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Should victimless crimes, drugs, and voluntary prostitution be globally decriminalized?
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>>129873672

>victimless crimes

w-what?
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>>129876302
A crime that doesn't affect anybody.
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>>129873672
If you cause yourself to be a degenerate waste of space, society is the victim.
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>>129873672
Social cohesion being damaged is a severe problem and if culture does not stop it, the state has to.
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>>129873672
No, We need to keep the poor poor and the rich rich.
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>>129873672
Yes. As long as it doesn't break NAP it's fine.
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>>129876587

that doesn't exist.
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>>129876587
Like farting in a jar? or stealing a fat persons chocolate when they not looking?
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>>129876587
That doesn't exist.

It will either affect you, and my interactions with you, or you simply are incapable of abstracting yourself as part of the societal whole.

Victimless crimes as a idea inherently eliminate responsibility to yourself, it's another form of modern laziness.
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>>129877016
drugs for example dumbass
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>>129873672
Drugs are not victimless, The taxpayer is the victim because the state will be required to support the druggie. Take away state support (including medical) and then let them OD, thats fine.
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>>129873672
>globally

Avengers or Justice League? FFS Gergo, get a grip.
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>>129873672
>Should victimless crimes, drugs, and voluntary prostitution be globally decriminalized?

No for white European nations.
Yes for every other countries.
Let Opium War 2 start so we can rise again.
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>>129877474
if it was only in a single country, it would destroy the purpose of the whole thing. cartels from other countries would go to that country to get cheap drugs and ship them abroad, it would be idiotic to do that
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>>129877451
Taxes raised from legal drugs already cover healthcare costs several times over. Legalisation is the safest way to manage drug use and abuse.
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>>129877451
I work in wallstreet and will pay more tax dollars then you or your family.

Why can't I do coke legally.
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>>129877762
Cartels? Wow sounds like the drug business appeals to violent criminals. But I'm sure these people will go 100% legit if it were globally legalized.
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>>129877162

selling, smuggling, taking drugs doesn't affect anyone?

are you stupid?

drugs have a hue potencial to produce negative effects on ones health e general aspects of life.

If you buy drugs and you consume them for selfish hedonistic reasons, your family becomes a victim, poor people in producing countries become victims of cartels, every other citizen with whom you share a country with becomes a victim of your selfish self destructing habits.

Others suffer from you being a pothead, heroine junkie or a cocaine maniac, you know.
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>>129877162
Drugs affect society greatly
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>>129878052
>drugs are traded by criminals because they are illegal
>therefore, drugs should be illegal
Maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't base policy on circular reasoning
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>>129877937
It's the way to stop the cartels. If big pharma controlled the drug trade, the cartels would be crushed instantly.
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>>129877912

You should be able to do coke legally if it comes from a legal source. Whether or not it should have been made illegal in the past is irrelevant now. It is illegal and has been illegal for decades, and has spawned an industry of horrific violence and corruption behind it.

Your usage is not criminal at all but your acquisition, purchasing, and possession certainly is.
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>>129877912
Because the amount of money you give to the state cannot grant tiered privileges in any egalitarian society worth a damn. If you want to do coke you can do it. It's not hard. But you should be prepared to face the responsibility of your actions as society and God determined.
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>>129878211

Drugs should be illegal, not because they are traded by criminals, but because they are destructive, because they are health hazards, because they can kill.
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>>129878106
>>129878052
if they're legalized the scum of the country can legally and slowly kill themselves, and others can leave peacefully
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>>129873672
Yes
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>>129878211

and they serve no other purpose than selfish hedonism and nihilism.
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>>129878481
going by that logic knifes should be banned too
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>>129877162
>Drugs don't affect society
Are you literally 16?
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>>129878481
So can guns, let's make them illegal as well
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>>129873672
>victimless crimes
never seen heroin addicts break into houses and steal shit to pawn when they run out of money have you?
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>>129873672
yes
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>>129878674
They have positive societal functions like self defence, and they've a practical need in cooking and other activities.

