THE DEATH OF AMERICA

>>129946724
Because how do you fight people eating food? What kind of legislation can make people take up diets?

>>129946724
Because muh freedumbs

>>129946724
Because life sucks and food is the only legitimate legal drug

>>129946724
Holy fuck. How'd you get so fat? You been drinking butter?

Freedom with nothing to live for and no responsibility. Lets make some laws to solve the problem instead of fixing ourselves!

>>129947130
something happened in the south. I'm not sure what.

People in Texas aren't just fat, they're dinosauric.

this is why we need fat shaming

>>129946724
>the blackest states spreading obesity

I am not surprised

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>>129947130
Wait is that bad?

>>129946896
Reduce sugar content on all processed food and drinks (harder than it sounds but it could be done).
Increase fiber content on wheat based products.
Tax unhealthy food, subsidize healthy food, force fast food restaurants and such to serve both alternatives.

>>129946896
>>129947131
I'm not even saying we need to introduce some more legislation, the point is this is a HUGE problem and NO ONE IS EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT. Look up any listen of domestic policy issues, doesn't even matter what side of the spectrum. Privacy, guns, drugs gerrymandering, etc. You will never see ANY list that talks about the obesity epidemic.

I'm sure there are some laws that can help, but we seriously need to start fat shaming or something to get people motivated.

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>>129946724
American culture is all about appealing to the lowest common denominator.
We can't have nice food because that would be elitist and snobby so instead of have mountains of cheap shit. Be more is objectively better even if it makes you obese even after you throw half of it away.


Cultural development creating good behaviors around food isn't possible because people move around too often.
It's ridiculous how everyone has fallen for the gimmick. You're a snob if you want to eat food that isn't mass produced.

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>>129946724
This is the government's fault. In the late 70's/early 80's they demonized fats and told everyone they need to eat tons of carbs instead. Got everyone hooked on carbs and sugar. See pic.

>>129948435
It quite literally demonizes sweets there
Also no one in their entire life actually cared about the food pyramid

>>129949511
Eh I don't know. I can remember be taught this specifically as a little kid, I assume there must be some kids that had it stick?

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>>129946724
>tfw colorado

>>129946896
>Because how do you fight people eating food? What kind of legislation can make people take up diets?

What's changed since 1990? I think that's the real issue. Hint, it's (((sugar))). It's in everything.

>>129949511
>It quite literally demonizes sweets there
>Also no one in their entire life actually cared about the food pyramid

Bread and carbs are basically converted to sugar when you eat them.

If you want to be healthy eat vegetables, meat, fish, beans, etc. Most forms of fats like oil and butter are fine. Low fat foods are higher in sugar. They're worse than eating regular fat foods. Fat is filling, sugar isn't.

The entire bottom row of the food pyramid is why we're all fat fucks.

>>129946724
It's because it is considered a hate crime to make fun of fat people now. When I was a little kid we would yell at fat kids about how fat they were and push them over. By the time I hit the 6th grade they had started the "zero tolerance for bullying" crap.
I can't even imagine making a fat joke in the workplace. Most of the people there are fat (Texas).
There are almost no social functions for family / coworkers here which do not heavily feature food, and all the Texans do sick shit like put marshmallows on Yams and act like it's a regional delicacy. Then there's the fucking macaroni which never ends.

>>129946724
Body acceptance and high fructose corn syrup with a new dosage of GMO foods.

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Obviously the legalization of weed will reverse this trend...right?

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>>129947952
Biggest problem in my opinion is that it is almost taboo to talk about obesity for what it is, a major health and in many cases a major self control issue. Instead it's treated like some kind of characteristic that you can't change such as race or gender.

While at the same time the aforementioned characteristics are treated as fluid which completely discredits the genuine problems and struggles suffered by those groups.

I have yet to see a single major public figure, be it a politician, a newscaster, or even a celebrity publicly say that fat people are unhealthy.

Nobody gets mad at you for saying someone with lung cancer isn't healthy but as soon as you mention that someone who is consuming 10,000 calories a day and who weighs 400 lbs and has suffered six heart attacks isn't healthy you're a fucking bigot.

