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Since being gay is a choice, why do people choose to be gay?

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Since being gay is a choice, why do people choose to be gay?
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>>129857213
weak will
child abuse
in some cases it actually is a better choice for the person in question
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>>129857213
Sweetie it's not a choice
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>>129857498
Nice bait, faggot.
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>>129857213
because they are fags.
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>>129857213
Sex addiction usually.
If being gay meant you were like everyone else you wouldn't see such dramatic rates of suicide, drug use, and stds from risky sex in faggots.
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>>129857498
confirmed leaf
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>>129857213
why do people choose to be heroin addicts or shitpost here 24/7?

You want to try drugs, you want to fit in, you had a bad upbringing and you get hooked and it slowly consumes you.

You were bullied at school, maybe molested, maybe suffered some trauma, you could never relate to women, you have psychological problems so you decide to suck some cocks, maybe play at being the girl you always wanted but could never have, you want to realize some of those trap fantasies, it starts by exprminetation, perhaps you just install the grindr app to see what it's like maybe you want to stick it to your parents so start sucking them dicks and before you know it you are a certified cocksucker and you begin to enjoy it and at that point you are so deep in gay city you might as well be running for mayor
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>>129857905
yeah, but futanari isn't gay.
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>>129857213
They dress better
Make more money
amazing what gagging on a cock will do for you
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>>129857213
they are faggots
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>>129857213
Because vaginas are really fucking gross when you really get down to it.

And, men have jobs.
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>>129857213
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I don't think it's a choice to find something attractive. I can't find men sexually attractive even if I tried, so I assume it's the same for gays and their attraction to women.

What is a choice is living a promiscuous life, being obsessed with sexuality and oversexualising everything, spreading genderbender propaganda to children, etc.
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>>129857213
They want attention.
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>>129858028
This. Stupid people seem to forget that futas have GIRLdick, not disgusting gay boydick.
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>>129857213
Because dick feels good i suppose.
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>>129858262
>Because vaginas are really fucking gross
Thas a weird way to say wonderful gooey wonderland of magic
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>>129858685
>even trying in the first place
>implying classical conditioning does not apply to human sexuality
>implying the [reward] of orgasm isn't strong enough to condition almost anything to be stimuli
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>>129857213
Because they're fucking gay
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>>129858665
man, i'm jealous as fuck
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>>129858976
>comparing dogs to human
Fallacy right there.
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>>129857213
I tried to force myself to be straight. It doesn't work.
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Because they are mentally ill. Same with trans and all that shit. Simply a mental illness.
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>>129857213

They don't choose it. They "propagate" through child sexual abuse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXGlawiibK8
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>>129859226
Except they're not qualified as mentally ill anymore as they're not causing harm to the society.

Your ideals tho should be considered as mental illness.
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>>129859486
>Not causing harm to society
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>>129859577
Not having children or contributing to white nationalists' ideals is not officially counted as harming the society.

Sure you can keep living in your own imaginary utopia.
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>>129859114
>who is BF Skinner?
>did the same shit on humans at much higher levels
>still rang true
Besides, your opinion doesn't even count, as it doesnt make sense. dogs are quite comparable to humans, only subhuman mudslimes like you beg to differ, because you have an irrational hatred of dogkind.
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>>129859728
>not officially counted
I wonder (((who))) would be in charge of "counting" such things.
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>>129858846
and the fact that it's a drawn fetish porn, and they have female bodies.
You fucking cuck faggot.
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>>129857498
Not a choice, but an illness.
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its not really a choice, so some dudes like dick. On the other side some chicks like twat.
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>>129859140
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>>129859140
Did you try electricity yet?
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>>129859749
BF Skinner surely contributed to the psychology with experiments done with animals, but it still doesn't change the fact that dogs and human are still vastly different. Majority of dog breeders and raisers agree that dogs should not be treated like humans, not in a way that they're inferior.

And the fact that you fall for ad hominems just proves that you're wrong, you're afraid that somebody questions it.
>>129859774
ah the jew card. When nothing else works, just blame da joos!
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>>129860052
Good goy
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>>129857498
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
You are the winner of our free trip to Checnhya.
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>>129859226
>>129859904
>mental illness
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>>129857213
Because male ass looks, tastes and smells good.

I love nothing more than my partner sitting on my face, spreading his cheeks with my nose rammed up his bowels while I snort his poo and lick his gooch sweat.
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>>129859728
Society would cease to exist if the ratio of heterosexuals to homosexuals were reversed. The continuation of society is based on contributions/sacrifices made for the future generation. What contribution are they making?
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>>129860115
>XDDDDDDD that'll teach him
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>>129860188
A syndrome to be exact >>129860194
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>yfw humans are biologically predisposed to bisexuality
>yfw sexuality is a choice
>yfw choosing to be straight is the right choice
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>>129860226
T'was a joke, apply some cold water to your cherry-red ass, will you?
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>>129860221
Like i said, officials don't count "not continuing the society via contributions" as harmful to the societies, and it doesn't matter if it ceases to exist, we muslims can take over then.
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>>129860326
>It was just a prank bro, don't be so sensitive.
>apply some cold water bro, you know the meme xdd learn from that
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>>129860194
You can take your false flag out now.
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>>129860030
I've tried everything short of a lobotomy by now. If there was a cure to homosexuality I would be the straightest man in the world right now. But I'm still exclusively attracted to men.