Drugs are just for degenerate escapism, big money, and society wrecking.
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>>129878585
What a pathetic thought. You write off human life so flippantly. Why not try to legislate towards elevating humanity so no one would turn to drugs rather than just legalizing something horrible and submitting social darwinism?
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>>129878752
Drugs affect society, prisons are filled with casual drug users and pos suppliers not the manufacturers or top end distributors.
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>>129877912
>in wallstreet
not on wall street

continue larping
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>>129878585

no, the others would lose their sons, their wifes, there daughters, their brothers...

Unless you're basement dweller with without any social connections, legalizing drugs would cause widespread misery, so many would be the people with severe health issues or even death, caused by the increased consume of drugs.
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>>129878052
>>129878052
HOW
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>>129878778
The crime was breaking into the house not being addicted to heroin.
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>>129873672
id probably rob the fucking store if they had painkillers readily available for me
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>>129878983
meanwhile in Portugal

http://archive.is/HTk9P
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>>129878765

no, guns have other purposes other than selfish self destructing hedonism, drugs don't.

cars also kill, they should not be illegal, should they.
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>>129877451
fuck off nigger I made 250k this year and am on probation for a marijuana possession issue
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>>129878983
>legalisation will cause more drug use

prove it
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>>129879232
Where do you draw the line at "drugs"?
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>>129878585
Why would you enable self destructive behavior? Drugs will do nothing of good to society and there's literally no reason to enable them except for the self pleasure and individuality of some individuals.
>>129878765
>>129878674
Stupid argument. While drugs will bring nothing of good to you or to society as a whole, knifes and guns have a objective uses besides self pleasure. Guns can be used to defend oneself, to protect your country. Knifes can be used to make food and manual labor. Cocaine won't be used to anything except self pleasure and will fuck you over one way or another.

Get fucked.
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>>129879232
There is only one use for a gun, killing. That is their only function. Drugs on the other hand can have medical uses.
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>>129879220


good goy, focus solely on poor heroine junkies from 1 small neighborhood, forget about all the effects it on had on cannabis and cocaine use, for example, forget about the increase in cannabis induced psychosis in teens, forget a about all the heroine junkies that are now on methadone for life at the expanse of the taxpayer...
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>>129879449

all of them, except alcohol, due to its ancestral cultural influence.
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In any country with any public healthcare spending, recreational drug use is not a victimless crime
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>>129879657
Yes, killing a criminal, someone invading your house, someone attacking you in the street, terrorists. Things that can happen at anytime.

Morphine also have medical use, do you think it should be legal? In the rare case where you need such drugs for medical use, your doctor may give you a license to buy them, as to the everyday scenario, you won't need drugs for anything.
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>>129878983
people lose their families because of alcohol, yet its legal

>>129878881
>>129878912

alcohol is legal, yet not everyone becomes a drunk, the intelligent would still be normal people contributing to society, only those whole already lead a sad and miserable lifestyle would take drugs, so its a win for society
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>>129879657
>Drugs on the other hand can have medical uses.

Hello brown country.
Please do tell your leaders that.
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>>129879432
I work at a hospital in northern California. Since the weed legalization I've had to treat more people than ever coming in for all manner of crimes. It was there before but there has been a surge.

And before you claim it's just weed, around a quarter of patients I see have come back now suffering from opioid overdoses. I have one lifer in sub acute who literally only has enough brain function left to feel when he is choking, because he got high and went for a drive.

These people are breaking and dying. Is that enough or do you need hard numbers?
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>>129879737
Sources?
>>129879864
Alcohol should be banned too, muh ancestors is a shitty argument. Alcohol meets all of your criteria as to why a substance should be banned.
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>>129879432

are you telling me that legal dissuasion is useless!That it doesn't compel people to not participate in certain behaviors because they might be afraid of being punished by law?

wew lad...

there are loads of people that don't do drugs, simply because they are afraid to suffer legal consequence if they get caught, you need prove for that! Jesus fucking Christ...
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>>129880066
>people lose their families because of alcohol, yet its legal
And who said I agree with that? Only reason alcohol is allowed is because it's entrenched in humanity's culture. It's not viable to make alcohol illegal at the moment, so the best we can do is put restrictions on it.