Leftism is a fucking plague.

because people haven't pushed hard enough for it.

McDonalds got pushed hard enough that they added healthier food options for kids (apple slices, milk, etc) and have removed HFCS from their burger buns.

the big issue here is portion sizes have skyrocketed and everything is loaded with sodium and HFCS.

this started in the 80's, when sugar in soft drinks and sodas was replaced by HFCS due to a huge health push against sugar.

I really dont know what about HFCS makes it cheaper or more attractive nowadays, I assume its something to do with cost, but in general portion size, and sodium need to be reduced. But then people will just buy something else. it needs to be an industrywide push. And where need be, there should be legislation.

NYC's emperor Bloomberg had the right idea when he targeted huge cup sizes, but just outright banning large cups was the wrong way to go about it.

i dont know what the right way is though, probably education.

>>129946724
>>129946724
Michelle Obama introduced healthy school lunches for children. But drumpf shut it down.

>>129946724
The goyim need to be fattening up before the daily sacrifices

>>129946724
>BMI

>>129947482
kek

>>129946896
We could have the FDA be run by doctors with a holistic backdrop instead of lawyers figuring out what legally constitutes "food"

>>129946724
>BMI
>Prime Michael Jordan was obese under BMI

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>>129947493
>Tax unhealthy food, subsidize healthy food
this is how you get your guns taken away

>>129946724

Look at the map--its mostly a conservashit problem. Fuck them, rampant diabetes means they will die off faster so I see no problems with it.

>>129954478
Typical retarded burger.

>>129954462
6'5" 210 is obese?

>>129954652
a fucking leaf

TAX ON SODA..
MORE REVENUE
MORE FOODSTAMPS...

Result: More purchases of Cheese Doodles, Whoppers, Fried Chicken...Chips and other edible shit.
.
You can't fix stupid.

>>129954878
>trying to legislate against a self-control thing
it's impossible to do so

>>129946724

>death of america
>not charting beaner colonization

>>129946724
The 2 big issues are rural areas and suburbs. If you go into any major city you will be hard-pressed to find somebody horrifically obese.

The problem in the outer regions is because jobs that once were manual labor are now automated. Farmers sit in combines all day, suburbanites sit at desks, and both drive everywhere.

I went to college in the city and work there now, and I am amazed how much activity I do just passively. I walk on average about 5-7 miles a day, and if I need to pick up groceries or go to a bar I just walk a mile or so. Yeah I'll drive from time to time, but in the suburbs it's impossible to walk anywhere.

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>>129954462
>tfw everyone thinks im thin and fit
>tfw my BMI is 27

>>129955122
>live in city
>have to pay $2000 a month just to rent a place
>more crime
>no space
>have to walk everywhere like a peasant

It's not the state's fault that you're a bunch of lazy bastards.

>>129954746
>>129954462
>>129947493

If you fucks introduce some sort of "fat tax" I'm going to be pissed

My BMI is "overweight" but I'm fairly thin and fit. I need to eat a lot of food to keep my strength up. Taxing individuals by BMI or taxing food products to make them more expensive is just going to make it more difficult to be fit and strong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWN13pKVp9s

What he doesn't mention is that the US is so safe from invasion due to the assumption of a partially competent civilian militia. When everyone is obese that will not be the case anymore.

>>129946724
Because our entire agricultural system turns out shitty food lacking in proper nutrition. It contains tons of sugars though. Add to that a sedentary lifestyle, and you get a bunch of lardasses.

>>129956006
Being capable of defending your own nation is a duty which must be enforced if it is to survive and be independent.

There is no liberty without duty.

>>129951619
>help reform marijuana laws.
>normi.,
wat

are you people dumb? That's a fucking lie that the majority of people 30+ are below 9.9% BMI in 1990 and all of a sudden it sky rocketed in 2015. To give you an idea what what 9.9% is, that's like super buff dude mode skinny.

20% is what most skinny people are at anyways and is pretty average.

>>129946896

Dunno, do you burgers teach people basic nutritional facts in school?

