, however. The FBI has yet to produce anything substantial indicating he committed any sort of criminal behavior.

It's very likely he may go up on Obstruction charges based on Comey's testimony, but as it stands now, there's no way he'd be convicted because the word of that man is not enough.
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>>129957042
Comey was also praised. Until the democrats wanted him fired.

You truly are clueless, or just really new to politics.
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>>129957238

Uh, thanks. Nothings gonna happen, but have a great day.
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>>129949263

It was those pesky russian hackers at the DHS changing votes in conservative states
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>>129957310

>Dems call for firing when he obviously mishandles the Clinton investigation
>Trump for some reason waits until he himself is under investigation to fire him but then blames the clinton mishandling

GEE I WONDER WHY THATS SUSPICIOUS HMMMMMMMMMMM
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>>129957042
Literally none of that is true.
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>>129956855
Respect among rats is hardly respect.
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>>129957022
You seem awfully defensive of bots being able to roam free. Really makes me think.
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>>129950911
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>>129957023
they have no evidence but they just keep pulling claims out of their ass. they're never going to impeach trump or this or even bring charges against him, that's the point. They want to make the American public so sick of hearing about "hacking" and shit that when they actually do pull it off next election the republicans will have no public support for an investigation.
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>>129956649
all that frivolous faggotry actually happened. the email bullshit, laws were broken. any other fbi director would not have overstepped like that pussy and took it upon themselves to say he thought her breaking laws was ok. benghazi, people died. she fucking lied about it. obama lied about it. they lied to avoid political ramifications. they actually did horrible things.now, the same side is making up bullshit with 0 evidence. reap what you sow. gimme a break
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>>129957595

Irrelevant. It's clear you morons would've jumped on him just like you are now. Whether he did it sooner or later is irrelevant.

You really are the tea party/birthers after Obama became president, but 10x more crazy and rabid.
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>>129957778
they could just show evidence...
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>>129957595

oh and did I say again, that the investigation hasn't been stopped, and that Comey just got fired?
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>>129957595
It's almost as if Comey is an all-around fuckup who Trump was only tolerating until it became clear his bungling was directly affecting him.
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>>129957933

You are literally retarded
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>>129948317

"Special Counsels" hold their cards so close that the Washington Compost can make up whatever fake news they want and it will never be corrected. Not even after they close shop.

It's incredibly unlikely that anything has leaked from Mueller's investigation, if this keeps up I expect it will be shut down or DOJ will step in or at least step up and say something.

The Compost knows this so enjoy the fake news.
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>>129948317
>cnn
at least post a credible news source
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>>129954245

Trump never was under investigation.

Comey told congress 3 times.

U degenerate leftist subhumans belong erradicated, once and for all.
Cant wait till u start civil war...
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>>129957489
I was talking about legal guilt. I definitely believe he is guilty and that this is a huge step.

The FBI doesn't need to publicly provide substantial evidence until trial or unless compelled to by Congress.

Comey's testimony will definitely be a part of it, but you'd be a fool to think the FBI's case is based on Comey's testimony and nothing else.
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>>129957933
>You really are the tea party/birthers after Obama became president, but 10x more crazy and rabid.
this. except there's not a large portion of them that denounce the group as crazy nuts, like republicans did the tea party/birthers. they're pretty much all on board the sinking ship. funny really. i can see in the future the 2 "major parties" being republicans and another party.
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>>129957776
>Inseminate

lul
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>>129958140
nice argument
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>>129948317

Do you guys really think you can milk this until 2018?

HILARIOUS

Going to manufacture more Russian origins?
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>>129958221

Well he is now =) Have a great night, fucktard
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>>129951160
The FBI knows everything. The issue is does anybody in a position of power have the balls to do anything about it ? We'll find out soon enough if Mueller is alpha AF or a cuck AF.
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>>129958501

>arguing with retards

No thanks
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>>129958353
>I hate trump so he's guilty
OK bud
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>>129958140

See
>>129957489
>>129958062

>Democrat reading comprehension

Stay mad sweetie
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>>129948317
And in the end only the house can bring criminal charges against the president and only the senate can suspend his duties

American tax dollars at work
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>>129958353
News: "The number of bullshit things Trump is under investigation for just hit triple digits."
You: "Trump is guilty, the FBI has proof (which miraculously has never leaked), and Trump will be out of office and in jail by next week"

It's fun watching you people get worked up like this over and over and over again.
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>>129952949

You have to prove why it's valid fuck tard.
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>>129958740

>WAT IS THE PURPOSE OF AN INVESTIGATION

LOL I DUNNO I'M A FUCKTARD TRUMPANZEE
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>>129958353

You keep talking in hypothetics.

Unless you're in the agency and trying to be the super leaker and hint strongly at things to come, you have no proof currently that there is any validity to the bureau's actions outside of Comey's testimony, because that's all that's public.

If the FBI has more, the public has a right to know, and the Congress should subpoena them for it.

