Communism and Capitalism are both shit..

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>>129918945


Yes, ideology in general is shit.

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>>129918945
Economic freedom strongly correlates with economic prosperity. You want your nation to be strong, give the people the freedom to make it strong.

>>129921306
Beacause Russia and Germany are not strong.. (in Economic way)

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>>129921798
Well Germany's got a fair amount of economic strength along with economic freedom, but Russia is pretty economically weak, but so is their economic freedom.

I am curious Anon. What form of government do you think will dominate post 2100?

This is ~50 years after AI has taken over more or less everything and automation has replaced your entire enlisted and blue collar workforce.

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>>129923572
>after AI has taken over more or less everything and automation has replaced your entire enlisted and blue collar workforce.
Oh for fuck's sakes, you guys are so damn sure that automation will replace everything and no one will have jobs when no one who has ever made that prediction has been right before.

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>>129918945

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>>129918945
>capitalism and communism are bad!!
>here, have cuckhristianity instead

>>129918945

OP is right. Prove him wrong.

>Protip: You can't

>>129921798
Idk much about Germany's economy, but I do know some about Russia's. Russia is far from capitalism. It is corporatism in its purest form. There is no economic freedom, only the illusion of economic freedom.

No matter what system in the world you wish to choose anon, the wealth and power will be concentrated in the top 1%.
You just have wars, revolutions and pleagues to shuffle the deck once in a while, that's all

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>>129924289
>communist nations: 5
>capitalist nations: everyone else
>3rd positionist nations: 0

THIS!

We need free markets, regulated in favor of community flourishing and safety, with the commons (water, wilderness, etc...) held in the stewardship of a Christian Monarchy and Aristocracy.

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>>129924614
>Christian Monarchy and Aristocracy
Thanks, but no thanks. I'm gonna pass on that.

>>129924614
Kek
And what happens when those aristocratics get greedy? You are asking for benevolent 1% rule that's all

>>129924451
>3rd positionist nations: 0
There used to be one, which also kicked yid banks out, and communists and capitalists fought as one to subdue it.

>>129924092
>implying it was supposed to happen already

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity

estimates are 2030-2040

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>>129918945
Bump

>>129919564

[sniffing intensifies]

Orthodox Christian minarchist monarchy is the best system. Nazbols are just useful idiot slavaboos who don't realize that actual nazbols want every single westerner to die in the most painful way possible.

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>>129924924
And why would we be unaffected by this technological singularity? Genetic engineering and transhumanism will keep humanity useful even when we have robots running around.

>>129924897
It also declared war on everyone around it, the aggression it received was merely a reciprocation of the aggression it dealt to others.

>>129924924
It's not going to happen.
Like fusion power
FTL travel
Flying cars
Post scarcity

It's a prediction made at the bottom of the S-curve. We are approaching the top.

>>129921306
you are aware if the people owned the means of productions. things like poverty and crime would disapear over night.

you fucking capitalists don't deserve free speech.

you guys notice a renewed push by these filthy shills once flags were re implemented? just a coincidence im sure

>>129924829
Same thing that happened when the aristocracy was a reality, they are deposed.

What happens when the bureaucracy in your "free democracy" get greedy and corrupt?

Any system can be corrupted anon. The flourishing in any system depends on the moral character of it's members. Aristocracy is merely the acknowledgement that those with the best character should have the most responsibility.

>>129925626
Oh yea? Worked so great in Venezuela, China, Soviet Union, Cambodia, so it will work here!

Your empiric claim has been tested, and found wanting.

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>>129925626
>you fucking capitalists don't deserve free speech
And so we see the difference between free men and totalitarians.

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Stop being communist.
Stop being capitalist.

>>129918945
That's why a healthy mix of both is the best solution.

>>129918945
0/10 the swastika is drawn incorrectly

Yup. they're both shit and wind up in top-down regressive regimes. Corporatism is no different. Egalitarianism works quite well, but only in sparsely populated areas where land and resources are abundant and geographically isolated from mass migrations.

>>129927742
>set population control
>close borders
>use technology and small scale community govemernt to solve scarcity problems

Ez pz
Just kill anyone that doesn't comply

>>129925856
you know damn fucking well those weren't communist countries. those are totalitian dictatorships. Everytime a country tries to become a communistic. capitalist hi jack it and destroy it

>>129924897
which nation was this

>>129929372
why dont you create your own company where everyone is owner of the company? you wont because youre a lazy piece of shit fagot
now shut the fuck up

>>129925863
says the libertarians who think okay with capitalists exploiting and murdering millions of children. you fuckers make me sick. they are KIDS IN AMERICA in places like flint that are going thirsty. this shows how capitalism doesn't care about the most vaulable people in thre system.

