UPS employee shoot coworkers in San Francisco.
I can't handle all these happenings!
If I had to load another UPS truck in my lifetime I would too
>>129904024
Wow more gun violence, it's almost like there is a gun problem.
>>129904024
There are no white people employed at UPS in San Francisco. Certainly no Americans
>>129904312
There are no problems only solutions
>>129904312
But it was in California. A liberal utopia. They have gun laws. How could this happen?
>>129904312
It's almost like you mentally retarded , we banned our guns years ago and we have more murders for the population than you do.
>>129904024
Digits confirm he will kill more people
>>129904024
>NEW FOOTAGE OF THE MASSACRE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhZi5KigdQo
meme
>>129904530
Clearly it is not enough to stop white men from shooting people. Guns should be outlawed.
>>129904312
Take my gun away yer filthe commie
Innocent guns are being blamed for these crimes. If we eliminate all people then guns will stop being blamed for these crimes.
>>129904530
how draconian are their laws? what's allowed vs prohibited, in terms of 2nd amendment? I'm assuming it varies a lot by city/county - legit curious
>>129904312
clearly it's fluoride in the water
>>129904564
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
Wrong.
>>129904758
>Guns should be outlawed
Excepted for yourself and your commies?
>>129904743
I love you Australia never change <3
(((>>129904312)))
>>129904024
kek, he went postal
>>129904312
I bet youd like the guns taken away, commie. That way theres no way to resist when you want to put us all in the Gulags
Fuck you
>>129904024
What can yo white ass do fuh the brown man?
>>129904917
>wikepedia
>>129904024
>injured 4
Shitskin, why can't they do anything right?
>>129904758
law
>murder
>muderer following law
>law applying to a murderer...
Your mind is weak as Shit.
(((>>129904312)))
>>129905010
Greatest Ally.
>>129905222
You do know Wikipedia has a section named "Sources" at the bottom, right? Surely you can prove your previous claim.
>>129905179
When a child keeps throwing tantrums, you take away its toys.
>>129904564
you just need to ban mohamad, genius
>>129905472
Oh, and it always seems to be one of your children?Imagine that.
>>129904312
wrong
murder is illegal
>>129904312
>San Francisco
they don't have guns there
Ok /pol/, what will the UPS tracking say for the people whose packages get delayed?
>>129905472
>equating millions of people to children
>superiority complex
Proving my point, marxist scum. Let me guess, all the socialism/communism thats been done wasnt "real"?
>>129905644
Both attacks were committed by white males, targetting people indiscriminately.
>>129904312
no people no problem you are not a comrade kys (((commie)))
>>129905790
Your actual system works fine, Mr. 56% ?
>>129904024
God damnit, this better not delay my packages.
>>129904024
The promise of KEK is real.
Praise him or pay the price of boring happenings
>>129905816
>white males
More a like a liberal
>>129904155
Iktf. I worked at UPS for 2 years and I wanted to kill everybody as well. Everyday I spent 4 hours with some Mexican or stoner Xbox kid yapping in my ear while I'm just trying to sort some fucking packages. And the wannabe corporate supervisors made me want to strangle something. Near the end of my time there I would just tell them to fuck off because they can't do anything to you.
>>129905948
I dont get the reference, but yeah. The Bolsheviks had to resort to capitalistic methods (buying/selling crops) shortly after they took over because everybody was starving. Lenin called it "a minor setback". Not to mention your system always - always puts 100% of the power in the hands of the elite. What is a poor man who "takes over" and hordes all of the state capital and product? Is he still the "working class"?
Marxism, socialism, and communism are a self-destructive, incoherent ideologies that have consistently resulted in the imprisonment and killing of millions. Prove me wrong.
>>129906567
I'm guessing it was like this...
>>129904155
don't you make like 26/hr though?
>>129906763
As if the power is in the hands of the people in the US and not a wealthy elite.
>>129906804
drivers make around 35/hour but truck loaders only get payed about 11/hour
>>129905948
Im serious when I say Marxism is the greatest threat to humanity. Socialism and Communism are products or Marxism.