You can believe he's guilty all you want, but it means you believe in a fairy tale based on the lack of evidence to convict him. If they provide more substantial evidence to the public that convinces me, I'm willing to listen. But this is not enough. And I'm not thrilled we're still spending time on this with the country and the world falling apart due to the perceived weakness of the country right now.
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>>129958640

I'm fine with being a retard, but you have no actual argument.

Have one of these as a consolation prize.
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>>129958155
Putting aside the fact that the Washington Post is one of the most credible news agencies in the world, it is very possible Mueller's camp leaked it because they suspected Trump was getting ready to do something drastic in order to stop the investigation. Now with this report out there would undeniably be a conflict of interest in any decisions Trump might try and take.
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Reminder that most of these "leaks" have been completely refuted.

Leak: "Comey had just asked the White House for more money for the investigation before Trump fired him!"
Reality: Comey's replacement, an Obama appointee who campaigned for Clinton, outlined during his testimony to congress that not only did this not happen, but it COULDN'T happen, since the FBI doesn't budget individual investigations, and any request for additional funding would have to go through Congress

Leak: "Comey is going to accuse Trump of obstruction during his testimony, we saw a draft of his statement!"
Reality: Comey explicitly denies any obstruction

Leak: "Trump is planning on firing the special prosecutor!"
Reality: Trump doesn't have the legal power to fire the special prosecutor, the person who does (acting AG Rosenstien) has denied Trump ever asking him to fire the special prosecutor, and the special prosecutor denied every being told Trump was planning on firing him

The media only ever covers the leaks, never the part where it gets proven as complete bullshit. The leakers could be Rick Wilson and Bill Murray calling from a payphone next to a frogurt stand at the circus and WaPo/NYT would publish it.
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>>129957002
What do you call an investigation that isn't created in response to a crime being committed?

Go on, take a guess.
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>>129959015
>the Washington Post is one of the most credible news agencies in the world

annnnd stopped reading right there
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>>129959015
>literally made up a story about russians hacking vermont's electric grid
wew
>one of the most credible news agencies in the world,
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>>129959058

An investigation is to seek evidence of a committed crime. An investigation CAN ALSO DETERMINE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE.

Fucking idiot.
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trump is going downnnnnnnn
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>Putting aside the fact that the Washington Post is one of the most credible news agencies in the world

Ok so you're a troll
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>>129959015

> Washington Post under Bezos
> Being anything other than HuffPo with a bigger budget and a well known brandname
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>>129958353

what does the FBI have to do with Mueller's investigation?

if the FBI were looking into Trump's "obstruction" which is an impossibility considering it is well within his purview to tell the FBI what they can and can't investigate and if the FBI doesn't want to do it, Trump can pressure the DOJ to make them do it. The worst they can do is quit their jobs.

None of that has even happened. Unless Mueller or one of his close team are actively leaking this information themselves, its fake news. You're not going to hear anything about what Mueller is investigating or not, unlike what happened with the FBI.
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>>129948317
>https://archive.is/LhJT6
10000000000 KEK units that nothing becomes of this.
Any takers?
This is actually getting boring. YAWWWWWWN... SLEEPY.
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>>129959015
>>129959147
Also the 'propornot' thing.
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>>129959058

I'm going to go with the DNC political strategy of 2016-2018 for $800, Alex.
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>>129958906

The. Investigation. Hasn't. Been. Stopped. Therefore. His. Firing. Of. Comey. Isn't. Suspicious. By. Nature.
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>>129959015
>Putting aside the fact that the Washington Post is one of the most credible news agencies in the world
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>>129948373

This guy is the most dedicated person to something so important only to him. Dang dude.
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Blumpf is going down this time yall
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>>129959058

It's called a Discovery investigation, all investigations start as Discovery investigations.

You think every single call to the police is the result of a crime? 80% of the time the officer shows up, takes a statement, then tells the person reporting that nothing illegal happened and they need to calm down.
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Oh yes, I'm definitely going to believe the (((sources))) that even Comey said were lying during his testimony.
Face it, you have nothing and you (((conveniently))) dig up a hit piece against Trump to distract from one of your own shooting up a fucking baseball game.
I'm surprised the shooter didn't ghost himself.
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>>129959360

>It's OK guys he only slowed down the investigation
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>>129959015

They've been wrong at least a dozen times this year alone. Their narrative is not even credible this time around. Comey testified he felt "uncomfortable" with his conversation with Trump. He denied it was "obstruction" as that would make no sense by definition of the law.

>The acts by which justice is obstructed may include bribery, murder, intimidation, and the use of physical force against witnesses, law enforcement officers or court officials.

