The problem isn't MGTOW. The problem is that the opponents of MGTOW (stormfront, jezebel) have shilled so fucking hard against MGTOW here that you all have internalized their strawman misrepresentation of it. You believe that MGTOW = abstaining from sex. That isn't what it means. Here, I'm going to repeat that last part in all caps for emphasis.
MGTOW =/= ABSTAINING FROM SEX
Pic related is an accurate depiction of a typical MGTOW
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSl7xmsJCqQ [Embed]
Do you believe that bachelors abstain from sex? Of course not. The only difference between MGTOW and bachelorhood is that society expects a bachelor to eventually "settle down" and start a family after he has finished sowing his oats. MGTOW are just bachelors who have the audacity to say, "my bachelorhood isn't a phase".
MGTOW isn't anything more than this. It isn't a movement, it is a lifestyle.
>you may now proceed to strawman what we are because you're intellectually incapable of formulating a logical argument against our actual position.
>>129947549
>MGTOW =/= ABSTAINING FROM SEX
then it's a degenerate jewish trick
if you're not looking to procreate, then you're engaging in fake deceptive relationships which destabilize communities.
sage
>>129947736
In the year 2060, the white race will constitute 10% of the world population. This is due to the fact that most white people live in more advanced cultures and they have access to cheap birth control and that western women have educations/careers and due to the fact that in Africa and southeast Asia, women do not have universal access to cheap birth control and they are generally uneducated/don't have career options. From now until 2060, Africa and southeast Asia will produce a shitload of children and the child production that occurs in those two continents will take the world population from 7 billion to 11.5 billion. There is no amount of fucking white people can do that will undo the demographic growth of those two peoples. Our fate as a minority on this planet is sealed. Aside from mass genocide or a plague, nothing will undo it.
But here's the thing. Despite white people being a minority, in 2060 there will be more than 1 BILLION of us. 10% of the population and still there will be a BILLION of us. The white race isn't going anywhere. The notion that we are under threat of extinction is propaganda stormfags use to grow their ranks here. Stop drinking their kool-aid and grow a pair.
>>129947878
>>129947736
He didn't say anything about race
>>129949047
argument is too strong so unrelated disinfo is used.. I'm used to this. Shills can't even deal with me any more.
>>129947878
Cool in 2060 there will be a billion whites and 20 billion non-whites so it's no consolation.
>>129949047
>then it's a degenerate jewish trick
Calling MGTOW a Jewish trick is a common denunciation of MGTOW commonly expressed by white nationalists who view MGTOW as a threat to white birth rates.
Although he didn't directly say it, it is obvious that he was implying it because he used the word Jewish.
>>129949722
didn't. said you were engaging in a false reality with fake relationships.
you're a degenerate.
>>129949462
White people are a minority now and they will be a minority in the future. But unlike you, I'm not a coward about it. I'm from the southern United States and my forefathers were surrounded by niggers and lived that way fearlessly for a reason. Niggers are dumb. As white people see themselves become less and less of the world population, they will unite and as the smartest group on the planet, we will dominate as we always have.
Where you see more brown people, I see more cheap labor. Why the fuck would you be afraid of that, unless of course, you're a manual laborer, lol
>>129949865
>pretending you're not a white nationalist.
>>129950309
>I think you're an x because y
>well because you called me an x you're a Z
>yeah but what about y
>doesn't matter you're a z
>>129951201
Being against national socialism doesn't make someone anti-white.
National socialism is a despicable form of governance that stifles liberty and freedom of expression.
Dissent has value. A position being able to withstand dissent is how you determine whether or not a position is correct, but with National socialism, you'll get shot for expressing it. You stormfags do not have a monopoly on white pride and you do not get to dictate terms.
Also, recommending to anons that they avoid marriage is the equivalent of recommending to a stranger that they go see a movie. It isn't a big deal and it requires very little effort. This is the perfect forum to issue this recommendation. Someone has to counterbalance the stormfag "extinction" bullshit that goes on here and since this isn't a white nationalist forum, I'm allowed to.
The Nazis on this board are leading my fellow white men into financial ruin solely because they're cowards who believe being surrounded by cheap labor is threatening for some inexplicable reason and someone has to call them out on their bullshit.
>>129947549
ANOTHER.
FUCKING.
MGTOW.
THREAD.
SAGE...
>>129954489
What's the matter? Is your position so weak that it cannot withstand debate?
>>129951789
National socialism has not been brought up at all in this entire discussion until you brought it up. While I can accept that there are different flavors of white nationalism, I have no idea how one who acts like Quagmire would ever be able to care about the chicks he's banging, but only cared that they could get laid tonight
>>129947549
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>>129947549
In the history books, if white genocide occurs, MGTOW will be remembered as cowards that wouldn't even fight.
You haven't been shilled into shame. You did that to yourselves.
>Whining and complain, unwilling to fight
>Surprised having trouble at maintaining a relationship
Sort yourselves out.