one day you realize freedome of speech is nothing but bullshit white supremeist ideologyical bullshit

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>>129928945
>Just kill anyone that doesn't comply
We fought a revolution to get away from this shit

>>129921306
What us sacrificed in the name of prosperity? Sure we have tons of cash, but what is it really for? Why do we need luxuries at all. After like 300k family income, happiness no longer correlates with income. Plus people these days are pissing away that prosperity on essentially nothing. Millenials dont save, so they are never stable enof to start a family, all the while mega corporations fuck over the lil guy. The economy should help small businesses start up, bit operating costs, minimum wage, and permits and liscenses are all barriers, wait maybe i agree we oughtta be more free in that regard, but we shouldnt let cheap chinese goods be marketed as premium(something they are not!) I.e. sneakers, diamonds, etc. Thats where freedom fails, in its deception of a consumer. So there should be protections in place.

>>129918945

>A cross

Christianity is basically communism by all those definitions. Jesus even told the wealthy to give away their land before they go with him. All Christians are a "part of the family" and he actively sought to destroy the Jewish culture and managed to destroy the culture of the rest of Europe.

>>129924284
>fucking lgbt flag
piss off, fag.

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>>129929652
>they are KIDS IN AMERICA in places like flint that are going thirsty
>complains about capitalism
>uses an example of publicly owned government incompetence as his proof
Fuck off fascist

>>129929702
the difference is they have a fucking choice

charity is not communism you stupid faggot

>>129929658
a revolution led by slave owners and capitalists.

fuck the founding fathers. those fuckers need to fucking burn

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>>129918945

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>>129929918
>a commie complaining about slavery
Oh, the irony

>>129929846
oh no.. they used fucking market forces to determine that it be "CHEAPER" to use shitty dirty water instead of clean water. tell me this... if the health of the people actually fukcing mattered. they why didn't the city just spend more money on the clean wter? its because IT WAS TOO EXPENSIVE.. yea THE FREE MARKET IS THE BLAME

fucking imbelcile

capitalims is the cancer that raped africa

capitalism is the cancer that raped china

CAPITALISM is the cancer that CREATED SLAVERY

now fuck off libertarian fag pussy

>>129930360
The jews are to blame, dumb commie
Getting rid of capitalism in favor of communism won't make shit better.

>>129918945
Communism works wonderfully on small local levels, anything bigger than a small town becomes massive corrupt.

Capitalism works fine on a large scale but always turns into a Plutocracy the longer it goes on.

Both are Jewish inventions.

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>>129930360
It would be cheaper to use shitty dirty water under communism too you stupid fuck. Why do you think the Chernobyl incident happened?

>>129924812
democracy is a failure.

a monarchy requires 1 person to be wise
a democracy requires many people to be wise

>>129930360
communism is the cancer that raped russia, and is currently raping china.

>capitalims is the cancer that raped africa
africa quite frankly rapes itself

>CAPITALISM is the cancer that CREATED SLAVERY

muslims and blacks completely ran the slave trade, if it wasn't arabs selling slaves it was blacks selling their own people

>capitalism is the cancer that raped china
china also has a long history of raping itself.

>>129930653
If your country is all white, the nordic socialism model is probably the ultimate ideal. Norway and Sweden at 100% white demographics are the closest things human beings have gotten to paradise on earth in the modern era.

>>129930679
you do know price isn't a real thing. Price doesn't acutally exsist. its bullshit made up by capitalist to make a profit and exploit the poor.

in a real communist society we would do WAT IS RIGHT!!

price is a social construct.

read some fucking victor perle you fucking shitehad

>>129918945
Pater Noster, qui es in caelis,
sanctificétur nomen Tuum,
adveniat Regnum Tuum,
fiat volúntas tua,
sicut in caelo et in terra.
Panem nostrum cotidiánum
da nobis hódie,
et dimitte nobis débita nostra,
sicut et nos dimittímus
debitóribus nostris;
et ne nos indúcas in tentationem,
sed libera nos a malo.

amen

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>>129930988
Which is why there has never been a successful communist society.

>>129918945
>hehe, im a centrist :D

>>129931085
enjoy being a wage slave to your boss.


the day of the revolution you LIBERTARIANS will regrete defending this evil system

>>129930679
Hi anon. What movie is this, PLEASE? It looks awesome.

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Capitalism and Communism both fucked up our countries, but argueably capitalism has been worse

Most of the former communist nations in Eastern Europe are far less cucked than Western Capitalists nations. Capitalistic countries have fucked up their countries beyond belief and now nothing short of a total revolution can fix this shit

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>>129931287
Only lazy idiots are wage slaves. You can be an Iranian muslim with no knowledge of this nation or the english language and no money and with hard work and intelligence you can be living a comfy middle class life in a few years. Anyone who is poor is that way because of their own decisions.