Just because there's a bad apple in the basket doesn't mean you have to fill the whole basket with them.
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>>129880194

>Alcohol should be banned too, muh ancestors is a shitty argument. Alcohol meets all of your criteria as to why a substance should be banned.

you're right, it does, but i believe it is too rooted in our society to now become ilegal.
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>>129879970
Drugs should be legal, it costs less to the taxpayer if they're legal, drug use declines in general, it is no different to alcohol, pure and simple.

Also I know why guns should be legal, I was arguing that drugs can kill isn't a valid reason.
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>>129878306
No use in arguing with statist shills. Wonder how many money does he get from big gov for spreading disinfo online
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>>129880451
>entrenched in humanities culture
The entire Muslim world doesn't drink anon your argument is invalid.
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>>129880376
Drug laws do not stop drug use. It's incredibly obvious that this is the case. If the use of drugs were regulated rather than outright banned far fewer people would die.
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Legalization=Society and government saying that's essentially okay to have said behavior. For example, If X country enables abortion, it's basically saying to its people that's okay to abort and you shouldn't feel bad about it.

Society needs to put itself in a position where it's above the degeneracy and weakness of the individual, it should prevent it, not be a enabler to them.
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>>129880885
They do use drugs though. And many do drink
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>>129880969
Couldn't agree more.
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Wow, the amount of .gov shilling in this thread is unbelievable. Sad times have come upon /pol/
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>>129873672
of course.
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>>129880969
No it isn't. There are lots of things that are legal but are not described as being okay by society. Being fat is legal, but it is obviously not okay. Banning things based on some vague notion of degeneracy is stupid.
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>>129873672

Yes.
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>>129881047
Opium and marijuana are all condemned by current Muslim countries.
But these were their traditional go to drugs.
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>>129880066
I'm fine with pot being pseudo-legal, but the OP is about pills.

The cultural significance of alcohol is also relevant.
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>>129880969
smoking tobacco is a bad behavior, but it's legal since ages, and everyone you meet advices you not to do it
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>>129873672
>victimless crimes
such thing does not exist
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>>129881763
kek i'm OP
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>>129879532
>needs organized religion or government to think for him

oh, you have deus vult flag. Nvm then
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>>129879532
there are tons of medical reasons to use drugs
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>>129873672
Natural selection will solve the degeneracy problem. Fags, numales, drug addicts, feminists, etc will remove themselves from the gene pool.
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>>129877102
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about dunce
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>>129881708
And people still use them in vast quantities
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>>129881883
read back like 3 posts, you're the 931471th person saying that without saying why
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>>129880885
I was obviously referring to the western side of society.
>>129880699
When you will guys learn that basing your society on liberalism is a ticket to failure?

You should teach your people that it isn't okay to give in to frivolous pleasures that can destroy you for only a few moments of gratification. Not enable them because ''it will happen anyway''

Rape will happen anyway, it happened since before the first civilization was born and will continue to happen and yet, we do all in our power to prevent that to happen again. Same goes for drugs, people will always use drugs, whether it's legal or not, but the important thing is society not being an enabler to self destructive behavior.

See what happened to western society after so much time of libertarian philosophy and laws. This is everything we preach nowadays. ''He should be able to use his drug, it's his freedom!'' ''women have the right to sleep with 12029233921 men'' ''It's okay to legalize abortion, the women should have the right to decide!''. Where did all of that took us exactly?

