Why is pol against socialism? Are you all rich or just cucks?

Bruh, you're addressing a board where at least 50% of it's users identify as NatSoc.

Socialism is scary, Senator Goldberg said that if socialism takes hold in America, Jewish people who have worked hard their entire lives to earn billions will be forced to give some of it to dirty poor people

>>129926087
Republicans are against paid maternity leave for mother's.

Why is this?

>>129926087
then why are you a republicuck?

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>>129925200
Because this, we don't want to take care of lazy fucks.

>>129925200
Socialism work with people willing to work. 99% of niggers and arabs doesnt want to work.

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We know things...

Good luck in college. When you acquire life experience and more knowledge, you'll understand.

>>129926299
It's satire, my fellow hilldawg.

Hard to say. It's been working so well everywhere.

>>129925200
guaranteed job. lmao!

if only it was that simple

stupid leftists and their non-logic

>>129926498
Translation: some socialism works in all-white countries.

>>129926344
this, a basic security grid for the very poor is good to help them, but the more social services you implement, the more taxes you have to take and the more powerful the state gets as he redistributes the wealth, which many oppose

>>129925200
I'd like to know why anyone would be a socialist these days.

What does Marxism do these days? I just seems to be focused on abolishing national sovereignty and the rule of law while putting guns in the hands of social, religious, political and ethnic minorities telling them to rebel.

That's no system of politics, that's a system of destruction. It has no answers, only creates its own problems which it then fails to fix.

>>129926731
*as it

>>129925200
>impoverished Mexicans cross the border to shit out children for citizenship
>niggresses have 6 kids to increase their welfare checks
>1 in three children are born live in poverty!
really made me think

>>129925200
Is anyone in that picture Finnish?
I don't see even one knife.

>>129926626
unemployment in a lot of europistan is around 6-7% and thats probably with the same BS statistics where they don't count the people that have given up.

>>129926568
>good luck in college

I'm in college and I'm a socialist.

>>129925200
>wealth should be redistributed because I'm a failure who can't provide for myself

The only cuck here is you.

>>129925200
One in three kids live in poverty? Id say its more like three out of three. Kids in the states dont have jobs. Their median income is $0. They are lazy, and a drain on society. Asian countries still practice child labor, thats why China is ripping us off in trade.

>>129926776
the solution is revolution after it breaks everything.
It just hasn't broken everything yet so you dont see the solution....yet

Thats the way Marxism is designed.

>>129926232
My business has nothing to do with raising children. Why should I pay my employees to stay home and raise theirs? I can't afford that, you think I should hire a temp and pay both people for one job?

I'd rather hire all men.

>>129925200
>America is around 2/3 white
>1/3 American kids are in poverty

Hmmmm really makes me think

>>129926682
asians work too.

>>129926915
>>129926807

You can't complain about declining white birth rates and then be against maternity leave like Republicans are.

>>129925200
<le_happy_merchant.jpg>

cos they think the red pill is any different from the blue

The thing is, most western socialists only want the top three things, not the bottom two. The top three benefits only work because youths are also given responsibilities.

The reality is that if commiefornia instituted similar policies, you end up with a bunch of dindus claiming gimmeats, but not participating in the guaranteed work that's available or the youth parliament.

>>129925728
>at least 50% of it's users identify as NatSoc.
Only because of the nifty uniforms, and the holocaust (which they both deny happened and fap over).
Real Nazis were lefties, but their modern admirers are righties.

>>129926232

I don't know about Republicans but many here are against it because stealing is wrong.

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>>129927023
to help whites to have more baby ?

>>129927085
yes you can.

don't go spending all your shekels in one place.

>>129925200

Socialism can only work in a high mean IQ Ethnostate.

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>>129925200
We don't have anything against Socialism. It just needs a healthy dose of nationalism.

We have a problem (((communism))) however.

Because of its dysgenic effects. I'm not against socialism in theory, but we must look at all programs from a eugenic perspective.

>>129925200
>implying finland exists

>>129925200

That's bullshit.

Leftists also like to spew shit like "FINLAND HAS NO HOMEWORKS" on FB and I prsonally know finns, I know that's fucking retarded.