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>>129946724

>>129956034
>everyone
Even if this trend continues upward, it's going to tail off. At least half of the country is sane enough not to do this to their bodies.

>>129947130
it's the sugar.

>>129956034
I guess I should also mention that BMI is going to encompass everyone who lifts weights as well. I'm not fat and I've never been fat in my life but I weigh 210 at 6'1" and am very muscular. My BMI is almost certainly in the overweight category even though you could find a handful of fat anywhere on my body to grab. It's a shit metric.

>>129956494

The map is showing percentage of obese adults. The color does not refer to body fat percentage.

>>129955811
the fda is a corrupt piece of shit

>>129956762
This

The American diet is LOADED with sugar

>>129957484

Eh, im not so sure about this. Sugar in itself isn't bad. I think if more Americans simply recorded their calorie intake and macro breakdown they would make better choices overall.

at least my state is okay

>>129956834
You mentioned BMI, not me. The link I provided was in regards to obesity.

>>129956656
Nice assumption. Why do you think that would be the case? What evidence is there for that?

>>129957787
glucose isn't that bad but fructose is
sugar contains 50% fructose
not only that but it's empty calories

>>129958223

Yeah. It can be difficult to get a good balance of protein, fats, and fibers in your diet if you just consume sugars.

>>129953405
This. /pol/ can't prove this wrong. /pol/ is a giant bigoted fag box of edgy cunts

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>>129953012

>Stands in your path
>"How dare you bodyshame me, you shitlord?"

>>129958111
All of the young people I know are focused on staying fit and healthy, as much as is reasonably possible. The only fat fucks I know are all older and lazy. There's just no way that trend is linear and even if it is then it's not a big deal as they'll kill themselves off with their poor diets. "Fat acceptance" isn't a thing to most people who aren't pathetically stupid.

The point was that BMI doesn't account for muscular people every single NFL player is obese if you go by BMI. It's largely a useless metric. There needs to be a better system to measure your actual fat% or at least heart health. That's all.

>>129946724
I blame the internet. And mom's not cooking home cooked meals anymore.

>>129946896
Fat tax. Japan has one.

>>129947130
Niggers and their gibs. Also, loads of carbs and lack of self-discipline.

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>>129946724

>FATSHAMIN

FUCK YOU! My body is CURVY as fuck!


>>129947130

What's wrong with drinking butter? You fatphobia

>>129946724
Trump is obese and he's the healthiest president to ever hold office, his doctor said so. Obesity is natural.

>>129946724
THE FLAGS ARE BACK

>>129948435
basically this
fats aren't bad for you with the exception of trans fats and make you feel more full

>>129946724
>tfw 5'7" and 190 lbs.
At least I'm not counted. Yet.

>>129959785
dont forget about mexicans, indians are allways overweight

>>129946724
Its the (((big bad wolf))) fattening up little red riding hood.
You been warned and warned and warned of Der Jude. But you don't read your history books. You read (((THEIR))) history books.

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>>129960096

>implying

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>>129960271

Pretty much this

>>129946724
>mfw glorious CO

Nuke the south

Ban fast food, and give people tax incentives to cook food at home. Cooking food is MUCH healthier.

>>129946724
Speaking of what we should do... does anyone have that video with the guy talking about throwing politicians off buildings or something like that?

Americans would have to give up working forty hours a week at a desk job to cut down on obesity.

>>129960341
Whta do you mean by this, m8? I haven't posted for some days now kek. Too bad they don''t say the countryes any longer (to detect nigs)

>>129949511 In school, I learned about it then forgot it two hours latter. It has ZERO effect.

>>129956506
>black lifes matter flags
god keked so hard

>>129946724
The government uses food to keep the people complicit. There has never been a revolution run or fought by fatties. Only people who are starving fight in revolutions.

>>129950766
It's not even real sugar its HFCS. The massive power of the corn lobby gives us some of the most expensive sugar in the world. It's why were the only country with HFCS soda and not sugar soda.