>https://www.ohiobar.org/forpublic/resources/lawyoucanuse/pages/lawyoucanuse-132.aspx

The fact is even if Trump demanded Comey drop the FLYNN investigation *(notice how Trump never even brought up the supposed investigation into his campaign), that still wouldn't have been obstruction.
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>>129959322
>Unless Mueller or one of his close team are actively leaking this information themselves, its fake news.
According to the wapo version the investigation's existence was leaked by *five* anonymous people working for Mueller who weren't authorized to talk about it. So looks like Mueller is going to have lots of fun with leakers as this goes on.
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>>129958910
No, the burden of proof i s on you to show that their investigation is invalid. Again, the investigation being valid is not the same as Trump being guilty. It only means that they have a good reason to trigger an investigation.

We know about Comey and Yates' public testimonies. I would argue that this information alone is enough to justify an investigation. We only enter the speculative when saying what should be uncontroversial things, such as the fact that this is the FBI and believing they can do completely BS investigations into the president requires you to be a tinfoiler of the highest degree.
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>>129959232
oh right, you're retarded. I'll let you try again out of pity with simpler phrasing.

What do you call an investigation created under false pretenses?
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>>129956148
And we all agree you're a faggot, but you'd be pressed to ask for proof before it was confirmed.
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>>129957361
Trump: *hires two political advisors who were literally being paid by foreign governments but 'forget' to register as foreign agents until compelled* i'm no traitor. you're the traitor
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>>129952093
>until he fired Comey and said to Holt in a public interview it was over the Russia investigation
>"this Russia Trump thing is an excuse by Democrats for losing an election"
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>>129960030

No, the burden is on the FBI to show the validity OF the investigation. Otherwise, they could investigate indefinitely if there was no outcry against it.

Testimony is not enough to keep this going. Only the public outcry for blood without hard evidence (as is the way of some hard liners on the left... after all, remember: "evidence is racist/sexist) is what keeps this going.

That is belief. Do you also believe there's a great bearded man in the sky controlling the weather?

I bet you don't. I bet you make fun of people who do.
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>>129951557
He wasn't an FBI director when he testified that though. He kept it secret until he was fired. If it even happened at all, that is. If it did he should have spoken up at a time when he had any credibility.
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>>129951557
Except he didn't order Comey to drop or let go anything sweetie, did you watch Comey's testimoney or get the highlights from ShareBlue?
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>>129960317
>Flynn gives paid speeches to US allies

Clearly a sign he has been co-opted by Russia.
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>>129960317
They messed up some paperwork! Treason!
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>>129960317
Manafort was being contracted by the podesta group lmao. it took all of about 30 seconds of that fact being public knowledge before it was dropped by pro-clinton rags like a crucifix burning their hands.
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>>129960376

>Do you also believe there's a great bearded man in the sky controlling the weather?

Nah, that's ionosphere cavity resonance.
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>>129948317
Mueller personal friends with Comey....appoints Clinton Foundation Attorneys to investigative team........

What are these idiots doing? Are they trying to sabotage the thing before its even begun?

And even if they get trump, there is still pence & ryan

Good Lord, if the liberals keep it up we will have a civil war again......
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>>129951160
But you can't start an investigation based on mere suspicion and rumor. There has to be evidence a crime took place for an investigation to even be initiated. This's Gould the be treated like an inquisition
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>special investigation


so it's nothing, guess I should go back to not caring.
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>>129948317
Why is his investigation being leaked? None of it should be public knowledge. Unless WaPo is just making shit up again.
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Anything to switch the narrative quick of left violence
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>>129950380
The burden rest open the accuser to provide evidence a crime has taken place.
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>>129960581

Hearty kek
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I love how this entire thing is.completely based on Comey's illegal act.

When are Rice and Lynch going to get questioned?
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>>129948317
Bull shit
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>>129948317
I can understand why they'd want to, but there really isn't a strong case at all for it.
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>>129948500
This.

Mueller has gone beyond the scope of the original reason he was brought in as spec prosecutor. Plus he's filled his team with Clintonite shills.

Shut it down
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>>129960974

I give it 6 months.
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>>129959087
>>129959147
>>129959264
>>129959309
>>129959483
>>129959816

I would love to see who you guys think is credible, if not the organization who has led reporting on thousands of major stories in their 139+ year existence (including watergate) and has a sterling reputation with respect to ethics among their peers and readers to protect. You do realize that the Washington Post is based in Washington DC, and no sources in the capital.

Being wrong occasionally does not make someone not credible. Every news org is wrong some of the time because they are made up of humans, who naturally make mistakes. As long as basic ideas in journalistic ethics are followed when a mistake happens, it is not a problem.

You guys need to stop grasping at straws. It's limiting your grasp of reality.
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>>129960046
>>129960030
>>129960376
>>129960427
>>129960409

Literally you guys are fucking morons. Just fucking kill yourselves.

Do you shit-for-brains actually think 1) investigators should talk about open investigations? 2) there has to be irrevocable proof just to OPEN an investigation and 3) Comey doesn't have dirt?
>>129960721

That's literally why investigations are opened. You fucking eternal moron.

Look, if Trump is innocent, I'll be happy to have a complete retard in office over Shitlery or a Russian plant. And Lynch's ass needs to be sniffed next for jail. But you motherfuckers can't be so fucking stupid you don't understand the nature of investigations.