But they assume, hey Finland is a small country, nobody heard about it, we can make bullshit about it easy.

Guaranteed job is something I can 100% say is false too, you gotta look for work like anywhere. else.

>>129926232
We are against women working

>>129925200
>1/3 kids live in poverty

I bet they define poverty as going to starbux only once a week.

And what the fuck is a 'garenteed job', so if you dont have one thell just, make something up for you to do and you get money?

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>>129927023
>natsoc
>against maternity leave

Wut?

>>129926731
not to mention the more you support the poor, the more poor those poor make

>>129926682
thats why gulags exist

I don't want to be forced to share my things. I want the freedom to choose how I help and who I help, that way I can be more productive to my community and social circles. I want to work hard and rightfully earn a paycheque, accomplishment, fulfillment not handed out from a faceless government. Do you fear hard work fellow leaf? Do you not like the idea of each being held accountable for your own actions? Is it a big responsibility to take your life into your own hands and make of it what you will? Is it perhaps because your will is undirected, inexperienced, and a carbon copy of everyone else's?

>>129925200
>Richest nation in the world
>At the same time 17 trillion in debt
Um okay

>>129927023
jesus christ how retarded can you be

>>129925200
I'm a cuck because I don't want to support filthy niggers and others who made bad life choices. Makes perfect sense if you're a liberal halfwit.

>>129925200
You don't have a right to anyone else's labor. It's really that simple.

>>129925200
>one in three kids live below poverty
>America is 60% white and 6% Asian

Wow really makes you think OP is a faggot.

>>129925200
Socialism is for people who suck at life, and need to use the force of government to steal shit for them.

>>129927924
Also, people are not equal. Some people suck. Anyone who wants equality is a fucking idiot, and is probably one of the shitty useless people.

>>129925200

Fake news from leaf all day long. Kys.

>paid parental leave
<sure, people making 100k year get taxed 60%, :------D
>free healthcare
<not for long, semi-privatized is coming in a few months, say hello to insurance payments AND still get taxed like Hitler
>basic income
<??????? no
>guaranteed job for everyone under 25
>not really, 400k of 5.4 finns are jobbles
>youth parliament
<they have no voting power :--D

Fuck off. Finland is going down hard, thank socialism.

900k of 5.4m finns leave in poverty (under 1090e/kk, which is nothing)

Socialism was the biggest mistake in the history of the mankind.

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>>129927233
>muh taxes are theft

Kys greedy kike

We have this thing called language and people wrote down how shitty socialism always ends up.

>>129928198
Get a job you fucking NEET.

You would think that if this worked Finland would have a really high fertility rate.

>>129927490
This I never understood. Here, if two parents work, the living costs are so-so met. I understand there was a time, when a wife would stay at home and the husband's paycheck would cover everything but those days are gone. Not even sure, if they ever existed here.

see how well socialism works for you when your mudslime migration is complete

>>129927827
that's what Marx said

>>129928324
I'm not a neet I'm in college and my parents pay so I don't need to work yet.

>>129928454
What are you studying?

>>129928086
Stop lying you VPN using libertarian filth.

>>129928553
Chemical Engineering at Uvic

>>129925200
Hello Chaim Gabowicz,
socialism is not good, thank you.

Also go and gas yourself with Zyklon B you Jewish Canuckcuck!

>>129925200

No, I am not rich.
But Socialism spreads poverty, not wealth.

And also, it is wrong from any point of view you chose and it's a Jewish idea to undermine European Civilisation.

>>129928076
Exactly, equal opportunity =/= equal outcome. We have equal opportunity here. And people start ranting about privilege maybe their own families need to spend a generation or two with their nose to the gindstone and make life better for their future generations. My family was dirt poor the last 2 generations. My grandparents worked hard and left an estate to my parents, Then my parents worked hard ad have a huge estate they are going to leave for me. And I am working hard to make my family's life easier and better, the cycle continues. Nignogs just live in the moment and have no self control. Thats why they spend all their money on shit like Jordans and Beats Headphones and never get ahead. Time value of money.