>>129946724
No politician is gonna do it because of lobbyists. The food lobby is massively powerful

>>129961675
sugar is 50% fructose
hfcs is like 55% fructose
it doesn't really make a difference

>>129956006

>it's not all fat guys, trust me, I have lots of muscle underneath

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>>129947130
IT ISN'T A STEREOTYPE SEND HELP PLEASE

>>129946724
Wtf happened in the last 20 years? It's not like food suddenly got cheap in 1990. Did half the country just suddenly give up their self respect? I feel like maybe the obesity epidemic is just a symptom of some bigger psychological problem, like Americans lost so much of their individualism self-determination that many of them are just not trying anymore.

>>129962128
nice try agriculture jew

>>129956006
"I'm not like the other fattys"

>>129962453
>he thinks the BMI takes muscle mass into account
>implying American children, especially males, aren't put in sports that encourage muscle growth
Not to defend the excuse, but BMI isn't the end all be all of healthy weight scales.

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>>129947302
>this is why we need fat shaming

When I first started on /pol a few years ago, there was fat-shaming Friday every week. It's been gone for a while now.

>>129946896

Tax soda.

>>129957787
>Sugar in itself isn't bad
If you ate 1600 kcals in pure carbs, no matter what kind of carbs, you will gain weight because of the insulin response.

Kcals in < out is true if you eat a balanced diet, but most Americans don't. It's fast or frozen food loaded up with sugar. It's chemically designed to make you keep buying the product.

>>129951197
>basically converted to sugars
>that makes them bad
Learn how your metabolism works. Sugars and carbs aren't inherently bad, but anything in excess can cause harm.

>>129963129
>BMI isn't the end all be all of healthy weight scales
It is when it comes to populations as a whole.

>>129946724
I'd like to see a chart of only white people's obesity rates plotted over time. I have a strong feeling that these data are skewed by recent arrivals of Mexican immigrants, who are almost always slightly overweight. I've honestly never seen a thin Mexican who was over the age of 25.

>>129963150
fat-shaming is a sctrictly leftist agenda. Trump is obese and his doctor said he is the healthiest person to ever become president. Obesity is normal you fucking shill.

beaners

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>>129963432
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>>129962128
>another anon that thinks they metabolize exactly the same
brainlet. sucrose is fine in normal portions (ie: not in everything), but manufactured syrups are extremely concentrated, which makes rough on your metabolism. Also is quite dense calorie wise.

>>129946724

That's why socialized medicine is bad. The new health plan will kill tens of thousands of our fattest and sickest. I don't like the GOP, and I hate that they want to distribute the money saved to the rich, but the fat need to lose their healthcare for the USA to succeed

>>129961675
>It's not even real sugar its HFCS

What does this even mean?
There are thousands of different sugars. Fructose is one of them.
Sucrose, or cane sugar, which is what you are thinking of as "sugar", will get you just as fat as fructose. DOn't believe me? Just look at Mexico--they use sucrose exclusively yet the obesity rate there is greater than in USA.

>>129963615
surcrose breaks down to glucose and fructose easily

>>129963594
fuck right, marry left, kill libido

>>129956204
>regurgitating propoganda
Good goyim. Don't forget to buy your soy products at whole foods!

>>129947130
black people fry everything and devour fast food

>>129963689
>>129962128
my point that I didnt really make was that corn lobbys are some of the biggest and most influential so that shit is not going anywhere. It's gonna be in everything until we can get undue influence out of politics

>>129963264
You'd have to tax it at $0.20 per oz to prevent people from drinking it.

>>129956851
>obese adults
If it doesn't include children until they are of age, then the chart is showing a delayed effect. Obesity starts in childhood, so childhood obesity is a better metric for predicting obesity rates in the future.

>>129947302
>>129946724
You'd see the same trend with dudes taking it up the pooper. Because we're accepting of all kinds, yay! Fatness is the latest sickness we have to love.

(((Uncle Sam))) wants us sicker. Nothing will be done about fatties. I mean, some fatphobes will get fired, but then our hearts will grow three sizes & we will learn to accept their wide-as-a-four-lane-intersectionality and give them free SAT points proportional to BMI.

