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>>129856469
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>>129856469
fucking hell you are stupid.

>>129856610
this
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The principles of communism break down the moment a communist society has enough people that state level organisation is required

The earning and exchange of goods and capital is the natural state of things, if you want it to stop then you require an authoritarian government doing it by force
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>>129857059
>>129856610
In a communist society as marx envisioned it, there would be no corruption.
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>>129856469

Nice joke OP
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>>129857252

>there would be no corruption.

Then it's not a human system or a system that contains humans.
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>>129857252
that's how you know it will never happen
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>>129857252
Yeah and in the fairy tale world I'm envisioning I can use magic to slay monsters
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>>129856469
>berkeley students
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>>129856610
fpbp
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>>129857406
We'll just need to fix humans then!
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>>129857252
are you autistic? legit and serious question
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>>129857494
how do you start?

the first group that "fixes" the rest would have to be incorruptible super humans otherwise the process itself will be corrupted within a month
possibly from it's conception
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>>129857494
We tried that. People are pretty resistant to being fixed.
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>>129857410
>>129857472
>>129857406
If everyone can provide for themselves, there is no need to steal. Each according to his ability to each according to his need
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>>129856469
This is you brain on communism
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>>129857701
>incorruptible super humans

Even if you are, there are just too many untermensch.
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>>129857765
>If
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>>129857669
This
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>>129856610
excellent post
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>>129856469
>communism
>printing counterfeit money
Yeah, that's pretty much what they do.
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>le human nature argument
i dont give a fuck. communism takes the means of production from the most productive and gives them to retards who are poor for a reason
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>>129857765
greed is unpleasant but it's also as natural as gravity

a system where everyone can provide for themselves to the point of eliminating greed sounds more like perfectionist capitalism than communism to me
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>>129857252
>But that's not REAL communism
>X weren't REAL communists
>Communism WOULD have worked if it wasn't for Y
>In a communist society as Z envisioned it, there would be no corruption
>Pic related
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>>129857252
>I could be a better dictator than that...
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You know what? When we're flying around space, post-scarcity, and everyone knows shitting out billions of subhumans is a bad idea, then I will have no problem with full on communism.
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>>129856610
anarchy desu
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>>129857494
>>129857494
seriously define 'fixed' this is what will make your ideology trump fascism. You never will, because leftist ultimately find it hard to reason with the ideal that humans will not be coerced through government force ever. It is a application of deception and high use of charlatanism and rogue plays on the mind to make people sell themselves to the right. In many situations its benefitted a small chosen lot (((they))) to be nationalistic and will in the future. This cannot be said of communism. Communism failed in applying any sort of ironically communal sense of higher being. The state is tangible through the hatred dissidents had for the soviets, the soviets couldn't bridge the mental gap of coercing their human citizenry too willingly love their leadership.

I want and desperately need to believe for the sake of having and not forsaking children, that some form of egalitarian true future democratic republic of man arises. Multicultural boundaries should be respected and defined, but against aliens and other worldly foes. But then again another space race might push a fascistic few off world and becoming the Overman in another solar system.
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>>129858190
Communism's whole shtick is to redistribute wealth, but what wealth is there to redistribute if everyone already has what they need/want? Even in the most utopian of utopias, communism is worthless.
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>>129857765
>If everyone can provide for themselves

then there's no communism
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>>129856469
>I HATE MR MONOPOLY MAN REEEE
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the difference is in a communist society you cant take out a loan to buy food. have fun starving to death because somebody forgot to feed your pot smoking hippie ass.
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>>129857812
>If
The premise of communism is to be able to produce for yourself.
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>>129856610
Hi, Varg
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>>129858625
then what would we need communism for?
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>>129858625
So in other words, it's a fairy tale land that only exists in the minds of retards.
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>>129856469
I don't agree with either system because one is globalist and the other is internationalist but communism is still miles ahead of capitalism in every way.
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>>129858102
>workers running a factory
maybe if commies actually met real proles outside of their shitty weed dispensaries and service level bitch jobs they would be cured of their high school tier ideology.
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>>129856610 /thread
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>>129857252
>what's human nature
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>>129858625
also isn't that the premise of libertarianism and capitaism too?
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>>129857252
Curious statement. How exactly would the society that Marx envision prevent corruption?
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>>129856610
fpbp
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>>129858853
gulags for everybody suspected of not being "good communists"
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>>129857252
And this is why socialism is for low-IQ knuckle draggers.
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>>129858844
i said produce.
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>>129856610
Fpbp
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>>129856610
/thread
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>>129856610
FPBP
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>>129859035
if all the people produce for themselves then there is no need to redistribute wealth