Honestly just accepting the fact that either the Muslims or Right Wing Death Squads will bash my head in or throw me off the roof when one or the other takes over. I hate most other gays and I didn't choose to be this way, but I'm gonna have to pay for it anyway.
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>>129857213
because it is easy, you can literally walk out the door and ask 10 guys to suck their dick and at least 5 of them will let you, meanwhile to fuck a bitch you gotta be fit, rich or both

being a faggot is being lazy
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>>129860771
You are forgetting our mission, gays defend us, when we take over, then we'll show them what we really think.
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>>129860672
have you tried going cold turkey on the cocksucking
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>>129861013
False flag.
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>>129857213
Because two trannies going at it is the best shit ever.
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>>129857213
Mental illness
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>>129860672
pavlov yourself and try to associate women with pleasure.
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>>129857213
Almost every gay I've spoken to in college thinks it's a choice, as proven by them thinking they can come onto straight guys and can bring them around.
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>>129861013
I've never sucked a cock in my life. I'm literally a virgin.
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>>129861137
lies
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>>129861137
That's the argument, and that's the issue.
If fags don't think homosexuality is a choice, then they're claiming the laws of determinism, but if they're choosing to come onto men that are straight, then it disproves the theory of determinism.
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>>129857213
I heard americunts suck good dick, so i became gay. Atm only cheap ozzy bf called mick, but soon i hope i get a better burger one named jordan chuck tucker.
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>>129861137
Oh come on, they don't really think they can bring a heterosexual 'around'. They just want to A. be absolutely sure they can't fuck you and B. get an in to be the guy the ones who aren't sure experiment with.
You know how we will work at a woman like a bobby pin in a keyhole, why wouldn't gay guys be the same way towards their potential targets?
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>>129857213
To CRUSH THE NARRATIVE, AM I RIGHT FELLOW PEDES?
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>>129862260
>disregarding the argument
Trudeau is a fag.
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>>129857213

Too scared of Vagina (for men) and too scared of Penis (for women).

Maybe it's the fear of having a child??????????
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>>129857213
Steve Carell to play him in the inevitable biopic
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>>129862908
legal weed, breh
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>>129863061
weed turns people gay
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>>129859774
>le (((meme)))
hahaha so le (((epic))) (((meme))) le ((((funny))) XDDDD!!!!!(((!!!))))
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>>129857213
Mentally some people find more comfort, joy, and pleasure in a gay relationship, both emotionally and sexually.

To say you are born gay is to say that fresh out of the womb, you already know what you wanna stick your dick into and has nothing to do with your mentality.

As a gayfag myself who used to be straight, I think you never truly know what your sexuality is until you're an adult or at the earliest, late teens.
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>>129857498
Cutiepie Pufflywump, yes it is
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most fags got molested as children. I was and I was horrified of pussy because a retarded nigger bitch diddled me.

A girl wanted to "change" me and I tried it. wasn't bad, definitely not as tight as boi pussy and I still find men attractive. But it felt pretty good so I guess I'm bi now. I don't go looking for sex anymore though because I'm bored with it.

If a guy or chick want me to fuck them, then I'm down for it. Just don't have the desire to seek it out.
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>>129860194
That's gay anon...
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>>129863207
Canada, ladies and gentleman.
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>>129857213
It's not a choice. The things you find sexually arousing are hardwired reactions. It's not 'natural' to find anything sexually arousing, it's an evolutionary reflex that keeps the species breeding.
I fucking love vaginas man, I like to stick my face as deep into a cunt as it'll fit. I'll eat her out thru my fucking nose. But think about it. A vagina is a wet worm's gullet, if it wasn't for some hardwired instincts, vaginas would be fucking disgusting. I'm not wired to react to dick, and I can't fathom why any woman would ever want to touch one, they're nasty as fuck, and I'm thankful women have wiring to make them think otherwise.
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>>129863196
only if you inject it with cock
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>>129862908
I only just got in here faggot, keep your fucking fedora on. see >>129863337
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>>129863337
Since you're Canadian, I'll argue in favor of emotion.
If you were blind, you'd be hardwired to fuck what was emotionally appealing.
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>>129860221
The ratio will never be switched.
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>>129863474
You were responding to a comment, and you specifically disregarded what they were saying.
Get your head out of your ass, you canadian faglord.
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>>129860672
How can anyone be this mentally ill. What do you dislike about women? There is literally no way to dislike fucking a woman over a man, but the other way around is just disgusting.
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>>129863523
No, you also pick up on a wide range of sex-specific pheromones. You don't 'just' enjoy the smell of a wet pussy. Some of those pheromones will fill up a room.
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>>129860672
what is your definition of attraction?
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>>129857498
Found a Swenadian.
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>>129863671
I've been having gay thoughts since I was 5 years old. I wasn't even molested. These persisted for my entire life and I finally realized what it was when I was around 14. I like women, but mostly just their personalities. I just don't find them physically attractive at all.
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>>129863933
You continue to disregard the topic of discussion, on various posts.
I'm asking what you would do if you had never seen a vagina.
Humans are biologically programmed for emotional stimuli.
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>>129858262
A poophole is 1000 times worse than a worst vagina. But they aren't for looking.
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>>129857213
no

see
>>129862116
>>129863043
>>129863643
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>>129864106
You would pick up on the pheromones of the person attached to the vagina. Way more so if she's actually horny.
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>>129863965
The butterflies, man. Probably the same sexual reaction you'd get. I get them whenever I see a hot dude, but when I see a hot chick I just feel nothing. I'm not repulsed by women, but the feeling just isn't there.
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>>129857213
I guess animals choose too then. Ofcourse it's not a choice. I never understand the hate against gays. Why does it bother people that someone is gay? Who the fuck cares.
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>>129864156
I've never understood the idea of a gay gene.
Nature wouldn't carry on a dead-end gene.
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>>129858972
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>>129863671
naive imbecile
>>129864156
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>>129864225
That's whimsical fantasy shit. We live in an age where people almost exclusively fap to internet porn.
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For pleasure
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>>129863965
Also, I'm absolutely repulsed by buttholes and the thought of anal sex still grosses me out. But otherwise I'm still extremely attracted to the male body.
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>>129864238
>Marxists really argue this
Why would you compare an animal to a human?
Are you trying to dehumanize people to such a degree as to equate them to animals? Civilization was created for a reason, we shouldn't regress because of some erroneous idea of natural homosexuality.
There's hate for gays because they're an overall nuisance to society.
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>>129864249
yes, it carries recessive genes with odds of being expressed that are low enough that the species still survives