>>129963960
yeah I see now

>>129964113
You don't even have to tax it. Set a price floor. No corporation is going to complain about legally mandated price hikes, and you still get the discouraging effect.

>>129953405
The lunches became goop that not even illegal beaners would eat

>>129958223
>another brainlet doesn't understand the concept of metabolism
It doesn't just magically become fructose when it hits your gut, you know. Also complex sugars are way better for you than simple augara, which is why HFCS is such a big problem.

>>129963907
Gross. Put your flag back on, Leaf.

>>129963313
>pure carbs
brainlet

>>129963432
This is true, much like crime, obesity wouldn't be as much of a problem if you didn't count the niggers and spics.

>>129964459
true because complex sugars break down slower and because they convert into 100% glucose
they're usually referred to as carbs

>>129962607
How in the fuck could a person consume that? I can't even begin to conceive how a human's stomach could manage something so unhealthy. Honestly, America, you need to take action.

>>129959402
No, they don't. A company debated having one for its employees and they never even went through with it.

>>129953405

Actually Michelle's bullshit lunch program left kids starving. She didn't take into account their school activities, how much physical activity they actually do, the fact they are growing, the fact they have higher metabolisms.
Her rabbit food lunches left kids starving and no one was eating it. Everyone brought their shit to school instead. It's because both Obama's were total fucking morons.

>>129963838
The point is that it MUST be broken down before it can be digested. This takes time, which means all of that energy isn't released at once, and then converted to fat (the body will not waste energy).
So with fructose, all of the energy is "released", goes to the muscles and gets used. The excess will be converted to fat.
With complex sugars, the energy isn't "released at once" like with fructose, so you are not going to get as much excess energy.

less excess energy = less fat production

This is also why processed foods are so bad for you, as they generally use fructose as a sweetener, and also essentially "pre-process" your complex food molecules, thus allowing your body to absorb faster. This isn't good if said person is concerned about weight gain.

>>129964850
They weren't morons, it's just that doing things like legitimately improving school lunches wasn't important to them.

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>>129946724
>(((BMI)))

>>129964362
>No corporation is going to complain about legally mandated price hikes
I'm sure Coca Cola and Pepsi would go out of their way to complain since they purposely target poor demographics. The latter already made a shitstorm after Philadelphia passed its soda tax earlier this year.

>>129964751
>into 100% glucose
It must be converted, which takes time. This is what is referred to as your metabolism.
Know how people are said to have fast/slow metabolisms? It is generally the rate you break down and digest things.
Simple sugars take little to no effort to break down, and as such will digest faster. Complex sugars must be broken down first, adding more time to the entire process.

How do you think certain foods keep you "full" for longer compared to others? This is how.

>>129965113
>The point is that it MUST be broken down before it can be digested. This takes time, which means all of that energy isn't released at once, and then converted to fat (the body will not waste energy).
simple sugars aka sucrose, fructose, glucose, dextrose don't need to be broken down
>So with fructose, all of the energy is "released", goes to the muscles and gets used. The excess will be converted to fat.
I think you're mixing up glucose with fructose because fructose is metabolized by the liver 100%

>>129965461
did you read what I said?

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>>129946724
As the U.S. continues to become more Mestizo, it will become more obese -- Ethnic Mexican Mestizos are some of the fattest people in the world. Take a look at any group of Mexican-America kindergartens and you will see immediately that most of them are fat. Also, our black population is very overweight, although that demographic will likely remain static for some time as a percentage of the population. This is not to say that white Americans are not overweight -- They are -- But it's important to understand that much of the "growing U.S. obesity epidemic" is due to our changing genetics with regard to white ethnic replacement.

>>129946724
>Why does no one care?
Why should i give a fuck about fatties as long as im not footing the bill?

>>129962607
>>129964769
There is no scenario that I can imagine myself drinking that without throwing up.

>>129955122
You're a fucking liar. I've lived in te city of Orlando and the amount of fat fucks there is fucking retarded. I can only imagine the problem is just as bad if not worse in New York and LA.