communism only exists to prop up those who can't produce
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agenda 2030 when ?
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>>129856610
/thread
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Here is produce for the commune. Can I order a hooker now?
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>>129857765

>If everyone can provide for themselves

Then you don't need enforced(state-enforced or otherwise) egalitarianism, which is the key principle of Marxism.
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>>129858625
>from each according to his station
>to each according to his needs
What is it with commies and lying?
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>>129856469
how did the workers get that money making machine exactly? without the capitalist coming up with the idea for this business, without getting initial investors, without taking the financial risk, the workers wouldn't be able to work on this money making machine. the workers' labour is nothing without the capitalists provided materials. it would be like a carpenter making the movement of hitting a nail without carrying a hammer. labor in itself doesn't have value, it's a combination of labor and the right materials.

and where did the chains come from exactly? who forced them to work? this part is complete nonsense not based on anything.
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>>129856469
this assumes that people are smart enough to lead themselves, which they are not because most people are too retarded to plan 3 months ahead
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>>129859262
you can be issued a hooker voucher by the central committee but seeing as she makes the same no matter what there won't be any motivation for her to be good at it
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>>129858625
Elaborate.
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>>129857252
>in my shithole nobody disagrees
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>>129859379
he can't because it's BS
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>>129857494
so you want to kill everyone? all commies are the same
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>>129857252
I hope for your sake that your'e baiting
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>>129856469
If this was true wouldn't every company in the world be ran like picture #2 since that's insanely more efficient?
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>>129857252

And if my grandma had a 12 inch penis she would have been my grandpa.
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ahem...

I HEREBY DECLARE COMMIES TO BE THE NEW LEAFS BECAUSE EVERY COMMIE POST IS A SHITPOST
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>>129859654
because contrary to popular belief, retards need leaders to be useful
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>>129858102
>He fell for the "Racist Fascist" meme
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>>129856610
#NotAllCommies
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>>129859379
>seize the means of production
>use them to produce for yourself
it's not that hard
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>>129856610
kek BTFO from the first post
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>>129856469
where did the machine come from fuck face? thought so
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Great! Speaking of being good at something, I am actually autistic and lied about the produce. But I am confident this banana I found will feed our country through the winter.
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>>129859962
So what, Oprah's going to go around the country giving out free tractors and acre plots?
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>>129859340
if they were efficient enough to do the work of the capitalist then their productivity would be much higher than their productivity as a laborer, and there wouldn't be a need to do the labor yourself anymore since you're getting enough money which you can use to further expand your business. the capitalist is still part of the team, it's not a capitalist vs workers thing, the capitalists and the workers work together to produce resources.
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>>129857494
Transcendence, here we come!
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>>129859262
You provide the whore with your produce of vegetables in exchange for her sexual services. So do the rest of the farmers. She now has 2 tons of vegetables in her apartment she can't get rid of because gommunism says selling and money is a no-no. So she stops servicing farmers.

The farmers now have to go around asking every whore "Do you accept vegetables in exchange of your services?" and the whores have to go around asking abortion pill makers "Do you accept vegetables for your pills?"