>>129931241
>being this retarded

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>>129929918
>capitalism in the 18th century
>flag

It checks out.

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>>129931545
Akira.

>>129931818
learn what the comerical revolution was.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_Revolution

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>>129918945
Yeah, because the cucks who lick the feet of niggers and worship a kike on a stick are clearly going to save us.

You fucking race traitor. You belong in the ovens alongside your yid owners.

>>129932133
>The Commercial Revolution was a period of European economic expansion, colonialism, and mercantilism
>MERCANTILISM

Jesus Christ have you ever taken a basic economy course?

>>129931639
Capitalism created good times, which lead to weakness.

Communism created bad times which lead to strength.

Capitalism is definitely superior.

Furthermore, Christianity is weakness incarnate.

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>>129930360
>capitalims is the cancer that raped africa

Like in Zimbabwe and Ethiopia where communist regimes caused mass starvation?

>capitalism is the cancer that raped china

Like when the capitalist Mao starved a hundred million of his countrymen to death?

>CAPITALISM is the cancer that CREATED SLAVERY

Actually capitalism ended slavery. Further, as a communist, you should be aware that Marx stated that capitalism and a slave economy were utterly different economic epochs. I mean, he specificalyl says in Capital that the slave economy evolves into a feudal economy which evolves into a mercantile economy which evolves into a fully capitalist economy.

For fuck's sake, kike. I shouldn't have to explain your own ideology to you.

>>129932565
>leads to strength

The ex-communist countries still haven't recovered. They still have to rebuild their entire culture.

>>129918945
Provide an alternative and reason it, don't be a post-modernist.

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>>129932393
In the eyes of communists, everything is capitalism. Primitivism is capitalism, feudalism is capitalism, fascism is capitalism, mercantilism is capitalism, capitalism is capitalism, socialism is state capitalism.

There has never actually been an example of real communism, because as the commie anon pointed out in >>129930988, to be a communist is to ignore the concept of scarcity.

>>129932565
>Furthermore, Christianity is weakness incarnate.
One weakness that has been stronger than anyone.

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>>129932704
>>129930790
It's quite funny, look at any place typically associated with 3rd world shitholes, Africa, South America, Asia, and the few nations that embrace free market economies always do disproportionately well. Whether it's Chile, Hong Kong, or Botswana, the only people who are "victims" of capitalism, are ironically the least capitalist.

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nationalism and communism are not mutually exclusive

>>129933281
get that fucking demon out of my face. This guy is literally worse than Hitler and starve his own people to death

>>129932787
It must be nice, just copying Jordan Petersons words and not thinking for yourself!

>>129918945
Deus Vult guy, tell me
Do you want monarchy?
Do you want serfdom?
Do you want noble titles, knighthood and other shit like that?
Or just larping to hide your disgusting nation´s flag?

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>>129933805
>Do you want monarchy?
>Do you want serfdom?
>Do you want noble titles, knighthood and other shit like that?
Fuck that, I want Manifest Destiny, grit, and rampant individualism. I want to kill tyrants while listening to the gospel music of Johnny Cash. I want to spread our ideology throughout the world, with liberty in one hand and the gospel in the other.

>>129933805
all I want is live peacefully and we farm good quilty memes in peace

>>129930360
Slavery has been around since LONG before capitalism. ONLY Capitalist nations have abolished it.

>>129934175
Well, okay, but was mainly asking the OP, but maybe he left, because he is a fag, though
>>129934288
Damn, man, but you also have a flag of an ideology, which supports constant wars of extinction for its ideological enemies

>>129933721
He was a visionary political theorist, but sadly an idiot administrator.

>>129918945
i agree, but we're going to need to make a stronger case for why that cross on the bottom is better than, say, a star and crescent moon

>>129933805
I want monarchy. We no longer need serfdom because we have mechanization.

>>129934598
You know me well brother.

>>129934868
But serfs don´t break down like machines.
Serfs are created more easily and upkept for less money than machines.
>>129934957
I know your ideology well, because I´ve looked into it
Also. Don´t call me brother, because I am classical liberal

>>129921306
>japan and yemen have the same color
this alone disproves your thesis

>>129935338
The freedom in Japan is tight. I think what he meant could be giving people a false sense of freedom so they can make the "cage" storng

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>>129935338
>what are trends
>what are outliers

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>>129935338
The map measures economic freedom only. Social and political freedom is not taken into account.

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>>129931639
The problem with capitalism is that it sees material wealth as the ultimate goal. Communism forces people to give up their spirituality and culture at gunpoint, but that doesn't mean they internalize communist filth. Capitalism subverts spirituality and culture with consumerism while creating a decadent and lazy population that only cares about comfort and money.

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>>129936635
fucked up the pic