When you categorize individuals into two opposing collectives, you cut out any grey. You have either friend or foe. Lenin and Stalin literally preached about this. Marxism, in any context, is a threat to our survival.
>>129904024
UPDATE: 2 dead. Shooter is down.
>>129906965
Its not perfect, but look around you man. Everything you have to be here: your computer, phone, clothes, etc are a product of international trade. Bartering. Capitalism.
The world isnt perfect, but dont butcher it with communism.
>HELLO JERRY
>>129906804
I made 10 when I was doing it. Fuck that.
>>129906965
>>129907196
And thats not an appeal to emotion argument. Its quantifiable. Your individual wealth is greater now than it could ever be under a marxist-esque regime.
>>129907196
>trade can't exist without capitalism
Absolutely retarded.
>>129904024
>be me
>work in San Fagcisco
>regularly drop off packages at places just like this
>Good thing I only have to drop off packages at FedEx lol
>>129904024
>Your actual system works fine, Mr. 56% ?
Our system didn't kill 120 million innocent people in the last century, you subhuman piece of shit.
>>129905472
you can't "take away" guns you stupid nigger
if you outlaw them the criminal demand for guns will make their price skyrocket and blackmarket suppliers WILL BE THERE to make an absolute killing running guns
Even if this were not so guns ARE EASY TO MAKE
you can make a functioning firearm with less than $20 in supplies and no power tools, all you need is a file and some epoxy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EgO5XGcjtk
>>129907657
>if you outlaw them the criminal demand for guns will make their price skyrocket
Ergo less people will be able to afford them.
Do you even use your brain when you post?
fed ex is nice.
doing van loading in the morning for health benefits and college reimbursement.
some days will make u wanna kill people, then I remember it's part time so who cares I can leave when I want.
I hear it's worse at UPS tho.
>>129904024
maybe it was an accident and he went "UPS!"
>>129907782
>you can make your own gun for less than $20
can you read?
MUH GUNNSSSS
>>129904024
>injuries only
>news
>>129907782
>Criminals wont be able to afford x
>Criminals wont be able to
>Criminals wont
>CRIMINALS
Jesus chroist you Aussies really do need to get banned. Fuck
>>129907853
I used to have a couples porn delivered to my home by mistake. How often do you come across adult items.
>>129907657
lol
>hello Mr. Criminal, that AR will be $1500
>aww dangit Mr. Blackmarket dealer I cant afford that! shucks
>Have a nice day Mr. Criminal
>*criminal leaves*
fucking kek
>>129908077
at ups there will be a large box of porn dvds or dildos bust open at least once a month
>>129907395
Trade is enforced by communism :^)
>>129905222
he's right you know
Info we know at this time
1. That what they get for working for the United Pistol Service
2. Their time of death was between 8 am and 6 pm
>>129905035
underrated
>>129908228
only the shittiest of criminals wouldn't be able to afford 1500 in cash for a serious weapon
any half decent dealer can make that much in a week
>>129904024
Someone went postal.
>>129904024
MY EYES ARE GETTING WEARY
>>129908027
I second this.
>>129907913
A slamfire shotgun is not a substitute for a semi-automatic pistol in the commission of crime. Proof? The fact that nobody uses slamfire shotguns to commit crimes because that's a hilariously stupid idea.
I'm not even a gun control proponent. Your arguments are just fucking dumb, and every time you use them you make everyone on your side look dumb by proxy.
>>129908027
How, exactly, are "blackmarket suppliers" going to "make an absolute killing running guns" without selling any guns?
Be detailed in your response.
>>129908228
What's your point?
>>129908443
Yeah, i meant that post for the Aussie faggot who keeps shitting up this thread
>>129904024
He probably got bullied, it's understandable he reacted to the violent word oppression he had to go through.
>spider sense tingling
>senses he's black
*waits for confirmation
>>129904155
>>129906567
Parcel delivery jobs are hellish. And the quality of the service ends up like shit too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Z_6qjYPU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64zGSD5YbFU
>>129904312
muricans are violent creatures. they will find another way to kill each other.
POSTAL KILLER FUCK YEAH!!