Pretty soon, everyone is tired of the amazing benefits of the barter economy of gommunism and a New Economic Policy is crafted, introducing "Universal Exchange Units" which are small and easy to carry and exchangeable for anything. It is still gommunism and if you say the UEU is money, you are a capitalist propagandist.
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>>129860080
HHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
OH GOD
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>>129859962
>steal what you could never build
>use it for own purpose
>keep telling self it was right somehow


you're like a Somalian
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>>129859962
>Seize your rubber seal factory
>Produce mountains of rubber seals for yourself

What a joy.
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>>129860080
the earth belongs to everyone
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>>129860136
if it was easy to find a person to run a business properly, would there really be any need to hire people that are that expensive?
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>>129860299
says the commie while killing others and taking their shit
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>>129860299
Have you worked even one 8 hour shift in a factory?
Have you worked on a farm?
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test
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>>129860299
the earth belongs to the central committee

talk like yours is asking for some time in gulag
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>>129856610
/thread.

Should have given him a hooked nose to.
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>>129860339
right, and it isn't easy to find them. that's also why they're more expensive.
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>>129860299

The earth belongs to whoever has the strength to control it, which currently is nobody.

You're aren't entitled to the whole world purely because you suck down air.
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Um sweetie, you need to get in the gulag now. White people line up at the on the wall. No bigotry here sugar plum
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>>129856469
rubbish
try a drawing of a machine paid for by the rich guy and him paying people to work it for capitalism.
For the communism just post a pic of two starving people fighting over a rats corpse for dinner.
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>>129857494
the nazis tried fixing people, the world didn't let them
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Margaret Sanger tried fixing people, the world didn't let them
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>>129857252
>dont worry my communist totalitarian dictatorship will be different from all the other communist totalitarian dictatorship
>BUT DON'T WORRY THIS TIME IT WILL WORK BECAUSE IT WILL BE REAL MARXISM
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She can be the dictator of our communism.
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>>129858102
Do you think the average worker could run a factory ? can you just give me one example just one please where Communism has worked out of the 300th times its been tried?
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>>129860656
>>129860800
I can still see your leaf
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>No promotions, raises, or bonuses
>No reason to work any better than the bare minimum
>System falls apart due to nationwide apathy
Communism can only work if you disregard human nature
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>>129860800
>tfw you will never stick your face in this sweet, smooth, soft, enormous tits.
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>>129856610
this
/thread
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>>129860877
You are just intimidated by the face of true equality, and liberation.

Pic related
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>>129856469
I work for and with rich kids. They're all fucking useless know it alls and majority are lefties. We're screwed in 15years.
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>>129856469
cuck
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>>129860974
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>>129860974
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>>129857252
Technology can achieve this, but luddites are too scared.
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>>129857252

He said communism not utopia.
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>>129857252
>there would be no corruption.
Woman detected.
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>>129860974
>40% non white
>still the greatest nation on the planet
Just imagine how fucked the rest of the world would be if the US was 100% white
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>>129860961
Her current boyfriend looks like a massive cuck, so you might get lucky!
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>>129861150
so you wanna put chips in peoples brains?
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>>129857252
Quite right, sire. The fact is that people do not understand democracy any more. People, mostly critics of marxism, say that there is no such thing as corruption free electorates - and I agree.

The misunderstand comes from the misunderstanding of democracy in itself. Democracy is NOT where you elect a rich megalomaniac (a corrupt person) - it is where either everyone in the nation votes for every bill (direct democracy) or when an actual representative of the people is elected to the decisions for the people.

An actual representative is NOT some rich real estate mogul who bought an election, but rather a randomly picked citizen not necessarily with a political background, who will represent his country for a while, perhaps a few years and then can never be re-elected.

If you have either actual representatives without ulterior motives, or a direct democracy - corruption will not occur in any meaningful way and then communism will work like in OP's post.

But yeah, I guess it's better to team up with the corruptors, isn't that so, an-caps?
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>>129860974
>we finally achieved equality
>everyone is starving
sign me up
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>>129860775
>their are people here willfully ignorant of socialisms history and current status of abject, murderous failure.
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>>129861087
>>129861055
Sort your property out (of your possession)
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>>129861193
He did shill for Bernie, so it'd make sense he's a cuck
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>>129861161
i don't know why we bother sometimes.
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>>129857252
In a human society as I envisioned it, there would be no niggers.
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>>129857959
Mein neger
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>>129857494
Start with yourself
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>>129856469
wow good content on /pol/
wtf I love new/old flags now
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>>129861218
no stability in a direct democracy