Also, remember, when drug are legalized, the ultimate drug dealer and the one who control all flow of drugs becomes who? Exactly, just one more power to give to the government, as if it wasn't enough already.
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>>129882254
That is why you should petition your government to allow full legalization of all drugs.
Freedom is everything for you Americans right?
So go for it.
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>>129882167
>believes in nothing
>muh anarchism
>thinks anyone should value his opinions or observations
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>>129881935
Then your argument about alcohol equates cocaine with alcohol?

Why are you so interested in making drugs legal?
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>>129880969
>implying that abortion is a bad thing
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>>129882301
Wow what a stellar argument. Truly you are a paragon of your kind.
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>>129882392
Yea I know, people still use them in vast quantities here as well, I don't have a problem with it.
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>>129873672
Prostitution should be made legal. Australia did it and it was a net positive, the workers had to be registered killing illegal immigrant sex work and human trafficking almost entirely, tax revenue increased, and it's safer for both the workers and customers. It's going to happen anyway, might as well make the best of it. Drugs are a trickier issue, since people are stupid and will get themselves hooked/overdose and some mentally ill retard will trip on acid and kill her kids; methods of screening and controlling sales would cost a lot of money, and ultimately governments make more seizing drug money than they would through taxing legalised sales so it would never happen anyway.
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>>129882494
Joke's on you, I'm neither an atheist nor an anarchist
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>>129882504
cause I use them myself
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>>129882624
>30 percent black, 36 percent WHITE
what exactly is your argument?
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>>129882891
Holy shit, you mean you have the capability of being a functioning adult and you still hold those opinions?
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>>129881325
> Being fat is legal, but it is obviously not okay.
Being fat isn't something you do on purpose though, it's a consequence of eating too much, and every human being needs to eat to survive. Using drugs doesn't have any objective use except when you are sick and need them, so there's literally no reason to enable them.

Basically, people being prohibited from being fat isn't viable, but prohibiting drugs is.
>Banning things based on some vague notion of degeneracy is stupid.
It's not a vague notion. Using drugs in 99% of cases is JUST for self pleasure, it doesn't have any real use besides the self gratification of the individual. Basically you are enabling something ONLY for self gratification when said thing can basically destroy the life of the person using, making it a burden to society and to his family.
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>>129883065
black women are 6% of the population, but account for 30% of the abortions
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>>129883125
I get sick when I don't have my drugs
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>>129881880
Tobacco is a special case that happened due to heavy propaganda and it's pure hypocrisy anyway. I don't even think that tobbaco should be illegal, as it isn't the type of drug that alters your behavior directly, it only fucks your body, like fat does.
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>>129882899
It's not obvious. Really.

Stop trying to justify your shit behavior and either die off as scum as you seem to be fond of, or grow up and start respecting yourself.
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>>129882167
Not really. I just believe in balance. Freedom is important, but you can't base the entire fucking society on freedom since the very concept of society implies organization, which in turn implies limitations on one's freedom.

Liberalism to the point of anarcap is just as retarded as communism is.
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>>129883125
>BASICALLY
>BASICALLY
>basically

Basically no one has the authority to determine what i choose to do with my conciseness.
The drug war has failed. drug consumption only increases with prohibition and puts gangs and mafias in control of them.

You can end your trolling now, there are real happenings today.
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>>129882624
Yes goyim, let's enable abortion so that globalists can finally turn our women in literal animals who can't think for themselves because they are too busy diving into hedonism.
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>>129873672
Yes
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>>129883125
>being fat isn't something you do on purpose
Yes it is. Eating to excess is more harmful than the vast majority of prohibited substances.
>JUST for self pleasure
and? Why is that a bad thing?
>burden on society
Using drugs doesn't make you a burden on society. Abusing low-quality street drugs does. If you have a regulated system that helps people with drug problems rather than a blanket ban, you can far more effectively mitigate the social problems of drug use.
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>>129873672
>everyone in the world now has unmitigated access to drugs and prostitution
>this is somehow not going to affect anyone
Nah, low-income areas would become even worse overnight.
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>>129883717
>Basically no one has the authority to determine what i choose to do with my conciseness.
Read >>129883633

>The drug war has failed
It's said that child pornography only increased over time. Does this mean that the fight against pedophilia failed and we should enable CP?