We 1990s again nao!
>>129904312
Marx wanted the people to have guns
You fucking faggots are literally too dumb to be commies
>>129904024
Going postal
>>129904312
Take away guns and you still have a stabbing problem. It's not really a gun problem, or a tabbing problem, it's a bernie problem.
>San Fran
this cuntry has a real Bernout problem
>>129907908
>>129904024
RANDY'S BACK FROM THE DEAD
THE GHOST INVASION HAS BEGUN
Not enough guns and training.
>>129904530
Could be all the fucking guns smuggled through the southern border?
>>129908808
>UPS employee shoot coworkers in San Francisco
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
>>129908616
You can buy guns illegally on the blackmarket
You can build guns yourself.
Do you see pic realted? It is a homemade UZI.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4590972/Police-arrest-gangster-waving-sub-machine-gun-Norfolk.html
A fucking illegal SMG in Niggerhands in gun crontrol paradise UK. Are you retarded?
>>129906567
Fuck you man. I thought that way til I became a supervisor myself. Trust me, you'd want to strangle yourself for talking shit once you were one for a few months.
>>129908616
>lol the criminal will just walk away
>STEAL: take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.
How old are you?
>>129908616
>Be detailed in your response.
you do understand that supply and demand curves always meet to determine a price point yes?
>nobody uses slamfire guns to commit crimes
>AUSTRALIA - 10% of guns seized are HOMEMADE
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/06/16/australian-police-10-firearms-seized-homemade/
>>129908965
HE'S GONE GHOSTAL!
>>129908616
My point is that either you live in a goddamn preschool daycare or you have never been aware of any illegal activity in your life
>>129908808
Didn't you turkroaches just have a coup less than a year ago? Sandniggers BTFO!
>>129908965
>>129909280
EGS INVASION CONFIRMED?!?!?!?
IT'S NOT EVEN SEPTEMBER LADS
>>129909117
>You can build guns yourself.
Homemade guns are simply not a significant problem. You people keep screeching "HOMEMADE GUNS" without any concept of how rare they actually are. I don't know how much clearer I can be: homemade guns appear in a tiny fraction of the fraction of violent crimes that involve guns.
Nobody cares about homemade guns, for good reason. They aren't worth caring about. They are far from anyone's biggest problem. That's why running a line of attack based on homemade guns makes you look like an idiot and, therefore, makes me look like an idiot when I talk about guns and people who have just come from an argument with idiots like you start screeching about how homemade guns aren't a problem and I'm an idiot for thinking they are and I have to carefully extricate myself from the hole you dug for me.
>>129909212
>guns appear as if by magic in the pockets of criminals
Every gun used in a crime was bought by someone. If guns become more expensive, fewer guns will be bought.
I don't understand why this is a difficult concept.
>>129909223
>you do understand that supply and demand curves always meet to determine a price point yes?
Yes, and you should know that if the supply curve shifts to the left the equilibrium price point rises. Basic economics. The fact that you don't know this suggests to me you are an utter fucking moron. See pic related.
>muh illegal guns
Oh yes, let's have a look at that article:
"With illegal handguns costing $15,000 and more on the black market, desperate criminals have even resorted to converting ear-piercing instruments and spear guns into makeshift pistols."
>$15,000 for a pistol
Looks like gun control has worked to raise prices, just like you said it would.
Well played, idiot.
>>129904312
>People here are actually taking this bait seriously and responding to it.
>>129909417
Not an argument.
>>129909223
>asks for detailed responses and sources
>gets roasted
nice.exe
They're taking their time telling us, which means it's likely a nigger, spic, or allahuakbar. This morning with the baseball shooting, the left immediately informed everyone it was a white male—a decision they regretted when it turned out he was a dyed in the wool trump-hating libtard who was shooting conservatives. But now they are hesitating.
My money is on it being a beaner or a shitskin.
>>129904564
doubt
>>129910105
>thinks that a fucking blog qualifies as a source
>let alone one that wears its bias on its sleevel, called "thefirearmblog"
top kek
If you follow the link chain back to the actual article that thefirearmblog is cherrypicking its quotations from you find that quite a lot has been taken out of context.