guns/pot/gay marriage could all be legalized and banned and legalized again 3 times a week because the mob is fickle
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>>129856469
how does it feel to support an ideology that even niggers can refute?
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>>129857059
This. Perfect. Tel hai brother.
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>>129856469
No. That's not how communism is and you know it. A lot of you talking about how great communism is never dreamed to know even what a moderate communist system looks like. Be grateful that you were born into democracy. I know what a real 'moderate' communist system looks like. It's not that.
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HOLY SHIT FOX NEWS IS REPORTING THAT THE HOUSE MINORITY WHIP HAS BEEN SHOT

50 ROUNDS FIRED AT HIM

NO LINK BECAUSE IT'S ON THE TV BEHIND ME

FUCK THIS GAY COMMIE SHIT GET TO THE BUNKER IT'S HAPPENING
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>>129856610
/thread
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>>129860299
tell that to the jew
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>>129861606
*house majority whip
sorry I just thought that was a little error.
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50 rounds were fired at steve scalise while he was at a batting cage near dc

reports he was hit in the hip and will be ok

the shooter is dead killed by the dudes security
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>>129861257
all communists are people living off welfare in rent commieblocks who think their ideals will somehow make a better society
>"come join me workers leave your high paying job at a capitalists company you worked hard for so you can fight for a chance to starve to death in a hole or if im lucky i get to walk over a landmine"
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>>129856469
this
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>>129861725
my bad was typing fast
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>>129861429
No stability eh. Tell that to the swiss.

Also, what's the problem with that? People do all those things regardless of legality. Plus, you could easily legislate so that current laws cannot be contested more than once per time period (maybe 4 years or something). It's the future, and I'm currently building the online platform for it.
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>>129861359

Because I like making commies cry.


>inb4 Spain, Chiapas and Rojava
Those are anarchist no matter what commie faggots say.
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>>129861774
That flag?
How?
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>>129860438
Never met a commie that's ever worked any kind of physical labor.
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>>129861794
the swiss have stability because the elites need a safe piggy bank outside of their geopolitical monopoly game

>It's the future, and I'm currently building the online platform for it.
kinda a lofty way to describe facebook eh zuckerburg
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>>129858625
I can already do that. Why would I need communism?
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>>129860615
the earth belongs to everyone.
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>>129860299
umm no sweetie the earth belongs to whoever kills everyone else.
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>>129862407

So we're copying the same message now? ok.


The earth belongs to whoever has the strength to control it, which currently is nobody.

You're aren't entitled to the whole world purely because you suck down air.
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>>129862017
>>129861762
>Not seizing the means of production
Why even bother living?
>Not executing whites with firing squad
Holy shit it's 2017 who are you?
>Not modeling every decision after what Stalin's ethic
Being. This. Cucked
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>>129861204
Why would that be necessary?
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>>129862588
where do you get this idea?
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>>129862650
how does tech remove corruption without destroying free will?
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LENIN
E
N
I
N
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>>129862901
>needs dusting
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>>129858102
It's legal for workers to run a factory in a capitalist society.
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>>129857252
wtf i love gommunism now
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If communism supposed to lead to gerneral prosperity, how come it has never done that in over a hundred years and dozens of countries trying it out? How come everybody always ends up poorer and more miserable with communism?
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Dubzzs and Communism is coming to USA
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>>129863123
lol faggot
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>>129863123
>fails
>again
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Dubzsss and gommunism is going to Europe
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>>129863123
ha
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>>129858102
Si why hasn't communism occurred spontaneously?
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>>129862759
basic observational skill.
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>>129862832
Have financial systems be managed by multiple, independent computer programs that rely on machine learning. There's no need for those machines to be corrupt since they're not alive, and since there's multiple a single programmer is unable to game the system.
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>>129863260
to late
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Kek must be a bigot
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>>129863364
>Dubzzs and Communism is coming to Japan
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>>129856469
communism goes against basic human nature

it will never succeed
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>>129863336
so skynet

can't see that ending well honestly
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>>129857765
> if if if if

Okie dokie
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>>129856469
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>>129863604
shamefur dispray
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>>129857959
>National Socialism
Buahahaha
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>>129856469
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>>129856469
Syndicalism is the best way. Totalitarianism is cancer.
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>>129857059
The nose knows
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Both are shitty materialist ideologies.