just like all congenital defects of varying lethality

but with modern UNnatural selection (reproduce only if you are physically able, no other selection) you have all of the worst recessive genes and mutations have just about equal chance as the healthiest/preferred ones

especially in the first world
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>>129864432
You don't have autism by chance, do you?
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>>129864495
"natural" is an empty platitude-descriptor
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>>129864505
You cannot argue in favor of something that would never carry on. If something were recessive, then it had to start somewhere, and a gay gene would not carry over.
Your argument is circular and nonsensical.
I think the idea of a gay is to describe people's family members that are gay, and the family has to cope with it somehow in the attempt to humanize the individual in some way.
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>>129864329
I thought we were talking about a blind person.
A person with vision usually gets a boner when he finds his first dirty magazine. A gay guy probably gets it in a shower or locker room, which must really suck.
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>>129857213
Just to be contrarian and piss off their parents.
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>>129864622
Not in the common sense. Semantics won't work here, Jew.
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>>129864569
Maybe? I'm awkward socially, but not totally inept. I was never formally diagnosed with anything.
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>>129860672
>american education
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>>129864710
You're missing the point again.
I don't even think you know yourself sexually. Which doesn't surprise me in the least, since you're a leaf.
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I hate women
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>>129864839
>communism
You're a cuck.
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>>129864035
A sad turn of events. But why homosexuality is truly a choice? Because sexual dismorphism between men and women is very slim.

What is it about woman that turns you off, that every woman has?
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>>129864703
im not aruguing in favor of anything

im pointing out the fact of the physics behind it

> and a gay gene would not carry over.

recessive genes to indeed carry, right along with healthy genes, but in some range of lower incidence, typically
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>>129864710
Shit man I hit puberty before internet porn, can't relate to the b8
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>>129857213
Easier to get sex and priviledge.
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>>129864855
Everyone does, but it's fun to hate fuck them.
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>>129864742
subjective
natural is nearly meaningless

perhaps what you are looking for might be righteous/unrighteous
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>>129864938
>to
*DO
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>>129864938
You're arguing in favor of the gay gene; which is naturally infeasible. There is no physics element to genetic predispositions. We're not talking about recessive and dominant genes, we're talking about faggots.
And faggotry cannot be genetic.
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Attention because they suffer from abandonment issues
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>>129864853
I think your missing sexual contact entirely. I know myself perfectly well, I'm trying to help you.
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Woman are horrible to deal with.

What if I told you that you could achieve everything in life, a career, children, everything, and you could avoid dealing with a woman. Wouldn't you suck a little bit of dick for that?
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>>129857213
because penis shows how turned on a person is really easily in a visual sense, which is something women can't really do.

>>129865141

"Faggotry" is a fetish just like all the rest. And a hot one depending on the circumstances. Sex is for reproduction and reproduction only, but everything else is a fetish.

Get a clue nigger
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>>129865141

>You're arguing in favor of the gay gene;

whatever the source might be, a gene, absence of one, a reversal, common mutation, it is a real congenital defect

>There is no physics element to genetic predispositions.

chemistry is nothing EXCEPT physics

>We're not talking about recessive and dominant genes, we're talking about faggots.

i connected the dots for you

>And faggotry cannot be genetic.

your special hatred for it does not preclude that
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>>129865027
This isn't your high school debate class. The point is known, you're arguing for the sake of arguing.
The natural human element does not exist in the homosexual experience; it is perverse and isolated.
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>>129857213
You mean, why do weak people give into their perversions

Isn't that the question you're too afraid to ask
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>>129865267
>ends justify the means
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>>129865297
It's a fetish

It's taboo

That's literally where it comes from. You're retarded.
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>>129865202
You want that to be the case. You have a very shallow conception of human sexuality. I don't want this to carry over to personal attacks.
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>>129857213
Why did you ?
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>>129865278
>"Faggotry" is a fetish just like all the rest. And a hot one depending on the circumstances. Sex is for reproduction and reproduction only, but everything else is a fetish.
You're not helping your cause, faggot.
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>>129865297

>you're arguing for the sake of arguing.

mind reading

>The natural human element does not exist in the homosexual experience;

subjective, several in there

> it is perverse and isolated.

subjective, the 1st adjective infinitely so
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>>129865466
What cause? Whites are too stupid to reproduce at high enough rates anymore anyway
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>>129857213
It's not a choice.
So you're either stupid or trying to bait at a level that even pence could understand.
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>>129864914
>What is it about woman that turns you off, that every woman has?
Nothing turns me off. The problem is that nothing turns me ON. I just feel nothing. If homosexuality was truly a choice I would've "chosen" to be attracted to women long ago.
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>>129865576
>The problem is that nothing turns me ON

This. Just an empty void when you look at them
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>>129865540
I'm white I betcha I could sustain an everlasting generation if you can gladly donate your mother me
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>>129865292
>trying to deconstruct a post on 4chan

>whatever the source might be, a gene, absence of one, a reversal, common mutation, it is a real congenital defect
You've literally said nothing in favor of your position.

>chemistry is nothing EXCEPT physics
I think you're confusing scientific chemistry with the shit women read about in magazines.

>i connected the dots for you
You're confused.

>your special hatred for it does not preclud that
personal sentiments are irrelevant to the core of the statement.
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>>129865395
>attacking people personally
>expecting them to listen to your point
you're a mentally ill faggot.
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>>129865543
they need it so be a choice, for the sake of the ease of heaping on blame

they believe there can be no blame if it is purely psychological and not neurological

this is not true, merely more difficulty to assign blame, MUCH more difficult

for you see if it is neurological, it opens a can of worms that seems impossible to deal with, but merely SEEMS\

but that is an illusion, it is not more difficult to thus deal with that heterosexuality being neurological
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>>129865672
She'd just get an abortion and you'll still be LARPing as a Nazi on an anime board complaining about gays
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>>129857213

If you were a man, why wouldn't you want to be gay? Women are horrid creatures. Men are stronger, smarter and make more money. There is literally no downside.