Besides, drug war was incredibly successful on both Japan and China.

>You can end your trolling now,
Why would you think I am trolling?
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>>129884102
could agree more
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>>129873672
drugs = no, prostitution = yes
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>>129884271
CP involves child abuse, smoking a joint doesn't.
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>>129876733
>>129876819
good job lads. should have been end of thread.
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>>129878481

alcohol, tobacco and refined sugar should be banned as well?
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>>129873672
They are not victimless. We all are the victim because they weaken our society.
>Fucking weak stoners don't care about our dying race and just want to get high.
>also easy to control.
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>>129884576
My grandmother handed my father a joint when he was four years old. Her excuse? She never made one. She stood by her beliefs as a hippie, got high and fucked random men in front of my father, and didn't give a shit about the fact that my dad didn't stop smoking after that first joint. Or that one of her random lays raped my dad. Or that my dad went on to graduate to speed.

It took him 40 years to get clean. It took 45 for him to even mature enough to have me want to have a relationship with him. Child abuse and drugs are fucking linked.
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>>129884271
>besides, drug war was incredibly successful on both Japan and China.
China is a major source of precursor chemicals necessary for the production of cocaine, heroin, MDMA and crystal methamphetamine, which are used by many Southeast Asian and Pacific Rim nations. China produces over 100,000 metric tons of acetic anhydride each year, and imports an additional 20,000 metric tons from the United States and Singapore.

CP is the abuse and exploitation of children.
The drug war is control the conciseness of adults
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>>129885203
>My grandma was a bad person therefore all drugs are bad

Great argument
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>>129873672
Yes. Give me your money whiteboi.
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>>129873672
>globally
fuck off
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>>129884102
>Eating to excess is more harmful than the vast majority of prohibited substances.
Unless you are like those fat fucks that can't even walk, eating to excess isn't more harmful than most of the main drugs, like cocaine, heroine and etc.

>and? Why is that a bad thing?
Because it fucks you permanently, something you can't deny as it's literally proven, makes you dependent and in turn, a burden to your family for just instant gratification.

I really can't defend something harmful that can affect me personally, as it alters the behavior of the person using it, just so that he can indulge in personal pleasure.

> If you have a regulated system that helps people with drug problems rather than a blanket ban, you can far more effectively mitigate the social problems of drug use.
Circular argument here. It goes back to the things I said above. First, you have to put the estate in charge of providing drugs, which puts every drug user in the hands of the government and make them very prone to support you. It's a very easy group to please as they put their addiction above everything else. Second, it goes to what I said above enabling self destructing behavior for the sake of liberalism.
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>>129885419
>citing a first hand example doesn't cover every possible angle to the argument so it's worthless
Great argument as well.
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>>129873672
They aren't victimless. Society as a whole suffers from this degenerate behavior. The punishments should be more severe.
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>>129878052
Having them outlawed has had zero effect on reducing any of the problems you have named and has actually increased those problems

Thanks for trying

0/10
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>>129873672
>Be OP
>Think there is such thing as a 'victimless crime'.
>Be shortsighted and lacking intelligence and rationality like that because your intelligence and rationality are suppressed by the effects of Cannabis
>Be a drug-zombie with a self-induced partial chemical lobotomy.
>Think the endocannabinoid system was evolved so you could mentally masturbate/'get high'
>Neglect all the endogenous control systems that are effectively turned off by the flood of exogenous THC and CBD you consume on a daily basis.
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>>129885203
No, your grandmother was a degenerate. She raised a degenerate. The drugs didn't commit the child abuse your grand mother did. Chances are she would've been a shit human being without the drugs anyway.
How fucking young are you cunts my grandfather shot nazis, my mother was a hippy?
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>>129876733
>>129876819
There is no society, just individuals.
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>>129885598
My grandmother gave my dad a joint when he was 5 years old. He never stopped smoking after that. He became very successful and had me. and im a sick cunt.