>>129927611
well you can tax those who can afford it a little more so that the middle class isn't endangered.
Tax rates like here in germany however are just completely insane, people work half a year for the state and that money is used so inefficiently or outright wasted

>>129925200

1) Finland won't exist in 20 years.

2) Finland hasn't had the racial demographics of America, so of course there hasn't been a big problem there, yet.

>>129925200
Finland is a culturally homogenous country.

>>129928454
You're a dumb kid that doesn't know shit. You're young, so maybe there's hope for you. I won't tell you to KYS until you get into the real world and haven't smartened up.

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>>129928384
>I understand there was a time, when a wife would stay at home and the husband's paycheck would cover everything but those days are gone.
That's called the American Dream; being able to support a household off of on income. Women joining the workforce ruined that since the economy obviously can't account for a 100% increase in labor supply. Feminism killed the American Dream.

>>129928755
>calls me a Jew
>supports (((capitalism)))

>>129925200

By the way, go see the suicide rate for people under 25 in Finland and compare it to the rest of the world, like America...

Finland is becoming shit thanks to Socialism. It would be better for the (Nation-) State to present all young men in the nation with their responsabilities and duties and rights and tell them: You have the supreme power as long as you produce economically and have children and don't do shit against your neighbours.

That's not socialism, that's traditional European society, early Roman style.

>>129925200
Some Socialism is required in the mechanisation/automation era. Countries like Finland and France go a bit too far (57% of GDP is the total of public spending) but something like 45% is optimal.

It is inherently disordered, in that many forms take away people's freedom to own property.

If you see poverty in a socialist country, too bad, you have next to nothing to help your neighbor with, just gotta hope the righteous and just government will help them.

>>129928967
I like this, I'm saving it.

>>129928694
Cool. I can't wait until you are paying 29% of your earnings to house and feed brown people from 3rd world countries that were brought into Canada because baby boomers love socialism SO much, they didn't think ahead to having enough kids to keep the ponzi scheme (healthcare, pensions) going.

>>129927580
>natsoc
>for women in the workforce
Wut?

>>129929096
People are depressed because its -40 Celsius everyday for 9 months of the year.

>>129926232

I suspect its because most mothers are either African Asian or "Mexican". Most of those are also dirt poor and have not contributed to the well being of america for generations the way most white people have...

>>129925200
>Finland
>99% white

Hmm I wonder

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>>129925200
Gibs are the ultimate manifestation of the overprotective mother. By always providing for the citizen the government is preventing the person from becoming an independent adult. Its evil disguised as virtue.

>>129927580

half of the people with natsoc flags are american edgy kids with 0 knowledge of what nacionalsocialism stands for, and usually tend to be more economically liberal than a fucking rothschild

>>129926776
>conflating marxism with socialism
the empty populism of marxism has been taken over by the right and limousine left nowadays anyways. Couple of empty slogans, vague promises of an improvement of life to lull the suffering of your sovereign citizens, cheap ploys and praying on your people's suffering to get yourself elected to continue to churn out cash.
obama,trump,macron,may are all prime examples.

God forbid people whose rights are being tread on and who are treated as 19th century field niggers are fed up with the system

>>129925200
>basic income for minors
That's income for the parents in case they need help raising the child. Some families do give that to the child as allowance or savings.
>guaranteed job for everyone under 25
If you agree to a wage that barely pays you a nice hot meal, yeah.

/pol/ is against socialist ways because it only works in a white autistic country of no more than 6 million people.
Try socialism in murrica and the whole country is on fire.

>>129926682

A few socialism works in almost all white countries as long as there is no real threath to them.
Like Scandinavia when Germany, the U.K. and Russia will not invade...

For fuck sakes Brits, can't you take over Scandi?
Make an empire out of Norway and Denmark? I'd love to be a part of it.

No hate scandi friends, it's just that you are a real cuck infestad disgrace... Britain will eventually need space to dump all its "enrichers"...