Wait, yes you can. This is 4chan. You fucktards would deny being dead at the gates of Heaven.
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>>129961169

Does Bezos pay well?
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>>129960783
>Why is his investigation being leaked? None of it should be public knowledge.
Because it hurts Trump, duh.

An investigation is literally nothing, don't even worry about it. They'll be "investigating" him for some horseshit for his entire time in office and beyond. I just can't wait until they try to impeach him for "I hope you can let this go". If Clinton got a 10 point impeachment poll bump, this should be good for 20 at least.
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>>129961169
>constantly lie and make up stories
>credible source
No news agency is credible.
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>>129948317

It's the Washington Post with another "exclusive" leak.

Come on.

The day the attempted assassination of a GOP rep happens, the Washington Post comes up with a new story to divert attention from that terrorist attack against conservatives.

You may not trust Mueller 100% but you trust the Washington Post even less.
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>>129961169
>defending CIA lapdogs this hard
KYS retard.
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>>129961169
No, WaPo after the Bezos aquire has gone straight downhill, even the most hearty DNC shills on hacker news/ycombinator these days admit WaPo is pure garbage now. The two journos involved in watergate also don't like the post anymore.

It's a rag these days
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>>129961169
The wapo of 1972 and the wapo of 2017 are dramatically different things. Same goes for the rest of the media.

Media trustworthiness poll ratings are literally *half* what they were before and during watergate, and almost literally zero among conservatives.
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>>129948317
>Trump get away with it more than Sam Hyde
This time you'll really get him OP
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>>129961219

>1) investigators should talk about open investigations?

Well they have been for months now.

So you tell me, assclown?
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>>129961219
>I'll be happy to have a complete retard in office over Shitlery or a Russian plant.
The real question is whether we'd rather have Shitlery or the Russian plant.
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>>129961219

>Literally the same argument as tea party/birthers on mega steroids
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>>129949353
His staff is made up of Clinton donors and Democrat hit lawyers. Mueller himself is involved with people of interest in any "investigation". This is a complete garbage shit circus and you know it. This would be like hiring Manafort or Kushner to head a special investigation into Clinton. Zero possibility to be impartial.
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>>129948317

JUST
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>>129961219

1) An investigation of this scale when there's been no tangible proof presented? Yes. I'm watching the world fall apart, and we're talking about whether or not Trump said bad words.

If he committed a crime, Impeach/Remove. If not, let it go. If they have evidence, now's the time to present it. The longer this drags on, the worse it gets for all of us.

2) No. But we didn't just "open an investigation." This nonsense has dragged on for months.

3) He had an opportunity to bust everything wide open when he testified before the Senate. Trump's reeling, his approvals are in the dirt, Comey's considered more trustworthy. Why wait? To drag it on is to actively harm the country and the world.

As for Lynch, well. Yeah, she probably has explaining to do. But Hillary lost, so that likely won't happen.
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>>129948373
Best bot

Keep it up
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>>129948835

No, the democrats would still have conducted this witch hunt, even if he did everything they expected Hillary to do.
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>>129950380

Not an argument. Oh, and its you who has to prove evidence exists when none does.
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>>129951557
Then when are we gonna lynch Lynch over her and Bills private meeting and her telling comey to softball the email investigation?
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>>129962177

Only if their virtue signal machines kept echoing frequencies.

They can fan hysteria from anything.
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>>129962007

>literally not an argument

>>129961806

Investigators can discuss that they are investigating something but revealing the finding of said investigation is a no no until said evidence has been presented to a prosecutor. Said prosecutor will decide if there's enough evidence to take said suspect/POI to trial.

Read a fucking book sometime you idiot.
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Thing is, they will just kangaroo court him. It doesn't matter what evidence there is or is not. It's all to get trump to the hearing. If it gets that far he literally will be impeached for being a "big racist poopy head"
Then CNN will start "speculating" on Hillary taking his place somehow.
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Under investigation again? Give it up libs you have absolutely nothing on him. I've already given up there's no way to impeach the man he is impeachable he cannot will not be impeached.
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>>129962280

It needs to happen. I don't care if you're right or left, this shit needs to be looked into.
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>>129962316

Please explain the last 3 months of leaks from the lefty rags.
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>>129948317
Oh look, it's fucking nothing.
Hit me up when you've got some real evidence, friendo.
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>>129962454

Leaks are much different than an investigator openly surrendering their evidence.

When/if a case goes to trial, there's a thing called DISCOVERY where all the evidence is presented to the defense. At that time, the defense is given time to develop a defense of said evidence. It's not fucking hard to understand.