therefore drugs are good
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>>129883717
>You want to be concise.
MFW
>Drug war is AMAZINGLY effective.
>Prisons are FULL of Drug Addicts.
>Law Business and Court system is BOOMING
>Be you
>Be Concise
MFW
>Not know an economy of scale.
>Be a major dumbass
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>>129885797
I'm 30. My grandmother was rich, cultured and traveled the world as an opera singer. Then she was introduced to pot and became how she is to this day.

If you all want to ignore the fact that bad people are intertwined with drug use go ahead, excuse away. I just hope you never have to live with the actual effects of it, you'd sing a different tune.
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>>129885208
>The drug war is control the conciseness of adults
It's funny because this also applies to CP. Why do you think that the estate is so interested in the fight against pedophilia? A witch hunt that only begun to rise to current level a few decades ago btw. Do you think it is to protect children?

It's obvious to capture and control the conciseness of adults, exactly like you said about the drug war.
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>>129886211
It was illegal when your grandmother did it, so the legality of drugs didn't stop her degeneracy.
What she needed was help anon not a prison sentence.
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>>129886433
>Why do you think that the estate is so interested in the fight against pedophilia
to protect kids?
>A witch hunt that only begun to rise to current level a few decades ago btw
because the internet
>It's obvious to capture and control the conciseness of adults, exactly like you said about the drug war.
well then, its looks like i found the leaf
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>>129876733
>>129877102
>>129885645
Glad to see there are still some users here with sense
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>>129885472
Yes it is. Moderate cocaine use is less harmful than being obese, and clean heroin actually does not cause acute physical harm. Withdrawals and addiction, yes.
>fucks you permanently
does smoking a joint or two a week fuck you permanently? Ecstasy once every few weeks? LSD once a month? Fuck no.
>state in charge of providing drugs
not necessarily. The state can use tax money raised to fund support for those who do end up as addicts and allow those who can use substances responsibly to do so.
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>>129886589
She lived in an upscale Berkeley neighborhood in the 1960s. You think drug laws were enforced?

She needed a prison sentence to understand what consequences were.
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>>129873672
No but some drug laws do need to be reversed because they cause more harm Than good.
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>>129886767
Yes goyim, the EU wants to ban drawings of little girls to protect kids and not so that they can create a false sense of justice and capture the conscience of people.
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>>129886952
>moderate cocaine and heroin use
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>>129873672
>Victimless Crime
Theres no such thing
Crimes against the state are crimes against the collective
Follow the fucking law you degenerate
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>>129887504
Yes, it happens
cocaine is not physically addictive, and many moderate opiate users exist.
Personally know many moderate coke users, I've done it a few times and didn't really like it. Not for me.
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>>129883123
Implying you cant be a functioning adult and use drugs occasionally.
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>>129887819
not if its legalized
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>>129873672
>tfw sticking to unscheduled analogs like 1P-LSD and etizolam while living in a weed state

The law can't do shit to me. Plenty of cool drugs are already legal
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>>129887204
>Yes goyim, the EU wants to ban drawings of little girls to protect kids and not so that they can create a false sense of justice and capture the conscience of people.
im not up to speed with the vagueness of loli laws in the EU, but doing to for a sense of justice doesnt seem likely.
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>>129873672
Real easy to get someone young or poor on heroin. That's how most girls end up as prostitutes. Someone manipulates them and then break their will. Distribution of opiates should definitely be punished with death penalty.
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>>129888302
So is that what you are? A functioning adult who breaks the law to get high, but it's cool because it's only once in a while?