>one of the highest IQ and most homogenous countries in the world
>America is filled with poor niggers and spics
>LET THAT SINK IN DUMPFKINS

>>129925200
With out scrolling through the posts yet, I'm going to tell you it should be obvious why this sort of quasi-socialism (which is hardly socialism, just sensible welfare consciousness) works in a country that is 98% white.
>>129927023
Let me guess, you're one of those retards shilling the idea that Libertarianism and National Socialism are somehow compatible.
>>129927234
>>129927779
He loves white people so much he wants to horde every penny so he doesn't have to help his own race. That's the (((Liberty))) movement for you.

I don't fucking know man...how about asking that to Venezuela? They have a black market for toilet tissue. Guess it wasn't "real" socialism?

>>129927580

Maternity leave should exist. Not for today's whores though.... ah ah !

>>129925200

Because I live in a society filled with useless ghetto and barrio scum. If we implemented socialism now I would simply be picking up the tab for their worthlessness. Socialism only works in a mostly equal society, like Europe before their mass third world immigration situation. In our multicultural society, the only "fair" system is a meritorious one, where the stupid assholes, criminals and other worthless members are allowed to sink straight to the bottom. An unfortunate consequence is that good ol' boy loopholes are exploited and the greediest assholes start running monopolies. There is no good solution to our situation since half of America refuses to acknowledge our inherent inequality.

>>129925200
>why doesn't the United States put more money into the most corrupt government in the entire first world?

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>>129927061
Fair enough, Dmitri.

The point is, now that Europeans are getting more redpilled on race and ethnicity, you're starting to be able to connect the dots why Americans are skeptical on the welfare state.

(NIGGERS)

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>>129925200
sort yourself out bucko, start by cleaning your room and tossing the piss bottles out of your mothers basement

>>129928380
Finns are too financially responsible to have children.

Also, men are emotional shut-ins while women are whores who lust after european dick and a life in the mediterranean.
This is not a very good combination for an abundance of children.

>>129925200
Finland is home of that faggot that keeps on pushing the Lauren Southern threads. Fuck that place and fuck him. OP is a faggot.

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.

You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves

>>129925200
>giving the government the absolute authority to redistribute your property and income
>not cucked

>>129925200
Socialism doesn't work when you have as many colored people as we do.

>>129926903
youre in America, technically youre a capitalist. unless of course you are donating 50% of your wages (assuming you work) to those who don't want to work.

>>129929388
then why not support ethno-socialism?

>>129929050
Who said i support capitalism Gabowicz?

I said it is bad, and that you should gas yourself with Zyklon B!

Man you Ashkenazi Jews really should stop with the incest, that really makes you dumb!

>>129925200
>leaf

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>>129925200
We are for Prussian socialism.

>>129925200
Socialism is the dying whimper of a free society. To scared or dumb to take back whats been stolen from them, the nation's citizens prefer to rob their neighbours instead... I have no problem with helping the poor. After I help myself. Why should I pay thousands in taxes so a single mother can live on welfare when I'm stuck living in my mother's basemen and unable to afford my own rent? They should be asking me to be generous when I'm old and have nothing important to do with my money.

>>129925200
It works in Finland because they are white. In America any system would do worse because niggers have low IQ, no morality and no intrinsic ambition beyond fucking bitches and getting rich

>1 year paid parental leave
Nope, it's around nine months.
>Free child care
Well, it's cheap, but not free. Unless you are really poor.
>Basic income for minors
No such thing.
>Guaranteed job for everyone under 25
Absolute bullshit
>Youth parliament
They can't even vote

>>129925200

I love national socialism. I just don't want it if it means my tax money is spent on niggers, spics, and Arabs.

Because people associate socialism with gibsmedats and gibsmedats with browns and blacks

This is a board that has "nigger hate threads"

>>129930781

Yup. Europeans are subsidizing their own replacements with all the gibs their governments are giving to their "refugee" arrivals, and other third worlders are only emboldened to make the trip themselves with all the tales of ficki ficki and welfare dollars falling from the sky.

>>129925200
Were capitalist as fuck though

We just go by statistics and not feelings. (Not) doing something thanks to labels is retarded

>>129930781
Unfortunately the only things that come to mind when Americans think of socialism is Marxian Socialism that wants to abolish all private property or a Neoliberal welfare state that takes money from working class whites and distributes it to programz for beans and porch monkies.