Most likely, in my opinion, Trump will be cleared in all investigations. I doubt all of his staff will be.
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>>129962136
Trump's approval actually hasn't really moved one way or another. Gallup has him where they had several weeks ago but he actually increased in reuters, Rasmussen, yougov and even PPD.
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>>129948835
>landlord
Would pay to see Donald Trump as Don Knotts in Three's Company re-make.
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>>129962770

And, if any evidence is withheld from discovery, it is not admissible in trial.
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>>129961538
Journalistic standards have remained the same. Media trustworthiness has gone down because people have more choice over the media outlets they consume and they go to the outlets that confirm their biases, not the outlets reporting the truth.

I'm not a media shill. I am red-pilled with respect to media bias. There are ways to misinform people while staying with in the bounds of journalistic ethics and I notice it plenty. However, when it comes to straight-up reporting, orgs like WaPo and the NYT do not lie. if only because they have an existential stake in not throwing away their credibility.
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Investigating for obstruction of an investigation of nothing. Good luck with that. Huge waste of time and money.

Russians tried to hack and failed. Zero votes changed. Zero influence. Move the fuck on.

Even if he did obstruct. No smoking gun. Just one man's word against another's.

Even if he did get impeached, it won't be anytime soon, he would have to be convicted by a Republican controlled Congress and then Pence becomes president.
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>>129948317
Obstructing a fake investigation.

It's getting to Kafka levels
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>>129948373
seriously impressive
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>>129962770

>Leaks are much different than an investigator openly surrendering their evidence.

Not really, the only difference is the platform.

>I doubt all of his staff will be.

It is Washington, after all.
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>>129962409
>he literally will be impeached for being a "big racist poopy head"

Probably, but that's actually a good thing. Removal is still impossible, dems will look retarded, Trump will get a poll bump (like Clinton did), and if there ever were a real scandal in the future it would be much harder for them to do anything about it.
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Remember Kenneth Star investigating Bill Clinton? He couldn't find shit on watergate but kept digging and Clinton was impeached for getting his dick sucked.

Trump probably murdered people in his shady business dealings. He's under a RICO investigation already.

Trump presidency will be under a funk cloud for the entire 4 years.
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>>129963032

>Russians tried to hack and failed.

>>129958549

Still hasn't been proven, metadata shows forgery.
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>>129962958
When they cite anonymous sources without there ever being anything happening, they are effectively lying without consequences.

Media standards are shit nowadays.
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>>129963220

No, it's totally different. Honestly, leaks on bombshell evidence hurts the prosecution because it gives more time for defense to prepare.

And yes, Lynch and Bill CLinton should be under investigation as well. Because that ALSO looks like clear obstruction. It's fucking bullshit that these motherfuckers get away with this shit when I could call my sheriff buddy and ask him to go easy on my DUI retard cousin and I could get 10 years. Why do any of these fucks get to get away with it?
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Surely this will be the end of his campaign.
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>>129963374
>Clinton was impeached

Yeah that trumped up charge really fucked him over didn't it
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>>129961169
You seem to think some of us believe that the ilk of wapo and nyt are incapable of being truthful. That's not the case at all. They could easily be the world class publications they style themselves after if they really wanted to be, or if their owners cared about reputation and the craft. or if their target audience (gullible idiots like yourself) dried up and held to them to simply any standard.

The NYT and wapo et al. are plainly deliberate with their lies and slander. The fact that they don't bother to retract or correct soundly (and often instantly) debunked stories, and are eager to repeatedly fabricate nonsense based on hysterical distortions of anonymous, or illegal, leaks with the specific goal of going after one man should make them the laughing stock of every thinking man from every political perspective the world over.

Instead shitheads like you skim their headlines, use your imagination to fill in the rest, and come here to argue in favor of the incoherent fantasy whirling around your tiny brain only to inevitably leave frustrated and confused because everyone above a 6th grade reading level blows you the fuck out.

>You guys need to stop grasping at straws. It's limiting your grasp of reality.

You're projecting.
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>>129954245
>America is not 1/100th as corrupt as you think. Otherwise, Hillary would have won
She nearly did win. In fact she got the popular vote which while is irrelevant does say how close it was.
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>>129963381
This. The Russian hackers meme us still not proven and I doubt it will be anytime soon.
I want to see concrete evidence and it seems like the FBI can't deliver it.
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>>129963590

>hurts the prosecution

You're about 6 steps too far forward there, cowboy.
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>>129963499
>When they cite anonymous sources without there ever being anything happening, they are effectively lying without consequences.

If they are wrong, their credibility decreases.
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>>129963704
She won 48.2% which is merely a plurality of the vote.
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>>129963746

Sure, provided the case goes to trial which it probably won't. I'm just saying what the fuck is wrong with looking into fucking corruption in our goddamn government?
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>>129949353
Because your kind have started shooting is. Time to die, nigger.
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>>129948317
>unnamed sources who are reported friends of an Applebee's server who once reportedly served a basket of curly-fries to a man who is alleged to have gone to high-school with Robert Muller... WHO IS THE SPECIAL COUNSEL INVESTIGATING ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP FOR, THUS-FAR, WELL SOURCED CONNECTIONS WITH TREASONOUS COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA TO HACK HILLARY CLINTON OUT OF HER RIGHTFUL CROWNING AS QUEEN OF THE USA... errr, ELECTION AS PRESIDENT.... BECAUSE HE IS A MEAN ORANGE FACIST NAZI WHO NEEDS TO BE RESISTED WITH ***DEADLY FORCE**** BEFORE HE CAN BUILD A WAL OR EAT THE 3rd SCOOP!!!