>>129910042
>They are far from anyone's biggest problem.
Wanna know the bigges problem? Knifes, you coon.
>>129910028
COULD BE, ALL I CAN SAY IS HAIL FROGGY!
>>129910264
I have a strong suspicion that you're generally the count in pic related
>inb4 some stupid argument from you
I'm just calling you a kike, shlomo. I'm a counter-semite and refute your kind
>>129910042
You cucks banned guns and jerk off to muh lesser gun deaths?
KNIFES YOU COON
>>129910264
>>129910042
>>129908808
>>129905816
>>129904758
Wtf I hate guns now. Thank god I have 365 knives to play with, along with my homemade D cell, petrol propelled, battery launcher.
>>129910042
>ban alcohol
>organized crime develops to supply alcohol
>crime goes up
>ban drugs
>organized crime develops to supply drugs
>crime goes up
>ban prostitution
>organized crime develops to supply sex
>crime goes up
>gun smuggling is already a huge problem all over the world
>for some reason it will be different in the US
>the US doesn't have Mexico on its southern border
>>129904434
>There are no white people employed at UPS in San Francisco.
>Certainly no Americans
no need to repeat yourself
>please be Muslim
>please be Muslim
>please be Muslim
>>129904155
Same here. Worked at the hub for 3 years before giving it up. I was a pick-off at that point and made $12/hr, but it wasn't worth the hell they put your body through.
>>129910042
Hi! 3d CAD expert here with a drill press, CNC machine, a 3d printer, and a basic understanding of chemistry.
I _could_ (but won't) design and create weapons and ammo that would put the current weapons of war the military has to shame and would seem to be weapons straight out of hell.
Just shut the fuck up, you are fucking dumb as a bag of retarded clams.
>>129910264
>Population of 320,000,000
>An estimated 300,000,000 guns in the US (Pew)
>Suicides account for 61% of gun deaths (Pew)
>Only 8,450 homicides by guns in 2013 (FBI)
>Chances of getting shot and dying from a gun is 8.45k/320m = 0.0027%
There is literally a zero percent chance of being killed by a gun in the US. The availability of firearms is largely an exaggerated danger that is perpetuated by fear and ignorance. In rare circumstances people have lost their lives from them but the benefits of armed populace outweigh the negatives
* http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-20/table_20_murder_by_state_types_of_weapons_2013.xls
* http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/05/24/suicides-account-for-most-gun-deaths/
* http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/06/04/a-minority-of-americans-own-guns-but-just-how-many-is-unclear/
>>129904564
ban abos
>>129909202
Well, then maybe UPS should fix their retarded model and give you some actual authority.
>>129904024
Civil War has officially started
I recommend to all you Amerifats out there to start killing the nearest liberal commie pinko you see
>>129910869
>>the US doesn't have Mexico on its southern border
But Mexico gets their guns from US.
>>129904312
>injured
>not killed
i think the gun has a californian problem desu
>>129911164
>>129909202
But we all know they won't, because the package sorting, truck loading drone monkeys who actually make the company money are infinitely more important than you are.
>>129910859
Didn't get a can cannon, then? Taking someones head off with a soda can launched from an AR - that must be the most American thing ever...
>>129910897
Kek
>>129910665
Nice graph anon, but you've done nothing to address the assertion that I will make, that the reason knives appear to be the biggest problem and not guns is in fact because of gun control.
Like I said, I'm not even a proponent of gun control. I'm just sick of idiots making terrible arguments that make me look dumb by proxy. If you can't even beat someone who agrees with you, how are you possibly going to convince someone who doesn't?
>>129910786
Not an argument.
>>129910835
Looks like gun control is working to reduce the number of crimes involving firearms.
>>129910869
>make something illegal
>crime goes up
Guess we should get rid of all laws, and that way we'll have no crime - and live in a utopia.
Organised criminals generally always have the power to circumvent prohibitions. They're not really who is targeted, because they're the guys who can intimidate jewelers and fitters into making tube submachineguns. The guy who is targeted is the lowlevel thug without means or connections who suddenly needs to pony up $15,000 for a pistol instead of $500 and who, consequently, goes without.