Lesbians on the other hand are just women who are lots dumber than average. This explains why there are more bisexual women than men.
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>>129865479
>continuing to deconstruct posts
get a life, faggot

>mind reading
nonsensical

>subjective, several in there
your response is subjective. I swear you college freshman have a hard-on for idiocy and hypocrisy.

>subjective, the 1st adjective infinitely so
same response as above
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>>129865695

>You've literally said nothing in favor of your position.

ad lapidem

>I think you're confusing scientific chemistry with the shit women read about in magazines.

i see, name something that occurs in this universe that is not physics

>You're confused.

your trying arguing against physics

>personal sentiments are irrelevant to the core of the statement.

ive expressed none, youve expressed nothing but
you are angry, i am not

try being calm and letting the rational mind drive instead of the ego
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>>129865543
It's a choice, and if you don't think so, you're mentally inept at an obscene level.
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>>129857213
because women are insufferable
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>>129865955

>get a life, faggot

appeal to ridicule

>nonsensical

he inferred my "true" motivation
which would require mind reading to infer else than what the text reveals

> I swear you college freshman have a hard-on for idiocy and hypocrisy.

pot, kettle

>same response as above

"but no KETTLE! did you not just hear me?!"
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>>129857213
Because their faggots. Only a faggot would choose to be gay.
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>>129866095
boom done

now let's move on and complain about something productive like... all of the abortions that happen every year from degenerate straight sex
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When did straight guys choose to be straight?

t. not even a fag
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>>129866071
just as easy to argue heterosexuality is a choice, or neurological NON-sexuality ("asexuality")

but not to you, or the likes of you
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>>129857213
Women choosing to be gay makes sense because women are hot, but a guy wanting to fuck another guy just makes no sense.
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>>129865543
>It's not a choice.

It is a choice according to Canada's legislation and current leftist theory; gender and sexual attraction is entirely a social construct and is chosen at will.
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>>129866225
Height of subjective stupidity on /pol/
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>>129858028
I don't know... penises are kinda gay...
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>>129866225
>because women are hot,

which?

answer: those that are
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Why do people decide to stop drinking? Why do people decide to stop using heroine? Why do couples decide to stop fucking around and get married? Why do gamblers get help and stop gambling?

Faggots can decide to be good people and stop sucking dick. Kys you nigger cock holster.
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>>129865977
>ad lapidem
And that's a fallacy fallacy.
You gotta stop posting.

>i see, name something that occurs in this universe that is not physics
irrelevant. the discussion is human sexuality.
stop posting.

>your trying arguing against physics
you're trying to argue hard physical science in a social science area
Do you literally have autism?

>ive expressed none, youve expressed nothing but
you are angry, i am not
wrong.
You're underage or immature.

Too bad there's not a cure for autism, because you have it, my man.
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>>129866300
This. You can't have both
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>>129866133
Dude, I'm done deconstructing your posts.
I don't have time for this shit and you're not bringing anything to the table other than you're self-absorbed nonsense.
You're so far from the point, I don't even think you know what you're arguing.
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>he isn't 2d sexual
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>>129866201
When they were in puberty. This is a shitty argument btw.
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>>129866307
height of conceit on the liberal forefront.
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>>129866425
holy shit this guy's really retarded. the flag change brought out down syndrome
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>>129866407
Sexuality isn't an addiction. It's something you carry with you all your life. You can't just shake it. You can stop having sex, but then you're just repressing your sexual desires.
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>>129866425

>And that's a fallacy fallacy.

proof by assertion

>You gotta stop posting.

and?

>irrelevant. the discussion is human sexuality.

human sexuality is within the universe

>you're trying to argue hard physical science in a social science area

it cannot NOT arise from the former

>wrong.
You're underage or immature.

appeal to ridicule

>Too bad there's not a cure for autism, because you have it, my man.

and again

see:
>>129865794
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>>129866300
Sexual attraction isn't chosen, and doesn't have any thing to do with gender which isn't real, so you seem to have quite the confusion.
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>>129866627
Holy shit you're a fag and you've only tried to smash people in this thread because you're mad that you're such a flaming faggot and never had a father figure to tell you that you're degenerate trash.
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>>129859728
Dude, you're the ones throwing them off buildings.
At least have the decency to put them in gas chambers.
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>>129866496

>Dude, I'm done deconstructing your posts.

ok? according to who?

>I don't have time for this shit

ok?

>and you're not bringing anything to the table other than you're self-absorbed nonsense.

i cannot say that much more easily regarding you?

>You're so far from the point,

"sexuality is from neurology"
far from the point?

>I don't even think you know what you're arguing.

unforunate
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>>129866670
>proof by assertion
And I can add that to any of my arguments.
Other than reading out of a high school debate manual, do you have anything to offer?
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>>129857213
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>>129866548
I remember holding hands and kissing a girl in pre school.

Try again.

also, if you could, please explain how the existence of long term homosexual sheep is a product of choice.
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>>129866847
>ok? according to who?
You're trying to get metaphysical
You DO have autism.
Stop posting. We know you're gay.
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>>129866958

Just a reminder that you're wasting your time LARPing and your white supremacist flag is even gayer than mine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhOa2e9AmEA
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>>129866935
if you could explain the correlation between sheep and humans I'd be glad to answer your questions.
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>>129860672
Heave you tried really masculine women? Like gay traps?
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>>129866300

You cannot legislate science. Faggots are retarded. No, literally. The hypothalamus receives a hormone bath in utero that switches that portion of the brain to the larger masculine phenotype. Faggots have a female hypothalamus.

The reason that portion of the brain remains female in faggots is an excess of estrogen simulating hormones in utero. Soy, fluoride (an endocrine disruptor), bisphenol A (plastics), inadequate recovery from birth control, and pesticides and herbicides in our food (especially the main ingredient in round up).