>t. CREDIBLE MAINSTREAM MEDIA

dude,,,, I wish it was actually satire... but they are quite """seriously""" on this level right now.

My Grandfather and his actual media buddies from the 1930-early 50's era could solve the world's energy crisis right now if we could hook cables up to their coffins and harvest the sheer kinetic energy produced by the faster-than-light speed rotations they are all doing right now SPINNING IN THEIR GRAVES!!!

Fucking Kali Yuga man.... serious biz
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>>129963815
That's the thing, it doesn't because it confirms the liberal bias of their readers.
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>>129956855
That means he should realize there is a conflict of interest with him directing the investigation.
The fact that he hasn't recused himself means there is something suspicious going on and no result will be taken as legitimate by every reasonable observer. Whether Trump gets off clean or not the investigation will be illegitimate.
Remember this when he gets cleared.
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>>129961219
>Literally you guys are fucking morons.
>using 'literally' as an intensifier
>calling others morons
your pic related, that's how dumb you are irl.
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>>129963590

>Leaks on Bombshell Evidence hurt the prosecution

Nigga do you know what discovery is? This isn't Japan or Phoenix Wright where you can hold evidence right up until trial and just drop it on the defense. The defense is within it's rights to receive any and all evidence prior to a trial to provide a proper defense.
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People don't want investigations to play out for some reason. I don't know why everyone is worked up. Just let them investigate and whatever happens happens.
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>>129963873

>I'm just saying what the fuck is wrong with looking into fucking corruption in our goddamn government?

Because it's not looking into corruption.

It's a politicized McCarthy-esque circus, perpetrated by individuals with a pony in the race.
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>>129963701
Washington Post and New York Times always corrects and "soundly" retracts when necessary. You are just wrong. The problem is you think a story has been "debunked" because inforwars or Breitbart reports differently. That is not how it works.

There is zero evidence WaPo or NYT fabricate stories. They report the truth. There is bias against Trump (for good reason), but that is not expressed in the form of reporting things that are untrue or refusing to report on things that are true out of disdain for trump.
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>>129962958
So people realize the media is garbage more than they did in the 1970's? That's not a bad thing.

>However, when it comes to straight-up reporting, orgs like WaPo and the NYT do not lie.

Sure, they probably don't deliberately lie, but they do seem much more credulous and in a rush to publish crap that later turns out to be bullshit.

And while it's not "lying" to say "some anonymous guy told us X", it basically becomes lying once you follow that up with all sorts of bullshit >implications about treason and impeachment (and one cover-your-ass sentence in paragraph 45 admitting that X is completely normal and legal). *That* is why no one pays attention anymore.
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wtf i hate trump now
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>>129964040

I'm very aware of what discovery is, I addressed it in an earlier post, perhaps you should read the thread, newfriend.

>>129964112

That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

>>129964036

No /pol/ has devolved into a fucking moron fest full of Trump and Hillary shills that don't care about our country, only team politics. It's fucking stupid but I guess it is a microcosm of the complete lunacy that is the American voting constituents.
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>>129948317
>Five people briefed on the requests, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly, said that Daniel Coats, the current director of national intelligence, Mike Rogers, head of the National Security Agency, and Rogers’s recently departed deputy, Richard Ledgett, agreed to be interviewed by Mueller’s investigators as early as this week.

Wow it's fucking nothing.
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>>129964311
No they don't which is a problem.
Just recently, Comey confirmed that they lied about something he said, yet they didn't correct it.
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>>129964311
>but that is not expressed in the form of reporting things that are untrue or refusing to report on things that are true out of disdain for trump.
Do you come here specifically to tell lies? Or are you so retarded that you honestly believe someone is going to take you seriously when you say stupid shit like this?
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>>129948317
>Obstruction of justice
How can there be obstruction of justice if there was no investigation?

If it's obstruction of justice, then Comey is objectively guilty of perjury.
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>>129964514

Fuck off Kraut you're literally 1 generation away from being a sand nigger
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>>129962958
preach bro
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>>129964612
And you're 0 away from being New New Mexico.
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>>129964473

That's a lot of work, but you called me "newfriend" so I guess I'm obligated to now.

Maybe. Still, your subsequent statement would show a startling disregard for discovery proceedings. That also presupposes that the judge would allow such evidence to enter the record, as depending on the nature of the evidence (or how it's obtained) it may not be allowed at all.