>>129962607
>diabetes in a cup

>>129966063
This true, we fat

>>129965865
Not entirely, no. Realized my mistake after.
>>129965805
My mistake, but then those simple sugars have complex sugars they are broken down from.

Point I was getting at is that those simple sugars are achieved through processing, which is the real cause of the obesity epidemic. A return to less processed cooking methods, and thus an increase of complex sugars in one's diet, helps greatly with obesity.

So with that in mind, nutritional education is probably the best way to combat obesity. Unfortunately our education system is kind of shit too. Probably inherently related to the obesity epidemic, honestly.

On a different note, how much did your health class teach nutritional stuff? Personally, mine didn't at all. I also live in one of the most obese states. Pretty sure it's connected.

>>129964831
U wot?

>Japan implemented the 'metabo' law which included the measurement of waist sizes in 2008 in attempt to overcome increasing obesity rates. The New York Times wrote: "To reach its goals of shrinking the overweight population by 10 percent over the next four years and 25 percent over the next seven years, the government will impose financial penalties on companies and local governments that fail to meet specific targets. The country’s Ministry of Health argues that the campaign will keep the spread of diseases like diabetes and strokes in check."[27] The 'metabo' law involved conducting an annual waist measurement check of people aged between 40 and 75, which was administered by employers and local government.[28] The role of employers and local government was to ensure there was a minimum of 65% participation, with a goal to decrease Japan's obesity rates by 25% by 2015 and failure to meet these goals results in a fine.[28]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_tax#Japan

>>129946724
Now show the racial diversity over time. Like crime, fatness and poor health correlates with niggers

>>129946896
By artificially limiting the supply of food

>>129946724
Almost all black and Mexican women are fat. It's like 90%.

>>129966477
Yea sorry, thats our bad

>>129946724
Most of that is due to mexican immigration. All mexicans are fat as fuck.

>>129946724
It's the boomers getting older.

It's fine if they die more quickly. We can't afford to pay their welfare anyway.

>>129967096
>he bought into the "boomer hate" divide and conqueror strategy, brought to us by (((them)))
Turning the children against their parents is the first thing on the list of all subversion attempts.

>>129966501
not much besides the food pyramid and that fats are bad

>>129946724

This is why we need free healthcare for all.
WAKE UP AMERICA

>>129967096
This too, but it's mostly due to mexicans. I know some cali or tex anon can back me up on this.

>>129964614
What do you think Americans eat? Pastry for breakfast, burger n fries for lunch, and pasta for dinner.

>>129967283
I find that a lot of our societal problems can be traced to poor education. Unfortunately that system is worse than our obesity issues. Both issues are targeted at children, too.

Just goes to show that those interested in ideological subversion always aim for the children first. They fill their curriculum with propaganda, leaving no room for legitimate things like nutritional health and other everyday things an educated society must know.

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If you haven't seen this yet you need to. I'm not sure if this doctor is a villain or a saint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqf_SIQ3JAk

>>129968194
buh-buh-buh-buh-bretty gud

>>129968194
I'd eat that desu

>>129953012
The "research" and "journalism" around by obesity is defeatist garbage.
>actually 99% of people who diet gain it back AND more.
>studies have shown
I was a fat kid because I had a mom that enabled no compulsory behavior. Once I hit 20 or so and wasn't getting laid I said fuck all that and I've been in shape for 14 years now, currently hovering around 11 or 12%, and I lift. The fact that my diet worked then makes me a statistical anomaly according to them. That's just not the case, I don't have special abilities and I have average will power. My initial diet was terrible, literally just subway and big plates and low fat pasta and slim fast shakes. Actually pretty big amounts of carbs, and IF before that was even a thing. Now I'm on another planet compared to most people but they repeat "diets don't work." They do. People don't work.

People believe that they're stuck that way because our culture loves victims for some reason.

>>129968787
most people who diet cut out fat first
turns out fat make you feel full the most

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>>129962607
>2600 empty calories
2600 calories is about as much as a normal person should consume in an entire day to maintain their weight.
Holy insulin spike from that 'dessert'.

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>>129946724
they need a new 40%+ category