They did this research in the 80's and 90's scanning faggot brains and turning mice into faggots by exposing pregnant mice to these chemical disruptors.
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>>129867061
Nice comeback, faggot!
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the entire argument of choice here is that homosexuality MUST be nurture along, and not nature+nurture, and certainly not nature alone

for if it is not nurture alone, then how can it be fought?

the conclusion that it cannot be fought otherwise is false

for if it is indeed not choice at all, it seems insurmountable

yes it is an enemy and needs to be fought, but it not being a choice does not make it invincible, i assure you
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>>129866958
not metaphysical
only physical, physics
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>>129867132
It just screams tryhard retarded faggot with a complex
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>>129857213
i lovede seeing matthew shepards broken faggot body rotting in the desert,. more gays need to go shepards way
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>>129867131
If this is true, then why did you say it's a choice?
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>>129867158
You can still be sexually attracted to men and not be a giant flaming insufferable faggot that eats dicks 24/7
It is a choice
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>>129867197
Wrong. It still stands that you're a jerkoff with an inflated sense of righteousness.
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>>129867245
Afraid they'll swoop in unexpectedly and fuck you in the ass?
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>>129867205
You just scream emotionally abused faggot with a complex.
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>>129866853

>And I can add that to any of my arguments.

yes? and?

>Other than reading out of a high school debate manual, do you have anything to offer?

appeal to ridicule

the white-hot vitriol of fight we see for individuals suffering homosexuality would not come from a mere choice

but rather the same conviction you would have in defending your heterosexuality likewise, were it so assailed and belittled

you hate them as ones who have "brought it on themselves"

i pity them, as those permanently injured by a terrible disease
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>>129865576
A different question then. What turns you on about men that no woman has?
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>>129867341
engaging in homosexuality is a choice

BEING homosexual is neurological

>>129867342
ridicule
red herring
empty
et al
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>>129867411
I'll give you this, you don't give up.
But just because you respond to everything doesn't mean you're right. You're a no life, which means you're wrong on all accounts.
Deconstruct this post, you nerdy autist.
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>>129867396
No. You do. The most important thing in life is to be honest with yourself. If you don't do that, there's no point in living.
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>>129859486
Yes they absolutely are harming society. Gay
acceptance was the first step that got us to
where we are now where parents are giving
their children estrogen pills. Once you cross the gay acceptance line in a society the population
will morality slide and no longer know where to
draw the line.
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>>129867560
>ridicule
red herring
empty
et al

L I M P D I C K
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>>129857213
Attention
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>>129867575
no u

It's funny that marxists try to argue honesty, when they're some of the most manipulative and dishonest people on earth.
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>>129867084

Gay sheep have smaller preoptic nucleus, a part of hypothalamus (humans have that as well).

The hypothalamus is known to control sex hormone release and many types of sexual behaviour. Several other parts of the hypothalamus of gay sheep showed consistent sex differences in size, but only this specific region showed differences that correlated with sexual preference.

The differences are almost identical to those identified by the neuroscientist Simon LeVay in his studies of the brains of gay men.

now, please, answer my questions.
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>>129867570

>But just because you respond to everything doesn't mean you're right.

said no one

>You're a no life,

appeal ridicule

>which means you're wrong on all accounts.

affirming the antecedent
red herring

>Deconstruct this post, you nerdy autist.

just read the last 2 lines here (which i dont think you did):
>>129867411

i am also against it
but you hate it AND the person
i hate it and PITY the person
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>>129857213
Why are you asking us? Go ask yourself we're not faggots
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>>129867579
No. Pornography is the culprit and children discover it too soon. It's not the gays. Gays and transsexuals have been mostly normalized since the early 80s. You're a simple-minded nigger.
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>>129867616
last 2 lines here for you too:
>>129867411
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>>129867705
I'm not a Marxist
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Liking qt anime boys is NOT gay.
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>>129865576
1. Abstain from porn and masturbation till you can get an erection from a picture of a vagina then beat your meat to nude pictures of women.
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>>129867856
porn is but a single culprit
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>>129867131
Interesting, you have a source for these studies? (Serious)
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>>129858821
We're talking about gays, not trannies
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>>129867806
>trying to downplay the human element in the attempt to relate biological similarities.
There's a big difference in sheep and human bud.
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>>129867545
Dicks, musculature, body shape, jawline, body hair, etc.
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>>129867962

male+male
and
female+female
are both HOMO(same) combos
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>>129867977
It's porn. All of society's problems come down to two things. Women's liberation and porn.

That's it.
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>>129864495
I compare humans to animals because we are further evolved animals.
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>>129857213
I imagine it's a similar rush to the feeling niggers get from stealing. A dirty and hollow rush tainted by the ever lasting immorality of the deed.
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>>129868024
what are humans aside from biology?
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>>129867811
Are you some kind of euphoric shitposter?
You unironically respond to people in the hope that you're right?
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>>129868090
false generalization

you actually feel those are the 2 ultimate sources?

you can dig no deeper?

you can do better than that, take it a step further and i will lead you from there.
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>>129867911
You are so fucking apoplectic!
What a joke!
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>>129859140
Do what Mike Pence did to himself to get rid of the gay: Take a bath with a toaster
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>>129868194
just please, see:
>>129867911
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>>129867953
>says the chosen and self proclaimed faggot
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>>129858665
Holy shit, talk about cohesion among 3 friends.
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>>129857213
It's kind of hot.
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>>129868298
i suppose i now apologize for distilling the disagreement to its quintessence
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>>129868094
Then you're leaving out a huge component. Evolution.
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>>129868071
What if it's a male that looks like a female?
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>>129860194
Anon, you have a mental problem. Go shoot yourself
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>>129868164
shit posters on 4chan.
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>>129868416
I suppose you tip your fedora you flaming faggot.
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>>129868449

>What if it's

>what if it is

>it is

there is nothing besides what it is

what it "appears" is nothing
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>>129857498
You're right it's a degenerate mental illness
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>>129868603
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>>129868603
>implying it's gay to fuck a cute boy in the ass
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>>129868567
you hate them
i pity them

these are true because you think it is a choice, I used to but now see it is not

there is nothing more here than that

>fedora

i am the opposite
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>>129868447
We still have the same emotions, the same nature. Don't know what your point is.