Aaah, law discussions. Actually one of my favorite things.
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>>129964311
>There is zero evidence WaPo or NYT fabricate stories.
Like the hilarious PropOrNot thing accusing Drudge and Breitbart and other conservative media of being Russian propaganda outlets that they couldn't get a single news outlet in the country to run with until they called up the washington post?
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>>129960680
>& ryan
So there's just Pence.
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>>129948317
Just fire mueller.
>problem solved
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>>129963967
That isn't how it works in liberal circles. You seem to think we are simply conservatives in the opposite direction. We're not ideologically, and we simply don't have to be because our viewpoints are mainstream. We would not protect WaPo or NYT if they reported lies. We do not like lies. We WANT to be able to btfo conservatives by posting things that are truthful, so if an org is regularly reporting false information, we will not trust that org. If you actually looked at how the left talked about the so-called "liberal media," we are far more critical of it than the right is of conservative media and we get our information but a much larger gamut of sources.
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>>129948317
Obstruction of justice for made up charges. This suit will totally hold water.
Do you faggots ever get tired of losing?
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>>129964311
I don't see anyone retracting the bogus "Trump is going to fire Mueller" stories.
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>>129965142
>we smart u guys are the real morans for nut belivin in wapo
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Just be fucking honest

Trump could raped and skin and infant alive and then eat it on times Square and you shitdicks would be lol LOL KEK WILLS IT!

>>129964835

But my statement obviously points out that evidence not entered into discovery, including pre jury leaks, would be inadmissible. You still didn't read it.

It's ok, I know it takes effort to read things so I won;t hold you accountable for it.
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>>129951819
i'll report you first you goddamn faggot
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>>129957361
Have you considered the possibility that you might be wrong about him?

Because that is a possibility, you know.
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>>129963032
>Russians tried to hack and failed.
The funniest part about it is when you realize they haven't mentioned any other country attempting to "hack the election". You can fucking guarantee China had sweatshops full of chinks trying. In fact I'm sure the only country that didn't try was Israel, not because they're America's greatest ally but because they already control large chunks of the election system so don't need to.
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>>129965349
>Trump could raped and skin and infant alive and then eat it on times Square and you shitdicks would be lol LOL KEK WILLS IT!
you must think you're still on reddit.
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>>129964473

>That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

Because you're in on it, senpai.
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>>129964835
>>129965349

I'm fully aware that any evidence to be used at trial would have to be admitted upon discovery and I would also like to point out that discovery only happens if a PROSECUTOR FEELS THERE'S ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO GO TO TRIAL.

This the purpose of investigation. To gather and later present evidence.

That's all I'm saying.
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>>129963869
Still more than Trump which is the point.
Again, the popular vote is irrelevant since it's based on the electoral votes but it says how close the election was.
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>>129965304
It was reported that Trump was considering firing Mueller. Where was this shown to be "bogus"? You do realize Trump's friend, the same day he had gone to the White House, went to the media to blab about it? It was clearly a stunt, and apparently Trump orchestrated it with the hope Mueller would publicly affirm that Trump was "not under investigation." As we see, that backfired.
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>>129965349

Inadmissible, but also prejudicial. Any and all leaks are gonna receive national coverage, good fucking luck finding a Jury that could remain impartial, assuming how devastating the leak was, one way or another.

Also, no need to be so hostile, newfriend. Just a good natured discussion.
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>>129965509

No I'm on 4chan where I'm pretty sure most of the loli shit and the CP arrests come from.
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>>129965142
You're entire post is completely made up bullshit based on nothing but your feels
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>>129965445

Will he ever recover from those burns?
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>>129965822
>posting from 2006
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>>129965472
I'm not inclined to believe someone's a traitor based on literally zero evidence.

>>129965765
>media falls for more #FakeNews bullshit
>It...it was just a publicity stunt orchestrated by Drumpf to try to distract from his treason! Look how smart we are to have exposed it!
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>>129965770

You're correct, and I stated the same. Leaked bombshells can severely hurt the prosecution.

This includes an impartial jury. Honestly, leaks could help the defense immensely depending on the judge and the actual leak itself.

>>129966034

It won't take you long to find a thread defending pedophilia if you hit the /pol/ catalog
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>>129965765
>Where was this shown to be "bogus"?
Huckebee Sanders denied the accusation and said that Trump had no intention of firing him. The reporting was done based on some random faggot who never had any contact with the president. It's despicable reporting with no basis in reality and should be promptly retracted.
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>>129951314
>hey, flyn is a good guy and we already fired him. you mind backing off the investigation?
OH MY GOD, OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE!!! IMPEACH DRUMF, HE'S FINISHED!!!!
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>>129965142
>liberals are more critical of media
top lel
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>>129966176
go ahead and link one since you seem to know all about them pedo
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>>129966176

>It won't take you long to find a thread defending pedophilia if you hit the /pol/ catalog

Would take even less time on Twitter or Reddit, what's your point?
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>>129949711
>says the nazi
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>>129948317
Hi. I am just a random faggot but does not it make sense for Trump to be investigated in a case like this?