>>129911114
Theoretical potentialities do not translate into actual use of homemade guns in crimes. Nobody cares about what you could do, only what criminals are doing - in sufficient amounts to matter.
Your argument is weak.
>>129911129
This is the correct argument to make. Combine this with "guns don't cause crime" and you have made the winning case for a pro-gun stance.
>>129904024
WAIT!
IS IT NOT A MUSLIM? THE FUCK?
>>129904024
Just a normal Wednesday. Calm down please.
>not a Muslim
>>129911542
>Gun control
Is bullocks, pic related
>>129904024
>UPS employee
Urban or Turban?
>>129911804
>>129911542
>Looks like gun control is working to reduce the number of crimes involving firearms.
Homicides by gun decrease.
Homicides by knifes increase.
Almost accurately replacing gun homicides.
Where is the difference if shot dead or stabbed dead? There is none.
You can't be that dense...
>>129911480
Nah My homemade is a glorified potato launcher. Works with compressed canisters or petrol. I guess I could outfit it with cans. D Cells though, they blow holes through 3/4 - 1'' wood panel fencing.
This would have never happened if we made murder illegal.
>>129904530
WE HAVE TO GO FURTHER
IF WE BAN HUMANS, NOBODY WILL GET SHOT
>>129904743
Loooooolll
>>129904024
http://www.strawpoll.me/13189868
http://www.strawpoll.me/13189868
http://www.strawpoll.me/13189868
http://www.strawpoll.me/13189868
http://www.strawpoll.me/13189868
>>129911542
Listen, the only reason why there isn't a large amount of homebrew weapons is because manufactured weapons are available.
You take away the manufactured weapons and access to them, you see the rise of homebrew and creative usage of every day items as weapons..
Just stop, you are embarrassing the human race. If I was a leftists idiot like you, I would just go back to bed today. You aren't doing your side any favors by doing this, you are only empowering your opposition.
Either way, you lose and are losing and will continue to lose. Only way you are getting our weapons or minimizing the capabilities of them is to start this war within. And trust me, we are ready for it, waiting for it, and looking forward to you idiots trying to do it.
Go back to bed lefty, it's not your day.
Ask a California UPS contracted guard anything
>>129911804
I agree.
The strongest argument that can be made for a pro-gun case is that there is no linkage between guns and crime rates and that therefore banning guns achieves nothing. However, this requires foregoing the argument that more guns /reduces/ crime rates, which is a tantalising fiction that many pro-gun people fall for.
Guns and crime rates are not connected. And think about it - this makes sense. Guns don't whisper in your ear telling you to commit crimes. First comes motivation, then comes means. All the means in the world don't matter to someone without motivation, and motivation without means just results in real ghetto shit.
In essence you argue that gun control is a restriction on liberty that serves no useful purpose.
You don't argue that it doesn't make guns harder to get, because it demonstrably does. You don't argue about muh 3D printed .22LR pistols, because nobody cares.
Stick to the basics and don't get distracted by irrelevant tangents and you'll do all right.
>>129911076
>>129907340
>>129906999
How were the benefits though?
I worked as a loader at FedEx Ground for the day to day deliveries.
It was bearable most of the time and it had the highest starting pay over UPS and Ontrac.
I never enquired about the benefits until I got promoted.
>>129907140
Time for the race and religion olympics, who was it
>>129912184
Ever had the urge to go postal?
>>129904024
some some people in SF aren't getting packages today it looks like
>>129912437
No, my job is cushy as fuck
>>129904024
>San Francisco
It was a mercy killing
>>129911971
It's not my job to phrase your argument for you, you fucking retard.
If you want to convince people you can start by actually making an argument instead of just dumping graphs from your autistically arranged folders.
>>129912157
>Listen, the only reason why there isn't a large amount of homebrew weapons is because manufactured weapons are available.
Even in countries with strict gun control the incidence of homemade guns is still far lower than the incidence of factory-made guns.