Also, what is the reason you hate homos? Most of the time people hate something because of a bad memory (trauma) or someone taught them to be angry.
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>>129868731
again
male+male
greek: homo(same)
if the situation is sexual
and both are males, then you are stuck with the meaning of the words
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>>129868857
You're new here, aren't you?
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>>129868766
this is why:
>>129868762
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>>129857213
It's not a choice. I did not choose to like cock. For the record, I find sodomy disgusting.
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>>129868263

You're not gonna lead me nigger.

I know more than you do. I used to LARP as a Nazi too.

>>129868357

You're a really annoying poster. Not because you're good or effective, but because your responses are very canned and predictable. LGBT isn't a problem. The left has taken advantage of them over the past eight years in order to push for the normalization of pedophilia. Sex is for reproduction once every 9 months (whites aren't even reproducing at a high enough rate currently because women are all just as degenerate as the gays you're obsessed with).

While the chick is really fat during that time, why can't consenting dudes suck each other's dicks?
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>>129868921
>i dont like word meanings

>therefore, the words are wrong and the people who know the meanings are dumb
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>>129868762
you one of the most cringiest examples of what happens when people avoid human interaction I have ever seen on 4chan. And I mean that.
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>>129868024

we share at least 80% of the same DNA, bud. google xenotransplantation. There's not that big a difference in our biological makeup

I can see you're doing everything you can to avoid answering my question. How insecure in your own viewpoints are you?
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>>129868766
>arguing psychiatry
Nice try, jew.
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>>129868986

>pitying gays

>I know more than you do.
auto-aggrandizement
if you knew more than me you would not have stopped your conclusion chain short of the end

>larp as a nazi

i see
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>>129868921
Dude, that faggot is a prime example of reddit posting.
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>>129869098
Jordan Peterson ain't a Jew buddy.
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>>129868986
You're a pathetic waste on society, stay butt mad you ass-grabbing petunia.
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>>129868992
Please stop posting, newfriend.
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>>129868992
>not getting the point
You have asperger's.
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>>129869021
appeal to ridicule; ad nauseam
indignance, anger, frustration, denial, ad hominem

all first, last, and always basest reactions when one's position is successfully challenged, rather than possibly considering it to actually be wrong, hold fast with white knuckles to what has failed
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>>129869025
>tfw to smart
really makes you think
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>>129869202
psychiatry is.
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>>129869098
How am I a jew? I hate religion. Also, this reaction is so stupid on this site. Someone said something you don't like? Oh, just tell them they're a leaf, jew or liberal. Grow up.

If you have no logical reason to hate them you should probably ask yourself if it's even worth it.
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>>129869319
the point is from OP
which i have stuck to, and not ridicule

i have adhered to the point even to here:
>>129868762

try the same
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>>129869299
dude, I've been telling him the whole time, he won't/can't stop.
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This OP is retarded. This thread is retarded. The whole thing here is just retarded.
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>>129857213
It's not a choice, and if you were truly straight you would know that. If you are straight, you can't turn gay.

>>129857304
>weak will
So you are a closet fag that thinks it's like this for everyone and that you only need to control your urges to not be gay. Well, I have no urges to fuck other men in the ass or to get fucked in the ass. If you do, you are gay. It's not about weak will or if you act on it.
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>>129869477
Psychiatry was developed by Marxist Jews.
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>>129869364
>Realizing you're losing an argument to someone with actual scientific knowledge, so you resort to ad hominem
/pol/ in a nutshell
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>>129869496
the point is you're a newfag shit poster straight from reddit.
get with it dude, pull your head out of your ass.
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>>129868024
big difference relative to what?
how to from a human to spiral bacteria?
or from a human to a rare mineral?
or a star?

it is trivial to go far enough for the difference to become infinitesimal
relative.
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>>129869550
You're the fucking retarded niggerfaggot for willingly using that flag.
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>>129869550
You mean gay, right?
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>>129869671
>newfag shit poster straight from reddit.

No, that's you, and now that you've absorbed enough of others' tired old arguments from /pol/ you've decided to make a thread and regurgitate them.
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>>129869671

OP subject is homosexuality:
choice or no

ive stuck to that and exposed what it is, why it is, and why we 2 main groups arrive at our conclusions, and then why one is logical and the other a house of cards

you have reverted to vitriol and ridiculed without end
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>>129869584
>scientific knowledge
He's just regurgitating shit he's overheard.
There's not real tenable relationship between sheep and humans in the access to sexual development. People like to equate humans with other primitive animals, but it just isn't favorable.
Learn to read between the lines before you start pulling your debate class one-liners from your asshole, you fedora-tipping twat.
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>>129869582
Probably not. Even if that was true doesn't make my point less valid. Also, you keep avoiding the question. For me, that's an indicator you don't want to answer the question because you don't know why you hate them.

I don't care if you hate homos. I just want to know why.
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>>129869815
>replying to someone who's not replying to you, as if they were replying to you
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>>129869910
>regurgitating

>mfw you just stole that word from me

>and now that you've absorbed enough of others' tired old arguments from /pol/ you've decided to make a thread and regurgitate them.

Point proven
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>>129869910
>There's not real tenable relationship between sheep and humans in the access to sexual development
And you know this how?
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>>129869674
Dude, you are one of the biggest shit posters I have seen in a long time.
I have asked you numerous times if you have autism, you have failed to comply, so I can only assume that you do.
You need stop posting.
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>>129869910
>There's not real tenable relationship between sheep and humans in the access to sexual development.