I mean if the investigation happens to take more than 1 month, then yeah its a political stunt. But Trump himself asked for special Counsel and if Trump did obstruct justice, Comey commuted perjury.

Think this situation true. Not everything has to be a trap by ((( them )))
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>>129966176
>It won't take you long to find a thread defending pedophilia if you hit the /pol/ catalog
>anonymous posters argue and shitpost amount a multitude of controversial and inflammatory topics
>this means 4chan is the nexus in the global pedophile network
lol
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>>129966215
Trump has regularly contradicted Huckabee Sanders and Spicer, so they are not valid sources of Trump's mindset.

>The reporting was done based on some random faggot who never had any contact with the president
The Newsmax CEO and Trump have been friends for years, talked on the phone last week, and Ruddy met with White house officials (but not Trump) the same day he decided to go on the news to talk about what Trump was planning to do.
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>>129951557
But Comey's own direct verbal testimony states that he does not think any obstruction of justice happened.
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>>129966774
>>129966453
>>129966453
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>>129966550
Meh, an investigation by itself means nothing. Sure it's a political stunt, but when we reach the point where democrats are seriously pushing impeachment and the public sees how fucking stupid this all is, it'll backfire. Clinton was accused of 100x as much "obstruction of justice" and his poll numbers went through the roof during impeachment.
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>>129966904

>But Comey's own direct verbal testimony states that he does not think any obstruction of justice happened.

Which is not his job. That's the job of a federal prosecutor. Which is exactly the said reason Comey was fired: because he "usurped" the power of federal prosecutors.

What is critical thinking LOL I DUNNO I JUST SAY STUFF LOL #MAGA
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>>129966816
>Trump has regularly contradicted Huckabee Sanders and Spicer, so they are not valid sources of Trump's mindset.
They are his official spokespeople and until demonstrated otherwise, what they say is the official stance of the white house.

>The Newsmax CEO and Trump have been friends for years, talked on the phone last week, and Ruddy met with White house officials (but not Trump) the same day he decided to go on the news to talk about what Trump was planning to do.
Exactly, this is bullshit reporting. He claims he heard all of this crap from some random, unnamed officials. Again, this should be retracted. What he said was not true.
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>>129966816
>The Newsmax CEO and Trump have been friends for years, talked on the phone last week, and Ruddy met with White house officials (but not Trump) the same day he decided to go on the news to talk about what Trump was planning to do.
And like clockwork, on cspan, we find out he publicized the story with the intent of illustrating for trump that he thinks it's a bad idea, and not because he thought it was a real possibility.

I wouldn't even be surprised if trump asked him to do this (under the pretenses of "I heard that it might happen from someone") in his regular course of A/B testing almost everything he does with the public.
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>>129966964

You didn't have a point, anon.

Degeneracy abounds, that isn't exactly sequestered to this place.
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>>129967380

Once again, read the thread. Jesus fuck.
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>>129966964
>whoa hey guys why are you zeroing in on this one small idiotic thing I said haha you're missing the point
ok, fair enough, I'll address the rest of what you've posted: you're fucking dumb lmao.
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>>129967475

Pointedly refute each statement.
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>>129967439

I already did.

Want to link me to some of your previous breads for more guidance?
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>>129967590

please, and pointedly refute them.

>protip: you can't
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>>129967562
make some coherent arguments.
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>>129967321
Are you retarded? He was the head of the FBI at the time it happened. You were so busy being a faggot that you forgot that you are stupid.
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>>129967704
The FBI doesn't prosecute dummy.
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>>129967704

LOL

THE FBI IS AN INVESTIGATIVE BODY

IT IS NOT A PROSECUTING BODY
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>>129967322
The official stance of the white house is not necessarily reality.

>>129967343
Ruddy specifically said that he believed Trump was seriously considering it, not that he (Ruddy) just had an opinion that it was wrong.
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Jesus you people are either stupid or willfully ignorant
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>>129967922
>media spins retarded clickbait headlines like "Trump is considering firing Mueller"
>buried in the page is some footnote about this coming from Mueller and the white house denying the claim
>honest reporting
This is literally fake news.
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>>129966904
Comey never said obstruction didn't happen. He said it would be investigated by Mueller and it wasn't appropriate for him to give his legal opinion on whether it occurred.

Comey did say he believed he was fired in order to influence the investigation, which amounts to belief in obstruction.
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>>129968182
>it's not appropriate for him to give his legal opinion on whether it occurred
>now let me tell you my legal opinion on whether it occurred
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>>129968146

I agree, this is spin. Until he moves to fire him (which he doesn't have the power to do) or recommends it, there's no story here
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>>129968302

Comey's legal opinion literally does not matter. That is the job of prosecutors WHICH IS THE REASON TRUMP FIRED COMEY
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>>129967681

Which, exactly? Because I already refuted your pedocentric gaslight. The "impartiality" of the investigation, and disproved the "evidence" of Russian tampering.
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>>129968769

No you literally didnt.
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