>>129928553
KANGanese Transfeminist Dance Therapy

trust me I'm the canadian poster

>>129930393
Because all the ethnicities are exploited by the ruling elites.

>>129925200
they dont have niggers,and the population of a medium size us city

>>129931022
The nigger would be better off without gibs, same with the white man. Gibs have helped destroy the black family along with no fault divorce. Now those programs are working their magic on the family of white people.

That is not to say that sometimes a person may need temporary assistance, but it must be short and they must be forced back to self sufficiency very quickly.

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>>129931276
>They don't have niggers
Sadly, wrong.

>>129930723
Good Pekka, they try this shit with Sweden too.
>Everything is free
They just can't grasp that if a country is white it works and very few people are poor. We are losing that now in Sweden and they try to make up all kinds of reasons but the real reason is that we are not a 100% white country anymore.

>>129930723
>No basic income for minors
I think the pic means opintotukea aka money for studying. Thats really abused though

>>129925200
I'm against most socialist principles. However I do believe that a country must provide for (and protect) it's inhabitants. The problem doesn't lay with the mixed economy, but with the slow degradation of the idea of a nation over time. Consider one of JFK's speeches "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country". This perfectly encapsulates what a nation should be, a group of people working together for the betterment of the nation, and in return getting some provisions and protections from the nation. However over the years, the Jew has almost destroyed the nation concept, watered it down until it was just an abstraction. And why would people care about an abstraction? Combining that with the proliferation of Negro culture and The Nation no longer has a chance.

>tl;dr Some aspects of socialism could be implemented. Were it not for blacks, Jews, and the detritus of society leaching off the rest.

>>129926903
You must be 18 to post here

>>129925200
Wow, that sounds great! Let me be sure to take on Finland's system, so that I can have
>rapidly increasing national debt
>rapidly declining GDP despite population increases
>a effective personal tax rate of over 50%
I'm sure that the kids will want to take over the aging population and solve the debt crisis once they just learn to "grow up," since there's so much to look forward to in the world of the middle class man!

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>>129925200
>we need to increase the white birth rate
>WELFARE? THAT'S FUCKING SOCIALISM

>>129925200
Socialism is great in theory, but in practice its just too overwhelming and corrupt. Leave it to the government to socialize things and they'll just tax the living shit out of everyone so they can have billions in reserve

>>129928967

Good Nazi!
I did not read it all but I'd only say to change Conservative for Traditionalist.
If you are a conservative you need to have something to "conserve". We have nothing.

Anyway, what a great text that was, thank you sir. I agree mostly with the women should not vote part.

It's just a pitty you show up as a Nazi instead of as an American or whatever you are... that is so gay...

>>129925200
I love how socialist faggots keep picking white majority countries as their examples. Let's get rid of all the non-whites in the US and it will be amazing.

>>129931878
What happened in the 80's?

>>129929050

My leaf friend,

Both Capitalism and "Socialism" are MATERIALIST ideologies. Specially Socialism because we actually live in a Capitalist market and we simply cannot escape the market. Capitalism has become the reality and not merely an ideology.

The trick is to find something (economic wise) that transcends materialism but which does not require us to start killing each other for muh honour and stuff.

Good luck finding an ethical system that solves this problem for humanity.

And by the way, Capitalism today is rather "fake". It reeks of socialism as the too big to fail banks have shown us.
Also, Capitalism requires borders. Capitalism without borders in which "we" have to compete with Communist +1.3 Billion people China... is no Capitalism at all.

Again, Capitalism today reeks of Socialism in so many ways I think you would be impressed.

Bye.

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>>129932351

1965 immigration act

>>129929305
Yeah. That and because they lead unhealty lives working for the state gaining little or nothing in return.
That's why the suicide rate differences in Finland are so big between the city and rural folks... (specially among the healthy young ones)

>>129932156
>I love how socialist faggots keep picking white majority countries as their examples.

pretty much this. If I woke up tomorrow and America was 90-100% white I would say hi to all my neighbors and a neighborhood barbecue and have no problem paying more taxes. But alas theres niggers and spics everywhere I go and I have to make sure to lock my car when I go in the convenience store because they will take my car in 30 second if I don't, and their little niglets and beanie babies are running around the neighborhood at all hours when they should be in school.