Give me some evidence of how functional you are.
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>>129888494
Until they do what the UK did and introduce a psychoactive substances ban. Unless it's on a state-approved cucklist it's illegal. I miss my 1p-LSD, it was literally having instant access to really cheap, high quality acid.
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>>129889075
>b-but THE LAW!
Yeah, pick up the can citizen.
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ITT
Goverment shills and good goys who never tried any drugs themselves and are just regurgitating others opinion. The very idea of putting all drugs in the same bracket is retarded, but even so, state should have no power over individual if he wants to ruin his life and health without affecting other people. That being said, state shouldnt pay for his healthcare expenses, and if he causes a car accident or anything similar (involving others) under the influence he should be punished in the most rigorous way. Other than that, society doesnt own individuals, hence it is immoral to force such laws on anyone. Personal responsibility should be promoted, sure, but that isnt in question here. WHO already made guidelines agains drug prohibition but guess who stopped them. Politicians in mayor western countries like USA and UK have their own interests in drug war (CIA black ops financing, getting financial contributions from drug cartels and other organized crime entities etc etc)
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>>129889226
Cool argument. Hold on I have to go suck some state dick for a minute for sustenance, it's all that keeps me going anymore!
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>>129888916
>Distribution of opiates should definitely be punished with death penalty.

Like I said, only white countries should implement that.
Other countries shouldn't and we should discourage them via propaganda and violence to ever do so.

We need a second opium war to take back our rightful place as the leaders of the world for the future.
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>>129889075
>evidence
I can write anything on an anonymous imageboard so we'll skip that, you'll have to take my word. It's cool not because it's once in a while but because its not others business what I do with myself in the privacy of my home. And yes, I still manage to perform well in my professional and private life (probably the main reason drugs didnt take control over me, I have a structured life). Which reminds me, there was a scare back in the 80s IIRC about meth epidemic destroying white youth. Obviously it didnt happen, it mostly destroyed gethoized african american and hispanic communities who were prone to crime and other shit in any case.
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>>129889928
Your attitude and deflections are the only evidence necessary.
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>there are no victimless crimes
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>>129890171
Cool argument brah
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>>129889928
You're wrong there, meth is a very real problem in lower class white communities. It contributes to a lot of violent crime and property crime.
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>>129890954
Well, the argument was about having a structured life. Drugs are not the cause but rather a symptom
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>>129891080
It's even a mainstream view in modern psychiatry. Every drug addict had some underlying psychological problem (f.e. depression, anxiety, interpersonal relations) which led him towards the addiction. Drugs are viewed as a form of self medication in most cases.
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>>129878306

Yeah, I'm sure they'll just peacefully give up their life of crime and sell flowers door to door...
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>>129878765

Something something Constitution.

Get fucked pot head.
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>>129891695
Well, they'll lose their main source of income. Mafia was strongest in the US druing alcohol prohibition. I thought these things were obvious...
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>>129878585
their self destructive tendencies spill over you fucking moron
addicts will kill for money to buy their fix

consuming an illegal drug should be punishable by death
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>>129873672
no
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>>129887819
>Crimes against the state are crimes against the collective
this nigger thinks that the state still represents and is made by the people, lmao
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>>129895843
Yes, these people are hopeless... Useful idiots, nothing else
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>>129882301
Said the stupid nigger with an AnCap flag
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>>129873672

So that mankind can collapse under the weight of its own degeneracy?

Humanity needs guidance in the form of hierarchy and worthy leaders. Our current hierarchy is inverted, where our leaders are worse than common people. We need to restore rightful priest-kings and philosopher-kings to their thrones, and follow their guidance, which would almost certainly not include fleshlights and vaping.
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>>129873672
OF COURSE!
Victimless crime is a barbarian legacy, when king had right to state all shit laws he wanted.
If we democrats, then we all should have right to do what we want as long as we don't interfere with other people.
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>>129883065
It still kills of a disproportionate amount of niggers, and the white babies it kills of are from bottom of the barrel genetic trash.

>>129883839
Women can't think for themselves in the first place. And the degenerate hedonist women like that will remove themselves from the gene pool. Eugenics > Muh morality
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