Kys.
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>>129857522
daily reminder that Hitler and the Nazis were socialists
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>>129863954
LEAF
E
A
F
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>>129858004
>>129858133
Strawman for the most part
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>>129858102

I would unironically murder all communists, regardless of how good of a person you are under all that insecurity of yours
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>>129856610
fpbp
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>>129858989
What's funny though is that most of the most corrupt politicians in modern history were right-wing capitalist dictators backed by the US in the Cold War. Or is that not real capitalism?
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>>129863794

fascists are communists?
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>>129860775
>>129861239
Strawman
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>>129861559
Which "moderate" country were you from? Hungary? Yugoslavia?
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>>129856469
False.
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>>129857252
>In a fairy fantasy utopia things work
Gee what a surprise.
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>>129863682
>muh Technology is always bad.
>Muh robot Apocalypse
Given the rate of automation, we'll reach this point soon anyways. Surely you'd prefer Skynet to Jewish oligarchs.
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>>129863260
>>129863123

Dubzzzz and communism is going to hell.
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>>129856469
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>>129862958
Despite the fact that the USSR and its satellites were poor, they were for the most part way better a while after the revolution. Living standards in Russia were much better in the 1950s than in the 1910s. Living standards in China were better in the 1970s than in the 1940s. Living standards in Cuba were much better in the 1960s than in the 1950s.
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>>129863794
Why are fascists fortifying that hospital?
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>>129864835
>Jewish oligarchs
who do you think is gonna build it?
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>>129865120
soft targets are bad for everyone
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>>129862000
they added custom flag options yesterday mate.

Though, I think if you're phoneposting using that 4chan app, it doesn't work yet.
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>>129863260

Reoccurring digits and your mom sucked my hippie dick in the back of my camper van last night.
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>>129865521

Rerolling for mother earth.
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If the pinkos and commie lovers could do shit by themselves, why don't they do it? Nothing is preventing these workers from uniting and running their own factory, it's perfectly legal.
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>>129857252
Marx's predictions were turned out to be falser than Nostradamus' prophecies.
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>>129857788
fuggen ebin
:-DDDDDD
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>>129856469
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>>129863336
>There's no need for those machines to be corrupt since they're not alive

Wow racist. Just cause they don't have your flesh privilege yet doesn't mean they don't have rights.
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>>129856469
When has anything ever worked without a leader?
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>>129856469
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>>129857252
Marx couldn't even take care of his own children
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>>129857252
>In a communist society as marx envisioned it, there would be no corruption.
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>>129858102
>socialism lets you have guns

kek
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>>129864220
He's an ancap. So why are the right-wing capitalist dictators relevant?
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>>129865884
ironically all 3 are under capitalism because people have a choice
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>>129862937
No response, and this is a great point. You can be a practicing socialist in a capitalist system, but you can't be a practicing capitalist in a socialist system.

Socialists are free to create a small voluntary city state in our system. Though a large overreaching government with regulations up the ass would hurt their chances of achieving that.
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>>129857959
nat soc is exactly like communism in the way it was achieved. Hitler's "utopian society" was like stalin's "utopian society" but with a little twist
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>>129856610
>>129856469
fixed
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>>129865884
>tfw fascist but look like the communist
fug
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>>129860839
Yes, like democracy is all the people running the state.
Idiot
Cuba's working pretty well
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>>129860299
No it belongs to the government, off to the gulag deathcamps w you
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This is now a ancap thread. Communists get out.
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>>129866170
Communism is literally for elite cowards who don't want to be challenged so everything falls apart.