The reason there isn't a large amount of homemade guns is because they are demonstrably inferior, much more of a hassle to obtain, and nowhere near as useful for committing crimes.
>>129912125 don't click screamer.
>>129904024
UPS delivers my shit from a town over and it looks like it has been through 2 warzones.
>>129908808
Break down the country into states, and check the demographics, and you'll start seeing a correlation.
>>129911016
Die.
>>129911460
That's rather true even at FedEx.
The better you are at loading, sorting, unloading the more they let you get away with in regards to shitty behavior, poor attendance, etc.
They're probably glad not to have people quit within the first week.
>>129913284
>The word "Fragile" means literally nothing for any shipping company in the US.
>>129912125
Wow even pol knows it's a white cuck
guess someone went postal
>>129910042
>>You can build guns yourself.
>Homemade guns are simply not a significant problem. You people keep screeching "HOMEMADE GUNS" without any concept of how rare they actually are. I don't know how much clearer I can be: homemade guns appear in a tiny fraction of the fraction of violent crimes that involve guns.
>Nobody cares about homemade guns, for good reason. They aren't worth caring about. They are far from anyone's biggest problem. That's why running a line of attack based on homemade guns makes you look like an idiot and, therefore, makes me look like an idiot when I talk about guns and people who have just come from an argument with idiots like you start screeching about how homemade guns aren't a problem and I'm an idiot for thinking they are and I have to carefully extricate myself from the hole you dug for me.
We should totally ban mining lasers. Their immense heat is absolutely dangerous. Not only is it an effective weapon, it can burn buildings, cut material, and blast an area with high powered explosive ability. Mining lasers are purely destructive in nature, and thus should be banned.
>>129904743
>>129913803
fag meme
>>129913284
>>129913635
The conveyor system is usually the culprit and it certainly doesn't give a shit if your package says 'fragile."
That is to say it's usually the customers fault for packaging their items like shit.
And this is coming from a guy who hates the damn place and doesn't actually do most of the physical work.
>>129904899
No hicap mags neutered "assault weapons" lots of red tape to actually buy a gun laws that constantly and arbitrarily change.
UPS is where people work when their 10 year old felony falls off their background check.
>>129904743
KEK
wtf is with postal workers and "going postal"?
>>129913635
>fragile
those were not packed properly
>>129904312
Wow, another stupid communist, it's almost like communists are retarded.
>SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) --
SFPD says that four people have been killed, including the gunman, after a shooting at a UPS facility in the area of 17th Street and San Bruno in San Francisco. Two people were also injured.
>>129914193
Californian here. That was an excellent summary. Im kinda shocked desu.
>>129913803
>postal
Except UPS ships PARCELS. It's part of the name.
>>129914075
Yea I've heard they run conveyors at pretty high speeds for the demand.
>>129914367
>those were not packed properly
No shit sherlock it was rhetorical.
>>129914735
quit ruining the joke
>>129914988
>14988
Quit ruining white supremacism.
>>129914776
They do that even when at receiving end of the conveyors there's only people.
It's funny seeing the place fall apart like that I Love Lucy episode.
When I was loading I would stop the belt and eventually pull the emergency cord and shut down the area.
I still got promoted later on. FedEx by the way.
>>129904024
#PrayForHappenings
the much touted summer of rage is upon us
>>129915203
huh??? what the fuck are you on about?
>>129914333
While automation is increasing, there is lot of repetitive stuff in their daily lives. Sorting mail day after day and night after night for years can drive anyone crazy enough to go postal.
>>129904024
but arent gun laws strict around cali? Huh makes one ponder.
>Going Postal
>>129905035
kekd loud & gracefully
>>129904024
The Establishment is panicking, they're activating Manchurians. These will continue.
>>129915439
If we had a 1 square inch QR code on every letter that encoded shipping destination, which the sender prints out and affixes to the envelope, we could automate a lot of it with a simple 3 dof robot arm on every wall.
>>129916031
Do you think we will see another JFK event?
>>129915355
Fast =/= Efficient
Wonder how new line workers manage when it comes down to chaos like that.
>>129914333
Postal Service is a CIA front for MK ultra bro
stay woke