.....
wow

and yet, the is quite much much more than relative between say sheep and plants, etc etc etc
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>>129857647
You probably wouldn't see so much of it if homosexuality hadn't been massively repressed in western society for centuries though to be fair. If you drive stuff underground it always invariably becomes more seedy and risky.
>>129857213
It's not a choice though. I can't choose to find other men sexually attractive, I'm just not into that. If you possess the capability to *choose* to be gay, then I have some bad news for you OP.
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>>129870102
>Dude, you are one of the biggest shit posters I have seen in a long time.

sorry you feel that way

though i mean everything i say and am not baiting at all
no joke

and this:
>I have asked you numerous times if you have autism

poisoning the well
red herring
ridicule*nauseam
>>
>>129870045
the posts were seconds apart
Stop jerking yourself off.

>>129869815
F A G G O T
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>>129869963
>probably not
that's untrue
I'm not responding to your leftwing diatribes any further.
>>
>>129870067
because people like you want to downplay human existence by relating them to inter-species elements.
>>
>>129870147
>wow
Nice comeback, pseud.

Your post was useless. Again, i say, stop posting, you newfag rat.
>>
>>129870351
Wew. Answer his question instead of deflecting anon.
>>
>>129870487
And you want to downplay human existence by relating them to your own personal feelings. How is that any different?
>>
>>129870260
stop posting man, you're not funny, you're not smart. you're a fucking joke.
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>>129869550
>That pic
Are all gays pedos like you, or just, like, 90-95%
>>
>>129857213
mental illness.
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>>129870351
>I'm not responding to your leftwing diatribes any further.
I am a rightwinger...

But, yea... I probably wasted my time on you. So it's for the better. Keep hating homos for no reason, keep calling people you don't like jews, leafs or w/e. I don't care. But I hope for you that one day you won't be this ignorant.
gl with that
>>
>>129870591
what's the question--how is he a jew?
you want me to answer that?
This is what /pol/ has become.
>>
>>129870487
The truth is though, human is just another animal. Try pulling your head out of your ass and maybe you'll see it too.
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>>129870620
>>129870561
>>129870487
Is this the power of true autism?
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>>129870596
feelings have nothing to do with it. It's common sense. A sheep isn't a human. On the most basic level.
Get with it, science fags.
they can teach you how to be a wonk in these public colleges, but not how to be human.
>>
>>129870690
you're arguing in favor atheist tendencies, melded with marxist ideologies. I don't think you know what you're in favor of.
>>
>>129870824
>A sheep isn't a human. On the most basic level.
And do you know why? How does a sheep need to be different to be human?
>>
>>129870633
I'm a little cute one faggot. I like taller guys. Not into kids. You're generalizing.

Most of these Nazi and AnCap posters download CP. I can generalize too.
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>>129870723
Thanks for that riveting response, I would have never known that, if you didn't point it out so frankly.
Humans are a different animal, you shouldn't compare the two.
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>>129870824
No, but they are animals, like humans, they are mammals, like humans and they posses many of the same biological processes. Would you be autisticly screeching in the same way if someone told you your medicine was tested on animals, due to them having similar biology?
>>
>>129870742
>Europe every body
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>>129871038
I am not arguing details with you, bud. Stay over in solvenia you fucking slav inbred loser.
>>
>>129871192
Proud to be not americuck. Enjoy your nationwide spy network.
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>>129857213
Same reason they choose to be trans.
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>>129871083
How fascinating. Another smug science fag. Tell us more about how developed and smarter you are than everybody.
Biological processes don't have anything to do with freewill and determinism in the state of sexual preference. Science fags are not the people to talk to when you're discussing social standings.
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>>129871308
what do you even mean by this?
you've never been to america, you slav cuck.
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>>129871391
Maybe you should look into PRISM, which is just the tip of the iceberg.
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>>129871391
You're so autistic about your hatred of gays that you literally posted in this thread 80 times, making sure to respond to each individual person with a unique reply. Think about your life choices for a moment.
>>
>>129870893
Keep avoiding the question anon. Keep calling me names. But seeing that almost everyone in this thread is arguing against you must mean something right?

Seeing your reactions to other people is just stupid. You avoid questions and don't know what to say so you label them with a name.

But I find people like you always interesting. So my theory about you is that you come from a rough family with extreme policies. No gay allowed. Could it be that you have feelings for other males? But, you can't be with them because you were taught that being gay is wrong. So could be the reason that you are mad at other homos, because they have the freedom to express who they really are while you couldn't? Correct me if I am wrong.
>>
>>129871391
Keep going. You might make it to 1/3 of the posts in a single thread, with half of them goofy canned insults
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>>129871192
Seems to me, that one of the anons up there was making a serious scientific point backed up with actual knowlege and you're just sat there with your metaphorical fingers in your ears screaming
>NO NO NO NOT THE SAME CAUSE I DON'T LIKE THE SOUND OF THAT
You haven't accurately responded to any of his points with anything even closely resembling a well thought out response, and you're responding to every comment, however asinine with earnest and gusto, all whilst pretending its everyone else who is retarded.

Real talk, genuinely not memeing or trying to be rude, but you honestly hand on heart, genuinely come across as though you are autistic and having something of a meltdown. If you're not, have a word with yourself mate. Honestly.
>>
>>129857213
>>129857213
Betaness
Fear of the opposite sex
Easy sex (gays are generally whores)
Status (nowadays a protected minority)
Construction in opposition to bad experiences in childhood (negative father figure, negative experience of women/girls...)