Aristocracy is the only natural system. Our leaders were alpha as fuck back then.
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>>129866412
Yes but fascism capitalizes on self-improvement and the "new man". Capitalism is only about profits, not the well-being of the citizen.
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>>129860775
>Maybe the USA won't intefere this time
Fixed that for you
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>>129865146
The oligarchs don't know how to program. They're old and like the old system. Young people, some of who will probably be Jewish, will have to build this system.
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>>129856469
That's not communism. That's Anarcho-syndicalism
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>>129866689
Nah, don't kid yourself, it's chains either way unless you are the owner.
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>>129867082
Capitalism is supposed to work with Christianity.

More jews in power = less morals
Less morals = capitalism falls apart.

If we weren't a Jewish nation we'd be much better off than a fascist nation.
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>>129866170
this
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>>129857494
>We'll just need to fix humans then!

Gas the liberals?
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>>129867141
>ZUCKERBURG
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>>129867303
>we'd be much better off than a fascist nation
I rather live in a world without McDonalds and candy bars, sorry.
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>>129857494
wow, good thinking comrade
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>>129865040
The way I see it, communism is great for a short immediate boost, then a hard crash. It's like cocaine. You nationalize all the private businesses, get shetloads of money and production to use, but then inevitably mismanage it, combined with a lack of motivation, and long term production plummets.

The tale of the USSR's industrialization and literacy improvement is pretty incredible, but it was not sustainable. Communism kills the goose that lays the golden eggs.
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>>129867528
>I don't want any food that's cheap and tastes good!
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>>129867464
>GATES
Yes but There are other companies that aren't started by Jews
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>>129867840
>tastes good
That's not even an argument, it's objective.

Above all, you need to have respect for your body. You talk about morals yet you spew garbage like this. I'm done with you, this is probably bait.
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>>129867638
Maybe it works like:
>factories are taken from their owners and equally shared between workers
>workers no longer have to rent factories, so they earn more
>since there is no incentive to create factories, since it's illegal to rent out equipment, nobody make any new factories
>factories fall apart
>without new factories, workers are much less productive
>country falls apart

I don't really understand economics, so I don't know if that makes sense.
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>>129868101
and they seek their own profit and success

system will be corrupted from the start for the benefit of whoever builds it
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>>129856469
communism is extremely corruptible.

>everyone gets the same shit, no perks.
>work in a factory
>meet the quota
>do nothing because theres no reason to strive to be better.
>worthless shits everywhere
>stupid sheep letting the govt fuck them raw

its great on paper, but garbage in real life since humans are a fucking messed up species
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>>129867082

Thats a nice little tidbit but the characteristics of fascism sound positive only in theory. Its problem lies in its dictatorship and the fact that people are generally corruptible and have little power over the gov. What if some loony sjw came into power? Dear god...
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>>129868394
It's not objective. its a fact. and you don't even need to eat mcdonalds or snickers if you don't want to
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>>129856469
The Labour Theory of value is objectively false, and your total lack of understanding of basic economic theory is cringeworthy.
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>>129859262
Not in murrica you can because its literally illegal.

Enjoy your "freedom", fatfuck.
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>>129861218
>In a direct democracy there is no corruption

Democracy is not desirable and anyone who thinks it is is an imbecile. What is a democracy except allowing a mob to determine how to spend stolen money? How and why is that a legitimate form of government?
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>>129865040
Tell that to the hundreds of millions of people murdered, permanently maimed, or worked to death in gulags you fucking kuck.
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>>129861822
You could count Spain, because it was a shithole too.
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>>129861660
So much order.
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>>129861762
Fucking kek
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>>129857252
>in this fictional hypothetical scenario, x would be y
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>>129857494
hi Pol Pot!
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>>129856469
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>>129857252
>>129857494
Sure. I'll hope on the (You) train.
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>>129866973
Are you retarded cuba is the best example you can come up with theres people fleeing that shit hole by the thousands the only ok thing they got is health care and we don't even know if its as good as they say because they don't allow any international bodies in that compare it it ,its just them giving there bollocks statistics
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>>129863794
>companies run with fascism
wildly successful

>compaines run by committee
inefficient and gay

nobody can prove that things run by a committee work better
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>>129857252
In my society there would be no retards, guess wich one will crumble first?
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>>129857765
>>129857252
>>129856469
>getting BTFO this hard
be a good goymrade and neck yourself
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>>129857765

>buh If if if.