>>129925200
I have money, go make your own you lazy fucking nigger

>>129932874
I don't work I'm in college.

>>129925200
> Niggers
>That's why and maybe Spics.

>>129926568
Epic meme. Some of the hardest left people I know are middle aged or older.

>>129933023
And how the fuck is that my problem?

>>129930381
Gj anon

>>129926807
>le spic nigger welfare queen meme

>>129933023
>I don't work I'm in college.
That isn't a good excuse. Most students work while attending college.

>>129933201
In Finland they pay college students to learn and school is free. Why shouldn't America have that?

>>129933359
My parents are upper class and pay for me.

>>129925200
Their whole country would fit in multiple different U.S. states so who fucking cares what Finland has or doesn't, it is apples and oranges.

>>129925200
not rich so guess I'm just a cuck.

>>129933443
because your womens studies faggodegree is worth less than nothing in real life

credentials that don't pay for themselves immediately aren't worth pursuing

>>129931878
Holy shit

>>129927190
>which they both deny happened and fap over
Denier is a constantly used buzzword, much like racist and homophobe. Most people do not outright deny the holocaust; they just question the accuracy of the many claims that simply don't add up.
There is no doubt that many people died in camps.

>>129931878
>WELFARE? THAT'S FUCKING SOCIALISM
It is disproportionately used by non-whites. You have a large transfer of wealth from productive whites to non-productive non-whites.

>>129926232
((Republicans))

>>129925200
Most of /pol/ is NatSoc. I'm fine with either that or old school, authoritarian right, feminism-and-jew free capitalism. Woman shouldn't be working at all.

>>129925200
1 in 3 kids in america are in poverty because we keep importing poverty via immigration. So now teens have to compete with a 35 year old mexican in his prime supporting a family who will work 14 hours in shit conditions no complaint for an entry job that would have taught the teen responsibilities and work ethics and increased the chance they grow up wealthy enough to not have more kids in poverty.

>>129925200
>Leddit spacing
Git out.
>A leaf
>Talking about 'MERICA
kys.
>BUT MUH ARGUMENTS
*sighs internally*.
Alright I'll humor you, why are you retarded OP and not just your everday faggot.

Well to start poverty in burgerland does not equate to poverty as we think of it(I.E. starving child in africa). Poor people in America are poor by AMERICAN standards. American standards of poverty mean that your more likely to own an xbox, ps4, have a tivo, etc then go hungry in case your too retarded to realize that. So again I ask under what standard are we saying poor as most of America's """Poor"""" are in the global 1% let that sink in.
>BUT MUH FINLAND
They if I had to guess have a different definition of poverty as poverty is 1) the natural state of humanity, 2) relative to everyone else in the country.
>BUT MUH STANDARD OF LIVING IN FINLAND IS HIGH.
This is true faggot but that's because the fins have a culture of success. See nig-nogs are poor why, because culture. ((((Jews)))) are rich why, because culture. If you compare the standard of living of say I don't know Finnish Americans to Finnish Finns you find that Finns in burgerland are 59% better off quality of life wise then Finnish Fins.
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Also social/cultural/religious/ethnic cohesion quite a lot as well to build trust such that public institutions can function with limited corruption.
And you stated a bunch of perks the Fins have decided for their state because you want da gibs me 'dats as if they are responsible for economic growth. You're like that caricature of the leftist who believes that giving money to feed sick puppies raises GDP.
Source for stats:
https://www.amazon.com/Debunking-Utopia-Exposing-Nordic-Socialism/dp/1944229396/ref=nosim/nationalreviewon
Now get out faggot.

I'm all for socialism of the national variety in white countries

>>129925200

The US would actually be ahead of Finland if it weren't for Jews, Niggers and Spics. All products of the lazy Amerifat.

>>129931454
yellow niggers are better than nig nogs

>>129929203
If he gets a job competing against tfws and salary competitive browns and chinese. Op is a fucking child, has no idea whats coming.