But yeah, a choice it is.
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>>129864432
>gay
>but assholes gross you out
u fucking wot
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>>129871843
You don't need to have anal sex to be gay anon.
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>>129871843
Your guess is as good as mine.
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>>129871338
If you can choose to be gay, then you are gay. Or at least bi. Because I can't choose to be gay, I'm genuinely not. If you can choose to find dicks sexually attractive then do it. For 5 minutes find them sexually attractive and then go back to a lifetime of loving pussy safe in the knowledge that you were right about it being a choice if you want, If that makes you sleep easier, but for real, if you have the capacity to choose, you're probably gay.
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>>129864225
People nowadays are so dependent on hygiene products that you'll sooner sniff some deer or horse pheromones in a girl's perfume than anything from a vagina.
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>>129872090
fwiw: transsexual porn is one of the most watched porn categories for "straight" men
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>>129870824
>A sheep isn't a human.


ladies and gentleman:
a revelation of the ages
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>>129872301
Source
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>>129870824
also:
*red herring
*platitudinous
*appeal to the mob
*appeal to emotions*3+
*appeal to ridicule*2+
*appeal to authority
*proof by assertion
*et al, et poly

your motives are somewhat pure, your means are not, by a very long shot
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women are gross
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>>129872301
No it's not, you just spend too much time on the chans. It is presented as such to push for the tranny agenda.
Then again, since being gay is a choice, if men with tendencies use transexual porn as a palliative to avoid becoming an overt faggot, fine with me.
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>>129872653
but hot
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>>129872658
It is pretty common actually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMoEs7eQeZE
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>>129872301
Probably because there are so many men who aren't confident in their sexuality at all. They'd rather pretend that dick girls aren't gay than admit their sexual preference might be somewhat homosexual as fuck. Feminists might be talking shit 99% of the time, but they're not always wrong about how fragile masculinity, or perceived masculinity can be at times.
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>>129872787
The idea behind a male who can pass as a complete female but with a dick turns them on because the dick shows how turned on the "woman" is.

That's basically why.
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>>129872748
It is common, but not the hot trend everybody around here thinks it is.
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>>129872658
>if men with tendencies use transexual porn as a palliative to avoid becoming an overt faggot, fine with me.
How can there be tendencies if its a choice? If you're getting urges surrounding the sexual attractiveness of dicks, you're gay or bi. End of.
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>>129872928
That's still pretty damn gay and people who are into it should just embrace that.
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>>129872989
>you're gay or bi.

But most guys don't think of it that way. They still consider themselves straight. But if that makes them indeed gay/bi, that's probably why 20% of people, including males, have expressed same sex attraction.
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>>129872787
futanari isnt gay
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>>129872090
No. You can choose to be gay because there is only a single substantial difference between a man and a woman. That a man and a woman can create a Family and children. Any other combination can't.

As for the feminine and masculine traits, they are intermixed.

Thus, you chose an opposite sex if you are interested in true love and companionship of a spouse. If you chose your own sex you are immature enough to fall to empty carnal pleasures.
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>>129872989
Can't tell lad, I'm like you, I am literally unable to feel attraction for dicks or the male body. Case in point, you're probably right. My point here is just to say there are men with fag tendencies, who use trans porn to satisfy it as opposed to give in the gay lifestyle. I suspect there are much more closeted bisexuals, at least, than there are actual gays. This probably has to do with the times we live in too.
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>>129860672
Just don't act on your degeneracy and it will be fine
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>>129873747
>it will be fine

Who the fuck are you?
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>>129873531
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>>129873149
20% of males of 20% of people from both genders? Female-to-female attraction is quite natural, because female sexuality is fluid. Women are "the fair sex" for a reason. I would assume more females than males generally feel sexual attraction for the same sex.
Now I wouldn't be excessively surprised either if up to 20% of males confessed having at least some degree of attraction for the same sex at some point in their lives.
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>>129873445
But I'm literally incapable of choosing to be gay. It's not like I even give a damn either. Unlike many people on /pol/ I don't really care if people are gay or not, provided its between two consenting adults. It's none of my business.

I literally don't care about homosexuals, or even if I were gay myself. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest, but I'm not. Men do absolutely nothing for me. So if it's a choice, why am I incapable of choosing?
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>>129873997
And here we have one of those fags who believes lesbians are fine, but male gays are not because he watches lesbian porn.
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>>129874023
It's a choice for all the men who on the scale between 100% and 0% straight are below 100%. Pretty simple.
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>>129873922
I am a straight white male
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>>129873997
More females than males express attraction for the same sex because its more socially acceptable. Lesbians are seen as hot by society as large whereas gay men are seen as a degeneracy. That's not to say that lesbians have always been deemed acceptable, but they're FAR more accepted by society historically than gay men. If it were more socially acceptable for men to show homosexual tendencies, then a lot more bi people would either out themselves or admit to themselves their preferences, I guarantee it.
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>>129874340
You can choose to act on your urges, sure. By that measure homosexuality is a choice in the same way that one can be straight, but be celibate. but to have the urges in the first place is what makes you a homosexual, and those urges are not a choice, ergo homosexuality isn't a choice.
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>>129874416
Again, I think life should be about being honest with yourself. If God hates me for it, then fine. He hates all of us equally. None are perfect.
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>>129874023
Provided traps aren't gay. But traps are gay, so it means that anyone can chose to be gay. Thus, while it is unhealthy to be repelled by male sexual properties, it isn't really the essence of gayness.

The essence of gayness is the goal of your sexual attraction. Sex or love. And true and everlasting love may only exist within a family. And family bonds may only be formed between a man and a woman.
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>>129874986
Agreed.
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>>129875288
*Thus, while it is healthy to be repelled by male sexual properties for a male*
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>>129875288
That's an awful lot of rationalising you're doing there. If you're attracted to dicks, you are to some degree a homosexual. Since you can't choose to be attracted to dicks, homosexuality isn't a choice. End of.

Not sure if you have ever found dicks attractive anon, but if you have, just be honest with yourself.
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>>129874321
>o damn you so owned me
I'm not saying that, butthurt fag. What I'm saying is:
>female sexuality is fluid, which you would know if you were actually the kind of guy females like
>greater female-to-female attraction reflects my own experience with both genders, and is largely corroborated around me
Now if you ask me if faggotry should be encouraged by society, no it shouldn't.
>>129874416
no, it's more complex than that
you make it a social acceptance thing while defending that it is entirely natural and out of the reach of our will in the next post
Females have not the same types of "urges" males have in the first place, although it happens to them too. Female-to-female attraction has a lot to do social factors yes, but "acceptance" by muh patriarchy plays a much smaller role in it than you think.
>>129874708
no
there are steps between sexuality exploration and questioning and "urges"
As you acknowledge yourself you don't give a damn about the question so don't oversimplify it
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