>Why would I need to work hard to farm and grow food when I can just shoot my neighbor and take his shit?

See how communism was designed to fail?
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>>129870033
based
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>>129866528
Exactly. I used to know the local head of the International Socialists, and I once posited the point that, in our modern capitalist society, all socialists are free to run off into the woods, start their socialist compounds, and live free from the fetters of capitalism if they just keep themselves from murdering each other (which is hard for them, I know).

His answers? "Socialism can only succeed when it is global"

Isn't that convenient? Socialism will only ever work after it has taken over the world! And I'm sure socialists will happily abolish the system if it turns out that it doesn't work at all...

Another true test came when a friend of mind threw a birthday party at the local socialist squat. Why, I don't know, but she did. So I go there, and you know what? The socialists were asking an admission fee. Why? because "the lawyer has to be paid". Imagine that! No socialist lawyers! And this while they received a generous stipend from the socialist city council, as well as being exempt from laws the rest of us have to follow. Now they sit in their very own, huge, classic building. Which they received free of charge from the city council.

Socialism is so retarded it can't even work in small groups of friends, let alone on a large scale.
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>>129856469
Have fun putting together an iphone out of wire and scrap metal.
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>>129870033
Well, it's the man who invested capital to buy the machine and bears responsibility for the entire operation should it fail, as can happen in a free, open market. A man who is only corrupt if the rules allow him to be, or if the rules are not enforced. Communists pretend he does not have a job, but his job is to ensure the health of the company, and thus the job security of the men who work for him. In any proper system, he should not be able to be a bad boss, because if he is, his workers will leave him for a better boss. Unless he is part of a cartel, but then it's not a free, open market, is it?
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>>129857252
>In the pipe dreams of some hypocritical and delusional neckbeard whose critiques of capitalism were rendered obsolete by the industrial revolution, everything is perfect
Sounds about right
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>>129858423
Marx is a nigger tier philosopher
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>>129859310
It's a Jewish ideology
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>>129871230
>gimme is an argument
fag
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>>129871776
>1776
nice
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>>129857252
So Marx envisioned an AI Singleton?
Because any system that uses humans is doomed to corruption.

Only a perfect, compassionate AI could be un-corruptible.
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>>129870033
best
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>>129856610

That's the Truth !
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>>129857059

Also true, communism is far worse because it totally fixes classes and removes social mobility
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>>129858102
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>>129866248

How stupid you feel now?
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>>129857765
haha you got fucking smoked
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>>129863794

Progressivism is fascism. Check out the 1919 manifesto of fascism, use it against progressives at your leisure.
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>>129857252
People are greedy by nature.
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>>129863954
>daily reminder that Hitler and the Nazis were socialists
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How come no one has mentioned everyone killed by capitalism hmm??
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>>129863954
Ebin XD
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>>129856469
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/
-----------------------------------------
Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis
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>>129856610
/thread
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>>129868507
Which is why multiple systems will be constructed and keep each other in check.
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>>129857059
>>129856469
Jesus Christ, a clear sign that you're a fucking retard is when jew a sets you straight.
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>>129857765
Bro google a kleptomaniac
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>>129856469
Oh for Christ sake, how much coin did you bank in the gulag?
>I lost 60lbs in 1 week with this "revolutionary" diet.
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>>129874189
>selling us revolutionary stage for communism

How dumb do you think we are?
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>>129866655
Twist being, no nigs?
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>>129874189
Communist regimes simply branded just their supporters as the proletariat so of anyone opposes your redistribution scheme it would probably be some Bourgouise scum who shud be disarmed and then starved or shot.
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>>129873837
Reminder that woman in the picture a jihadist tier religious fanatic who murdered her husband apparently because he refused to join her fanatic sect and showed zero remorse in court and has literally nothing to do with "communism".
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>>129865120
Because (((they))) attacked Horst Wessel.
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>>129857252
>the human heart is wicked above all things
if Marx would have understood this precept, there would be no Marxism. Juz another dumb nigger writing a fantasy novel, he be.
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